1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris returning, Hell, if you do spend some time 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: in London. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Or something, we did you sound like you're full London London. Right, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: it's good to see it, man. How are you. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm happy to be back in this 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: beautiful weather. Not twenty degrees anymore. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, no, we've had incredible weather out here in Denver, 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: in Colorado. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're used to Cleveland weather, which is 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: probably a little I. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Saw something where it was a record for the warmest 12 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: game home games of the season. It wasn't a single 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: game under freezing this year, no one, And it must 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: be nice. 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: It won't be on Saturday either. Saturday is gonna be 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the fifties. So yeah, it's weird. I mean, we'll take 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: it because I think it makes the playing fields of 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: these games a little more even. But then at the 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: same time, there's the other side of it. It's like, well, 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: especially here in we're gonna get We're ready to lost 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: to know. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: At some point, I think, well, did you hear about 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 4: Chicago's weather. It's supposed to be this weekend. 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: I did not. 25 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: Supposed to be like negative ten. 26 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Forever for l A wow. 27 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, man, for for a Los Angeles team traveling 28 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: to Chicago that that could play a factor. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: It usually does. I just remember back in the day 30 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: when the Packers obviously the whole home field advantage for 31 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: at Lambeau Fields in the playoffs. I remember at Atlanta 32 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: Falcons when Mike they came up there and they had 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: this whole record of I think pretty much have undefeated 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: and cold weather games at Lambeau, and Atlanta went up 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: there and whipped them Bloys. 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's uh, that's gonna be interesting to 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: this for this weekend. Dave Logan sauntering in and uh, hi, Dave, 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: good to see you. 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: Good to see both of you. Yeah, man, what's up, 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: my guy? How are we doing today? Living a dream? 41 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: Aren't we all every day living a dream? 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: No? 43 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: Not all of us. 44 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: No, not, although Mike Tomlin you know that. Yeah, you 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: called that one. Listen. 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: The first person I thought of Greg Roman being that 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: let go of the Chargers was me. 48 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: I rarely I have such respect for it. Maybe I 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 5: don't have too much respect, but I have such respect 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: for coaches and players. I mean, I'm talking about NFL 51 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: players and coaches because I know I know how hard 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: it is. It's hard, man, even though you're making a 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 5: lot of money. 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: I get that. 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not saying we should feel sorry for him, 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: but I always always have there's a respect level that 57 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: when I think, like, man, I would have done something 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: different or I'd have made a different call there. 59 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: I just know how how. 60 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: Much a lot of those guys, not all of them, 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 5: but a lot of them grind. But watching that game, 62 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 5: as I said yesterday with the Chargers, I'm like, this 63 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: is I said it yesterday And that's as close to 64 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: coaching mailpractice as I can remember in a game. 65 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: And he winds up getting fired. 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: What was it two years? Two touchdowns and for the 67 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: Charges in two years with Harbaugh and Greg Roman, there's 68 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: two touchdowns total in playoffs. In the playoffs, somebody has 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: to be held accountable. And it's not going to be hardball. 70 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: You know. 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: It's such a tough thing. 72 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: And I like what you said there at the beginning 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: about that though, the level of respect you have for 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: the position of coaching, regardless of whatever level it is, 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: because it is a hard is a hard thing on. 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: I do think sometimes in media we. 77 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Get a little eager with um, this guy needs to 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: be fired and that guy needs to be fired. And 79 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: I imagine out in Philadelphia with Kevin Batulo being let 80 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: go of his position as OC, there are people out 81 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: there saying, why are we not firing Nick Sirianni, who 82 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: just won. 83 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: A Super Bowl last year? 84 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: I think there are fewer people that want to fire 85 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 5: Siriani and more people that wanted Kevin Petullo fired, for sure. 86 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 5: And you know, listen, I mean, I've I've been a 87 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 5: member sort of of the media for a long time, 88 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: and I enjoy many different opinions and you know, having 89 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 5: fun and trying to trying to be informative, a little 90 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: entertaining and all that, but speaking about nobody in particular, 91 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: there are people in the media that don't have a 92 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: clue what the hell they're talking about. And so when 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 5: you hear them talk, and I'm talking about even on 94 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: a national level, when I hear them breaking down something 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 5: or you know, what a play call was, and then 96 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: they either want a diagram it. 97 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 4: Or then they just want to talk about this guy. 98 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, I see that, I know that you 99 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: don't know what you're talking about, and yet you have 100 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: this job. And so I don't be grudget, but I know, 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: they just don't know. They don't know, so stop acting 102 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 5: like you know. 103 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: Right. 104 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: The analogy I use is that I've been in an 105 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: airplane gosh so many times in my life. 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: That mean I can fly one. 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: You know that it takes off. You know that. 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 4: It takes off and hopefully it lands. 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: I'm good, right, if both those things happened, I'm really good. 110 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: But I know, don't put me in the cockpit and 111 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 5: try to have me fly this thing. 112 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Just because you know it takes off and lands. I 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: mean you suddenly know a flying Yeah. 114 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: Well, if these coaches, if a lot of these coaches 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: don't know how to talk ball, I highly doubt most 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: journalists even know how to do it too. And that's 117 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: what you're really seeing. You saw the dumpster fire and 118 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: Vegas where they were talking about the gm IS holding 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: meetings with the players because they're not getting the direction 120 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: from the coaches. 121 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 5: So if and that was Pete's son, that they weren't 122 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: getting coached by, let's let's be honest about it. 123 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: And so in that same aspect, if the professionals can 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: barely talk about it, how can we expect journalists who, 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: especially a lot of sports journalists the way I look 126 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: at a lot of sports journalists is they're really more 127 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: political journalists that couldn't get into that realm, and so 128 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: they go into sports and they still kind of have 129 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: the same tone as a political analyst and it's sports 130 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: just like Okay, Well, you know, I'm sure you guys 131 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 3: talked about it, but I'm so confused what all the 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: backlash was about that one journalist that asked Liam about 133 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: this just being encouraging. 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, she didn't ask any she was encouraging. 135 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: What's the big deal about that? 136 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we can get it. 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: We just did a little bit of that yesterday. But 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: we can definitely get into it. So it's it's it's 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: a time and place, right, I'm telling you the other 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: side of it. So just you know, I didn't actually 141 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: have a problem specifically with her, okay, because I thought 142 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: it was used more kindness. But time and place of 143 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a press conference is for information gathering, right, It's for 144 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: being a conduit to the fans. So now, maybe the 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: conduit for the fans actually needs a member of the 146 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: media to say nice things to the coach there. But 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: generally speaking, that's not the job of the media. The 148 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: job of the media is to get information qualified. 149 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 5: It's not generally speaking, that is not the job of 150 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: the media. As I said yesterday, not a hilt to. 151 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 6: Dian for me. 152 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: She seemed like she was sweet, maybe a little bit older, 153 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 5: and she had good intention. 154 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: But the reality of it is you're not there. 155 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: You know, to tell the coach, hey, listen, you should 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 5: feel real good about what you That's not your job. Again, 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: not a hilt to Diyan for me, but you wouldn't 158 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: want to see that, like on a continuing basis, be 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: part of a postgame press conference for an NFL coach. 160 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Well, I on that aspect, though, I think it was 161 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: more of nobody expected the job wires to even be there, 162 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: So don't beat yourself up too much. We really didn't 163 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: expect you to be there. Now, I get it what 164 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: you have to say, though, and that small ample amount 165 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: of time is a question asking time. 166 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: I get that, Yeah, but. 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: Can you imagine somebody asking Sean Payton after a game listen, coach, hey, 168 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 5: you hold your head Look look at me when I 169 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: talk to you. 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: You hold your head up. You hold your head up. Sean, 171 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: you hear me, You hold your head up. You were 172 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: We're proud of you. 173 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: Here in Denver, and she couldn't really call them a 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: young man, but she or anybody could say, just very 175 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: proud of what you accomplished. 176 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: I dominate Chris Thomason to do that too. 177 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I think, I think, Okay, oh my god, can you 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: imagine kids, kids, Listen. 179 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: I know this isn't your. 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Thing, but we need you to do this for us country, 181 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: need you to be up there saying, hey, coach, you 182 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: did a great job this year. I like, park, you 183 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: say that, so good good job. 184 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a back and forth. 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Listen, there's one more little thing for me, and we 187 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: didn't get chance to get into all the layers of this. 188 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: We're starting to blur the lines a bit here on media, 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: on on traditional legacy media versus fan media. They're credentially 190 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: what websites that are out there, their fan websites, they're 191 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: credentially not not saying specifically just here local, I'm saying nationwide. 192 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: A lot of these teams are starting to credential fan blogs, 193 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: fan websites that will go in and then they'll try 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: to be professionally, try to ask questions. 195 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: But I'm saying we're already blurring those lines. 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if some more of these 197 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: kinds of situations come up. 198 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: Well, I only laugh because I guess the White House 199 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: started this, So if we want to go into that, 200 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like that's the funniest part. 201 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: We can't get mad at the sports at sports journalism 202 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: when you know, really the biggest journalists, you know, the 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: the entities that we have are you know, backdooring deals 204 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: with the White House? So why are we that mad 205 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: at them when we see it on national news. 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: I don't think we're mad at them. 207 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: No, No, he is mad. 208 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: I just think that. But I'm just thinking, are actually 209 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: mad about that? 210 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you've got some some journalists that have been 211 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: added for a long time, and I don't think they're wrong. 212 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 5: It just wasn't Again, it wasn't a hill to die 213 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: in for me when the question comes out and I'm 214 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: here and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, what in the 215 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 5: actual hell's going on here? 216 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: Right? 217 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: But you know, she did it in a way, there 218 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 5: was a there was a I thought she was genuine 219 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: I thought she like spoke from the heart. I mean 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: she she genuinely wanted him Liam Cohen to hold these 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 5: set up and feel good about what they accomplished this year, 222 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: and and for that alone, you know I'm good with 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 5: But by and large, that is not the venue for 224 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 5: somebody to have that kind of conversation without the head coach. Now, 225 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: if you want to after he's he's leaving the press conference, 226 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 5: you want to say, hey, coach, you got you got 227 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: ten seconds and and tell him cool. 228 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: But to the point, and the last thing for me 229 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: on this, the point is, you know who had a 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: problem with it was a lot of media. 231 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: You who didn't have a lot of problem with it. 232 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 4: Fans. 233 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: I was watching Jacksonville Jaguars fans out there and drove 234 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: saying I love she. 235 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think. 236 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 5: And those would be the same fans that next year 237 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 5: if Jacksonville winds up going seven and ten, they'll want 238 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: Liam Cohen's head on a platter. That's same fans. So 239 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 5: fans are fickle fans are I think? I think Jacksonville 240 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 5: fans are appreciative of the fact that Liam Cohen, the 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 5: first year head coach, came in. He got that quarterback 242 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: to play. I mean, somebody got him to play pretty well. 243 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 5: So you got to credit the head coach because if 244 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: if next year, Trevor Lawrence doesn't play well, you're going 245 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: to look at the head coach and say, what, like, 246 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: what are you doing with this guy this year? 247 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: Right? So I get that, I mean I do. 248 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: By the way, we're still efforting Garrett Bulls. Today's practice 250 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: day for the Broncos because of a Saturday game. So 251 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: if we can get him on the show at some 252 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: point here, we will do that. 253 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 4: I believe that's going to happen. 254 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: Okay, just to. 255 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: Be Garrett, I believe it. I don't believe it's Garrett. 256 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we are going to have Rod Smith's studio, 257 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the Electri five, which is going to be good. 258 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: What is going on with your division, Shelby? 259 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: We have three coaches now out give us Tefanski Cleveland Browns. 260 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh was relieved with his duties last week and 261 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: then Mike Tomlin he stepped down. In fact again needs 262 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: to be framed correctly. He didn't fire himself. I guess 263 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: he fired himself, but they didn't fire him. And it 264 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to do a TV deal or something, 265 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: maybe take a year off. 266 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: They retain his rights. So it's kind of like a 267 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: Sean Payton situation. 268 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: The Steelers retain his rights, so if a team wants 269 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: him next year, they're gonna have to trade with the 270 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers to acquire him. But your division, man, it 271 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: is uh, it's pretty wild times. 272 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm a big believer that the grass is not always greener. 273 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: And you know, we're in a time now where we 274 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: want we want these instant results, and even if we 275 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: had results a year before the next year, if it's 276 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: not the same results or even better, or calling for 277 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: somebody's head. But I'm a believer of when you make 278 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: a coaching change, you need to be able to see 279 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: the airic parent out there already. You need to know 280 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: who you already want. And right now it seems like 281 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: there's hardball, there's Justfanski, and then there's everyone else. And 282 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: then it's like, well, we'll see what we kind of 283 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: get with these guys, and then there's everyone else. 284 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: And I don't like it. 285 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: I think a couple of teams panicked and fired the 286 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: coaches too quickly. 287 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 4: It was one of them yours. 288 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: I always have had Kevin Stevanski in the highest regard, 289 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: and I even said after the last game that I 290 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: didn't you know, I always would ride for Kevin. He's 291 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: one of my favorite coaches of all time. You know, 292 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: obviously they have to make a decision. They did what 293 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: they wanted to do. But I've always been a fan 294 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: of Kevin Stefanski. You know, he had three you know, 295 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: finished three great years in Cleveland. But I you know, 296 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: I definitely believe Baltimore rushed. It's a delicate situation in Baltimore. 297 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is not your normal quarterback. You can't run 298 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: a normal offense with Lamar Jackson, so you kind of 299 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: need to have tweaks in a little bit of the 300 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: way when it comes to the offense and Lamar, and 301 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: years prior, it's always been the team that's really let 302 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: Lamar down in the playoffs. Now, Lamar didn't play his 303 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 3: best week seventeen against the Steelers, but the Ravens really 304 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: didn't help him that much. And so to sit there 305 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: and put all the emphasis on Lamar and Lamar and Lamar, 306 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: I think the emphasis needs to be on that old line. 307 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: That old line is the issue. That's that old line 308 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: is what got Lamar heard in the first place. But 309 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: now we want to put blame on people, and obviously 310 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: people have to answer to you didn't make the playoffs. 311 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: I just think they panicked when they fired John Arbot. 312 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: I think that's the wrong move right there. 313 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting Dave with the Tonland News today because we've 314 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: been talking about it for a while and Ben also 315 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of echoed it. I know you'd echoed a little 316 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: bit of the expectation there. Multiple things can be true. 317 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: In my opinion, one of the greatest coaches in this 318 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: game never had a losing season, also lost seven straight 319 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: playoff appearances. Like that, There's gotta be some something for that, 320 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: right Well. 321 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 5: You you mentioned earlier the fans, and I think ownership, 322 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: believe it or not, they they are affected, and they 323 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: listen to their fans. They they'll send out surveys. You know, 324 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: they're marketing people. I mean they listen to sort of 325 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: ground swell feelings from their their core group of fans. 326 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: And I think Pittsburgh fans when you think about it, 327 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: they haven't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. I 328 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: mean that's in a city that is used to really 329 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: win in a lot of games, and you know, competing 330 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: in Super Bowls. 331 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean, how many Super Bowls have the Steelers been in? 332 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: Ohs bunch. 333 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: I mean they won four in a six year period 334 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: back when I was playing, and then they beat Arizona. 335 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: I think they've won six and been in what eight 336 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: They've been okay, so six, So they've been in eight 337 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: super Bowls, won six, So I think that. I think 338 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: Mike tomlin Is is a really good coach. 339 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: If he wants to get back into coaching. 340 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: I don't think he'll have any problem whatsoever if he 341 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: wants to do a year TV. 342 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 343 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: I think that may be harder on him than actually coaching, 344 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 5: but it may it may sort of recharge his batteries, 345 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: much like Sean Payton. But I think guys who coach 346 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 5: want to coach, and I think it's you know, you 347 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: can say I'm going to go do a year TV. 348 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 5: But I think if unless you have come to the 349 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: conclusion that you're absolutely done, which I think Mike's too 350 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: young for that, I think you'll start to have an 351 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: itch to get back. And I think Mike will have 352 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: plenty of opportunity after next year. Now, who comes in? 353 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 5: I think that's an interesting, interesting sort of discussion, And 354 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: who's going to play quarterback for the Steelers and what 355 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: offensive minded coach would want that. Of guys that you 356 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 5: really think would be an upgrade or as good as 357 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin. You can find a lot of young guys 358 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: that are either coordinators or position coaches and they say, 359 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: you know, hey, would you like a chance to be 360 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: the head coach? And say, hell, yes, he's thirty four 361 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 5: years old and never been a head coach. 362 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: But is that a guy that you can build with? 363 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: And you don't have a quarterback right now in Pittsburgh. 364 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: The issue in Pittsburgh they refuse to rebuild the offense. 365 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: It's like a band aid fix every offseason. 366 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: We did that here for a while. 367 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's shown, Yeah, you might win nine games, 368 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah you might win ten games, but the buck stops 369 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: there is over after that point. So Pittsburgh just needs 370 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: to go all in. I don't know if this is 371 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: the gear, but they need to rebuild their offense. And 372 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: I don't think the problem is an offensive coach or anyway. 373 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: They need new players. 374 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: I tell you what else they better I think address 375 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: and in watching that game last night, the Steelers, when 376 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: they have been the Steelers, you didn't run the ball 377 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 5: on them last night. 378 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: The Texans lined. 379 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 5: Up in some fairly basic looks and just kicked the 380 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 5: Steelers defensive ass up and down the field running the ball, 381 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: which completely shocked me. Right, I mean, I knew the 382 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 5: offensive line was going to struggle, and everybody struggles against Houston, 383 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 5: and then when you have a line that like that, 384 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: you're really going to struggle. But man, I don't even 385 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 5: know what the Texans rush for, but average per carry 386 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: had to be pretty significant. 387 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: They ended up rushing for one hundred and sixty four yards, 388 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: averaging five point three per carry. 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: You can't that's losing football from a defense. So standpoint. 390 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: So you can say, well, we don't have a quarterback. True, 391 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 5: you win need some offensive wine help. That's true too. 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: You better start looking at that defense. And you know, 393 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: and that I've seen other teams that couldn't couldn't really 394 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: run the ball, right, They were pretty good the week 395 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: before against Baltimore for the most part. I don't know, 396 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I it'll be interesting to see what they do. 397 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think the Texans couldn't throw the ball 398 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: for a big part of that game. 399 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: C J. 400 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: Stroud tried to give the game to Pittsburgh and. 401 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: Then so they had to, you know, go to the run, 402 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: and it was so obvious, and then Pittsburgh just really 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: did nothing to stop it. And that is just so 404 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: unlike what we're used to seeing from a Pittsburgh team 405 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: and then watching their old line get bullied on the 406 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: other side of the ball. But we've been seeing it 407 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: for the last couple of weeks. That they're just the 408 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: trenches is usually what you think of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 409 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: You think the trenches are going to be solidified, and 410 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: that's the opposite of what we saw yesterday. 411 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: By the way, CJ. Stroud, of course threw an interception 412 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: in the game. 413 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: He was credited with five fumbles. Now some of those 414 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: were center right, they had problems to only he only 415 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: lost two, but five fumbles in the game, so to 416 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: the point it seemed like he was trying to give 417 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the game away. 418 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: I certainly felt like that at times. All Right, we're 419 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: off and rolling here. 420 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: They're be getting a lot of requests on the text line, 421 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Shelby for you to diagnose and diagram the Buffalo Bills 422 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: the Broncos next opponent. So we will have to get 423 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: into that here relatively shortly. You have for that, you 424 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: already know. Let's get it first. Text Hey, welcome back. 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: Best hands in the league. A side note, I think 426 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: it's hilarious how last year the Four Letter Network and 427 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: others said this team had the worst rated roster. 428 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: This year, which is a very. 429 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: Similar team, has the most All pros in the NFL, 430 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: shows how much they know. Yeah, congratulations to the Broncos 431 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: six All pros this year. 432 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 3: I feel like every year this kind of happens where 433 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: the media and players, just because the team necessarily wasn't 434 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: good last year, everyone suspects theming to be bad again 435 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 3: the next year. As it's like the Jaguars. No one 436 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: expected the Jaguars to be good and then people took 437 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: straw hitson got better, and then they ended up in 438 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs. And look at the Broncos, in which, granted 439 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: nobody saw this jump as quick, nobody believed that there 440 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: was gonna be this quick of a fix. So you 441 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: gotta give credit to George Peyton and Sean Sean because 442 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: that I am am still amazed by what the Broncos 443 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: are doing. 444 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: We'll come back to the Broncos one second. I want 445 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: to play you a little bit of audio for fun. 446 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: Borrow shotgun bro. 447 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 6: Big on him. 448 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: There it is Miles Garrett sack number twenty three, the 449 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: new single season sack king. Now, the only thing we're 450 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: missing from that call from the Cleveland Brows Radio network 451 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: is the high five that Shelby Harris did to the 452 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: ref right after that. 453 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: Dude, what was that? 454 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Just like in the moment so he would was that 455 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: like he he was holding his hands up and so 456 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: you just were like, let's go. 457 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: Man. 458 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: I was just hype. I was hype for my boy. 459 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: If you know the context behind it. It was fourth quarter, 460 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: last game of the year. He pretty much have been 461 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: in twenty two sacks the last three games. Teams had 462 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: did everything possible. I went on record and even said 463 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: it about the Steelers. They seemed like they cared more 464 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: about not giving up the sack record than they did winning, 465 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: and so that, you know, obviously they had to go 466 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: to week seventeen and play the Ravens that way. But man, 467 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: it was just so exciting, just so happy, and so 468 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: much emotion because even though the book is gonna say 469 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett twenty three sacks, that is a Cleveland Browns 470 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: we field as is a team thing. All of us 471 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: worked together to get to get Miles that record and 472 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: it's nothing anyone can say or do to take that 473 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: from us. And it was. 474 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 4: It was. 475 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: It was such a happy moment. And you know, obviously 476 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: the ref was walking up trying to trying to stop 477 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: the play. I'm over here celebrating, and so I gave 478 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: him a high five. There's nothing wrong with that. 479 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: No, no, you have a high fivef No, no, never 480 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: think about it. 481 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: No, no, you're like short of touchdown. 482 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: And it was just like, no, the ref is holding 483 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: up his hands for touchdown run by, and well, you. 484 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: Know, it wasn't my first time Miles had got us 485 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: back against the Raiders, but when we played him in Vegas, 486 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: we were hyped. Inn I think it was like this 487 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: four sack. Yeah, ended up giving a ref high five. 488 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 3: Then hey, if you're walking up with your hand up 489 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: to Shelbier, I suspect a high five. 490 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: There you go. 491 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 5: We we did have off off the topic. We had 492 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: a texture that took exception to what I said about 493 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 5: the reporter sounding sweet and a little older like my auntie, 494 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: and uh, the texture said sweet and older, thanks Dave 495 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 5: logan jerk, and I said, what what are you talking about? 496 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 5: The texture came back and said, is this not the 497 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 5: text line for KOA. I was listening to Dave Logan 498 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: coming home and heard his comments about a reporter. If 499 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 5: this is not the right text line, let me know. 500 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: It really rubbed me the wrong way. And what I 501 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 5: said was what I just said. I mean, she was sweet, 502 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: a little older, sounded like my my auntie. And if 503 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 5: that rubs you the wrong way, then you're too easily rubbed. Wow, 504 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just that's I mean, really, seriously, I can't, 505 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 5: I can't. 506 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: I mean, is that is that a pejorative? I didn't think. 507 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: I didn't think there's nothing wrong with you because. 508 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 5: I said sweet, a little older and sounds like my 509 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: aunt So somebody's offended with that. 510 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: I mean that. 511 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: I can't tell you how irritating that is. And that's 512 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 5: how we are in this country. It doesn't take anything 513 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: for us to become righteously indignant. 514 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: So just and then I'm done. Just miss me entirely 515 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: on that. Okay. 516 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: I did like the framing of those some people are rubbed. 517 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: Rubbed then then well no, it rubbed me the wrong way. 518 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: I said, Well, then you're rubbed too easily, that's all. 519 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that. 520 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: I like, Again, it's a phrasing thing. But I like it. Yeah, 521 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: I like it. 522 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: Well, thank you. I feel better, the king of the 523 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: feel better. Oh listen, man, There's plenty of. 524 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: Things that I can say that you might not like 525 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 5: and take exception to, but that ain't one of them. 526 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so people just get too rubbed. Yeah it's good. 527 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 528 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: No, I didn't take that as a pleasejorative. 529 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: I didn't take that. 530 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: I thought I thought you were just acknowledging. Like, hey, 531 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was a sweet moment. Yeah, like acknowledging 532 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: it's a sweet moment. Also time and place, which is 533 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: what we were saying. 534 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean we did. They weren't even upset 535 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 5: about the time and place. They ever said about how 536 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: I characterized the reporter from a place of love, I thought, 537 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 5: so from a place of ambiguity. There's no malice whatsoever. 538 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean if I asked, if I asked 539 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 5: a question in a press conference which I don't get 540 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: the opportunity because we're doing a postgame show, and somebody 541 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: said miss flex, that was no, I just don't get 542 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: any I just don't get it. 543 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: That's not a flex. 544 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I just but I like that flex personally. I'm like, 545 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: and I don't get a chance to ask. 546 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: Because I'm on the radio doing a post game. 547 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 5: I'd rather be in the in the press conference, not 548 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 5: not doing. 549 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: The text line. 550 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: You're really good of it. 551 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. 552 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 5: But if somebody characterized my question, if I asked something 553 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 5: and they said it was really you know, of course 554 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 5: I wouldn't probably ask a sweet question from an older reporter. 555 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 4: Do I lose my mind? Do I lose my mind? Well? 556 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: If people really did like your too easily rubbed, got 557 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: a few texts on that, and you know what, Hey, 558 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: you too easily rubbed? 559 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: Hey, you were too easily rubbed? 560 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 5: Miss mister miss what he whatever, whomever the texture is. 561 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: I really hate this, and I imagine Shelby hates this too. 562 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: There should be an asterisk next to any record that 563 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: requires the season to have more games in order to 564 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: get it. 565 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let me, I'm me and I'll take this. 566 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: I hate that. 567 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 4: I'll take this one. All right. We want to talk 568 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: about games? Okay, cool? 569 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 3: How about we look at the amount of snaps it 570 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: took in order for each one of those records to 571 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: get broken, and you would see that Miles Geart did 572 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: it under less than one hundred snaps less than what 573 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: everyone else had. So what does that tell you he 574 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: actually was more efficient in his way of doing it 575 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: than a TJ. Watt and a Michael Strahan. But of course, 576 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: when the day and age where everyone has to find 577 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: anything to complain about or prepare something else about, that 578 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: is a NFL record, I can care less about what 579 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: you think about an asterisk? 580 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: What did what did the texture say? Oh? The textures? 581 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: A month ago I said that there should be I'm sorry, 582 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: I was sorry lost in that. So there should be 583 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: an asterisk next to any record that requires a season 584 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: have more games in order to get. 585 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 5: It all seventeen games to sixteen? Yes, I mean the 586 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 5: league used to have fourteen. 587 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: Right before that? How many? 588 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: Wasn't it eight at one point in the sixties eight? 589 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: Was it eight? 590 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: No? I don't think so, it was fourteen. It went 591 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 5: to sixteen in nineteen seventy eight. I think it was 592 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 5: fourteen up until that point. I don't ever remember it 593 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: being eight. Maybe at college maybe it. 594 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Was, I don't know, But I mean to the point 595 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: I just listen, it's the game is going to contact. 596 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: We're going to get to eighteen games? Are we going 597 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: to have the same debate, in the same discussion, it's 598 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: going to get to eighteen games. 599 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: That's gonna happen for sure, and miss like. 600 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: Black like baseball, right, I mean baseball used to be 601 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty four games, and then it went 602 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 5: to one hundred and sixty two. I mean Roger Maris 603 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: when he had the home run record. I think I'm 604 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: doing this in my head. I think that was one 605 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty four game. Oh was it maybe that 606 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: was one hundred and sixty two that he broke the 607 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: record that was held by one hundred and fifty four 608 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: game player. I think, is that right? Nineteen sixty one, 609 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 5: I think that sounds right. 610 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: I saw was wrong. 611 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: It was eight games once it was a strike shortened season, 612 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: and it actually was a year. 613 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: Ball there was nine. 614 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 5: I played a strike shortened season in eighty one there 615 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 5: was nine, so eight. 616 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: To nine, and from the forties to the sixth to 617 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty there was twelve game. Then it went from 618 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: twelve to fourteen and afl years in the sixties, then 619 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: it went to seventeen. 620 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, the text line, Dave, where can 621 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: I get rubbed another one? I think Rick maybe getting 622 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: rubbed if he's held in the right position. 623 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 4: Dave. Oh oh, I don't know that I can comment 624 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: about that. Are you going to hold me in. 625 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: A certain position? 626 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: Oh lord? 627 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: I still to this day, could I believe Rick said 628 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: that on the air? 629 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: Love him for it. 630 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: I love the context. 631 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: No, that was no, there was context. Day was offering 632 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: to teach him salsa. 633 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: But still that's that's still a little bit canny a 634 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: little bit. So that makes that's two of us in this. 635 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: Can you salsa? 636 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: Frank, I've never tried it? 637 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: Doesn't have the hips for it? How you know I 638 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 4: can tell that that was not me? 639 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 5: No, well, yes, for sure, you absolutely do not have 640 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: the hips, not at all. I mean for a musician, musician, 641 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 5: I think you're a talented musician. 642 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: You can sing, but can you dance? 643 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: But can I that's yes, that is an absolute note. 644 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 4: But I tried. 645 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: I tried. I've taken my wife to swing dancing lessons. 646 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: We've done that. 647 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 5: Before, Mercy, Mercy, I wish I could have seen that. 648 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: Next time you do something like that record, please please 649 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: have me and Shelby just back there with our cell phones. 650 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't an audience. 651 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: You guys out there in the Peanut gallery telling me 652 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: what I can and can't do. My wife, Boiler very 653 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: much was happy with my choices. 654 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: That's all I matter. 655 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: All that matters. Ryan. 656 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: We'll see if our next guest is ever salcid as 657 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: we head out to the kaw Common Spirit Health Highline 658 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: and bring on Garrett Bowles, who joins us on KWE 659 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Sports present up by Kodiak Building Guardery, he and the 660 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Kodiak Foundation together creating meaningful change with seventy two to charity. 661 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, Garrett, are you a salted guy? 662 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: Guarantee you yes, Kira Shakiratt, you don't know. 663 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: You do not know how to salce. I don't want 664 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: to hear that. 665 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 6: Man. 666 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 4: Don't lie to the people. 667 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 6: Listen, get me on the damp floor. Everyone knows when 668 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 6: they invite me to their wedding. You know, I bring 669 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 6: the party. 670 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: I tried to tell wedding I saw it by what 671 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: I tried. I tried to tell you, he can do it. 672 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: He can do it. 673 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 5: Hey, Garrett's big game obviously coming up Saturday. How without 674 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 5: giving away state secrets, how would you say you're feeling physically? 675 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 6: I'm doing great to be on the I'm ready to 676 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 6: rock and roll, ready to do continue to do what 677 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 6: I do best, and that to protect the people that 678 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 6: I need to protect and get out and you know 679 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: the ring lanes and create holes and and block my 680 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 6: butt off. So I'm excited to be able to do 681 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 6: that coming up here on Saturday. Hey, Garrett, So I 682 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 6: guess my question is obviously you have that Bill's favor 683 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: person in the world. 684 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: You know who it is, Garrett. 685 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: It's your dogs. 686 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 4: I love you, Shelby, I love you my dogs. But 687 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: I guess my question is this is you have a 688 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: formative folk, a formidable folk. 689 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: Coming up here on that and that Bills front seven. 690 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: What are the ways I guess that you can try 691 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: to slow them down because you have Ed Oliver coming back. 692 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: You know, you have these players that are going to 693 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: come back. What are you how are you going to 694 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: slow them down? 695 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 6: I think you know, well, first off, we got home 696 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 6: field advantage. That's the most important thing. And then obviously, 697 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 6: you know, being being in my high which you know, 698 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 6: Shelby playing here, it's hard when you're coming especially from 699 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 6: the East coast, and you know, quick turnaround, and then 700 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 6: obviously you know, just up tempo, try to run the 701 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: ball as much as you can sustain the sustain the run, 702 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 6: sustain our drives and continue to play up temple to 703 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 6: keep them on the field, you know, song. 704 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: As we keep them on. 705 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 6: The field and keep number seventeen off the field, we're 706 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 6: going to give ourselves the best champion to win. 707 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I like what your quarterback Bonick said a minute ago 708 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: talking about starting fast. You know, for you guys, as 709 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: you've got experienced a whole season of football, now what 710 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: does that mean to you? 711 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 6: We got to start fast. You know, obviously we got 712 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 6: we got to put points on the scoreboard. You know, 713 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 6: we can't just go in the red zone and kick 714 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 6: field goals, you know, field goals you know in the playoffs. 715 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean they can win games at 716 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 6: the very end, but they're not going to you know, 717 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 6: win games, especially the big games against you know, the best, 718 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 6: and you know, when you want to be the best, 719 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 6: you got to take down the best. And that's our 720 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 6: whole model this week. And we got to sustain our drives. 721 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 6: I mean that's the most important thing. Make sure that 722 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 6: we're you know, we're not third and ten. We're third 723 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 6: and five or third and two and and we're getting 724 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 6: those first hands, and we're moving those hands, and we're 725 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 6: keeping that defense on the field and making them stuck in. 726 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, really, that's our ultimate goal, is 727 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 6: you know, go on those long drives and put up 728 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 6: points and wear them out, and when we get in 729 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, we know exactly where we want them 730 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 6: and that's our ultimate goals to try to get them 731 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter, Run as many places as we 732 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 6: can in the first half, get as many points as 733 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: we possible, you know, punch it in it, and then 734 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 6: obviously where I'm out in the fourth quarter. 735 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 5: Garrett last, I mean, you guys played these guys last 736 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 5: year in Buffalo, turns into a game that the Bills 737 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 5: got control of and they win at thirty one to seven. 738 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 5: Is there anything or are there things, even though it's 739 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: a different year that you can take from that game 740 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 5: in Buffalo, some of the guys are the same. I 741 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 5: don't know about schematics, but are there a couple of things, 742 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 5: if any, that you can take from that experience and 743 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: utilize to your benefit on Saturday? 744 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think one of the things we're not scared. 745 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 6: I mean, like we just taste the playoffs last year. 746 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 6: I mean, be honest, we had to win a you know, 747 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 6: against a bunch of you know, second string, third string, 748 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: fourth string guys that that that the two sad to 749 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 6: even you know, clinch the seventh seeds. And then we 750 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 6: went up. We went down to Buffalo. We went out 751 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 6: to Buffalo and got our butts kick. To be honest 752 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 6: with you, you know, scored that first start time. Everything 753 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 6: so good and then everything so apart. But you know, 754 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 6: we know, we know what our goal was, and that 755 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 6: was to get home till the fans. That was to 756 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 6: get the number one seed, win our division gets the 757 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 6: number one seed. That's what we did. And I think 758 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: it just speaks volume with a type of players that 759 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 6: we have in the building, be able to to go 760 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 6: out and to do the things that we love to do. 761 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 6: And you know, obviously you know, sustaining drives, controlling the 762 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 6: ball and doing all those things. But you know, Bill's 763 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 6: they're a different team. Obviously, they have the same offensive playmakers. 764 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: They have one of the best quarterbacks in football. Everyone 765 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 6: knows that what he's capable of doing. They just played 766 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 6: a very physical game in Jacksonville, you know, and they're 767 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 6: coming against another physical team of the Denver Broncos of 768 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 6: where we are. We're a very physical team and going 769 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 6: to punch you in the mouth and wear you out. 770 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 6: I mean, that's our ultimate goal. And so this seems different. 771 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 6: You know, they're not as big and song like they 772 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 6: were last year up front. You know, obviously they lost 773 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 6: some guys in free agency and things of that, and 774 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 6: you know, we got to take advantage of those opportunities 775 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 6: when we can, when we can expose them, and obviously 776 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 6: there's holes in their defense that we can attack. You 777 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 6: saw what Jacksonville can do. Obviously. You know, we have 778 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 6: some things up ourselves that we're going to do to 779 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 6: wear them out and to keep them on the field, 780 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 6: and you know, we got to sustain those things. And 781 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 6: I think that's just running the ball, making sure we're 782 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 6: running the ball, changing up our personnel, and doing the 783 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 6: little thing so that we can disguise ourselves to go 784 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 6: down there and score points in the red zone. 785 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: If I believe, if I if I'm correct here, the 786 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: Broncos lead the NFL in fourteen plus play drives. What 787 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 3: goes Garrett? What goes into that that mindset of breaking 788 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: the team down drive after drive after drive? As an 789 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 3: old lineman, what goes into that mindset of these long drives. 790 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's just that dog mentality, Shelby, you 791 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 6: know what I mean, It's just that mentality. It was like, 792 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 6: you know what, We're gonna punch you in the mouth. 793 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 6: We're gonna keep you on this field. We're gonna keep 794 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 6: the change moving. We're gonna we're gonna pick up those 795 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 6: third downs. You know, you bring zero, you bring the 796 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 6: you bring saw, you bring wolf, you bring these different blitzs. 797 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 6: We're gonna pick them up and we're gonna punch you 798 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 6: in the mouth and we're gonna keep you on the 799 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 6: field and make you suck win. And you know that's 800 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 6: our ultimate goal is to go on these long drives. 801 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 6: Were out this defense, and you know that's just who 802 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 6: we all, That's who we've been all year. You know. 803 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 6: Obviously we invest in our old line for a reason. 804 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 6: We got a lot of dogs up front that can 805 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 6: they can bring the heat and bring that mentality of 806 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 6: like we're gonna take it upon ourselves to win. And 807 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 6: when you do that time and time again, when you 808 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 6: get into the fourth quarter, it wears out our defense 809 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 6: and we beat them up, you know, physically and mentally. 810 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 6: And then when it's those French time moments that we're 811 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 6: not afraid of it all because we practice those situations, 812 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 6: stay in and day out. We know exactly what we 813 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 6: need to do to win the game. And then we're 814 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 6: gonna grind it out and we're gonna do what we 815 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 6: need to do to keep off their best playmakers off 816 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 6: the field and keep them on the sideline as we 817 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 6: keep marching up and down the field and scoring points. 818 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 2: I love that dark last one. I have four. 819 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: We always appreciate the time. So we were talking about 820 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier, and again it's acknowledge that 821 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills are a good team. 822 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: I think we all know that. 823 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: But you guys, being the one seed and being a 824 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: home underdog, how does that tend to be discussed if 825 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: at all around the building. 826 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 6: I think we've been them the dog all the year, 827 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 6: to be honest with you, I mean that's when nobody. 828 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 6: Nobody counts us winning. Nobody thought we were going to 829 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 6: win the one seed. Nobody thought we were going to 830 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 6: win fourteen games. Everyone things Bonates is overrated, everyone thinks 831 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 6: are all line is if we can't run the ball. 832 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 6: I mean, listen, fourteen and three is fourteen and three, 833 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 6: you can't take away. It doesn't matter how you win, 834 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 6: and you win, winning in this league is hard. So 835 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 6: let them believe what they want, and we just continue 836 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 6: to prove people wrong. And you know, thank you for 837 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 6: giving us that fire to you know, freaking light up, 838 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 6: light up a fire to continue to burn us and 839 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 6: let us just where we can go out there and 840 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: be maniacs. I mean, that's really what it is. And 841 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 6: so if you want to doubt us and put us 842 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 6: down and don't believe in us, then we'll show you 843 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 6: what we're capable of doing. 844 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 3: Hey, Garrett, last thing from me. I just want to 845 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: tell you how proud I am with you brother, from 846 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: the way your career started in Denver, with every you know, 847 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 3: the booze, the holding, the becoming them all pro congratulations. 848 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: I couldn't be happier for you. 849 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, brother. You know I love you, 850 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 6: family for life. 851 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: That's good stuff. 852 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: Garrett. 853 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 6: You know you have, you know you have, you know 854 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 6: you have a future in the radio, so you got 855 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 6: to keep it going. 856 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 857 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: My guy. 858 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Garrett, you're the best. We really appreciate 859 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: the best of luck on Saturday, man, Thank you. 860 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate you guys. 861 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: Thanks all nice. 862 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: Garrett Bowles really good stuff there. 863 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: Garat Bulls and Carrie Sports is presented by Kodiak Building 864 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: partners in the Kodiak Foundation, together creating meaningful change with 865 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: seventy two to charity is Kodiak Foundation doing seventy two 866 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: dollars for every denver off defensive points to number seventy 867 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: twos GB three Foundation making a difference for children, families 868 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: and veterans in our communities. 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