WEBVTT - Did Curiosity Kill The Vibes Between Caleb & Nadia? 

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<v Speaker 1>It's Marcus in the morning, and we're back with second

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<v Speaker 1>date update. Rounding out the week. We got to say

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<v Speaker 1>good morning to Caleb. Hello, Caleb, what's up? Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm good? Are you doing okay? What

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<v Speaker 1>with the ghosting and all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just one of those things where I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it right, and what I don't understand frustrates me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Nadia. So the note that I got

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<v Speaker 1>from you was that so you're eating in downtown Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Game it was sushi. How did the date unfold? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure out why she ghosted?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Well, first of all, the type of

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<v Speaker 2>sushi restaurant is like the kind where a small intimate plate,

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<v Speaker 2>like a fancy one where they're making it right in

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<v Speaker 2>front of two. And I thought it went really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Naughtiya looked great, like, she looked really really good and

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<v Speaker 2>looks hot, and you know, she was reading the entire

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<v Speaker 2>menu before ordering. She was very deliberate, and she asked

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, thoughtful questions about the fish, and she

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<v Speaker 2>just seemed very deliberate, which I like. Okay, we split

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of road from Tashimi, had a little sake

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<v Speaker 2>and then a walker you know, down the block to

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<v Speaker 2>her car and she thanked meate for dinner and it

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<v Speaker 2>was fine, you know, and then then nothing. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So literal full ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>Full ghost, no nothing, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do anything weird like forget how to use

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<v Speaker 1>chopsticks or not split the bill properly or.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we didn't. I comleted the bill, and I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pretty realistic about how things go, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it went really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, we're going to call her, you know this,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll have you on the line. You'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to hear it right from her.

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<v Speaker 3>And A.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to figure out why she goes to but

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<v Speaker 1>B like, let's hope for a second date. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we I don't want to say we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a second date for days, but it's been days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, go ahead and get in position. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call naughty and see why she ghosted on you. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get you a second date. So throw some

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<v Speaker 1>vibes into the universe. Here we go. Hello, Hi, is

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<v Speaker 1>this Nadia? Good morning Nadia. This is Marcus calling from

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<v Speaker 1>Star one on one three A right, Hi, Hi, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you good? Do you listen to the show?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Do you know about Second Date Update? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Great. I get to s vibe like you've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to me be on it for some reason. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna date until Marcus calls me, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you you want to be on Second Date Update?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet?

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<v Speaker 3>You might as well just bring kalem on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here, okay, Caleb are you there?

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<v Speaker 2>So here?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice? This is gonna be the most adulting we do

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<v Speaker 1>all day. You guys, So, Nadia, you know the drill

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<v Speaker 1>like Caleb Doug you it's a good first date, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>says you were and I quote hot, so we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>their baseline. But he's feeling like you ghosted. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got asked, did you ghost?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean I didn't really risk bond to him,

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<v Speaker 3>like when he texts it after and it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>anything dramatic happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>There was just two things that kind of stuck with

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<v Speaker 3>me that I haven't been able to kind of get past.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I've got my notepad out, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The first is Caleb has this habit that he told

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<v Speaker 3>me during dinner and he says that, like he mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>he times people and how long it takes them to

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<v Speaker 3>answer questions, not out loud, he just kind of clocks

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<v Speaker 3>it mentally. And he said he started doing it in

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<v Speaker 3>meetings to understand how confident people are in their answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I asked him if he does it outside

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<v Speaker 3>of work, and he said, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>By outside. Are you doing it right now like that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, and he said sometimes, and he said you

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<v Speaker 3>can learn a lot about people from pauses. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of when I realize he's been like watching me

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<v Speaker 3>super closely all night and like clocking every time I,

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<v Speaker 3>like I pause or answer something.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Caleb, that's weird. What are you doing? Why nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be made to feel like they're being I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, weirdly audited or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I usually don't tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but this time you did. You could see how

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<v Speaker 1>it could wear the lady out. Why do you do

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<v Speaker 1>this again?

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<v Speaker 2>Know that the longer someone takes to answer, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been studies on this, it shows that they're indecisive

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<v Speaker 2>or they're not sure of themselves. So when someone answers

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<v Speaker 2>very quick when with authority, they're just just generally like

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<v Speaker 2>more you know, more assertive, like an alpha. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>way alpha's answer questions. They're direct, they're fast, they really.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't they just be considered thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. But you know, what do you want to be?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be thought you want to be an alpha.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd like your lady to be in alpha as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I like an assertive woman. I like a woman

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<v Speaker 2>that knows what she wants. And you know, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you. That's what I saw. I liked what

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<v Speaker 2>I saw, so I don't know why I'm like naughtie.

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<v Speaker 2>I what I mean, you passed the test, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you passed the test.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not gonna look you guys. I should

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<v Speaker 1>probably shut up because I always talk about it on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, how I'm attracted to a woman. They could

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<v Speaker 1>take me in a fight, so I'm just gonna sit back.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just felt like I was being measured

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<v Speaker 3>all night, and that bothered me, you know, off the bat.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was the second thing that like really changed

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<v Speaker 3>the look.

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<v Speaker 1>He forgot there was something else do tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's like towards the end of dinner, our conversation

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<v Speaker 3>started turning, you know, to hobbies, and Caleb mentioned that

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<v Speaker 3>he collects things, and so I was like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you you know kind of things you colick? And he

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<v Speaker 3>said he keeps every single birthday card he's ever received,

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<v Speaker 3>but not in a sentimental box, in labeled binders, chronologically

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<v Speaker 3>organized and he said it helps him like track which

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<v Speaker 3>friendships stay CONSI same year after year. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>do you ever like review them? And he's like, yeah, occasionally,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good way to notice who falls off. Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just so weird to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like a grading system or what are we doing, Caleb.

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<v Speaker 2>I can really get a great idea of how good

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<v Speaker 2>of a friend someone values me as you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to value somebody as a friend that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't value me the same way. Basically, I have three binders.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an expired friends binder, and then the middle

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<v Speaker 2>binders those are like pretty good friends, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>have my all stars, like these are the friends that

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<v Speaker 2>give me really good cards, and yeah, they just set

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<v Speaker 2>themselves apart.

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<v Speaker 1>And expired friends binder.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so unsettling.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, I think you're really

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<v Speaker 2>overreacting here.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I mean honestly, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>yours because.

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<v Speaker 1>Has entered the chat. Uh you guys, hang on one second,

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, Nadia, Yes, I'm so sorry. I don't nah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not your guy. Yeah, thank you for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and go. I appreciate you listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome and hang on. What is it? Just quirky habits? Week?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? What's happening? And second date update? If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to catch up from the week. Uh. There is

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