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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. It is our number three since

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Speaker 2: the three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. The

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green News Today, if you missed it, he is

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Speaker 2: going to be meeting with doctor Timothy Kremchek and on Monday,

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Speaker 2: doctor Neil elatrosh to talk about stiffness in the right elbow.

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Speaker 2: As of now, he's talked at the ucl AS intact

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Speaker 2: that that's not an issue, but it has brought up

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions around this process and what's going

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Speaker 2: to be happening going forward with Hunter Green and the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati read So let's talk to someone who's got boots

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Speaker 2: on the ground right now. Austin in Goodyear, Arizona working

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Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Inquire nice enough to give us some

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Speaker 2: time right now, Pat Brennan, Pat, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Talk about this day a little bit because we saw

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green last year not his best outing in the

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Speaker 2: final out end of the year. His first spring training

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Speaker 2: out in this year did not go as planned. And

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Speaker 2: now we get this about the elbow stiffness about getting

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Speaker 2: the treatment of the options looked at. What do we

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Speaker 2: know at this point about Hunter Green, Well, we know.

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Speaker 4: What they're calling what the Reds are calling this situation.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if I want to call it

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Speaker 4: an injury yet because they aren't.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's right elbow stiffness.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, that's his throwing elbow, and it's something he's been

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Speaker 4: dealing with. Hunter told us this morning for the last

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Speaker 4: five or six starts of the regular season last year.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure if he includes in that the

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Speaker 4: postseason start, but obviously that that would have been part

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Speaker 4: of it, given the timeline he went into the offseason

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Speaker 4: in as he described it, the discomfort that whatever discomfort

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Speaker 4: he was dealing with seemed to dissipate after he'd been

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Speaker 4: managing it, and then basically showed up to spring training

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Speaker 4: this year and it popped back up on him about

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Speaker 4: a week before spring training actually, and.

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Speaker 3: He's been managing it.

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Speaker 4: Woke up yesterday, was scheduled to throw a side bullpen session,

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Speaker 4: and the stiffness was such that when he woke up,

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Speaker 4: he reported that to the Reds, and at this point

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Speaker 4: they decided that they need to knock this out, whatever

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Speaker 4: it is, and like you said, he's gonna go see

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Speaker 4: Kremcheck and Ella Trash and get an MRI done in

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati later this week.

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Speaker 5: When did the Reds first find out about this? Was

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Speaker 5: it when he woke up to throw yesterday or was

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Speaker 5: it last season?

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't I don't think I

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Speaker 3: know the full timeline there.

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Speaker 4: What Nick Krawl said today as he was addressing the

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Speaker 4: media was that there hadn't been a major deviation in

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Speaker 4: how Hunter had been feeling, including his first start of

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Speaker 4: the spring last week.

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Speaker 3: It really wasn't until.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday morning when Hunter woke up and reported this to

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Speaker 4: the Reds that he conveyed that it was I guess

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Speaker 4: something more than he had been experiencing. It's hard for

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Speaker 4: me to imagine the Reds would not have been aware

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Speaker 4: of this last season.

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Speaker 3: But I want to be clear, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: And that's the hard part too, because if it was

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Speaker 2: aware to the Reds, then the question would be why

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Speaker 2: not just get the imaging done and proactively try to

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Speaker 2: take care of it once the offseason hit. I know

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Speaker 2: that the discomforts and Hunter Green went away, but still

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Speaker 2: with his injury history, would it not maybe be more

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Speaker 2: if there was something more there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you would think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the the Reds were very careful today. They're

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Speaker 4: really not getting out ahead of this other than I

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Speaker 4: think eventually. Terry Francona conceded that when you look at

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Speaker 4: where we are in the calendar, and we're, you know,

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Speaker 4: tomorrow marks three weeks until opening day, the math doesn't

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Speaker 4: really add up in terms of Hunter Green being available

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Speaker 4: would have been. The math is not in Hunter's favor

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Speaker 3: But yeah, again, like.

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Speaker 4: If there was an issue of forthrightness on Hunter's part,

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Speaker 4: some point. I also don't know that to be a

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Speaker 4: would have been wise to knock that out at that time,

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Speaker 4: even if it did dissipate.

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Speaker 5: Sure, he said earlier today Pat that he knows he

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Speaker 5: has bone spurs and that as of now there is

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Speaker 5: no UCL damage. Do we know how he knows that information?

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Speaker 5: Was there a previous MRI. How did they get to

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Speaker 4: Oh geez, I don't like the sound of this interview,

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Speaker 4: So fark I get don't know, I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: will say, I mean, look, these guys have their entrance physicals,

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Speaker 4: They get poked in produ ahead of a lot. Probably

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Speaker 4: I feel comfortable saying that at least that much. You know,

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Speaker 4: they poked in product more than we do as as

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Speaker 3: So it's it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not totally shocking to me that he would be

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Speaker 4: aware of those things. But again, how that how that

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Speaker 4: jives with what to me certainly was uh a relatively

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Speaker 4: sudden revelation this morning is is uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: a little disconcerting and a little a little confusing.

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Speaker 2: I looked at at how the Reds have gone about

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Speaker 2: this and how you have outlined about you know what

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Speaker 2: was interesting what Hunter Green though had to say about,

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Speaker 2: you know, if something has to be done surgically, he

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Speaker 2: used the term getting it out of the way and

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Speaker 2: and have a big chunk of the season, or if

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Speaker 2: we have a playoff push, I'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Does that become concerning it all of Hunter talking about

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say so, just because Hunter is he's really

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Speaker 6: polished in interview settings. He's I feel like he's had

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Speaker 4: Every word is calculated. So you know, nothing he says

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Speaker 4: and you know, you could also infer from that in

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Speaker 4: he's just being professional and realistic about what the what

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Speaker 4: the possibilities are here.

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Speaker 3: Sure he at one.

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Speaker 4: Point he noted correctly that he is not a doctor.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't He himself doesn't know how all of all

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Speaker 4: of the facts as he understood them today go together

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Speaker 4: and how that's going to impact, you know, the final

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Speaker 3: From Kremcheck and l Trash.

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Speaker 4: So there's just there's a little bit of a waiting

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Speaker 4: game element to this, other than like I said, uh,

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Speaker 4: Terry Francona did kind of you know, acknowledge that the

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Speaker 4: math is not in Honor's favor in terms of making

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Speaker 4: that first scheduled start.

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Speaker 2: If if it is a substantial amount of time. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about what this means for the rest of the roster,

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Speaker 2: because Hunter even alluded to it, they do have depth

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Speaker 2: that still out now in the absence, however long that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think this is they're about. Look, I

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Speaker 4: don't think any team in MLB is well situated to

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Speaker 4: figures to be in any Cy Young Award conversation.

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Speaker 3: In any given year.

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Speaker 4: This is the top end ace type guy you don't

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Speaker 4: Reds love their depth at starting pitching, and as I

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Speaker 4: see it, they're about as well situated as you possibly

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Speaker 4: could be to And I wrote this to absorb any

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Speaker 3: They're in a good spot.

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Speaker 4: There, I think, and the evidence for that is just

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Speaker 4: that's not a bad thing. And then you know, there's

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Speaker 4: just a list of solid dudes with real meaningful MLB

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Speaker 3: Brandon Williamson, Julian Agie are Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would even put Chase Petty in there, who's had

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Speaker 3: You can put him out there if needed.

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Speaker 4: And I just if the Reds have to end up

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Speaker 4: patching over hunter Greens spot in the rotation for any

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been determined not.

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Speaker 4: The case yet, but if we get there, Like I said,

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Speaker 4: the Reds are about as well situated to absorb this

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Speaker 5: I would imagine all that being said, being in the

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Speaker 5: the vibe? How's the morale after this news that came

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, guys, look, it's not good news

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Speaker 7: it you know, I'm sure people will be holding their

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Speaker 7: of what this is next Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: But you know, all these.

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Speaker 4: Guys have to get their work in and now that

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Speaker 4: we're into the thick of games out here in Goodyear,

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Speaker 4: the morning's around the complex are shorter. Guys, skip over

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Speaker 3: Just everyone is kind of moving on their own schedule.

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Speaker 4: And you know, some guys playing today they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: quicker to get their work, and other guys who aren't,

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Speaker 4: they're hanging out. I don't think anyone would take this

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Speaker 4: I asked him about the pitching depth, and you know,

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Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, we're not going to throw in

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Speaker 4: the towel. We've worked too hard for this, and guys

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Speaker 3: And now there is a possibility that getting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, I'll start by saying, I appreciate everybody

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Speaker 8: I felt more pressure to coach tonight than I've I

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Speaker 8: for him so badly. I told the guys I had

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Speaker 2: I had us for.

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Speaker 3: I had us for.

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Speaker 2: With the share.

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Speaker 8: That's going to cause a problem.

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Speaker 2: Is your is yours working?

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Speaker 2: We lost? We lost everything? Is that better?

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Speaker 2: But the point is taken. Daydae Thomas is a dying

444
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: breed right now in college basketball because the decision he

445
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: made to stay at the University of Cincinnati and that

446
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: and UH and that performance last night and how he

447
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: was recognized, I think goes a long way for what

448
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: this team has done and is still trying to do.

449
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: I think there's still a path there. I think a

450
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: trip to TCU now TCU is now twenty and ten,

451
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: ten and seven in the Big Twelve. They just went

452
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: to Texas Tech and won last night, so I think

453
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is firmly in the field. UC has to

454
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Speaker 2: win at Texas Tech. That's a quad one win. If

455
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: they do so, that would give them four quad one wins.

456
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: It would also put them at ten and eight in

457
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: the regular season in the Big Twelve. No team has

458
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: finished in the Big twelve with a winning record and

459
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: not made the NC Double A Tournament since two thousand

460
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: and eight two thousand and nine, so there's some history

461
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: there with getting to ten and eight for the Bearcats.

462
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: After that, I think one in the Big twelve tournament

463
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: makes things interesting. I think two in the Big twelve

464
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 2: tournament gets them into the dance, not saying that one

465
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: doesn't get them in, but it would be dicey. I

466
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: think two twenty total wins and this is an NC

467
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA Tournament team. That game happens Saturday at two o'clock

468
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: in Fort Worth, Texas. We will come back. We will

469
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Speaker 2: finish up with a phone call er two next on

470
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

471
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Speaker 5: Seams in the Big Twelve of women's basketball tournament.

472
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Speaker 2: Tone have you seen this?

473
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: I've seen the court and I don't think it's that impressive.

474
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 5: To this point, the court looks pretty normal. It's the

475
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 5: first round the Big Twelve Tournament. This is where the

476
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 5: men will be playing as well. That court you've referenced, well,

477
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 5: the Bearcats, the Lady Bearcats were the first game. Yeah,

478
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: and they ran in it last to Kansas State, and

479
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 5: all Kansas State did was hit a Big Twelve Tournament

480
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 5: record seventeen threes. You want to talk about a barrage

481
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 5: from distance, Yeah, seventeenth.

482
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: Three is that court man. They couldn't get used to

483
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: the court.

484
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: For Kansas State, and they blew out Cincinnati I believe

485
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 5: ninety one to sixty six.

486
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far into it, but

487
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: all of the hype going into this year around U

488
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: SEE women's basketball and d Alexander and her emergence and

489
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: staying home at Cincinnati eleven and twenty is a disappointing

490
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: season for I think some of the groundwork that had

491
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 2: been laid for women's basketball at you see.

492
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Speaker 5: Yeah, she got hurt in that kind of ye took

493
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 5: the wind out of the sails right away for them.

494
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Yep, Mark is calling in. What's up? Mark?

495
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 9: Put you there? Guys, what's for you today?

496
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Good?

497
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 9: Hey, I kind of was in and out one of

498
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 9: your name in the names of those who played in

499
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 9: the past with the number twenty two. I'm not sure

500
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 9: if you said this guy or not, but the guy

501
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 9: I'm picking up his name was Dave Collins, playing back

502
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 9: in the seventies and early eighties. He really really fast kid,

503
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 9: wasn't a big hitter, but he's left handed batter, could

504
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 9: get up there and you know, lap one to the

505
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 9: left side and get you beat the runout. Yeah to

506
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 9: play out at first, great guy, Yeah, and I worked out.

507
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 9: So my next thing is when you have bone spurs

509
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 9: in any place in your body, it really does take

510
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 9: a toll on what you can do and what you

511
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 9: can't do. I had something taking off my elbow, he said,

512
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 9: twenty two of the my head. Well, years of throwing

513
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 9: the baseball. I was a pitcher. I also was a

514
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 9: pitching coach for a while at high school. And the

515
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 9: reason you get those is because you are on fastballs.

516
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 9: Everybody thought it was always the curveball that ruined your

517
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 9: with elbows and your arms and all those things. It's

518
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 9: actually the fastball, because the fastball requires you to load

519
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 9: up and throw as hard as you can. Yeah, well,

520
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 9: but you got a guy like like got a guy

521
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 9: like Hunter Green. We know he's been doing that his

522
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 9: whole life. He doesn't know how to throw ninety five

523
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 9: and get people out. He has to throw one hundred

524
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 9: and hundred and five and it took tollin' his arm.

525
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 9: That's why he's now. I think he needs to just

526
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 9: shut it down for a while and he's can heal

527
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 9: up because it's never gonna heal if he keeps doing

528
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 9: the same things over and over.

529
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: You know what, he just did shut it down for

530
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: five months, didn't he, Mark?

531
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Speaker 9: And now you see this, I know it's not enough obviously,

532
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 9: because he's got problems there. He's gonna have it sur

533
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 9: surgically removed. What's gonna have to happen, and that's gonna

534
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 9: take the rest of this season if he does.

535
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just how long it takes to come back

536
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: from that. Yeah.

537
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 9: I understand it's not the UCL, but it is something

538
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 9: serious in your elbow, and it does cause lots of

539
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 9: pain when you throw or go through that motion.

540
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, I appreciate the phone call. Thank you. Yeah,

541
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: and I think part of this with Hunter as well.

542
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: Austin the last couple of years, he's had the groin issue,

543
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: so maybe that affects what he's able to do or

544
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: not do lower body wise. And if you're not able

545
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: to drive as much with the groin, maybe you put

546
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more pressure on the elbow as well. Yeah,

547
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: and those things play into each other, certainly a possibility.

548
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: Regardless of any of that, just be proactive and get

549
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: the thing looked at. I would love to know. I

550
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: am excited. I'm ecstatic to know what Moager thinks about

551
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: the Hunter Green situation. And I think we've got an

552
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to find out that and more for mo Next

553
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: for quick Kits on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

554
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 10: From the Johnson Heating Temps Star Weather Center, here's your forecast.

555
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 11: This report is sponsored by Brad Versus Everyone Podcast.

556
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 10: Many of us catching a break from the rain this afternoon,

557
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 10: but some hit and miss showers will be out there

558
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 10: with a high near sixty two, so we're still warming

559
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 10: up this evening and tonight, though showers and storms become

560
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 10: more common. A couple of bos could be on the

561
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 10: strong side and a lot of that rain continuing into

562
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 10: Thursday morning with the low only near fifty six. Tomorrow

563
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 10: afternoon some hit and miss leftover rain with a high

564
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 10: near sixty seven. That's the forecast. I'm nine first warning

565
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 10: met religious mark.

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Speaker 2: Stits dangerous social media.

567
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pike's sixty

568
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: three six right from MO.

569
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: We got Mo with us. Yes it's quick kits. Yes,

570
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: he's right there. A little pep in the step of

571
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: Mo today. I just don't know why, but Mo obviously

572
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: excited about the next three hours on the Mowagger Show.

573
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: And I'm sure what's ahead for you. But what can

574
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: folks expect from three to six today?

575
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 11: Well, I think for for three big hours, we're going

576
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 11: to talk about where the day Da Thomas statue goes Wow.

577
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 11: We're going to talk about the contract extension for for

578
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 11: Wes Miller. We're going to talk about what the school

579
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 11: may do if this team wins a national title. The

580
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 11: sky seems to be the limit, fellas, because the Bearcats

581
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 11: aren't just winning games.

582
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Did you say national title?

583
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: He did?

584
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: I hear that correctly, he did. Who's playing better right now?

585
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: If the sky is the limit, then, Okay, I just

586
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: want to make sure I heard that correctly.

587
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 11: I just you know it, just if the sky is

588
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 11: the limit, which it seems to be when you're just

589
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 11: constantly hammering people, of course, yeah you're not. Just you're

590
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 11: not just routinely eking out wins. Yeah you're not. Just

591
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 11: you know, Oh you know the other team dribble the

592
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 11: ball off the foot in the last second escape with No,

593
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 11: you're hammering people. When you're hammering people in the Big Twelve,

594
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 11: when you are playing like perhaps the best team in

595
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 11: the Big Twelve, then the sky is the limit. And

596
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 11: if the sky is the limit, then with the National

597
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 11: Championship has to be the limit. And we will probably

598
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 11: devote the entire three hours to this topic because I

599
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 11: don't want to talk about Hunter greens bum elbow again.

600
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Oh can you make something make sense that Austin and

601
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't put together in the last three hours. Let's

602
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: try his last five to six starts of last year,

603
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: he dealt with discomfort in the elbow. Then the offseason

604
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: came and he stopped throwing as much and the discomfort

605
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: went away. And now a week before spring training, when

606
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: he's ramping back up the discomfort becomes an issue again.

607
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: He did not pitch well in his final outing last year.

608
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: He did not pitch well in his first spring training

609
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: outing this year. My question to this MO when the

610
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: season ended last year, how are you immediately not getting

611
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: an MRI, getting that looked at and seeing if there's

612
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: something you can do proactively in the off season to

613
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: avoid something like this today.

614
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know why there's not at least a

615
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 11: medical look into what's going on. That doesn't mean you

616
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 11: have to have a procedure, but I don't know why. Hey,

617
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 11: you gutted through the end of the season, which everybody admires.

618
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 11: That's great, But why is there not a hey, you know,

619
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 11: we did get to the last five or six starts

620
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 11: with some discomfort. Let's just take a look and maybe

621
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 11: we're still dealing with the same thing. I don't know

622
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 11: what's interesting to me and Jeff Carr and I are

623
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 11: going to talk about this in the five o'clock hour.

624
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 11: The Hunter Green quotes from two weeks ago. He sounded emphatic,

625
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 11: like he's ready to show people. He's ready to show

626
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 11: people what he can do. He's ready to throw in

627
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 11: the people's faces who defamed his character, but in the

628
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 11: back of his mind he just had an injection into

629
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 11: his elbow and started to deal with more discomfort as

630
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 11: spring training grew closer, Like I, there's weirdness here. There's

631
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 11: no getting around it. We all love Hunter Green, we

632
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 11: all love what he can be. We all understand it's

633
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 11: importance to the team, but it's there's just it's never

634
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 11: just cut and dry. It feels like with so many

635
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 11: of these guys, and Hunter Greens at the top of

636
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 11: that list, I do not know. I'm with you, guys,

637
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 11: I do not know how when the season ended, we

638
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 11: don't just go in to take a peek and see

639
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 11: what's going on. It doesn't make that much sense to me.

640
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Do you do you look at what Hunter Green said

641
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: today and how he used the term a chunk of

642
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: the season or would be ready to go for a

643
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: playoff push if surgery is the option? Do you worry

644
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: about that in the way that Hunter is talking about this.

645
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: The Reds have been more quiet about it, but Hunter

646
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: in a sense said, you know, hopefully I can be

647
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: there for a chunk of the year. Hopefully we're in

648
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: a playoff scenario and I'm there for the playoff push.

649
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound optimistic to me at this point. It

650
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like I might miss a start.

651
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 11: That doesn't sound like, well, they may have to push

652
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 11: my opening days start back a few and we'll let

653
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 11: Nick Lodolo or somebody else pitch game one and I'll

654
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 11: be there for the six game. That chunk of the

655
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 11: season is not two weeks. That's a sliver. Remember we

656
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 11: did with Zach Taylor. We had to like come up

657
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 11: with what the definition is of several wasn't because some

658
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 11: players gonna miss several weeks. So now we have to

659
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 11: talk about what does a chunk mean? Because there's a chunk,

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Speaker 11: there's a sliver, there's a slice. Ye, there's a God,

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Speaker 11: I don't know what does chunk mean? Is chunk a month?

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Speaker 11: This chunk two months? Like what is a chunk of

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Speaker 11: a season? But like then it's playoff push And it's like, well,

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Speaker 11: playoff push is September, dude. But I mean he's gonna

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Speaker 11: get the opinions of two people and then then what right,

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Speaker 11: Like then, what doesn't seem like Hunter will be on

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Speaker 11: the mound in the fourth game of the season, or

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Speaker 11: Hunter will be on the mound by mid April. I

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Speaker 11: don't know man, And like with Hunter Green, like it

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Speaker 11: or not, this is a part of the conversation. You

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Speaker 11: can't help but talk about him without talking about And

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Speaker 11: this is no indictment on his characters. It's a statement

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Speaker 11: of fact. He's hurt a lot and his importance to

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Speaker 11: the team is inflated to a degree because of how

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Speaker 11: good he is, but his ability to be important to

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00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 11: the team is compromised because he's always dealing with something physically. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: and this was hopefully going to be the year where

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Speaker 11: that was not going to be the case. Now it

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Speaker 11: won't be like this is a thing. And it's also like,

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Speaker 11: you know, their depth is going to be tested at

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Speaker 11: some point. Does it have to be tested in spring training?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And how much how much of the discomfort weighed into

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Speaker 2: him performing at the end of the year last year?

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Speaker 2: If it was to the last five or six starts

686
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Speaker 2: and then you know it's it's the same old we

687
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: hear well, Ellie struggled because he was actually injured and

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Speaker 2: he just played through it. Hunter played through five or

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Speaker 2: six outings. We had this same deal with Spencer Steere

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Speaker 2: and Matt McLain, who go the whole offseason and the

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: year starts in their injury. It's just it's too much

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Speaker 2: of the same issue right now for the Reds when

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Speaker 2: it comes to spring training in the off season.

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Speaker 5: I want to know when did the Reds know about this?

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Speaker 5: Did they know during the last five or six games?

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Speaker 5: And you know, Hunter was a dude who kind of

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Speaker 5: like went through his own process with his groin last year.

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Speaker 5: Did he try to go through his own process this offseason?

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Speaker 5: How did he find out he had bonesburs? How did

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Speaker 5: he knows ucl is intact? Was there an MRI previously?

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Speaker 5: Did the Reds know about the injection? What was in

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Speaker 5: the injection?

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Speaker 2: Like, none of it adds up.

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Speaker 11: No, Well, there was a communication gap apparently last year

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Speaker 11: during the season when he was coming off the groin injury.

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Speaker 11: Right So, if there was one communication issue between Hunter

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Speaker 11: Green and the Reds, which even if it wasn't a

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Speaker 11: communication issue, it seemed to be a not on the

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Speaker 11: same page issue, why would we then assume that that's

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Speaker 11: not the case this offseason?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 11: Look, at the end of the year, he had those

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Speaker 11: two starts, the one against the Mets on that Sunday

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Speaker 11: Labor Day where he was awesome, and then the one

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Speaker 11: against the Cubs where he went the full nine, they

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Speaker 11: win won nothing. He was even better, and so he

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Speaker 11: had some starts at the end of the season where

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Speaker 11: he was lights out and one of the reasons why

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Speaker 11: they made the postseason were those two games. But like Hunter,

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Speaker 11: Green felt betray or fell slandered or was hurt because

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Speaker 11: there was the insinuation that he wasn't doing everything he

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Speaker 11: could to come back from a groin injury last year.

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Speaker 11: So then is it like, well, I'm dealing with elbow discomfort,

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Speaker 11: can't can't let on the fact that I'm dealing with soreness,

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Speaker 11: So now I'm gonna maybe push myself like I don't

726
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Speaker 11: know that the answer is yes or no. But unfortunately,

727
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Speaker 11: when it comes to something like this with this particular player,

728
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Speaker 11: there are more questions than answers, and that's deeply frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Which would lead me, because he has been often injured,

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Speaker 2: to go above and beyond in the off season to

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Speaker 2: make sure everything's good. That's even more reason to say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's just take a look at it and make sure

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Speaker 2: everything's okay. Now I know, Mo, that it was made

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Speaker 2: official yesterday, you posted the picture yesterday. Do you still

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Speaker 2: have a segment set aside this afternoon for maybe anything

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Speaker 2: else on Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 11: Not really, okay, I mean we are going to talk

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Speaker 11: about as the coming days unfold, about what they do

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Speaker 11: at edge rusher, and so you know you are gonna

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Speaker 11: be talking about the players that effectively replace Trey Hendrickson.

741
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Speaker 11: I do think, and I don't know that I'm gonna

742
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Speaker 11: dive too deep into this today, but like what they

743
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Speaker 11: have chosen to do is fascinating. They have willingly moved

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Speaker 11: on from a player that many regard as the best

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Speaker 11: free agent available. That's that's a fascinating story, and it's

746
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Speaker 11: a fascinating story in terms of how things unfold with

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Speaker 11: Trey moving forward. Yeah, Like pass rush is king. I mean,

748
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Speaker 11: like I think we've all understood how this was gonna unfold.

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Speaker 11: We've all understood, like the Bengals have had no plans

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Speaker 11: for Trey Hendrickson to be on the team in twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty six. Like we've accepted that, whether you agree with

752
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Speaker 11: it or not, We've had a lot of fun with it.

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Speaker 11: But pass rush is king.

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Speaker 6: Cool?

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Speaker 11: Uh, here you had a guy who two years ago

756
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Speaker 11: led the league in sacks. That's pass rushes king. Yet

757
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Speaker 11: you're let him go and he's arguably the best free agent.

758
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Speaker 11: So where it goes from here is extraordinarily interesting. Do

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Speaker 11: they look back on the end of this at the

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Speaker 11: end of this coming season and go, you know what,

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Speaker 11: our plan to replace Trey worked and we got it right.

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Speaker 11: Does Trey play in twenty twenty six like he did

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Speaker 11: in twenty twenty four and make the Bengals look bad?

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Speaker 11: Does he play against the Bengals? Uh, There's so many

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Speaker 11: different things that make this interesting, but I don't know

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Speaker 11: that beyond that I have that much on Trey. We

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Speaker 11: will talk to James Rapine and get sort of a

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Speaker 11: free agency overview in the five o'clock hour, and we're

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Speaker 11: gonna talk with the doctor from Orthos sizy four twenty

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Speaker 11: about Hunter Green, plus Rick Browing on the Muskies and

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Speaker 11: best sports book I have read so far this year.

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Speaker 11: He's gonna join us at four forty five. We are

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Speaker 11: loaded today plus Jeff Carr plus the latest from Goodyear.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot going on. Oh, and the UC Bearcats

777
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 11: are gonna make the NCAA Tournament, as are the Miami RedHawks,

778
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Speaker 11: Lovett and the NK and Norse that starts Tonah day

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Speaker 11: buck eyes hope.

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Speaker 2: So all right, MO, have a great show. Everybody gets

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Speaker 2: a bit.

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Speaker 11: Everybody you get a bit. And that's aager.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, thanks moo, bye Mo.

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Speaker 3: See you guys. That is Moager.

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Speaker 5: I hope Mo's not concealing any bone spurs. Great question,

786
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Speaker 5: great point. Well this again tomorrow, have a great day.

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Speaker 5: Mowagger is next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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