Speaker 1: It's Marcus in the morning, and we're back with second
Speaker 1: date update. Rounding out the week. We got to say
Speaker 1: good morning to Caleb. Hello, Caleb, what's up? Hey man,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? Are you doing okay? What
Speaker 1: with the ghosting and all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one of those things where I don't
Speaker 2: get it right, and what I don't understand frustrates me.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Nadia. So the note that I got
Speaker 1: from you was that so you're eating in downtown Berlin.
Speaker 1: Game it was sushi. How did the date unfold? Let's
Speaker 1: try to figure out why she ghosted?
Speaker 2: First of all, Well, first of all, the type of
Speaker 2: sushi restaurant is like the kind where a small intimate plate,
Speaker 2: like a fancy one where they're making it right in
Speaker 2: front of two. And I thought it went really well.
Speaker 2: Naughtiya looked great, like, she looked really really good and
Speaker 2: looks hot, and you know, she was reading the entire
Speaker 2: menu before ordering. She was very deliberate, and she asked
Speaker 2: the you know, thoughtful questions about the fish, and she
Speaker 2: just seemed very deliberate, which I like. Okay, we split
Speaker 2: a couple of road from Tashimi, had a little sake
Speaker 2: and then a walker you know, down the block to
Speaker 2: her car and she thanked meate for dinner and it
Speaker 2: was fine, you know, and then then nothing. I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened.
Speaker 1: So literal full ghost.
Speaker 2: Full ghost, no nothing, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you do anything weird like forget how to use
Speaker 1: chopsticks or not split the bill properly or.
Speaker 2: No, we didn't. I comleted the bill, and I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty realistic about how things go, and
Speaker 2: I thought it went really well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're going to call her, you know this,
Speaker 1: so we'll have you on the line. You'll be able
Speaker 1: to hear it right from her.
Speaker 3: And A.
Speaker 1: I want to figure out why she goes to but
Speaker 1: B like, let's hope for a second date. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think we I don't want to say we haven't
Speaker 1: had a second date for days, but it's been days.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and get in position. We're gonna
Speaker 1: call naughty and see why she ghosted on you. I
Speaker 1: want to get you a second date. So throw some
Speaker 1: vibes into the universe. Here we go. Hello, Hi, is
Speaker 1: this Nadia? Good morning Nadia. This is Marcus calling from
Speaker 1: Star one on one three A right, Hi, Hi, how
Speaker 1: are you good? Do you listen to the show?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Okay? Do you know about Second Date Update? Yes?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: Great. I get to s vibe like you've been waiting
Speaker 1: to me be on it for some reason. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna date until Marcus calls me, well, hey,
Speaker 1: do you you want to be on Second Date Update?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sweet?
Speaker 3: You might as well just bring kalem on.
Speaker 1: We're here, okay, Caleb are you there?
Speaker 2: So here?
Speaker 1: Nice? This is gonna be the most adulting we do
Speaker 1: all day. You guys, So, Nadia, you know the drill
Speaker 1: like Caleb Doug you it's a good first date, he says,
Speaker 1: says you were and I quote hot, so we'll start
Speaker 1: their baseline. But he's feeling like you ghosted. So I
Speaker 1: got asked, did you ghost?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I didn't really risk bond to him,
Speaker 3: like when he texts it after and it wasn't like
Speaker 3: anything dramatic happened.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: There was just two things that kind of stuck with
Speaker 3: me that I haven't been able to kind of get past.
Speaker 1: All right, I've got my notepad out, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: The first is Caleb has this habit that he told
Speaker 3: me during dinner and he says that, like he mentioned,
Speaker 3: he times people and how long it takes them to
Speaker 3: answer questions, not out loud, he just kind of clocks
Speaker 3: it mentally. And he said he started doing it in
Speaker 3: meetings to understand how confident people are in their answers.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 3: And so I asked him if he does it outside
Speaker 3: of work, and he said, yeah.
Speaker 1: By outside. Are you doing it right now like that
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and he said sometimes, and he said you
Speaker 3: can learn a lot about people from pauses. And that's
Speaker 3: kind of when I realize he's been like watching me
Speaker 3: super closely all night and like clocking every time I,
Speaker 3: like I pause or answer something.
Speaker 1: Okay, Caleb, that's weird. What are you doing? Why nobody
Speaker 1: wants to be made to feel like they're being I
Speaker 1: don't know, weirdly audited or something.
Speaker 2: I mean I usually don't tell them.
Speaker 1: Okay, but this time you did. You could see how
Speaker 1: it could wear the lady out. Why do you do
Speaker 1: this again?
Speaker 2: Know that the longer someone takes to answer, I mean,
Speaker 2: there's been studies on this, it shows that they're indecisive
Speaker 2: or they're not sure of themselves. So when someone answers
Speaker 2: very quick when with authority, they're just just generally like
Speaker 2: more you know, more assertive, like an alpha. That's the
Speaker 2: way alpha's answer questions. They're direct, they're fast, they really.
Speaker 1: Can't they just be considered thoughtful.
Speaker 2: I guess. But you know, what do you want to be?
Speaker 2: You want to be thought you want to be an alpha.
Speaker 1: You'd like your lady to be in alpha as well.
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 2: Well? I like an assertive woman. I like a woman
Speaker 2: that knows what she wants. And you know, I'll be
Speaker 2: honest with you. That's what I saw. I liked what
Speaker 2: I saw, so I don't know why I'm like naughtie.
Speaker 2: I what I mean, you passed the test, So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Why you passed the test.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna look you guys. I should
Speaker 1: probably shut up because I always talk about it on
Speaker 1: the air, how I'm attracted to a woman. They could
Speaker 1: take me in a fight, so I'm just gonna sit back.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just felt like I was being measured
Speaker 3: all night, and that bothered me, you know, off the bat.
Speaker 3: But it was the second thing that like really changed
Speaker 3: the look.
Speaker 1: He forgot there was something else do tell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like towards the end of dinner, our conversation
Speaker 3: started turning, you know, to hobbies, and Caleb mentioned that
Speaker 3: he collects things, and so I was like, what do
Speaker 3: you you know kind of things you colick? And he
Speaker 3: said he keeps every single birthday card he's ever received,
Speaker 3: but not in a sentimental box, in labeled binders, chronologically
Speaker 3: organized and he said it helps him like track which
Speaker 3: friendships stay CONSI same year after year. And I said,
Speaker 3: do you ever like review them? And he's like, yeah, occasionally,
Speaker 3: it's a good way to notice who falls off. Like
Speaker 3: it's just so weird to me.
Speaker 1: So it's like a grading system or what are we doing, Caleb.
Speaker 2: I can really get a great idea of how good
Speaker 2: of a friend someone values me as you know, so
Speaker 2: I don't want to value somebody as a friend that
Speaker 2: doesn't value me the same way. Basically, I have three binders.
Speaker 2: I have an expired friends binder, and then the middle
Speaker 2: binders those are like pretty good friends, and then I
Speaker 2: have my all stars, like these are the friends that
Speaker 2: give me really good cards, and yeah, they just set
Speaker 2: themselves apart.
Speaker 1: And expired friends binder.
Speaker 3: That's so unsettling.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think you're really
Speaker 2: overreacting here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean honestly, like I feel like
Speaker 3: yours because.
Speaker 1: Has entered the chat. Uh you guys, hang on one second,
Speaker 1: Hang on, Nadia, Yes, I'm so sorry. I don't nah,
Speaker 1: that's not your guy. Yeah, thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and go. I appreciate you listening.
Speaker 1: You're welcome and hang on. What is it? Just quirky habits? Week?
Speaker 1: Is that? What's happening? And second date update? If you
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