1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: If you want to talk abou what's happened to your 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: favorite KFA and shows, you can make your voice heard 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: on the Bradshaw Brian KFA and text line. So that's 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: not what you have to say by texting your message 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: A six four six eighty six. A number is six 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: four six eight six standard text message in data right, Supply. 7 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find on the fly here Sam Darnold's 8 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: statistics for this season. I think I did find them. 9 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: In fact, maybe the better way to do this is, uh, 10 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: let's go to NFL quarterback rankings. Maybe that's the answer 11 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: rather than just getting his stats, because we need the comparison. 12 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: Let's go to for example. 13 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: Let's go to QBR twenty twenty five regular season. That's 14 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: the fancy quarterback rankings that ESPN prefers, and let's see 15 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: what this tells us. Number one ranked quarterback regular season 16 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: National Football League. I would not have guessed this top 17 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: QBR by almost five points. Drake May New England. 18 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Your guy. 19 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Second, Jordan Loves seventy two point eight, Funny Rock Purty third, 20 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: Stafford four, Josh Allen seven, Daniel Jones eight, Zac Jones, 21 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: San Fran nine, San Francisco has got two quarterbacks of 22 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: the top ten in QBR. That's pretty good looking for 23 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: still looking, still looking, Sam Darnold nineteenth, nineteenth at fifty 24 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: six point zero. Now let's do the other quarterback ranking, 25 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: shall we. Let's go to hold on, let's go. I 26 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: can't find it via ESPN, so let's look elsewhere for 27 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: this one QB ratings and film passing stats. No, that's 28 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: not what I'm looking for. Hold on a second, I'll 29 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: get to it. Why is this this difficult quarterback rings? 30 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: I thought ESPN had? Well, here's go to Pro football 31 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Rough Prence will go that way. And what we are 32 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: looking for here again is rating. I can't find it. 33 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: See if you can find the old fashion here we 34 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: go here it is. 35 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: I found it. 36 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: So in the old fashioned statistics on quarterback rating, Drake 37 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: May number one. He's had a pretty good year apparently, 38 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: Matt Stafford two, your guy Jordan Love is six. 39 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. 40 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Darnald Fair is better here he's won two, three, four, five, six, seven, 41 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: nine ten. He's eleventh in the old fashioned quarterback rating, 42 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: so creditable at ninety nine point one. Let me get 43 00:03:50,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: some of his stats more specifically for this season seventeen games, 44 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: twenty five touchdowns, fourteen interceptions. So what's fair to say 45 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: about him at this point. 46 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: Not that. 47 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: He's the number one reason Seattle is in the position 48 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: they're in, But he's had to play. He has played creditably. 49 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: He's been better than average, at least according to the 50 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: old fashioned quarterback writing. So the cliche applies that football 51 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: is set up in a way that if you are 52 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: the winning if you're a quarterback on a winning team, 53 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: you're probably gonna get a little more of the credit 54 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: than you deserve at times, and perhaps more of the 55 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: blame than you deserve when it goes the other way. 56 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: He lately, I. 57 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: Think you feel like he's almost back to quote unquote 58 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: game manager. Although even in the last game, though his 59 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: overall numbers weren't impressive, he had a couple of very 60 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: nice throws that he indeed made. So trying to project 61 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: what he might have done if he'd stayed here, it's 62 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: very difficult to say. 63 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: I think the Seattle. 64 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Defense is better than the Vikings, but the Vikings defense, 65 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: by the end of the year was statistically it is 66 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: quite good. 67 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: What now that's. 68 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Over, what happened, Dolphins are hiring former Packers defensive coordinator 69 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Haffley as their head coach. 70 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Belief that's done. This isn't Packer preview. 71 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: That affects the North, Well, yeah it does, but I 72 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: don't think people here would say it's over. 73 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: They might celebrate that. They look at it very differently. 74 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: I suppose I shouldn't have came in like, yeah, I 75 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: thought I thought it was b flow. But then when 76 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: you said the Miami part, so they Miami's not hiring him, 77 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: I know they could be that. 78 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: So he's gone, huh, yeah, it's all over. It's all over. 79 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: So defensive coordinator spot in Green Bay, wide open Flores 80 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: and I get a head coaching to though most likely. 81 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: That would be a delicious story if he uh yeah, 82 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: would it not? 83 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't. I don't think we can count 84 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: on that. 85 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: Though. I don't think he's going to go to Green Bay. 86 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up with the head coaching job. 87 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: I think it's a very good chance that's what he 88 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: ends up with. We'll see. 89 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: Somebody is asking also for. 90 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: Let's get to see why why is this set up 91 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: in a way where I can't get to where I 92 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: want to? Let's go back to NFL QB stats. I 93 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: know this is riveting for people, but for some reason, 94 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: my computer is acting very strangely. NFL passing stat leaders. 95 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: Let's get to but I don't want the It keeps 96 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: going to the year. There's the postseason. Let me get 97 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: to twenty five regular season and let's get to QBR. 98 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Somebody's asking what JJ McCarthy's QBR was by the end 99 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: of the season, and I don't even see him on here. 100 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: He got him at thirty sixth in the league. Oh yeah. 101 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: The reason I don't see him yet is because I've 102 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: got it through twenty eight so and this is so 103 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: he's even below that you're saying. 104 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: So he was below cam Ward. He ended up finishing 105 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: below cam Ward. That's not easy to do. 106 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: So what I'm Geno Smith, what I've got? What's his 107 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: actual rating? 108 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: His actual rating? JAJ McCarthy is a thirty five point seven. 109 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so he didn't maybe he didn't have enough 110 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: he seems to qualify. 111 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm on Pro Football Reference, okay, and he's above Geno Smith, 112 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: cam Ward, he's below Tua And. 113 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: That's not good. It's not very good at all. 114 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: So look, I don't know again, I don't want to 115 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: turn this into Sam Darnold is an MVP candidate. He 116 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: is not an MVP candidate this year. No one is 117 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: suggesting he's an MVP candidate this year. And I don't 118 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: want to do the revision. It's history because a lot 119 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: of people were not all that interested in keeping Darnold. 120 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: But I'll continue to say what I said yesterday and 121 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: many times before. If there are people tired of all 122 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: the second guessing and the projecting that's going on, the 123 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: only team to blame, the only individuals to blame, run 124 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: the Vikings and play quarterback for the Vikings. 125 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: If you get on the. 126 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: Board with more serviceable quarterback play, not great, serviceable quarterback 127 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: play in your first year, there's not as much chatter 128 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: and muttering about all the other options that you had, 129 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: including as we talked about yesterday, Bo Nicks. 130 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 3: It won't come up be. 131 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Like, well, that's cute, but our guy is doing fine. 132 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: He's not doing fine. He hasn't come close to doing fine, 133 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: and he hasn't been gotten close to being capable of 134 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: staying on the field. So that's why the projecting goes on. 135 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: And if the guys, if he's included among guys who 136 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: are still playing at this late date. It's going to 137 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: tell you that I don't think there's anybody saying that 138 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: Seattle is winning in spite of Sam Darnold. I think 139 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: they're saying, yeah, we can use a little more from him. 140 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: But he's actually made a number of plays over the 141 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: course of this season that have been helpful to a 142 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: team that already has got a really good defense. There 143 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: comes Sig. Sigg's coming into the stadium. He looks focused too, 144 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: don't he look at him? Does he not look focused 145 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: right now? He never doesn't. That's a good point. He 146 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: never does look anything. But in honor of Sig, today, 147 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: my lunch chicken bowl Chipotle, extra white rice, no beans. Now, 148 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: unlike Sig I put, I asked for shredded cheese, no sauces, 149 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: though nothing extra. He's a purist too, do any extra 150 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: stuff in there? 151 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: And it was It tasted pretty good, I gotta say, because. 152 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: The word is that Sig has had that same meal, Like, 153 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: is it like five hundred straight day working days? 154 00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: Whatever? 155 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Has been like two years since he's I think ben 156 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: in Indiana University. Here's another reason why the Bears and 157 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: other teams should feel sick about squandering an opportunity to 158 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: make a playoff run. Seattle just lost their best running back. 159 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: He's out for the season. Is it pronounced charmon ay? 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: He's a nice he's a nice runner. He is, he 161 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: is powerful, resourceful, and I think he just he's either 162 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: has undergone surgery or is it about to. But he's out, 163 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: will not be available for the NFC title game. 164 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: Correct? 165 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: Why is your brow frode? Why is the Brett blakemore 166 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: brow furrod? Oh? 167 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: I thought you said, were you seeing something different? No? 168 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean he because he that hurt hurts Seattle. 169 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: My point is they I know again, they'll still be 170 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: favored there at home all that stuff. But what a 171 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: wide open year. Uh, let's put some bonus bucks in 172 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: somebody's hands, shall we. Let's do it the fan once. 173 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Give you a shot to win that Bonus Bucks National 174 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Cash Contest as a KFA dot Com keyword is happy. 175 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: Keyword is happy. 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For example, it's game day, so you 189 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: ate the same things your favorite teams head coach for lunch, 190 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: you give guards, you crap about his rube habits. You're 191 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: like a twelve year old boy. That's the heart of rubidity. 192 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't call that Larry mindel Guy's best material, but okay, 193 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: I would also say that the fatal flaw the Larry 194 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: mondela Guy. First of all, Larry Mondella Guy is the 195 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: classic never take me seriously, but he tends to be 196 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: more literal in analyzing the comic styling the comedic stylings 197 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: of others, like he really means that's the reason I 198 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: had Chipotle today. 199 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: When I eat Chipotle that meal and have. 200 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: Once a week for probably the last I'd say ten 201 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: to fifteen years of my life. 202 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: Constantly, but teach their own. 203 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: When it comes to comic stylings, I would just say, Larry, 204 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: you know, remember there's a chance that others are. 205 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: Bidding it out a little. 206 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: Bit, as in B I T T I in g 207 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: it out a little bit is just as much as 208 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: as you are. I got a way to go, waste 209 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: to go to match Guardsy's rubidity when it comes to 210 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: I think fan material. Although I am wearing, what am 211 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: I wearing? I'm Indiana Football. I got Indiana football hoodie on. 212 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: But I've been wearing that for well, let's see, at 213 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: least the last two years. I think I got it 214 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: had halfway through last season, if I'm not mistaken. Somebody 215 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: wanted to know the exact Darnold stats for the last 216 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: two seasons. How they compared in Minnesota last year, Seattle 217 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: this year. 218 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: Quarterback rating. 219 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Last year fifty seven point three, this year fifty six. 220 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: Old fashioned quarterback rating last year one oh two point 221 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: five this year ninety nine one. So it's so slightly better. 222 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: A couple interesting stats though, touchdowns thirty five and seventeen 223 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: games a year ago twenty five with Seattle this year, 224 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: so ten fewer. He threw twelve interceptions last year, two 225 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: more interceptions this year. 226 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: He's thrown this. 227 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: Year about looks like seventy fewer passes than he did 228 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: a year ago. 229 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: On the other hand, he was sacked. 230 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: Forty eight times last year and he's only been sacked 231 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 232 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: Times this year. As well. 233 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: I think it's the touchdowns number that had him on 234 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: a higher plane a year ago, thirty five last year 235 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to twenty five this year. That might have 236 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: a lot to say about it as well. The elephant 237 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: the room is still that if we would have drafted 238 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: even average, we would have had serviceable backups. And this 239 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: dumpster fire called our offensive line quarterbacks ran for their 240 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: lives every single game starters played together with two games. 241 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: Terrible draft league, zero depth. 242 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Here's another in an endless series of quazy needs to 243 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: go texts, We've had. 244 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: About a lot of them. 245 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: Go to the top of the list. Here I texted 246 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: earlier in this season. Did I read this already? 247 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: Did I read solind Blaine? 248 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 249 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't think I did. 250 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: That. 251 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: We boxed our quarterback this situation this offseason, and it 252 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: would haunt us more than. 253 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: The herschel Walker trade. 254 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm even more convinced we had a franchise QB in 255 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: the house that won fourteen games for us and had 256 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: instant chemistry our best player in JJ. What a painful 257 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: offense we had to watch this year. It was offensive 258 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: at times. It's bad when you have would have probably 259 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: have had a better chance of the playoffs with Wentz 260 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: over the guy you anointed as our answer. So Minnesota, 261 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: we would mess up the one thing we have been 262 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: looking for for years ago. Franchise quarterback in Darnold. I 263 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: don't think Sam's that young anymore. I'm still not sure 264 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: i'd call him a franchise quarterback. He's clearly a better 265 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: quarterback than Jefferson. Daniel Jones is clearly a better quarterback 266 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: at Jefferson than McCarthy. Jonesy is Aaron Rodgers was this season, 267 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: and despite not having a particularly distinguished qbr oo Nicks 268 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: was a better be more available than our guy was. 269 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: So all those things I think need to be put 270 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: into the mix. The point of this isn't to overrate 271 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Darnald or pretend, as I said, he's a top five 272 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: candidate for MVP. 273 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: He is not. 274 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: He's he was closer to that a year ago until 275 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: that bad end. And again I look back in the end, 276 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: if I had to redo anything, I would say I 277 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: might have put too much blame on Donald and not 278 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: enough on other aspects of what the Vikings of the 279 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Vikings offense, including offensive line, including game planning, including play calling. 280 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: I think all of those played bigger roles. Darnold had 281 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: a piece of it. He has to own that part, 282 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: but I think it was a little bit more mixed, 283 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: and you can argue the Vikings may have suspected it 284 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: on the basis of the how hard they worked to 285 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: remake their offensive line. I mean, they pretty extensive changes, 286 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: and unfortunately those changes did not pan out very successfully. 287 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: One could say I hate Sean Payton as much as 288 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: JG and I like KOC. But I wonder if the 289 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: difference between Nixon McCarthy as a coach willing to adjust 290 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: his offense the quarterback versus one expecting the quarterback to 291 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: adjust the offense. 292 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: I think it's a fair question. I really do. 293 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: I think it's the one one of the open questions 294 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: surrounding this head coach. I watched Ben Johnson last night. 295 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: One could argue be almost too stubborn running the ball 296 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: on a night where they had to remake their entire 297 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: offensive line, and they were just the reason the Bear. 298 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: I think the number one reason the Bears lost that 299 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: game was their short yardage forays were way too unsuccessful, 300 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: especially by their standards. They had endless difficulties getting a 301 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: yard and a half on third and one, and they're 302 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: used to getting that yard pretty easily, and he kept 303 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: handing the ball off. But I think some of that 304 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: is speaks to his sensibility that he believes that's how 305 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: you help any quarterback. Now, his guy was throwing well 306 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: at times, not from a percentage standpoint, but certainly making 307 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: some big plays. But I think he still has, already, 308 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: as a head coach in his first year, a better 309 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: appreciation of helping out my quarterback more than Koc does 310 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: at this late date, And sadly because of the success 311 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: he had with Darnald throwing as much as he did 312 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: last year, I think in his world, that's confirmation for him, 313 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: validation that yet this is the way to do it. 314 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: And I would say he still hasn't figured out the 315 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: value of the run, The value of happened a couple 316 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 2: of times in the game yesterday running on second and ten, 317 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: which actually the Bears did Okay, the probably Bears had, 318 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: as I said, was on short yards, third down by 319 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: their and even fourth down. They were very unsuccessful running 320 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: the football a bout of the hour break. About an 321 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: hour from now, we will we will preview the National 322 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Championship game. Dateline, Miami, Florida. Rick Bozich, I you there's 323 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: a rube you want about Rubes. He is an Indiana 324 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: University football rube. He will help us preview I you 325 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: and Miami, and we'll find out if an IU victory 326 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: might force him out of retirement because he just retired 327 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: a few months ago from sports running. Could this be 328 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: the inspiration to get him back in it. 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Okay, 347 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: so we'll be out about six fifteen ish or so? 348 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: Uh six one two? 349 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: Guy Quaycy didn't call the plays in last year's Rams 350 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: and Lions game. KOSC is the problem slash issue for 351 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: long term Super Bowl success, Dan, Why do Minnesota fans 352 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: and even KFN personalities rave about KOSC and BF without 353 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: one postseason victory? 354 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Head scratcher? Maybe the low bar for Minnesota sports. 355 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: Donald stats last two years twenty twenty five, fourteen wins, 356 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, fourteen wins. Well, winning does supposed to 357 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: be part of it is supposed to be part of 358 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: the thing, even if no one would, I think, suggest 359 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: that the team is built around Sam Donald's passing ability. 360 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 2: And again, maybe that was the mistake last year. You 361 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: get some of those fancy numbers that he had, and 362 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: you start believing we can build everything around him, as 363 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: opposed to, we've got a nice quarterback, better than you've 364 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: had before, and let's make it easy for him. Let's 365 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: try to build around him, do other things that give 366 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: him a maybe a better chance to succeed. 367 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: How about that radical idea. I think that's too radical 368 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: for some people. 369 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: Another dismissal today, the Buffalo Bills fired their head coach. 370 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: Is that is that confirmed or is that just a 371 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: media report? Oh, it's confirmed. That's over nine years. You 372 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: look up how many years something like that. I think 373 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: it's nine. He had a one lost record, even better 374 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: than your guys. And by the way, you're extending right, 375 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: you're locking in. Yeah, you're doubling down the floor. You're saying, 376 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: we're not moving, we're not budgeting, we're not panicking just 377 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: because the gurbishments of the world say changes have to 378 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: be made, changes are coming. I'm actually impressed by your 379 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: club's approach. I'm not sure I would have recommended it 380 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: when you lose the way you guys lost, But let's 381 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: face it. 382 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five, slash six. 383 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: The easiest thing in the world to do is to 384 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: fire the head coach takes the rusher off. You get 385 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: the adrenaline rush because the assumption is the next guy 386 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: is going to be better. Statistically speaking, chances are you'll 387 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: be worse. But you want to believe we make that 388 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: one change and everything's going to be fine. 389 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: You guys decide to double down. Who's the what's the 390 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: name of the buffalo coach? You just got shot McDermott. 391 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: McDermott's out nine years, nine years. I'll check his one 392 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: loss record, but he had a I mean, now, is 393 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: his one loss record because he's a great coach or 394 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: is it because he had a really good to now 395 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: great quarterback? 396 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: Well, I've got it. Okay, it's ninety eight and fifty, 397 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 3: ninety eight and fifty. 398 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: How many ninety eight and fifty coaches have been dismissed 399 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: with that kind of that sort of winning percentage? Well, 400 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: here's the kicker, his playoff win loss eight night, eight 401 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: and eight. Yeah, not great. The issue there is the obvious. 402 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: The assumption is if your quarterback is as good as 403 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: people think he is, then by god, one of these 404 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: you got to at least get to the Super Bowl, 405 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: and the pressure this year was the usual excuse, who's 406 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: better than Patrick Mahomes. It's like playing against Michael Jordan. 407 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: Patrick Hewing never broke through because he had his accident 408 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: of birth. He played in the NBA at the same 409 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: time Jordan did several other players, Charles Barkley included, but 410 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: this time Mahomes wasn't a factor. Burrow wasn't a factor. 411 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson wasn't either, And that's probably what chaps the 412 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: rear end of people in the Buffalo Bills organization saying, well, 413 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: we should have broken through. Now is it his fault 414 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: that his QB had his worst turnover game and history 415 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: ever ever I think of the postseason? Probably not, but 416 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: somebody's going to take the fall, and it's the old 417 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: deal of Okay, we're kind of tired of that same voice. 418 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: Let's the shiny new penny always ends up being superior. Now, 419 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: what's interesting to me is, look who's on the game 420 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: day set. By the way, your guy Belly Belichick in 421 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: this Carolina blue, it's got save into his immediate right. 422 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: Where was I? The Buffalo job, by definition, becomes the 423 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: most attractive of any that were available. This offseason. Correct, 424 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: what's a more attractive job than Buffalo's right now? I mean, 425 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: I can't think of any who would even be Baltimore. Baltimore, 426 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: You're right, Baltimore would be up there. You're right, that's fair. 427 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: But new stadium in Buffalo, franchise Qban. 428 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: That's also true. Yeah, I still got to think a 429 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: lot of football in him. So I have not heard 430 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: any rumors for that job. I'll be curious to see 431 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: who might be front running there. But how many of 432 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: these jobs have been filled? It's a good question. I 433 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: just saw it. I think three is the official. I 434 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: need to find it again. Saw the current once. 435 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: You get it just just started. So what do we 436 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: got so far? Right now? 437 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: The Giants they hired Harbaugh, that's it, Falcons with Stefanski. 438 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: Stefanski, he's back in the saddle. And then Jeff Haffley, 439 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: my guy guy to Miami. So openings are Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Brown's, Titans, Raiders, Cardinals. 440 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: Did I actually hear. 441 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: That the the front runner for the Titans job is 442 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: the former Bears head coach who's now returned back to 443 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: Kansas City. 444 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 3: What's his name? Naggy? 445 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Naggy I think he's gone too, because they just hired 446 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: his replacement. 447 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: I think, so, No, did Naggy get the job, That's 448 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: what I'm asking. I thought he was a front runner 449 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: for Tennessee. What do you mean he's gone? 450 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, I know Bienemy is back in Kansas City, but 451 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: I don't think Naggy's gone from Kansas City. 452 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: I think, but I believe he's just I think he's 453 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: viewed as anyway. So don't don't have to explain to 454 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: me why he's a front runner of anything. I don't 455 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 2: understand why he deserves another chance. I think he's got 456 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: a connection with a guy who runs the franchise. 457 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: I you know, I don't know. 458 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: It's We've talked about it with Mason over the years. 459 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: It's it's a funny phenomenon because for fans, fans don't 460 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: think in terms of flesh and blood, right, they don't 461 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: think in terms of well, people's livelihoods you're talking about 462 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: and families that are involved. And it's a how can 463 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: you be so cavalier about saying much time? We're tired 464 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: of that voice. But what people have to understand is 465 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: fans don't think that way because, as I said, they 466 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: think of each of these coaches as symbols. They don't 467 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: really think of them as flesh and blood, and so 468 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: for them it's I'm tired of getting close but not 469 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: winning it. 470 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: Now. 471 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: Obviously, if you compare that to well, what if you 472 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: never made the playoffs or you made the playoffs once 473 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: every five years and had a losing record four out 474 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: of every five years. What's worse that or leveling off 475 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: and not getting to the big dance but being a 476 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: factor every year. Obviously the former is worse, not being 477 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: a factor, But you're conditioned on the basis of the 478 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: of what has taken place before to look at even 479 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: success differently, if you feel as if the success has 480 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: leveled off, even if I mean that record that you 481 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: mentioned for Buffalo guy, that's a tremendous regular season coaching record. 482 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: Now postseason is five hundred, but eight and eight's not horrible. 483 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: But that's inevitable now usually, I mean, I think there's 484 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: some owners who do get influenced by fans. 485 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 3: Some owners have become more and more like fans. 486 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: Others are a little tougher and they say, well, whatever 487 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: the fans think, I can't you know, I can't be 488 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: addict I can't allow that to dictate where I'm going. 489 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: But my larger point is it's it's a it's a 490 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: for fans and media, it's a spectator sport. It's now 491 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: probably you know they're the voice. They need a new voice. 492 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: That's one of the cliches. 493 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: Does it apply? 494 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: Is it fair? 495 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes it is? Sometimes it isn't. 496 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: But if you're stuck with your team, as you said, 497 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: the only chance you have maybe to in your at 498 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: least in your mind, to change the inertia that has 499 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: set in, or the feeling of we're kind of mired 500 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: in wherever, whatever plateau we're on, we're kind of stuck there. 501 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: You say, well, bring somebody else in, maybe a different 502 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: leadership style. Maybe he shakes everything up. Go back to 503 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: Denny Green first day walked in new sheriff in town. 504 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: We loved it. 505 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: I praised it because to me, that's exactly the Vikings 506 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: then needed a new sheriff in town. 507 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: Wasn't that Jerry Burns did not a coach. 508 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: It was a feeling of certain certain I don't know, 509 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: complacency had set in. And let's see if this other 510 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: guy who's going to come at a little harder and 511 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: doesn't have the built in relation, so he feels like 512 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: he can do more, you know, sort of make the 513 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: changes that need to be made. And I think that's 514 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: what dictates a lot of owners making the decisions they do. 515 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: And you know, you could even in the case of Tomlin, 516 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: ultimately I guess he decided that he just had enough 517 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: for now. 518 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: If you believe that. 519 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: But you know, you say, that's a hell of a run. 520 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: Should you be that unhappy or feel that bad for 521 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: that individual after twenty years in a business where it's 522 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: amazing to if you last five, let alone ten or twenty, 523 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I will grant the Glenn Mason 524 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: point that often it's the adrenaline rush, and the proof 525 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: is always going to be post adrenaline. What what are 526 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: the real day to day ramifications of what you did? 527 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: You felt good doing it because it's fun, it's exciting, 528 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: kind of tired of that other name, you're tired of 529 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: his stick, you're tired to what he has to say, 530 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: and you want to get this other guy you don't 531 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: know quite as well, or you haven't heard him utter 532 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: the same cliches over and over because you haven't paid 533 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: as much attention to him, and then he just feels fresher. 534 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes it goes nowhere. However, sometimes that different voice helps. 535 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 2: Sometimes that different voice actually makes a difference with players. 536 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: Maybe it is easier for them to pay attention. Maybe 537 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: they were turning off that other voice. Maybe the head 538 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: coach who's been there forever, even if he's been a 539 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: good coach, gets two set in his ways and doesn't adjust, 540 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: doesn't become flexible enough to make those sorts of changes. 541 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: So this is going to be a year where one 542 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: of the offseason stories or one of the early season 543 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: stories next year will be given. 544 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: What do we end up with? Was it ten? 545 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: I think with McDermott, I think that was the tenth. 546 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: I think that was the tenth dismissal or tenth coach 547 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: coaching opening over the course this offseas. So that's a 548 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: third of the of the of the of the league. 549 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: That's got to be high, even by NFL standards. So 550 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: one of the stories going forward is gonna be say, Okay. 551 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: Which of these worked out? 552 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: And which of these did organizations kid themselves that really 553 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: the problem had more to do with talent. Buffalo I 554 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: thought I heard either from the owner or from one 555 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: of the big shots that we have to sort of 556 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: redo everything that we do, which, again, what does that mean? 557 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: It sounds impressive, but what does it really mean? You know, 558 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: how does that be more precise? With that, you're gonna 559 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna take a whole new look at everything. 560 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: In what sense? 561 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: Maybe vis can bring in McDermott's defensive coordinator Beefo and 562 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: moves on. 563 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: That's an interesting thought. 564 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm not ignoring the Vikings quarterback play this past year, 565 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: but you guys make it sound like if only we'd 566 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: had even an average quarterback we be guaranteed a playoff 567 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: winner two if you consider the entire rest of the 568 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: team was pretty mediocre. I believe, I actually believe, and 569 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: I think we get lost in this because we're in 570 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: it every week. I believe the quarterback play was worse 571 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: than the perception of it. 572 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: I really do. I think and I do believe the 573 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: notion that the quarterback. 574 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: Play can elevate the rest of a team, and I 575 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: think he can also make that team descend to a 576 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: place that makes it look worse than it actually is. 577 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: And I think this was pretty damn bad. 578 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: We'll get some of the of our offensive statistics because 579 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: I think people forget just how hideous at times we were. 580 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we were in historic territory for a few games. 581 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: This is something we maybe we'll talk about with Kevin 582 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: Seffert as well Brashawan and Brian Khan. Text line is 583 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: six four six eight six. One of the questions moving 584 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: forward is going to be if you do lose Bflow, 585 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: who does become your defensive coordinator? And it's unlikely that 586 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: the next guy is going to be able to call 587 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: it the same way, because this stuff, it's when it's 588 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: your defense and it's your approach. Everybody's got their own 589 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 2: stamp they want to put on it, whether they should 590 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: or not. And I think we would have almost as 591 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: many questions about the defense as we would the quarterback 592 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: situation going into next year. Now you could say the 593 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 2: defense played well enough, you got enough people coming back. 594 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Whoever becomes the coordinator should have a chance to do 595 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: something with that group. I'm not so sure about that. 596 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: I think I do think the I think if Flores leaves, 597 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: I think it would be a very very big loss. 598 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: A couple more texts that I wanted to get to 599 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: sound like we need looking at that one. 600 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: You mentioned the what's worse a coach that's constantly in 601 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs doesn't do anything, or a coach that's only 602 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: relevant once every five years or so. Well, if you're 603 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: the latter, we're only relevant once every five years. That's 604 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: not your fault because you don't have the nil money 605 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: that the other schools. 606 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you can't. Really, that's true. We hear that 607 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: a lot. Do anything about it. 608 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: Ten percent of your eyes might think you're funny, wishing 609 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: we kept Donald. Ninety percent think you're a richard. You 610 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: weren't pounding the table for him, and you know it. 611 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: That's from a familiar five oh seven guy. I was 612 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: seven guys, one of those guys who constantly rips and 613 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: yet constantly listens. It's an amazing thing on that, but 614 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: I'll send five oh seven guy. I stand by everything 615 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: I've said on Sam Donald. And what I said was 616 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: it felt very difficult to actually consider three years, one 617 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars for Sam Darnald. 618 00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 3: I did not. 619 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: It was crazy to franchise him. I said it a 620 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: bunch of times. Sean Salisbury and I talked about it. 621 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: So you can pretend to remember something I said, or 622 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: you think I didn't say, and if it makes you 623 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: feel better, go ahead. But that's what I said, And 624 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: what that also conveniently leaves out is from the beginning 625 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 2: of the off season, I said I would take the 626 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: plunge on Aaron Rodgers. Now the Daniel Jones component. I 627 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: wasn't pounding my fist on keeping Daniel Jones. However, what 628 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know at the time, I didn't even realize 629 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: that we were in the Daniel Jones sweepstakes as much 630 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: as we were. But what I will say is what 631 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: became abundantly clear is that they wanted Jones. But what 632 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: also became abundantly clear is Jones was smart enough to 633 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: understand that they were not really going to make this 634 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 2: an open quarterback competition this past season, in training camp 635 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: or the offseason, So he did the smart thing. If 636 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: they'd have been willing to say we're gonna have a competition, 637 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: is it possible, you might not have left? 638 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is possible. 639 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: But to pretend that it's only now I'm bringing up 640 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: all these other quarterback names false, It's just demonstrably false. 641 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I know it 642 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: what I said now, I don't know what five was. 643 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: I have no way of knowing what five was. Seven 644 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: guy was thinking at the time because he doesn't have 645 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: his own show. If he got his own show, maybe 646 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: I have a better understanding of it, But I'm not. 647 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: I guess you could find it somewhere in all the 648 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: podcasts if you really want to work at it. But 649 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: we discussed it now with the way the season ended. 650 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: Was I saying you have to bring Sam Darnold back. No, 651 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: I was not, but I was from the beginning, even 652 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: as a guy who liked the McCarthy drafting, who thought 653 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: it was worth taking the shot at him. I also 654 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: felt there was so little known about him at this 655 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: level that coupled with the decision the teams made, the 656 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: organization made the decisions they made in this off season, 657 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 2: which was to load up. 658 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: Nobody spent more money this offseason than we did. 659 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: Which would seem to indicate a belief that you got 660 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good infrastructure around him, At which point I'd say, 661 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: you know what, maybe you put it off another year 662 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: before you hand him the keys. 663 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 3: So none of that's revisionist thinking. 664 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: It's anybody who's listened to this show is well aware 665 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: that that's been the position at least to the host 666 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 2: of this program for for quite some time. 667 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 3: Do we have Top five at five today? Are you 668 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 3: prepared for it? I am. What do we want to 669 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 3: get to or what are we going to tease? 670 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, we got to make Kevin Fallnes happy and preview 671 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: a matchup in Toronto. 672 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: Are there any good by the way, they're okay.