S1: Welcome back to another episode of Building Billions. It's Natalie Dawson,
S1: your host, but more importantly, a testament of what is possible.
S1: Forget about playing it safe or sticking to the script.
S1: As a business owner, it's time you redefine success on
S1: your own terms. My mission is to not only give
S1: you a sense of ownership, motivation, and strategic direction in
S1: your business, but I'm here to affirm that it's perfectly fine.
S1: In fact, it's crucial to break the mold and chase
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S1: some incredible guests. With that, grab your pen and paper
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S1: episode of Building Billions starts right now. Well, I am
S1: so excited for this episode because I have had the
S1: pleasure of meeting this incredible woman on a handful of occasions.
S1: And then I went and stalked her social media, which
S1: is exactly what you're going to want to do. After
S1: hearing this episode and realized how much of a powerhouse
S1: she truly is. I want to welcome her feet onto
S1: building billions welcome.
S2: From one powerhouse to the other. It's a pleasure to
S2: be here.
S1: I love that you are such an enigma to me.
S1: I was just explaining to this this to her offline
S1: because you are just so warm and so kind and
S1: so lovely and just, like, really a powerhouse in person.
S1: And then I look at your social media and you
S1: are this influencer and walking the red carpet and in
S1: all of these places, doing all of these things that
S1: I feel like are so easy to put somebody on
S1: a pedestal and not equate kindness and being wonderful and
S1: soft to like most people, try to separate those two
S1: because they're they can't you can't have both, right? They
S1: tell you you can't have both, but you do have that.
S1: You have this incredible life, but you also are so
S1: warm and kind. Can you walk us through how you
S1: got started in the work that you do, and give
S1: us a little bit of a background of what makes
S1: you who you are today?
S2: Wow, thanks. Thank you. First of all, for that amazing intro. Um,
S2: I don't even know where to start, but the honest
S2: truth is to to what you were saying about being
S2: kind or being nice while being amazing. Well, well, doing
S2: what you love to do, right? You can call it
S2: what you want to call it, but one doesn't cost
S2: the other. I used to always say when I was
S2: doing charity work, that you can do good for others
S2: and yourself at the same time. So while you're giving
S2: to yourself, you can also give to others. And by
S2: lifting others, you actually elevate yourself. And so people always
S2: think of a compartmentalized approach to themselves or to their business,
S2: to their their family and love life. They have this
S2: separation like the church and state. I don't have a
S2: church and I don't have a state. I just have
S2: that 24 hours in a day and I want to
S2: optimize every second. I want to make it like a
S2: little cow in them. I want those to work for
S2: me because I know that this is my one life.
S2: I am the driver of that life, and I want
S2: to do the best I can for myself in that life.
S2: But that said, in doing that, you can simultaneously without
S2: spending an ounce of extra effort, do it for someone
S2: else and you're stronger together. And I believe in the
S2: squad mentality. I believe in the teamwork mentality. I believe
S2: that what you raise yourself, you can raise others. I'm
S2: not one of those girls that doesn't want any other
S2: girl around her to be pretty or successful. In fact,
S2: if you go on my social media, you'll see all
S2: my girlfriends are super hot, younger, super successful, and I
S2: want to elevate. I celebrate that. I love to be
S2: attracted to people who are successful or doing what they
S2: love to do, or at least having the passion and
S2: desire to chase what it is that they want to do.
S2: Because you could be anywhere in your journey. Success is
S2: a concept and what you really have to realize that
S2: you never reach your goal. If you really want to
S2: live a truly successful life, you will reach your goal
S2: one time. And if you're lucky enough to realize that goal,
S2: it'll be like on your deathbed, few breaths before you
S2: leave this earth. That is when you reach your goal.
S2: That is the end of you making plans, having things
S2: to look forward to. Then you only looking back and
S2: hopefully you're saying, did it suck that cow dry? I'm
S2: good to go. Take me so. But till that moment
S2: comes you're never there. You're never successful. Because you got
S2: to keep yourself challenged. You got to keep yourself interested, motivated.
S2: You got to keep yourself hungry to go to any level.
S2: Call it the next level. Call it another level. But
S2: you got to keep yourself driven to get out of
S2: bed and go do something exciting with your day. How
S2: do you do that?
S1: Like what is the what is the mechanism that you
S1: choose to keep that motivation and even look at life
S1: like you're just like sucking everything.
S2: What's the alternative?
S1: Well, watching television, I mean, so many people are just TV.
S2: There's nothing wrong with it. But they don't do.
S1: Like people who do watch television and, like, are on
S1: social media constantly and really don't have this viewpoint that
S1: you're talking about struggle to find motivation because they escape
S1: through these different avenues. And so how do you still
S1: use those avenues but also create this life that is
S1: so spectacular and you have accomplished really, It's like incredible things.
S2: Close your eyes for three seconds. What do you hear
S2: inside your head? That's you talking to you. Is there
S2: a voice that's more loud in your head? If there is.
S2: Change that voice. Change the frequency. Go to Am to FM,
S2: FM to am, go digital. Go download. The voice that
S2: you need to hear is in your head. It's you.
S2: Are you talking to yourself? What did you. What do
S2: you want to do? What makes you happy? That's it,
S2: that's it. It begins with the seed of thought. You know,
S2: there's the movie. Inception really resonated with me. And there's
S2: a scene. There's a scene in the movie where it
S2: says the idea. There's nothing more powerful than an idea,
S2: because once it catches in the mind, it spreads all
S2: through you. Once you get an idea, it's the seed
S2: that will become a tree that will become a forest.
S2: But it has to start with that idea. That idea
S2: is you talking to yourself? Your heart talking to your head.
S2: Your head. Talking to your heart. Your soul saying this
S2: is what I want. This is what makes me happy.
S2: And we are trained in society from childhood to dial
S2: that voice down. Because you're told as a child, what
S2: do you want to be when you grow up? That's
S2: a lot of pressure. I don't know what I want
S2: to be when I grow up right now, and I
S2: kind of grew up and I'm still growing up, I
S2: don't know, ask me what I do for a living.
S2: And I might be like, today, it's one thing, tomorrow
S2: it's another one day I'm an influencer, another day I'm
S2: a public speaker, and tomorrow might be a biohacker. And
S2: right now I'm a crypto queen. It's hot. But a
S2: year ago it was crashing that came off my profile quick.
S2: I'm just saying it's okay not to know all the
S2: answers to your life when you're a kid or even
S2: when you're an adult, because the beauty is you own
S2: your time and you can constantly discover versions of yourself.
S2: You can constantly challenge yourself. You are allowed to U-turn.
S2: You are allowed to turn left. You are allowed to
S2: redefine who you want to be. Because just because some
S2: teacher or your family, or your neighbors or your friends
S2: put an ideology of you that this is who you
S2: need to be. This is your definition of success. If
S2: it's not resonating with you, if it's not making you
S2: excited to get out of bed, if you wouldn't do
S2: it for free, then do something else. It's okay to
S2: turn your back on your past that led you to
S2: where you need to be. If that means you're turning
S2: in a different direction because there's no mistakes, falling off
S2: the horse is as important as riding it like Seabiscuit,
S2: because in the failure comes your opportunity to learn, to educate,
S2: to strengthen and to reevaluate and come back stronger. Nobody
S2: rarely wins their first race, right? Get a train. You
S2: got to get good. Venus Williams didn't go into the
S2: first match and win. She came in hot and amazing
S2: but got there trained from childhood. It wasn't like you
S2: were born winning tournaments. So everybody needs to calm down
S2: a little bit. Chill, relax with the self pressure and
S2: relax with the FOMO. And by all means, don't go
S2: into my social media and look at my life and
S2: think that something is missing from yours. Because everything I have,
S2: I gave myself, there's no daddy, there's no husband, there's
S2: no provider. I am my provider. And the bank that
S2: I rely on is the Bank of Guerlain. And it's
S2: here between my ears. This is my bank. You got
S2: your bank and you have your bank. You're born with it.
S2: So one of the mistakes that women do to women,
S2: I think the moms, is that they they say to
S2: little girls, and maybe it's changing in today's generation, but
S2: in my generation, growing up, find yourself a rich husband.
S2: I am a rich husband to myself. I am my
S2: own rich husband, and that gives me the power to
S2: own my day, to own my time. What I got,
S2: I earned myself. It's not about the stuff. Because if
S2: somebody gives you a beautiful ring or a beautiful handbag,
S2: you're happy for three seconds. Then what? Then you're like,
S2: resent the person because they didn't give you something the
S2: next day, and then you want more things, and then
S2: you become transactional, and then you're treated as an transactional
S2: in return. And women wonder, why is he treating me
S2: like that? Why did he treat me? Well, you set
S2: the dialogue by being transactional. I mean, don't get me wrong,
S2: I love getting gifts. There's nothing wrong with that. But
S2: that is not what is my mission in what I
S2: surround myself with. self-worth. I surround myself with people that
S2: give me goosebumps and they make me think like, man,
S2: I need to do more. Like, look at my partner,
S2: the guy I date. He's a superhuman Superman. And I'm thinking,
S2: I haven't done anything in my life. I'm not jumping
S2: out of airplanes or running across the world with my
S2: feet burning off or flying helicopters. I always surround myself
S2: with people that are more successful, more inspiring, more rich.
S2: I want to be the smallest person in the room
S2: because you know why? They will bring me up and
S2: I bring other people up along the way, because it's
S2: so rewarding to give back and share with other people
S2: what you've learned along the way. That is how knowledge
S2: should be acquired and passed along. So when you look
S2: at it like that, there's no room for the ego
S2: and the patting yourself on your back. Or this I
S2: am this or that, because I am none of it.
S2: I'm just me trying to fill my days with joy
S2: and excitement and fulfillment, and then keep going and do
S2: it again. And then if you define that as something aspirational,
S2: go do it. And if you want to learn how,
S2: I'm here and I'll share my my system with you. Um,
S2: but the only voice that you listen to is your own,
S2: and that will drive you. If you have other people
S2: in your ear, it's time to change them. Mm.
S1: It's beautiful because most people are listening to other people
S1: or watching other people's social media accounts and thinking, I'm
S1: not there yet. I don't have that. And then you
S1: start putting labels on, oh, she got lucky. She was
S1: born into this. She was able to do these things
S1: that I wasn't for. Insert the blank reason. So when
S1: you think about yourself and your journey with comparison to
S1: other people in your space, other people who are influencers,
S1: other people who donate their time philanthropically, how do you
S1: continue to listen to yourself and not even just like
S1: subtly kind of have those like little creeping in.
S2: Thoughts of FOMO? Okay, I had that. Okay. I've had
S2: that illness and that's fine. But I used my FOMO
S2: as a driver. I use it as a motivator. I
S2: was like, I want that. I'm going and getting it.
S2: I didn't complain about it. I just found a roadmap.
S2: I'm here and I need to get there. Now, you
S2: you put your own Google Waze in your head and
S2: you're like, can I go this way? How do I
S2: know that can get me there? You activate your network
S2: is your net worth. So you put people around you
S2: that are like minded so that you can kind of
S2: grow together, and you plug into each other's worlds and
S2: you elevate each other. And if the people around you don't,
S2: I don't like to say affirm, because today affirmation has
S2: been used in a completely different woke direction, which I
S2: don't affirm. Um, but if people around you are not
S2: supporting you and empowering you and and giving you constructive
S2: feedback because I don't mean having people around you that
S2: are just your. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, you don't
S2: want that. That's the worst kind of people. But people
S2: around you that are not empowering you to really live
S2: the life you want to live. Change them. There's eight people,
S2: 8 billion people on the planet. Make new friends. What's
S2: the problem? If people around you are not empowering you
S2: to move forward? It's time to close that chapter and
S2: write a new chapter with people that will do that
S2: for you.
S1: I figured out this hack where I will follow people
S1: or look at other people's lives. And when I do
S1: have those feelings of like, man, I'd like to do that,
S1: or like, that looks cool, and how do I create
S1: that in my own life? Instead of being frustrated with
S1: myself or down on myself for thinking that I'm lame or,
S1: you know, whatever the FOMO is, I just think I
S1: want that, and I don't have it yet. So if
S1: you just don't have it yet, you can still believe
S1: in yourself if you really want it to. Your point
S1: about like listening to your own voice. Like, if I
S1: really want this in this lifetime, I just don't have
S1: it yet. But I will get it because it's important
S1: to me. And if I go through that whole train
S1: of thought and I'm like, well, is this really worth pursuing?
S1: As if like, it's a goal and it's something that
S1: I'm going to go after or is or is it
S1: not that important? And it's just some like, silly thing,
S1: maybe I don't really want it and I can be
S1: happy that that person has that, but that's not my
S1: path and that's okay. That it's not my path.
S2: If you don't miss it before you go to bed,
S2: you didn't actually want it. It's very easy to be
S2: influenced into thinking you want something. It's trending. It's cool.
S2: Everyone's doing this. Everyone's doing this trend, I need it.
S2: I've seen people literally go on vacation because they want
S2: to be somewhere, because they want that picture that their
S2: influencers are doing. If you don't miss it before you
S2: go to bed, you don't need it. Listen to your
S2: inner voice as your guide. Simutaneously. It's great to be
S2: influenced because that's what we're doing. We're showing people cool
S2: things to do and cool ways to do it. But
S2: always take a step back and go, this. Yeah, I
S2: like that. That works for me, but not this one doesn't.
S2: Don't be completely gullible. Simultaneously are so easily influenced. Just
S2: because someone you look up to is doing it doesn't
S2: mean that you need to do it. And what I've
S2: always said to my community don't get jealous, get inspired,
S2: get inspired, then get motivated, get motivated, then get into action.
S2: Because that's what I did. I identified as a teenager
S2: what my life needed to look like. How did you
S2: do that? So I was, for me, my environment.
S1: I really want the story.
S2: I just, I was fascinated. I was born in Israel
S2: and then when I was quite young, we moved around
S2: a lot because of my parents jobs. And I moved
S2: to Canada, actually, I moved first to New York, then
S2: back to Israel, then to Canada, and we were supposed
S2: to only move to Canada for a year, and we
S2: ended up never going back to Israel. And it was
S2: very difficult for me as a kid because I had
S2: my family, my community, my friends, and I was really, really,
S2: really lonely and really bullied because I have a funny
S2: name and a funny accent. And, um, there was no
S2: social media back then. There was no talk about mental health.
S2: So if you're bullied, you just had to deal with it. Um,
S2: And my inner voice was saying to me, I'm not
S2: happy where I am, and I'm not happy with this
S2: lifestyle that's being pushed on to me. What am I missing?
S2: What do I love? And when we started traveling, we
S2: went to the Caribbean. And I'll never forget this. I
S2: was in Cuba when the family trip with family and friends,
S2: and I said to me, I like the energy of
S2: this place. I like this Caribbean vibe, but I still
S2: want the amenities of a New York Toronto energy. Worst
S2: place on earth has this? I spun the globe in
S2: my head and I'm. And I'm like 16 years old
S2: and there's no internet. There's no none of these beautiful things.
S2: You have to you can't Google or talk to Siri.
S2: So I spun the globe in my head and I
S2: landed on Florida and I decided, um, that I'm going
S2: to move to Florida at 16, 16, 17, something like that. Okay.
S2: I just it resonated with me. I'm like, it has
S2: nice weather and I'm going to move to Miami. I've
S2: never been to Miami. I didn't know a soul in Miami.
S2: I just it just came to me. Miami. I'm moving here.
S2: And I used to walk around telling everybody that would listen.
S2: I'm moving to Miami. One day I'm moving to Miami. And, um,
S2: I would get cast on a big TV show, um,
S2: a year later called Electric Circus on Much Music, which
S2: is the Canadian MTV. And I used to go salsa
S2: dancing every Sunday. I'm going to condense a long story
S2: into a short story. Um, long story short, we were
S2: salsa dancing. Janet Jackson, Janet Jackson's manager, sees me dancing,
S2: approaches my girlfriend, invites her to the. Invites us to
S2: the Janet Jackson show. My girlfriend, who was no real friend.
S2: Turns out that she takes the tickets, doesn't tell me
S2: about it. Tries to invite anybody and everybody but me
S2: to the show, but she gets canceled by everybody. And
S2: on the day of the show, these tickets that were
S2: intended for me, that I never knew that were even
S2: in existence. You know, jealousy between girls and all that
S2: silly stuff. She invites me out of desperation because nobody
S2: was going to go with her. And it happened to
S2: be a very high holiday in a Jewish religion. Sorry, mom,
S2: you're probably just discovering this now. Yom Kippur. I was
S2: supposed to be fasting, going to synagogue, but it was
S2: a very bad Jew. I decided to sneak out of
S2: the house. Something in me said like, go to this concert.
S2: I don't get invited to cool stuff in Toronto back then.
S2: And we had backstage passes. I never got invited to
S2: a backstage before. So I'm like, I'm going. So I
S2: took a bus, a subway, I walked. I snuck out
S2: of the house. I got to the I got to
S2: the concert. We got there a bit late. Um, saw
S2: the concert, had fantastic seats And, um, this is many
S2: years ago, so I just remember that the concert finishes,
S2: the stadium is starting to empty out. I go to
S2: the front of the stage with my little sticker that
S2: says backstage stuck on me proudly, and they go to
S2: the security and I go, hi. I got backstage for
S2: Janet Jackson. Security goes, oh no, you missed that. That
S2: was before the concert. Janet is packing up. She's going
S2: to Montreal. Concert's over. Go home, little girl. And when
S2: I want something, nothing gets in my way. And I'm like, no, no, no,
S2: I got backstage. See, the sticker says backstage. You're in
S2: my way. Move, bitch out. I'm going there. Yeah. He's like, no.
S2: And he's like three times my size. And he's like, no.
S2: And I'm like, but my ticket says backstage, do you
S2: have a manager? Do you have someone who can talk
S2: to you? Um, and this goes back and forth for
S2: some time because all I know is my girlfriend disappeared. Um,
S2: The stadium is empty. 50,000 people are gone. And I'm still, like,
S2: pointing at the sticker, going like I'm going backstage and
S2: this guy shows up out of the blue like I've
S2: never met. And he goes, hi, what's going on here?
S2: And I'm like, hi. I've got backstage passes. And he
S2: looks at me and he goes, were you at this
S2: nightclub dancing salsa three weeks ago? I go, you're creepy,
S2: but yes. Um. Why? He goes, you were wearing this
S2: Tommy Hilfiger outfit. I'm like, extra creepy. But yes, that
S2: was me. Does that mean I get to work backstage?
S2: He goes, I'm jacked. And I'm like, great. Who cares?
S2: And he's like, I gave you the tickets. I'm like,
S2: you didn't give me any tickets. My friend gave me
S2: tickets and she just told me about it today. He goes, no, no, no,
S2: those tickets were yours. I was too shy to talk
S2: to you. So when you went to the bathroom, I
S2: went to your friend and said, I'd love to invite
S2: you and her to the show, and I gave her
S2: the tickets, hoping that I'd meet you backstage and you
S2: didn't show up backstage. And I said, well, I just
S2: was invited a few hours ago. Um, but if you
S2: wanted to invite me. Here I am backstage, and he's like,
S2: he lifts the rope and he goes, let's go backstage.
S2: And we go straight to Janet Jackson's bus. And I
S2: get on the bus and I sit with him and
S2: I go, by the way, you have an accent. Where
S2: are you from? And he goes, Florida. I go, that's funny,
S2: I'm going to move to Miami. And Janet Jackson turns around.
S2: She goes, I've got this apartment HBO rented for me
S2: in Miami for the Velvet Rope tour, and I use it.
S2: You can go stay there. No. Two weeks later, I
S2: was in Janet's apartment, and I never left Miami. And
S2: now I've got my green card, and here I am.
S2: I've lived all around the world since then, but that's
S2: what I mean with setting attention. And guys, there was
S2: no internet, there was no Instagram, there was no Facebook,
S2: there was no internet, there was no cell phones. Do
S2: you make it happen? It's manifestation by the power of
S2: putting it out there. But it's not just putting it
S2: out there, praying in your church and then thinking it's
S2: going to drop on your lap. It's everything I told everybody,
S2: and one day I told the right person and that
S2: person opened that door. And till today, him and I
S2: are friends. In fact, he was doing the pink concert
S2: the other day, so he sent me tickets to that.
S2: He still takes my parents to concerts. My mom especially
S2: like loves it when he's in town. She goes because
S2: he's with Live Nation. And the moral of that story
S2: is there's always a door in front of you, but
S2: you're responsible to identify it, to push it open and
S2: to step through it. Life will give you those opportunities,
S2: but you have to take take them and turn them
S2: into your favor. It's amazing. And then along the way,
S2: I've continuously looked for what is the next thing I
S2: want to build and where is that next door?
S1: How do you not feel silly in the process, when
S1: you're identifying at 16 years old that you want to
S1: move to Florida? Nobody you know lives in Florida, or
S1: you're identifying that you want to start posting content online.
S1: And it's like before you become known for that thing
S1: and before it happens, where you have maybe the imposter syndrome,
S1: the doubt that you feel, the uncertainty. What what is
S1: your process for, like working through your own, maybe limiting
S1: beliefs or what people know you as and getting past
S1: all of that?
S2: Those only exist if you empower the voice that's not
S2: the one that's yours. Those exist because you want to
S2: cater to someone else's opinion. You want to please someone else.
S2: You care if I turned my likes off on Instagram?
S2: Because I don't care if you like it or not.
S2: That's your choice. I'm putting out my content. If you
S2: enjoy it, by all means enjoy it. If you want
S2: to comment, go ahead. But it's not why I do
S2: it and I'm not going to look. I don't look
S2: for myself. And it's. And I don't need to show
S2: the world if it worked or if it didn't. If
S2: it went viral, it didn't. I don't care because I'm
S2: just doing it for me. I like it. I think
S2: the brand I'm working with might like it. Here it is.
S2: Once I post it, I'm done with it. And the
S2: point is, those feelings only come if you're giving somebody
S2: that's not you the power to tell you that you
S2: did good or not, that that post is important or not.
S2: That what you did is validated or not. If you
S2: validate yourself and I don't mean the cuckoo stuff, okay.
S2: If you're barking and you want to validate yourself as
S2: an animal. Get help because that. I'm sorry. I'm not
S2: validating that. If you come to me and you want
S2: me to call you a pizza, I'm putting hot sauce
S2: on you and I'm gonna bite you so damn hard.
S2: You're going to regret that. So don't come to me
S2: for the crazy, because I don't do good with it.
S2: I'm not built for that. I'm extremely rational. One plus
S2: one is two. And it always has been. It always
S2: will be. And if you want to debate me on
S2: that and you can't prove it with science. I come
S2: from scientific background. My dad's a scientist. I'm the wrong audience.
S2: So pick your battles, pick your audience, pick your tribe.
S2: And the great thing with me is I don't need
S2: everyone to agree with me. I don't need everyone to
S2: validate me. And I think that we're breeding weakness by
S2: telling others that they need to be affirmed. Hello. If
S2: you affirm yourself and you're not stabbing someone to death
S2: in a back alley. Then you're good. As long as
S2: you're within morality and rationality and the law to what you,
S2: to you. And then build the tribe around that, that
S2: supports and elevates and also keeps you in check. You
S2: need to be kept in check. You need to be
S2: told when you're when you're in the wrong direction because
S2: you're not always going to be right. And that's where
S2: your community comes in to say, this is better. This
S2: will work better for you. This is a different route
S2: than you thought, but actually you'll get to where you
S2: need to go faster. And that's why you should always
S2: start with your voice. But then build your board members.
S2: And your board members are your friends, your family. But
S2: even the best companies, right? Like Ten-x, you have a board,
S2: you have a team. You have a network that's keeping
S2: the the the company alive. It's just not one person.
S2: That's why when you say unapproachable, you have to be approachable,
S2: but it's to the right person. Am I sitting in
S2: an Uber and talking with the Uber driver? Happily? Sometimes, yes, sometimes.
S2: I'm on my phone. Right. You got to pick who
S2: you exchange your energy with. You got to pick whose
S2: advice you want to take. You want to pick who
S2: that person is that you call at 4:00 in the
S2: morning if you have an emergency. And who is the
S2: friend that you call for? Which picture should be the
S2: cover on my post? There's different, different categories for everyone,
S2: and there's a space for all sorts of kind of friends.
S2: You don't need one person that wears all the hats.
S2: You build your board, and that's how I look at it. Yeah,
S2: and they all.
S1: Have different roles, and you put them in different roles,
S1: and you get to make those decisions of who gets
S1: to stay and who gets fired and who you're bringing
S1: on and onboarding.
S2: Exactly. 8 billion people in the world. If somebody doesn't
S2: serve you. See you later. Yeah. I'm so with you.
S1: It's good. So before this show started, we were talking
S1: about the billionaire lifestyle and I would love to have
S1: you share. The podcast is called Building Billions. I am
S1: a huge proponent of all people stating how much net
S1: worth they want, what financial targets drive them, and making
S1: these conversations more accessible because a lot of people aren't
S1: talking about that. And so walk me through what you
S1: were sharing a little bit earlier about this idea of
S1: building your life as a lifestyle that pays for the
S1: things that you want and that you believe you should have.
S2: I decided that not only do I want to build
S2: a billionaire lifestyle with the Bank of Gulen, so fueling
S2: it for myself and never being with the handouts and
S2: give me I want to build. I want to add value.
S2: I want to lead with value and then meet people.
S2: I think, how can I add value? Look, we did
S2: a project with you guys, with our creators home and
S2: with Ten-x and Gary Brecher and Ten-x Health, and, Um, I'll.
S2: I'll use this as an example. You guys sponsored a
S2: weekend in a 30 day creator's home. So when you
S2: guys came on, is that right? Like, how do I
S2: add more value? So I took that two day sponsorship
S2: and added 28 more days that I didn't charge for
S2: you when I when we went together. We elevate, you
S2: grow and I grow and we lift each other. So
S2: first of all, your network, as you guys love to say,
S2: is your net worth. Surround yourself with people that are
S2: living the life you want to live and can open
S2: you the doors that take you to the next level.
S2: Number one. So networking is incredibly important. Be mindful of
S2: who you keep around you because your time is limited.
S2: So having people that expand your mind, body, soul, creativity,
S2: your passions, your health and your wealth is important. Be
S2: strategic in who you spend your time with. Secondly, I
S2: thought about. I like to cut the line. So while
S2: I worked getting to being a billionaire, I'm going to
S2: find a way to live the lifestyle, but not only
S2: get to live it, get paid to live it. Because
S2: what's better than being a billionaire? Is someone paying you
S2: to sit on the jet. Someone paying you to sit
S2: on the yacht. Someone paying you to stay in a
S2: five star hotel. Someone paying you to wear beautiful diamonds.
S2: Or a beautiful dress or beautiful makeup. And that is
S2: the power. The power is not being on a jet
S2: or a yacht, because that's up to you if that's
S2: your goal. But if you do what you love to do,
S2: you'll never work a day in your life. And if
S2: you find a way to monetize your passions, then you're
S2: already billionaire billionaires. Because now you're getting paid to do
S2: the things you love to do that you would do
S2: with the money you earned if you were doing a
S2: normal job. So if I was working a normal job,
S2: what would I do with my money? I'd go on vacations.
S2: Really nice ones. And now I get paid to go
S2: on nice trips and share those adventures on my social media.
S2: And if I don't get paid to do it, at
S2: least I'm not being charged to do it. Which allows
S2: me to continue just living out my passions. And by
S2: sharing it and by storytelling it, I built an audience,
S2: and now I'm a media source to the brands that
S2: want to reach that audience. And those brands are the
S2: goals of the billionaires, because that's where they want to be.
S2: That's who they want to work with. That's where they
S2: want to vacation. That's how they want to travel or
S2: fill in the blank. And so I architect, I designed
S2: the lifestyle that I want to live without having the
S2: means to live it, but by finding a different currency
S2: in my billions is my digital currency. And we all
S2: have that. We all have something to give. You might
S2: be really good at styling. I love your style. I
S2: might call you for fashion. You're like a real life
S2: Barbie to me. You are. So is she. So she's like,
S2: we're we're we're Barbie sisters. And so I might call
S2: you and be like, you've got such great sense of style.
S2: You're so feminine. How can I be a little bit
S2: more feminine? I could be like a bully, like a bulldozer,
S2: you know? So everyone has something to give. Everyone has
S2: something that inspires someone else. Everyone has gone through an
S2: up and a down, and in that experience, they learned something.
S2: And that knowledge is valuable to someone. Someone's trash is
S2: somebody else's gold. So it's not about me and what
S2: I've done or what you have done. It's about acknowledging
S2: in yourself what it is that people come to you for,
S2: and how you could turn that into the business and
S2: what people come to you for. You're good at. If it.
S2: You're good at it. Means you kind of like it.
S2: And if you like it, you're monetizing it. And now
S2: you're getting paid to do what you love to do
S2: that you would anyway do for free. And so your
S2: life is becoming the bank. And if it leads you
S2: to a millionaire or billionaire and that's your definition of success,
S2: then great. But billions is an abundance. And abundance can
S2: be designed and defined in so many ways. You could
S2: be living in a humble tikki in Ubud, Bali, waking
S2: up to your monkeys and coconut. But you are a
S2: billionaire because you own your time. You're at peace. You're
S2: surrounded with beautiful nature. You're eating. Organic farm to table
S2: nature's food. And you're not poisoning your body and you
S2: are living an amazing quality of life. Do you have
S2: billions in your bank? No. But do you need it? No.
S2: Also remember, don't desire what you actually don't need. How
S2: many people do I know that have multiple homes? They
S2: haven't been to the second, third, fourth, fifth home in forever.
S2: I had a friend in, um. I'll tell this story.
S2: I won't say the name. A billionaire friend in Mumbai, India.
S2: And I went to his house and he told me, ah,
S2: do you like my pool? I just moved it. We're
S2: in his mansion. I go, what do you mean? You
S2: moved your pool? I go every two years. I move
S2: the pool to a different part of the house. Sometimes
S2: I put it on the roof, sometimes in the backyard.
S2: Sometimes we build a new floor for it, sometimes in
S2: the front. I go, what do you do that? He goes,
S2: it's fun. I mean, I'm bored. And then he took
S2: me to a room that had Monets and Picasso's and
S2: all this art, and he had to go look under
S2: his multi-million dollar art. To like this one is to
S2: tell me, Picasso. No. And I'm like. And he's like,
S2: I've been in this room two times. I'm like, well,
S2: why did you buy all this art? Oh it's valuable.
S2: It's it's, you know, it shows that I can. And
S2: I'm like, why would you spend this time and effort
S2: acquiring something to stick it in a room that you
S2: never go to? At least put it in the toilet.
S2: So when you have a poop, you can look at
S2: it and appreciate it. Appreciate it, you know, make the
S2: time go by. I'm just like, I would put it
S2: in my toilet. At least I look at it, you know?
S2: I mean, I hang up art in the toilet. I
S2: think it's a great place. You spend time in there.
S2: It's important people undermine that real estate. It's true. It's
S2: a good time. I'm just saying that's a good tip.
S1: I was actually just using the.
S2: Restroom in our.
S1: Office. It's. There's no there's nothing in it. I'm like.
S2: It's just to give you magazines. But nobody reads magazines.
S2: They're all in their phone getting like, you know, like
S2: what would be a next version of a humpback? I
S2: don't know. Humpback of Notre Dame. Yeah, all of us.
S2: Hump neck. Neck issues for sure. Double chins. Great. And so. Hey. Yeah. Well, reality,
S2: the the Instagram versus reality side, right? Totally. All day long.
S2: And just try to type like this. But the point
S2: I'm saying is these people have all the wealth they
S2: can have. I have a friend that's made $700 million
S2: since Sunday till today. Oh, wow. In crypto. He's not
S2: gonna live long enough to spend that. I don't know.
S2: That's in a few days. Yeah. Wow. Well, you know,
S2: what's he gonna do with that? Buy another yacht. He's
S2: got seven. Buy another jet. He's got two. Buy another home. He's.
S2: But he's got one. But only he can only be
S2: in one home. Yeah. So all I'm saying is desire.
S2: What will actually fulfill you and know where the point.
S2: The tipping point is where your desires become your enemy.
S2: Where they start to torture you. Where that self-doubt comes.
S2: Where that. Oh my God, I don't have this. That
S2: means I'm a failure. I can't show it off to
S2: my friends, my Birkin or my watch or my. Who
S2: cares what? Um, so you have to find that balance.
S2: Because billions is your ability to wake up in the morning,
S2: be at peace with yourself, own your day and go
S2: to bed going like I am grateful for x, y,
S2: z because today I did things that I feel grateful for.
S2: And if that's getting you to bed at peace, you're
S2: a billionaire. Yep, you're doing it right.
S1: You know, I think of those people who are making
S1: that amount of money at some point. You can only
S1: buy so many things, right? There's only so many watches
S1: or bags or you name it, jets. Um, but at
S1: some point. I find this with myself. Often I like,
S1: do I really need this? I think everybody at whatever
S1: threshold that they're at can really ask an honest question like,
S1: do I really need this thing? And does it bring
S1: me joy? Or does it add to my life in
S1: some way? Or is the motive behind this to impress somebody,
S1: to have some status symbol to fill some void, to
S1: just have another thing like a dopamine hit? But then
S1: once you like, reach that point when you recognize that
S1: you're making spending decisions based off of things that aren't
S1: important to you, and you kind of get slapped in
S1: the face with causes and people who need you, all
S1: of a sudden, the motivation can very easily turn to, well,
S1: I want to make more money, not just to spend
S1: on whatever I want, but to be able to make
S1: an impact. And I know that you have done a
S1: significant amount of philanthropic work. And so how do those
S1: things tie together in the world that you live in,
S1: where there is so much lavish luxury stuff, while also
S1: being able to kind of shield that or redirect that
S1: conversation to giving back, making a difference, creating an impact,
S1: and not using wealth just for the finer things in life,
S1: but also to really change people's lives.
S2: So it takes the same energy to give to others
S2: as it does to yourself simultaneously. I'll give you an example.
S2: When I was launching my fashion line, I had, um,
S2: in London, we were launching a fashion line. It was
S2: me and my designer, incredibly talented designer, but we didn't have.
S2: I was like 22. I didn't know it was 25
S2: and I didn't have investors. I didn't have a lot
S2: of money. I moved to the US with $200 in
S2: my pocket. Wow. I had this is a side story,
S2: a funny story. I had a bank account that I
S2: earned from, like, working side hustles as a teenager and
S2: then when I moved to the US, because remember, there's
S2: no digital world back then I had like 200 bucks
S2: to my name, and then I built everything and I
S2: forgot that I had a $15,000 in a bank, which,
S2: you know, is not life changing. But back then we're
S2: talking about like in the late 90s, it was a
S2: decent amount of money. Yeah. For a 20 something year old,
S2: like 15, $20,000 in a bank from like side hustles,
S2: like selling pizzas on the weekend, working at the shoe store,
S2: being a go go dancer at bar mitzvahs, like, whatever,
S2: you know, did it. And I forgot because my parents
S2: being good Jewish parents like, save your money. So I
S2: saved it so much I forgot it was there. I
S2: moved to US $200. I only acknowledge what was in
S2: front of me, and I acted like as if I
S2: was poor. And that mentality though, that like, that's like
S2: that fear of like, oh my God, that trained me
S2: for everything. Because even though I, my parents have a
S2: beautiful 7000 square foot house in Toronto. We live in
S2: a very affluent neighborhood. We never had to struggle a day.
S2: I literally moved to Miami. I don't know what happened.
S2: I forgot, and I acted like in my mind for
S2: the first year. Like, if I don't make another dollar,
S2: I'm on the street. I'm calling my parents because I've
S2: got too much pride. So I get a letter from
S2: the bank 15 or 20 years later, or I don't
S2: know how many years, like maybe less than, like ten,
S2: 15 years later to my parents home, which we still had.
S2: Our family home, thankfully. Is Miss Gulan deceased? No. It's
S2: terrifying because this account has been untouched for at that
S2: point over 20 years just sitting there. So the bank
S2: wants to like, close the account. They're like is don't
S2: Google me. I'm like, hello? Hi. I'm very much here.
S2: Very not deceased. Is she deceased? And I'm like, oh,
S2: I have all this money I made when I was 16, 17, 18,
S2: and I still have that account. I've yet to touch
S2: that account. The bank knows I'm alive. But the moral
S2: of the story is you need a lot less than
S2: you realize, and you think you need a lot less.
S2: Happiness is a construct that you have to allow yourself
S2: to have. The only thing that will give you happiness
S2: is your mindset. Getting it piece with your heart and
S2: your soul and your intentions, and you own that ability.
S2: And then everything else is a hit. Like you said,
S2: you're happy and then your brain is like, okay, what's next?
S2: That said, don't get me wrong, I have a house
S2: in London, six floors stuffed with stuff that I'll never
S2: be able to. I have more shoes than that Imelda
S2: was a crazy shoe collector. I have more shoes than
S2: I have feet will ever wear. I have more gowns
S2: than I have. Days will live and where? I have
S2: too much of everything. Um. And I still want more.
S2: There's nothing wrong with wanting things. There's nothing wrong with motivation.
S2: There's nothing wrong with wanting wealth. I'll tell you something
S2: like rich shaming is a joke. Because if you go
S2: to any person who is struggling, they will take your
S2: spot and they will not apologize and they won't even
S2: look back. So don't for one second think that you
S2: should sit there and feel shame for wanting or achieving
S2: whatever it is you achieve. Because believe me, there's a
S2: billion plus people that will kick you off that seat
S2: and won't even say thank you. So if you're sitting
S2: on your jet. Level up. If you're sitting on your yacht.
S2: Toast to you. And if you're dreaming of it, go
S2: and get it. Because there's so many ways today to
S2: achieve those goals. Social media TikTok. Instagram has made it
S2: so easy for you to get your message to the world,
S2: to build a community, to build a fan base. Brands
S2: don't even look for mega influencers anymore. They're working with
S2: micro and macro and nano, and so there's a spot
S2: for everyone, and there's no excuse for you not to leave.
S2: Live the ultimate lifestyle that you can live. And you
S2: shouldn't apologize for being hungry or motivated. And yes, while
S2: being nice, you also have to be a shark and
S2: know when to say no. And one of my favorite
S2: things to do on Instagram will surprise you. I'm ready.
S1: Block you. Block people all day long. The haters, the
S1: negative people.
S2: Whatever. Okay, you think I want those followers? I get
S2: rid of them before they get rid of themselves, because
S2: this is my community and it's my space. And in
S2: that space I get to decide who gets to interact
S2: because I care about my followers. I read all their messages.
S2: I respond to them as often as I can, and
S2: if somebody comes there, that doesn't resonate with me in
S2: that way, I'm not going to have a debate with them.
S2: I'm not your mommy. I'm not here to teach you
S2: or change your mind. If you're sliding into my DM
S2: or into my comment section, or if I somehow see
S2: that on your page, you're don't resonate with my values.
S2: You're gone before you know it. Because it's my space,
S2: it's my home, and you're not going to bring anybody
S2: into your home, are you? And even though it's public,
S2: I still have that power to say not you either,
S2: because at the end of the day, your energy is
S2: even affected by the people on the other side of
S2: that digital space. And if somebody is coming into your
S2: space and they are bullying you, harassing you, shaming you,
S2: block them, forget them, move on, replace them. It's fun.
S2: I think it's really fun. My boyfriend is too nice
S2: guy to block. I'm like, he gets harassed sometimes by people.
S2: Or the first time he had a hater, he really
S2: felt bad. And I'm like, just block. It's part of the.
S1: Part of the process. Just I find it really motivating.
S2: And not just in real block in real life too. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
S1: For sure. And in real life. I don't know, there's
S1: something about people who know the right button to push.
S1: There's one thing when it's just, like, really just, like,
S1: nasty and derogatory and, like, truly hateful. And I'm all
S1: about blocking those people. But I can remember so many
S1: times that I've actually screenshotted the direct messages. I one time, like,
S1: received a letter to my house, uh, or just comments
S1: where people point out the things that I might have
S1: been insecure about in my life, or that I've had
S1: doubts or reservations about for myself, about just how people
S1: perceive me. And there is something that is so motivating
S1: to me in seeing that, that I absolutely every single
S1: time I screenshot it. And sometimes I'm even, you know,
S1: playful back where I will engage if you want. I
S1: won't get defensive, but I, you know, I, I find
S1: it helpful and therapeutic for me to be able to
S1: have my little quippy response back.
S2: Oh yeah. No. Yeah, I totally. Sometimes I get into
S2: it too. Um, usually it's not. Usually I get into
S2: it on other posts or pop up on my feed.
S2: Issues that I care about that are really not part
S2: of what I'm sharing, and I get into it there.
S2: It's funny, I got in trouble a few times, but
S2: I don't care. I'll own it. Um, because I'm not
S2: a I'm not just gonna agree with everything I see,
S2: but what I say to to what you said before,
S2: and I'll say that to anyone that has some kind
S2: of a voice or is getting some kind of feedback.
S2: If you're getting feedback that's negative, Look at yourself as
S2: a power station and look at that feedback as energy.
S2: And you are milling the energy and you're converting it
S2: into power. You have the ability to take all the
S2: hate that the world can throw at you and turn
S2: it into your superpower, turn it into your what fuels
S2: your batteries? And you could laugh at all those that
S2: want to bring you down. As you go up, wave
S2: at them as you go up because they are victims
S2: of their hate. They are disabled by that hate. They
S2: are paralyzed. They are sitting in their grandma's basement in
S2: the dark, thinking and putting their energy into you while
S2: you don't even know they exist. And what? You might
S2: have acknowledged that comment for a millisecond and engage it
S2: for another millisecond. You move on with your incredible life
S2: and they stay in their misery. So always be the
S2: person that takes the shit that the world wants to
S2: throw at you and turn that into gold.
S1: Amazing, I love it. Well, you are spectacular. Thank you
S1: for being on this show. Please check her social media out.
S1: She is fantastic. And where can people find you online?
S1: What is like the platform of choice for you? Um.
S2: Instagram. Instagram official. Okay.
S1: And if they decide to comment something nasty, she's just
S1: going to actually.
S2: Read the comments. I don't read all the comments all
S2: the time, but look, at the end of the day,
S2: it's I'm not saying that you you have to agree
S2: with me. I'm not looking. But if you come in there,
S2: like I'll give you an example. As we're wrapping up,
S2: anti-Semitism has been like in on an insane rise. You
S2: can go and have your opinions, whatever. If you come
S2: into my page and you're going to go and chanting
S2: against the right of my family to exist. I'm gonna
S2: block you. I'm not gonna go and give you energy
S2: and try to say. But why do you think like this?
S2: If your mother didn't educate you, then there's no hope
S2: that I will. So if you're coming for. You're so
S2: wrong on something, I'm going to hit that hate button.
S2: But if you say that you don't like my hair
S2: or my outfit, I don't care. I'm not gonna block
S2: you for that for sure. I'm saying there's there's a
S2: line that people cross. I just remove them for everything else.
S2: Who cares? Totally. Don't give it energy.
S1: Yep. It's just a second of time. It's a blip
S1: in a lifetime. And you get to go. Keep creating
S1: your life.
S2: Use your time to be your power to build your billions.
S1: With that, thank you for being on building billions. Can't
S1: wait to see you guys next time. Don't forget to
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S1: who you think in your life could be benefited by
S1: hearing all of the amazing words from this incredible powerhouse woman.