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Speaker 2: or of the roses.

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Speaker 3: I'm KDWB.

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Speaker 4: I don't laugh at this war of the roses because

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: The thing is he hasn't caught anybody cheating yet. But

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Speaker 4: we got a guy named Noah on the phone, and

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Speaker 4: you're wondering, does she have the potential to be unfaithful?

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Speaker 3: I Noah.

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, thanks a lot for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, talk to me about your relationship with Layla and

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Speaker 4: what happened over the weekend and what you learned about Leila.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm really really into this girl. We've been seeing

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Speaker 3: And what you cheat on your husband or partner, your

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Speaker 3: work has nothing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So she worked at this rental car place, and

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Speaker 3: And when she.

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Speaker 1: Told me, I mean, okay, at first, it was it's

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Speaker 1: I've listening to your show a lot. So I was like, let's.

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Speaker 4: Let's give her a call. Okay, So let's back up

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Speaker 4: a little bit slowly here. So she worked at a

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Speaker 1: Tell you the name of the company.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to know the company. I don't want

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Speaker 3: So you want me to I don't want to know,

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Speaker 4: if she takes this survey from the phone company, blah

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Speaker 4: All right, stay there, Noah, and we'll.

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Speaker 3: Be right back. Yeah, you bet, Hold on one second.

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Speaker 3: I'm part two of Board the Roses on.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was married, I would cheat it

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Speaker 6: Thanks for doing that with me today. Like I said,

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Speaker 6: But for doing that. We have a wonderful promotion going

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Noah.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. You guys are going to have such a great time.

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Speaker 6: This hotel is beautiful and it's very romantic.

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Speaker 1: No, we actually get the weekend get away. Yo.

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Speaker 5: Hello, oh hey, why.

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Speaker 4: five years, you don't touch each other, somebody's gonna cheat.

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Speaker 4: Not because that was the first thing, but because you

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Speaker 4: and Randy don't touch each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's I think it's a valid

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Speaker 2: assumption to make if someone got divorced, that maybe there

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Speaker 2: was infidelity somewhere in that relationship. I'd be interested to know, Like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: if if it wasn't cheating, what was it, you know,

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Speaker 2: like maybe it was, oh, your finances or something, but like.

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Speaker 3: With each other. Yeah, so let us know.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Tina, you got divorced, but there was no cheating

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Speaker 4: at all, no.

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Speaker 1: Cheating at all, no, absolutely no infidelity. It was just

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Speaker 1: four kids and we just grew apart.

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Speaker 5: I think if we wouldn't have gotten divorced, and we did,

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Speaker 5: potentially it could have gone down that line.

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Speaker 4: That's a good observation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Tina.