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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. All killer, no filler,

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Speaker 1: Mark Madden X. Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom Rogers

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Speaker 1: will not practice tomorrow. He's got a broken bone in

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Speaker 1: his left wrist. Should he play at Chicago? And who

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Speaker 1: should make that call?

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Speaker 2: I think it comes down to if you think Rudolph

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Speaker 2: can beat the Bears, and you just said that you

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Speaker 2: do believe Rudolph can beat the Bears. I too believe

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Speaker 2: Rudolf can beat the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I believe Rudolph one hundred percent has a better chance

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Speaker 1: to beat the Bears than Rudolph with a broken risk,

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Speaker 1: freshly broken risk Rogers with a freshly broken wrist.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I completely agree, So I would start Rudolph

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Speaker 2: as far as who makes this decision obviously should be

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Speaker 2: the head coach, right, But are you implying that the

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Speaker 2: quarterback QB one might have something more to say about this?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what about the doctors making the decision? What

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Speaker 1: about them saying Okay, he should play or shouldn't play,

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Speaker 1: and then the coaching quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Can decide.

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Speaker 1: But like like Kendroll Well, who was the Steelers who

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Speaker 1: was the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year way back

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Speaker 1: when he did a weekly radio show with me, and

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Speaker 1: as he said, because they always rushed him back to

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Speaker 1: play when he was still hurt and his career suffered

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Speaker 1: because of it, he should always remember when they say

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Speaker 1: team doctor, team comes from four doctor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I bet the team doctors are gonna say

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Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt a lot. He probably won't hurt it

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Speaker 2: that much worse, though, So it's just amount of.

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Speaker 3: Tough point all that.

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Speaker 1: It would seem that having that ball jammed into your

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Speaker 2: Don't think the snaps under center. Shotgun snaps would be

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Speaker 2: tricky too, But I don't think you can do under

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Speaker 2: center very much if you're really so every snap's going

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Speaker 2: to be out of the shotgun. I would guess it

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Speaker 2: just makes no sense to start Rogers. If we're getting

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Speaker 2: into this scenario, you should start Rudolph. He can beat

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Speaker 2: the Bears, and then Mark, is it greedy of me

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Speaker 2: to think if he beats the Bears, start Rudolph against

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Speaker 2: the Bills at home. Give Rogers another week off, and

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Speaker 2: he's completely fresh and healthy for that Ravens game on

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Speaker 3: It would depend on the status of his wrist.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean there's a lot of scenarios

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Speaker 1: that I would examine, which they absolutely will not. If

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Speaker 1: Rogers wants to play and he practices Friday, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play on Sunday, for better or for worse. And it's

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Speaker 1: not like Rudolph played bad against Cincinnati. He did fine.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like Rogers is struggling, hurt and needs

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Speaker 1: a break. But again, the Steelers never think past the

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Speaker 1: next game, never look a big picture like you and

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Speaker 1: I were just doing. The slay thing is even crazier.

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Speaker 1: Sleigh stinks he's washed up. He shouldn't get a helmet,

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Speaker 1: let alone get the start. Pierre played maybe the best

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Speaker 1: Sleigh's ready, He's in there. We'll find something for Pierre

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Speaker 1: to do. That was almost condescending you. He'll have a role,

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Speaker 1: we'll let him, We'll let him dress.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Paint Pierre in this light of a young player ascending,

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Speaker 2: because he's twenty nine years old going on thirty. But

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Speaker 2: he is for sure ascending and deserves to play more

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Speaker 2: Snaps at that outside corner position. But furthermore, the first

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Speaker 2: thing you said is the most true.

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Speaker 3: Sleigh sucks now.

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Speaker 2: He's washed up and a major liability when he's on

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Speaker 3: Pierre has been showing you something.

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Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin gave you the line in the press

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Speaker 2: conference to today where he was like, well, when you're

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Speaker 2: a backup, you get targeted a lot. That's why you

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Speaker 2: have a lot of passes defense.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but he's still getting the passes defense.

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Speaker 1: Tom Went is such an ass. He is just such

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Speaker 1: an ass. Every word that tumbles out of his mouth,

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Speaker 1: his horseman ure. If he told me the sun was

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Speaker 1: out the door. He is just such a con artist.

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Speaker 1: Not the con artist, that's the bean Connor who shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Be the GM. I'm just so down on the way

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Speaker 3: the Steelers are run.

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Speaker 1: These are just bad decisions, an exemplary of the Steelers

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Speaker 1: flawed process. It's man up or next man up or

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Speaker 1: veteran respect and blah blah blah, empty platitudes and Tom.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Tom Wain said Ramsey needed to be smarter

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Speaker 1: today tom Wins said it was okay, implied it was

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Speaker 1: okay to hit Chase.

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Speaker 3: Which is it?

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Speaker 2: Do you think Ramsey called Mike Tomlin into his office

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Speaker 2: and said, hey, listen, coach, I got spit on this

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Speaker 2: goes Ramsey have an office. No, I was just kidding around.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised though maybe he does.

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Speaker 1: Oh No, I think for sure. I mean, Tomin was

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Speaker 1: the league. I bet after he said Ramsey wasn't smart,

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Speaker 1: he read the room, namely the dressing room, and realized

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that the coach should have stood

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Speaker 2: in the moment, but you got to react smarter there.

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Speaker 2: We need our starting safety to be out there for

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Speaker 2: the entire fourth quarter of a game.

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Speaker 3: The Rogers thing has me insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I know most coaches would play the

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback or let the veter quarterback decide, But it's

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Speaker 1: not all blood and guts. Football left blood and guts

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Speaker 1: behind a long time ago. Look at those three roughing

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Speaker 1: the passer calls. This past Sunday blud and guts. You know,

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Speaker 1: the trains left the station. It's not coming back. The

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Speaker 1: question is can he take this, can he be effective?

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Speaker 1: Can there be further damage? And logistics?

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Speaker 2: And I have to wonder if there's a little bit

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Speaker 2: Bears again. He's oh no, I don't know, Mark. He

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Speaker 2: loves playing the Bears. He dominates the Bears, especially there.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's every football player's nature to want

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Speaker 1: to play hurt and they gotta be real deal.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think if this was a different game, a non

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Speaker 2: division game, like if this was the Seahawks, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe Rogers would be a little bit cooler on this

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Speaker 2: and be like, I need a week.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It just I get Toma should have been fired years ago,

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Speaker 1: and every so often he reminds us why and in

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Speaker 1: a big way. And then again at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season where it doesn't quite add up to what

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Speaker 2: Well, when the players just are begging him to play

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Speaker 2: them more, with Nick Herbig on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, James Pierre, and he just keeps going back

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Speaker 2: to the big paychecks, the guys who are the more

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Speaker 2: veteran players. With high Smith and Sleigh. It's just it's

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Speaker 2: insufferable because that's a gift for a coach to see

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Speaker 2: a young player like her big ascend above a high

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Speaker 2: played player like Highsmith, to see player like Pierre step

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Speaker 1: Laugh And if you're Pierre, You're like, oh f I mean,

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Speaker 1: could you point? You don't think James Pierre knows that

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Speaker 1: Darius Slay stinks. Now, you don't think that whole dressing

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Speaker 3: Come on, they do.

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Speaker 2: They all do, absolutely so, And again I don't know

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Speaker 2: what else you could do if you're James Pierre. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: at this point you're probably putting your hands up and say,

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Speaker 2: what more could I do to become a starter on

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Speaker 2: this defense? I've been arguably your best corner for the

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, he could play Peter out

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Speaker 1: and then you know, whoever goes back, and I'd still

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Speaker 1: least let Pierre do that. At least let him prove

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Speaker 1: he can't or can't sustain.

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Speaker 2: But the number one point is Slay stinks. Slay is

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Speaker 2: a problem, a huge liability. Can't have him out there.

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Speaker 1: Darius shouldn't play Slay ever again, some some bucco news,

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Speaker 1: your wallet. West, ruler of Steelers Nation Radio, had a

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Speaker 1: great line. He said, Pitton Virginia Tech should be a

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Speaker 1: it the insufferable whammy.

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Speaker 1: Franklin, like I just said, got hired at Virginia Tech yesterday.

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Speaker 1: With his recruiting, Virginia Tech will be an acc power

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Speaker 1: and it won't take long. We always say Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that's the case anymore. But it

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Speaker 1: turns out that description did apply to James Franklin. As

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Speaker 1: we found out late yesterday's program, Jamar Chase got suspended

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Speaker 1: a game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey did

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Speaker 1: not get suspended for punching Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Ramsey didn't get suspended, But would you rather

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Speaker 1: be punched or spit at?

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Speaker 3: Chase? Is appealing?

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Speaker 1: He says, if he meant to spit, did I hit

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Speaker 3: Yo, dude, you did it. Own it.

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Speaker 1: It's about action and not accuracy. One thing good about

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers maybe being available for Sunday is the will

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Speaker 1: Howard should play. Talk is quiet at a bit, but

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Speaker 1: if Rudolph has to play and he throws an incompletion

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Speaker 1: one incompletion, it'll ratchet up again, and God forbid Rudolph

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Speaker 1: would throw a pick, It'll be the Spanish Inquisition. The

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Speaker 1: Penguins don't play till Friday, but we got Ryan Shape,

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Speaker 1: one of their defensemen, on the show at four thirty.

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Speaker 1: What I'm wondering is, do you think they're kind of

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Speaker 1: Nashville four nil at Sweden on Sunday, but they have

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Speaker 1: lost six out of their last nine. But they have

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Speaker 1: the third most points in the Eastern Conference, and the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference may be the worst any conference in the

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Speaker 1: NHL has been since the old Western Division from nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty seven through nineteen seventy, which had all a expansion teams,

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Speaker 1: including the Penguins. First three years of expansion, they put

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Speaker 1: all the expansion teams in the West Division, all the

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Speaker 1: original six in the East, and then the three Stanley

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Speaker 1: Cup finals were all sweeps. Saint Louis made the final

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Speaker 1: every year and got swept every year. Montreal for ZIP,

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Speaker 1: Montreal for ZIP, Boston for ZIP.

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Speaker 1: Thing really in the Penguins favor. We have Peerre McGuire

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Speaker 1: back in. Tom Were you surprised Chase got suspended in

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Speaker 3: I think it's lucky that Ramsey didn't get tagged.

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Speaker 3: But getting ejected in a one score game is just done.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think it feels like he's gonna play this game?

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Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be a mistake. He's

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Speaker 1: And don't forget he pulled Rudolph for Duck. That's it

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: He pulled him for a quarterback that played at D

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Speaker 2: So if he was so willing to bench Rudolph for Duck, yeah,

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Speaker 2: My god.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Duck makes Will Howard look like auto.

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Speaker 2: Quaint exactly, So yeah, could it could definitely happen. Rudolph

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Speaker 1: Have the Steelers ever had a worse quarterback than Duck, who,

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they've had a worse quarterback than Duck.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett statistically kind of gives him a run for

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Speaker 3: But I can't say that about my pitman, Kenny Pikett.

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Speaker 3: I can't say he's worst, and Duck I can't stand either.

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Speaker 3: And I can't say Pickt's worse than Duck. How bad?

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Speaker 3: Who's the country start? Did he marry her? Lady Wilson,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're married. Yep, suitcase Pittman. That's a

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith sucked on Monday Night football? I keep picking

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Speaker 2: Carrol won't even throw him out there, apparently if his

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Speaker 1: I gotta get this in there, Tom, Jeff, Uh is

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Speaker 3: I think it's passing, Jeff passing? He looks funny? Should

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Speaker 2: Don't he look funny? Looks like a wax figure. Oh

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Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, he said, however, you pronounced Dave that Connor

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Speaker 1: last year. That's the Pirates leaking to pass in to

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Speaker 3: So you ignore that they don't increase payroll. That's all

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Speaker 1: Sherrington told him that, and you know, Passon's gonna go

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Speaker 1: and you wrote something about the Pirates or said something

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Speaker 3: Do the Pirates make the playoffs? I say no. I'm

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Our odds are so in our favor. So they get

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a mistake to promote him.

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Speaker 1: It would be very hasty to bring him from Double

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Speaker 2: Plus, it's not what's best for the Pirates and their

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Speaker 2: They want to keep that hope down there in the

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't think he's going to make

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Speaker 2: Hype, and they'll dangle it in spring training too, like Connor,

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Speaker 2: tripa a mark. Don't you think the national media, though,

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Speaker 2: is derelict of their duty here by advancing this BS

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Speaker 1: But you get something out there about the Pirates a

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Speaker 2: Can't you at least attach that to it though, and

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Speaker 2: This is what I was told by the team, I'm

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Speaker 1: Actually, even the best baseball writers, whether you know national

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Speaker 2: Game, for baseball in particular. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Even though I like him, I like passing, I like them.

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Speaker 1: I've gotta be honest almost every sport. Now, that's the

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Speaker 1: Name a national football writer who's really tough on football,

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Speaker 3: One national writer.

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Speaker 2: It's tough for me because all the people that I

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Speaker 3: Coward can be. Yeah, and he's in the minority. But

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Speaker 3: None, none of them. Stephen A. Smith I can kind

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't watch I don't know, but yeah, but writer,

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Speaker 3: Peter King was gonna be the one I said. He

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Speaker 1: We got a SoundBite from Matt Hasselbeck where he compares

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Speaker 2: And his best quality is a quarterback was handing it

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Speaker 2: off to Sean Alexander, right, I don't remember he was

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Speaker 2: Mark for the Seahawks matts back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was in the other half.

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Speaker 2: Now ten Tim's of bomb. Tim would never get a

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Speaker 3: What what a what a super Bowl? Lacking in star

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Speaker 2: I remember is uh, we had Ben and Bettis on

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Speaker 2: you know, no, I said, I said Ben, or didn't know?

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Speaker 2: You said Bettis?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they both did. Bet just didn't really do anything.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I remember is is Antoine Randall el

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Speaker 1: and Heinese and Parker right hind because I have a

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Speaker 1: good reason for it, though Tom I had a heart

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Speaker 1: attack the week before five nine the X.

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Speaker 3: Listen to the X everywhere you go, everywhere, tell your

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Speaker 4: Think outing of Mercedes Benz is out of reach, Think

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Speaker 2: Bulevard had Bobby Rayhall Motorcar Company in Wexford.

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Speaker 1: I keep getting told that I'm gonna vast minority because

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Speaker 1: anybody who would get spin on would beat the crap

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Speaker 1: out of whoever did it.

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Speaker 4: Well.

442
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Speaker 3: First of most you couldn't. I know, I couldn't at

443
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Speaker 3: this point.

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Speaker 1: All what happened to most of you is somebody would

445
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 1: spit on you. You'd smack him and then then beat the

446
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 1: crap out of you. You'd be over too and covered

447
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 1: in spit and blood. But the point isn't the reaction

448
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 1: to being spin on. The point is your reaction to

449
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 1: being spin on when you're in the middle of a

450
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Speaker 1: one score game. That's the point. I wouldn't get thrown

451
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Speaker 1: out of a one score game and hurt my team's

452
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Speaker 1: chances of winning for the sake of avenging saliva.

453
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Speaker 3: A little bit later, you're up big late, then take.

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Speaker 1: His knee out, beats the heck out of a punch

455
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Speaker 1: to the gin, which didn't seem to hurt Chase.

456
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Speaker 3: By the way up.

457
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Speaker 1: Dallas killed Vegas last night on Monday Night football and

458
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Speaker 1: George Picktts formally of this parish, had a monster game

459
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 1: at wide out, nine catches, one hundred and forty four

460
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown and the touch that was insane.

461
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Speaker 1: He made a catch and a couple cuts and boom afterwards.

462
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, the Dallas owner slash GM slash fanboy slash,

463
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Speaker 1: perhaps he needs to trying to think of a nice

464
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Speaker 1: way to say that he could be experiencing dementia symptoms.

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Speaker 3: I am.

466
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Speaker 1: He compared Pickett's touchdown to ballet, which is pretty good call,

467
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Speaker 1: and of course this reignited the discussion locally that the

468
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Speaker 1: stealer should have kept Pickens and hey, look at the numbers.

469
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Speaker 1: Fifty eight catches, nine hundred and eight yards, fifteen point

470
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: seven yards per catch, and seven touchdowns. Pretty impressive. Those

471
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Speaker 1: are better numbers than DK and Austin have combined. Add

472
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: up their stats for all four categories catches, yards, yards

473
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Speaker 1: per in, touchdowns, and DK and Austin combined trel George Pickens.

474
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Speaker 1: But I still think the Steelers did the right thing

475
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: trading him because A. Dallas's offense gets him the ball

476
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Speaker 1: and makes plays. They're not stuck in prehistory. B. Piketts

477
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 1: is protected by CDEE lamb a legit number one. Why

478
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: not and see you don't win with guys like Pickens Dallas?

479
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Ain't They're four five and one? How many times here Pittsburgh?

480
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: Do you stupid yokels, have to see your team not

481
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Speaker 1: win with guys like that to understand that you don't

482
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Speaker 1: win with guys like that. I would have let the

483
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Speaker 1: ab levey on bell era, which wasted Ben Roethlisberger and

484
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Speaker 1: where Tom Win lost the team's culture permanently. I would

485
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Speaker 1: have figured you might have learned from that. But the

486
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 1: keyword there was learned, So no, I'm not surprised it didn't.

487
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: By the way, ab update, he is facing thirty years

488
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: in prison, is out on bail charged with attempted murder

489
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Speaker 1: with a gun. Apparently he grabbed a gun from a

490
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Speaker 1: security guard in Miami after attending a celebrity boxing match,

491
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Speaker 1: and he fired two shots. Fired two shots that a

492
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Speaker 1: guy had been in a fistfight with earlier. I believe

493
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: ab produced the Paul Stanley defense and plead that's no shotgun.

494
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Speaker 1: That's my love gun. And by the way, that would

495
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Speaker 1: be in keeping with some texts he sent to some women.

496
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: I know, I got him in pretty impressive machinery. People

497
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Speaker 1: show me everything. There's a girl who got a bunch

498
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: of nude texts from a member of the two thousand

499
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Speaker 1: and nine Penguin Stanley Cup champions that she showed me.

500
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Speaker 3: I mean, well, she showed me one. I didn't want

501
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: to see no more after that.

502
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: But and you're gonna say, well, Madden, why won't you

503
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: say that as you say if it was a B.

504
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: You just said it was a B. Is it because

505
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: you like the Penguin? Yes it is, Yes, it is.

506
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Speaker 1: Tom Uh. When you were in the dating period with

507
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: your wife, did you exchange any sexting?

508
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Speaker 3: That's none of your basiness.

509
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Speaker 2: Mark, come on, oh, come on, you can tell me, Okay,

510
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: we're private right now? Yeah, yeah, we did really of course,

511
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Speaker 2: are you kidding me?

512
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Speaker 3: Pictures too? No, pictures come on now, like like like

513
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Speaker 3: your pictures.

514
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: Pictures can really expose you, that can really get you

515
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble. But dirt if you get

516
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Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

518
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Speaker 2: If you get caught with pictures on your phone, though, Mark,

519
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: you're cooked big time. Well if I mean, that's child

520
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: pornography right there? What do you mean if you're a

521
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: miners passing around pictures to each other when your wife

522
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: when you started to date high school?

523
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Speaker 3: My man, Oh, let's cut this conversation off right now.

524
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: I feel like Jeffreys, you're a little weird right now. Yes,

525
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: you didn't know that. I didn't. You've only been working

526
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: with me for five years. I'm not how old are you?

527
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 3: Thirty one? How long have you been you've been taking

528
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: your wife for like fifteen years? That's right.

529
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they congratulate you or or like

530
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Speaker 1: not feel bad.

531
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're happier than me. You're bad. I'm

532
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: having a great time.

533
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean well, I mean one, I mean, like,

534
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: how old were you? How old were you when you

535
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Speaker 1: started dating.

536
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: Probably around fourteen fifteen years old. Are you serious sophomore

537
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Speaker 2: year high school?

538
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you serious? High school? Did you ever break

539
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: up in that time?

540
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Speaker 4: No?

541
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Speaker 3: We made it through college long distance. Never cheated. You know,

542
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: we're cheated. I don't believe it. As far as I know,

543
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: she didn't cheat. I don't believe that. I can see

544
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: in your eyes that you're lying.

545
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm lying. Does she listen every day? I

546
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: don't know if she listens every day.

547
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 3: Well, she's not right now, so you can tell me.

548
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: Never cheated. Where'd you go to college? I went to

549
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: du Cane. That's believable. The women, No, that's not well.

550
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Women there aren't attempting, No, they are. They just shut

551
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Speaker 3: me down all the time. I mean, why would you

552
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Speaker 3: be different?

553
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Speaker 4: Uh?

554
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Speaker 1: What about the Pickings game? I mean he was great,

555
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: but like, you just don't win with that guy.

556
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Well, I think what was so funny too, Mark was

557
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: did you notice at the beginning of the game a

558
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: little discipline handed down from head coach Schottenheimer for the Cowboys.

559
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens had to sit out the

560
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Speaker 2: first drive of the game.

561
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Speaker 3: For the Cowboy that showed them the drive well, you know.

562
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Speaker 2: What, it's more than a coach t ever did to

563
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Speaker 2: George Pickens? What was his what was his discipline?

564
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: Showed up like ten minutes before a game and he

565
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Speaker 1: tried to write out here what.

566
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Speaker 3: Was his discipline?

567
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: He can't run out of the tunnel and hear the

568
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: pop of the crowd like that was his big blow

569
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: to him, like you won't get introduced with the offense.

570
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of shame to what Schottenheimer did.

571
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: The camera was focused and everybody was saying, what the

572
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: hell's going on with Pickens and Lamb, why aren't they playing?

573
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: And then Schttenheimer after the game says, they missed some things.

574
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into any more detail, but

575
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Speaker 2: that's what we decided on Monday to do.

576
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Speaker 3: You were fourteen. I feel I feel awful.

577
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: How why because that's a weird thing to feel bad

578
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: about it? Like Jeffstein, Oh, you didn't know that part

579
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about about. You thought we met probably like

580
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: after college or something like that.

581
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Speaker 3: You met like once she became famous from the show.

582
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well that's the problem is me having to

583
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: stiff farm all these chicks.

584
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: After this, after working on this show. Absolutely that's never

585
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: been a problem for me.

586
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: Well that's not true, because, well, like Chris Jericho said that,

587
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: when I go into strip joints, I show we're a

588
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: baseball captain, says sucker. So I want I have been

589
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: stampeded by strippers, been for all the wrong reasons.

590
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: I think just a giant kneeon sign that says I'm

591
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: your mark, Yeah, something like that.

592
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: No, that was.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, actually I got ah. The bottle shop used

594
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: to be the World Capitol hot waitresses. I saw a

595
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: girl who used to work there at the River Hunts game.

596
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: She's hanging the national anthem. Her name is Liz. She

597
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: was really good at the national anthem. She's still really beautiful.

598
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: But she had red hair. Then I thought it was

599
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: natural red hair, but now it's black and I'm not

600
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Speaker 1: sure what color her hair is for real?

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Speaker 3: You forgot no, No, I mean maybe I don't know

602
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: if it was died now or died down. I see

603
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: what you're saying. She was a cop to shequit. She

604
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: quit being a cop too.

605
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: Now she's works for UPMC and I sings national anthems.

606
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: I guess a cop a hot cop Yep, that'd be

607
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: tough to get pulled over by be a little alarming.

608
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I stumbled into a movie or an

609
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: episode of that seventies show. Remember that's how Kelso was

610
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: in Cop because he saw the hot cop.

611
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: He got pulled over by a hot cop and then

612
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: he saw out a uniform and said, wait, you're an ugo.

613
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: It was the uniform that made you hot. I'm getting old.

614
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: I could maintain my good looks by being a cop.

615
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: And that's who was he dating at that point in

616
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Speaker 2: the show. He had a kid with her, right, who's

617
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: the actress, crazy hot actress.

618
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: Shannon Elizabeth from American Pop Y Great late casting to

619
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Speaker 3: bring her aboard? Yeah she was. She was on for

620
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Speaker 3: two years. I think she was. She was a recurring Yeah. Yeah.

621
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Speaker 1: And you know who her mother was when when Kelso

622
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: met her mother was Morgan Fairchild.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. It was like a latter day Shannon,

624
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: you know, a long time ago? Yes? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where kel she was the valedictorian of

626
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: the class. You know where Kelser knocked her up at?

627
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: Oh? I do know?

628
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: This is in a bathroom somewhere right in the bathroom

629
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Speaker 2: with the Bali hatchet concert.

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Speaker 3: I won Schler Valedictorian nod. She might have won oh

631
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Speaker 3: five ninety X from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center.

632
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: This report, it's sponsored by Joe Ball GMC. It's gotta

633
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: be clouding today with showers developing. Look for a high

634
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: of forty one steady rain tonight with Patchi Fogg overnight

635
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: dropping to thirty six bearable cloudiness.

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Speaker 3: There's a few.

637
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: More twists to the tail when it comes to Sdor Sanders.

638
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: While he was making his NFL debut Sunday, somebody broke

639
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: into his home and stole two hundred K worth of belongings.

640
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: And Jason Wentlock, who who is one of those right

641
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: wing sports guys. And I'm not sure I liked that

642
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: combination anymore than I like left wing sports guys. I

643
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: mean sports and sports leave politics out of it. But

644
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: what Luck made a good point about Shador Sanders, who

645
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: looked totally unprepared when he came into the game Sunday.

646
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And you saw the stats, four out of sixteen, a

647
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: couple of long sacks, a pick, quarterback rating a thirteen

648
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: point five. Sanders has never had to compete for job.

649
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: He's always had the quarterback job handed to him his

650
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: whole career. You know high school, both of his colleges

651
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: got coached by his dad. Why would do you think

652
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: he has to work hard and prepare and he clearly

653
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared.

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00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: Good point made by Whitlock.

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Speaker 1: Tom.

656
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Speaker 3: What do we got today for the trifecta?

657
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: For today's trifecta, Mark, I have a trifecta of college

658
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Speaker 2: football takes for you that I want to throw by you.

659
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: We're getting into the stretch runner of the college football

660
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: season here, only two weeks left. My first take, only

661
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: two weeks left. In the two weeks left, it's the best.

662
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: But then the playoffs too long now my numbers to

663
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: make it. No, they're not gonna make it. They're gonna

664
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Speaker 2: lose the Georgia Tech this week and be eliminated for good.

665
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: Number three my take college football. It feels to me

666
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: like the Heisman Trophy has never meant less than it

667
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: does right now, Like the luster of it has just

668
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: completely gone. And at one point I feel like, at

669
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: its type, market was the greatest individual trophy and maybe

670
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: all of sports to win.

671
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: I haven't cared about it since day wrongly took it

672
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: away from OJ. Number two.

673
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: It's a little weird to me, right now that Notre

674
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Dame is ranked so much higher than Miami and all

675
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: of these polls when they lost to Miami in Week

676
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: one of this season. That just tells me that the

677
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: committee doesn't care about head to head stuff. It's about

678
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: who you lost to.

679
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I saw somewhere a member of the committee said to

680
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: somebody off the record, but got out there without his

681
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: name attached, that we should not even look at the standings.

682
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: We should just pick the teams.

683
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: There should be no guaranteed burst and I hear they're

684
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: thinking about there not being any guaranteed spots based on

685
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: conference champions because they just want the brand names. They

686
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: don't care about finding the best team in college football.

687
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: They just want the brand names to get the ratings,

688
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: to get the crowds, to get the money.

689
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: And this supports that what you heard someone else may

690
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: have heard from a committee member, because there's just no

691
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: reason they should be ranked ahead of a team that

692
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: beat them. There's just no way you can justify it.

693
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: But it's going to happen. Number one, though, I think

694
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: that this is a very chaotic college football season, but

695
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: it's a chaotic race for second place. I think Ohio

696
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: State's just going to run away with this thing. And

697
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: because back to back champs and it could be a

698
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: very boring playoff mark as they just beat teams by

699
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: two touchdowns plus every time.

700
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch it, you watch a little

701
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: bit of it a little bit accidentally.

702
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I usually watched the championship game because a few times

703
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I've happened to be in Vegas when the championship game

704
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: was contested.

705
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: That'd be cool.

706
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like you know, a sports book or a

707
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: big sports bar a place like that. It really is

708
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: like an occasion. Oh with that question, you know where

709
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Vegas is really fun? The first weekend of NCAA March madness.

710
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: I kind of prefer the semi final day before the

711
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: natural national championship game in football, you know you know

712
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: what I mean? You get the two games back to

713
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: back of each other, the weightiest games of the season,

714
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: have a good chance if one of the games is

715
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: a stinker, I get another shot at one being good.

716
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, that might be my favorite day. That'd

717
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: be a goo day to be in Vegas.

718
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: I prefer whatever day they're not playing college football. What

719
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, have you ever thought about how and it

720
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: wasn't always this way Tom. I used to watch Pitt

721
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Penn State. I used to watch every sporting event I

722
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: could to keep up for this show, and now I

723
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: barely watch any sports compared to back then.

724
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Anyway, is it weird that a sports talk.

725
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: Coast is so pointed about what he won't watch because

726
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: it bores the piss out of him?

727
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: No, I think it's refreshingly honest that you say that.

728
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: You're saying, No, I'm very serious about that, and I

729
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: love your take.

730
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: You said, I think it's in your contract.

731
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Do you One of the conditions for getting on Mike

732
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: was to call me refreshingly honest.

733
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I don't mean it. At least twice

734
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: a week, I don't mean it even though if it

735
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: isn't writing.

736
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: And as far as the contract goes, I mean, why

737
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: take a chance?

738
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: And something that you set off the air to me

739
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: so many times, and you said it on the air too,

740
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: is as you've gotten older, you just watch the things

741
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: that you like and the sports that you like. Or

742
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Liverpool and the Penguins and in the NHL in general,

743
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: in soccer and.

744
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: Gen yeah, I watch.

745
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I watch Liverpool and the Penguins first, NHL third behind

746
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: those two Premier League at Coast fourth Chimp, well, Premier

747
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: League Champions League.

748
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Call that soccer, Yeah, all that soccer.

749
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't watch. I don't watch Spain, Germany and Italy

750
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: much unless it's like like the classic er with with Lever,

751
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: with uh with Dortmund and and Munich. But yeah, I

752
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: just like and I never watched college sports at all.

753
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't you know what really turned me off college

754
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: sports though. I think Nardoozi is a blow hard, and

755
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: I think Cape's a blow hard too, And I don't

756
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: think either of him understands where he's at. I think

757
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: Nardoozi thinks he's still in the East Lansing. I think

758
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: he thinks that the program is more important here than

759
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: it is. And Capele's same thing with Dorham. He thinks

760
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: this program at the Pitt Basketball is more important. Like

761
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: he was the duke assistant, right, Yes, yeah, well I

762
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: got it right, dorm see, I remembered. But I just

763
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not interested in the first place. And

764
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: then when you got guys that I don't like coaching

765
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: and you really haven't done.

766
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Much now, it's arrogance without accomplishment, much accomplishment With him,

767
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: I know Nardoozi does have the a SEC.

768
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: Title in his back pocket, but that's as fluky as

769
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: it really. Can you pick it one?

770
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: Now?

771
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like ninth year. So what else?

772
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: Don't I like, you'll dip your tone into the water

773
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: when it's like a big NFL playoff game, like Alan Mahomes,

774
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you'll watch that.

775
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: And if Sunday Night football or a big matchup, I

776
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: watched that, Uh.

777
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: Not the Steelers, Well you have to watch the Steelers.

778
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: You have to watch the Steelers. What else?

779
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll watch the NBA if it's a matchup, I like,

780
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: if I'm flipping the dial, if I'm flipping the dial.

781
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Not appointment team, no appointment TV. Ever.

782
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: You know, I watch more baseball than people would believe

783
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: because I think it's a great game.

784
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: I think the Pirates have ruined it here in Pittsburgh.

785
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: Well, what baseball has always had going for him, too,

786
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: is in those summer nights. I mean there's just nothing

787
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: else on sometimes and like you know what I mean,

788
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: like late July, you just almost inevitably have to watch

789
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: a baseball game.

790
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: I just take the self righteousness know of baseball media

791
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: who think that it's still like America's past time when

792
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: it's way down the list of pastimes, behind the NFL,

793
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: behind third.

794
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: Place TV, behind Netflix.

795
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you include those into it and not

796
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: just sports, Yeah, it's way down the list, cooking shows.

797
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: NBA's probably passed it two, don't you think it's probably

798
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: closer than I'm giving a credit to.

799
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: And MLB maybe have gained some ground, obs.

800
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: Enough to remember when the three big sports, and I've

801
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: said this often last show, the three big sports were

802
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: in order of baseball, boxing, horse racing, and nothing else

803
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: mattered in a little bit, including the NFL until the

804
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: name of Super Bowl, until Super Bowl three, the AFL

805
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: NFL merger, Name It Guaranteed Victory. TV became a big

806
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: thing for football. Name it was America's hero name. It

807
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit. Never mind what a great quarterback

808
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: he was at Bama and with the Jets, he doesn't

809
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: get enough credit for bringing football to the absolute pinnacle

810
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: of American of American perception.

811
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: I would argue now that there's really only one big

812
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: sport in America, and it is football, because you know,

813
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: all the other sports just get blown out of the

814
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: water completely. You look at the networks like ratings for

815
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: the most watched shows every year, including other shows, not

816
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: just sports. It's always the NFL baseball.

817
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: In ratings. Did you know there's gonna be pickleball movie?

818
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: No?

819
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: Is it gonna be funny?

820
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: Though?

821
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: I think I do a slant. Well, that's a good start.

822
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: You know what The premise is A retired tennis champion

823
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: comes back to play pickleball to something like save the club,

824
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: like the tennis club from being you.

825
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: Know, shut down. This sounds good. It sounds like dodgeball

826
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: with pickleball. All right.

827
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: If it's rated R we get Ben Stiller a couple

828
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: other great characters in there. I know there's a role

829
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: for Vince Vaughn in there somewhere. I just know it.

830
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: Jim Florentine when he was in town, he has a

831
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: pickleball riff in his routine. He burries pickleball and I

832
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: no offense to gym. My punchlines were better than his.

833
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: Like my punchline that pickleball is table tennis if they're

834
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: standing on the table. He's using that when moving forward.

835
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: I can tell you that one oh five ninety x