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Speaker 2: All Right, boys and girls, a big Tuesday rolls on

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Speaker 2: baron our buddy from the San Jose Mercury News, Mayo

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Speaker 2: May has a lot happened since we spoke to this

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Speaker 2: guy last week, John Wilner joining us on the radio

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Speaker 2: show Johnny, how are you man?

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Speaker 3: That feels like two years ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: So you were all with us at five o'clock, right

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Speaker 2: Dick last Tuesday, and the demon Williams story with him

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Speaker 2: posting he was going to transfer came out right around

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Speaker 2: five point forty five six about an hour after you

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Speaker 2: on the air, Demant Williams has put his name, well,

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Speaker 2: he tried to put his name in the portal, and

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Speaker 4: Announced he's staying at Washington.

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Speaker 2: So why don't we just first of all, get your

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Speaker 5: I mean, incredible twist of events, multiple twists and turns, right,

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Speaker 5: I was, you know, I first of all, the original decision.

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Speaker 5: He clearly got terrible advice. It was bad business. But

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Speaker 5: the thing that actually struck me and I had the

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Speaker 5: timing of his announcement last Tuesday during the memorial service

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Speaker 5: where his whole his coaching staff, his whole team was there.

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Speaker 5: In fact, the football team was there like twenty minutes

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Speaker 5: early and dressed out. Good night, close coaches, there are

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Speaker 5: all that stuff, And right before the thing starts, he

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Speaker 5: news on social Just terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 6: John did the Husky save college football from additional mass

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Speaker 6: chaos by holding firm to this contract.

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Speaker 5: Well, so that's an interesting topic, I mean, one of

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Speaker 5: many interesting topics in this whole thing and has certainly

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Speaker 5: has the greatest national implications. Washington's decision too, Like I'm

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Speaker 5: viewing it that it was Jedfish's decision to you know,

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Speaker 5: bring him back. It was Pat Chun's decision to stand

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Speaker 5: ground legally and force Williams to be beholden to the

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Speaker 5: They did it. I think it was very smart. The

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Speaker 5: the buyouts, I think did save college football in a

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Speaker 5: So Washington and the Big Ten actually did the whole

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, John Wilners with us and John, there's a

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Speaker 5: Well, I have to have me talked to a few people.

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Speaker 5: And that gets back to the legal framework the Big

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Speaker 2: Well, John Wilner's with us and John, I mean this

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Speaker 2: But are you are you hearing that it was his

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Speaker 5: I think it was his parents and a few other

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Speaker 5: He's not innocent in all this, but he's also I

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Speaker 6: Take us through the forty eight hours between when he

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Speaker 6: Did do you think Petity called Sanky and said, listen,

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Speaker 5: Well, I can't prove it. I don't know for sure,

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Speaker 5: Petiti was there in Seattle for the memorial service, right,

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Speaker 5: he was there with Fish and Pat Chung, and the

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Speaker 5: Everybody knew what it would lead to. Now, it is

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Speaker 5: nor there's the Big twelve or ACCI two. The Big

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Speaker 5: Petiti and Sankee, who have to work closely together on

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Speaker 5: Sank had a lot on the line. He has staked

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Speaker 5: I have no doubt he stepped in on their end

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Speaker 2: Well, John Wilner again, as with us, as he is

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Speaker 2: every Tuesday. Courtesy is simply Seattle dot Com and John,

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe you're a little more forgiving than some

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Speaker 2: of cures a lot of ills, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, how does this look on paper now,

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Speaker 5: You know, I understand how Washington fans feel, but I

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Speaker 5: The fans should forgive him. Now, we don't know if

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Speaker 5: because you know, when things get tough next October, next November,

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Speaker 6: John Friday Night was glorious fifty six to twenty two.

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Speaker 8: The last two years in the College full of playoffs.

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Speaker 8: He has been embarrassed the last two years in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the first half scores against Ohio State

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Speaker 4: Fifteen, correct, Yep, that's right.

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Speaker 5: And so the thing that strikes me is one, you know,

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Speaker 5: also think that, you know, there's something not quite right.

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Speaker 5: It's not just that they got blown out in the

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Speaker 5: first half of those two Gigantic games. It's that those

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Speaker 5: were both rematches of games that were competitive. Oregon beat

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Speaker 5: Ohio State, two months later they get wiped off the field.

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Speaker 5: Oregon played Indiana to a pretty close game this past

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Speaker 5: That to me is what stands out is it's it

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Speaker 5: shouldn't happen because Deducts have already proved they can play

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Speaker 5: with him. So what changes is preparation time, steak, spotlight, pressure,

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Speaker 5: knowledge of the other team's tendencies and playbooks. And Oregon

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Speaker 5: got wiped out twice, and so I kind of feel

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Speaker 5: like Landing needs to do I don't know soul searching

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Speaker 5: is the right word, but some serious self scouting about

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Speaker 2: Well, now we're waiting on the Dante More decision with Oregon.

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Speaker 2: In meantime, they got Dylan Rayola from Nebraska. So tell

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Speaker 5: They do, And that's a good question, Dick for why

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Speaker 4: But people keep.

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Speaker 2: Telling me on social media this is the greatest coaching

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Speaker 5: Don't make mistakes and they don't their effort is relentless

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Speaker 6: So are they going to finish the season perfect? And

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Speaker 5: You know I'm gonna pick the Hurricanes. That's that's a

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Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I think your point about

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Speaker 2: So good for him, all right, John, great stuff. We

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Speaker 8: A five buddy, Thanks John, Thanks a lot, guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, John Wilner with us on the radio program.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to get to still. Kevin Harlan

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Speaker 2: coming up six twenty tonight, Lane Lambert coach of the

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Speaker 4: On a busy Tuesdays, go back to the Hawks.

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Speaker 2: We've got a pretty big game on Saturday, Big Man

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Speaker 2: five o'clock nine or Seahawks. We'll talk about it next

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Speaker 7: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now

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Speaker 7: back to Softi and Dick on your home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 7: Kracking and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 9: IF Clint does get hired, what kind of coach would

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Speaker 9: that team be getting. Yeah, Clint's just the worst coach ever.

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Speaker 9: Don't hire him. No, he's unbelievable. Dude, all right, this

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Speaker 2: He said Clint Kubiak sucks as a head coach and

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's why there's only a small handful of great

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Speaker 2: I think what he's done with the Seahawk running game

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to envision that I get as

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Speaker 4: and then.

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Speaker 6: You think Kubiak would want to be in front of

438
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Speaker 6: the microphone multiple times a week.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he does okay in front of

441
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Speaker 2: the media, but he's not engaging beyond belief, right, He's

442
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Speaker 2: not dynamic when it comes to the press. You don't

443
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Speaker 2: need to be dynamic, by the way, to be a

444
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Speaker 2: great head coach. Just look at Mike McDonald. I mean

445
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, who we love and he's done a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of.

447
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Speaker 8: Boring, and actually he is boring command.

448
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Speaker 2: Though he does have command. Yes, he's got that presence

449
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Speaker 2: about him. But I also think a large reason why

450
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Speaker 2: we feel like he's got that presence is because he's

451
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Speaker 2: fourteen and three if he was saying yes, if he

452
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Speaker 2: was six and eleven running around being boring with the media,

453
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Speaker 2: we'd be getting on him for being boring with the media.

454
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Speaker 2: We'd say the team stinks and he's boring as hell. Honestly,

455
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: we'd be saying those things. So there's different ways to

456
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Speaker 2: get there. Like, can you imagine two polar opposite head

457
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Speaker 2: coaches in their style and personality than Mike Holmgrin and

458
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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll and the way they did things and they both.

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Speaker 6: Work, right, Yes, clearly, yes, they both worked. And you know,

460
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Speaker 6: guy like Mike Tomlin works. I mean, there's there's a

461
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Speaker 6: lot of Mike McDonald Mike Tomlin, two very different ways

462
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Speaker 6: of going about things. Mike Tomlin is fantastic in front

463
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Speaker 6: of the media. But you know what, Mike McDonald wins

464
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Speaker 6: more games.

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Speaker 2: That's right, one hundred percent because his system is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I mean, let me ask you

467
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Speaker 2: these guys, is Clint Kubiak showing you anything offensively that

468
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Speaker 2: is like massively unique where you look around the rest

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Speaker 2: of the elephant, go God.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's doing that. No, that's crazy. I've never seen that before.

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Speaker 6: And what's frustrating about that. And even though we're fourteen and.

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Speaker 2: Three and you have a great offense with the best

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Speaker 2: point differential in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 6: Is that you have literally sat here in that chair

475
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Speaker 6: with me the last eight years and have said the

476
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Speaker 6: exact same thing about every single offensive coordinator we.

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Speaker 4: Had for the same year. Right, right, right, You've been.

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Speaker 8: Right what offensive coordinator?

479
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Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: None of them have been unique or special nothing. But

481
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Speaker 2: there's things that Mike McDonald does that are unique. There's

482
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Speaker 2: things that Pete Carroll did on defense that were unique,

483
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Speaker 2: for sure, But there's nothing about Clint Kubiak that's amazing.

484
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Speaker 2: And look, maybe he just knows how to put the

485
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Speaker 2: right guys in the right spot. Maybe this you know,

486
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: twelve and thirteen personnel they use with these tight ends

487
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Speaker 2: when they're supposed to run, but they throw and Jackson

488
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Speaker 2: spent the jig was out there by himself and somehow

489
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Speaker 2: finds a way to get open right when they don't

490
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Speaker 2: have a lot of help around him. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a reason why they traded for Rashid Shihd for crying

492
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Speaker 2: out loud, So dude, I don't know, I mean, I

493
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Speaker 2: just think it kind of It almost comes across as

494
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Speaker 2: an insult when people say that you don't have the

495
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Speaker 2: temperament or the personality to be a head coach.

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Speaker 4: But some people are just built that way.

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Speaker 2: Some people are not built to be in front of

498
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Speaker 2: the media every single day. They're not built to be

499
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Speaker 2: a guy that fires up a locker room or lead

500
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Speaker 2: fifty five guys on a Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: They're built to sit.

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Speaker 2: In a lab behind the screen, push buttons and create

503
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Speaker 2: things that the head coach can use to win a

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Speaker 2: football game. And that's fine. He might be a genius,

505
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Speaker 2: but he might not be ahead coach.

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Speaker 6: Would you believe that Kubiak has done a good job

507
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Speaker 6: calling plays that fit his offense. Yeah, for sure, I

508
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Speaker 6: think so. I think much more so than Grubb did

509
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Speaker 6: last year.

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Speaker 2: I think you're just being difficult if you're not giving

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Speaker 2: Clinton Kubiak credit for what's going on this year. Okay,

512
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Speaker 2: but there's a difference between giving an offensive coordinator credit

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Speaker 2: and then making that guy a head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Sight, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Would you give Steve Spagnola credit for all those years

516
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Speaker 2: of great defense in Kansas City? Of course, you would

517
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Speaker 2: you want him as your head coach. No you don't, No,

518
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Speaker 2: you don't. Come on, guys, I mean, this is just

519
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Speaker 2: the way people are built.

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Speaker 11: I think that also we need to kind of look

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Speaker 11: at some individual growth, like you can't I think, look

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Speaker 11: at Jsn's year and say that's all just JSN and Sam.

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Speaker 11: Like clearly Kubiak, the person running the offense has some

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Speaker 11: such AJ Barner.

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Speaker 4: Look at how a J.

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Speaker 12: Barner has exploded into a complete tight end, maybe a

527
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Speaker 12: top ten tight end in the NFL. The reason for that,

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Speaker 12: you got to look a little bit to Clint Kobe.

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Speaker 12: You can kind of point summonates twelve touchdowns this year,

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Speaker 12: right his explosion. You can kind of go down the

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Speaker 12: list and look at individual big years and.

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Speaker 4: Say, yeah, they don't. They don't have that without one too.

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Speaker 6: Softy's point as well, like when when you're an offense

534
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Speaker 6: that gets better over the course of the year, like

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Speaker 6: the run. Now, the passing game hasn't gotten better, but

536
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Speaker 6: the running game certainly has gotten better over.

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Speaker 8: The last month and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to give him credit for it. I

539
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Speaker 2: just again, I can feel it. I can sense that

540
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Speaker 2: there's people tuning in going, well, you're just saying those

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Speaker 2: things because you don't want Clint Kubiak to leave. Well,

542
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Speaker 2: we again, we were talking about this with him from

543
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Speaker 2: the day he was hired, that he's just kind of

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Speaker 2: a different cat. You know, he's got a different kind

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Speaker 2: of a personality and that actually might be a great

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Speaker 2: thing for the Hawks because it might kind of keep

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Speaker 2: him here. Honestly, and if he's here for two or

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Speaker 2: three years.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's some continent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have not.

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Speaker 2: Had well, we haven't had a coordinator stay for longer

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Speaker 2: than a couple of seasons, was it? Waldron was here

553
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Speaker 2: for two years? And Waldron was boring as a box

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Speaker 2: of bricks? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: That guy terrible?

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Speaker 2: Just I mean I went on with Chicago when they

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Speaker 2: I was like, what are you doing? Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on right, I mean, Waldron was awful. Shoty was okay.

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Speaker 2: Shot he was okay.

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Speaker 8: It was okay with the camera.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, But you know what, you got to find

562
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Speaker 2: the right fit and this has been the right fit.

563
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Speaker 2: And maybe it's because they let McDonald do the hiring.

564
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. But if he gets a job,

565
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: and you know what, sooner or later, if the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: keep winning and this offense keeps doing what it's doing,

567
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Speaker 2: it's not going to matter. He's going to get a job.

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Speaker 2: There's just too many open jobs in the NFL. There's

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Speaker 2: too few candidates out there that people are in love with.

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Speaker 2: He's going to eventually get a job with somebody if

571
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Speaker 2: this keeps up. May not be this year, but he's

572
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Speaker 2: gonna get a job eventually. Bevill never did, never did,

573
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Speaker 2: never did.

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Speaker 8: And he was to win to back to back Super

575
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Speaker 8: Bowls in one one he never.

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Speaker 4: Got a job.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you can almost give the offensive

578
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Speaker 2: coordinator more credit for what's happening now than you could

579
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Speaker 2: Darryl Bevell for that year because they had Marshawn Lynch

580
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Speaker 2: just pounding people. They were blowing people up. This is

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Speaker 2: a football team that, as Jackson said, I mean they've

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Speaker 2: developed some guys.

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Speaker 11: I mean right, I would almost gosh, am I gonna

584
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Speaker 11: say this. I think I'm going to say this. I

585
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Speaker 11: think this offense is better than the twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 6: It might be off really really struggled for October and

587
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Speaker 6: then it exploded at times.

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Speaker 4: But I think this offense is more complete.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and mean, well they got the look they they're

590
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Speaker 2: they're number one of the NFL and point differential. That's

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Speaker 2: not just because of the Defense Act. That's not just

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Speaker 2: because of the defense. All right, we're gonna break.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We got a little mini kind of oppon an audio

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Speaker 2: recap that's got nothing to do with the Seahawks. Does

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Speaker 2: anybody want to hear for just a quick second what

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Speaker 2: the Packers meltdown sounded like on Packer Radio with that Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Guy you requested to come on to get ready for

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Speaker 8: the Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Greeny gave this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Dick, if I came to you at

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Speaker 2: half times, said the Packers are up twenty one to three.

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Speaker 4: Who would you think we're playing next week?

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Speaker 8: Playing the back?

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. We're gonna break next on ninety

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Speaker 4: three three KJARFM.

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Speaker 7: From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now

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Speaker 7: back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 7: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio, ninety three point

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Speaker 7: three KJR FM.

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Speaker 2: All right, boys and goes here we go and I'm

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Speaker 2: busy Tuesday night right here on ninety.

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Speaker 4: Three three KJARFM. You're just tuning in right now.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Harlan be with us around six twenty lane Lambert's

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Kraken coming off there win last night,

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Speaker 2: they fall down to nothing, no problem.

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Speaker 4: They went four two with the Rangers at MSG.

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Speaker 2: Mike Betton realizing a childhood dream of calling an NHL

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Speaker 2: game at the famed Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 4: It's cool last night.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Lane Lambert coming up about six

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Speaker 2: forty five.

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Speaker 4: But got a hold of some audio here on the

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Speaker 4: radio show.

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Speaker 2: If you watch the Packers Bears on Saturday, you know

626
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Speaker 2: that the Packers basically cooped it against Chicago.

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Speaker 4: On Saturday night. They're up twenty one to three and.

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Speaker 2: The game's over come on right, Like, if you're a

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Speaker 2: Packer faner, you kid, we gave up twenty five fourth

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Speaker 2: quarter points, nineteen to seven fourth quarter against the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: and the NFC championship, twenty one to three against the

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Speaker 2: Bears in the NFC first round game and they blow

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Speaker 2: both of them, and that is just unbelievable for Packer fans.

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Speaker 2: But we got some audio Wayne Larravie and Larry Mccaerron

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Speaker 2: from the Packers Radio Network on one A one point

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Speaker 2: one WIXX in Green Bay. Some key plays down the

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Speaker 2: stretch that went against green Bay, and we thought we'd

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Speaker 2: enjoy a little shaden freda right and listen in to

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Speaker 2: what that collapse sounded like on Packer Radio in green Bay.

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Speaker 4: Check it out for eighteen to.

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Speaker 10: Go in this game, it is an eternity once again,

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Speaker 10: the Packers will rely on their offense, control the football,

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Speaker 10: get a score. So on comes the field goal unit,

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Speaker 10: Brandon mcmannus, and this will be a forty say it again,

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Speaker 10: not been a good night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah sins That goes without saying.

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Speaker 10: This will be forty four yard field goal to ten

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Speaker 10: off the left tash mark to give the Packers a

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Speaker 10: six point lead. Snap placement, here's the kick. It so

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Speaker 10: the ut frights and it's off the right, up right

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Speaker 10: in complete.

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Speaker 4: O man in and leave the right up right.

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Speaker 10: And no good. We just just threw gass arena on

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Speaker 10: the fire. This is absolutely unbelievable. And now it's up

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Speaker 10: to the beliegueer green Bay defense. Caleb Williams in the

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Speaker 10: shotgun with a cent back to his left. He takes

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Speaker 10: the snap, he looks, he pumped fakes once. Now lost it.

658
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: Let's sign dj Mores got a touchdown, oh man, and.

659
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 10: The Bears take the lead with a minute forty three.

660
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: To go when he was exst a little work for

661
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: he was a lots.

662
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 10: Of twenty five yard touchdown pass and the Bears leave

663
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Speaker 10: thirty to twenty seven. No timeouts for Green Bay Packers

664
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Speaker 10: trailing thirty one to twenty seven. Three receivers left, two

665
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 10: to the right, love alone in the shotgun and the

666
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 10: season on the line.

667
00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: Here's the snap.

668
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 10: He bobbles, he picks up, he looks, he's stimos left.

669
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Speaker 10: He still hasn't looking around now waits still looking.

670
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Time has expired. He throws left side.

671
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 10: Of the end zone and it's incomplete, trying.

672
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 4: To get it the golden and the.

673
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 10: Interception was dropped and the Chicago Bears have advanced one

674
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Speaker 10: twenty seven. Another cut rend wrenching loss for the Packers

675
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 10: in Chicago. My goodness, absolute gut wrenching loss, thirty one

676
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 10: twenty seven. The Bears advance.

677
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: So even at twenty seven to sixteen with six thirty

678
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: six to go in the fourth quarter, the Packers, according

679
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: to the stupid win probability thing that you like to

680
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: tinker on round with on the internet, had a ninety

681
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: five percent chance to win the game with six and

682
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: a half minutes to go, in the game. So for

683
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Speaker 2: how much the Packer would you say that the Packers

684
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: and Bears is one of the most heated rivalries in

685
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: the NFL. It's the longest, could be the most heated

686
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: run like the most like what would be number one

687
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Cowboys Eagles?

688
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: Maybe?

689
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 8: I think I think Raven Stealers for the last ten Pittsburgh.

690
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, I guess my point is this would

691
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: this be like us pissing away a twenty one to

692
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: three lead to Oregon if you're if you're a Packer fan,

693
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: that's how they feel. So it's not just that they

694
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: lost this game, but who they lost to two and

695
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: how they lost And they.

696
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: Even had an incomplete field goal r That was interesting.

697
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 6: I've never heard of an incomplete field goal before.

698
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think Wayne Learning. I think he was just

699
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: getting a little bit p o at his partner there.

700
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: He's like, what huh, huh, what huh? I don't know, man,

701
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: it's just painful. But we know that they've they've experienced worse.

702
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Man nineteen seven against the Hawks in the NFC Championship

703
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: with a chance of the Super Bowl. You lead a

704
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: game like that with what three minutes to go in

705
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: the game that is a bigger choke job than this one.

706
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

707
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 6: It's like we've been We were talking earlier in the

708
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: show about how this if the Seahawks were to lose

709
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 6: this week, it'd be the worst I said, it would

710
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 6: be the worst playoff loss in Seahawks his history, right,

711
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 6: the Packers have had. I mean these two losses the

712
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 6: Seahawks in the NFC Championship game at twenty fourteen and

713
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: this one there are a thousand times worse than any

714
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: Seahawks loss in the playoffs as far as being ahead

715
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 6: in the game as much as they were.

716
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 8: And in a favorite in the game. I mean, my gosh.

717
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: No no doubt.

718
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just it's kind of I don't know,

719
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: maybe unfair, but they're kind of starting to get a

720
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: label as a little bit of a choking franchise some

721
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: of these games that they've just completely barfed up.

722
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: I mean it's unbelievable.

723
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Like and by the way, not only did they lose,

724
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: but they've lost with a quarterback in Jordan Love that's

725
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: making fifty million dollars a year against the guy in

726
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: year two.

727
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: Of the NFL, and Jordan Love was nails for the

728
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 6: first two and a half quarters of that game, and.

729
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: He's stunk after that. I mean, I wasn't afraid of

730
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: Jordan Love at all. Right, but my god, I mean,

731
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: not just lose to Chicago, but you blow a twenty

732
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: one to three lead and lose to a second year

733
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: guy with a dude making fifty freaking million? Are you

734
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: kidding me? Unbelievable? So I don't know, man, I just

735
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: I kind of felt bad from a little bit, but

736
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: then I realized that whatever the hell with him, screw them.

737
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna break.

738
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739
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741
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,879
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742
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, we are back here on

743
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: a Tuesday night right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.

744
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: Lot's going on, obviously, but hey, how about the Red

745
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: Hawk kracking baby twenty one, fifteen and eight, nine to

746
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: one and two and their last twelve and thank god

747
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: last week got the point dick against Minnesota.

748
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 8: I'm glad you're doing this interview with me because that

749
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 8: means we had a good week.

750
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm off the hook man, the head coach of the

751
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 2: Kraken after it come from behind win against the Rangers

752
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden last night, joining us right now

753
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: on the radio show Coach.

754
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: Good evening.

755
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: How are you, hey, guys? Good?

756
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: We're good. So let's talk about last night's game.

757
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: Man, I'm in Obviously I'd love to go out and

758
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: just pound people six to nothing every night, but is

759
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: there something to be gained a little bit extra? You

760
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: think when you fall behind two nothing on the road

761
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: four consecutive goals, come back and win four to two.

762
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: How much does a win like that resonate in your

763
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: locker room? Man?

764
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: I think it just shows resilience and you know, and

765
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: it builds towards I mean, you're not always going to

766
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: have a great start, even though you want to have

767
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: a great start, but you're not always gonna have a

768
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: great start, So you know, making sure that you know

769
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: you've got some confidence heading into that that next time

770
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: when that happens, which better not be tomorrow night in

771
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: New Jersey, but you know, you you do build confidence

772
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: from that, that's for sure.

773
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 8: What got it turned around in the second period?

774
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: Was it a was it a.

775
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 6: Fabulous Lane Lambert speech at the end of the first

776
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 6: period intermission or was it something that you saw on

777
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 6: the ice in the second.

778
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: Well, it was a weird game because really we had

779
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: some glorious chances to score in the first period too.

780
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 3: We had a couple two on ones, we had a breakaway,

781
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: so it was kind of like trade chances, and we

782
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: don't do well when we trade chances, so we we

783
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: tightened it up defensively. I think we gave him ten

784
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: shots on goal in the last forty minutes, so against

785
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: that hockey team in that building, I think that was

786
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: a pretty good last forty.

787
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, coach, you mentioned the starts, and I know we've

788
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: talked about this before. You're probably getting sick and tired

789
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: of numbskulls like us in the media badgering you about it.

790
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: But talk about the slow start and kind of what

791
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: you guys are doing behind the scenes to maybe address that,

792
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: to fix that little bit.

793
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we've had a couple, but we've had

794
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: some pretty good ones too, Like we you know, we're

795
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: up three us in there a couple of weeks ago

796
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: and early on, and but it just does show you that,

797
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: you know, you have to be ready to go. And

798
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: now for for my money, I thought that, you know,

799
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: both the goals they scored, I thought they were a

800
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: little bit one was a little lucky. And then again,

801
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: you know, we didn't capitalize in our chances. So it

802
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: looks maybe a little worse than it does, guys, but

803
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 3: give our team credit for coming back.

804
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 6: Star at Berkeley Cat and getting it done. I mean,

805
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: the narrative for so long was hey, when's he going

806
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 6: to get his first goal? And now the narrative is

807
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 6: when is he not going to score a goal at what?

808
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: What is he?

809
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 8: What is he doing right now? Why is he scoring

810
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 8: in bunches?

811
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Speaker 3: Well, I just think that, you know, eventually as a

812
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: young player, once you get one, you start to gain

813
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: a little bit in confidence, certainly when you're a when

814
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: you're a player who's not used to having droughts like that,

815
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, it becomes a little bit of a mental challenge.

816
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: It's gets a different sort of feeling or a different animal,

817
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: so to speak. And I just felt like once you

818
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: got over the hump that he would probably you know,

819
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 3: start scoring a little bit more. And he has well.

820
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Cracking head coach Wayne Lambert with US boys have a

821
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: night off tonight and then New Jersey tomorrow. How do

822
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: you spend a night off in the in the New

823
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: York metropolitan area. Do the guys get to go hit

824
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: Little Italy? You go maybe over to Gallagher's or Keynes

825
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: and get yourself a nice steak. What's what's tonight like

826
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: for you guys?

827
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it varies for different guys. Certainly,

828
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: there's the options. There's so many options for restaurants and

829
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: things like that in the city that you know, it's

830
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: a pretty fun place to be, you know, and and

831
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I actually we've been here

832
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: for a couple of days already. I went to a

833
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: Broadway show before the Ranger game the night before the

834
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Ranger game. So you just do whatever you feel you

835
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: know you can do, and make sure you're in bed

836
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: and you get plentying your rest.

837
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 8: What showd you see?

838
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: I went to The Great Gatsby, But when I coached

839
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: with the Islanders here I went to probably about fifteen

840
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: of them just take the train out from Long Island.

841
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, this was one we hadn't seen before, so

842
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: we went to it.

843
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Do you you just get camped for that? You just

844
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: tell them who you are, and they leave you a

845
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: pair of tickets because you're a big deal.

846
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: Is that how that works?

847
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 8: Not a chat?

848
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, Lane Lambert tracking coaches with us and Lane. We

849
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: saw Brandon montur on the ice pregame yesterday with a

850
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: red note contact Jersey's been out since what the middle

851
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: of December? With that the bust at hand. How close

852
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: is Brandon to getting back on the ice for you?

853
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting close. He he was in practice again today.

854
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: Here we're just getting on the buck to head back

855
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: from New Jersey to Manhattan to our hotel and uh,

856
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: you know he's out there and he's looking really good,

857
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: so you know, it's it's it is getting close for us.

858
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: We'll see you know how long that timeframe is going

859
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: to be, but it's close, sir.

860
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: And when's the at e t A on Matt Murray

861
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 6: And when he does come back, how do you plan

862
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: to rotate three goalies?

863
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: Well, we'll just deal with that when we when we do, uh,

864
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: and when he does again, he's you know, he's getting closer.

865
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: But it's it's a it's a lower body situation and

866
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: as a goalie, it's a little bit different than just

867
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: a regular skater. So uh, you know, there's some situations

868
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: where maybe it's not quite completely comfortable. So but at

869
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: the end of the day, we'll we'll deal with that

870
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: once once he's ready, once he's ready to come.

871
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: Well, coach, I'm no genius.

872
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: I've been doing this now for about thirty two years,

873
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: and i can sense when a guy has to run.

874
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: And I'm sensing in the tone of your voice that

875
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: you are now in a spot where you can't talk

876
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: much anymore. By the way, right, did I read that right?

877
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: You read me like a book by Hey.

878
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: Listen, go get him tomorrow against the Devils. Appreciate this.

879
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 2: Best of luck and we're talking.

880
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: A week coach, all right, thanks guys.

881
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: You bet Lane Lambert with us, the coach of the crack.

882
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: And when the volume drops down a couple of notches,

883
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: you know the guy has reached the back of the

884
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: bus and he's got to take off.

885
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: So we'll let Lane Lambert go.

886
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: But they're on a streak, Man, nine to one and

887
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: two in their last twelve games at the Devils tomorrow

888
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 2: and that'll be it for us.

889
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: A great way to wrap it up.

890
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: Man, tomorrow, we're gonna be on the air again for

891
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: Ian at two o'clock. Because Ian apparently again needs another

892
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: hour to get ready for his big.

893
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: TV show, Petros will join us.

894
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: Florio will join us tomorrow before the Cracking Devil's pregame

895
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: six thirty face off at four a clock.

896
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: That's it for us. We'll see you tomorrow with three

897
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 4: ninety three three k j r F M. Bye