1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Well, the weekend's here. It's a big weekend. It's a 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: super weekend. I can say it because we carry the 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl on the big one seven hundred double Wela 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: back with ESPN chalks David, bring the paying Purdom with 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Sterling here. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: How are you? How's everything? How geeked up are you? 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is there a bigger time than now when 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: it comes to the business of betting and gambling and sports. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: Well, the Super Bowl attracts more betting interest, number of 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: bets and mount wager than any other single game in 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: the US. So from that standpoint, it's certainly busy. Now, 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: I would say the NCAA tournament that probably rivals it. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: And when you get so many more games with the 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament, it ultimately gets more money wager. When you're 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: talking about one single event, it's the Super Bowl by far. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Of all the money that is spent. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: How much of it is just you know, flat out 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are gonna win, or you know they're gonna lose, 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: or whatever else it happens to go. Maybe they're you know, 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: they're for the Patriots against the Patriots. I mean, is 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: that where the bulk of the money is or is 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: it prop bets? Where does the big bucks end up 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: playing out across the board. 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: It's about fifty to fifty between prop bets and your 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: standard game bets. Standard I think I'm including your points spread, 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: your outright winner money line, and. 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: Probably the over under tootal. 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: So if you put those three things in there, it 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: probably equals about the same amount of all the player props. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: And I think DraftKings told us that they add over 31 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: a fifteen hundred different markets that you could wager on 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, So lots of different. 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: Options, fifteen hundred markets. So there's somebody who is completely 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: living in the dark and unaware what does that mean? 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: So you can bet on anything from the coin flip 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: that decides the opening kickoff, all the way to the 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: over under, on the length of the national anthem, the 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: rendition of the national anthem, and then you go post 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: game all the way to what color of the gatorade 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: is dumped on the winning coach. So you can bet 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: throughout you know, players cross sports. You can bet on, 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, whether Lebron James will score more points than 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: the Patriots in the game or whatever. 44 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: But the waste wager in the different types of wagers 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: are are counts. 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: David bring the pain Purtams from a ESPN chalk with 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Sterling on the big one talking about Super Bowl fifty 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: or sixty. Excuse me, it's the alax. It's here in 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: the Roman numerals. I remember my school times. As you 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: look at this, I mean you kind of go New 52 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: England northeast, I mean the Seattle Northwest. Is there one 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: side of the country or the other that's bringing more 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: money at this point? I mean, can we tell or 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: is it just about smart betting and not about emotion? 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: Well, there is always going to be some Homer emotion. 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: I would think that the East Coast is more slanted 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: to the Patriots in your West coast and Midwest is 59 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: probably more on the Seahawks. How overall, it's almost two 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: to one in favor of the Seahawks. Twice as much 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: money has been wagered on them that has been wagered 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: on the Patriots, So. 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: The Seahawks are getting a lot of money. 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: However, the point spread is kind of holding steady at 65 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: four and a half, so some people might think there's 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: something up with that. 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: What could be up with that? 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: In the circumstance where it ends up sort of staying 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: where it is. I've heard other people say that what 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: does that mean? 71 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: So it's a good question. So what that means is 72 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: the overall amount of money that's been wagered. 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: But so far, even though it's super lopsided on the Seahawks, 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: it hasn't had those influential betters come in, and sportsbooks 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: will want to end up rooting on the same side 76 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: as the professional betters. So you may see a professional 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: better come in and put their bets down and maybe 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: they take the Seahawks, and this later in the week, 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: and then that line all of a sudden jumps, or 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: even if they may take the Patriots, and we discussed 81 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: you know, twice as much money on the Seahawks once 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: the professional gamblers take a position, even though the books 83 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: have more money on Seattle. If the professionals were to 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: take the Patriots, then you might see that line moved 85 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: towards a new England. Maybe a four and a half 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: goes down to four. 87 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: And now you say the professional betters, then there's the 89 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, call it celebrity better kind 90 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: of scenario, although I mean, is he a professional Mattress 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: mac We've talked about often on David Perdin from ESPN 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: Chalk by the way, with Sterling on the Big One. 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: That's a guy in Texas. I think he's in the 94 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Houston area, maybe Dallas area, I don't know which. And 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: he regularly although the last year or two as seemed 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: kind of quiet when it comes to like big bets 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: and Super Bowl. 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, he has a good reason for not being not 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: betting last Super Bowl. He had art surgery and that's recovering. 100 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good reason to stay away. 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good reason. You don't need the extra 102 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: pressure coming out of heart surgery. He was recovering. 103 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: For people that don't know Mattress macat's name is Jim Macklevale. 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: He has a furniture store in Houston. He's kind of 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: a beloved community figure. He's opening up his store to 106 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: people when they've had storms down there and all kinds 107 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: of things. And what he does is he plays his 108 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: big bets and then Rod runs a promotion free giveaway 109 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: for furniture to kind of mitigate his risk on this bet. 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: So this year he placed a two million dollar bet 111 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: on the winner of the AFC, winning the Super Bowl, 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: So that's the Patriots. 113 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: So he's got two million on the Patriots at two 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: to one. 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Anybody that goes in and buys three to four thousand 116 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: dollars worth of furniture at his furniture store, they would 117 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: get a complete refund. If the Patriots win, mattress Mac 118 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: would win his bet right win four million dollars. Anybody 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: that had bought that bought his furniture would get their 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: money back. 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 5: Now he. 122 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: Gets all to keep all that money. 123 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: So with that extra money that maybe that promote, the 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: promotion generated, he kind of mitigates his risk on his bet. 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: Now, I wonder does he buy insurance to go along 126 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: with that. A lot of retailers, corporations, TV radio stations, 127 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: et cetera. When they do promos of some type or another, 128 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: they'll have some way to sort of cushion themselves with 129 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: someone to come in and actuary of some sort kind 130 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: of figures out what's reasonable. Does he buy that or 131 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: is it literally just the actual wager? 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: Do we know? 133 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: So he used to he started doing it with insurance. 134 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: He would hedge his hedge his promotion with insurance. But 135 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: he started to figure out that the betting market offered 136 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: him a better opportunity to kind of mitigate. 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: That risk, so he started doing this. This is his 138 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: fourth or fifth year to bet on this like this 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: and he's had some success. 140 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. 141 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: David Purdain, by the way, from Espanshalk with Sterling on 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: the beg One talking about the Super Bowl sixty he 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: see Hawks Patriots getting on just hours away. Technically, of 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: all the games in all the years, and you've covered 145 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: this for a while, has there been a continual steady 146 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: growth in the amounts of money's wagered. I'm guessing the 147 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: legality of this and making it more accessible has helped 148 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: it along. But can we see you know, just historically 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: people being more engaged, less engaged or otherwise, or is 150 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: it sort of hard to compare now because the dominoes 151 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: have fallen from one market to another. 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, it's difficult if you go back and past or 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: looking for some kind of comparison because pre twenty eighteen, 154 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: only Nevada had sports betting right, so you could see 155 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: their numbers, But everybody else that was bet and was 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: using a local bookmaker or an offshore sports book he 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: didn't have good visibility about how much is bet But 158 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: if we look at the legal market, which first started 159 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen and has spread to thirty nine states 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: in the district of Columbia. 161 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: Here, it has steadily grown each year after year after year. 162 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: In fact, twenty twenty five was the most heavily bet 163 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: here ever for New York sports books in New York 164 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: is now the largest betting market in the US. 165 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: So it has continued to grow. 166 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Talking to Dave Partum from ESPN Chalk Sterling on the 167 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Big One about Super Bowl sixty, so we look at 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: this and the number of prop bets, and I did 169 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of research before the show. I know 170 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: it may be hard for you to believe, David, but 171 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I do. It's not just leaning on you, although I 172 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: like to get to your head because you study this 173 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: every which way and more. But the sheer number of 174 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: prop bets has expanded to such a point now, I 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: mean from the rushing side of the football that a 176 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: defense you mentioned, gatorade or whatever power raid, whatever it 177 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: is that they use at any given point in time, 178 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: any of these things sort of surprise you where you 179 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: kind of like man, stupid bets, fun bets. I mean, 180 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: where do you is your head on this? Or can 181 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: you I guess from being above the Fray is the 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: reporter on this to just sort of look at because 183 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: you always talk about not being like a good better 184 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: but you cover it. 185 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. 186 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: I like to say that I write about gambling, but 187 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: I'm not. 188 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: Good at gambling, which is completely true, but I do 189 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: talk to people who are good at it. 190 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: I would say the. 191 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: Kind of the strangest thing and one of the trendy 192 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: bets this year, there's things called mention markets. These are 193 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: on the prediction markets that are kind of trading sports 194 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: picks like stocks and Waggy might have heard of a 195 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: site called Calci and what they are offering are these 196 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: mention markets. And it's on NFL announcers and you're able 197 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: to trade on what terms or what phrases the announcers 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: of the Super Bowl will say. For example, tush push 199 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: is one of the terms that people are trading on, 200 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: and it's like, I believe it's forty percent that he's 201 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: not gonna say it, or sixty percent that he is. 202 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: And you're if you think that the probability of Mike 203 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: Tariko or Chris Collinsworth, who will be calling the Super Bowl, 204 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: will say tush push is greater than sixty percent, well, 205 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: and you're going to buy the yes, and if you 206 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: think it's less, then you're gonna buy the no. So 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: those are the funny things they're doing. And you wouldn't 208 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: believe how much money is wagered on these things. In 209 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: fact that in the AFC and NFC championship games, about 210 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: three point five million dollars were ragered on what announcers 211 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: would say during those games. 212 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: Wow. 213 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just curious, not that I would. I mean, 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I've had people say, hey, well you say this or 215 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: that during the show, please during this time, my wife's 216 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: going to be in the car, can you mention this 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: or that or whatever else? But as an announcer in 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: this and Collin's worth, of course used to work here 219 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: at the Benguin, and you still, you know, a scene 220 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: here or there once in a while. And of course 221 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: he's been doing the NFL stuff forever in a day 222 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: be going back before obviously wearing those Bengal stripes. But 223 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: in a situation like somebody in the booth like that, 224 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: how do they prevent them from getting in on that? 225 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying anybody would do anything the farious 226 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm just I probably want to get in on the action. 227 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get in trouble, but I'm saying, 228 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: come on, you. 229 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Know now, I have not heard of any of the 230 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: NFL announcers mentioning it using it, but in there's earnings 231 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: calls and if people that watch the Grammys on Sunday, 232 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: Trevor Noah, the host, he got to come in from 233 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: commercial break and he said, potato and he looked on 234 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: his phone. Anybody on polymarket or CAUSI these prediction markets. 235 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: You just won because I said potato, So it can 236 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: happen exactly what you're saying. 237 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: I reached out. I did a story on it this week, 238 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: and I reached out to all the. 239 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Networks, including ESPN, and I was trying to say, hey, 240 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: are you guys aware of this? Do you have any 241 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: advice for the announcers, any protocols in place? And nobody 242 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: wanted to talk about it at all, my guests. Doesn't 243 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 3: surprise me because it puts these announcers in kind of 244 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: a tough spot. 245 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: Knowledge yea, if they acknowledge oh. 246 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard about all those, then people are gonna 247 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: be kind of suspicious. 248 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: Did you change your call? Did you manipulate your performance, 249 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: so you could work these terms in and you know 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: it's part of the game. 251 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is. I mean it's not like 252 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: the league's gonna get involved in. What do they care. 253 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: It's not affecting the outcome. It's just language used, words dropped. 254 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to get in on this somehow, don't. 255 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: I just don't. It's very weird. 256 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: David bring the pain Perdam for ESPN Chalk with Sterling 257 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: on the Big One talking about Super Bowl sixty Patriots 258 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: and Seahawks. I want to switch to something else and 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: we'll circle back if we can't, and no time is short, 260 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: but I have to ask because you can almost smell 261 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: freshly cut grass, even though we had new snow in 262 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the last hours in days here and the cold is 263 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: back and not going anywhere anytime soon. But they'll be 264 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: in the desert and then they'll be in Florida soon 265 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: getting tuned up for spring training and opening day. Just 266 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: really what eight weeks away, give or take word is 267 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Guardians. And there was a piece that 268 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: you had talked about this before too, and I saw 269 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: you on socials about it, talking about a manual class. 270 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: I believe is how you pronounced the name. 271 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: He got into a bit of issue with some weird 272 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: alterations of pitches and wagering or something. Can you break 273 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: that down and what that means for the game and 274 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: for him particularly? This is a sad story. 275 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Emanuel Clisse, long time Guardians reliever, great pitcher, yeah, 276 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: really dominant closer. Last summer got put on a nondisciplinary 277 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: league by Major League Baseball because of some suspicious betting 278 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: that was detected. And it wasn't detected on the game 279 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: outcome or anything like that. It was on individual pitches. 280 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: Sportsbooks were offering bets on will a certain pitch be 281 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: a ball or a strike, or will a certain pitch 282 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: be faster or slower than ninety three miles an hour, 283 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: And they started detecting some unusual betting interests like spikes 284 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: and betting on Clissee to throw balls. And it eventually 285 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: got indicted by the FEDS, and they first revealed that 286 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: they there were nine games that they thought had some 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: suspicious pitches involving Clisse. Well, just yesterday there was a 288 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: legal document filed and according to that legal document, the 289 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: government is now accusing Clise of throwing suspicious pitches in 290 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: forty eight games. And that's over twenty six months, so 291 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: about two and a half years. But forty eight games. 292 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: Gosh, that just seemed like a whole bunch more than nine. 293 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: It was kind of alarming. 294 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Well, what does that mean? 295 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: Because the business of the game in Major League Baseball 296 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: can certainly show some type of retribution. Does that become 297 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: a federal crime in a situation like that, or how 298 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: does that play out in a court situation? Since you 299 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: were talking about court papers by out it's serious. 300 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so wire fraud and sports bribery both are 301 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: federal statutes that are charge is involved here in these 302 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: cases such as this, and bribery comes involved. The allegation 303 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: is that Clisse was working with a couple of betters 304 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: and giving them information I might throw a ball to 305 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: start this inning, you know, bet on that and so forth, 306 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: And that's what the allegation, the alleged scheme was. It 307 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: roped in another pitcher to Luis Ortiz, he is part 308 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: of the case. To a former Guardian pitcher, he's facing 309 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: similar allegations. Although it's much fewer games. 310 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: For Louise, not good for the game. 311 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: You want to keep that clean for sure, deb bring 312 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: the paint purdon from ESPN Chalk with Sterling on the 313 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: big one. One more thing here. You may have seen 314 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: some of the opening ceremonies. Maybe you're watching in advance 315 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: since they're already ahead of us in Italy. Anyway, the 316 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: Olympics are on. Is that a big wagering sport globally 317 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: or domestically? How does that play out? Because there's so 318 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: many different you know, athletes and so many different types 319 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: of activities or sports in competition for these medals. 320 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: Historically it is not a very popular betting event in 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: the US, typically because the time difference is an issue 322 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: a lot of the times, and some of these events 323 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: don't necessarily lend themselves to to good betting. Ice skating 324 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: and figure skating and things that are judged or are 325 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: sometimes they difficult. Now I will say that there has 326 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm assuming there has been some increased interest on Lindsay Vaughn. 327 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: What a crazy story that is Skier Tour a c 328 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: L just last week and then is out there competing. 329 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: So I would assume that that those betting markets will 330 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: be a little more popular. And then the hockey, the 331 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: hockey will we'll, we'll generate a little action at the 332 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: sports books. Uh, but overall Olympic sports winter or summer 333 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: are not heavily beat traditionally with US sports books. 334 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: There you go. 335 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: It nice to see some USA hockey do something. I 336 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: remember when I was literally a hatchling. I remember being 337 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: in mynt and uncle's house and they had a little 338 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: teeny black and white TV you know, set up in 339 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: like the dining area, so we could watch I guess 340 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: it was the replay of hockey, which was amazing, So 341 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: that that was pretty cool. One more thing before we 342 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: let you bounce, and just to go back to the 343 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, what's your take on this? I mean, we 344 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: know what there seems to be heavy money for the Seahawks, 345 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: but what you're taking, how do you see this playing out? 346 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: And then we'll let you go off to enjoy the 347 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: weekend in Super Bowl fun. 348 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the Seahawks and I'm gonna lay. 349 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: The points spread is four and a half, but I 350 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: actually am going to lay seven points and you know, 351 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: get a little extra price there. I think I was 352 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: plus one forty something around there. I think this is 353 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: a two score game. I think the Seahawks are just 354 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: all around better all sides of the ball. And I 355 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: think that the Patriots have kind of been a little 356 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: bit lucky with the teams they've got to face here 357 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: in the playoffs and late in this season. 358 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: So I like the Seahawks to win this comfortably. 359 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: There you go. 360 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for making time. You see him on 361 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: ESPN in recent weeks. You've seen him all over the 362 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: place talking about a lot of the aberrational stuff dealing 363 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: with wagering and everything else, and he covers the business 364 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: sports betting like a two ton heavy thing. He's the man, 365 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: David bring the paint Perton for ESPN Chalk. Thank you 366 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: for making time. You're a good man. Take care of yourself. 367 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: More sterling coming back. Seven hundred WLW Super Weekend, superbal 368 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: happening and uh not a lot with movies, Kevin Carr 369 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: back guys at the movies, Silver Gecko on the sub stack, 370 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: maybe playing a little ketchup because there's just so many 371 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: there's only so much time. You got to pick one. Kevin, 372 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: how are you house everything? Do you feel super this weekend? 373 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 7: I feel I would. I don't know if I say super, 374 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 7: you know good? I feel good. I mean at this 375 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 7: point I'm in my fifties. You wake up, you gotta 376 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 7: take Adville and if you're just good, you're doing great, 377 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So so yeah, it gets 378 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 7: it's it's it's pretty good. I mean, it's you know, 379 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 7: you know, to the baseline fluctuates over the years and 380 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 7: uh and by fluctuate starts crashing when you're in your forties. 381 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sort of true. 382 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Rus Jackson and I just sort of put our heads 383 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: down and think about that just a little bit here 384 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: on a weekend, Stirling, Sure, why not. Let's before we 385 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: get into being super Bowl weekend. There's a lot of 386 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: football movies, not necessarily super Bowl movies. Want to talk 387 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: about that, but playing ketchup, it's tough. This is historically 388 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl weekend. A lot of movies are not released 389 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: maybe streaming, but I mean they don't take a chance 390 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: on putting something out in theaters that's gonna get lost, 391 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: do they. 392 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yes, and no, I mean a lot of 393 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 7: big movies aren't released. They don't drop a major movie 394 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 7: on super Bowl weekend because you lose Sunday completely because 395 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 7: people are either watching the super even if you don't 396 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 7: like football, people will go for the food they're they're 397 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 7: they're going to watch the commercials even you can watch 398 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 7: most of those online now like now. But uh, it's 399 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 7: it's it's an event. It's very much that American event 400 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 7: that just gobbles up, you know, to suck the air 401 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 7: out of the room for everything else. But a lot 402 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 7: of smaller movies. So there's actually a bunch of stuff 403 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 7: that's been released. I don't know off the top of 404 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: my head of what they are. But this week and 405 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 7: last week there was a New Strangers movie, there was 406 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 7: Send Help, and there was last week you had that 407 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 7: Jason Satan movie Shelter, and now you've got I'll be 408 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 7: talking about a new Dracula movie that that's out, And 409 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 7: so we have a lot of smaller films out but 410 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 7: nothing big and I don't even know if anything's gonna 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 7: beat Send Help and Iron Lung from last week, which 412 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 7: which Iron Lung is kind of a big surprise hit 413 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 7: itself because it was self financed by Mark a Plier, 414 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 7: who's this YouTuber. 415 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Really, now, how does one get away with doing that 416 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: and getting it released and having it be such a 417 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: huge footprint when you say, I mean it's doing that, Well, 418 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: that's shocking considering how much muscles behind big releases. 419 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, for well, first of all, Iron Lung 420 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 7: was last week, so even market Plier's not going after 421 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 7: the super Fowl. But you know you have enough influence. 422 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 7: I mean, some of these big top dog in YouTube, 423 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 7: millions of people, billions of views of their videos. They're 424 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 7: very they're they're very well known. Maybe not to an 425 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 7: over generation, but you know, anyone under thirty knows who 426 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 7: these guys are. And he basically just took this took 427 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 7: this video game and self financed it, and he has 428 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 7: the money to do that, and then he got it 429 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 7: into movie theaters. Because here's the thing, a lot of 430 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 7: people think that movie theaters and movie studios are kind 431 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 7: of the same thing. They're not. And we really saw 432 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 7: that during COVID when theaters got shut down and then 433 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 7: they're like, we gotta have something to play, so they 434 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 7: were doing legacy hits and that kind of stuff. Or 435 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 7: like when Taylor Swift said, Hey, I'm gonna distribute my 436 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 7: own video and go away from the studios and just 437 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 7: strike a deal with AMC and they cut the studios 438 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 7: completely out of that financial juggernaut, and to a much 439 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 7: smaller degree, that's kind of what Mark Plier did with 440 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 7: with iron lung, and you and I don't know anything 441 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 7: about iron lung because we got gray hair. But those 442 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 7: who don't are aware. Let's just put it that way. 443 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you. 444 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: That makes good sense now to get Let's switch to 445 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: this Dracula thing for a minute, because I mean you 446 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: look at I mean from the beginning of when they 447 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: started writing about vampires. There have been a ridiculously large 448 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: number of like Dracula or vampire type movies, haven't there. 449 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: I mean like hundreds, Oh, they've been. 450 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, there have been a lot because I mean, of 451 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: course Dracula though the book was written by Bromstoker in 452 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: eighteen ninety seven or published in eighteen ninety seven, and 453 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 7: the first Dracula. I think there was another Dracula attempt 454 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 7: in film, like really the early advent of cinema, but 455 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 7: it was no Sparatu, the German movie from nineteen to 456 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: twenty tween two. Yeah, twenty two. 457 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: Well, that's in the top of my mind because I 458 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: just rewatched that thing not long ago. 459 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 7: It's a great movie. It was actually Bromstroker's Widow, Actually 460 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 7: it was it was so long ago. Bro Stoker's widow 461 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 7: was able to sue this German company from making the movie, 462 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 7: even though they called him count Orlock and they changed 463 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 7: something that it was Dracula. But they were ordered to 464 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 7: actually destroy the film, but they didn't, which is good 465 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 7: because it's a very good movie. And then in nineteen 466 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 7: thirty one, nine years later, they did the Bayla Lagosi version, 467 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 7: which is the most well known really now even today 468 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 7: and we're coming up in five years to its one 469 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 7: hundredth anniversary. Universal did that. 470 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: That's disturbing. By the way. 471 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on Substack was sterling on the 472 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Big One talking about this new Dracula movie and let's. 473 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: Slash back to the Bella Lagosa movie. 474 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if they did it at the same 475 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: time or like just consecutive filmings, same sets, effectively, same story, 476 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: almost verbatim. Right, they did the Spanish version or a 477 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Mexican version of the same movie. 478 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: That's crazy cool. 479 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, what they would do is they did this a 480 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 7: lot for the Spanish language market. They would shoot a 481 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 7: film during the day and then everyone would go home 482 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 7: and then the Spanish language cast and crew would show 483 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 7: up and shoot with the same pretty much all the 484 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 7: same elements, and they'd shoot the Spanish version, and honestly, 485 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: the Spanish Tracula, the guy who plays Dracula is a 486 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 7: little cheesy, but it's arguably a better constructed movie. They 487 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: take more time with their setups. There was there was 488 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 7: there's series that Todd Browning wasn't thrilled with what was 489 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: going on when he did Dracula, so he kind of 490 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 7: just sort of phoned it in a little bit some 491 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 7: of the some of the shots, and but also the 492 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 7: other big difference this is a cultural thing. 493 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 6: I'm sure. 494 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 7: There's the bust lines are a lot lower on the 495 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 7: Spanish Dracula. 496 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: The women's I did notice that it wasn't just me then, Okay, the. 497 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 7: Cleavage of the Carpathian mountains was much more prevalent in 498 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 7: in the in the Spanish language version. But yeah, that's 499 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 7: a very good movie. But it's just you can't top 500 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: bail Agosi's portrayal of the Count. And then, of course 501 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 7: throughout the years you had of course Hammer's versions of it, 502 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 7: and then then it just kind of blew up and 503 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 7: everybody was doing versions of Dracula by the time you 504 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 7: got to the seventies. You know, then they had black Ula. 505 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: I love that movie. I mean, I know it wasn't 506 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: exactly a great film, but I mean I love that. 507 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: I even liked that what was it Nick Cage thing. 508 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago we talked about Redfield. 509 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was fun. 510 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And those are the fun things. 511 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 8: I think. 512 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 7: The thing is, we've done Dracula to death and no, 513 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 7: no pun intended, completely intended, but you know it's it's like, 514 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: it's nice to do something different, and that's why I 515 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 7: like different takes on it and everything. Now, what's funny 516 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 7: with this Luke Bassan version. Luke Bassan directed, he produced 517 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 7: to take in movies, and he did like leem Nikita, 518 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 7: and he did like Lucy. He directed Lucy. That one 519 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 7: was Scarlett Johansen who had got power typing. Yeah, He's like, well, 520 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 7: we're gonna do this and we're gonna do this thing 521 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 7: because it's a love story and goes there's no love 522 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 7: story in the original book. If you've ever read Bromstoker's 523 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 7: original novel, there's no love story. There's no real connection 524 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 7: between Dracula and Mina. If she's just one of his 525 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 7: is somebody he bit and is trying and uses like 526 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 7: a psychic connection, but there's no love involved. It's not 527 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 7: like his wife had been reincarnated from four hundred years ago. 528 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 7: That started in the sixties, Okay, Originally Dan Curtis, who 529 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 7: did Dark Shadows, he had Barnabas Collins as a vampire 530 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 7: there who was basically Dracula, and so they had him 531 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: searching for a lost love. And then when Dan Curtis 532 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 7: did his TV movie of Dracula with Jack Palance in 533 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy four, that's when they wove in this hole. 534 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 7: He's looking for his resurrected lover, and that has persisted 535 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 7: in a lot of stuff. Brom Stoker's Dracula by Francis 536 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 7: port Coppola in nineteen ninety two definitely filled that a lot, 537 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: and they he even had the tagline love Never Dies. 538 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 7: And even since like Fright Night nineteen eighty five was 539 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: a Stracula that's that's that had the reincarnated love in 540 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 7: it and everything. So there's nothing new and so I 541 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 7: don't know what Luke Passan's smoking, but he got his 542 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 7: history wrong. But it's a Dracula movie. It's a it's 543 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 7: a period piece, and it's lavish and extravagant and uh, 544 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 7: it's silly at times, but you know, Caleb Landry Jones 545 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 7: choose the scenery with his fangs and he is he's 546 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 7: just a delightful performance as it's demented countant. So I'll 547 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 7: give him, give him a pass on that. 548 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: There you go, Rush Jackson is bruising the show. So 549 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: what about Loved First Bite one of his. 550 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great one, but no, that's that's actual Dracula. Yeah, yeah, 551 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 7: but I think, you know, because he was into Susan 552 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 7: Saint James, who wasn't Yeah, well yeah, and but I 553 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 7: do believe I think that that he did. She did 554 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 7: look like his residence, like the version of his wife, 555 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 7: and so I think they used that in Love It 556 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 7: First Bite as well. 557 00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 9: Yeah. 558 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: And what was the one with Jim Carrey where he 559 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: was sort of taken in Once Bitten? Yeah, I think 560 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: that's what it was. 561 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 7: And that's with Lauren Hunting. You know, she was she 562 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 7: was getting a little older, but she still looked pretty 563 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 7: good back in what was it the eighty late eighties, 564 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 7: early nineties. 565 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of his earlier things. I think 566 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: if he was still doing like living collar stuff or 567 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: what I don't even know. 568 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 7: But yeah, I want to say nineteen eighty five. It 569 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: was pretty early. 570 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 10: You know. 571 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 7: It's funny was speaking of Jim Carrey. There's nothing to 572 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 7: do with Dracula. He was in the movie The Deadpool, 573 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 7: which is one of the one of the dirty Harry movies. 574 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was like on a down load, right, 575 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: well it was. 576 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 7: It's just nobody knew who he was because it was 577 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 7: in the late eighties and nobody really knew wo Jim 578 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 7: Carrey was okay at the time. And when I remember 579 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 7: going to see that movie in the theater because he 580 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 7: played a rock like a like a you know, hardcore 581 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 7: rock guy, and yeah, he overd overdos was on drugs, 582 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 7: but it was like the killer was doing it because 583 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 7: his name was in a dead Pool. But when I 584 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,239 Speaker 7: saw the movie as a teenager, I was just like, Oh, 585 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 7: this is just some crazy guy and he's either the 586 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 7: effect of new rocker. If you go and watch that 587 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 7: clip now on YouTube, you can't take it seriously because 588 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 7: it's Jim Carrey playing an crazy rocker doing a music 589 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: video of Welcome to the Jungle by by Oh Gosh 590 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 7: who did to Welcome to the Jungle? Yes, guns n' 591 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 7: roses yea. 592 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Russ says that it was Leem Neeson 593 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: who played that guy that was so that was way 594 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: before taking and took and still got to get whatever 595 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: all the names of the more. 596 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Leam Neeson played the music video director. And 597 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 7: so you had these two like who became huge stars 598 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 7: before they became huge stars in America. And because Liam 599 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 7: Neeson had a bit of history in Irish films and 600 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 7: stuff like that, but you know, it wasn't until he 601 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 7: came over. So yeah, that's if you want to see, 602 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 7: go go say it's the opening of Just Just Through 603 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 7: the Deadpool with Jim Carrey. You can find it on YouTube. 604 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 7: It's weird to watch now because it's just it's a 605 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 7: different scene. 606 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally different times. Kevin Carr, by the way, solb 607 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: get on the sub stack. Melanie in Oakley says, what 608 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: about Adam Sandler in Hotel Transylvania. 609 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was. 610 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and that was having some fun with Dracula, 611 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 7: you know, and it was they they love doing kids movies. 612 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 7: Kids think of Dracula and you're like, they always have 613 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 7: to kind of get around. He doesn't really kill anyone. Now, 614 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 7: you know, he kind of tried skirt the whole morality 615 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 7: of being a monster, which is. 616 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: Really kind of insidious because the fact is you wean 617 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: him on it that way, and then the next thing 618 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're in a trance and then he's taking 619 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: their fluids too, and that's not good. 620 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 621 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 7: No, I don't know you're yeah, but yeah, you know, 622 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 7: the the Hotel Translate Venu is fun. I remember as 623 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 7: a kid watching like the Drag Pack on Saturday mornings, 624 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 7: And of course you have the whole Count Chocula angle. 625 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 7: You never had cartoons, but the Count, you know, the 626 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 7: Count on Sesame Street. He's basically Dracula. He just loves 627 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: the Count's. 628 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: Right, because it's fun and it is still fun, counting Kevincarr. 629 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Before let's shift here. A super Bowl is happening, and 630 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: I could talk vampires till midnight, probably, but that that 631 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: would be a long way to go. Yeah, it would 632 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: be super Bowl movies. There are a few, but a 633 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: lot of football movies. Do you have like any that 634 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, these are my mussy or are you indifferent? 635 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, because I think again it goes back to 636 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Adam Sandler water Boy, which is the fun part. Jerry 637 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Maguire Brian Songs emotional any given Sunday's tremendous. 638 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, And what's funny with me is though the 639 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 7: ones I tend to gravitate to. And I don't know why, 640 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 7: but I tend to like the college football movies better, 641 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 7: like Rudy's such a great movie. 642 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: Rudy is absolutely a great movie. 643 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 7: Or even remember The Titans, which was high school? 644 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 6: Right? 645 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's Friday Night Lights. 646 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 7: Right, there's Friday Night Lights. That's that's a big popular 647 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 7: I personally didn't particularly like it, but and I know what, 648 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 7: everyone loves the TV series. But but there's also but 649 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 7: you can have fun with it too. I mean you 650 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 7: can have the serious ones and then you can have 651 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 7: the more fun ones. You know, North Dallas forty and. 652 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: They did twice, right, they did that. 653 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: I think we were kids. It was like in the 654 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: eighties or late seventies were I was small when the 655 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: first one came out, and then I know, they just 656 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: did the last one again, a remake. What last ten years, 657 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: give or take five years. 658 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 7: Are you thinking you wait, are you thinking of the 659 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 7: Burt Reynolds movie. You're thinking of the longest yards maybe 660 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 7: that longest yard, yeah, because that was Burt Reynolds, and 661 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 7: then Adam Sandler, who of course played Dracula. Yeah in 662 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 7: the cartoons. He was in the longest yard in the remake, 663 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 7: which was longer than ten years ago. I hate to 664 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 7: call you, No, it's. 665 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: All right to goes fast. 666 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: I was just talking to Russ about that off the year, 667 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: and mister Jackson's like, it's true, dude, it's what happens. 668 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess I did get confused NORTHUS Dallas 669 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: forty with the other two. 670 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: So because there are so many Yeah, and. 671 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 7: Another you know, what's a really good sort of like surprise. 672 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 7: You didn't realize that it would be a football movie, 673 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 7: as Heaven Can Wait with Warren Baby. 674 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh, I vaguely remember that. Now, was that someone trying 675 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: to get to heaven? They came back to try to 676 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: fix stuff? I mean, was it one of those. 677 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, he died and he had to go back into 678 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 7: a guy's body and he ended up being a million 679 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 7: or something. Then he like bought the Dallas Cowboys or 680 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 7: the Rams or something like that, and then they turned 681 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 7: into a football movie. It's it's kind of this weird 682 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 7: progression of a film. I know, I don't have a 683 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 7: whole bunch of more recent ones, but yeah, I mean 684 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 7: it's it's just they kind of come in gluts, you know, 685 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 7: here and there, you get a whole bunch of them, 686 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 7: and then they kind of dial back. Gus is a 687 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 7: great movie. 688 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about Dusts. Yeah, now that had Don Knots, right, donts. 689 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: It all goes back to Don Knotts, one of the 690 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: most underrated actors of all time. 691 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 7: I love Don Nuts and for once he wasn't playing 692 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 7: the ass the donkey that would kick the football. Yeah, 693 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 7: or Earbud Bud Yeah, yeah, Abud was Airbud was basketball. 694 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 7: Airbud wide Retriever was. 695 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: Playing with words there. Yeah, for sure. 696 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: All right, you can get Kevin Carr in your box, 697 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: your mailbox electronically. He's not just gonna show up in 698 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: his shorts, in his beard and just be like, here's 699 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: some comics I wrote, or random other etchings and random 700 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: other stuff. Maybe he he is that way sometimes, Silver 701 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: Gecko on Substack, fat Guys of the movies, anything else 702 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: before you let you bounce Kevin Carr. 703 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 7: No, I think that's it. Yeah, just you know, get 704 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 7: you get your I'm here. I'm here for the food. 705 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: The food is good. We like the ads. We like 706 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: the food, we like the football, we like the movies. 707 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: And we love you. 708 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Carr. Thank you for making it all right. Man, 709 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: get out of here. We'll talk to you again soon. 710 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: More Sterling coming back later on. We'll talk to Kathleen 711 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: Fuller O dot Potholes seventy five and two seventy five 712 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: with some future upgrades. Barrel season, Mike d Wallspace dot Com. 713 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: So much to do all till midnight here together, Sterling 714 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: Nation Station, home of the Red seven hundred W l W, 715 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Will. President Trump apologized for the racist video posted 716 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: on his truth social feed depicting showing former President Obama 717 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: and First Lady. 718 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: As apes. 719 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: Listen, it's the President of the United States, and it's 720 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: a ridiculously wicked, ugly, hateful, flat out racist trope that's 721 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: been out there since basically the beginning of time and 722 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: just utilized with and four convenience. Posted on his feed 723 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: for the better part of twelve hours, defended, defended by 724 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: his press people, yeah, saying, you know, no, apologies. I 725 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense. The president 726 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: of the United states he has so many plates spinning 727 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: that effectively in the middle of the night, he takes 728 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: time to post this video. I want to ask you. 729 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: Our president not gonna apologize, said I didn't make a mistake. 730 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: The Press secretary defending the video and called people complaining 731 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: about it outraged about it fake outrage. So I mean, 732 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: here we are, it's Friday night. I'd like to goof off. 733 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: I'd like to have some fun. And we've covered super 734 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: Bowl stuff and movie stuff. We got the pothole talk 735 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: later into issues with Odott Cincinnati. After the ten thirty report, 736 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: we'll go to space with Mike Dwallspace dot com. But 737 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: I want to open up the phones right now. Did 738 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: President Trump do anything wrong? 739 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: Is it a hoax? 740 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: A buddy of mine says it's a hoax that somehow 741 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: people have been hoodwinked into believing that President Trump would 742 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: post this. Somebody else I know said it was funny, 743 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: it was a laugh. It's just a gag. It's no 744 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: big deal. I've seen on social media people saying it's 745 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome. Can you imagine if anyone else, whether 746 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: they worked here where I am at seven hundred WLW, 747 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: if they worked at a fortune five hundred company, if 748 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: they worked for a major brand of some other type, 749 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: a PR person, an underling doing something like this. But 750 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: the President of the United States seems below the office, 751 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: seems below the belt and ugly and disgusting and bewildering. 752 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: Are you okay with it? 753 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: Does it make sense? Is it just funny? 754 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: Is it something or nothing? Give you a chance to 755 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: sound off. I mean, I just try to wrap my 756 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: brain around it, and I have a real hard time 757 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: making sense of it. Five point three seven four nine 758 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: seven thousand, eight hundred the big one. You can talk 759 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: back on the iHeartRadio app by clicking on that microphone 760 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: and leaving a message. If you're on a X at 761 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: Stirling Radio, you can find me there. Carolyn Lovitt said 762 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: it was just, you know, outrage that was made up, fake. 763 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: Then they pulled it down after some twelve hours. The 764 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: video is about a minute long. It was shared by 765 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: President Trump last night about eleven forty four pm talking 766 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: about election of twenty twenty and already proven to be 767 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: bs claims that have been debunked about it being fixed. Look, 768 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: he lost by seven million, he came back, he won 769 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: a second term, and that's why he's in office, just 770 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: finished up his first year, that's why he's there now 771 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: doing the work that he's doing. Now, I just you know, 772 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: tell me, And if you're somebody with more melanie in 773 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: your skin than me, I would like to know. Oh, 774 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: how does this make you feel that the sitting president 775 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: of the United States somehow downplays this and acts like 776 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: it's nothing, that his underlings act like it's nothing. But 777 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 1: there's hate and frustration and aggravation and complaints from both 778 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: sides of the aisle, and lawmakers across the country coming 779 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork in a very rare situation to say, 780 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: you know what, no, baby, no, this ain't right. 781 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 2: Do you think it's right? What would have happened if 782 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Biden had done that? 783 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 7: What happened? 784 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: What would happen if it was not about race and 785 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: a former president and a first lady, But if it 786 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: had been about Catholics or Jews or Baptist or Muslims 787 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: or pick another group, Jays or transsexuals, or pick one 788 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: some other group that you know is regularly poked at 789 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: or marginalized in some other type of way. When it's convenient, 790 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: when it's okay, I am, I can buy it. Frankly, 791 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: I want to know what you think it's going to 792 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: go on. Larry's First in Redding five three hundred, the 793 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: big one, your chance to get interactive Friday Sterling, Larry, 794 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: what's up? 795 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 6: What do you know? 796 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 2: What do you think? 797 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I no longer live in Redding, 798 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 11: I keep telling the guy I lived at Cincinnati. I 799 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 11: moved in Cincinnati last July. 800 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm glaging. I'm glad you found a 801 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: new place. 802 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 11: Was a certainly was a culture shock. But hey, listen, 803 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 11: uh by, would Trump take the time, Well, why why 804 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 11: did Obama take the time to create a fake Russian 805 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 11: hoax and try to. 806 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 12: Put Larry Trump and just do you know. 807 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: Dun new soundry tell me about their video and. 808 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 7: Tell me put it this way. 809 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 11: Yeah cares, but you've seen the care a lot. 810 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: But nobody really cares. So you don't care because you're racist. 811 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: I guess. 812 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 11: Well, just like they say, what Joe Trump can't take 813 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 11: a joke. 814 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 2: So that that's a joke. 815 00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 13: Take a joke? 816 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 9: Oak? 817 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: Is that a joke? 818 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 11: You think it's lighting up? 819 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 13: Buddy? 820 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: Lighting up? So so you're okay with it? A president 821 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: of the United States, I could care less. 822 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 7: I don't know why you care so much, because. 823 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: It's insulting, it's disgusting, it's racist and frankly anti American 824 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: for me, Well, you know, Larry, for first of all, 825 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, are you able to have an articulate thought 826 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: and conversation with. 827 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 2: Me here or not. 828 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 11: I'm just telling well, you're the ones all up and 829 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 11: roars like you're a racist yourself. Probably, I mean, it 830 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 11: takes one to know one. 831 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 2: I guess, huh, how am I racist? 832 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 11: Why do you get so upset? It's like you did 833 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 11: with the Lincoln Heights thing, big brigging deal. I don't 834 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 11: see you going out getting all upset about others. 835 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, the Lincoln's Height Lincoln Heights 836 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: thing was masked dressed in black, just shopping. Go away, Larry, 837 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: thank you that, Back in your cage and back on 838 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: your mets. So he mentions the Lincoln Heights thing that 839 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: was about some racist Nazis with long guns who came 840 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: out and intimidated people some time ago and basically faced 841 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: no real charges or anything under the guise of free speech. 842 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: So uh, yeah, I found a problem with that. Yeah, 843 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: I found it disgusting and inappropriate and Apparently that's where 844 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: the line of free speech is for a lot of people. 845 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 2: So I just is it possible. 846 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: That as we sit here, we're okay with the president, 847 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: or you're okay with the president who thinks it's all 848 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: right marginalizing people because of the color of their skin 849 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: and making it look like posting a video of them 850 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: as apes. That's American, that's class, that's top notch. It's 851 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: certainly the American way, and that's our president. To meddletown 852 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: in John was Sterling five three seven, four nine eight hundred, 853 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: the big one, John, what do. 854 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 7: You think Sterling? 855 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 6: What happened was he vaguely looked at the video on 856 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 6: the cliff right, He didn't see that racist end. This 857 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 6: is what the news, the big news aren't reporting. He 858 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 6: posted that. You know, he's not mister perfect. He makes mistakes. 859 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 6: You know that's already been proven in the past. He 860 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 6: posted that, but he didn't realize what the ending was 861 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 6: made a suff Look, I can ask there, Yes he did, okay, 862 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 6: but we're all behind this man, will be behind him 863 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. 864 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 7: There was a mistake. I know, he didn't mean that. 865 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 6: He didn't see the end of that, and that's you know, 866 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 6: and I've already read the articles. He didn't he didn't 867 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 6: mean for that to be post. 868 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: He didn't know the end of that. 869 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: Why why would person defend it, I'm not you know, 870 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 2: because that's what they do. 871 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 7: They're defending. You know, you're defending. 872 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I didn't see exactly, you know, if 873 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 6: they were just depicted as as like apes or monkeys, 874 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 6: and someone thought it was prejudiced, maybe they're the ones 875 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 6: that are prejudice or was it depicting them as apes? 876 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: Yes, you know perfectly. 877 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. 878 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: I've known was there was, there was no accident, and 879 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: then yes, it was their heads on apes and it 880 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: was a skid. It's ridiculous, right, And. 881 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 6: What I've what I've read is that he didn't see 882 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 6: it all the way through. 883 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: Do you believe that, really the President of the United 884 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: States posts something to the war? 885 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 7: So I think I do believe it. 886 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 6: And here's why, because you've never seen him post anything 887 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 6: any anywhere near that and his life and he's done 888 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 6: some doozies, right, but nothing near that, right, So you'd 889 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 6: have to you'd have to imagine. Yet he asked this, 890 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 6: probably wasn't ignorant mistake. 891 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: Why won't he apologize? 892 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 7: You know what I mean? 893 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he apologize? 894 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 6: Because he's not as seen as were you ever known 895 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 6: mister Trump to apologize in his life. No, it's just 896 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 6: not who he is, and that's not how he was 897 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 6: raised to be. 898 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 10: You know. 899 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 4: And he's not apologetic. 900 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 6: That's just the way it is. We apologize when we 901 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 6: loved Trump. We know he didn't mean to do that, 902 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 6: and he didn't see the end of that. 903 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 7: We believe him when. 904 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, honestly, here, Uh, at what point? Where 905 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: is the line of where you go? 906 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 9: You know what? 907 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: No, that's who he is and he was okay with it, 908 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: and he's not going to apologize because he doesn't give 909 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: a damn. 910 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: And that's just what it is. I mean, how can you? 911 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 9: How do you? 912 00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 913 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: I am bewildered at the ability of people to apologize 914 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: and find a way for excuses for him. Like no 915 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: one I have ever heard in my career is a 916 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: human to this point. 917 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 6: Right, Well, he's not a perfect individual by no means. 918 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: Well, no, neither am I, and neither are you. John. 919 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 7: We're human, right, That's that's my point. 920 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 6: We're just not in the power where the media sees 921 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 6: every single mistake we made. He made a mistake on 922 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 6: that and everybody's seeing it. He doesn't have to run 923 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 6: a third term unless we want him to. 924 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 2: Right, well, he can't. You know, you get two terms 925 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: in the United States. 926 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, So we can give him this mistake. 927 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 7: So we give it. 928 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 2: I gotcha, all right, all right, John, I appreciate the 929 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: call me in. Thank you. So there you go. 930 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: He's not going to get a third term. He didn't 931 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: watch the video all the way through. Uh, it was 932 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: an accident. You give the guy a pass, You give 933 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 1: the guy a mulligan on it. You go, Oops, it's 934 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: just the president. He doesn't have time to pay attention 935 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: to everything that he posts, so it's not it's nothing. 936 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: It's no biggie right, Wow, that's amazing President of the 937 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: United States. Some racist bs if I ever heard it 938 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: five point three seven four nine eight hundred, the Big 939 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: One and talk Back the iHeartRadio app. I mean, it 940 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: makes my head and my heart hurt. 941 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 2: It does. 942 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: I would think that we're better than this as a nation, 943 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: as a people, but we're not. And people are alright 944 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: with They're like, no No, he's my man. 945 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: That's all right. You know how he is. 946 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: He's just old. He's a racist white guy, but you 947 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: know he's doing good things. Really, can you imagine if 948 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: Biden had done that? Can you imagine if Obama had 949 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: done that and it was some white people dressed up 950 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: as like clans people or something. I mean, it is wow, 951 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: tremendous to west Wood. And Kevin was sterling on the 952 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: big one. What do you think the president? Is she 953 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna pass here? 954 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 14: So are we talking about the highest level of administrator 955 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 14: in the lands? 956 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 4: Early? 957 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 2: That's that's the president. That's the president. 958 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 959 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 13: So I am, I am, I believe right, a true 960 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 13: blue American from the heart. I think that no matter 961 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 13: who you are, right, you should have expectations of the 962 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 13: president to be the highest administrator of the land. And 963 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 13: and I don't understand how people keep trying to First off, 964 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 13: how do you keep playtating him and don't hold him 965 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 13: accountable for his own actions? 966 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 2: That's what. 967 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 13: He's a great old man. It's not like he's a child. 968 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 13: And oh you were going to smack him on the 969 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 13: head like no, no, that's bad, you should do better. 970 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 13: This is and he's in the highest office out the last. Really, 971 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 13: I don't care if you're black, white, makes Mexican, Chinese. 972 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 13: You are the representative of the United States. You literally 973 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 13: are court blanked the representative of the whole country, and 974 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 13: you should be held to that standard, just like every 975 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 13: other president before this one. It is crazy that people 976 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 13: have the nerve, honestly, to say, oh, it was just 977 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 13: a joke. That's that's not a joke. And if that 978 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 13: is your joke, you. 979 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 8: Have no taste. 980 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 13: And it is terrible that the president of the United 981 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 13: States has no text. 982 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: It is bewilderer Todd. I appreciate the callments, Kevin, thank 983 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: you for the call. I'm sorry to Todd. Now got 984 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: about a minute. What do you have? Is this the 985 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: president of the United States doing what an oops and accident? 986 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: You give him a mulligan or and you go, this 987 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: is just who he is, and that's some ugliness. I mean, 988 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm bewildered by him. 989 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I don't get it, because I you know, 990 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 12: I voted for Trump three times, and I love the majority, 991 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 12: not all, but the majority of his policies. And I 992 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 12: don't understand why from time to time he does things 993 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 12: that are this stupid. I don't understand it, and as 994 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 12: a leader of the Republican Party who's trying to get 995 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 12: the African Americans to vote for them more and more, 996 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 12: I don't understand why you would do. 997 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 7: Something like that. 998 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I. 999 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: I I'm almost afraid to think of if I actually 1000 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: understood it, that I would be maybe part of the 1001 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: problem too. 1002 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, Todd. I appreciate the comment. Thank you do. 1003 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: Can I get NICKI in. I gotta get in trouble us. 1004 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble. All right, let's do this, 1005 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: NICKI hang on. We'll try to keep this going. We 1006 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: maybe revisit this as well. We get Kathleen Fuller from 1007 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: od out. We got to ten third report straight away, 1008 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 1: more Sterling. Friday night, the President of the United States 1009 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: host some racist stuff. Not his fault, it's just an ups. 1010 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: Give him a mulligan, right, unbelievable. Seven hundred WW missed 1011 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 1: the day, miss some snow missed the ODDD trucks in 1012 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: and around the tri state and Kathleen Fuller snow quick from. 1013 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: Botot, Cincinnati. Welcome back to seven hundred WLW. 1014 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 9: How are you? 1015 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 2: How's everything? 1016 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 15: I'm doing fine, and I think things are are pretty. 1017 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 1: Good right now, Yeah, not too bad, but you know 1018 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: what I have seen because this has been horrendous. So 1019 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: it's been cold and then it warms up, then it 1020 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: gets wet and it's a really cold and and more 1021 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: snow and on and on in the last two weeks 1022 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: or so since Fern, which by the way, is still 1023 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: the most poorly named storm I think I've ever encountered 1024 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to harassment by snow or otherwise, Kathleen, 1025 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: the potholes, if you listen closely, you can almost now 1026 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 1: hear the road surfaces, degrading on seams and random other 1027 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: o spots. How soon are you able to get out 1028 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 1: there and patch it? Because I'm guessing this erratic weather 1029 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: doesn't help odot. 1030 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 5: No, the weather doesn't. Obviously. 1031 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 15: We try to get out and address those, you know, 1032 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 15: as soon as we can and as soon as we're 1033 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 15: aware of them, more as soon as we spot them. 1034 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 15: So it's one of those things that, you know, get 1035 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 15: out of a storm cycle, we will definitely go out, 1036 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 15: you know and repair them immediately. But you know, we 1037 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 15: know what's coming, which we've got the freeze and then 1038 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 15: we've got the fall cycle. 1039 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 5: So that means potholes, So. 1040 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 15: We'll probably, you know, be getting getting out there a lot, 1041 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 15: and I'd say next week we'll be having a lot 1042 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 15: of crews out there avement repairs. 1043 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: Any idea at this point how far through the season 1044 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: as we sit here in the first week or so 1045 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: into February. On the use of salt and melt products. 1046 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm always interested in like the tonnage because for some 1047 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: reason I get a kick out of that. It really 1048 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything to most of us because we get 1049 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 1: like a fifty or one hundred pound bag of stuff 1050 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: and we're set at the house. But you guys have truckloads, 1051 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: and I'm just curious how much you've gone through throwing 1052 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: salt melt. 1053 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 15: So I haven't kicked the numbers today, I'll be honest. 1054 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 15: I kind of took the day off. Yeah, so I 1055 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 15: haven't kicked the numbers. But so going into after the 1056 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 15: last storm, the big storm, the firm after Fern. So, 1057 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 15: going into Fern, we had the round I think forty 1058 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 15: forty one thousand tons on hand district wide for us 1059 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 15: in district day, so forty one thousand tons. 1060 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 5: Going into it. 1061 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 15: We came out of it, we had only used around 1062 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 15: ten thousand times sense because we weren't putting down a 1063 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 15: lot of salt. We weren't putting any salt down during 1064 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 15: the height of the storm. 1065 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 5: We were just plowing. 1066 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 15: So we put a little bit down in the beginning, 1067 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 15: and then we used a lot in the after, but 1068 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 15: not not a tremendous amount because it was so cold, 1069 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 15: which we talked about all of that, like what why 1070 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 15: salt wasn't going to be effective and all that great stuff, 1071 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 15: and why salt usage would be kind of limited. So 1072 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 15: ten thousand tons from a huge storm not too bad. 1073 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 15: So we went into the beginning of the week, we 1074 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 15: had around thirty two thousand on hand. I know, we 1075 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 15: had a little bit of something that happened on Tuesday 1076 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 15: wasn't much, so you know, we had more than enough. 1077 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 15: I'd say that today, you know, we put down a 1078 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 15: lot more salt in our district. I don't know the 1079 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 15: numbers because I won't see those until probably Monday. You know, 1080 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 15: we've probably put down quite a bit of salt today 1081 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 15: because of the temperatures, because you know, it was a 1082 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 15: lot of snow that came in very quickly, and. 1083 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 5: That temperature was for you know, the use of salt. 1084 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, we use. 1085 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 15: You know, on hand, our district average use each year 1086 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 15: is probably forty forty five thousand tons. You know, in 1087 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 15: a really bad winner, we're going to see that number, 1088 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,800 Speaker 15: probably about fifty thousand tons for the entire winner for 1089 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 15: US winter season, winter weather season. But it's been there 1090 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 15: have been off years where we didn't have a whole lot. 1091 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 15: We've only used, you know, a lot of precipitation. We 1092 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 15: only use maybe twenty five thousand times. 1093 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 5: For the whole season. 1094 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: It's just an inconceivable amount. Kathleen Folder, by the way, 1095 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,439 Speaker 1: from Odave, Cincinnati, was Stirling on the Big one. Where 1096 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: do you get that salt and other melt product? I mean, 1097 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: because there's got to be like veins of salt someplace. 1098 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: Does it come from Greece? Where does it come from? 1099 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm just curious where does the originally. 1100 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,919 Speaker 15: There are salt mines in northern Ohio up around the lake. 1101 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 15: And then yeah, we get our shipped in from gosh, 1102 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 15: I can't think of where exactly. You asked me how 1103 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 15: too quickly? So they come in and you know there's 1104 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 15: different You've got different suppliers and who depends on who 1105 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 15: the contract is with and throughout the state. I think 1106 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 15: we have you know, kind of varies from district to 1107 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 15: district who they're who their contracts with. But you know 1108 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 15: that there's uh, like you know, Carville is one of 1109 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 15: those suppliers and stuff, so you know there there are 1110 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 15: salt mines up around in the Cleveland Lake Erie area 1111 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 15: up there, and then I can yeah, and so I don't. 1112 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 5: Want to misspeak. 1113 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 15: So we'll just pretend that Kathleen doesn't know, rather than 1114 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 15: to say I didn't. 1115 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to put you in a corner. I'm sorry, 1116 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to be that guy, Kathleen. 1117 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's late, it is, It's all right, it's 1118 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: you know. What's funnyest I remember one of the first 1119 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: times is a kid noticing what was going up and 1120 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: down the river on barges and I remember seeing there's 1121 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: coal and I'm like, oh, that's what is that white 1122 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: su there? Oh that's salt. I'm like, you're carrying salt 1123 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: on the river. They're like, oh, yeah, it make its 1124 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: way down and on it go. So it's a pretty 1125 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: amazing thing as it gets around. One of the things 1126 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: in the last week or so, I saw some attention. 1127 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: I know Russ Jackson's already been online. He's very excited 1128 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: about having a hand and design and upgrades and improvements 1129 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: for seventy five two seventy five, the exchange that all 1130 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: of us love so much. I mean, you can always 1131 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: tell people who aren't used to driving through the dry 1132 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 1: state because they drive tentatively, and there is no room 1133 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: for tentative driving in and around getting on two seventy 1134 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: five or off without making things more complicated. 1135 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 2: How far along is the planning process for the upgrades. 1136 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 15: A lot, and we just kind of got kind of 1137 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 15: early in the planning process. So right now, you know, 1138 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 15: we have we've completed a feasibility study. We right now 1139 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 15: have what's called the alternative evaluations going on, and we 1140 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 15: have an open public comment period going to be open 1141 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 15: at the end of February where people can go online 1142 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 15: and give us their feedback about some of the alternatives 1143 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 15: that we're proposing. 1144 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 5: Once we get all of that, take a closer. 1145 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 15: Look at the different elements of each alternative, will come 1146 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 15: up with a preferred alternative, and then we can forward 1147 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 15: that into construction. Providing we get funding for constructions. We're 1148 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 15: funded through design. I think we'll be able to get 1149 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 15: there and it's probably going to take a couple of 1150 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 15: years before we can probably about three be honest, before 1151 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 15: we can actually get into construction. But what we're looking 1152 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 15: at doing is reconfiguring and changing the access from seventy 1153 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 15: five South to to seventy five East, and we're looking 1154 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 15: at building a couple two options of our different styles 1155 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 15: of a flyover ramp. 1156 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 5: And then they're looking at doing like a pension type 1157 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 5: of system. 1158 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 15: But again, people should go online and check it out 1159 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 15: at Public Input. I think it's publicantook dot com slash 1160 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 15: I seventy five by two seventy five Improvements, and they 1161 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 15: can get all kinds of great information about what we're 1162 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 15: proposing to do and what those schematics, what those designs 1163 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 15: are going to look like, and get us some input 1164 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 15: on Yeah. 1165 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: Man, it's already almost barrel season and that's a couple 1166 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: of years away from breaking ground and getting them going there. 1167 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: And it just seems like those barrels just move from 1168 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: one spot to another, up and down, you know, the 1169 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: Interstate seventy five or seventy one, and that's the nature 1170 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: of it. I'm not hating on you or what you do, 1171 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: but I mean a lot of you know, you of traffic, 1172 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: and you know it degrades and you've got to get 1173 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: it fixed up and make improvements. That's just the nature 1174 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: of the beast, I suppose. But yeah, what I think 1175 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people are wondering is because even though 1176 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: we're here in February sort of still, you know, a 1177 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: couple months arguably in the midst of this ugly winter, 1178 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: which I'm I'm you know, it's closer to probably normal 1179 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: than not, but I like to whine, as you know, 1180 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: but in the distance is barrel season. So what are 1181 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: we looking at as far as barrels being put out 1182 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: in work beginning or at least getting back up to 1183 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: speed once this nasty, cold and ugly snow gets out 1184 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: of here and it starts becoming a red baseball season. 1185 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 15: Well, we of course have the No Crease Expressway series 1186 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 15: of projects taking place right now, Phases eight, eight B 1187 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 15: and eight C. That's just several different projects that are 1188 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 15: all coming together there between the lateral and Ronald Reagan. 1189 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 15: So between the Nord latter and Ronald Reagan, we're doing 1190 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 15: the widening, We're doing you know, railroad, bridge replacements, pump 1191 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 15: station all of those things are basically underway still. They've 1192 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 15: had a slow down for the winter months, but not 1193 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 15: a complete shutdown, so the crews are working periodically. But 1194 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 15: again you're going to be seeing, you know, more construction, 1195 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 15: more work taking place on that dog month where we 1196 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 15: are doing the widening. We're kind of starting on the 1197 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 15: southbound side. We've got traffic traffic shifted over in a 1198 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 15: contraflow lane that's in place, that's going to be there 1199 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 15: for a while, So a lot of work happening there. 1200 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 15: And then as you can a little further south, we 1201 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 15: are getting ready to start the lind Street bridge replacement 1202 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,959 Speaker 15: project that is going to kick off, I believe next month. 1203 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 15: I don't have an exact start date on hand, but 1204 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 15: we are going to be closing Winn Street Bridge and 1205 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 15: this is a part of a much bigger plan and 1206 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 15: this ties into the Guest Street closure that we're going 1207 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 15: to impact start for the water life, but also that's 1208 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 15: going to tie into the entire Rob Brent Spence Bridge 1209 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 15: cord Or series of projects. 1210 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 5: One of many different things happening. 1211 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 15: Lynn Street will be closing for the replacement there, so 1212 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 15: there's gonna be a lot of packs coming up pretty soon, 1213 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 15: very very quickly. There time in March, be looking for 1214 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 15: that closure to happen. That providentually tie into a lot 1215 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 15: of other improvements that we're making, not just on the 1216 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 15: seventy five quarter, but also working with the. 1217 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 5: City on some of their things. So lot's happening there 1218 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 5: just on seventy five. 1219 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 15: Gosh, there's going to be work on two seventy five. 1220 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 15: We've got some resurfacing we're doing. We've got oh another 1221 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 15: project that's going to be getting underway, and people are 1222 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 15: probably wondering why we're going to be doing this, But 1223 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 15: the through the Lachland Split seventy five going northbound, that 1224 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 15: long bridge, the long span that you have basically come 1225 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 15: from Mill Creek and it goes up, it goes over 1226 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 15: Mill Creek and then continues on, it goes over several streets. 1227 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 15: We're going to be doing that, basically rehabbing that bridge 1228 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 15: through northbound seventy five and then doing some pavement work there. 1229 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna be a while before. 1230 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 15: We take away the lock and split and we realign 1231 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 15: seventy five northbound to the south beund side. So in 1232 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 15: the meantime, we've got to make sure the infrastructure that 1233 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 15: is there is maintained and in good shape. So we've 1234 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 15: got a big project taking place on that section. Boy, 1235 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 15: I know there's gonna be a lot of other things 1236 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 15: I'm gonna be talking about. Those are the main ones 1237 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 15: I've got off the top of my head a lot 1238 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 15: for seventy five. 1239 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 2: It really is. It's a lot of barrels, that's all 1240 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 2: I know, in a lot of the lias. 1241 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: But once it's all done getting across the Ohio back 1242 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and forth into the added span, that's going to looks 1243 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: the renderings I've seen, I think they've come close to 1244 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: finalizing most of it right. 1245 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 2: It's looks spectacular. 1246 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 15: So it is, and this is a long time coming 1247 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 15: to all of the work that they're doing on seventy 1248 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 15: five through the Valley, Middle Creek Friend Spence Bridge Corridor, 1249 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 15: where all of these things will make traveling through Hamilton 1250 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 15: County so much safer easier, reducing congestion. 1251 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 5: That's going to be huge for us. 1252 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 15: You know, we've been it's been a long time coming 1253 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 15: where we've done the widing, so we're, you know, slowly 1254 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 15: but surely getting there. It just takes time, and you know, 1255 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,959 Speaker 15: we appreciate everybody being patient while this work is taking place. 1256 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Well we appreciate you and what all of those people 1257 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: in those trucks and out there on those roads getting 1258 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 1: it done for us. And obviously it's difficult in the 1259 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: best of situations when you're out there working with cars 1260 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: moving quickly around you and not always necessarily slowing down. 1261 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: But in the winter it becomes even more treacherous and disconcerting. 1262 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Even for me in the vehicle driving by. When I 1263 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: see people, I kind of WinCE because that stuff shakes me. 1264 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: I've seen what happens on the other side of it 1265 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: when things go wrong and it's not good. So yeah, 1266 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: that's serious stuff. Anything before you let your bounce because 1267 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: you do such great work, and I know what we 1268 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: rip you through a whole bunch of stuff real fast there, 1269 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 1: but it's good information and we appreciate what you do. 1270 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: You know, make our lives easier. 1271 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 15: No, sir, No, I appreciate the chance to be able 1272 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 15: to talk about all things out and then you know, 1273 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 15: I tell everybody, I've been doing this a long time. 1274 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 5: I enjoy it. 1275 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 15: It's always fun to talk about it. And again I 1276 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 15: get to talk about it. I don't have to do 1277 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 15: any really hard work. 1278 01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 2: All the people that do all the hard work. 1279 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 15: They're the props too, because they're out there then, and 1280 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 15: women of the daughter are doing it every day. I 1281 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 15: talk about it, so I appreciate what they're doing because. 1282 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 5: They do the real work. Like I said, I get 1283 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 5: to talk about it. 1284 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 7: So that's. 1285 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1286 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 15: We've got a lot happening. So people should stay tuned 1287 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 15: and make sure that they check us out online transportation 1288 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 15: to ohio dot gov. 1289 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 5: You've got any. 1290 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 15: Comments for us feedback forms, you won't let us know 1291 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 15: about anything going on in your area. Again, get in 1292 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 15: touch with us and we'll be happy to answer your question. 1293 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: And og dot com is always fun watching those cameras. 1294 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: You can even look for like overhead like signage and 1295 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: the odd messages that I guess maybe some people that 1296 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: we may or may not know coming up with some 1297 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,840 Speaker 1: very nice jokes. 1298 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 15: Let's just say, well, you know, there is a process 1299 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 15: for everything that we do, and some people shall remain 1300 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 15: nameless again, process for everything we do, and there is 1301 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 15: an approval problem. 1302 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 5: We we don't need to mention him. 1303 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to know, but I will do. I'll 1304 01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: mention that. 1305 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 15: If you say his name three times, I'm gonna get 1306 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 15: some weird message from him tonight I don't. 1307 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Need that to No, no, no, I won't do that. 1308 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: We'll say bruning twice and just leave it there. He's 1309 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 1: no beetlejuice, that's for sure. All right, take care of yourself. 1310 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: She's the lovely, the talented, the well informed, getting it 1311 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: done for all of us. From ODUD, Cincinnati, the snow Queen. 1312 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Kathleen Fuller, thanks so much, take care of yourself. 1313 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 8: Thank you. 1314 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: We'll catch up again sooner than later. 1315 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Short on time, coming up on your eleven o'clock report, 1316 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I will come back. We're gonna revisit this whole situation 1317 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: with President Trump and that posting of that video with 1318 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: the Obama's former a president of Obama and the first 1319 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: lady looking like abes putting there using AI to do that, 1320 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: posting it and saying is it didn't make a mistake, 1321 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: not apologizing and in short, NICKI has been holding on forever. 1322 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,439 Speaker 1: Let's get to her and Fairfax. Give you a chance 1323 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: to sound off too. We'll go rapid fire the phones 1324 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: after the eleven o'clock report five three, seven, four, nine hundred, 1325 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: the big one, Nikki, thanks for holding What do you 1326 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: think about the president and that on a true social 1327 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: feed that was posted and then later after some twelve 1328 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: thirteen hours polled, Well. 1329 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 5: I know Mulligan's for him, he knows exactly what he does. 1330 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 16: In fact, when he first was informed about it's the 1331 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 16: press secretary they write, they doubled down on it and 1332 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 16: didn't make it sound like that there was anything wrong 1333 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 16: with his post. And that's a man who knows exactly 1334 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 16: what he wants to do. 1335 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,000 Speaker 5: And it even goes back. 1336 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 16: To what he posted on Rob Reiner, what he posted 1337 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 16: about when they had the king the No King's March 1338 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 16: and he had that picture of him flying a plane 1339 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 16: putting feces on the protesters. 1340 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 5: I mean, what is he is the leader of our country. 1341 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 16: Why in the world is he doing something so divisive 1342 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 16: in this country? And on top of this, what I'm 1343 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 16: going to say is that he's a man who he 1344 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 16: doesn't care what kind of press he gets, whether he's 1345 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 16: just as long as he's in the press, whether it's 1346 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 16: negative press or positive press, He's in the press, and 1347 01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 16: that's all that. 1348 01:05:59,360 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 5: Matters to that man. 1349 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's not really the image I wouldn't think that 1350 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: anyone would want for their business, let alone their family, 1351 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: let alone as an individual. 1352 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 2: And I can't make sense of it. Nikki. 1353 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call you're holding and what you bring 1354 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to the table, and hopefully you'll do it again. Thank 1355 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: you for being a part of the show and listening 1356 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: to well. Come back after your eleven o'clock report. Travis 1357 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Laird has an idea what's going on around planet Earth 1358 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and what's happening right here in the tri State that 1359 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: matters to you, yours and mine as well as Russ Jackson. 1360 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: He's keeping me on line and on time straight away. 1361 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred. 1362 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 2: The big one? 1363 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Is there something wrong with the president? Is he having 1364 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: mental difficulties? Is he messed up? Is he just an 1365 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: old racist bastard? 1366 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 4: Who? 1367 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 8: Who? 1368 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 2: And why would he post that? Why would he not apologize? 1369 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 8: And why? 1370 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 7: How? 1371 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 4: Is it? 1372 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Bewilderingly so many people want to go, oh, he didn't 1373 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 1: mean to do it, it's just who he is. It 1374 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 1: was an accident. Why apologize for some racist bs? It's 1375 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the nation station that you're listening to on a Friday night. 1376 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Sterling with your chance to be heard on the other 1377 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,479 Speaker 1: side of the news, Home of the reds Sterling seven 1378 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: hundred w WELW Cincinnati hit Down you got people looking 1379 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: to cash in on the horrible taking gone missing Savannah 1380 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Gunthrey's mom, Nancy from her FEMA County. 1381 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 2: Home to Arizona. 1382 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 1: So they got one guy who apparently looked to cash in, 1383 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: who may or may not have been connected. 1384 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: They don't think he was connected. They swept the house again. 1385 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: It's been all over the place looking around, and they 1386 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: have pulled something else off of the roof there in 1387 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 1: the midst of what looks like people have done things 1388 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: that were doctoring some of the surveillance insecurity system that 1389 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: had been put up around that property. Her looks like 1390 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: an idyllic place to live. Neighbors are nearby, not too close, 1391 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: tons of desert scape. I mean, it looks other than 1392 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: the fact that she was hoisted, looks like a great 1393 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: place to kick back, have a cup of coffee, and 1394 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: enjoy a more sunrise in that area. And you just 1395 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: hope to God that she is alive and well in 1396 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: the midst of this U and the people I was 1397 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: just talking to a Russ Jackson off the air about this. 1398 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: It is bewildering out of the woodwork. The load lifes 1399 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,640 Speaker 1: that come out to be like leeches and sucubus to 1400 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: try to cash in on this or at least to 1401 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,759 Speaker 1: interfere with the investigation, and they should be held accountable legally, 1402 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: not just morally. That's between them and you know, the 1403 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Lord above or whatever they may or may not believe in, 1404 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: which clearly they don't have a lot of class and 1405 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,799 Speaker 1: decency for doing it. And that's not even the individual 1406 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: or individuals apparently involved with this abduction as well. So 1407 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: that is in the news that could arguably be topic 1408 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: A to topic B, depending aside from the Super Bowl, 1409 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: and of course the other thing that is. I mean, 1410 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I've been inundated with mail on this and messages at 1411 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Stirling Radio one X. You can pick up the phone 1412 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and give it the finger five point three seven four 1413 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: nine seven eight hundred, the big one. You can talk 1414 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: back on the iHeartRadio app if you're dreaming there, click 1415 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: on the microphone and leave a message. We'll dip into 1416 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 1: that and you know, you can sort of see ex 1417 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 1: Sterling Radio on X as well as where I'm at, 1418 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 1: the President of the United States, our president, leader of 1419 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: the free world. Well, you think is fairly busy trying 1420 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: to like, you know, handle global issues, trying to keep 1421 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: US at peace and navigate stuff with Iran and Russia 1422 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: and China, and to deal with the economic issues and 1423 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: everything else. Late at night Thursday, apparently he had time, 1424 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the President did to post an ai doctor video put 1425 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: together basically showing former President Obama and First Lady Michelle 1426 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Obama as apes, and that was on his truth social feed. 1427 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: It was deleted twelve hours or so later, early part 1428 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 1: of today, after is spokesperson was like, you know, defending 1429 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it in some fashion. I don't know how you could 1430 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:18,759 Speaker 1: defend it. She explained it and defended the video, slammed 1431 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 1: the so called fake outrage earlier today, and I'm sort 1432 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: of taken back by that. I can't imagine this is earlier. 1433 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: And I'll give you a chance to sound off. I 1434 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: don't know what you think I mean. Is this presidential behavior? 1435 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: Is this the moral I'm gonna say moral because it 1436 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: clearly it's lacking in morality in my opinion, but certainly 1437 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: maybe the mental decline of the president. And what I 1438 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 1: mean by that is no one reasonable rational saying any 1439 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: brand man. Can you imagine if anyone here at the 1440 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Big One posted something like that on our social media feeds, 1441 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: how quickly Mama, I heart, and the suit and tie 1442 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: C suite types here along Montgomery Road where I sit 1443 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: right now, would be involved with firing us, sending us 1444 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: into a meeting to show how we could maybe benefit 1445 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: for some education and understanding and sensitivity and the hurtfulness 1446 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: and the hatefulness of something like that, and how that 1447 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,799 Speaker 1: would be taken by anyone, let alone someone of darker 1448 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 1: skin than myself. And you know, I just want to 1449 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: can you defend this for the president? Does it make 1450 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: sense to you? Are you proud of our president for 1451 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: doing this? Does it make sense to you? He doesn't 1452 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: apologize for anything. I don't think he's ever really admitted 1453 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: to making a mistake, other than maybe occasionally hiring someone 1454 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: who has been a bad person as they came out 1455 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: and talked bad about him in decisions he's made. I 1456 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 1: want every president to do well. Let me just clarify this, 1457 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: because anytime you say anything credit you know, critical of 1458 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: this president, people come out of the woodwork and say 1459 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 1: that you're not conservative or your anti Trump, You got 1460 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:09,879 Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. 1461 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. 1462 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm an equal opportunity offender. If someone here did it, 1463 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: if some of my family had done this, if somebody 1464 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: else in the spotlight had done this, We're talking about 1465 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: the sitting president, the leader of the free world, who, somehow, 1466 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 1: in the midst of all the other responsibilities and all 1467 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: the other work that the president has to do, had 1468 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: time to come up with it, had time to share, it, 1469 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 1: had time to take the flag for it, had time 1470 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: for lawmakers across both aisles, or the aisle, I should say, 1471 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: from both so called parties, not very party like at 1472 01:12:53,960 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 1: this point, and to have people like my Turner who 1473 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: now represents after the redrawn districting issue, congressman out of 1474 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Dayton but now has a Middletown and Trenton is a 1475 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 1: part of it because they redrew the lines, you know. 1476 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: And he basically came out and says he doesn't feel 1477 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: the need to respond to every inflammatory statement made by 1478 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: the White House. However, the release of racist images of 1479 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: former President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama's offensive, heartbreaking unacceptable. 1480 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: President Trump should apologize. 1481 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 2: Do you think he should? That's from his post. 1482 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I think that was on x also or Twitter, call 1483 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 1: it what you want in choir also posted it too 1484 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: at Cincinnati dot com. Look, everybody wants the president to 1485 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: do well. But I'm just taken back. I've had a 1486 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: couple of friends tell me, oh, he didn't mean it 1487 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: has somebody else. I'm very to tell me, it's very 1488 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: interesting in this says, well, somebody else probably posted for it. 1489 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 2: Who do you think that is? 1490 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,679 Speaker 1: His underling would have the stones, the war votes, the balls, 1491 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the gumption, the gall to post something that would put 1492 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: him in an ugly light for the wrath of Trump 1493 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 1: or anyone else supporting him. And I scratched my head 1494 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 1: and go, no, he himself has said he is the 1495 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: only one responsible for what's posted there. He himself said 1496 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: he didn't make a mistake, but they took it down. 1497 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Is it a problem or is it okay? Or is 1498 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it just well, that's who he is. It's like that 1499 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,719 Speaker 1: uncle in that room upstairs, nobody likes to talk about. 1500 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 1: As you were a kid growing up, they told you 1501 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,720 Speaker 1: to stay away from because he might diddle you or 1502 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: something like that, that weird uncle five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 1503 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. Instead he puts, you know, 1504 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 1: he leads the free world. What's our men and women 1505 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 1: in harm's way? At his order? At his he has 1506 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: he's the president. Hey, how did the Big One talk back? 1507 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio out, iHeartRadio app. Thank you, click on the microphone 1508 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: to white Oak. 1509 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:19,600 Speaker 2: I tried to. 1510 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: My brain's working faster than I can actually verbalize it. Charlie, 1511 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,560 Speaker 1: thank you for holding. It's your turn with Sterling on 1512 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the Big One. Are you able to defend this? Does 1513 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 1: this make sense to you? What do you think about 1514 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: this post, this president in this circumstance and what's going on? 1515 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 2: If anything, I was a. 1516 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 10: Little upset about it, and then some Facebook things popped up. 1517 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 10: Have you seen the entire video? 1518 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 1: I've seen I don't know how much of it. And 1519 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: then the ending, of course, where they're they're like. 1520 01:15:53,960 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 10: There's like twenty Democrat politicians, governors, senators, ex Presidents Hill 1521 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:10,759 Speaker 10: and Hillary, Kamala and Biden, and they're all as jungle animals, 1522 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 10: not just the Obama's right, and there's and they're playing 1523 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 10: that and the Jungle the Lion sleeps the Night and 1524 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,520 Speaker 10: great Song and Trumps the Trumps. 1525 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 7: The the Lion. 1526 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 10: But I was just saying, this was posted back in October, right, 1527 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 10: So I wasn't this. 1528 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 2: I don't know anything back in October. Maybe it was 1529 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 2: overlooked or missed. 1530 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't recall seeing it or hearing about it going 1531 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 1: back a couple of months, but I can tell you 1532 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 1: that it was posted to last night and then the 1533 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: pulled away early on. My question is this, So tell 1534 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: me this though, So you do recognize that doing that 1535 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: with someone of darker skin African Americans, black, let alone 1536 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the former president in first lady, that that's sort of 1537 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: a racist trope and something that's been dropped out there 1538 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 1: into marginalizing and and really hateful type of stuff going 1539 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 1: on for as long as we've been alive and more. 1540 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 2: Yes, well. 1541 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 10: It's this an h it's I say, I don want 1542 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,679 Speaker 10: to say defending thing, but it's it's like the political 1543 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 10: environment with the Nazis and. 1544 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 9: The fascists and uh, you know all that stuff. 1545 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 10: Going back and forth with with making comments about each 1546 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 10: other that's been going on since wasn't it's been Trump? 1547 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 10: I mean, if you didn't know what Trump was when 1548 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,720 Speaker 10: you voted for him, then you you've been living in 1549 01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 10: your closet or whatever, because you know, after seeing him 1550 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 10: on his on his TV shows and stuff, and so 1551 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 10: do you think that's just who he is for I 1552 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 10: didn't vote for him. 1553 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 13: I didn't vote for him. 1554 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 10: The first time and the second time. I didn't vote 1555 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 10: for anybody do anything, either one of us or voting 1556 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,839 Speaker 10: for But then all the the try the impeachments and stuff, 1557 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 10: and it just. 1558 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Man, it's been a lot the last ten the last years. 1559 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: It's been tough the last ten years. I mean, there's 1560 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 1: been a lot of murkiness, you know, to say the least, 1561 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,679 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 1562 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been more it's about the more about talking 1563 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 10: bad about each other and then talkings that are talking 1564 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 10: about the issues. 1565 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 7: That need to be addressed. 1566 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Man, I would think, and Charlie, I appreciate the comment. 1567 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for holding I know you were trying to 1568 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 1: get through earlier too, so I appreciate it and a 1569 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,680 Speaker 1: good perspective. I just would think that the president of 1570 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: the United States would have something better to do, let alone, 1571 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: something maybe better to share. Could be wrong to Covington 1572 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 1: and Zach and then Ron and room for you would 1573 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: like to hear from the ladies as well, what do 1574 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: you think about the president's post? If I've went three 1575 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,599 Speaker 1: some four, nine, seven, eight hundred, the big one? Zach, 1576 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: what's up man? 1577 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:53,600 Speaker 2: How are you. 1578 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 6: Dan? 1579 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 4: You doing? 1580 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 2: I'm good, buddy, what's up? 1581 01:18:58,920 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1582 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,640 Speaker 14: So you know, there's kind of piggybacking off what you 1583 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 14: were saying. You know, I'm from like, you know, the 1584 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 14: younger generation, you know, mid twenties, and you know, I've 1585 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 14: better for Donald Donald Trump, and I don't know, it 1586 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 14: doesn't make much sense to me, you. 1587 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:12,880 Speaker 8: Know, saying what he's saying. 1588 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,560 Speaker 14: You know, I hardly believe the main problem with this 1589 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 14: country now is you're Republican or your Democrat. 1590 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 7: And what I hear from the younger generation, you. 1591 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 17: Didn't used to really be like that, you know, it 1592 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,400 Speaker 17: was you know, what are your views truly and now 1593 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,000 Speaker 17: it's you. 1594 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,760 Speaker 14: Know, you're picking one side and it's causing the whole 1595 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 14: boat lot of problems. 1596 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 7: And you know, it is what it is. 1597 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 1: It's an unfortunate thing what you just described. And for 1598 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk to some friends and their 1599 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: kids and stuff, and makes them a sour on the 1600 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: whole process, which is unfortunate. But in general, Zach, I'm 1601 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 1: curious sitting president of the United States, or anyone who's 1602 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: held that office for that matter, coming out and having 1603 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: that attitude and that type of thing to share as 1604 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: a role model for the nation, for the world. 1605 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,680 Speaker 2: In fact, does that make you feel good about who's in. 1606 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 7: Office or no, I mean you know, like I mean no, 1607 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 7: I mean it's hard. 1608 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 14: You know, when you would you believe, you know, in 1609 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,040 Speaker 14: certain things that he's doing, you know, certain policies and 1610 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 14: you know, things that you know Republicans are pushing for whatever. 1611 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,600 Speaker 6: It's harder to defend when you see stuff like this, 1612 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 6: you know, it really is, so. 1613 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 14: I don't know, it kind of degrades everything else that 1614 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 14: he's doing good. 1615 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's tough. 1616 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 2: It's frustrating to say the least. 1617 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 6: Do you think that. 1618 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,880 Speaker 1: There is a way for him to make good on this? 1619 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you think he should apologize? I mean if it 1620 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 1: was your parent or my parent, I mean, would you 1621 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: want your parent to I'm not saying the presidents like 1622 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 1: our parent, but to kind of are like the godfather 1623 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: for one of a better way to say it, of 1624 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 1: the nation, which you know, some would argue that that 1625 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 1: that maybe is sort of like the goal he has, 1626 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: but is an apology helpful? 1627 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 2: Should he apologize? 1628 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,439 Speaker 9: Do you think? I mean? 1629 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean absolutely, I said the same thing when 1630 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 6: he was doing debates and. 1631 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 14: His last like when he was running for the election 1632 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 14: the last time, all he had to do was kind 1633 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 14: of like acknowledge the fact that certain things are going 1634 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 14: wrong in the conjurie at the time. He never did, 1635 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 14: you know, it's I don't know, hot like have some accountability, you. 1636 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 9: Know, he like what you said, like he said in 1637 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 9: the past that he has. 1638 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 14: Oversea, like he kind of runs the account I don't know, 1639 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 14: kind of come out and say and the fact that 1640 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 14: this is wrong. 1641 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 7: But he won't, you know, But I don't know. 1642 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 1: You just hope somebody would be just a better person 1643 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: just in general, you know what I mean. And it's tough, 1644 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: Zach ay Man. I appreciate you listening, being a part 1645 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: of the show. 1646 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I hope you call back. 1647 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:38,759 Speaker 9: Absolutely. 1648 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,880 Speaker 2: You take man, take care of yourself. Appreciate it. 1649 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 1: Got a time for a couple of more. Let's get 1650 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: to Levin and Ron and then Jack and then coming 1651 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 1: up by the way, Mikey Wall from space dot Com 1652 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: after Travis Laird and the eleven third or your four 1653 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: but that's a down the road. 1654 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 2: Ron, what's up, man? How are you? What do you 1655 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,560 Speaker 2: think about the president into this video post and all that. 1656 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 5: I don't know that much. 1657 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 8: About it, but I heard you just describe it, and 1658 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 8: I'm not sure you've seen all of it. 1659 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,720 Speaker 2: How much does one need to see? Though? 1660 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't see how any of that with them the 1661 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: portrayed in that fashion is acceptable. I mean, I think 1662 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: it's just some low rent, trash racist bs. 1663 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:21,680 Speaker 8: Personally, would you agree that Obama led everything against the CIA, 1664 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 8: against Trump, that he was in leadership and he has 1665 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 8: done all these things to Trump to try to keep 1666 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,560 Speaker 8: him from office and killing. 1667 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 1: Well Ron, First of all, Obama hasn't been president for 1668 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: ten years plus. 1669 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 8: Secondly, it was eight years plus four he was a president. 1670 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 16: Ron. 1671 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 17: No, No, he was not. 1672 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. 1673 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's ridiculous, and I appreciate the call, Ron, 1674 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: but see, that's part of the problem. You're gonna blame Obama, 1675 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: who's been out of office for sixteen years effectively almost 1676 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: ten years, I should say, And then you had Biden 1677 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 1: who beat Trump in between now his second term to now, 1678 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: and you're gonna somehow blame Obama for the post that 1679 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Trump did portraying them as apes. I mean, you know 1680 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 1: the mental gymnastics that people have to do to somehow 1681 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 1: come up with some type of apology and point the 1682 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: finger of blame for somebody who was victimized that's amazing. 1683 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 11: Jack. 1684 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 2: If your turn was sterling on the big one, you 1685 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 2: got about a minute go. 1686 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,560 Speaker 9: Brother, Yeah, you've just summed it up here in the 1687 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 9: last step at two minutes. You would hope the president 1688 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 9: would be a better person. You would hope that it 1689 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 9: would be a much better example setter. You're so right 1690 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 9: when it comes down to a question about Trump. Even 1691 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 9: those who are brainwashed and say they love Donald Trump 1692 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 9: cannot stick up for him. Their argument is criticizing somebody else. 1693 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 9: Just as you've described here the last few minutes, what 1694 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 9: Trump did at eleven pm or at midnight, it's par 1695 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 9: for the course. He's built his campaign for years on 1696 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,760 Speaker 9: trying to divide the country into segments that way he 1697 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 9: can beat it down. He does it by sexism, bigotry, hats, fear, 1698 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 9: and what he does overnight on social media is just 1699 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 9: an extension of all of that. That's all I've got 1700 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 9: to say. 1701 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jack Gotsalini, a man. Thank you, 1702 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 1: And you know, I'd like to be able to say 1703 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,640 Speaker 1: good things. And there are good things policy wise that 1704 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: have happened, some good things that have gone on, but 1705 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 1: it gets lost in all this crap. You can hear 1706 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,439 Speaker 1: the flushing sounds of the crap going down the tube. Now, 1707 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 1: it's amazing, you're eleven third of reports straight away. Travis 1708 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Laird knows what's going on. He will disseminate quantities of 1709 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 1: news to feed our minds. And then Mike Dwallspace dot 1710 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: Com joins me to talk about I know it's shocking. 1711 01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Russ Jackson is going to be uh space stuff after 1712 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the news here for Sterling seven hundred WULW astronaut at 1713 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 1: least one anyway on that International Space Station, not necessarily gravely, 1714 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 1: but they had to come back early, so they've been 1715 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 1: low on staff up there, looking down on us like 1716 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 1: we're just a little, you know, marble in the sky 1717 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 1: or something like that. Sterling seven hundred WLW back on 1718 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 1: the Nation Station. Mike d Wall is a space flight 1719 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,760 Speaker 1: and tech channel editor for space dot Com. 1720 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Big One. How are you? How's everything? 1721 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 10: Man? 1722 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 9: Oh? 1723 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 13: Doing good? 1724 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:42,400 Speaker 4: How are you doing? 1725 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I'm excited and I'm not even 1726 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 1: going to space. Did I see this correct? That they 1727 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 1: have okayed now everything to get that Falcon nine rocket 1728 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: back up into apparently bringing I think it was the 1729 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: twelfth crew up to the International Space Station this coming week. 1730 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 17: Yes, the yeah, yeah, the FAA had had grounded the 1731 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 17: Falcon IM for about four days. It had an issue 1732 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 17: during a launch on Monday, which which went okay, you know, 1733 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 17: it got it was it was it was like a 1734 01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 17: launch that that got some some guess of like SpaceX's 1735 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 17: that it's they're they're like starlingk statellites went up and 1736 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,679 Speaker 17: that that all went fine. But the that the rocket 1737 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 17: didn't do it's the orbit burn as planned. So it's 1738 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,639 Speaker 17: just that was it was a problem with the upper 1739 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 17: stage and so the fa man died an investigation to 1740 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 17: see what happened, and and then yeah, so it was 1741 01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 17: grounded for like four days. But that's that's all been 1742 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 17: taken care of now and it's it's back and it's 1743 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,839 Speaker 17: like ready to launch on on this coming Wednesday. 1744 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:41,840 Speaker 2: Actually nice. 1745 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Now how long does it take? I'm always mystified by 1746 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,679 Speaker 1: this because you know, we're young enough to have missed 1747 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 1: like that, you know, astronauts, So going to the Moon 1748 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,599 Speaker 1: initially and how the whole world basically stopped the watch 1749 01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,280 Speaker 1: and I think it was today if I'm not mistaken. 1750 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 1: They actually played golf on the Moon back in the day. 1751 01:26:58,720 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 1: As well. 1752 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,080 Speaker 17: Right, yeah, I think so that sounds about right. 1753 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1754 01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 1: So so how long once they launch does it take 1755 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 1: because they don't just like fly directly, Like if I'm 1756 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: going from here to Chipotle, I'm on the way, it's 1757 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 1: not quite the same going to the space station. 1758 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 17: Yeah, it's it's gonna take it. There are kind of 1759 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 17: different routes, and it like depends when you launch, and 1760 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,640 Speaker 17: there's there's like a quick route that you can get 1761 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 17: there in like like I don't know, three to four 1762 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,120 Speaker 17: hours like that. Like you see that with some of 1763 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,640 Speaker 17: the Soviet launches or in the olden days, as some 1764 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 17: of the Russian launches. Today you can get up there 1765 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,400 Speaker 17: with just like you can catch up to the space 1766 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 17: station within like two orbits of Earth basically each and 1767 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,800 Speaker 17: like each orbit takes about ninety minutes, but it's more 1768 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,559 Speaker 17: common for SpaceX they actually usually do a trajectory where 1769 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 17: they catch up in like six hours. Okay, so yeah, 1770 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 17: they'll they'll they'll sort of orbit Earth about four times 1771 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,640 Speaker 17: and then get there within six hours or so. 1772 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Mike dy Wall by the way, from space dot Com. 1773 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 1: With Sterling on the big one, there's been some scheduling. 1774 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 1: They're going to do a moonshot. That basically is, these 1775 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,640 Speaker 1: astronauts are getting to the International Space Station shortly thereafter. Right, 1776 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: that massive Artemis two rocket is expected to be going 1777 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: sooner than later up and sort of looping around the 1778 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: mood in preparation for getting back to that big of 1779 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 1: the thing up there that sort of keeps our oceans moving, right. 1780 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 17: Yeah, so that's a little bit more kind of we 1781 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 17: aren't quite sure what's happening with the Artemis two mission. 1782 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 17: They're currently targeting early in March for that launch, and yeah, 1783 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 17: that's gonna be a really big deal. That's it's gonna go. 1784 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 4: It'll be the. 1785 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,960 Speaker 17: First mission with astronauts on board to go to the 1786 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,759 Speaker 17: realm of the moons. It's Apollo seventeen back in nineteen 1787 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 17: seventy two. They aren't gonna orbit the Moon or land 1788 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,719 Speaker 17: on the Moon. They're going to do like a fly around, 1789 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 17: like sort of a fly by, and they'll use the 1790 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 17: Moon's gravity to sort of sling shot themselves back to Earth. 1791 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,719 Speaker 17: So yeah, but that's we don't know yet. There hasn't 1792 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 17: been an official target dat amounts. They were they were 1793 01:28:56,080 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 17: actually targeting this this weekend like originally, but they but 1794 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,840 Speaker 17: they did a fueling test like about a week ago 1795 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,680 Speaker 17: and found some there. They're like, like, there is a 1796 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 17: leak with the rocket that they would with repellent in 1797 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,880 Speaker 17: the rocket that they're trying to fix, and so they're 1798 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 17: gonna they're gonna do another fueling test probably in the 1799 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,599 Speaker 17: coming week or so and see if they fix the leak, 1800 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 17: and if they have, then they'll probably target early March 1801 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 17: for that mission, which will be Yeah, it'll be like 1802 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 17: it'll be a really big deal and it'll be the 1803 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 17: first astronaut flight of the Space Launch System rocket, that 1804 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 17: giant new Moon rocket, and if everything goes well with 1805 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 17: that mission, then they'll gear up for a Moon landing 1806 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 17: mission in like twenty twenty eight or so. 1807 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty amazing. Mike d. 1808 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Walls of space Flight and Techa Channel letter for space 1809 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 1: dot Com was Stirling on the big one? Has anyone 1810 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 1: else actually been on the Moon? I mean, would China 1811 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: did a while back on the side that's sort of obscured, right, 1812 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: that was not actual like human beings on there, that 1813 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,479 Speaker 1: was like a rover or something or Am I wrong? 1814 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1815 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 17: No, it would like, yeah, they were the first ones 1816 01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 17: to land any kind of spacecraft on the lunar far 1817 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 17: side that it was, Yeah, like it was a robotic 1818 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,680 Speaker 17: land there. The only people to have ever land on 1819 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 17: the Moon. There there have been a total of twelve 1820 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,200 Speaker 17: people to walk on the Moon and they were off 1821 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:13,200 Speaker 17: the Apollo program from the late sixties to the early seventies. 1822 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 17: So yeah, we haven't even sent anybody beyond lower orbit 1823 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 17: since nineteen seventy two. 1824 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 2: That's an amazing thing. And Mike, I'm kind of curious. 1825 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,560 Speaker 1: So the idea is get back to the Moon and 1826 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,760 Speaker 1: then as we've discussed before, apparently maybe having a moon 1827 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: base of sorts, like a almost like a hub at 1828 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 1: an airport where you would then get to the next place, 1829 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,200 Speaker 1: whether it's Mars or or wherever else and doing whatever 1830 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:38,560 Speaker 1: else they set out to do. 1831 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 1832 01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,880 Speaker 17: Yeah, So that's the main difference between the Apollo program 1833 01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 17: and what MASSA is doing now with this new Artist program. 1834 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,120 Speaker 17: Like the Apollo program was all about beating the Soviet 1835 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 17: Union to the Moon as a show of sort of 1836 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 17: technological superiority during the Cold War, this is sort of 1837 01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 17: more to do a space race with China, but it 1838 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 17: still has has different aims. Like the Artemis program wants 1839 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 17: to set up a moon base. You know, like the 1840 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,120 Speaker 17: Apollo astronauts didn't really do anything on them and they 1841 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 17: didn't build anything. There were no habitats on the Moon. 1842 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,559 Speaker 17: They just landed and they took some rocks and did 1843 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 17: some science work and then went home. 1844 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 1: I just love the way they just played some golf, 1845 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,080 Speaker 1: they took some rocks, they got some sand, you know, 1846 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they were just sort of like there for them. 1847 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,639 Speaker 1: It was like me going to spring break the first 1848 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,000 Speaker 1: time without a hangover again. 1849 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 17: Yeah, and that's that's not what the science they did. 1850 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 17: We're still learning stuff about the Moon from the Apollo 1851 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,639 Speaker 17: samples all these years later. 1852 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 1853 01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,920 Speaker 17: That kind of rock collecting wasn't was really valuable stuff. 1854 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 17: But what, yeah, what Artemist wants to do is much 1855 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:47,000 Speaker 17: more ambitious. They actually want to set up one or 1856 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 17: more bases near the moon South Pole, where there's a 1857 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 17: lot to be a lot of water ice in the 1858 01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 17: craters and the floors of craters there that's been building 1859 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 17: up for like four and a half billion years because 1860 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:59,519 Speaker 17: it's some constant shadow. And they yeah, they basically want 1861 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,760 Speaker 17: to to take a crack at like real offer of 1862 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,240 Speaker 17: living on another world and if they're able to do 1863 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 17: that in the twenty thirties. Then the thinking is, Okay, 1864 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 17: now we know how to do it, we'll try it 1865 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,879 Speaker 17: out on the Moon, and then we'll take that knowledge 1866 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,519 Speaker 17: and take it even farther afield to Mars. And that's 1867 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,280 Speaker 17: sort of that's the Gold Masses working on like sort 1868 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 17: of like a moon to Mars. That's like that kind 1869 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,840 Speaker 17: of program where you take what you learn at the 1870 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,479 Speaker 17: Moon where which is only about three days away from Earth, 1871 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 17: and there's some kind of wiggle room if something goes wrong, 1872 01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,720 Speaker 17: you can can maybe get back to Earth and time, 1873 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 17: or you can like resupply them and stuff like that. 1874 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,240 Speaker 17: But you like, you really want to get all those 1875 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 17: kings worked out before you try to do something like 1876 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,280 Speaker 17: that on Mars, which takes like sixty eight months to 1877 01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:41,600 Speaker 17: get to. 1878 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fairly dedicated endeavor, it's not. And I 1879 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 1: think I've taken longer to drive across the country than 1880 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about to get to you know elsewhere. 1881 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Now off the Terra Firma, which is an amazing thought 1882 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 1: to me, and without stopping to go to the bathroom, 1883 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,320 Speaker 1: And how do they handle that? I always get people 1884 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,840 Speaker 1: who ask me and then I'm reluctant to say because 1885 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I think I know, but how does that work? It 1886 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 1: all goes back to that that one astronaut who decided 1887 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,680 Speaker 1: to tear off across the country and have a domestic problem. 1888 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, well that that that that's a famous instance 1889 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,400 Speaker 17: where where where she had like like on the diapers 1890 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 17: and everything. She was going to do a stakeout on 1891 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 17: this guy that she liked. Yeah, that that was you know, 1892 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 17: that was a mental health issue. But yeah, I mean 1893 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,760 Speaker 17: going going to space, you know, I mean like the 1894 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 17: Artemic's two astronauts are going to have like a like 1895 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,800 Speaker 17: they'll have a toilet in the Orion capsule. It's it's 1896 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 17: not it's based on the International Space Station toilet actually, 1897 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 17: which was basically there's like a kind of there's a 1898 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 17: seat you sit on and there's a canister where you 1899 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 17: do your number two's, and there's no gravity that kind 1900 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 17: of to help it go down, but there's like a 1901 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,640 Speaker 17: fan that's it like goes down via section and then 1902 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,639 Speaker 17: for for like number ones, there's like a little pose 1903 01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 17: that you use with like a funnel on the ends 1904 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 17: that like, yeah, it's like that also uses airflow to yeah, 1905 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,360 Speaker 17: to direct It's just one of those things though, Like 1906 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,800 Speaker 17: we just take things for granted how they work on Earth. 1907 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,559 Speaker 17: But given something as basically as going to the bathroom, 1908 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,439 Speaker 17: if you don't have gravity to help the stuff go 1909 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,479 Speaker 17: or you want to go, it could get ugly pretty 1910 01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 17: quickly if you haven't planned out how to deal with it. 1911 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 17: But yeah, yeah, I mean luckily, NASA has got lots 1912 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,200 Speaker 17: of smart people and they they they long ago figured 1913 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 17: out how how to do bathroom stuff in space. Although 1914 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,920 Speaker 17: like the Apollo astronauts just they basically pooped into into 1915 01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 17: plastic bags in the Apollo capsule, oh. 1916 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 1: Loot bag in it like on a tour bus. No 1917 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 1: one does number two on a tour bus if you 1918 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,200 Speaker 1: can avoid it. That's just not good. I'm telling you. 1919 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Mike Ywall from space dot Com was stirling on the 1920 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 1: big one. I mean sanitation issues. That is like at 1921 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 1: the top of the list. You think about that, but 1922 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's the really what has helped us have 1923 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:57,160 Speaker 1: a society and a modern world is sanitation, water, sewage, 1924 01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,439 Speaker 1: all these things. But up there out there totally different animal. 1925 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: I just immediately think of the industrial accident. If things 1926 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 1: go wrong with that funnel that you talked about and 1927 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: what a horrible accident and then have to explain to 1928 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,800 Speaker 1: the wife or whatever when you come back there was 1929 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: a problem. 1930 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,040 Speaker 2: Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. 1931 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean these sorts of things, these little 1932 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,439 Speaker 17: basic things make a big difference when you're talking about 1933 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 17: going to Mars right with Like, if like you don't 1934 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,560 Speaker 17: have those things figured out, then going to Mars for 1935 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,920 Speaker 17: a year mission, like a year and a half, two years, 1936 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,519 Speaker 17: maybe that's going to be like a living hell. Yeah, 1937 01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,400 Speaker 17: if you don't have like your your space and your 1938 01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 17: like every every little thing worked out that they like, 1939 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 17: they will work hard to get the food right too, 1940 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,599 Speaker 17: because you know, those those little comforts are so important 1941 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 17: psychologically for people who are were isolated, who are away 1942 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,320 Speaker 17: from their loved ones and all that stuff like that's 1943 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,840 Speaker 17: that's a really big deal. Like the ability to have 1944 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,720 Speaker 17: a few creature comforts with you when you're you're there 1945 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 17: could make the difference between being happy and healthy and 1946 01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,719 Speaker 17: kind of going crazy. 1947 01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think of the need for 1948 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,000 Speaker 1: for breeze because we've talked about the lovely scent in 1949 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 1: space in the you know, the the ISS, which is 1950 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 1: the International Space Station for those who are acronymically challenged. 1951 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the acronym. 1952 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 6: Uh. 1953 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:13,840 Speaker 1: Something else I want to ask about this because I 1954 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 1: find this interesting. We've talked about budget stuff and about 1955 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,799 Speaker 1: the concern from a lot of scientists, engineers, people involved 1956 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 1: with everything that is doing the stuff that we've been 1957 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,800 Speaker 1: discussing tonight and for some time talking to you, Mike 1958 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 1: D Wall from space dot com. Uh, did I read 1959 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 1: correctly that there was an announcement by the administrator of NASA, Isaacman, 1960 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 1: talking about wanting to hire more people after they had 1961 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,640 Speaker 1: gotten rid of some, but trying to bring them in 1962 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 1: house rather than like subcontractors or something. 1963 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1964 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 17: He he like just put out something today talking about 1965 01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 17: plans for the future, and it was it was pretty 1966 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,880 Speaker 17: good news. Basically, like we we like value our engineers 1967 01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 17: and we want to get more talented not not more 1968 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,840 Speaker 17: talented people, but more Yeah, there mee more people who 1969 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 17: are talented into the fold. And it sort of follows 1970 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 17: on from from other good news that we got from Congress. 1971 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,040 Speaker 17: If you're a space fan, it was good news. I 1972 01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:16,759 Speaker 17: mean they like basically reversed what like the White House's 1973 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,400 Speaker 17: budget cuts for NASA. He had he had cut NASSA 1974 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 17: by about twenty five percent in the Yeah, the budget request, 1975 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,400 Speaker 17: the federal budget requests, but basically Congress said, no, we 1976 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,439 Speaker 17: don't want to cut NASSA by that much at all. 1977 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,799 Speaker 17: So they so they basically approved like a flat budget 1978 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,880 Speaker 17: for NASSA big from from last year to this year. 1979 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,120 Speaker 17: So those cuts were basically reversed by by Congress. And 1980 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 17: so those deep cuts that I think we've talked about 1981 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,439 Speaker 17: a couple of times on past shows, where there was 1982 01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,120 Speaker 17: going to be this possibility or like the likelihood if 1983 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 17: the White House budget cuts went through, the NASA would 1984 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,880 Speaker 17: have to basically end about forty missions, like including a 1985 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 17: lot of ones that are active right now at Mars 1986 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,360 Speaker 17: and beyond. Just shut those those probes down even though 1987 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,679 Speaker 17: they're they're actively collecting data that's probably not going to happen. 1988 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,360 Speaker 17: So that's all in the last month or so that 1989 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:03,800 Speaker 17: that stuff got firmed up. 1990 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Well, listen, we always appreciate you being generous with 1991 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,679 Speaker 1: your time, and I know that you're on the road 1992 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,000 Speaker 1: now into driving safely, hands free and still sounding good 1993 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,680 Speaker 1: and disseminating good information and knowledge about space stuff, which 1994 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,800 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't I don't think I could 1995 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,000 Speaker 1: do that. So that's why we look to you and 1996 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. I hope you enjoyed the weekend. You 1997 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:26,240 Speaker 1: got hoops and stuff with the kid this weekend or no, yeah, 1998 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:26,960 Speaker 1: we got we. 1999 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 17: Got baseball and basketball ends like football tomorrow, so that 2000 01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:30,920 Speaker 17: should be fun. 2001 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,719 Speaker 1: You've got it all going on. That's amazing, big Super weekend. 2002 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,840 Speaker 1: And because you live in the Bay or you're an 2003 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,720 Speaker 1: Ohio guy, but in the Bay Area you can still 2004 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 1: be playing baseball, you know, in the first week or 2005 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,760 Speaker 1: two in February. That's sick and wonderful all at the 2006 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,800 Speaker 1: same time. I'm not bitter and angry and jealous, No, 2007 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 1: not all. 2008 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,120 Speaker 17: Yeah, no, I'm still on the road because the traffic 2009 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 17: we were actually coming back from a basketball game, and 2010 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,600 Speaker 17: like the traffic with all the people to see the 2011 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,719 Speaker 17: Super Bowl and stuff, it's just out of control. So yeah, 2012 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 17: you just that's that's that's pretty much why I had 2013 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:03,559 Speaker 17: to take your call while I was in the car. 2014 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate it. I don't know that I 2015 01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 1: would have taken my call in that circumstance. I've driven 2016 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, in the Bay Area, Oakland area as well, 2017 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: and it can be painful, so thank you for navigating 2018 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:17,040 Speaker 1: that without like dropping random flying expletives because I'm that 2019 01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:18,599 Speaker 1: way when I'm alone in the car. 2020 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 2: But that's just me. 2021 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, enjoy the rest of your weekend. We'll catch 2022 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,320 Speaker 1: up again soon. It's Mike d. Wall from space dot com. 2023 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:29,680 Speaker 1: Take care of yourself, man, We'll do you too. 2024 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:29,840 Speaker 17: Man. 2025 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, absolutely, thank you for making time. He's a 2026 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:32,479 Speaker 2: good egg. 2027 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,439 Speaker 1: You know, I was talking about for Breeze and I'm 2028 01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,080 Speaker 1: thinking about that. You know what here iHeartMedia seven hundred WLW. 2029 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 1: You want to say, hey, hats off, show some love, 2030 01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,679 Speaker 1: salute Cincinnati's own Proctor and Gamble I mentioned for Breeze. 2031 01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:46,160 Speaker 1: If you've got someone I know, I do a good 2032 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,320 Speaker 1: number of people I know who do some work in 2033 01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,880 Speaker 1: and around p ANDNG in one way or another, and 2034 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,440 Speaker 1: you'd like us to show them some love and recognize 2035 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 1: them here on the air on the Big One. 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That's an 2044 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 1: x in and l if you're getting caught up on 2045 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,519 Speaker 1: your rooman numerals movie stuff, a whole lot of other 2046 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: is enough to get to on a Saturday, sterling. But 2047 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,599 Speaker 1: that's Minyana straight away the News. Thank you to Russ Jackson, 2048 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,800 Speaker 1: a lot of great calls tonight, good guest, and it's 2049 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:38,160 Speaker 1: time for. 2050 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 2: Me to exit stage left. 2051 01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 1: Here home of the Reds in the desert, getting it 2052 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: done and soon back on the big one because it's 2053 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 1: the home of the Reds. News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,