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Speaker 2: My name is Dan Barrero. I host the program.

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Speaker 3: should be a very emotional and special ride this evening

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Speaker 3: between three and I'm presuming six point thirty tonight.

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Speaker 3: He produces the show. My name is Dan Barrero. We promise,

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Speaker 3: The lineup is deep and distinguished, and we'll give you

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Speaker 3: details on that in just a minute. And it's not

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Speaker 3: just the Friday regulars. So buckle up, as we like

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Speaker 3: to say in the business. Did you happen to see

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Speaker 3: this was or here in this case? Man, what a

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Speaker 3: throwback this was. Do you remember Anthony Barr, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: he was at the People Stadium on Sunday?

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Speaker 5: Was he not?

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Speaker 3: I believe that's true. He was a guest on the

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Speaker 3: Paul Allen Project. I thought it was earlier this week. Okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe it was late last week before he blew the horn.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know he was in. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't think he lives here anymore, does he? I

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Speaker 3: don't know that even sure so at some point in

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Speaker 3: the interview because his career is over right, he's not

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Speaker 3: playing anymore.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: The project says, you played with a lot of good

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Speaker 2: Who for you?

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Speaker 3: Who did it for you? Who was the best quarterback

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Speaker 3: that you played with? Now, he played for the Vikings

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Speaker 3: lot of quarterbacks here. The most notable, I think would

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Speaker 3: be Kirk Cousins promo quarterback Ted Bridgewater Dallas. He had

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Speaker 3: a year in Dallas. I believe his last last year

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Speaker 3: he's the starter again on Sunday night. I think Christian

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Speaker 2: Maybe I may have made that too often. Yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: Out of nowhere, it's case Keenum, who now is making

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Speaker 3: A big case Case Keenum guy. Now he couldn't hand Cousins.

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Speaker 2: He didn't. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of the names that because Pa

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Speaker 3: Case Keenan interesting like you he volunteers. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 3: he did. And Cousins, of course is I'm sure many

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Speaker 3: After a spirited dare I say, borderline mythic performance in

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Speaker 2: He's the starter, and.

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Speaker 3: He brought the Tampa He brought the Falcons back from

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Speaker 2: Did you see any of it, or at least did

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I heard about it. Obviously, I was not

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have so many choices next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we could keep the kid and let him continue

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Speaker 3: to grow our young quarterback in the what's the the

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is.

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Speaker 2: Give up on him. And he's waited like it's what.

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Speaker 5: Would be his best year two thousand, Koc's first year probably, which.

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Speaker 3: It just it was like he was doing it just

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Speaker 2: Be, with some some spice to it.

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Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if there's any of the kirk Obos

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Speaker 3: What would what would be the pure progression of available quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: Pure project progression of available minister of quarterbacks with this,

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Speaker 5: Because pure progression you want your first option. I would

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Speaker 5: The number one Burrow's better and number two he's he

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Speaker 5: That was the first time Joe Burrow ever smoked a cigar,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's still Kirk. That's still Kirk. And yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's always gonna win that bad Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: always number one. I don't know what's cheap for Kirk

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. That means the best of the best, all right.

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Speaker 2: Our old friend Joe Kalley.

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Speaker 3: Colly that's Wolfs. We are indeed back a prediction segment

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Speaker 3: probably about three forty seven or so, Ben Gesling, Star,

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Speaker 3: Debune Vikings four thirty, and Lavelle e Neo the third

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Speaker 2: He I think still spends a decent part.

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Speaker 3: Of the year in Minnesota, although he's not really one

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Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. There's some kind of sabotage.

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Speaker 6: From what I was told, they're in serious pursuit of

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Speaker 4: To see what they can get.

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you see the Miamis and Orlando's

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Speaker 4: Now what are you going to do? And it was

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Speaker 6: It was embarrassing on every facet. So and now they've

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's all true.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent?

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Speaker 6: Because he can play either guard spot, as unselfish as

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a really good person.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm not saying he's an impactful guy

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Speaker 3: So give me update me again on his contract. Situation

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Speaker 3: and and does it does that make it trickier to determine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What the Wolves would be? Yeah, what's what's left.

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Speaker 4: On the seat?

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Speaker 6: Expiring contracts Bulls offered him? He said no, He bet

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Speaker 4: Could a team.

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Speaker 6: Persuade him, maybe, But I don't know if teams are

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Speaker 3: It does make sense if they're going to do it, though,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, unless something else comes their way, where Memphis says

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Speaker 4: So could that change?

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Speaker 6: Yes, But right now I think a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: Would you flirt with John? Do you think that's too

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't touch one one touch Job. And it's funny

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Speaker 6: just don't trust that Jaw is no longer the player

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Speaker 4: Of a headache.

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Speaker 6: Zion. You just got to worry about his health and

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Speaker 4: What is he hanging with with with with.

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Speaker 6: Porn stars or strippers. I mean, I I can deal

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Speaker 3: What kind of package would the Bulls be interested in

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Speaker 3: if it gets more serious at some point for UH

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Speaker 6: I was told that is not even going to be

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Speaker 6: on the table, that Minnesota really covets him and and

447
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 6: likes what he's about. Leave it to the Bulls to

448
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 6: draft the wrong Frenchman left this past yearne So, and

449
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 6: then you know, then you're playing with a contract deep

450
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 6: Vincenzo's contract matches up, so then you're just trying to

451
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 6: play the matchup contract game. The Bulls would like to

452
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 6: get a draft asset back, but as you know, the

453
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 6: Timberwolves assets for twenty six, which is the class that

454
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 6: everyone is now coveting, are pretty messy. With protect it

455
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 6: and what can go where and what protecting, So that's

456
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 6: going to be kind of tough. It might have to

457
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 6: be something further down the road. But if the Bulls

458
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 6: trade Kobe White, they'd better get some kind of asset

459
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 6: back because they've missed on ac choir and assets the

460
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Speaker 6: last four years.

461
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Speaker 3: The Wolls, you know, out of necessity early this season

462
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 3: all but proclaimed Anthony Edwards is our point guard. Right,

463
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: they've said, because obviously Mike Conley was regular guest on

464
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: this show. I think even Mike get said he's longer

465
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: in the tooth. He's accepted the new role. He's not

466
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: going to be on the court all the time anymore.

467
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: And they've said, you know, they put as you know,

468
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: de Vincenzo in the starting lineup, but he's really not

469
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: a great ball handler. He's not a guy who's gonna

470
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: run anything, maybe for short periods. So they basically said, Aunt,

471
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: you've got to do it all, you know, until we

472
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: can figure out something else. I understand why they did it,

473
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: given their personnel. I don't think it's in the long

474
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Speaker 3: term interest, even the short term interest, frankly, of this

475
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 3: team and Anthony Edwards, even in a league where obviously

476
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: there are more and more scoring point guards. What do

477
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Speaker 3: you think, Joe, Joe, can you hear us?

478
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Speaker 2: Joe?

479
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Speaker 3: I think we lost them again. That's twice. Some phone

480
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Speaker 3: problems in the greater Well. Actually I think he said

481
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Speaker 3: he's out of time right now, wouldn't be sure. Cargo

482
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Speaker 3: branch on Brian Cafe in text line is open six

483
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Speaker 3: four six eight six. As we're waiting somebody, I get

484
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: one of these texts, and I get it. I understand.

485
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: I'm not offended by it about the Wolves trading for

486
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: Tias Jones. You're not going to find a bigger, two

487
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: bigger Tyas Jones fans in this market than GUARDSI and I.

488
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: But I don't think he moves the needle enough for me.

489
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Speaker 6: Now.

490
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Speaker 3: You could probably get him for not much, if that's

491
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Speaker 3: your intent, but I honestly don't think.

492
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Speaker 2: I don't think that is enough of it.

493
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: You need a more if you're gonna make a move.

494
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: I think it needs to be something a little bit

495
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Speaker 3: more sizable. I don't know how much you heard, am

496
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Speaker 3: I rambling question?

497
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Speaker 7: No?

498
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Speaker 4: I heard. I heard exactly what you said.

499
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Speaker 6: And here's the thing, you know, Dallas named Cooper flag

500
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 6: the starting point guard, and then they saw how taxing

501
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 6: it is. Yeah, right, And a couple of years ago

502
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 6: the Bulls tried putting Zach Levine at the point guard

503
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 6: and then you see how taxing on him. And this

504
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 6: is a couple of years ago. This is before pace

505
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 6: kicked up. So now you add hate to the.

506
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: To the mix. It's just too much.

507
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 6: You've got to be our primary scorer. You have to

508
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 6: be a substantial defender, at least adequate defender in the backcourt,

509
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 6: which is not easy with the way teams are running,

510
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 6: and you have to bring the ball up and some.

511
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: Teams want to throw a guy ninety feet at you.

512
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it's a cute idea, but it just

513
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 6: doesn't it's too much. And so I get why they

514
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 6: are now pursuing someone that could take those duties off

515
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 6: of Ant and just have Ant be a dual backcourt guy.

516
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Speaker 6: Which that's why the Kobe White thing fit fits, because

517
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 6: Kobe's done both too.

518
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Speaker 3: So our guest, by the way, Joe Colly, you still

519
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: write for newspapers right, Chicago Sun Times. Newspapers still do exist.

520
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 6: I still do, and I think I'm the last guy.

521
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 6: I think you might be a couple others that that

522
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 6: rights on a ten o'clock deadline have to make deadline

523
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 6: and is not chatting it up and goofing around in

524
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 6: the media room at nine forty five and slapping buts

525
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 6: and oh, I can write whenever I want because I

526
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 6: don't have a deadline. I am the ave man. I'm

527
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 6: the last guy doing that. I'm the idiot.

528
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: It is amazing to me because well, there's some like

529
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: you say, there's something like the deadlines here have become

530
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: just absurd. I don't even understand them at this point

531
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: in this market. And then I look at the shrinking staffs,

532
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: like how many people do you have writers on the

533
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: Sun Times sports department staff? And how many are left

534
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: at even the Chicago Tribune like two three four.

535
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: I can't speak for the Tribune.

536
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 6: We cut we have beat writers for everything, including the Sky,

537
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 6: and we travel with the Scott That's great, though we

538
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 6: are still I have no idea's happening.

539
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: How are you pulling this off?

540
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

541
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Speaker 6: In a couple of weeks, I could be a greeter

542
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 6: at Costco at Sans Park. So I don't know.

543
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: Uh, that's nothing wrong with that.

544
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: It's a good It's a very good costco as you

545
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: you don't know all too well.

546
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Speaker 4: I love that Cosca are there.

547
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. I know you're you know

548
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: you're This isn't bulls related? And then I don't want

549
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: to make you do you know Timberwolves wine line?

550
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: But you know the league?

551
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: So I think the Wolves absolutely are looking and have

552
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: to and need to and keep all their options open

553
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: at the position.

554
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: So leaving Kobe out of.

555
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: This for a second, who else do you think is viable?

556
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Who else do you think is worth trying to go after?

557
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: Who would who might move the needle at least some

558
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: that might be gettable? Any other names come to mind?

559
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's funny that we're here.

560
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 6: I mean, Colin Sexton is a guy that you know

561
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 6: could be dumped. You have to start looking and saying, Okay,

562
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 6: you're not gonna get if you're not gonna get Jah,

563
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: forget the Kyrie drain at least as of right now.

564
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: Right you know, who knows what what Dallas ends up doing.

565
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: But then you're kind of looking at those teams that

566
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 6: know for sure they're not making it and don't want

567
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 6: to make it, and covet that twenty six draft class

568
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 6: and they start dumping. Otherwise you're waiting until February, which

569
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: I don't think the Timberwolves want to do. You don't

570
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 6: want to lose too much ground to teams because you

571
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 6: couldn't figure out your point guard spot because you didn't

572
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 6: want to pull the trigger. So I think they're going

573
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: to be aggressive in this.

574
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. There's still so many unknowns.

575
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 6: Because not everybody is showing their hands.

576
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: Did they miscalculate on Dillingham, who I liked, I liked

577
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: when they made that move, or is it just is

578
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: he one of those guys that's going to take them

579
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: like a you know, young quarterback who might like JJ McCarthy,

580
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: you might need three years to figure this thing out

581
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: or what what?

582
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: What's the word with you and around the league on Dillingham?

583
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think the athleticism was

584
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 6: off the chart.

585
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I also think he was the G League

586
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: ignite guy.

587
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Correct, No, no, no, that's right. Yeah he was yeah,

588
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: University of Kentucky, Yeah, right.

589
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: He was Kentucky.

590
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 6: So and highly thought I think yeah, And look, I

591
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 6: don't think there were teams when they got him there

592
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: saying that's a bad pick.

593
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 4: You know, what I mean.

594
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: So remember that it's just a matter of you developed them,

595
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 6: can you figure it out? And are you running the

596
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: right system for him? So yeah, I just remember when

597
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 6: that pick came down the road, it was like, Yeah,

598
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 6: that's that's a that's a good pick. He's going to

599
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: fit right in there. Another athlete, another guy, that's going

600
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 6: to be a problem.

601
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you you know, as you know, the one

602
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: thing about Tim Connelly is even you know, they're kind

603
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: of following the pattern they did each of the last

604
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: two years, which was start they were meandered, uh similarly,

605
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: and are doing that again now.

606
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: But he's not he I don't think.

607
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Conley talks about believing instability, and on many

608
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: levels I think that's what he's represented an organization that

609
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you the history here when

610
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: it comes to lack instability. But he also, I think,

611
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: is a guy who's not going to wait around if

612
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: he comes to the conclusion that this ain't gonna work

613
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: enough for where we want to go, and I'm gonna

614
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: tall I might have to take a risk, but I'm

615
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: gonna do it. I mean, he strikes me as a

616
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: guy who generally isn't going to sit back.

617
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: No, and I think that's his reputation. And I think

618
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: you especially now once the apron hit and yeah, teams,

619
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 6: teams figured out that the NBA as they know it

620
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 6: has changed. You have to strike early. And I think

621
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 6: some teams struck earlier than usual last year, way before

622
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 6: the trade deadline, because I mean, you just can't let

623
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 6: this thing get away. And look, you could say it's

624
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 6: easy to say the West is already determined because there

625
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 6: is a monster there and no one is going to

626
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: touch that monster. But as the playoffs showed last year,

627
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 6: that monster is one injury away from all of a

628
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 6: sudden being gettable, right, And you kind of have to

629
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 6: keep that in mind if you're the Timberwolves. Work. To me,

630
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 6: the bar in Minnesota should be set up for at

631
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 6: the at the worst, we're in the Western Conference that

632
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: my finals, challenging to go to the Western Conference finals.

633
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: That's the worst.

634
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 6: That's the lowest the bar should be. And the way

635
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 6: the team's playing and what it's missing right now, that

636
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 6: has to be picked if you want to get to

637
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 6: that bar.

638
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: It's almost like the league needs its own Galulee or

639
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: Shane stant. They need somebody to hire somebody to take out,

640
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: like you said, one of one of the Oklahoma City

641
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: Core players. Although they're so damn good and focused, maybe

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: it wouldn't matter. I have no idea, but you know, and.

643
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: You know what's sick.

644
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 6: You know what's sick is they possibly could have three

645
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 6: lottery picks this year.

646
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: It's almost now, can can the commissioner? I like to

647
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: think that if David Stern was still running the league,

648
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: he'd find a way to prohibit them from keeping all

649
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: those picks because of a competitive imbalanced concern that that

650
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: it may be no one will watch the league any

651
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: longer because okay, see will be so dominant for so long.

652
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

653
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: But the scary thing is financially they probably don't want

654
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: to keep all three. Yeah, but would they package him

655
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 6: trade up and get someone really good at like three

656
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 6: or four that fits in, and then they can kind

657
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 6: of move a move guys through the line and say

658
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: we're keeping the foundation intact and we're moving the rest

659
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: of you to re line. I mean, that's a scary

660
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 6: what they're doing there is scary. I mean the rest

661
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: of the league, you know, it's the bull general managers

662
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 6: aren't doing it. Put it that way. I know that

663
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 6: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Where's Gianni's gonna end up? If anywhere, I don't know.

665
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: That one's tough. You know, New York. It feels like

666
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: New York.

667
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 6: You know he's tinkered with Chicago. But I think when

668
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 6: you look at who can make the trade, the best

669
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: trade are you probably look at the Spurs. I think

670
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 6: could probably offer up the most and send the most.

671
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: To Milwaukee where they don't.

672
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: Feel like they're totally rebuilding, where they're kind of reloading.

673
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 6: So I would keep an eye on the Spurs because

674
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 6: they just have a lot of young talent, a lot

675
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: of flexibility. You could send draft picks.

676
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 4: There's not many teams that can do that.

677
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: I might be done with Tibbs, by the way, I gotta.

678
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Be honest with you. I might be done with them.

679
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 6: I just talked to our guy a couple of weeks.

680
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 4: Happy for you, ready to go? Well, see, get him

681
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 4: a job, ready to go? Give him that Cleveland job?

682
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Ah that yeah, Well, I've always I've always.

683
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: Found Kenny Adkinson to be a bit of a fraud.

684
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 6: Give kids that job with that defense and get him

685
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 6: away from a dysfunctional organization. I told him, I said,

686
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: why don't you go like an organization that's not just

687
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: beyond dysfunction bulls, Timberwolf Nick, I mean picked somebody where

688
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 6: there's some some normalcy. Ye, So yeah, I would love

689
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 6: to see him end up like with already made team

690
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 6: like Cleveland or something.

691
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: Well here's what happened.

692
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: So, as you know, when he's got nothing to do,

693
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: he tours training camps, right, he goes everywhere. Yeah, so

694
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: I find out he's here and I immediately text him,

695
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: and I got nothing, said, you know, all right, I

696
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: don't expect you to come in the studio, give me,

697
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: give us five minutes.

698
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 6: Now.

699
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: I felt a little bit about it when I found

700
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: out that he basically did the same thing of Frank

701
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: I Sold, among others, on another on another one of

702
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: those trips.

703
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: But I couldn't. In the old days, he'd at least

704
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: text me back, And now I got no. It was

705
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: it was quick. They didn't like.

706
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 6: Bleeping just breaking down film.

707
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: He breaking up film. I caught him.

708
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 6: I caught him right after the uh I think the

709
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: second Alabama trip, because he did the college tour first

710
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 6: and he went to an Alabama game, Alabama football game.

711
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: So not just so he doesn't it's just do pros

712
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: that's college too.

713
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: Everything college too. Yeah, he was.

714
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: He was all over the college.

715
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 7: You know.

716
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 6: He still has his place in New York, Okay, and

717
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 6: he still has his place in Connecticut.

718
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: I think he's kind of just.

719
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: So, he's waiting it out. See what see where he

720
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: can land. He's ready though, there's no doubt. It's not like.

721
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 6: He's ready.

722
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: All right.

723
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: It's good to catch up, man. I appreciate you as always.

724
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well and we'll be in touch soon.

725
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: I hope absolutely. Then take care of happy holidays.

726
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: Same to you, Joe. Thank you so much.

727
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: Joe Collie, longtime beat writer NBA Chicago Bulls. These days

728
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: covering uh, the Bulls and the league for the Chicago Times,

729
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: people were clamoring, where the hell's Gurby?

730
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Be patient? The plan is for him to join us next.

731
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: Stay tuned fan.

732
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 6: He could go, let's open he will store.

733
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 7: Is time for the Bumper to Bumper Award winning NFL

734
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 7: prediction segment on a Fan that brought to you by

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00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 7: Continental Diamonds.

736
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: Now to help.

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00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: You break down this week's games, here's your favorite NFL wonk,

738
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: Dan Barrero, Carl May, I ask a favor of you

739
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: to start our segment.

740
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 2: Today, Yeah, style late, just noting.

741
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 3: That I appreciate your flexibility. It allowed us to put

742
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: on the highly controversial Chicago sports writer named Joe Cowley.

743
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: That sounds great, Dan, you don't sound very Chicago. What's

744
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: that supposed to me?

745
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 8: Means nothing but loses in Chicago, That's what it means.

746
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: I want to pass along.

747
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm actually the middle person here passing along a question

748
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: and a request from Fox nine senior executive producer Lori Fisher.

749
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: Lady, that's the one, and.

750
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: She is, I guess you could say, respectfully, asking you

751
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: to send the enough said crew a Christmas holiday card

752
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: so that then we could send one of our holiday

753
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: cards back to you in the spirit of the holiday season.

754
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: What are the odds?

755
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 8: I don't know about you, Dan, Maybe it's different in

756
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 8: your house. Not I have nothing to say about who

757
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 8: we sent Christmas cards.

758
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: Well, you could just pick one out yourself.

759
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 8: That is not even I don't even get a choice.

760
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 8: I mean, and it's like, I'm I'm I'm giving a

761
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 8: picture that says, hey, this is going to be on

762
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 8: a Christmas card this year, and I go, oh, that's great.

763
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 8: Can I we talk about that? And there's like, no,

764
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: I already ordered them, and it's like, okay, who is

765
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 8: sending them to? I don't know what. I'll tell my

766
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 8: wife that the TV lady. She kind of likes the.

767
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: TV lady like you guys on TV.

768
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't blame her for that, kind of.

769
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 8: Like the TV lady, so so she might do it.

770
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: What's your card look like this year?

771
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: Can you?

772
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: Can you describe it?

773
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 7: Her?

774
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: You don't even know?

775
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 8: Says Merry Christmas?

776
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: Somewhere well or does it say happy holidays? Sell them

777
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: say merry Christmas? I say happy holidays?

778
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: What kind of merry Christmas?

779
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 7: Okay?

780
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: All right? You know you don't run from it.

781
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 8: No, yeah, I know. It's like if you want to

782
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 8: sen me want something else.

783
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, you're not offend.

784
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 4: I don't.

785
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 8: I think it's kind of a weird tradition that we

786
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 8: have in this country.

787
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 2: So you know, it's weird.

788
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 8: Nice you can, but it does it says that, hey,

789
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 8: I really haven't thought about you all year, But yeah,

790
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 8: that's that's kind of what I should think about you

791
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 8: right now.

792
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: Better better then than not at all?

793
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 6: Right?

794
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I mean the fact that the people have

795
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 8: Christmas lists go oh yeah, And then you ask himself,

796
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 8: did we get one from them last?

797
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

798
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: You can't.

799
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 8: And then you start to you start to keep score.

800
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: Ye don't.

801
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 8: That's not what Christmas is all about.

802
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 6: You.

803
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: No, you, you have more wisdom sometimes than I really

804
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: thought was in you.

805
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know. It's it meant

806
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: to be a kind of a lesson.

807
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 8: You're trying to give me a backhand.

808
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: Is Randy part of your card? Does he do his own?

809
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: I have not.

810
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he does cards. I'd be shocked if

811
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: Randy does a card on our card.

812
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 8: But you know he's not living with us right now.

813
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 8: I don't what's that?

814
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: Did you boot him? Did you get did you throw?

815
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 8: He's just back, He's just living and still in Elk Mound.

816
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: So I didn't know that. When did that happen? I

817
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: thought he was living at the bed and brow house.

818
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: We bought a new house in not in bar Now

819
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 8: why you creep coming around?

820
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: Is it is it in like greater elk Mound. No,

821
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: it's not in elk Mound, it's way out of elk Mound. Well,

822
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: then l K people wean.

823
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 8: A neighboring community to Elkund.

824
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: But why suddenly the secrecy. You've always been pretty transparent

825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: and open.

826
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 8: Well, because before it's hawking people to come to the elk.

827
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 8: The oh, that's an Interactive Ice Bugs Hibbit and was

828
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 8: just connected to the house. Now that is now the

829
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 8: Wisconsin Interactive Icebugs Hibbit and bed and Breakfast and much.

830
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: How would Gerby describe his pure progression blatts beer to

831
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: box wine to the pure paint center.

832
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 6: What are you talking about?

833
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: It's an inside called stuff we've been talking about.

834
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 8: Then everybody else to have a nice chuckle within your

835
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 8: audience down.

836
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 6: Well, No, that was very clever dance.

837
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: It's not at your expense necessarily, Although I am curious

838
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 3: what would be your purest progression like best to worst

839
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: when it comes to libatiens.

840
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 8: Having drink.

841
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 6: Beer?

842
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: What but what brand of beer?

843
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 6: I don't care.

844
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 8: I mean, let's go and then I have I move

845
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 8: up to wine. No, I'm wine fine, but you gotta be.

846
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: Here's what I've learned.

847
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 8: Unless you're eating something, wine is pretty pointless. Just sit

848
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 8: around and drink a glass of wine. What the hell

849
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: is that about? It's like number one, it's not it's

850
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 8: it tastes better if you're having like roast beef like

851
00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 8: pasta or something like that, especially white wine. I don't

852
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 8: have a lot of time and our need for it.

853
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 8: If I'm just drinking, yeah, yeah, I would skip towards

854
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 8: you know, it doesn't matter where you go because there's

855
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 8: so many good choices. Vodka and sprite used to be

856
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 8: my go to, yes, but I mean I like a

857
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 8: margarita from time to time. I've become very eclectic in

858
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 8: my taste. I have a wide variety of nationalities in

859
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 8: my drinking, and so also like, uh yeah, I like rum,

860
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 8: you know, especially like spice drum. You haven't had spice drum?

861
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: I have not.

862
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 8: It's kind it's it's different if you put that with

863
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 8: some diet coke or coke something like that, or just

864
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 8: sip it, put in an eggnog. Uh and I and

865
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 8: you can't go wrong with whiskey.

866
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: With I thought I was wondering if you're going to

867
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: get to whiskey.

868
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 8: Our cars, you can't go. That's what you get our

869
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 8: brandy in old fashioned. What I learned is that whiskey

870
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 8: and brandy are very similar. In Bourbon there a very similar.

871
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Are they really no clue?

872
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: Yeah?

873
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 8: It's similar.

874
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: Are you a big fan this time of the year

875
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: of the hot toddy? Sure, why not?

876
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 8: Let's go.

877
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: What's in a hot toddy? I get home?

878
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 8: No, I mean I can't be.

879
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: I like to say hot toddy, but I don't know

880
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: what's in a hot toddy? What's in a hot toddy?

881
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Do you know?

882
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 8: It's like it's like a generally, it's like got some

883
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 8: creamy okay, yeah, and then you put some rum in it.

884
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 8: That's very tasty.

885
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 6: Do you like egg No?

886
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I do not. I don't like eggnog at all. You

887
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: neither were too thick.

888
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Speaker 8: You're talking about it's great.

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Speaker 2: Okay. No, I'm not saying, well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well you hate the holidays? Is that it's always

891
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Speaker 8: like the eggnog?

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Speaker 2: I don't need to drink to enjoy the holidays? Do I?

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Speaker 2: Is that a pre ride? Was it in your world?

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Speaker 2: Probably is with relatives? I know you don't have my family.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: We got to get another break in because we had

897
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Speaker 3: the late guests. The point of that well, because we

898
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Speaker 3: want to stay on schedule, and then we want to

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Speaker 3: get to the picks for a big weekend of a big.

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Speaker 8: Risk again of thought commercial, I'll do it.

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Speaker 5: I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to make an exception in this case,

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Speaker 3: Gurby part two, and we'll actually get to the standings

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Speaker 3: and our picks in just a minut