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Here he is the Pope of the pack, 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: the big ten baron our friend from the San Jose 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: Mercury News to one and only John Wilner. 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Johnny, how are you man? Hey guys, Oh, we're so close, 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: so close. 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't happen for twenty minutes. 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: Jo on your phone sounds like remember those old Jiffy 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: pops you put on the oven back in the day, 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: And then that's what your phone will so your phone 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: sounds like right now, can. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 5: You talry about that? I can hear you guys perfectly, Okay, Jackson. 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: It could be an US problem. It could be an 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: US problem on our end. Well, John's with us. John, 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: We're doing good. Thanks for asking. By the way, So 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: before we dive into everything happening on the field, man, 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: there's a lot happening off the field and this Big 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: Ten equity saga, what's the latest? And it seems like 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: there's going to be some problems with this with a 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: few of the member institutions of the Big Ten. 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: What's the latest there? 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 6: Well, the latest go through with this deal even if 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 6: USC and Michigan are not on board, and that would 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 6: create an unprecedented situation in which sixteen schools would be 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 6: playing by one set of rules and two would be 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 6: playing by another. And part of the deal forgetting this 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: money is that you have to extend the grant of 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 6: rights till twenty forty six. Sixteen teams schools would be 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 6: to the Big Ten until twenty forty six. 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: Michigan and USC would. 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 6: Only be members until twenty thirty six and then they 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 6: would be free agents. And the thing is if USC 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 6: and Michigan are free agents. They're gonna have plenty of 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: offers in twenty thirty six, right, I mean, if the 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 6: Big Ten things that they are, they're going to try 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 6: to back these two schools into a corner, I think 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 6: they're mistaken because they're gonna have. 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 5: Tons of options. 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: John, John, let me just backtrack for a second. Sorry, 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: And I should have done this from the start. Can 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: we just explain this to people that don't know what's 54 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: going on? Reset, give us like thirty forty five seconds 55 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 3: on what exactly this story is all about, and dumb 56 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: it down for people like me? 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: Please? 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: Sure? So the Big Ten is looking into a private 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 6: capital infusion of two point four billion dollars, so that 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 6: money would be dispersed to the schools on an uneven 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 6: basis up front based on tiers. Washington be on the 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 6: third tier of revenue. Washington would get one hundred and 63 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 6: ten million, Oregon and USC would get one hundred and 64 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 6: fifty million, Penn State, Ohio, State Michigan get one hundred 65 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 6: and ninety million. The deal would also require the schools 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 6: to sign a twenty year grand of rights, basically locking 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 6: them together for twenty years, so it would end in 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 6: ey chance of a super league. The deal also creates 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 6: some they call Big Ten Enterprises, which would become a 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 6: for profit commercial arm of the conference to help generate, 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: you know, as much revenue as possible. Those are kind 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 6: of the main three aspects of it. But the biggest 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 6: deal is they would bind the schools for twenty years 74 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 6: together in the Big Ten, a lot of them, you know, Minnesota, Purdue. 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 6: They're looking for security. They don't want to have State 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 6: in Michigan going off and forming a super league, so 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 6: that's why they're in favor of this. But if Michigan, 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 6: Ohio and USC don't sign on to it and they 79 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 6: go through with it anyhow, two of the biggest brands 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: in the conference would be free agents halfway through the 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 6: twenty year deal. 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 7: So what's better for the conference as far as parody goes. 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 7: Do we want to see a more NFL type thing 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 7: where there's not a lot of difference between the third 85 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 7: fourth best team and the Big Ten and the fourteenth 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 7: fifteenth best team in the Big Ten? 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: Or is what's better for the Big Ten. 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 7: To have two or three superpowers in the conference every 89 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 7: year and a lot of teams that stink? 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of what they got this year, right, 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 6: and that's what it is every year. I mean, Michigan 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 6: and Ohio State and Penn State, to you know, over 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 6: the course of time, are the three dominant programs. The 94 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: thing is, I think this deal would actually create more 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: of a top heavy league because not only would Ohio State, Michigan, 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 6: and Penn State get more upfront cash, They're also going 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 6: to create a unequal revenue model for the annual payouts 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: and those schools would be on top of that as well. Well. 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: John Wilner's with us on the radio show. 100 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: The other big story happening off the field is what's 101 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: going on with UCLA and the Rolls Bowl. So, I mean, 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: I guess just explain this again to me like I'm 103 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: a more on which I am, so it's going to 104 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: be easy. So basically, you dub is playing at the 105 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: Rolls Bowl next Saturday versus UCLA. Are you telling me 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: this is the potential final time that you doub will 107 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: ever play a regular season game at the Rose Bowl 108 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: next Saturday? 109 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: I think that is possible. 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 6: Yes, UCLA is moving forward as best as it can 111 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 6: to try to deal with Sofi Stadium to move the 112 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: home games to so Fi. 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: I happen to believe a. 114 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 6: Lot of this is still leverage now that they want 115 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: to get a better term for their lease on the 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 6: Rose Bowl and they're using going to Sofi Stadium as 117 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: the leverage. The Rose Bowl has sued UCLA to stop 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 6: the move, and we'll see. I think it's a very 119 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: interesting deal. I think it is completely misguided on the 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: Bruins side to think that a lot more people are 121 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 6: going to go to Sofi Stadium then we go to 122 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 6: the Rose Bowl. That's preposterous. Part of the appeal is 123 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 6: all the luxury suites at Sofi Stadium, But then again, 124 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 6: how many UCLA fans are going to get those. 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 5: Take those luxury seats. 126 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 6: I think it would be a terrible deal for UCLA, 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 6: And it's so obviously a terrible deal that I think 128 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 6: it's a negotiating ploy. 129 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 7: John disaster struck at Camp Randall for the Huskies against Wisconsin. 130 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 7: I mean, it was unbelievable, the worst loss since the 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 7: Montana game. Why were the Huskies not able to get 132 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 7: over the top when they have before? Every single year 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 7: the Huskies face a team and almost lose. We saw 134 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 7: it at Arizona State the year they went to the 135 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 7: college football playoffs. Why weren't they able to get over 136 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 7: the top this time? 137 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: That was atrocious. 138 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 6: I thought that the biggest problem is their offense, and 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 6: it's not just It wasn't just the Wisconsin game. 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 5: That's just the latest example. 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 6: I went back and looked Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin the 142 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 6: second halves of those three games. Washington has scored three 143 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 6: points three points in six quarters, so that is and 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: they haven't played well on the road in general under 145 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: jedfish Right, They've got what one win at Maryland, right, 146 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 6: come back, come back win, and Maryland. 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: Clearly is not any good. 148 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 6: Their only win of the season is over Wisconsin in 149 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 6: Big Ten play. So a lot of it is they 150 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 6: are not very good on offense when they're on the 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 6: road and they're facing a decent defense. They got to 152 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: figure that out because you know, I know there were 153 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 6: some injuries, but to me, those injuries do not account 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 6: for the fact that you lose to Wisconsin, which is awful. 155 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 6: No offense, I mean it was that was really bad. 156 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 5: That was shockingly bad. From the Austin. 157 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: Yes, John, I'm sorry to do this to you, but 158 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: I want to go back to the UCLA story. I 159 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: appolgejys I should have followed up on that from the beginning. 160 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: But there's two things. I want to just go back 161 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: to that for a quick second. 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: You said it's a negotiating ploy by UCLA either A 163 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: what to get a better deal from the Rose Bull 164 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: And do you think it's possible, Okay, do you think 165 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: it's possible that UCLA, even if they do move to Sofi, 166 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: would do that short term and the long term plan 167 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: is eventually to build a smaller stadium on campus or 168 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: do you see them actually moving to Sofi and stay 169 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: in there forever. 170 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 6: I do not believe on campus stadium is viable. You know, 171 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: if you know UCLA's campus, it's there's not a lot 172 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 6: of room they would make the in theory, what they 173 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 6: do is they take Drake Stadium, which is the track 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: and field on the northwest corner borders Wilshire and turn 175 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 6: that into a on campus stadium of like forty thousand. 176 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: Here's the problem. All those rich folks. 177 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 6: In bel Air across Wilshire Boulevard would go Nanas that 178 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 6: is an incredibly powerful neighborhood association with immense amount of resources, 179 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 6: and in my opinion, there is no way they will 180 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 6: let you cla do that on campus team. I think 181 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 6: if they move to Sofi, then they moved to Sofi 182 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 6: and that's it for a long time. 183 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: God, that's amazing, unbelievable. 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: Well, John Wilner is with us, and John's go back 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: to the Huskies again. So you know, Dick mentioned it 186 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: disaster striking in Madison over the weekend. You gave us 187 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the home road problems. They've got it. 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: It was pathetic in a lot of ways by U 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: dub on Saturday. 190 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: But where does that leave Jedfish? 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 5: Right? 192 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: Because that seems to be the big conversation right now 193 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: amongst Husky fans, like where does he go? Where does 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: udub go from him? And he very well may want 195 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: to move on and go somewhere, but losing to Wisconsin 196 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: doesn't help him to do that. So I guess my 197 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: question is how much do you believe Jedfish wants to 198 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: exit Washington. There's been a lot of report from people 199 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: saying they believe that. And then number two, if he 200 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: does want to exit, can he exit? 201 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: Well? 202 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 6: I have never thought he was a lot long termer 203 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: in Seattle in the first place. 204 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 5: I mean to me, it was he viewed. 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 6: It as a stepping stone job to get somewhere else 206 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 6: NFL Florida his alma mater, or a premier what he've 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 6: uses a better gig in the big ten or sec. 208 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: I thought he was a short timer all along, which 209 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 6: was part of the risk in hiring him in the 210 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 6: first place. So to me, I mean, he's got his 211 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 6: eyes out, there's no question he's looking around. 212 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 5: Now. 213 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 6: This doesn't help his market value, but I also don't 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 6: think it really hurts. I mean, you know, if UCLA 215 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 6: really wants him, then losing the Wisconsin is not Washington. 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 6: Losing Wisconsin's not going to prevent the Bruins from going 217 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 6: after him, for instance. What it does is it hurts 218 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: him in the market for jobs that he doesn't have 219 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 6: any kind of personal ties to, whether it's Florida or UCLA. 220 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 6: But you know, Washington's need to expect this was going 221 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 6: to happen the moment they hired him, which again was 222 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 6: part of the risk in hiring him. And then they 223 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 6: have his buyoss not very big, so almost any school 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: is going to be able to afford him if they 225 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 6: want him. 226 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 7: So what do you make of his comments? A softy 227 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 7: asked him this week. Other people have asked him this week. 228 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: He says he loves his job here. 229 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 7: I mean, do you believe anything that come out of 230 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 7: coaches mouths when they answer those type of questions, or 231 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 7: is Jedfish in a little bit of a different bucket 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 7: than some other coaches because he has traveled so many. 233 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: Places in such a short time. 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 5: I believe very few of them. 235 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 6: There are a few instances where I do believe them, 236 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 6: like Kenny Dillingham at ASU. He grew up in Phoenix, 237 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 6: he went to ASU, he lives next door to his sister. 238 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 6: He just signed a contract that is based on longevity 239 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 6: and security. I believe Kenny Dillyham is standing at issue 240 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 6: for a long time, but there's very few cases like that. 241 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 6: I don't believe Jetfish anything he says, why would you? 242 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 6: But I also don't believe most of them. 243 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 5: I mean, Fish said that same kind of. 244 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 6: Stuff when when he was at Arizona and I saw 245 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: his comment was that yesterday about the lists, like those 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 6: people who make the list don't know anything. You know 247 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 6: who makes those lists, the agents, they're who make the list. 248 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 6: And his agent is leaking his name to reporters to 249 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 6: drum up interest so I kind of laughed when he 250 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 6: said the lists are are, you know, basically irrelevant because 251 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 6: they're coming from agents. 252 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, what do you think happens? 253 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: Honestly, if you had to put any significant amount of 254 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: money on this thing, for what Jetfish does when the 255 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: year is over, And obviously it depends in a lot 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: of ways on how this year goes for Washington. Right, 257 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: if thinking rally and finish with ten wins and beat 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: Oregon and you win a ballgame, his resume looks a 259 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: lot stronger. 260 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: So what does your gut tell you Jed Fish is 261 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: doing next year? 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 6: Well, my gut tells me that they're going to lose 263 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 6: to the Ducks and that they may also lose to UCLA. 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know why you trust them on 265 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: the road. They can't win on the road, So I 266 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 6: think they go there's a real chance they could lose 267 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 6: to UCLA. I think the only viable place. I really 268 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 6: don't think Florida is an option. Was what my bet 269 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: tells me. And so it's pretty much Ucla or staying 270 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: in Seattle. If I were betting, I would probably bet 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: he's back in Seattle for next season. 272 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 7: If they were to lose those two games and even 273 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 7: win a bowl game and finish eight and five. I mean, 274 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 7: is that a step in the right direction just because 275 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 7: it's two wins more than last year, or is that 276 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 7: a massive disappointment? 277 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 6: I would say, I mean for Husky fans, I would 278 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 6: think would be viewed as a big disappointment given where 279 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 6: they were. 280 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: If you had told me before. 281 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 6: The season, they're going to go seven and five and 282 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: then win a bowl game, I'd have thought, Yeah, I 283 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: could see that. That might have been slightly on the 284 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 6: low end of what I I would have expected, but 285 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: it was certainly a reasonable range. But if you're a 286 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: Washington fan and you watched them play so well in 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: so many games early and that they're six and two 288 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: and they're thinking about maybe sneaking into the playoff, and 289 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: then they finish eight and five, it'd be a pretty 290 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 6: big disappointment. 291 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: I would think, yeah. 292 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess in that context, I could see it. 293 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Do we allow ourselves to look at it? John, And 294 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know. Maybe this is just you know, 295 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: one perspective, right, I'm looking at it through one lens 296 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: and you're looking at it through a different lens, and 297 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: that is the lens of what he took over a 298 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: year and a half ago when the roster got blown 299 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: to bits. Was it really realistic in February of twenty 300 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: twenty four that in year two he was going to 301 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: make the College Football Playoff? And if I would have 302 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: told you in February of twenty four that in year 303 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: two he's going to be nine and three and their 304 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: second year in the Big Ten after the roster got 305 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: blown to Kingdom, come, would you have looked at that 306 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: at that point as real progress. 307 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? I thought all. 308 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 6: Along if if that would be real progres and if 309 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: I were a Washington fan and they finished date in five, 310 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,359 Speaker 6: I think, you know what that's I'm a little disappointed, 311 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 6: but I can see the trajectory here, and I'm encouraged 312 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: about what I've seen, and I'm ready for next year. 313 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 6: And then next year they need to be winning nine 314 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 6: or ten games. But I don't really like, as an 315 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 6: objective observer, I don't really see that there's a big 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: problem with where things are going. 317 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 5: Even if they do lose two more, I think on the. 318 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,119 Speaker 6: Against the broad canvas of what you could have reasonably expected, 319 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 6: they're doing fine. 320 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 7: John Softy has long asked for a sarcasm font on Twitter. 321 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 7: We have not gotten one yet, So I want to 322 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 7: know if this tweet by John Wilner last night deserves 323 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 7: the sarcasm font or if it's authentic, said, the AP 324 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 7: Top twenty five is so meaningless that this platform has 325 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 7: been bombarded all season with complaints about the Bowl. Yep, 326 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 7: it's totally irrelevant. Nobody cares. Why does the AP even bother? 327 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 7: Do we need a sarcasm font on that? Or is 328 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 7: that authentic? 329 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 6: You need sarcasm in the biggest, boldest funt you could find. 330 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 6: That's I'm getting a kick out of it because there's 331 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 6: been so many complaints about the AP poll on Twitter 332 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: all season about how it's meaningless. Well, then why is 333 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 6: everybody talking about it every week and complaining about it? 334 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 6: Obviously it's not meaningless, and I can assure. 335 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: You that there's no chance. 336 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: The AP is going to get rid of the poll 337 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 6: and it sees how much reaction it's getting. 338 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 8: No. 339 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I can answer all those questions 340 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: for you if you'd like. 341 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I know what you're in. 342 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: I have responses every single one. First of all, the 343 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: reason why people talk about the AP pole the way 344 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: they do is because up until last week, it. 345 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: Was the only poll. 346 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: All Right, nobody looks at the coaches poll because the 347 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: coaches poll is sid's voting, and coaches have no idea 348 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: what the hell they're doing. So up until last week, 349 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: until last Tuesday, it was the only poll we had. 350 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: It's less relevant now for conversation because the CFP is 351 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: now officially out for the second consecutive week. Came out, 352 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: as Dick said about a half an hour ago. However, 353 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: I think the reason why people threw a fit about 354 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: this week's eight peo pole is because the Oregon Ducks 355 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: went to Iowa beat Iowa Ole miss host of Citadel, 356 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: and these two teams fliped. 357 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: Spots in the AP. How does that happen? And how 358 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: do you sleep at. 359 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: Night working for an organization like that? 360 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: That's That's one I can't explain. 361 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: I moved to Oregon out for sure, I. 362 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: Cannot explain a lot of the stuff that happens in 363 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 6: the a people I can't explain. And there's certainly I 364 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 6: get plenty of criticism for some of my votes, Like 365 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 6: right now, I'm getting criticized for where I have textas 366 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 6: relative to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma and you know what, that's 367 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 6: I have my own way of doing it, and I 368 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 6: have to think that losing the Florida is a terrible 369 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 6: loss for Texas. 370 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 9: Uh. 371 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 6: But you know, everybody has their own unique way of 372 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 6: doing it, and there's going to be discrepancies and quirks 373 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: in their polls. The one thing that is tough for 374 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: me to swallow is when there's ballots that are based 375 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: on people not being in voters not being informed of 376 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 6: the results. That bothers me as a voter. 377 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 7: John Should a team be able to change a player's 378 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 7: number and disguise him as a punter like USC did 379 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 7: with Sam Hewart on Friday? 380 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 6: What I want to know is why didn't USC save 381 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 6: that for the Oregon game? 382 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: That was a good point point. 383 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: Why would you use it when you're in a game 384 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 6: you're gonna win. So the bottom line. 385 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: On that is it was a penalty. 386 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 6: What should have happened is the Trujan should have been 387 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: assessed a fifteen yard penalty when their actual punter came 388 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 6: out on the field later in the game, because you 389 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: can't have two players that play the same position were 390 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 6: the same number. So Sam Hewart comes out there in 391 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 6: eighty and they do the fake punt, fine, but the 392 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 6: moment the other punter comes out wearing eighty, that's when 393 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 6: the violation occurs. 394 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 5: So that is technically that's the rule. They're going to 395 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: get this. 396 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: I'm a little surprised there wasn't like a mid week change, 397 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 6: you know how. Sometimes they'll do a midwek change and 398 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 6: then caa rules because of a loophole, like they did 399 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 6: last year. I think with Oregon and Ohio State and 400 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 6: the eleven or the twelve man on the field, they'll 401 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 6: get that cleared up, I think over the off season. 402 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: But it was a violation by USA presee, cheating Trojan 403 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: bastards is what they are, and they got Well, yes. 404 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 6: You could say that, but I'm going to get back 405 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 6: to our first topic. UFC is trying to save the 406 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 6: Big ten from a gigantic mistake, and if they succeed 407 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 6: at Washington, Pens should be thanking the Trojans right because 408 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 6: Washington is one of those schools that I just I'm 409 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 6: having a hard time wrapping my arms around what they're doing. 410 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: Interesting. All right, well we'll dig more into that and 411 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: get back to you next week. All right, you're on fire, 412 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: my friend. 413 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: You got it. 414 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: Again, Iowa plus the points against the Ducks seven and 415 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: four on the air, three and one your last four 416 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: Willner's winner. The Windalorean has again the proper path. He 417 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: is walking the straight line, and he is on his 418 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: way to another winning season. 419 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: Let's not veer off. Okay, let's not slip up. 420 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: Let's not be convinced to go the wrong way when 421 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 3: the right way has been working so well, John, what 422 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: do you got this week for us? 423 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 6: I'm actually I'm going with the Huskies because they're good 424 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 6: at home, and they're very good at home against bad 425 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 6: teams and produce bad and the last line I saw. 426 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 5: Was sixteen and a half. That's still okay? 427 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I mean, Illinois is way better 428 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 6: than Perdue. 429 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: You could argue Rutgers. 430 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: Is even better than Perdue. And the Huskies stumped the vote. 431 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 6: So to me, this is like thirty eight ten or 432 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 6: something like that. 433 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: I wonder if this is one of those games where 435 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: if the Huskies don't win big, we're gonna have a 436 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: problem on yeah Monday, right, Yeah, all right, John, great stuff, 437 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: enjoy the weekend, and we'll talk next Tuesday. 438 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 6: Man, thanks a lot, guys, All right, John. 439 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: Wilder likes you dub minus the points against Perdudo, We'll 440 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: get to break a lot more to get to Husky 441 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: basketball tough fought game Sunday Night. 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I'm still kind of floored by that 469 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: stephen A Smith clip that we played in Fun with 470 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 3: Audio earlier on today when Mina Chimes went on ESPN 471 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: and was hyping the Seahawks. He's not even tuning in 472 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: right now. He's doing something back there. Because I'd like 473 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: to get this clip again. By the way, for those 474 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: that missed it, the steven A clip number two on 475 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: Fun with Audio, can you grab that again? 476 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: Thanks? See you told me about this in the commercial break. 477 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: I would have been able to have. 478 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: Well, if you were listening to what was happening on 479 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: Running Crack and you want to be mad at a 480 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: cracking one, right, not mad. 481 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: At anybody, Hey, who's mad? I'm just telling you get 482 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: that clip for me, Pale. I still can't believe. 483 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: That people. 484 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to equate this to something that 485 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: we've said on the air, Dick right, like an example 486 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: of a narrative that was formed about an athlete or 487 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: a coach that was based on one game. Yeah, because 488 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold has this choker narrative that people like Steven A. 489 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: Smith have slapped on him after one playoff game. And 490 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: when I asked, you, guys during fun with Attio at 491 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: three forty five, how many playoff games has he played? 492 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: I thought, am I missing something? Maybe it was like 493 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: three or four? No, just the one. 494 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: And that came last year, not even a year ago. 495 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: So this is what Stephen A said to me at 496 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: times on ESPN the other day. 497 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 11: Does anyone here know what Mike McDonald's record is on 498 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 11: the road with this team? 499 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 6: They didn't. 500 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 11: They didn't, one, guys. So when we talk about the 501 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 11: road going through the Philadelphia Eagles, you know who's not 502 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 11: scared of doing that? This Seattle Seahawk because they have 503 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 11: been going on the row dominating teams. 504 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 12: Well, hold on, hold, don Mena comes let's pump the 505 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 12: brakes for just a second. McDonald coach McDonald can feel 506 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 12: that way all he wants to. He ain't coach Sam 507 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 12: Donald in the playoffs. I he ain't coach Sam Donald playoff. 508 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: So that's wait, let's wait and see. 509 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say. 510 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: It's incredible because I don't want to be just a 511 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: total homer and defend Sam Donald to a tee and 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: have what are the Seahawks colors green and silver? Whatever 513 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: the hell they are? Green blue, silver colored glasses on? Like, 514 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: I want to see some logic in that, right, I 515 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: want to see some logic in painting a guy as 516 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: a playoff choker, which Stephen A basically just did after 517 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: one playoff game. 518 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: What am I missing here? 519 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 7: It is to be expected that Sam Donald struggled in 520 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 7: that playoff game. He was playing an excellent defense and 521 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: a quarterback that had won a. 522 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: Super Bowl before. You know who's gonna be the Sam 523 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: Donald this year? 524 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: I'm telling you right now, Jackson, you can record this 525 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 7: on November the eleventh, all right, Drake May and the 526 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 7: New England Patriots are probably if you look at their record, 527 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 7: they could go like thirteen and four. They play nobody, nobody, 528 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 7: Right the rest of the year, they are going to 529 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 7: be like Minnesota, and they are going to go to 530 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 7: the playoffs and they will face in the divisional round 531 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 7: like a Kansas City Chiefs or a Baltimore Ravens, and 532 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 7: Drake May will look terrible and everybody will say, oh, 533 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 7: look he choked in the playoffs. No, he's a young 534 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 7: quarterback that hadn't never started in the playoffs, just like 535 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: Sam Donald was a twenty six year old quarterback that 536 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 7: had never started in the playoffs. 537 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: Again, I'm just I'm looking for an analogy here, and 538 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm struggling to. 539 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 7: Find out to find a history by behind one game, 540 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 7: Like if there was a I don't know, Let's say 541 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 7: there's a rookie NBA player Kevin Durant, right, two thousand 542 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 7: and eight, Okay, Sonics make the playoffs and. 543 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: He struggles and they lose, and over the offseason, Oh man, 544 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: you haven't seen what Durant does in the playoffs. 545 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: Man, he must have played a lot. 546 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: No, just the one series, I mean, just right, like 547 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: it's it just defies logic. And again, I guess, I 548 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 3: guess maybe people are just kind of waiting for him 549 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: to fall apart because they can't believe the turnaround and 550 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: they don't believe it's true. And he's not the only one. 551 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: By the way, he was on with Jackson Bevans today 552 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: on his podcast. He was on with us two weeks ago, 553 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: right with you and me, and he said, he's great, 554 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: but I want to see what happens come playoff time. 555 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: And hey, look, in the end, all quarterbacks are judged 556 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: by what they do in the postseason. 557 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: I get that all guys are judged. 558 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: If they play on really good regular season teams, they 559 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: will be eventually judged on what they do come playoff time. 560 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: And I think that's fair. And Sam Darnold, we may 561 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: Dick be talking in two months from now. Who knows 562 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: about a guy that can't get it done come playoff time. 563 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: The more playoff games he plays and the more playoff 564 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: games he struggles in, the more that vrative becomes appropriate. 565 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: I just don't think it's appropriate now after four quarters. 566 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: The only I agree with you on that. 567 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 7: The only guy I can think of that I remember 568 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 7: got hammered pretty good after his first playoff game was 569 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson. He had an amazing season and remember they 570 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 7: played the Chargers in his first ever playoff game, and 571 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 7: he was bad. He completed forty eight percent of his passes, 572 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 7: he had a passer rating of seventy eight. He had 573 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 7: a QBR of eleven in that game. 574 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: And people say. 575 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 7: That's team Lamar Jackson can win games in the regular season, 576 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 7: but he's not a playoff quarterback. And now, hey, to 577 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 7: their defense, Lamar Jackson doesn't won a lot of games playoff. 578 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: It took some time to actually have that narrative bear 579 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: out and right, and it's probably fair, but you're trying. 580 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: To But you asked, do I have a cop of 581 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 7: somebody that got killed after one playoff game? I do 582 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 7: remember people saying Lamar Jackson after one game, Yeah, doesn't 583 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 7: have the type of game that fits in the playoffs. 584 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: Well, again, I first of all, the guy wasn't even 585 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: really supposed to be there a year ago. What he did, 586 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 3: the only reason why they were there to begin with 587 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: was in a lot of ways because of him. Right 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: the year that Darnald had a year ago, Like, do 589 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: they go fourteen to three without Sam Darnaldo, who was 590 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: their backup quarterback last year because McCarthy was hurt and 591 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: Carson wentz. I don't think was there yet who was 592 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: the number two guy in Minnesota last season? 593 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Looked that up for me if I will. 594 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 3: But that's the point is that they were only there 595 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways because of Sam Darnald and 596 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: the year that he had. 597 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: So I am totally willing. 598 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: To let Donald's career play out, especially in January, Dick 599 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: and see what he does come playoff time. 600 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: What I'm not willing to do yet, Nick Mullens. 601 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: Nick Mullens, what I'm not willing to do yet after 602 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: one playoff game is paint him as a playoff choker. 603 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: And I may and we may be painting him as 604 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: a playoff choker totally in a year two years from now. 605 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: If he keeps making the postseason, the Hawks keep getting 606 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: them to the playoffs, and he keeps falling apart come 607 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: playoff time, then yeah, at that point, then yes, the 608 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: label is totally fair. 609 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: But in no way, shape or form do I believe 610 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: it's fair right now. 611 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 7: N Let's say Sam Donald, we go to the playoffs 612 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 7: and Sam Donald has the exact same game that he 613 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 7: had against San Francisco in the first game of the season. 614 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you know you're. 615 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: Sixteen to twenty three seventy percent, but didn't have a touchdown, 616 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 7: didn't have an interception. 617 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: They lose seventeen to thirteen. Is that a playoff choke? 618 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: Or is that Sam. 619 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 7: Donald going up against the good defense and getting held down. 620 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: I mean to me, it's hard to answer those questions, right, 621 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: Like we always say, how are you gonna feel in 622 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: two months from now? 623 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 624 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: Ask me in two months. I have no idea. Let's 625 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 3: talk context. What kind of team are they playing? How 626 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: good are they defensively? 627 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: Right? 628 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: All that stuff is what you're talking about. 629 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: So like, if they play I'm just looking at the 630 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: top defensive teams right now in the NFC. 631 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: Like the Rams this week, right, let's go. 632 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Let's go Rams, Let's go if they play in the Packers, 633 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: if they play Philadelphia, a team like that, and he 634 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: puts up those kinds of numbers and they have a 635 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: hard time running the ball, and guys are having a 636 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: hard time getting open. It's a slug fest, a low 637 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: scoring game. I think in the end, all he's got 638 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: to do is win. To be totally honest with you, 639 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: I don't give a damn what they look like in 640 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: the postseason. 641 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Just win. 642 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: If you're talking about your expectations are Hey, if we 643 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: play the Rams in the playoffs, or we play the 644 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: Packers in the playoffs, or the Eagles in the playoffs, 645 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: or even let's say the Lions in the playoffs, see 646 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: and the Seahawks win. But Sam Darnold looks like ass. 647 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: That he's terrible. 648 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: That's just stupid. 649 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: I mean, most quarterbacks look like ass against those teams. 650 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: Football is survive in advance in the postseason, just like 651 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: it was for the Mariners. Man, nobody cared just win games. 652 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 653 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like there is a short 654 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: fuse that a lot of people have out there, including 655 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: a lot of in the national media. You just heard 656 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: a clip right there, right from Steven Ay that are 657 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: waiting for this guy to go to the playoffs, crap 658 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: his pants and for them to say, I told you, sir, 659 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: it's coming. Trust me, we're gonna break. 660 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Demon. 661 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: William's gonna hear from him in the six pm checking 662 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: on the Dogs, football and basketball. Baby Next on ninety 663 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: three three KJRFM. 664 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 9: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 665 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 9: brought to you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make 666 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 9: it at Duke's Night tonight. 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You heard the take from 675 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: the Husky Hawks Greg Lewis Mario Bailey says, there is 676 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing the Huskies can do in this game to 677 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: make you feel any better about what happens Saturday versus Wisconsin. 678 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot they can't do to make 679 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: you feel worse about what happened against Wisconsin. Like, do 680 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: you like the fact that they're playing Purdue this weekend 681 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: or do you almost wish they were playing somebody else 682 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: of significant so maybe you could regain a little bit 683 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: of what was lost last I. 684 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 7: Absolutely think that I would rather be playing a usc An, Iowa, 685 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 7: somebody that's got some cachet somebody's got a number. 686 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: By their name because I finished, because I think they would. 687 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 7: Win that game, coming on a game like that at home, 688 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 7: the way they play at home, I think they would 689 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 7: win a game like that. 690 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: Well, I guess my question is this, what is First 691 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: of all, we know what's left to play for, and 692 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: that is to significantly improve your win loss record versus 693 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: last year. 694 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Right, that's it. Right, we're talking. 695 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: About beating Oregon great down the road, great, but winning 696 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: nine games, winning ten games I still think would mark 697 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: a lot of progress for this football team considering where 698 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: they were in February of twenty twenty four. 699 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: But are we looking for an identity? 700 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: Are we looking at a bunch of guys that are 701 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: coming back next year? This is where I struggle, guys 702 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: with this is that in years past, which means like 703 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: three years ago, we would look at a team like 704 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: this and say, oh man, they really got something clicking 705 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: with Roebuck and Vines Bright and Demon Williams and that 706 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: threesome there, and this auDA Mohammed or Jordan Washington or 707 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: that line's gonna come back next year. We could always 708 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 3: look ahead in college football always, and we could always 709 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: say they had a rough year record, wisement man. 710 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: There's some pieces that are guaranteed. 711 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: To come back and I can't do that. 712 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: Now, you can't do that exactly right, So how do 713 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 2: we approach this? 714 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: I I just can't get out of my mind what 715 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 7: Dixon told me in the car today where he just. 716 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: Said it is this something he wants on the air 717 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: or was that between the father and son? 718 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: Might have been between father and son, but it's his 719 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: voice sound like this anymore? I mean it, but it 720 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: was very pertinent. Quote. 721 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 7: Well, they really have nothing to play for anymore, right, 722 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 7: And I feel that that Dixon represents ninety percent of 723 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 7: Husky names. 724 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: Well, let's get some text. I have nothing to play. 725 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: How you feel is that if you're not playing for 726 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: the CFP, that there's nothing left to play for. 727 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 13: So when I was a kid, I would play those 728 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 13: NCAA Football EA Sports video games, and I would always 729 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 13: do the franchise mode and playing with the Huskies, And 730 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 13: when I lost either the second or third game of 731 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 13: a given season the franchise mode, I would just simulate 732 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 13: the rest of the year because I knew, well, I'm 733 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 13: not going to be in the BCS National Championship Game 734 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 13: this year. 735 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 2: Is lost. 736 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 13: I'm just gonna fa I don't care about the other bowls. 737 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 13: I'm just gonna simulate the whole thing and then go 738 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 13: to next year. 739 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 4: Right now, couldn't you couldn't you sim the rest of 740 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 4: the season. 741 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 13: And probably it's weird because looking back, I'm like, what 742 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 13: an idiotic little kid. But at the same time, I'm 743 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 13: a Husky fan and right now I'm like, cool, We're 744 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 13: going to be in a nonsense bowl game. 745 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: I don't maybe we getting a good one. 746 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: But see, here's the difference though, Like even even at 747 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: some of the like take some of the Seahawks seasons 748 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: where they were seven and nine under Pete Carroll or 749 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: the Mariners where they fell short, we could go back 750 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: and say, oh yeah, but look at this court. It's 751 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: a good difference the right look at the court. They're 752 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: all coming back. We can go to spring training or 753 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: go to training camp and say that we know who 754 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 3: the left tackle is, we know who the starting catcher is. 755 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: You can't do that in college football. So if you're 756 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 3: not playing for anything now, it's like it's over. Yes, 757 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,479 Speaker 3: I mean the rivalry with the Ducks is still there, 758 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: and yeah, winning eight or nine games, ten games would 759 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: be nice. But if you're not playing for the CFP 760 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: and you can't guarantee that everyone's back next season, I 761 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: get it, and I get it. I think it's more 762 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: of a problem now than ever. You say to yourself 763 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: the Perdue game, I'm concerned about the crowd on Saturday. Oh, 764 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: I think it's concerned four o'clock kickoff coming off that loss. 765 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: Cfp's done. 766 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 7: I think it's the one thing, the one thing really 767 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 7: on and it's terrible. But the one thing we have 768 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 7: to look forward to is potentially being a spoiler. Let's 769 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 7: have USC heap Oregon. So if they come here and lose, 770 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 7: we have knocked him. That would that would feed my 771 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 7: soul a little bit if we were the. 772 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: Team that knocked him out of the CFP in the 773 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: last game of the season. 774 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: I think that's a good way to put it. Man, 775 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 3: is there anything that can feed your soul as a Husky? 776 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: Is there anything that can feed your soul as a 777 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 3: Husky football fan right now? Because I can't guarantee everyone's 778 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: coming back. You're not playing for the College Football Playoff, 779 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 3: don't know if the coach is coming back. I don't 780 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 3: know if the coach is going to return. 781 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: Even if he does return, there's gonna be some attrition. 782 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: We know that some but probably not very maybe not 783 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: much of significance. 784 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: But you never know who's gonna come and who's gonna go. 785 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: So what is it? 786 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: What is it that's got you fired up the rest 787 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: of the way, And trust me, if we can figure 788 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: it out, I'll promote the piss out of it. Honestly, 789 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: I'll go crazy with it. 790 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 2: But what is it? 791 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: All right? 792 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: Four nine four or five one? You tell us? 793 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: Demon william is going to join coming up next on 794 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: ninety three to three kJ ARFM before cracking Columbus at 795 00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: six thirty. 796 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 10: Now the Colored ten two o six two eight six 797 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 10: nive to win your way to a CML cracking game 798 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 10: from your home for the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three 799 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 10: point three kJ r f M. 800 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: All right, uh be the tenth callar right now win 801 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: tickets for a cracking game two eight six, ninety five 802 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: ninety five. We're gonna hear from Demon Williams in a 803 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: matter of minutes. I spoke to the assembled media today 804 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 3: about the interception, the fumble, the whole thing, and then 805 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: I grabbed him by the back of the neck and 806 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: I dragged him down the hallway the tunnel and I said, look, man, 807 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: you and I are having a conversation. We are talking, 808 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: and so we spoke at a nice little five or 809 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: six minute talk. So you'll hear my take and my 810 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: talk with DeMont Williams coming up in a matter of minutes. 811 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: I do have something to announce here on the radio show. 812 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 4: You're pregnant. Congratulats I am. 813 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: I'm having a baby. That's why I'm so fat lately. 814 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: By the way, a trip to Wisconsin will do that 815 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: for you a lot of brats. It is unbelievable how 816 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: much weight I can put on over three days. Now 817 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: it comes off fast, but it's incredible how much I 818 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 3: can put on. I'm going to give you a Christmas gift, 819 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 3: and I've decided to not buy you a Christmas gift 820 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: this year. Instead, this will be my gift to you. Okay, 821 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: we got about four minutes here before we're gonna hear 822 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: from Demon Williams. You can talk about whatever you want, man. 823 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: Gonzaga Husky basketball, Well. 824 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 7: Gonzaga's playing Creighton in about an hour. I'm ready to 825 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,479 Speaker 7: getting ready for that one. 826 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 3: No, we're going to your son's golf game, no daughter, 827 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 3: talk about how much you love your wife. You can 828 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 3: talk about whatever you want. This is my gift to you. 829 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 3: Just don't expect squat on Christmas Day. 830 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair enough. 831 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 7: I would say my biggest disappointment in the Seattle sports 832 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 7: scene over the last twenty years that I've been on 833 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 7: this rate, at twenty plus that I've been on this 834 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 7: radio station is the fact that my greatest love in 835 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 7: the sport of basketball has not existed in the NBA, 836 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 7: and that for a vast majority of that time, our 837 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 7: college basketball team has been irrelevant. 838 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: And I have sat here like by myself. 839 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm the only person in this city 840 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 7: that watches college basketball or NBA every single night, and 841 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 7: yet I can't talk about it on the air because 842 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 7: it feels like nobody cares. I watched the Husky game 843 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 7: in its entirety. We got a long way to go. 844 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 7: I was a little bit, to be honest with you, 845 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 7: I was a little bit disappointed. I thought that was 846 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 7: gonna be a game that they could win, and I 847 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 7: still think it was a game they could win at Baylor. 848 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 7: Just not enough guys stepped up. Hanna Steinbach was rough 849 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 7: this team is gonna have a tough time shooting the. 850 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 4: Three ball all year long. 851 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 7: And I think when you have a tough time shooting 852 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 7: the three ball as a group in its entirety, yeah, 853 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 7: there will be guys that get hot from three, but 854 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 7: they don't have it. I didn't see a pure three 855 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 7: point shooter on that team, and teams are gonna be 856 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 7: able to scout that, and I think that's gonna limit 857 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 7: the upside of this team. I didn't realize that they 858 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 7: were that poor shooting the basketball, so I think it's 859 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 7: gonna limit. I still think this this team absolutely can 860 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 7: be in the NCAA tournament, but I think the upside 861 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 7: is limited just based upon just the pure shot making 862 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 7: ability or inability of this team. 863 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 3: Well, let me just ask this man, because I think 864 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: this was a basketball team that when they put this 865 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: thing together, we thought, huh, that is a tournament team 866 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: right there. Yes, are we saying now that we are 867 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: not going to be surprised if they missed the tournament? 868 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 4: No, I don't think you can say that for one game. 869 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 7: Like I just said, I still think they are going 870 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 7: to be a tournament team because I think the Big 871 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 7: ten should get nine ten teams which means all you 872 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 7: got to do is be in the top half of 873 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 7: the Big Ten. I haven't seen all Big Ten teams yet, 874 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 7: so it's tough for me to make that analysis on 875 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 7: whether the Huskies are a top half of the Big 876 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 7: ten team or a bottom half. But there's five or 877 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 7: six teams in the Big Ten that just talent wise, 878 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 7: have no shot being better than us. 879 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: Well, what what I need to see is I need 880 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 3: to see these guys be ready to roll by January. 881 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's fair to say. 882 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: With all all the NW guys they've got, Danny Sprinkle 883 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: deserves a few weeks here to get this thing together 884 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: because what I saw Saturday night or Sunday night, Dick, 885 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: sorry and Waco, I don't know if you noticed this 886 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: or not, and we got to break here in a second. 887 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: For Demon, I saw signs of a team that had 888 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 3: played three games together on Sunday night, especially at the 889 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 3: point guard spot, feeding the rest of his teammates. I 890 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 3: saw a guy in JJ Maniquit who was eighteen years old, 891 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 3: and I forget that he's so young, has barely played 892 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 3: with his teammates. They don't even know each other, for 893 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: God's sake, So that was my concern, that is he 894 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: going to have enough time to get this thing put together? 895 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: And they better because they got no choice. But hey, 896 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: Demon Williams had a chance to catch up with him, 897 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 3: told him off the air how impressed I was that 898 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 3: he sucked it up, and he joined the assembled media 899 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 3: this afternoon. 900 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I feel like this has always been 901 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 8: my mind, say, even in you know, high school and 902 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 8: coming up. My dad always taught me that you know, 903 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 8: you got to take your wins and also take your losses. 904 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 8: You know, the quarterback, and you know you're going to 905 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 8: get all the praise when you win, and you know 906 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 8: it's always going to come down all you want to 907 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 8: lose this, So it comes with the job and just 908 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 8: understanding that. And I think it's good for the team 909 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 8: to understand that, you know, what I mess up, I'll 910 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 8: take accountability as well and continue to play out stuff that. 911 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: I could work on too. 912 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's gonna say, I mean, obviously there's highs and 913 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 14: lows in this game. There's going to be a lot 914 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 14: more highs and lows for you as your career goes by. 915 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 14: What is Saturday night like for you when you're on 916 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 14: the plane, you're flying home thinking about the game Sunday morning. 917 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 14: What are those twenty four forty eight hours like for you, 918 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 14: particularly after a game like that. 919 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean definitely just disappointed, you know, not how 920 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 8: we wanted it to go at all, and going back 921 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 8: and watching the tam you know, having plays that you 922 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 8: want back is definitely you know, a bad feeling in 923 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 8: your stomach. You know, you just want to have those back. 924 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 8: But the only way to make those things right is 925 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 8: by going out and playing your best game this week. 926 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 8: And that's the only mindset you really can't have, Just 927 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 8: to look forward and try not to pay too much 928 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 8: attention backwards. 929 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 14: Yeah, Deman, we hear a lot from NFL players that 930 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 14: even talk about how much they hear from fans on 931 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 14: social media. With the advent of betting, they're hearing a 932 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 14: lot more from a lot more people. 933 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: Do you hear that stuff? Do you hear criticism? Do 934 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: you hear praise? Do you see social media and people 935 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 2: talking about you? 936 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 8: I'd say a little bit, But I think that the 937 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 8: best part you know about this is just trying to 938 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 8: stay off of it as much as possible. Obviously, you know, 939 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 8: obviously it's the same thing. You know, people are going 940 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 8: to send your praises when you do good, and you know, 941 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 8: it's just not so much when you do bad, and 942 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 8: that's just is what it is. And you know that 943 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 8: comes with playing the sport, that comes to playing any sports. 944 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 8: So yeah, I would say just trying to go back 945 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 8: to a draw onboard and focus on people in the building. 946 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 14: Well, the whole staying off social media thing. 947 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 2: I'm fifty two. 948 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 14: If you could show me how to do that, that'd 949 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 14: be phenomenal because that's a great way to go through life. 950 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 6: Man. 951 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 14: But to mine Williams with us, the lesson that you learned, 952 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 14: in particular from the fumble on third and twelve, talk 953 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 14: to me about what you want to take from that moment. 954 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 10: Yeah. 955 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 8: I was just say, a situation in the football, knowing 956 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 8: where I'm at on the field, knowing the type of 957 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 8: game it was, and the weather conditions obviously, just ball 958 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 8: security and general you know, just taking care of the 959 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 8: ball has to be a premium and I understand that 960 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 8: and just continue to just try to make sure I 961 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 8: improve on that each week and throw. 962 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 10: That it happen again. 963 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, And then same kind of lesson, same kind of 964 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 14: question on the deep ball to Desmond that got picked off. 965 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 14: Talk to me about what you saw on film that 966 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 14: you want to correct next time. 967 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 11: Yeah. 968 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 5: For sure. 969 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 8: On the field, I felt like I was going to 970 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 8: have a one on one opportunity, and you know, the 971 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 8: corner didn't really bite. So that's all me to stay 972 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 8: disciplined in my head and make sure I continue to 973 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 8: go through my progression and get to my guys in 974 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 8: the flats. Whatever I gotta do to just get the 975 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 8: ball out. 976 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 14: And you had a brand new center for a majority 977 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 14: of that game, and you might have handing a game 978 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 14: with you this Saturday. Tell me about that transition when 979 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 14: it happens mid game in a game like that where 980 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 14: it's wet, it's windy, and you got a brand new 981 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 14: guy under center. 982 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 2: How difficult is that to go through. 983 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 8: I want to say it's in crazy difficulties off the 984 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 8: reps in practice and you know, making sure that he 985 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 8: always stays ready and having that relationship with him, that 986 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 8: communication to understand that I trust him whenever he's in 987 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 8: the game, so continue to have that mindset with him. 988 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: I think it was just makes us be better. 989 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 14: Yeah, how much do you still feel like you're growing 990 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 14: as a quarterbacks as a second year guy? 991 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 2: In this game. Yeah, definitely. 992 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I feel like I have a 993 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,959 Speaker 8: ton of room to grow, and you know, I feel 994 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 8: like I just got to keep on just be where 995 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 8: my feet are and continue to just take it one 996 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 8: day at a time, and you know, just trust God, 997 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 8: whatever he has for me is already planned out, so 998 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 8: to be on my feet are and just taken one 999 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 8: day at a time. 1000 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 14: And just talking to you now and seeing you in 1001 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 14: that press conference, you look pretty fired up right now, 1002 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 14: like you're pretty motivated to get back out there Saturday. 1003 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 2: I can I can feel that. 1004 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 14: How how fired up are you right now to get 1005 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 14: out there Saturday and put Saturday in Wisconsin behind you? 1006 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean super fired up obviously. You know, like 1007 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 8: I said, the only way to you know, get that 1008 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 8: feeling out of your stomach is to go play your 1009 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 8: best ball this upcoming week. So just looking forward and 1010 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 8: trying not to look behind. 1011 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, is there anything about the road home road splits 1012 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 14: that you need to correct so you can give yourself 1013 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 14: the best chance to be your best when you're away 1014 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 14: from this stadium. 1015 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 8: Just still trying to figure it out. You know, that's 1016 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 8: a part of growing and a part of being in 1017 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 8: this League, trying to figure out how to you know, 1018 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 8: be as good as you are at home on the 1019 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 8: road and just continue to just find that out every 1020 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 8: weekend and trying to a good plan for each game. 1021 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I love it. Great stuff, man, appreciate this and 1022 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 14: we'll talk soon. 1023 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it.