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Speaker 2: Everybody that you know. There is something called the Ohio

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Speaker 2: And there is a lady whose name is Maureen Corcoran

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Speaker 1: That's all there is to it. It's not my money,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the most part, they are. I mean I

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Speaker 3: We don't want to We don't want to be accused

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Speaker 3: all that. And what it comes down to is is

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Speaker 3: these you know, these people got to be taken care of,

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Speaker 3: at least a lot of them, do, the ones that

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Speaker 3: really deserve it. And so we take advantage of this.

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Speaker 3: When I say we, I mean politicians and grifters and

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Speaker 3: all that they We're going to take advantage of this,

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Speaker 3: of this the compassion of the country, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to make this big pot, all the money so we

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Speaker 3: can all dip our hands into it. And it's just greed.

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Speaker 3: Like I talked about last week, it's just greed. I

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Speaker 3: see an opportunity to gain the system, I see an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to get mine, and I think, hey, somebody else

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Speaker 3: has been doing it, why shouldn't I. And there's just

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Speaker 3: not enough fiscal conservatives in office to make sure that

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Speaker 3: this doesn't happen, But.

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Speaker 1: It's a question. But I mean, fiscal conservatism is one thing,

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Speaker 1: but is anybody in favor of fraud? I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can't run on that. You can't run on a lax, loose,

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Speaker 1: easy to fraud or builk system. So why can't we

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Speaker 1: all rally around what seems to be a bipartisan reality,

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Speaker 1: which is, don't make it easy to commit fraud. Let's

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Speaker 1: stop it before it happens. Then you can campaign on

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Speaker 1: needing to do medicaid and a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: there need it and find let's not argue about that,

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Speaker 1: but keep people who don't need medicaid from bilking the

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Speaker 1: system and committing fraud. I don't know how you can't

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Speaker 1: build that into the system with modern technology.

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Speaker 3: Because the fraud is what makes the greed possible. Without

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Speaker 3: the fraud, without all the extra money going into these

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Speaker 3: big pots of money allegedly, which they're not really big

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Speaker 3: pots of money, we'll just keep borrowing and borrowing. But

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Speaker 3: you know, people look at like, I mean, we've mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many times that people assume that

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Speaker 3: if the federal governments involved in something, there's an endless

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Speaker 3: supply of money and because of the way government is run,

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Speaker 3: there seems to be an endless supply of money, but

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Speaker 3: there isn't an endless supply of money. But without the fraud,

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Speaker 3: people aren't going to be able to write chests for

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Speaker 3: themselves or for their family members or or whatever. All

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Speaker 3: the crap that people do to defraud the system. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to be honest because if they were honest,

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Speaker 3: that's less they would get. And that's what it comes

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Speaker 3: down to. People are greedy, they want something, they want more, whatever,

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Speaker 3: and they're not willing to only do it honestly and

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Speaker 3: get it the way they've agreed to it. They're going

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Speaker 3: to find a work around the system. That's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: So and everybody is guilty of it. All Republicans, Rhinos, Democrats, independents,

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Speaker 3: they're all guilty of it. There's a handful of people

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Speaker 3: that we can say, well, we haven't seen or heard

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Speaker 3: anything that they've done anything wrong, but everybody is guilty

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Speaker 3: of it. So what do we do get rid of

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Speaker 3: all of them? Well that's not actually possible. So what

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Speaker 3: we do is and next time there's an election coming up,

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Speaker 3: we know, generally speaking to the side of the Ledger

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Speaker 3: of these people are on. They're Democrats, they're rhinos. There

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Speaker 3: are people who are pretending to be Republicans and saying

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Speaker 3: all the right things that they don't. They don't do

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Speaker 3: the right things. They keep voting, they keep allowing this crap,

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Speaker 3: They keep allowing the federal government to come in and oh,

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Speaker 3: we'll give you a bunch of money if you let

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Speaker 3: us control this. Now, say no, say no to rhinos,

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Speaker 3: and don't vote Democrat. Have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Baron finally got it out of a system, just waiting

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Speaker 1: for that. Five forty five he talks the talk station

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Speaker 1: five fifty one fifty five care se Detalk station Monday,

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Speaker 1: and you get a stack of stupid story or two

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Speaker 1: in here. This is well. The first sentence reveals how

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Speaker 1: backcrap and saying this when we got to Lakeview, Texas,

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Speaker 1: where we got a woman pleading guilty to breaking into

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Speaker 1: her neighbor's home, fatally shooting her and drinking her blood,

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Speaker 1: do what the hell please call to the home belonging

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Speaker 1: to forty five year old Angie Melissa Moore about midnight

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Speaker 1: September sixth of twenty twenty two. Brand new story though

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Speaker 1: wearing a person that was attempted to break through the window.

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Speaker 1: When arriving at the home, officers found fifty four year

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Speaker 1: old Cynthia Ming quote completely naked close quote and covered

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Speaker 1: in blood. Corner of the affidavit fame by the outlet.

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Speaker 1: Ming attempted to flee the scene, prompting officers to deploy

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Speaker 1: a stun gun that was ineffective. One officer eventually managed

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Speaker 1: to apprehend Ming, while other officers entered Moore's home and

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Speaker 1: found her deceased and laying in a large pool of blood.

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Speaker 1: Ming told police that after she broke into the home,

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Speaker 1: she took a firearm from the victim's hands shot her

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Speaker 1: in the head with it. She claimed that she did

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Speaker 1: it because Moore quote killed her dog close quote that

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Speaker 1: accorded the affidavit. Being admitted to the hospital, Ming allegedly

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Speaker 1: told staff that she broke into Moore's house through the window,

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Speaker 1: killed her, and yes, drank her blood. Her words during

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Speaker 1: the trial, which just recently ended, Moore's family revealed years

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Speaker 1: of harassment Ming inflicted on the victim. Moore's mother called

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Speaker 1: Ming a force of pure evil that lives across the street,

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Speaker 1: saying more it had put up with aggressive, demonic harassing

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Speaker 1: for at least three years prior to the murder. Ming

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Speaker 1: pled guilty and accepted a pleatdale, resulting in her being

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Speaker 1: sentenced to fifty years in prison. Oh all right. Family

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Speaker 1: therapist Tom Kirsting talking about a case with Fox News

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Speaker 1: speaking of a Florida micro influence What is a micro influencer?

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Speaker 1: Arrested in November after making second advances on her teenage

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Speaker 1: son's friend, coursing him to touch her breast while complaining

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Speaker 1: about her husband. What I Know? Forty one year old

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Speaker 1: Lisa Marie Singh arrested outside of an Apple's and Applebe's

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Speaker 1: in November after anonymous tipster notified authorities. Singh, who had

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Speaker 1: an active warrant for arrest, was at the restaurant. She

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Speaker 1: was charged with two counts of indecent ludorless sivious touching

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Speaker 1: of certain miners in violation of parole. Jacksonville Corrections recres

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Speaker 1: indicated she remained in custody with one hundred thousand dollars bond.

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Speaker 1: Charges them from a September incident in which the alleged

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Speaker 1: he was not there. Sing lugedly invited the group of

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Speaker 1: sing quote displayed for alertatious behavior toward him, rubbing his

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Speaker 1: arms and shoulders and calling him babe. One point, the

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Speaker 1: victim was left alone in a room with her, and

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Speaker 1: he told deputies that she ranted to him him about

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Speaker 1: her husband's inability to satisfy her sexually phrasing saying allegedly

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Speaker 1: insisting that he touched them, kissed the team several times

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Speaker 1: and followed him over his clothing. Record to the court records,

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Speaker 1: the boy told authorities that he did not object because

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Speaker 1: he felt extremely awkward and uncomfortable. She's accused of threatening

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Speaker 1: to inflict harm on the team if anyone told about

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Speaker 1: the encounter. Sheriff's office noted that she did not participate

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Speaker 1: in an interviewer answer any questions, referring deputies to her lawyer.

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Speaker 1: The Florida influencer I guess micro influencer because apparently she

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Speaker 1: has only seven thousand followers on Facebook. Also thirty five

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Speaker 1: hundred followers on TikTok brands herself as hashtag boy mom

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Speaker 1: in her bio. Her attorney didnt immediately respond to Fox's

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Speaker 1: comments tions for a comment. Okay, welcome to the world

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Speaker 1: of social media. Your kids are out there all the time.

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Speaker 1: Just thought let you know you might want to do

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Speaker 1: something about that. Fivefty five, fifty five krsity talk station.

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Speaker 1: Got a whole hour of power coming up at six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Your calls are well, quite welcome. Not fired out all

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Speaker 1: soldiers this morning. My apologies to every one of the

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Speaker 1: listening audience. We'll be right back after the top of

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Speaker 1: the air news today.

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Speaker 5: It's tough headlines coming up at.

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Speaker 1: The top fifty five care talk station. It's six or

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Speaker 1: six here a fifty five carosity talk station, trying to

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Speaker 1: make it a happy Monday. In spite of everything that's going.

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Speaker 6: On in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty depressing when you look at the weekend, although

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Speaker 1: I did have a fantastic weekend. Thanks again to Mom

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Speaker 1: for the wonderful time we had, and props of folks

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Speaker 1: over at the Covidlle Theater for doing such a wonderful job.

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Speaker 1: It's Tom pointed out lots of local theaters and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of talent in the area. So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a perfect time of year to appreciate what we've got

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Speaker 1: here locally. I can't give you enough encouragement to do

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Speaker 1: just that. Five one three, seven, four nine fifty eight

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Speaker 1: case dot comedy can't listen live? Coming up in the

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Speaker 1: Morning Show seven twenty on a Monday means the smith Event,

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Speaker 1: former Vice mayor of the city since Saint Christopher Smithman

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Speaker 1: joins a program for a few segments, gets it out

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Speaker 1: of a system and also amaze us and make some

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Speaker 1: great points. Money Monday with Brian James Today fed rate cut?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for us? Anyway? Hopefully mortgage rates

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Speaker 1: will come down, won't solve the supply issue? Is there

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Speaker 1: an AI bubble and will it pop? Mmm? Can you

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Speaker 1: answer that question? Plus required minimum distribution deadline for four

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Speaker 1: got a deadline coming up and Brian James gonna tell

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Speaker 1: hear from the since a VAI Center, doctor Radika Ramananden

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Speaker 1: see here. I considering this stack of stupid in the

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Speaker 1: yet one more illustration of social media and how it

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Speaker 1: has just got this terrible impact on children, and I

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Speaker 1: had I was just sort of speculating on Australia, which

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Speaker 1: already has implemented its ban on teenagers accessing social media

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Speaker 1: now just sort of, you know, conceptually speaking, I think

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Speaker 1: it will be a great idea if children under the

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Speaker 1: age of sixteen didn't have access to social media, because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of twisted, sick criminals out there that

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Speaker 1: want to do bad things to your children. So on

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Speaker 1: its surface, it sounds really good, although after more thoughtful

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Speaker 1: analysis it turns out that that may ultimately be you know,

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Speaker 1: the segue or or you know, foray into everyone having

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Speaker 1: an online identification. In other words, we will all be numbered.

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Speaker 1: And I certainly don't like that, But isn't the solution

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Speaker 1: in our very hands. If you knew that you're a

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Speaker 1: was going into an extraordinarily dangerous situation, wouldn't you do

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Speaker 1: something to stop them from engaging in whatever behavior is

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Speaker 1: going to lead them down that path? I would like

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Speaker 1: to think everyone, Yeah, well, that's social media. And so

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Speaker 1: of course when there's a problem, government has a solution, right,

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Speaker 1: So we have lawmakers bipartisan, you know, collection of lawmakers

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Speaker 1: advancing certain bills to address violence and sexual abuse in

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Speaker 1: an effort to crack down on child exploitation. These are

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Speaker 1: your children we're talking about here. So you've got Senator

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Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley, Republican from Iola, and Dick Durbin, Chairman and

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Speaker 1: ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, introducing legislation in

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Speaker 1: an effort to come back this terrible problem that is growing.

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Speaker 1: Grassing in his statement, changes in technology have created new

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Speaker 1: opportunities for criminals to harass, exploit, intimidate, and harm American children.

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Speaker 1: These horrific crimes, often committed by violent online groups who

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Speaker 1: take advantage of our nation's outdated laws, have gone unchecked

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Speaker 1: for far too long. And I was going through this

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Speaker 1: and I kept thinking, if you know this is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Do you need a government solution? Can you not take

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Speaker 1: matters into your own hands and prevent your children from

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Speaker 1: accessing this material? Now, I know it's more complicated than

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Speaker 1: taking away the device. I always go back to my childhood. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the next door neighbor had George Carlin's LP with the

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Speaker 1: Seven Dirty Words, and hell no, you couldn't have anything

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Speaker 1: like that in the Thomas household. All you had to

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Speaker 1: do was go next door. So taking your own child's

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Speaker 1: device away from them might still allow them to go

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Speaker 1: next door and surf the web at a friend's house,

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Speaker 1: but it'll certainly cut down the volume, won't it. Dick

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Speaker 1: Durban similar comment from to grass Leaves. Because of modern technology,

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Speaker 1: child predators from anywhere in the world can target American

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Speaker 1: kids online. This technology has evolved, so have online child exploiters. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's like going back to fraud wasted abuse. If you

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Speaker 1: figure out there's a way to get access and commit

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Speaker 1: a crime and in yours to your benefit, whether financially

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Speaker 1: or because you are a sick, twisted individual who thinks

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Speaker 1: exploiting children is a good idea, Welcome to the Internet.

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Speaker 1: So we have the first of multiple pieces of legislation

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Speaker 1: the Echo Act Ending Coercion of Children and Harm Online Act.

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Speaker 1: It creates new climes crimes explicitly prohibiting coercing children into

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Speaker 1: physically harming themselves or others. Penalty for committing the crime

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Speaker 1: includes sentencing that could put it a perpetrator in prison

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Speaker 1: for life. Fine. If it passes, it'll impose a thirty

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Speaker 1: year maximum penalty for conduct that is harmful to the

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Speaker 1: victim but doesn't involve death. Now why would they bring

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Speaker 1: this about, Well, increase in activity of dangerous groups that

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Speaker 1: prey on children online. Welcome to the seven to six

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Speaker 1: FORI network, particularly nefarious and twisted. The FBI is tracking

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Speaker 1: what they call nihilistic violent extremists to engage in criminal

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Speaker 1: conducts seeking to destroy civilized society through the corruption and

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Speaker 1: exploitation of vulnerable populations. Well, there's a mouthful. According to

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Speaker 1: the FBI, though, the network's methodically target and exploit miners

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Speaker 1: and others, threatening blackmail in other forms of manipulation to

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Speaker 1: course or extort victims. So take this illustration. Mother of

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Speaker 1: a child exploited by this seven six y four group

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Speaker 1: told the National Center from Misinexploited Children that the individual

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Speaker 1: pushed her daughter to cut the member's screen name into

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Speaker 1: her arm with a razor blade. Then after she did that,

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Speaker 1: was told that she was a good girl and that

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Speaker 1: this person loved her, And to mom's surprise, the daughter responded,

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Speaker 1: I love you too.

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Speaker 4: Nah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, probably one of the lesser crimes committed. By what

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Speaker 1: I've read about this seven to six y four group,

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Speaker 1: She said, these guys are very scary. This is the

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Speaker 1: mom whose daughter cut the name into her arm. Just

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Speaker 1: the power they have over my daughter is mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: Please help exclamation point. And that's when I go back

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Speaker 1: to the conclusion. Is it that difficult to help your

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Speaker 1: daughter get away from that stuff? Is there not a

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Speaker 1: mechanism or something you can engage in, like taking the

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Speaker 1: devices away from them or using one of the many

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Speaker 1: tools out there that Dave Hadters brought up time to

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Speaker 1: time on the Tech Friday segment. There are resources out

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Speaker 1: there that allow you to either track what your children

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Speaker 1: are doing or prevent them from gaining access to it.

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Speaker 1: Do you need a law to help your children stay

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Speaker 1: away from these evil people? I don't think you do.

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Speaker 1: I can't be the one taking the social media device

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Speaker 1: away from my child. I'll be that parent. I don't

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Speaker 1: want my kids to hate me, really, oh so allowing

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Speaker 1: them access to a group like seven sixty four who

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Speaker 1: are actively going after your children are using the Internet

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Speaker 1: in any way humanly possible to well engage in their

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Speaker 1: twisted perversions. Next up, the Stop Sextortion Act, sponsored by

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Speaker 1: the same Judiciary committeeads allow with law enforcement to target

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Speaker 1: those who distribute sexual abuse materials as a way of

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Speaker 1: controlling intimidating children. The bill would increase the maximum penalty

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Speaker 1: for these offenses from five years to ten years. Lawmakers,

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Speaker 1: citing data from the National Center for Missing Exploited Children,

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Speaker 1: reported that in twenty twenty four, the number of tips

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Speaker 1: sent to the tip line about quote sadistic online exploitation

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Speaker 1: jump more than two hundred percent over the prior year.

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Speaker 1: It's a growing thing. Tips to the National Center for

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Speaker 1: Missing and Exploited Children included ongune groups or individuals encouraging

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Speaker 1: children to harm themselves, including cutting, creating child sexual abuse

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Speaker 1: materials and sexually exploiting other children, including their own siblings,

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Speaker 1: harming animals and committing murder and taking their own lives. Well,

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Speaker 1: hell yeah, that's something I want my children. Call those

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Speaker 1: two said many instances involve financial threats by criminals who

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Speaker 1: convince the victims to send graphic images and then demanded money.

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Speaker 1: Oh one more, The Safe Act Sentencing Accountability for Exploitation

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Speaker 1: Act seeks to repeal outdated sentencing for those involved in

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Speaker 1: the production, distribution, and child sex abuse materials. The bill

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Speaker 1: will require the US Sentencing Commission to develop sentencing guidelines

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Speaker 1: specifically for this type of material that can take into

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Speaker 1: account modern problems relating to the dangerous conduct sentencing guidelines.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that is directed towards the judges out there who

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Speaker 1: might give these twisted perverts a pass after they've been

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Speaker 1: proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, or cop cop to

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Speaker 1: plead having done it. Well, i'd let them out, but

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Speaker 1: according to the sentencing guidelines, I've got a sentence of

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Speaker 1: the prison. Yeah. Well, someone's out there making you do

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Speaker 1: your damn job. FBI is warning of a sharp increase

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Speaker 1: in activities from not just seven to six y four group,

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Speaker 1: but similar or other networks are out there. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: more than just one. According to the National Center for

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Speaker 1: Missing Exploited Children, the group is producing this is their word.

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Speaker 1: Some of the most sadistic online enticement reports it's ever seen.

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Speaker 1: The group has been known to prey on victims as

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Speaker 1: young as nine years old, and to which I think, huh,

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Speaker 1: a nine year old has access to all this social media?

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Speaker 1: Why why tell me I'm wrong? Five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty eight hundred and eighty two to three talk

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Speaker 1: Pound five fifty on eight and t fune save me

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Speaker 1: for myself. And these are just sentencing guidelines. You got

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Speaker 1: to catch the bad guys. You got to prove the

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Speaker 1: crime be on a reasonable doubt for these sentencing guidelines

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Speaker 1: to even come into play. Your child could be the

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Speaker 1: one that's exploited, and maybe they won't find the perpetrators.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the sentencing guidelines won't even come into play because

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Speaker 1: the person who influenced your child that cut themselves, harm

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Speaker 1: themselves or take a selfie while they're NEWT is somewhere

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Speaker 1: out in the ether, somewhere in the world. Six seventeen

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr s the talk station. Really that's really

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Speaker 1: just fifty five KRZE the talk station six twenty two

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, and a happy one to you. I

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Speaker 1: got to go to the phones, and thank god I

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Speaker 1: can do that. Five one, three, seven, four, nine hundred

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two three Talk Jamie, thanks for calling

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Speaker 1: this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian, thank you. Yeah, this topic of social

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Speaker 7: media and kids just grabbed me. I own a school,

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Speaker 7: we do no technology, we do no phones. I go

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Speaker 7: through eighth grade, and I am seeing in real time

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Speaker 7: the difference in the family who allow phone and pads

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Speaker 7: and all of that with the families who don't. And

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Speaker 7: I don't think people have any idea the shutdown that's

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Speaker 7: happening and the children, with their brains and their hearts

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Speaker 7: and their ability to socialize, it is. It's so critical,

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Speaker 7: and yet it's difficult to get the message out to

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Speaker 7: families because frankly, it's very difficult to keep that away

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Speaker 7: from your kids when the rest of the world is

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Speaker 7: doing that.

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Speaker 1: Well. See, and I understand that component, Jamie. You know

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Speaker 1: you don't want to be that parent. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: your parents won't let you have social media? What kind

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Speaker 1: of house do you live in? You know, it might

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Speaker 1: create some source of stress between you and your children.

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Speaker 1: But you know, my philosophy has always been I'm not

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Speaker 1: my children's friend, I'm their parent. I'm there to provide

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Speaker 1: guidance and wisdom and keep them out of harm's way.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I haven't been completely successful, but my

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Speaker 1: wife and I tried. Unfortunately, my kids were just a

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Speaker 1: step or two ahead of this vast wasteland that is

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Speaker 1: social media. But if you move from social media and

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Speaker 1: you think about the hours and weeks and you know,

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Speaker 1: years of time kids spend just mindlessly staring at a

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Speaker 1: video game. To your point, they're not socializing, they're not

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Speaker 1: engaged in person of person communication, they're not out playing

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Speaker 1: in the sunshine. So you know, that was the fore

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Speaker 1: way into where we are now, which is this twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven interaction. And now it's moving over to

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence where they're having conversations with AI and they

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Speaker 1: even think that they're a real person out there in

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Speaker 1: the world, or pretend that AI is a real human being.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing but bad I can see in any of this.

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Speaker 7: Jamie, Right, And I think if adults think about, like

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Speaker 7: when we grew up, we had our sphere of influence,

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Speaker 7: was our physical sphere of influence. So we were protected

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Speaker 7: in many ways because we were only navigating what was

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Speaker 7: in front of our face, or in our neighborhood or

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Speaker 7: in our school. Yeah, and the kids have absolutely no

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Speaker 7: cognitive or developmental ability to process and understand this stake world,

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Speaker 7: and it is it really is devastating. I am seeing

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Speaker 7: some schools kind of pulling back and taking technology back,

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Speaker 7: but they're putting two year olds on iPads and daycares

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Speaker 7: in the public schools. They're putting five year olds on

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Speaker 7: iPads in kindergarten, and they're wondering why they're not reading,

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Speaker 7: and why they're not doing math, and why they can't

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Speaker 7: problem solved with a friend, you know, Jamie, can.

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Speaker 1: I just ask, is that the modern day equivalent of

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Speaker 1: the teacher just flipping a movie on rather than teaching

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Speaker 1: children in class? Remember those days?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 7: Well, yes I do. And you know, I think it's

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Speaker 7: way worse than that for sure. But it is a disconnect. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's a massive disconnect, you know, and it's a deeper disconnect,

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Speaker 7: and it's a more you know, devastating one. Because I've

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Speaker 7: also asked families to take technology away from their kids.

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Speaker 7: And when we see that, it is amazing, but it

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Speaker 7: takes a lot of time to come out of it

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Speaker 7: and to kind of, you know, find the child within

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Speaker 7: this world that they have been in. And it's not

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Speaker 7: you can't ever do it fully because they've already you know,

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Speaker 7: experienced it. But it is you know it is also

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Speaker 7: you can do it. You know, you can take it

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Speaker 7: away and change your mind and just stand firm and

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Speaker 7: your family because it's worth it, because we're literally losing kids.

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Speaker 7: We're losing them in their minds and we're losing them

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Speaker 7: to death because they're seeing things on social media and

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Speaker 7: the people who don't realize that there are entities out

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Speaker 7: there after the kids, you know, are not paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every evil in the world that you can possibly

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Speaker 1: come up with is a little key stroke away from

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Speaker 1: your children and use as I mean, use your imagination.

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Speaker 1: Think of the worst possible thing you can come up with.

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Speaker 1: And let's say, Okay, I hear it, I see it

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Speaker 1: in my head. I can I can envision that it's there,

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Speaker 1: it's online, and you got a nine year old consuming

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Isn't there something you can do

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Speaker 1: about it? Of course there is. Jamie has proved it.

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Speaker 1: Take it away from them. Six twenty seven fifty five

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Speaker 1: Caresy the talk station, Maureen hold On, I definitely want

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Speaker 1: to hear from you, but amount of time and I

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Speaker 1: want to mention Pharisee Deep Talk Station. Coming about six

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Speaker 1: thirty two. Fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Love hearing from

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Speaker 1: the listeners five on three Seedy two to three Talk Marie,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for holding over the break there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five Carcene Morning Show.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Brian. As you may remember, President Trump signed

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Speaker 6: a bill on November twentieth, and they ordered the release

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Speaker 6: of the government files on Epstein. Yes, and he gave

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Speaker 6: it thirty days to publicly share all the information from

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Speaker 6: federal investigations into the Epstein information. So that thirty day

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Speaker 6: period will be up this Friday. And I thought that's

858
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Speaker 6: interesting because two days prior to that, this coming Wednesday,

859
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Speaker 6: if Bill Clinton is due for his deposition and Thursday

860
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Speaker 6: Hillary is due for her deposition, and they've been warned

861
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Speaker 6: by James Comer to not stall anymore because they were

862
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Speaker 6: supposed to do that last month anyway, So they've been

863
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Speaker 6: warned that they have to appear or they will suffer

864
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Speaker 6: contempt of court charges. That's coming up this week.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: They were also given that they could reschedule for January,

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Speaker 6: which is what they'll probably do. But I think it's

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Speaker 6: kind of interesting that their schedule is the Wednesday and

869
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Speaker 6: Thursday and then Friday is when the when Trump's information

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Speaker 6: is due. So I think that timing is pretty pretty interesting.

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Speaker 6: One other thing I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I just want to do is a subpoena related

873
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Speaker 1: to the Epstein files.

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Speaker 6: Oh, definitely. The House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, he

875
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Speaker 6: warned them that they were due. They what they did

876
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Speaker 6: was they stem the stems from a subpoena by the

877
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Speaker 6: Federal Law Enforcement Subcommittee back in July, and it author

878
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Speaker 6: authorized testimony from ten high profile individuals, including Clinton, William Barr,

879
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Speaker 6: Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, and James Comey. So that's they're

880
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Speaker 6: blumped into that group. And that's a this week. So

881
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 6: another interesting thing is, you know I listened to the

882
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Speaker 6: General's podcasts and things like that. Well, it's it's being

883
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Speaker 6: said that we should be expecting a national election emergency

884
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Speaker 6: from President Trump and after that because of the things

885
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Speaker 6: that we learned from ADUA whistleblower about all the election

886
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Speaker 6: fraud that happened domestically and internationally and the interference on

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Speaker 6: our elections, and also coupled with the Tina Peters information,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you've been following the story on her.

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Speaker 6: She's the Mesa County, Colorado. She was the clerk, the

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Speaker 6: county clerk in Colorado, and they used a minion voting

891
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 6: machines on the twenty twenty election and people were after

892
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 6: that election, people were questioning the down ballot results and

893
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Speaker 6: so what happened was she started to look into it.

894
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Speaker 6: Even though Trump won in that area, the down ballot

895
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Speaker 6: in election results did not match up. So when they

896
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Speaker 6: called for that, she wanted to look into it. So

897
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Speaker 6: she contacted Dominion about that and they said they were

898
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Speaker 6: going to be sending somebody out to do what's called

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Speaker 6: a trusted build and that's where you review the software,

900
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Speaker 6: and she had about she didn't really trust that, so

901
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Speaker 6: she wanted to go ahead and do a picture of

902
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Speaker 6: her machine before they came and did that trusted built,

903
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Speaker 6: And she asked if she could do that and they

904
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Speaker 6: said no. Well, she found that it was in her

905
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Speaker 6: job description that she would be allowed to do that,

906
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Speaker 6: so she took it upon herself to have an IT

907
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Speaker 6: specialist come in and do just that. They made a

908
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Speaker 6: copy of a machine with photographs and basically did a

909
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Speaker 6: friends at copy. Well, then Dominion came out and they

910
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Speaker 6: did their trusted build. After they left, she had an

911
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Speaker 6: after copy done and it didn't match up. They said

912
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Speaker 6: twenty nine thousand files had been deleted or altered. So

913
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Speaker 6: apparently the people that did the electrical part of this,

914
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Speaker 6: they'd been testifying in their own protective custody and grand juries.

915
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Speaker 6: So that with that information that Trump has coupled with

916
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Speaker 6: the Maduro information, it's believed by these generals that he's

917
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Speaker 6: going to have a national election emergency, which will then

918
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Speaker 6: write an executive order outlining how our future elections will

919
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Speaker 6: be held. So it is strongly believed that by the

920
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Speaker 6: time our midterms come, we're going to have hand counted,

921
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Speaker 6: watermarked paper ballots, clean voter rolls, and in person election results.

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Speaker 6: You won't have any machines. There will be no mailed

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Speaker 6: ballots and no drop boxes.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting lawsuit that will certainly ensue after that

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Speaker 1: if it is that declaration, Because of course federal elections

926
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Speaker 1: are one thing that you have state elections which are

927
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Speaker 1: governed by state law, so interesting constitutional challenge will be

928
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Speaker 1: most certainly following that. But I'll take anything that will

929
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Speaker 1: result in our faith in elections. But declaring an election

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Speaker 1: emergency sounds to me like one more thing which reduces

931
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Speaker 1: the amount of faith we have in the United States

932
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Speaker 1: government generally. And so the development in and of itself

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Speaker 1: is troubling to me. But if there's a genesis, so

934
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Speaker 1: there's a reason for having to go down this road,

935
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Speaker 1: which of course you've been following for a long time, Marine,

936
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Speaker 1: then it's a road we need to go down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, one important thing. Tina Peters is in prison.

938
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Speaker 6: She's been there a year and a half for this.

939
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Speaker 6: She's dying of cancer. She was in remission and now

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Speaker 6: they can't get her out. Trump pardoned her last week,

941
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Speaker 6: and Colorado refuses to give her up. So there might

942
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Speaker 6: be a real standoff in Colorado that people keep an

943
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Speaker 6: eye on because this is going to be pretty big.

944
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Speaker 6: It sounds like, yeah, she's getting abused in prison.

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Speaker 1: It just further to my point originally when you first

946
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Speaker 1: were bringing up election challenges, it's like you got to

947
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Speaker 1: wait for the information to come out, and look at

948
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Speaker 1: how long it's taken for this type of information to

949
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Speaker 1: come out. It's slow. The wheels of justice are very slow.

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Speaker 1: So I do appreciate you staying on top of it. Maureene,

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Speaker 1: hour at seven twenty uh Governor of Wine. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you on my listening audience not real thrilled with

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Speaker 1: Governor of Wine overall. But you can make your own

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Speaker 1: decisions on that. But in terms of endorsing who's the

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Speaker 1: next governor, he's not endorsing Vvke Ramaswamy yet. Anyway, what's

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Speaker 1: the problem. Look, Reporter Morgan Trow sat down with him.

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Speaker 1: I think whoever the successor is, I'm sure that they

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Speaker 1: care very very deeply about Ohio and they'll do a

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Speaker 1: good job. According to Governor to Wine, you got two

970
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Speaker 1: people right now, is anybody else running for governor beyond

971
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Speaker 1: Amy Acton and Vvke Ramaswami. Viveke Ramaswami has the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party endorsement, does he not, Charl asked him. Of the

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Speaker 1: two people who are seeing as top candidates, you have

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Speaker 1: Amy Acton on the Democrat sidet. You have Vvke Ramaswamy

975
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Speaker 1: who's the republic on the Republican side. You and hear

976
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Speaker 1: very very different personality, but also policy beliefs. Do you

977
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable endorsing somebody who differs from you on school's, health,

978
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Speaker 1: education and immigration. I'm across the board with Vvke on

979
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Speaker 1: those issues. Anyway. To Wine, Well, first of all, I've

980
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: said I'm going to endorse the Republican nominee for governor,

981
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Speaker 1: and Vvke and I have sat down right here and

982
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Speaker 1: had a number of conversations. I think three very long conversations,

983
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Speaker 1: he thinks anyway, and our plans are to continue to

984
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Speaker 1: do that talk and to have more conversations. I'm not

985
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Speaker 1: sure that we're that far apart. Really, he has not

986
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: been in office before, and what I'm simply trying to

987
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Speaker 1: do is relate some of the experiences that I've had

988
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Speaker 1: in my fifty years in government. And I also talk

989
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: to him and hear from him about where he thinks

990
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Ohio needs to go and what his goals are. Is

991
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: he having a similar conversation with Amy Lockdown acting, Oh,

992
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: you think he should be talking to himself in the mirror,

993
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: Joe and have a deep conversation with his own actions

994
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: as governor. There's an interesting thought, little introspection, perhaps, So

995
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: trou asked him directly. Has vv Ramaswamy not earned your

996
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: endorsement yet? Dwine? I think it's a process. I didn't

997
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: know him. I met him a couple of times, but

998
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: didn't really know him. An endorsement is a serious thing,

999
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know how impactful it is. I'm not

1000
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: sure that people really care who endorses whom. I think

1001
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: ultimately it comes down to the candidate. So the endorsement

1002
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: I think is hyped a lot more than it really

1003
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Speaker 1: is worth. But for me, I want to get to

1004
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: know him. I'm still doing that. We're still discussing issues,

1005
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: but I fully expect to endorse the Republican nominee for governor.

1006
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed these conversations. Blah blah blah. So he

1007
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Speaker 1: hasn't endorsed him, he does have the Republican Party nomination.

1008
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Speaker 1: I'm again, is there somebody else running as a Republican

1009
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Speaker 1: anybody else have an opportunity that is better than vi

1010
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Speaker 1: Vike Ramaswamy. And you know what he does know and

1011
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: has talked to many many times, probably more than three. Yeah,

1012
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Speaker 1: Amy acting. And interestingly enough, throughout all this conversation that

1013
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Speaker 1: he had with with mister Trow Morgan Troud doing the interview,

1014
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Speaker 1: he didn't ever reject Amy acting as a viable candidate.

1015
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Speaker 6: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: I know that's left me with certain conclusions about the

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Speaker 1: current governor. Six forty six fifty five K see the

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Speaker 1: talk station when I'm fifty five hundred eight D two

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Speaker 1: three talk and I jump over to the phones. I

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Speaker 1: have Jennifer on the line. Jennifer, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: calling this morning. Happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 9: Oh, happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 8: Brian, thank you.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to tell you the first time I heard

1025
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Speaker 9: Vivic talk, I was voting for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And the other thing is he my mother went to

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Speaker 9: Xavier Girls High School downtown years aig go. So my

1029
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Speaker 9: mom is a Xavier Muskie. And well she's not here anymore.

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Speaker 9: I mean she passed away at.

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine I just I'd like as if having, you know,

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Speaker 1: being a Muskie or not is really the the what

1033
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Speaker 1: it comes down to when voting for governor of the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. I'm just was chopped over that.

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Speaker 9: I know, in my opinion, he's my guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's brilliant.

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Speaker 9: And I really he's a very smart and intelligent man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, he doesn't need the job, Jennifer.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing. He's like independently wealthy. I kind of

1040
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Speaker 1: I have a profound appreciation for someone who does sort

1041
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Speaker 1: of the noble thing. It's like our forefathers. They would

1042
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Speaker 1: serve in government. They would leave their farm, serve in

1043
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Speaker 1: government for a term or two, and then go back

1044
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Speaker 1: and work the land. You know, this wasn't a permanent position.

1045
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Speaker 1: They weren't in government for fifty years. Like Mike Dwine right,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, don't even bring his name up. Something

1048
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Speaker 9: to be said, but Govivet, that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Go there you go. Thanks for the college, Jennifer, I

1050
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. And thanks to Maren who just forwarded an

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Speaker 1: article to me. And I had seen this article. But

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Speaker 1: let's put two and two together. So he has not

1053
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Speaker 1: endorsed Ramaswamy, but he hasn't rejected Amy acting either, but

1054
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Speaker 1: he is providing some cover for her. Amy lockdown acting.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't her decision. It was mine. The

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Speaker 1: decisions that were made during COVID, they were my Governor

1057
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Speaker 1: Dewayne's decision. So no one should blame someone else if

1058
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Speaker 1: they don't like it. The buck stops with me. Now

1059
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Speaker 1: I agree with that follow up point. Buck stops with him.

1060
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Speaker 1: But who did he rely on her? He didn't make

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Speaker 1: this no drinking after ten o'clock roll up. That was

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Speaker 1: doctor lockdown acting. Right spokesperson for Ramaswamy, Connie luck Quota,

1063
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Speaker 1: is saying, well she led. She led, OHI to be

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Speaker 1: the first date to shut down public schools during COVID,

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Speaker 1: causing thousands of students to suffer from mental health and

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Speaker 1: academic consequences, which I will acknowledge. We did really know

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen until while we got the results

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Speaker 1: after the lockdown and found out our children are struggling mightily.

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Speaker 1: She was responsible for signing orders to close businesses and

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Speaker 1: other spaces as the state Health Director, which was an

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Speaker 1: emergency power that was granted by Governor Mike Dwine. Here's

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Speaker 1: a quote Alex Cheranta Filo, you might have heard of him,

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Speaker 1: chairman of the High Republican Party, say what you want

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Speaker 1: about the Higher Republican Party said well, he says, well,

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Speaker 1: we love the governor, whether or not you do. He

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Speaker 1: is chairman of the Republican Party. So Alex really is

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Speaker 1: obligated to say something like that. But he also followed

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Speaker 1: through with this. He's not a scientist. He again, Governor

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Speaker 1: de Wine is not a medical doctor. He relied on

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Speaker 1: her and she got it wrong. Amy Lockdown acted, Dayne said,

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Speaker 1: I got advice from her. I got advice from people

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Speaker 1: around the country. I was trying to get as much

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Speaker 1: information as I could about something that we did not

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Speaker 1: know much about, and I made the decisions based upon that.

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Speaker 1: But they were my decisions. They were not. They were

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Speaker 1: not he said it twice, her decisions. Why is he

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Speaker 1: providing cover for her? If you're the Republican governor of

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Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, a red state as dysfunctional as

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Speaker 1: we are, even in an all red state, why would

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Speaker 1: you offer words of support for the Democrat nominee of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat challenger for governor of the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate question to ask, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is his deal? And you know, if he was

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Speaker 1: getting information or advice from around the country. They didn't

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Speaker 1: lock things down in Florida, I recall him locking things

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Speaker 1: down in Texas. Either those states thrived and survived during

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Speaker 1: the entire period of time. Who did they rely on?

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Speaker 1: That governor of Wine apparently had information in fact that

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Speaker 1: he chose not to follow their path. It makes for

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation. Elections have consequences. Let's not do it

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Speaker 1: to ourselves again. And if you've got a problem with

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Speaker 1: Viva Ramaswami, I'd love to know what it is. That's

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Speaker 1: an interesting thing if you're against the man for any

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Speaker 1: particular reason. Not that you're endorsing necessarily any acting, but

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Speaker 1: if you've got a problem with Ramaswami, I'm curious to know,

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Speaker 1: because I really can't find anything that I can fault

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Speaker 1: him with. Brilliant man, successful and might be free of

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: the fraud, wasted abuse concerns that a lot of us

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Speaker 1: have about politicians who have nothing end up leaving office

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Speaker 1: multi multi millionaires. He's already achieved that status, coming up

1111
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Speaker 1: with six fifty six ifty five K city talk stations.

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Speaker 1: Stick around. Simith, theman's going to join the program at

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Speaker 1: seven twenty. We've a little talked about between now and then.

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Speaker 1: I sure hope you can wait around for that.

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Speaker 5: Today's top headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's seven oh six fifty five, karsee de talk station.

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Speaker 1: Try to make it a happy Monday. It's got to

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Speaker 1: be something positive out there in the world. And love

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Speaker 1: to say happy Honika of my Jewish friends. But of course,

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Speaker 1: this terrible tragedy in Australia with sixteen dead and forty wounded.

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Speaker 1: He cast a paul over the entire honic A season.

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Speaker 1: It's just terrible, you know, I just have to observe.

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Speaker 1: I have never understood anti Semitism. I really haven't ever,

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Speaker 1: And of course it predates the creation of Israel, so

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Speaker 1: people have hated Jews for a long time. I understand.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that racism? You hate a people because of their race.

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Speaker 1: I think that is definitionally anti Semitism. A father and

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Speaker 1: son were the ones responsible for this horrific mass shooting. Again,

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Speaker 1: sixteen people dead and one of the gunman thankfully is dead.

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Speaker 1: The other one is hospitalized. Porn of the New South

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Speaker 1: Wales Police Commissioner maol Landen. Where were the police anyway?

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Speaker 1: These people were firing into a group of Jewish people

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Speaker 1: celebrating the beginning of Honukkah and they were able to

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Speaker 1: do so for more than ten minutes. Fifty year old

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Speaker 1: men and a twenty four year old son were responsible

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Speaker 1: for it. Again, Dad is dead. Son in critical but

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Speaker 1: stable condition in the hospital. Oh look in you can't

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Speaker 1: have a gun in Australia. He was the father a

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Speaker 1: licensed gun on her own, six legally registered firearms. They're

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Speaker 1: all recovered. Of course, they did a raid on his

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Speaker 1: place after the murders. The murders were committed. Commissioner told

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Speaker 1: reporters that the father met the eligibility criteria for a

1143
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Speaker 1: hunting license used for recreational hunting classified as a Category

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Speaker 1: A Slash B firearms license, which allowed him to possess

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Speaker 1: the well the long guns that he had. He had

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01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: shotgun and long guns. Was a bolt action rifle involved

1147
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Speaker 1: in his shootings as well as a shotgun. Commission also

1148
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Speaker 1: to reporters that the father held the gun licenses for

1149
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Speaker 1: ten years, so ten years without going around and murdering anybody.

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Speaker 1: Was he radicalized at some point between gun ownership approval

1151
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: and well the other day police commissioner said there was

1152
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Speaker 1: very little knowledge of either of these men by the authorities.

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01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: The person was determined to be entitled to have the

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Speaker 1: firearms license, and the person had firearms license for a

1155
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Speaker 1: number of years for which there were no incidents. Anybody

1156
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a call for no firearm

1157
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Speaker 1: licenses under any circumstances whatsoever. And will you as a

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Speaker 1: society feel better if that is in fact the law

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Speaker 1: where only criminals own firearms and you're not entitled to

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Speaker 1: have one. Hmmm and wow, what an amazing display of heroism.

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Speaker 1: I hope you've seen the video. If not, it's worth

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Speaker 1: checking out. Ahmed ah Ahmed forty three years old, a

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Speaker 1: true hero. He wrestled that gun from the one of

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Speaker 1: the attackers while that person was firing into the crowd.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, My first reaction was

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Speaker 1: when he wrestled that gun away from him and pointed

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Speaker 1: at the at the time person who was murdering the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people on the beach. I thought he was gonna

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Speaker 1: squeeze a round off. I couldn't blame him. He is,

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Speaker 1: of course, being held as a hero, which is everyone

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Speaker 1: should there's actually a go Fundme page that's been opened

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Speaker 1: up for him. As of yesterday, I guess over a

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Speaker 1: million dollars has been put together for the hero. Joe

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Speaker 1: Strecker observed, and I thought it was a comical comment,

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Speaker 1: intended to be comical under very tragic circumstances. He wondered

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Speaker 1: if the Australian authorities are going to charge Ahmed Ahmed,

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Speaker 1: the hero in this matter, for holding onto a gun

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Speaker 1: that he didn't have a license for that temporary period

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Speaker 1: of time Joe where he was after he wrestled the gun.

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: It's possible, It's certainly possible. They also found improvised explosive

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Speaker 1: devices apparently at the scene and in one of the

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Speaker 1: homes where they executed the search warrant. Apparently they were

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Speaker 1: active IEDs and ultimately rendered safe by the police. It

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Speaker 1: was an annual celebration they called it Honika by the Sea,

1185
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: scheduled to start at five pm to celebrate the first

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Speaker 1: day of the Jewish holiday by lighting the first candle

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Speaker 1: of the Minora. Shooting happened about an hour after the

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Speaker 1: celebration started. And as anybody else think that more of

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Speaker 1: this is going to happen, I think it goes without saying,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. And they broke up a ring that was

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01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: going to commit horrific acts against the Jewish people in

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Speaker 1: Europe the other day. So this kind of thing is

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Speaker 1: going on all the time. I just don't understand the hatred,

1194
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: where it comes from or why. You know, it's so

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:14,520
Speaker 1: reminiscent of October seventh. Innocent people at a concert, children

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Speaker 1: elderly slaughtered, horrifically slaughtered and in the most barbaric ways

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Speaker 1: you can think of. And there are people in this

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Speaker 1: world in the aftermath of October seventh celebrated it. You know,

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Speaker 1: going back to my concern over the evils that exist

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: in the world and the Internet that your children are

1201
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: consuming every single day. You know, now they've got, oh

1202
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: bipartisan solution, We're going to make it more of a

1203
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: crime when you interfere with children and harm them. And fine,

1204
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: but this is the kind of thing that's floating around

1205
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: on the internet praising October seventh, and I'm sure praising

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01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: these two clowns, these murderers, for killing a bunch of

1207
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: Jewish people that are trying to merely celebrate a very

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Speaker 1: important event in the Jewish tradition. Celebrating it. I don't

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: know where to go on that one. I just really don't. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and thanks Maureene. I always give Maureene a hard time

1211
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: because she has the conspiracy theories more first and foremost

1212
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 1: more than anybody else. She's right there at the ready

1213
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: with conspiracy theories. I know you're a pattern observer, Maureen,

1214
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: But in connection with the Rob Reiner and wife being

1215
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: stabbed to death in their La home, there are already

1216
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: rumors circulating on the Internet that they're they were involved

1217
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: with Oh I don't know, Ebstein this or something that.

1218
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: And so there's all kinds of rumors, accusations, and speculations

1219
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: already floating around on the Internet to suggest something very nefarious,

1220
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Speaker 1: not just a random murderer, maybe just not their drug

1221
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: adult son, but something bigger than that. I'm gonna keep

1222
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Speaker 1: my powder dry on that with Marine, if you don't mind,

1223
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: I'll wait for the evidence to come out, because a

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: couple of random music typed by somebody out in the

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: internet ether doesn't do it for me in terms of proof,

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: at least lead for more information to come out about

1227
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: that anyhow. So let's celebrate the heroics that actually we

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01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: got to witness yesterday. It takes the sting out of

1229
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: the horrific murders, and you realize that you can make

1230
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Speaker 1: a tremendous impact. And one can only speculate how many

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: additional people would have been killed, would have been murdered

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: had that man not stepped up, not armed, just hiding

1233
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: behind a car, leaping out to tackle a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: Do you have an inu to do something like that?

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: You know, at one hundred and seventy five pounds, I'm

1236
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: not the first person to think that I have an

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: emmy to do something like that, But you know what,

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: at least I possess a great equalizer, actually quite a

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: few of them. Yeah, honest with you, I appreciate that

1240
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: we have a second amendment. And again going back to

1241
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: where in the hell were the police? There are one

1242
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: that's it's a it's an announced ahead of time celebration,

1243
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: and there were one thousand plus Jewish people there to

1244
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: celebrate Hanukkah. Isn't that an event you think cops might

1245
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,959
Speaker 1: be at just maybe given the level of anti Semitism

1246
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: that's going on in this world, advanced planning, perhaps when

1247
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: seconds count. Going back to my appreciation for the second Amendment.

1248
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: Let's keep that right, Let's not let it go anywhere,

1249
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: because I think we all know a good lesson by

1250
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: now that you know when we need help right away,

1251
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: Quite often it's not there. Fifteen fifty five KCD talk

1252
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: station Christopher Smith had been coming up next looking forward

1253
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: to for God bless you, sir. I hope you had

1254
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend.

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Speaker 8: Thank you brother. You know, I've got to start off

1256
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 8: with I think the most serious topic, but I have

1257
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 8: so much to talk about. I don't even know where

1258
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 8: to where to start, quite frankly, Brian. But you know,

1259
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 8: I was listening to your show like I always do it,

1260
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 8: and I don't understand anti Semitism myself, Like I don't

1261
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 8: know where it comes from. Where you have somebody to

1262
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 8: people that are willing to just kill people randomly on

1263
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Speaker 8: a beach, shoot women, shoot children, shoot the elderly. I mean,

1264
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Speaker 8: I've been listening to your show and it's hard to

1265
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 8: get your head wrapped around how does somebody get to

1266
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 8: that point? Number two, the heroism of the Australian man

1267
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Speaker 8: forty three years old who just stepped in right, And

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you there are a lot of people

1269
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 8: those of you who are listening. There are a lot

1270
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 8: of people that don't have the kohunas to make that

1271
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 8: move away.

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Speaker 1: They have their cell phone, they be video recording the

1273
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Speaker 1: whole thing.

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Speaker 8: On one hundred percent, this dude put everything on the

1275
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 8: line because that could have turned and got shot.

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Speaker 1: He got god actually I read one report he got

1277
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Speaker 1: shot four or five times. He got hit in the

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Speaker 1: arm at least twice. So yeah, the other gunman was

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: was just over to the to his side and he's

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: standing on the bridge shooting people while he attacked the

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Speaker 1: guy with a shotgun.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is anybody watching that video

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 8: and I'm sure you guys haven't posted up on your website,

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01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 8: I haven't posted up on my on my x page

1285
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 8: to watch the heroism of that man approaching because he

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 8: had to think. He was trying to figure out because

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01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 8: that guy could have turned the gun immediately, get a

1288
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 8: turget on him, could have heard him coming in at second.

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Speaker 8: He's gone in a second. So this guy says, I'm

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01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 8: gonna put everything on the line, my life. We got

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01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 8: it on video. This guy is a real hero and

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01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 8: he absolutely saved lives on that beach. I don't understand

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01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 8: anti Semitism, don't. I can't get my head wrapped around it.

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 8: And what blows me away is the Austrians are having

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 8: discussions about meaning they have taken guns out of all

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 8: the legal hands of everybody, leaving everybody else really open

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01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 8: right to be shot. I don't understand this discussion in

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 8: our country when we have these things happen, that we

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 8: fall back on too many guns. This is a gun issue.

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01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 8: This da da dah, and I'm going it's a person

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 8: pulling the trigger. People like they're leading. People out here

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 8: legally who have guns aren't doing this stuff. These are

1303
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 8: crooks and criminals. The people who are legally having guns,

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 8: like you and I are protecting others and protecting our

1305
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 8: families if somebody approaches us, or like you had your

1306
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 8: situation on the highway, which a lot of people forget,

1307
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 8: where somebody tried to run you off the road and

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01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 8: kill you because you had no idea what was going

1309
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 8: on with that person. The point is that it's amazing

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 8: that this country has this position on guns and to

1311
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 8: watch something go down like that and to have the

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01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 8: police take ten minutes to get there. I've been listening

1313
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 8: to your show, brother, and the man and the men

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 8: are just shooting people on the beach with a very

1315
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 8: low response, so even the people with guns are taking

1316
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 8: forever to get to the scene. Brian Thomas, it is

1317
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 8: an amazing situation.

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: It really is. Just scratch your head because you can't

1319
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 1: explain it. I think that's where the most frustrating element

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: comes from this Christopher. You know, you want to come

1321
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: up with a solution and answer, well, you know, it's this,

1322
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: it's it's the easy answer to how this could possibly happen.

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, they're calling you a terrorists ac I

1324
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: don't think there's any questions these people wanted to kill

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01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: Jews on the beach. So where I mean, going back

1326
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: to the fundamental question, where in the hell does that

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: come from? How can people think that under any circumstances,

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01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: random people who have no connection with whatever chip you've

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: got on your shoulder deserve to die.

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Speaker 8: And you're killing kids, man?

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Speaker 3: Kids?

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01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 8: What about the hate? The hate that has to be

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01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 8: that's in your heart for you to do something like that. Man,

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 8: Now you know the other thing that I tied this

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 8: to in my mind, Brian Thomas said, I know we

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 8: got to go home tide this segment, but it's Daniel Penny.

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 8: This whole discussion we had just stay with me with

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01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 8: the gentleman in New York on the subway, if he

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01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 8: had not intervened. Look how we treated our hero. Look

1340
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 8: how they're treating their hero. We put this man on trial,

1341
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 8: we charged him, and we're going to take away his

1342
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 8: privileges for the rest of his life because he intervened

1343
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 8: on a New York subway and saved people's lives. And

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 8: since then, there have at least been two or three

1345
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 8: people set on fire in those subways in New York.

1346
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 8: And I'm talking about since Daniel Penny and his big

1347
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 8: trial that we had in New York. I'm trying to wonder,

1348
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 8: what in the world, Why are we treating this guy

1349
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 8: in Australia is a hero, Daniel Penny was a hero.

1350
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 8: But we couldn't We couldn't get it right, buddy, if

1351
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 8: it was right in front of us in this country.

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 8: I don't understand it well.

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 1: And to your point, you know, if he'd had protected people,

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: if there was a subway in Texas, I don't know,

1355
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been charged with a crime. If it

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: happened in Florida, he wouldn't have been charged with a crime. Yeah,

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01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: it's New York. You're not supposed to have a fire.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask you, Brian Thomas, listen to me, brother,

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 8: if you see something happening around me, he said, see something,

1360
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 8: say something. But if you are carrying your weapon, see

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01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 8: something and open fire saved my life, please and then

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 8: let's go to trial and figure it out. My point

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01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 8: is that we need people, good Samaritans who are willing

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01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 8: to intervene, like this man on Bondi Beach who saw

1365
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 8: something happening and said, you know what, I've got to

1366
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 8: respond right now, because if he didn't respond, more people

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 8: would be dead this morning, no question about it. He

1368
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 8: absolutely saved lives.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can count on me, Christopher. You know I've

1370
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: got your back. We'll bring Christopher back. Apparently he's got

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01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about this morning. We'll dive on

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Speaker 1: in a more right after I mentioned, oh look, seven

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01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: thirty fifty five KARROC DE talk station bry Thomas with

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 1: former Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithman

1375
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: getting out of a system with the smither Van. Christopher,

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: I think you get a lot of topics on your mind.

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: What are we rolling into now.

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01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 8: Well, I'm gonna stay with the topic you were talking

1379
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 8: about earlier, but I have a little different twist on it,

1380
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 8: and that is, you know, my support for vevak Karamaswami

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 8: for the governor. You know, I support him. I think

1382
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 8: he's going to be a great governor. I think is

1383
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 8: one of the most important races for the state of

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Speaker 8: Ohio in twenty twenty six. And I think that Republicans

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 8: and Conservatives and independents who want a steady balance of

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 8: our in our government, meaning I'm talking about the finances

1387
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 8: of our government government, people that are looking for reforms

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01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 8: in our education system, people who are looking for energy

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 8: policy that is progressive. These are just three examples that

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01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 8: this is the guy for the job period. He's the

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01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 8: most qualified person in the race, and I think he's

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 8: the guy that's going to take Ohio to the next level.

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 8: I'm not in the struggle of why our governor hasn't

1394
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 8: made the decision to endorse him at this point, but

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01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 8: I think he will. I think he I mean, I

1396
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 8: think Governor Mike Demned as a team player and I

1397
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 8: think ultimately he's going to endorse the vak Ramaswami to

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 8: be the next governor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Christopher, real quick here. He did not reject Amy

1400
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: Actin though he has yet. He said, I'm gonna endorse

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01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: the republic whoever gets the Republican nomination, which clearly is

1402
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: going to be Vi vik Ramaswami. But he's not there yet.

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01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 1: But he hasn't rejected out of hand Amy Acton as

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: a viable candidate. In fact, he said quite a few

1405
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: things which suggests he thinks she's a viable candidate. That's

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01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: really got me irked, and I don't get that at all.

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01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: Maybe because well, she was his hand selected medical director

1408
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: or something we all know.

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01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 8: Well, I think at the end of the day, Governor

1410
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 8: Mike Derryant is going to make the right decision and

1411
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 8: endorse the vek Ramaswami for governor. I think that's ultimately

1412
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 8: where we're where we're going to head it. And I,

1413
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 8: if I could speculate it, probably is because he was

1414
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 8: she was working with him during COVID And I'm not gonna,

1415
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna rehash those decisions that

1416
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 8: were made, many of them, like you, I was very

1417
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 8: very concerned about. But at the end of the day,

1418
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six. I want to wake up in

1419
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 8: November and I want to see the vak Ramaswami be

1420
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 8: the next governor for the state of Ohio. And I

1421
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 8: think that as we look across what just happened in

1422
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 8: our local elections, if we're sleep at the wheel like

1423
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 8: we were in these local elections that just happened where

1424
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 8: you saw areas like Cincinnati go so blue because Conservatives,

1425
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 8: Republicans and independence didn't show up and vote, meaning the

1426
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 8: President of the United States will not be on the ballot.

1427
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 8: So the risk here is that our the people out

1428
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 8: there who support him will be sleep politically, won't understand

1429
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 8: the importance of the election, and won't come out. Because

1430
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 8: the midterm elections, Brian Thomas, are about voter turnout leaning

1431
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 8: the number of people that get out of their bed,

1432
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 8: get off their couches, get off their sofas, whatever it

1433
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 8: is they're rocking chairs, and get out and participate in

1434
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 8: the process, that's our big concern, I think in twenty

1435
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 8: twenty six. But we also have Judge Winkler and we

1436
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 8: have a Judge Dinkin Locker who are also on the

1437
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 8: ballot here in our county. I mean I think that

1438
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 8: I think Judge Winkler should be not only endorsed by

1439
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 8: the Republican Party, which I'm sure you will be, but

1440
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 8: we've got to make sure that we don't have all

1441
01:22:54,479 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 8: Democrats running our Hamilton County judge ships, our courts. It's

1442
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 8: really scary what's going on down there. So those two races,

1443
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 8: Leah Dinkin Locker, I can't say their names enough, Judge Winkler.

1444
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 8: I think that we've got to make sure as people

1445
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 8: are going through and they're voting for governor, I'm gonna

1446
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 8: start talking about it now. We've got to vote the

1447
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 8: whole ticket, Brian Thomas, because what happens is people get

1448
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 8: so hyper focused. They'll say, man, I'm going in here,

1449
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 8: I'm voting for the vek Raamaswami. I'm gonna make sure

1450
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 8: he's going to be the governor. But then they forget

1451
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 8: about those local elections that matter in our daily lives.

1452
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 8: So we've got to learn how to vote through that

1453
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 8: whole ticket, so that if we're voting for one, we're

1454
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 8: voting for the other two and making sure that we

1455
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 8: return both of those judges to the county. And I

1456
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 8: think this is important for me to start talking about

1457
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 8: now as we're going through the holidays because guess what,

1458
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 8: Brian Thomas, families are getting together. They're cutting the turkey,

1459
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 8: and I want them talking about those three races, meaning

1460
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 8: starting to educate their families about making sure you're eighteen

1461
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 8: year old is registered to vote, because I'm going to

1462
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 8: have an eighteen year old in February. She's gonna turn eighteen.

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 8: She's gonna be able to participate in that amazing.

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01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe your little girls turning eighteen eighteen.

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01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 8: Brother, I will send you a picture of her December

1466
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 8: Christmas dance after we get off the show. Brother, this

1467
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 8: is that seat and they had their December Christmas dance. Brother,

1468
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 8: I was in tears. And by the way she wore

1469
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 8: my late wife's one of her coach to that event

1470
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 8: was it was riveting to see her as she comes

1471
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 8: into womanhood. But she's gonna be able to participate in

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 8: the political process for the first time next year. And

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01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 8: I know there are a lot of people out there

1474
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 8: who people have children who are turning eighteen. We've got

1475
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 8: to make sure all of those eighteen year olds are

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 8: registered to vote. My daughter might end up at BGSU,

1477
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 8: she might end up at Miami of Ohio. She might

1478
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 8: end up at uc Ohio State. These are all places

1479
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 8: that except Miami, Ohio. We're gonna hear from them, I

1480
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 8: think this week. But all these schools she's up Mount

1481
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 8: Saint Joseph she's been accepted to. But wherever she goes

1482
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 8: to school, right I want her registered at my home address,

1483
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 8: not that university. And I want to make sure that

1484
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 8: my daughter Camille participates in the political process. I think

1485
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 8: we've got to start having those conversations and bringing those

1486
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 8: young people under the fold and teaching them and educating

1487
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 8: them and informing them prior to them going to college,

1488
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 8: and having this indoctrination in their minds that we are

1489
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 8: concerned about that they know, Hey, the vak Aramaswami is

1490
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 8: our guy, and we want to make sure that we

1491
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 8: vote for him for governor of this great state of Ohio.

1492
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: Got to generate that enthusiasm. I have every expectation that

1493
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: being your daughter, she will most assuredly be involved in

1494
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: the political process will bring Christopher back from what ray til.

1495
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 8: I send you her photo the photo brother.

1496
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: He's eighteen years old, seven thirty six right now. But

1497
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 1: you have KSY talk station. Where does the time go

1498
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: the talk station five KROCD talk station. Always enjoy the

1499
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 1: conversations I get to have with Christopher Smithman every Monday

1500
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 1: and today, of course, no depart from the norm on that, Christopher.

1501
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: What else is on your mind, my friend?

1502
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 8: Well, I hope you looked at that photo of what

1503
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 8: womanhood looks like. But I sent that to you.

1504
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I can't get over it, man, I just can't get

1505
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: over it.

1506
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 8: It's an amazing time.

1507
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: Just a beautiful, beautiful You got to be so proud

1508
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: of her. Anyway, I am.

1509
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 8: Seaton has just done a wonderful job, and let me

1510
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 8: just give them a shout out. You know, there's a

1511
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 8: wonderful high school, great staff, great great principal. I mean,

1512
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 8: I just can't say enough about about Seaton High School

1513
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 8: and what they've done for my family and my daughter.

1514
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 8: But let me just fit close out my rant by

1515
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 8: talking about the Bengals. By the way, you and I

1516
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 8: know I don't know a lot about sports, right, but

1517
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 8: when you're paying two hundred dollars a ticket, you would

1518
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 8: think you would have ice and snow out of your seat.

1519
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 8: And you would also think while you've just negotiated a

1520
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 8: stadium deal, pushing our taxes higher in Hamilton County, which

1521
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 8: has made this family billionaires. That the least you could

1522
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 8: do for someone who's paying two hundred dollars to sit

1523
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 8: in the seat that you would be able to remove

1524
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 8: the snow and ice. And so I'm trying to figure

1525
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 8: out what our good tenants are doing, right, I mean,

1526
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 8: they're the landlords. We're coming in to sit down and

1527
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 8: watch a game. And by the way, if my understanding

1528
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 8: is right, the Bengals did not score a point. You

1529
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 8: are and so on top of it, you have this,

1530
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 8: you have this team that is struggling, but you also

1531
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 8: have owners that ops absolutely did not take the best

1532
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 8: care for those who showed up in sub zero temperatures

1533
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 8: to watch a game where their team is struggling, can't score,

1534
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 8: but you've got ice and snow in their seat.

1535
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I took a slightly different take out of this

1536
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: morning when I read that as like, oh, boohoo, you

1537
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: know you got to move a little bit of snow

1538
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: before you sit down. I appreciate your point of view, Christopher. Yeah,

1539
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: we did pay for that place. But see, you got

1540
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: to have two hundred dollars to buy a ticket, So Jesus,

1541
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: I don't.

1542
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 8: Know how a family, I don't know how a family

1543
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 8: of four, I don't know how they go down to

1544
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 8: take in. I mean, when you and I were growing up, buddy,

1545
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 8: we could take in a Bengals game. We could take

1546
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 8: in a Reds game. A middle class family could go

1547
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 8: down and take it in. Man, you've got to have

1548
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 8: some serious cash to take one of these games in.

1549
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 8: And I'm just saying, in this day and age, if

1550
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 8: you're paying two hundred dollars and that's probably just to

1551
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 8: get in, those are probably not the best seats in

1552
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 8: the house that you should clean off your sheets of

1553
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 8: snow and ice. And I don't you know, it's not

1554
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 8: a place I'm going to watch a game. But hey,

1555
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 8: that's what I'm saying. But you know, as we close out, man,

1556
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 8: elections have consequences locally. Notice how in Cincinnati after the election,

1557
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 8: all of this new news is pouring out. Okay, eight

1558
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 8: point one million dollar settlement start there, right, So you're

1559
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 8: giving eight point one million dollars to protesters who negotiated

1560
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 8: the deal. Brian Thomas, who didn't have to settle, meaning

1561
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 8: the city of Cincinnati to your listening audience, did not

1562
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 8: have to settle that case. It could have said, we're

1563
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 8: going to go to trial. We don't like what this

1564
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 8: number is. Everybody knew going into that election that that

1565
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 8: eight point one million dollar settlement was in the hopper.

1566
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 8: They just decided not to release it until after the election.

1567
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 8: Elections have conflicence.

1568
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: Like Iris Rawley's contract. Two days after that's when we've

1569
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: got the news that they renewed that thing for six

1570
01:29:53,960 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: hundred plus million dollars.

1571
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 8: Yet, I mean you're meaning Brian Thomas, you're again correct

1572
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 8: here that these are things they knew about that were

1573
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 8: in the hopper and said we're not going to release

1574
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 8: this information because they knew that if Corey Bowman had

1575
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 8: been elected, the things that we're talking about wouldn't happen.

1576
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 8: Meaning Corey Bowman would have walked in and said, no settlements,

1577
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 8: we're not settling the case. We're going to trial. He

1578
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 8: would have said, no, we're not doing this new contract

1579
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 8: with Irish Roley. Not going to happen. Elections have consequences.

1580
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 8: And we also found out about the mayor's car. Now,

1581
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 8: you know, it's just kind of like a story. We're

1582
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 8: kind of silly, blah blah blah, but it makes you

1583
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 8: laugh because you've got a guy down here with a

1584
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 8: thirty six million or thirty two million dollar deficit in

1585
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 8: the city that they're going to have to wrestle with

1586
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 8: because the COVID dollars are now gone. They can't pad

1587
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:56,759
Speaker 8: the budget anymore with those COVID dollars. That they're actually

1588
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 8: going to have to balance the budget. Look for that

1589
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 8: as we go into the next budget cycle. But here's

1590
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 8: a guy who can't pay his car payment. Meaning his

1591
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 8: notion of saying, you and I know who are experienced

1592
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 8: people with money and finances, however you want to say it,

1593
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 8: you're notified many times before your car is repolld emails,

1594
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 8: telephone calls, snail mail, pay your bill, pay your bill,

1595
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 8: to find out that our mayor's car was towed or

1596
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 8: repolld parked outside city Hall. I mean, it's just absolutely

1597
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 8: amazing to me that we're having this kind of a discussion. Oh,

1598
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 8: it is so embarrassing for all of us while we're

1599
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 8: facing the death and said, while we're giving out six

1600
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty thousand dollars contracts, while we're settling cases

1601
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 8: like eight point one million, and we know in the hopper,

1602
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 8: we've got Chief Fiji and we've got Chief Washington. Both

1603
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 8: of those cases will be settled for millions of dollars

1604
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 8: between both of them. So their bottom line here is

1605
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 8: elections have consequences.

1606
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: And you know, you brought up d G again, and

1607
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of a story that's a little moved by

1608
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the way. So I'd given all the other crazy stories

1609
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: that have come out, But have we ever been provided

1610
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: with a specific reason why she was pushed aside paid

1611
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: administrative leaved. I mean, we have something we can point

1612
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 1: to that they have pointed to to justify her removal

1613
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: from that position.

1614
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 8: We have not. They hired Frost Brown and tied to

1615
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 8: bury her politically. I'm sure they're going to come out

1616
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 8: with some type of report. But she has hired meaning

1617
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 8: police DG has hired a great law firm just like

1618
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 8: Chief Washington. They both have the same legal team, and

1619
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 8: they will win both of those cases. Meaning there's nothing

1620
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 8: in her file after thirty five years to indicate why

1621
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 8: she was fired, and so there isn't a jury anywhere

1622
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 8: in Hamilton County that would say the city made the

1623
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 8: right decision and how they treated her. It's going to

1624
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 8: cost us problem a million dollars to do it. I

1625
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,440
Speaker 8: think Cheeve Washington is probably three to five million dollars.

1626
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 8: So get ready for more judgment bonds, is my point.

1627
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 8: I mean, the city's going to continue to issue these

1628
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 8: judgment bonds because they keep making bad decisions. And to

1629
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 8: my good friend David Pepper, just changing as we go. Look,

1630
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 8: he's out there tweeting really hard. He's a Democrat, he's

1631
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 8: an acquaintance of mine, but he's tweeting really hard about

1632
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 8: the vech Ramaswami. I'm worried about some of his tweets.

1633
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 8: So one of his tweets highlighting is the coat that

1634
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 8: the beck is wearing. Now I'm trying to figure out

1635
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 8: he's saying the vek Ramaswami is wearing a two thousand

1636
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 8: dollars coat while he's doing a press conference. Now, I

1637
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 8: just want to highlight I wouldn't have known what kind

1638
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 8: of code the Vek was wearing, Meaning if I went

1639
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 8: to Macy's, I'm buying a code I don't know. I

1640
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 8: want to remind David Pepper the only reason he knows

1641
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 8: what coat the veck Ramaswami is wearing is he has

1642
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 8: one in his own closet. And so we've got to

1643
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 8: focus on like these meaning David Pepper has a lot

1644
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 8: of money, like this notion that he doesn't. He's looking

1645
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 8: at the code. He's bringing reflection on what coch. I've

1646
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 8: never seen that before in my life, Brian Thomas. I've

1647
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 8: never seen someone starting to bring comment about what an

1648
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 8: elected official is wearing. Meaning. The reason I'm highlighting this

1649
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 8: is you spoke about I'd rather have somebody who's successful,

1650
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 8: a business person who's not really tied to the system,

1651
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 8: be elected into the position. Write somebody with money, somebody

1652
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 8: who's successful. Boom bamboom. I'm saying to you that I

1653
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 8: don't care what coch this man is wearing. What I

1654
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 8: care about is how he's going to run the state

1655
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 8: of Ohio. I'm just concerned and are wondering why is David.

1656
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,440
Speaker 4: Pepper Well, I say exactly about what this man is wearing.

1657
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: You know what, because he doesn't have anything substantific go on.

1658
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: And that's a way of engaging in class warfare. That

1659
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: evil vv Gramiswamy took his own money that he earned

1660
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: from his own sweat and his own intellect and made

1661
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: millions of dollars with his company. He bought a coat.

1662
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: That's class warfare. Christopher, You'll take it however you can

1663
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: get it. When you don't have anything to run on,

1664
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: you may as well make fun of the coat so

1665
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: you can just let it rest there, which is exactly

1666
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: what we're facing right now, a desperate, desperate class struggle.

1667
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: And I'm worried about it. Look who's elected to the

1668
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: mayor of New York City? My friend a communist.

1669
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm worried about it very I'm worried about it

1670
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 8: as much as you are. But I hope that your

1671
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 8: listening audience will go to their social media platforms and

1672
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 8: challenge people like David Pepper when they post this kind

1673
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 8: of nonsense up, because what he's doing is he's trying

1674
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 8: to go to the lowest common denominator. That's what you're

1675
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 8: speaking to.

1676
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: It's like name calling, calling people's name. You have no

1677
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: substance of argument to make.

1678
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 8: Christopher smith Man, and I appreciate you so much for

1679
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 8: giving me so much time. People can follow me on

1680
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 8: my ex account at vote Smitherman in between my smither

1681
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 8: events with Brian Thomas. Thank you so much much.

1682
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Look forward to next time. Day. Your daughter is abs stunning.

1683
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for you at a certain level there

1684
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: station at seven fifty four here fifty five ker CD

1685
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: talk station. Yeah, seventy five to three dollars average ticket

1686
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: price for since San Bengals Camp. Just look that up

1687
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: and you'll have to clean your own snow seat off. Sorry,

1688
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: I just can't find any uh any love loss for

1689
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: the folks they had to clean their own seats off. Anyway,

1690
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: Coming up out the top of the our news, are

1691
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: gonna learn from Brian James about the fed Ray cut

1692
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: and what that might mean for us, hopefully lower interest

1693
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: rates for home ownership. We'll see. I still have to

1694
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: point out that doesn't solve the supply problem. Is there

1695
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,879
Speaker 1: an artificial intelligence bubble? I keep reading about it, concerns

1696
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: over it might pop and all that investment may go

1697
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Speaker 1: by the wayside. We'll see what he has to say

1698
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 1: about that. And plus, uh, you're familiar with the required

1699
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: minimum distribution deadline, Well it's coming and Brian James is

1700
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna tell us what exactly that means that applies to

1701
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 1: folks with four to oh one case. After Brian James departs,

1702
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from doctor Radeka Ramanaden and she is

1703
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: going to tell us all about the new VA medical Center,

1704
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: the eye services they're going to be offering at the

1705
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I Center for my veteran friends out there. That'll be

1706
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: at the tail end of the next hour. I hope

1707
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: you can stick around for all that be right back

1708
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: after the top of the hour.

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Speaker 5: News today, it's tough headline station A six on a Monday.

1710
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 5: I hope you know what that means. It's that time

1711
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,440
Speaker 5: talking money matters. It's Money Monday with all Worth Financials.

1712
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Brian James. Appreciate all Worth loarding out every Monday to

1713
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: talk about financial matters. I hope you had a wonderful weekend.

1714
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: You can ready for the holidays, Brian, we are, yeah,

1715
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: just we've got all local.

1716
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 10: We're a good West side Cincinnati family. So nobody ever

1717
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 10: left town very far, so we just got a lot

1718
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 10: of places they hit over the next few weeks.

1719
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you're looking forward to it. I know

1720
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: I am. It's nice to excel a little bit and

1721
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 1: try to enjoy something with so much gloom and doom

1722
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,839
Speaker 1: in the news these days. Just I'm glad the holidays

1723
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: are fast approaching for that reason alone. If there are

1724
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: any other I got to ask you. This Federal Reserve

1725
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: cut interest rates by a quarter point and there was

1726
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: apparently dissension among the ranks. We had Chicago's FED president

1727
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: and the Kansas City Fed saying no need a whole

1728
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:33,759
Speaker 1: rate steady. The FED governor Stephen Moran said they fifty

1729
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: percent basis point cut, so point five, and it came

1730
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 1: in at point twenty five. What's the argument about, Brian James,

1731
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: what seems to be the problem here reaching a consensus?

1732
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 10: Well, you know that people have different opinions is really

1733
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 10: all this. It really turns out we don't just move

1734
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 10: in lockstep go figure. So, yeah, there were three descents

1735
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 10: this time around. There were two that wanted to keep

1736
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 10: rates exactly where they were, with concerns about elevated inflation,

1737
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 10: which is really, you know, inflation has just never gone away.

1738
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 10: I don't know that it's necessarily new inflation, it just

1739
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 10: hasn't gotten back.

1740
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 4: To where we wanted.

1741
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 10: And then another one wanted a steeper cut about a

1742
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,799
Speaker 10: half percent. That one was concerned about a slowing labor

1743
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 10: market in other words, want this person wanted to basically

1744
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 10: kind of goose the system to sit, to entice businesses

1745
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 10: to invest more and then re energize the hiring market.

1746
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 10: So there's more new projections out there, some of them

1747
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 10: painting a more optimistic.

1748
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 4: Bigger picture.

1749
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 10: And so they did increase their GDP forecast for twenty

1750
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 10: six to two point three percent from one point eight,

1751
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 10: So obviously that's good. They're seeing better times ahead and

1752
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 10: reducing the twenty six inflation projections to two point four

1753
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 10: percent from two point six so as we're sitting here

1754
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 10: right now. Oh and also they kept unemployment the unemployment

1755
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 10: projections of four point four for next year. So as

1756
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 10: we're sitting here right now, it seems to be we

1757
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 10: are leaning toward the opinion of the general opinion of

1758
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 10: the Fed Governor's is positive. We're seeing better things coming

1759
01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 10: in with regard to both inflation and economic growth. Like you said,

1760
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 10: we do still have some descent among the ranks.

1761
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, and I certainly get to this sounds kind of

1762
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: joke a little bit there, But let me ask you this.

1763
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned the economic forecast, and I was glad you did,

1764
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: because they project where they think the economy is going,

1765
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: inflation and unemployment and all that is. Are there any

1766
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 1: statistics about how accurate they are with these forecasts, because

1767
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,879
Speaker 1: you know, someone wrote down accurate. Is this science or alchemy.

1768
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: That will be me. Really, what's behind this? And has

1769
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: anybody checked their overall accuracy rate over the years.

1770
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 10: Well, I think they've kind of They run hot and cold,

1771
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 10: and we get excited about them when they're super accurate,

1772
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 10: we get excited about them when they're not accurate at all,

1773
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 10: when they're in the when they're kind of in the middle,

1774
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 10: we don't pay attention a whole lot. So, but yeah,

1775
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 10: there's These are generally considered to be directionally useful but

1776
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 10: numerically wrong. So, for example, in twenty one and twenty two,

1777
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,799
Speaker 10: the FED repeatedly projected inflation was going to fall quickly,

1778
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 10: only to see it spike to forty year highs. Remember

1779
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 10: transitory inflation, Well that wasn't exactly transitory, and over the

1780
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 10: last fifteen fifteen years repeatedly predicted slower GDP growth than

1781
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 10: what has actually occurred. Twenty thirteen to twenty nineteen, growth

1782
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 10: was consistently ahead of FED estimates. So now the FED

1783
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 10: hasn't been any more accurate really than many other resources

1784
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 10: in terms of projecting all this, And part of me

1785
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 10: wants to believe that this might be because it's gonna

1786
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 10: hurt a lot more if we tell everybody everything is wonderful,

1787
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 10: because people will tend to take that and multiply it

1788
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 10: by ten, And so it is reasonable to me that

1789
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 10: they might be hesitant to really kind of light that

1790
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 10: light things on fire too quickly, and therefore they kind

1791
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 10: of lean toward urging caution a little more often.

1792
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, with hindsight, it should. Do you think they're lamenting

1793
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: the fact they didn't put the brakes on a little

1794
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: bit sooner considering the trillions of dollars that were infused

1795
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: into the economy through all these massive government spending programs

1796
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: during the COVID time.

1797
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 4: Oh for sure.

1798
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 10: I mean, because we had unbridled spending and we didn't

1799
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 10: have a whole lot of oversight over the whole thing.

1800
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 10: But yeah, I think at the time there was just

1801
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 10: out and out panic among you know, the decision makers

1802
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 10: from a standpoint of we don't know what this is,

1803
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 10: we don't know how long this is going to last.

1804
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 4: We just know we have to do something big and

1805
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 4: something quick.

1806
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 10: And I think and then a lot of cases that

1807
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 10: got us back to things we've seen in the past

1808
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 10: where we've done a lot of spending like that with

1809
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 10: really out any any handcuffs on it, and that gets

1810
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 10: us the inflation that we've gotten. We saw that in

1811
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 10: the late seventies early eighties were when we basically cut

1812
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 10: interest rates too low during the nixt administration, and that

1813
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 10: begat a bunch of inflation over the next several several years,

1814
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 10: leading to really really high interest rates in the late eighties,

1815
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 10: well the early eighties.

1816
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: It is one of the big question marks it seems

1817
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: to be swirling about all this. And one of the

1818
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: reasons I think they lowered the interest rate by our

1819
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: quarter point is because of the concern over the labor

1820
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: market seems to be a rather moving target these days.

1821
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: And I've read a number of articles where there's like

1822
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 1: question marks over waitment, what is the true state of

1823
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: the labor market. It seems that there's a lot of

1824
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: people that are supposed to be in the know that

1825
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: aren't quite in the know on that. But all the

1826
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: ras seem to point to a deteriorating labor market. If

1827
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: for nor only reason, We're going to talk about artificial

1828
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: intelligence in the next segment. This may be a bubble coming,

1829
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: but AI is in fact replacing a lot of jobs,

1830
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: and does it seems like that that trajectory is not

1831
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere anytime soon.

1832
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, and we do have some jobs data coming out here,

1833
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 10: and we have to look with a little bit of

1834
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 10: a cross eye at the at the data we're getting

1835
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 10: because who knows what we're seeing anymore, because we're kind

1836
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 10: of swapping this in for that and that kind of thing.

1837
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 10: But in any case where we are right now, the

1838
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 10: November payroll payroll comes out this week, but we still

1839
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 10: got some good information this week anyway. So August was

1840
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 10: the last time the JOLTS survey was updated, and that

1841
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 10: showed opening job openings near multi year lows. And after

1842
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 10: the government reopened, there was a jump in September to

1843
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 10: seven point six million from seven point two and October

1844
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 10: data is inching higher to seven point six So most

1845
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 10: of these increases are coming from lower skill service jobs,

1846
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 10: and those are still dealing with seasonal quirks. So we

1847
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 10: obviously we're in the holiday so you're gonna see a

1848
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 10: little bit of fuzziness there. But all this data tells

1849
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 10: us that workers are feeling a little bit less confident

1850
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 10: about leaving that current job to find a new one

1851
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 10: without already having secured something. You know, when these indexes

1852
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 10: look a little bit different. That's when people feel like, Okay,

1853
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 10: the job market is healthy, so I'm going to go

1854
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 10: ahead and leave this job that's making me miserable and

1855
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 10: I'll find something else later. Well, we're not seeing this

1856
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 10: is the quis rate I'm referring to. So people are

1857
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 10: hanging on to older jobs without you know, having found

1858
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:26,680
Speaker 10: a new one yet.

1859
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 4: So a little bit of insecurity there.

1860
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: So I hear what you're saying, no reason to doubt that.

1861
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: But I keep again reading a bunch of articles about

1862
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: how concerned people are that are looking to hire people

1863
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: they can't find qualify people for the job, or the

1864
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: people that they find are not well, not very good workers.

1865
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 1: So there seems to be a demand out there for workers.

1866
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: But I guess not in all sectors you mentioned the

1867
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: lower level sectors, or are there other areas that have

1868
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: been impacted one way or the other.

1869
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 10: Well, I think there's just a heel. Like you said,

1870
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 10: there's a huge disconnect. It would be wonderful to get

1871
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 10: all these people in the same room. The people who

1872
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 10: are saying there aren't enough jobs available, people are saying

1873
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:01,839
Speaker 10: there aren't enough workers available.

1874
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:02,759
Speaker 4: I would like to get.

1875
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 10: Them into one big, giant hotel conference room and maybe

1876
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 10: just kind of have a big job fare and see

1877
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 10: how that goes. But I have a feeling this is

1878
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 10: more of a discrepancy of employers not wanting to give

1879
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 10: the perks that people still feel should be involved in

1880
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,560
Speaker 10: a job, such as a flexible work schedule, hybrid.

1881
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 4: And remote work, those kinds of things. And then of

1882
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 4: course there's all there.

1883
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 10: We'll never see the eye to eye on what the

1884
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 10: compensation should be in general. So to me, all of

1885
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 10: that speaks more to a lack of willingness to compromise

1886
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 10: on both sides than it does complete blindness to the

1887
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:35,719
Speaker 10: other side.

1888
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 1: All right, and the all important question, the quarter point drop,

1889
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: is that going to translate into lower mortgage rates?

1890
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 10: Well it should, but at the same time, but there's

1891
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 10: a lot of people out there, Brian who bought houses

1892
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 10: and wound up with an eight eight and a half

1893
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 10: percent mortgage something like that, And so we're gonna see

1894
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 10: those folks are obviously seeing an opportunity to refinance. Sure,

1895
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 10: but that also was putting, that was pushing you know,

1896
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 10: those higher richest rates for keeping people from moving at all,

1897
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 10: deciding you know, we'll push it out another couple three years. Well,

1898
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 10: now that the interest rates are falling a bit, I

1899
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 10: think we might see the demand for housing pop back

1900
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 10: up just a little bit because people who would would

1901
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 10: have moved otherwise over the last couple three years held

1902
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 10: off and now things are more a little more favorable

1903
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 10: for them to do so.

1904
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: And under those circumstances, don't we still have an inventory

1905
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: problem because I got the impression that we're kind of

1906
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: short on housing supply.

1907
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, and and and I think there's there's a lot

1908
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 10: to be said too. We're also moving into a slower.

1909
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 4: Time of year where people just don't want to move.

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Speaker 10: So if I have the cold out, it's exactly I

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Speaker 10: don't want to go get the paper, let alone move everything.

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 10: So, yeah, we're entering in that time of year. And yeah,

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Speaker 10: so there are fewer houses hitting the market.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't see cracks in the foundation or anything like that.

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Speaker 10: Just kind of a downswing in the overall activity.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, We'll continue with Brian James speaking

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Speaker 1: of artificial intelligence. Wall Street seeing an AI bubble coming? Hmm?

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Speaker 1: What's that mean for us generally speaking? We'll learn about

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Speaker 1: that with Brian James. Stick around right back fast and

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Speaker 1: pro roofing a reputable company. The pre the talk station.

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Speaker 1: It's eight nineteen at fifty five KRC, the talk Station,

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Brian James. All were financials Brian James going

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Speaker 1: through the Money Monday segment, and we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about own. No, we're going to see another tech bubble

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Speaker 1: in the form of an AI bubble, Brian James. Billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars being thrown a fit edarittificial intelligence and a

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Speaker 1: real game changer in terms of our our energy needs.

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Speaker 1: And maybe we'll have a reform in terms of where

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Speaker 1: we get our energy from, notably small nuclear reactors. Please

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Speaker 1: Dear God, let us have those. But is this a

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Speaker 1: bubble getting ready to pop? The whole world's competing on

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Speaker 1: this stage.

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Speaker 10: Well yeah, there' this is AI has been a catalyst,

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Speaker 10: just like lots of other technological headlines over the last

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Speaker 10: thirty years. I remember remember when the internet was very first

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Speaker 10: a brand new thing in the late nineties and early

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Speaker 10: two thousands. Well, obviously that was not a flash in

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Speaker 10: the pan, and it'd be got more bubbles. But what

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Speaker 10: we're concerned about here right now. So you're seeing a

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Speaker 10: lot of sellofs on Nvidia, some of the big names.

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Speaker 10: An Oracle stock has plunged after they were they hit

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Speaker 10: about three hundred and twenty bucks a share, Now they're

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Speaker 10: down to about one hundred and eighty eight a big

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Speaker 10: step back for Oracle that was from October to now,

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Speaker 10: and just over a lot of AI spending, a weakening

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Speaker 10: sentiment for firms tied to these platforms like open ai,

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Speaker 10: and that's open Ai is the one behind chat GPT.

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Speaker 4: Of course, the Microsoft is doing.

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Speaker 10: A lot of money them as well, And so I

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Speaker 10: think investors are looking at the kind of debating, Okay,

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Speaker 10: for twenty twenty six, how do I want to be positioned?

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Speaker 4: Do I want to stay as exposed?

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Speaker 10: Given the run up that all these stocks have had,

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Speaker 10: and given the fact that we really haven't had much

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Speaker 10: of a shakeout. Remember back two thousand and one, two

1958
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Speaker 10: thousand and two, that was the shakeout of the original

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Speaker 10: Internet bubble, and that's when the winners and losers were

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Speaker 10: first chosen. That has not happened yet in the AI space,

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Speaker 10: and I think investors might be starting to look to

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Speaker 10: that saying, Okay, it's really time for time for things

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Speaker 10: to kind of move to a little bit of a

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Speaker 10: ranked order in terms of who's going to survive and

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Speaker 10: who's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a crypto in away, isn't it. There's like

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Speaker 1: eight gajillion different cryptos out there, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess one of them, maybe or more, are going to

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Speaker 1: emerge as the top contenders and the other one's going

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Speaker 1: to fall by the wayside. Am I close on that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think I think the difference there Crypto

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Speaker 10: is more speculatively based. I mean it's it's these companies

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Speaker 10: that are pursuing AI have different patented technologies, different approaches

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Speaker 10: to things, versus crypto, which is ninety percent what does

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Speaker 10: the herd want to buy?

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Speaker 1: To me? I got you so?

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Speaker 10: But yeah, so I think it's gonna be a little

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Speaker 10: different than that. This will be more traditional. Let's look

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Speaker 10: at the business plans and the opportunity strengths and weaknesses

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Speaker 10: and all that of each individual company again versus just

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Speaker 10: speculative types of assets.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I guess in terms of exposure, I

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Speaker 1: presumed since I have, you know, these managed funds and

1985
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Speaker 1: they're filled with all kinds of different stocks, that anybody

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Speaker 1: who's got that kind of financial portfolio is exposed on

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Speaker 1: some level. I presume that some of my investments are

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Speaker 1: in these AI companies. Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's hard, It's impossible to avoid there's no way.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, even if you don't have anything that strictly is

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Speaker 10: itself in a it's a virtual guarantee that a lot

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Speaker 10: of the companies you've invested in via those mutual funds

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Speaker 10: and exchange traded funds are somehow themselves benefiting from AI.

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Speaker 10: There are a lot of savings and a lot of

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Speaker 10: efficiencies to be gained by allowing to allowing computers to

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Speaker 10: do more thinking pros and cons for sure, but we

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Speaker 10: can't pretend that these are these aren't powerful tools. So

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Speaker 10: AI is going to filter its way into every part

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Speaker 10: of every industry just simply because of those efficiencies that

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Speaker 10: can be gained.

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Speaker 4: If you own the S and P.

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Speaker 10: Five hundred, then a huge chunk of that the largest

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Speaker 10: holdings in there. And I feel like we've beaten this

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Speaker 10: to death on the radio waves here this last several months.

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Speaker 10: But a very very large chunk of the S and

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Speaker 10: P five hundred is focused in the technology sector and

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Speaker 10: just a handful of country companies. Because of the way

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Speaker 10: it's built, the S and P five hundred is capitalization

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Speaker 10: weighted that means the bigger the company, the more it

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Speaker 10: makes up of the index. So, as we all know,

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Speaker 10: technology is ruling the day at the moment, So those

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Speaker 10: tech companies are absolutely huge. If you have the S

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Speaker 10: and P five hundred index fund, that's a good fund.

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Speaker 10: But don't assume that you're completely diversified. It's largely going

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Speaker 10: to be driven by what technology does, which that's just

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Speaker 10: driving the market these past couple decades.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is now. I'm guessing this is I

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Speaker 1: hate using the phrase piece of God, but it often

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Speaker 1: is like the passes all human understanding, and for Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 1: it passes my understanding. Now, there are different types of

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence that the mechanism that the how it works,

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Speaker 1: components behind the scenes of computer number crunching, whatever it's doing,

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Speaker 1: and somebody is going to emerge as the predominant force

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Speaker 1: at some point, right other one is going to be

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Speaker 1: better than the other. So there's the tech component of it.

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Speaker 1: But then there's also the hardware part. Isn't Navidia don't

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Speaker 1: they manufacture the chips?

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Speaker 4: Correct? Yeah, there's a lot of components to this.

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Speaker 10: There are you know, and I think back always us example,

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Speaker 10: I think back to the gold Rush. The gold rush

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Speaker 10: was not at all about people digging gold out of

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Speaker 10: the ground. In terms of who made the money, it

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Speaker 10: was the companies that realized that there was a movement

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Speaker 10: happening among society. A lot of people were moving out

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Speaker 10: west to go dig in the dirt. So the company

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Speaker 10: that made a lot of money were Levi's because they've

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Speaker 10: they invented clothing that was durable and would hold up

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Speaker 10: for that kind of thing. They were the Studebaker company

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Speaker 10: that ultimately became the automotive company that we know of.

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Speaker 4: They sold shovels. Go figure, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 10: Wells Fargo, that's where the stage coach came from. For

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Speaker 10: for all these businesses doing business out there on the frontier,

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Speaker 10: out on the fringes, somehow that money had to get

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Speaker 10: back to the to the financial centers. That's where the

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Speaker 10: stage coach came from. So it's the same thing is

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Speaker 10: happening here, and Vidia makes the chips that will support

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Speaker 10: the demand that's out there. In Vidia is not out

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Speaker 10: there putting AI into companies and consulting with them on

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Speaker 10: how to use it. They're just creating the hardware because

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Speaker 10: they know the demand is going.

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Speaker 4: To be there for it.

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Speaker 1: Are are they unique? Because that's all the only company

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Speaker 1: I hear about in terms of chips, and I know

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Speaker 1: there's got to be more of them out there, But

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Speaker 1: does Navidia have any competitors along there at their level?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So in Vidia, it is not a new company.

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Speaker 10: It's a new name to people who don't who haven't

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Speaker 10: necessarily paid much attention to the technology industry. But in

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Speaker 10: Vidia has been a graphics company for decades, right, right,

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Speaker 10: So this is not They're not a you know, new

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Speaker 10: on the scene. But they have the right technology and

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Speaker 10: the right patents to make this, to make the chips

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Speaker 10: that are that that happen to be appropriate for graphical

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Speaker 10: processing units. They also happen to be the best brains

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Speaker 10: for artificial intelligence. So some of it is knowledge and

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Speaker 10: some of it is right place, right time. But they

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Speaker 10: quickly got there, and they had the ability to scale

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Speaker 10: it up in order to basically provide enough supply for

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Speaker 10: all the demand that's out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, And of course we have that you know,

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Speaker 1: critical question of whether they're going to be allowed to

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Speaker 1: sell chips that China. China's benefiting from artificial intelligence too.

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Speaker 1: The question is do we need to fund or help

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Speaker 1: our our foes if we may, in a geopolitical sense

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Speaker 1: refer to them along with their technology. So there's all

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Speaker 1: that that goes along with it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true, and there is competition out there, right

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Speaker 10: This doesn't mean that a MD and Intel have just

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Speaker 10: kind of gone away and vanished. They are still out there,

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Speaker 10: but Nvidia is the one again just has the best

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Speaker 10: technology to produce these things at scale. And there is

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Speaker 10: you know, there wasn't remember there wasn't that long ago

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Speaker 10: that China came out with a competitor that turned out

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Speaker 10: to be a little bit, a little bit fake, a

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Speaker 10: little bit plastic. But there are certainly other organizations other

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Speaker 10: countries out there looking for more you know, looking for

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Speaker 10: more efficiencies there that will compete with in Nvidia, and

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Speaker 10: Vidia just has that they have much more of the

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Speaker 10: vertical of producing all these types of things.

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Speaker 4: So that's why they're the leader right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue with Brian James. What is the

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Speaker 1: required minimum distribution, when is the deadline and what you

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Speaker 1: need to know about that. That's coming up next more

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Speaker 1: with Brian James and Money Monday. After these brief words,

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 4: This is a station.

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Speaker 1: Hey, twenty nine to fifty five fair CED talk station,

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, Money Money with Brian James. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about required minimum distributions. Question. This is for folks with

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Speaker 1: retirement accounts like four to one k's, and as I

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Speaker 1: understand it, at seventy three you have to start taking

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Speaker 1: this required minimum distribution. In other words, you might not

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Speaker 1: need the money for you your day to day living

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Speaker 1: expenses or whatever. You might be well off independent of

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Speaker 1: your retirement account, but you have to start taking a distribution.

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Speaker 1: What is the reason or policy behind the mandate that

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Speaker 1: at age seventy three you have to start doing this

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the dates and all that, Brian James,

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Speaker 1: jill Or.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, this refers to not only four to one k's,

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Speaker 10: as you mentioned, but.

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Speaker 4: Also iras four h three b's really.

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Speaker 10: Any kind of tax sheltered account that would have originated

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Speaker 10: from your employment by some other company out there. And

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Speaker 10: the thought is the reason for this is the IRS

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Speaker 10: is basically saying, Okay, the gravy train has come to

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Speaker 10: a halt. You've never paid taxes on these pre tax dollars.

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Speaker 10: This only affects pre tax accounts. We're not talking about roth,

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Speaker 10: we're not talking about after tax. So what they're basically

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Speaker 10: saying is that you've contributed this to maybe thirty forty years,

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Speaker 10: you deducted it on the way in it has grown

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Speaker 10: completely tax free to something. When you turn age seventy three,

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Speaker 10: it's also seventy five, depending on how old you are

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Speaker 10: right now. If you haven't reached that age as of yet,

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Speaker 10: as of by twenty thirty, then it'll be seventy five.

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Speaker 4: But for most people now seventy.

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Speaker 10: Three, then the IRA says you do have to start

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01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 10: taking taxable distributions. Doesn't matter what you do with the money.

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Speaker 10: What it really means is that you just have to

2131
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 10: start paying taxes on little bits of it. There's a

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Speaker 10: calculation you have to go through, and there's a table

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Speaker 10: in the IRS records that you'll use to do the calculation,

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Speaker 10: or just have your IRA custodian or four to one

2135
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 10: K custodian do it for you. But essentially a good

2136
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Speaker 10: ballpark is about four to five percent of the of

2137
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 10: the accounts. So maybe if you've got one hundred thousand

2138
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 10: one of these accounts, you might have to take out

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Speaker 10: something like four to five thousand.

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01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 4: That's not the.

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Speaker 10: Taxes, that is the distribution. That is what will be taxed.

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Speaker 10: So if you're in a twenty percent bracket, you might

2143
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 10: know eight hundred thousand bucks on that. So but the

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Speaker 10: whole point to answer your question is basically that this

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01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 10: can't be a permanently tax sheltered pile of money. Does

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01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 10: have to get taxed at some point, and that's where

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01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 10: that's where they decided to start it decades ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, there is a thing called an inherited IRA,

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: for example, and is that a taxable event when it's

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01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: passed along to airs or is this are they subject

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01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: to a separate requirementium distribution.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, as with anything, there are lots of moving parts

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01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 10: of this. So what you're referring to is somebody that

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01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 10: some benefactor of mine passed away, they themselves had one

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01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 10: of these four h one kira tax deferred accounts. And

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01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 10: so generally speaking, here's what's commonly known nowadays, as of

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01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,280
Speaker 10: the Secure Act of twenty twenty. If I inherit an

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Speaker 10: IRA from someone who passed after twenty twenty, then I

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Speaker 10: have ten years to drain that account. I can drain

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01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 10: it all day one. Nothing stops me, I can drain

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01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 10: it all on day three thy six hundred and fifty

2162
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 10: at the end of the ten years. But the point

2163
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 10: of that is that I now will have to pay

2164
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,640
Speaker 10: income taxes on every nickel of it all at once.

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01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 10: So usually the best way to do that is to

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01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 10: find a way combine it with your other sources of

2167
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 10: income to figure out what brackets you're going to hit,

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01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 10: and then figure out the right years to take it,

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01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 10: because most people within a decade will have some high

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01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 10: tax years and some low tax years.

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Speaker 4: Now there's moving parts to that too, though, Brian.

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01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 10: If the person who passed away this is a new

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01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 10: rule as of this year, if the person who passed

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Speaker 10: away was them of required minimum distribution age, which which

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Speaker 10: could have been any that might have been seventy and

2176
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 10: a half several years ago, then you will even though

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Speaker 10: there's still the ten year rule, you do still have

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01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 10: to take a minimal amount out. So make sure if

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01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 10: you're in that situation that you're on top of that.

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01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, the downside risk if you fail to do

2181
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: the require minimum distribution by the all important deadline, what

2182
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of penalty you are going to face with the

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01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: on this one.

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01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 10: A fat one although not as fat as in the past.

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01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 10: If you fail to take this full RMD by December

2186
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 10: thirty first, the penalty is generally twenty five percent of

2187
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 10: the amount that wasn't withdrawn. That's a huge chunk. Used

2188
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 10: to be fifty percent and there was no forgiveness for it.

2189
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 10: But now if you correct it within two years with

2190
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 10: an IRS form, the penalty can be reduced to ten percent.

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01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 10: Penalties are penalties, though, let's just avoid them. Just make

2192
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 10: sure you know understand what your obligations are and try

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01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 10: to get it done by December thirty first. You do

2194
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 10: have a get out of jail free card in your

2195
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 10: very first year. You have until tax time the following year.

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 10: Because a lot of people don't find out, they don't

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01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 10: understand until they've done their taxes that they should have

2198
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 10: taken a distribution.

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 4: But that's only for the first year, and I.

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01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 10: Would not recommend taking advantage of that because that is

2201
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 10: still going to cause you to have to take two distributions.

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01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 10: The one to make up for missing the first year,

2203
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 10: which in that case is pounty free, but you also

2204
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 10: have to take the one for the second year, so

2205
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:23,839
Speaker 10: that could push you into a higher bracket.

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01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: Fair Enough, I guess for the folks that don't need

2207
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 1: to tap into the retirement accounts, I guess they're in

2208
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 1: decent enough financial situation. I guess you know, it might

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01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: be a good idea to pass it along to your children.

2210
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, let that money work for them while they're alive,

2211
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 1: and while you're still alive, and you can see the

2212
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,839
Speaker 1: fruits of of your labor in your to their benefit.

2213
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 10: Oh, for sure, there's lots of things that you can

2214
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 10: be thinking about there. The irs, like I said, doesn't

2215
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 10: care what you do with these dollars. A lot of

2216
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 10: people Brian will simply say, Okay, well I got to

2217
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 10: pull that money out. It simply can't be sheltered anymore,

2218
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 10: that small proportion of it, and so therefore I'm going

2219
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 10: to take it out and I'm going to immediately stick

2220
01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 10: it over in my account.

2221
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 4: Well, no, you can't do that. You can't put it

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02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 4: into a wrong Oh well, okay, this gets a little complicated.

2223
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 10: You can do roth conversions, but they have to happen

2224
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 10: after your rm D comes out. Therefore, if my RMD

2225
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 10: comes out, and my RMD my required minimum is five thousand,

2226
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 10: and I want to convert ten thousand, well then I

2227
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 10: take five out, it cannot go anywhere else, pay taxes

2228
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 10: on that. And then after that has happened, I can

2229
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 10: convert my ten thousand, hundred thousand or whatever. But remember

2230
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 10: your RMD is already going to push up your income bracket,

2231
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 10: so therefore conversions are going to make that even worse.

2232
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 10: If you're wanting to do ROTH conversions, the best time

2233
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 10: to do it is before you have these require minimum

2234
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 10: distributions kicking in.

2235
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: Do you as a financial planner? Is it person contingent

2236
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: about whether or not you do a conversion? Because if

2237
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I converted my four to one K, I'd have to

2238
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 1: pay at my tax bracket the taxes that are due.

2239
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: I understand that, but is it a good thing to

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02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 1: do that for somebody and the terrible thing for somebody

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Speaker 1: else to do? I mean, it is.

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02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 10: Very much not a black and white everybody should go

2243
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 10: figure this. Yeah, you are very much making a sacrifice

2244
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 10: right now. I have a lot of people'll come in

2245
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 10: and say, here's my four to one K. I got

2246
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 10: a half million dollars. I want to convert that into

2247
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 10: a rock. As if I sign a form and it

2248
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 10: suddenly poof, tax free. Doesn't work that way. You need

2249
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 10: to take in that case, a half million dollars worth

2250
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 10: of taxable income, which is going to be a fat

2251
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,480
Speaker 10: voluntary check written to the irs. Yeah, in exchange for

2252
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 10: the rest of your life of tax free growth. I

2253
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 10: can show you mathematically how that's a good idea, but

2254
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 10: I'm not the one who has to write the fat

2255
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:23,360
Speaker 10: check to the irs. It's very much a philosophical thing.

2256
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 10: My role is to make sure people understand the pros

2257
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:27,960
Speaker 10: and cons of it. It will be a very valuable strategy, though.

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02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 1: I am one that am always worried about when I

2259
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: start taking out my four oh one K distributions, that

2260
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 1: they're going to come up with some just outrageous tax

2261
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: scheme because we run this country into the toilet with

2262
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,440
Speaker 1: our debt, and they're going to say, well, there's trillions

2263
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: of dollars socked away in four to one k's, let's

2264
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: tax them at a much higher rate because we got

2265
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 1: a crisis on our hands.

2266
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,160
Speaker 4: Right exactly, and that's that could happen.

2267
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 10: I don't worry too much about double taxation in these

2268
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 10: accounts because the people who will have made that choice

2269
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 10: will have to run for reelection having been, you know,

2270
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:00,040
Speaker 10: having just double taxed everybody and broken a promise that

2271
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:01,480
Speaker 10: had been in place for decades.

2272
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:03,360
Speaker 1: By that point. Fair enough on that. I'll try to

2273
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: hang my hat and get some comfort from those comments.

2274
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: Brian James, appreciate what you do. Thanks to all Worth

2275
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: again for learning out. We'll do this again next week.

2276
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:12,040
Speaker 1: Have a wonderful week, my friend, you too, Stay warm,

2277
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: you too, coming up, Doctor Ridika rama not in from

2278
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: the VDD talk station. You know how I love to

2279
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,840
Speaker 1: help the veterans out and I sure appreciate everything that

2280
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 1: the since any VA does for our veterans out of

2281
02:02:24,440 --> 02:02:26,640
Speaker 1: the listening audience who have signed up for their benefits,

2282
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: and I can't encourage you enough to sign up for

2283
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 1: those benefits. They're outstanding, including eye service. That's right. We

2284
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 1: have the VA I Center and I understand they're moving

2285
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:38,560
Speaker 1: to join the program this morning to talk about that.

2286
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 1: Doctor Ridika Ramanad and doctor ramanan And, welcome to the

2287
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 1: fifty five Careceon morning show. And let me start by

2288
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: thanking you for what you do for our veterans.

2289
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 11: Good morning, Thanks so much for having me here. I'm

2290
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 11: excited to chat with you all, and.

2291
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 1: I understand the the I Center has moved to a

2292
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 1: new location or is moving to a new location. You

2293
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 1: can confirm whether it has or is in the process

2294
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: of it a much bigger location. For what I understand,

2295
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: did you outgrow your needs at the former location.

2296
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 11: Yes, we've been in this current location for over ten

2297
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 11: years and we just keep growing and growing, and we

2298
02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 11: were reaching a point where we couldn't do what we

2299
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 11: needed to do and continue to grow. So we are expanding.

2300
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 11: We haven't moved quite yet. We're actually moving and transitioning

2301
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 11: this weekend next Our first day of operations in our

2302
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 11: new building is going to be on December twenty third.

2303
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 11: The new buildings address is twenty ninety Florence Avenue. It's

2304
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 11: going to be on the third floor. We are doubling

2305
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 11: in size, so it's going to be over twenty six

2306
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 11: thousand square feet of wo eye care. I know, it's amazing,

2307
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 11: so we're excited. Well it's coming soon.

2308
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 1: Well that expansion and the space needs suggest and I'm

2309
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 1: thankful at least what I think it suggests that the

2310
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 1: veterans are indeed taking care of their eyehealth. I mean

2311
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 1: I regularly see an eye doctor. I had glaucoma. I

2312
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 1: had to have the surgery. Forward, it's a genetic thing

2313
02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: in our family and that can make you go blind.

2314
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: But I always consider like eye care akin to dental care.

2315
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people out don't like going to the

2316
02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:12,920
Speaker 1: dentist and don't do it. If they know they can

2317
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 1: see fine, everything seems to be fine, they don't make

2318
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: an eye doctor appointment. But that pesky thing called glaucoma

2319
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: or other things could be percolating in the background, which

2320
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 1: is a serious problem. So our veterans actively and regularly

2321
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: getting eye care.

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02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,800
Speaker 11: Yes, I mean they should. Everybody should be getting an

2323
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 11: eye exam every year. You're right, You're exactly right. There's

2324
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 11: a lot of diseases in the eyes that stay silent

2325
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 11: and dormant for a very long time before it's noticeable

2326
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 11: by by the actual person. And so if you get

2327
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,839
Speaker 11: these screening exams regularly, we're able to catch them early

2328
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 11: before they've caused irreversible damage. Additionally, there's a lot of

2329
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 11: whole body diseases that show up in the eyes first,

2330
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 11: and so we're able to help your primary care doctor

2331
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 11: along the way with keeping you healthy as well. And so, yes,

2332
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 11: you should be getting IE exams every year. Our veterans,

2333
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 11: anyone enrolled in the VA program is eligible for eye care.

2334
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:12,880
Speaker 11: You don't need to see anybody else in the VA

2335
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:14,879
Speaker 11: to be able to see us. We are a direct

2336
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 11: scheduling service, so you can just call us directly to

2337
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 11: make your appointment. With that you're able to get a

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Speaker 11: free pair of glasses every year. So definitely come and

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Speaker 11: see us because we have We have it available to

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Speaker 11: you and we would love.

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Speaker 6: To see you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure, and I guess you also do surgery, correct,

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Speaker 1: we do.

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Speaker 11: Yes, we do cataract surgery quite routinely, as well as

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Speaker 11: glaucoma surgery and oculoplastic surgery. What's exciting about our growth

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Speaker 11: into this new building is that it allows us space

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Speaker 11: to actually bring to the VA the sub specialty surgical

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Speaker 11: services that we don't quite have now, and so hopefully

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Speaker 11: in the coming years we'll be able to expand to

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Speaker 11: be able to offer us and every service clinically and

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Speaker 11: surgically to our veterans.

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Speaker 1: Now you had mentioned before, veterans don't need to be

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Speaker 1: seeking other VA services like for example, you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess a veteran could have their own PCP that's outside

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Speaker 1: of the VA network, and then they find out there's

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Speaker 1: eye services there they can go just exclusively to get

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Speaker 1: the VAI services.

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Speaker 11: If they choose absolutely as long as they're enrolled in

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Speaker 11: VA benefits, they can come only to the eye clinic,

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Speaker 11: and we do have patients that do that, especially our

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Speaker 11: younger veterans who need contact lenses, specialty contact lenses, and

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Speaker 11: or just enjoy the benefit of getting a free pair

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Speaker 11: of glasses every year. Glasses can be expensive, and we

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Speaker 11: will have an optical shop on site in our new

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Speaker 11: building as well, so it's kind of a one stop shop.

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Speaker 11: You can get your prescription, you can go and get

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Speaker 11: your glasses all on.

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Speaker 6: The same day.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Now? I can I just ask you

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Speaker 1: because I'm intrigued. I didn't personally know that your eyes

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Speaker 1: can reveal other medical conditions within your body that you

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Speaker 1: might have another great in the CNI doctor and eye

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Speaker 1: specials at the VIA center, But can you give me

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Speaker 1: an illustration or two of what that might reveal?

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Speaker 11: Sure, So, anything that affects the blood vessels in your body, diabetes,

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Speaker 11: high blood pressure, people that are, you know, on the

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Speaker 11: verge of having a stroke, several other diseases in the body.

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Speaker 11: Because the eye has blood vessels nerves, you can see

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Speaker 11: those things early because they're smaller and they get affected first.

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Speaker 11: So let's say you're a diabetic. Before things affect your

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Speaker 11: kidneys and you know other organs in your body, we

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Speaker 11: can often see changes in your eyes that we can

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Speaker 11: help your primary care doctor or make them aware of

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Speaker 11: so they can do the necessary testing and then treat

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Speaker 11: you early.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, you mentioned the free glasses annually. You

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Speaker 1: also offer gratuitous or free contact lenses as well.

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Speaker 11: Yes, so we provide contact lenses to those that have

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Speaker 11: medical need for them. So we're not doing anything cause

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Speaker 11: medic but our patients that have medically necessary contact lenses,

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Speaker 11: we do provide the measurements and those services as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh wonderful. Well in the new center twenty ninety Florence Avenue,

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Speaker 1: Sweet three hundred and third floor, and then again that

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Speaker 1: opens on the twenty third of this month.

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Speaker 11: Yes, sir, fantastic excited.

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Speaker 1: Well and you should be. And to my veterans out there, hey,

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Speaker 1: you got to get in to see your eye doctor.

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Speaker 1: And for no other reason that pesky glaucoma problem which

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Speaker 1: doctor ramanad And can confirm, can make you blind and

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Speaker 1: you won't know you've got it if you've got it.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea I had glaucoma. It's like, hey, Brian,

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Speaker 1: guess what you got glaucoma. Welcome to the eye drops.

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Speaker 1: And the eye drops quit working. So that's when I

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Speaker 1: had to have the surgery, but as a quick painless

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Speaker 1: operation there doctor, And I'm glad I had been taking

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Speaker 1: good care of my eyes because that's again a pesky,

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Speaker 1: real problem.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and it's unfortunate how often we hear the story

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Speaker 11: of man. I wish we had gotten this taken care

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Speaker 11: of earlier.

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Speaker 1: So come see us, Come see him, doctor Romadadan, and

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Speaker 1: thanks again for what you do each and every day

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Speaker 1: at the Cincinniva. And salute all those folks at the

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Speaker 1: VA for what they're doing for the American veterans. I

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Speaker 1: hope you have a happy holidays and keep up the

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Speaker 1: great work and good luck in the new facility.

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Speaker 11: Doctor, thank you so much. Thanks for making time.

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Speaker 1: For me this morning, Oh, anytime, anytime. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: what you do.