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Speaker 1: All right, Bubo eight, on this chilling Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Someday, some way we will get warm again and some

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Speaker 2: not on this day. And so you've chosen the best

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Speaker 2: to us and carrying you through this early part of

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that later on in the show or

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl or whatever it may be. There was

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Speaker 2: a seismic occurrence yesterday in the world of journalism. For

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Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, the Washington Post went out of

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Speaker 2: business yesterday. It laid off about three hundred employees. It

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Speaker 2: completely wiped out its sports department. Other things too, were eviscerated,

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Speaker 2: like its metropolitan news coverage and its international news coverage.

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Speaker 2: This is ten amount to General Motors shutting down and

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Speaker 2: But the bigger deal is why did it happen? Why

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Speaker 2: we live in. You know, there is nothing more transitory

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Speaker 2: the American public has been shifting away from traditional media

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Speaker 2: more and more, and lately a lot more and more

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Speaker 2: They want affirmation, someone that tells them but what they

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Speaker 2: the traditional media less and less, they go to other sources.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to tell my next guest this. He

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Speaker 2: lived it, he knows it. Tommy Cummings has worked in

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Speaker 2: us here now to talk about, in essence, the death

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Speaker 1: How are you on this glorious day.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you. I kind of want to make

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Speaker 3: a correction there. My stories appeared in those papers. I

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Speaker 3: but I worked metro newsrooms that were some of the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco Chronicle. I believe you worked there too, right, Oh, yes.

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Speaker 3: The San Francisco Chronicle. You know, journalists sometimes take a

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Speaker 3: I missed Texas. Yeah, I came back.

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Speaker 2: I took a coastal adventure back in the nineties and

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Speaker 2: But media change over the course of time, didn't it, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: No longer do we wait for the quote unquote bulldog

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Speaker 2: I think that played a large part in what is

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Speaker 2: has appeared in all of these newspapers. One of those

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Speaker 3: It was a downer of a day yesterday when I

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Speaker 4: I just I can't see how that happens. I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but this paper was hemorrhaging money. I mean, Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 2: this is the United States of America is, and it, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: Why should even a multi billionaire decide to keep throwing

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Speaker 4: No? And you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Heard something on TV yesterday about how billionaires don't mind

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Speaker 4: You know, the the.

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Speaker 3: They're picking up a lot of these displaced journalists and

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Speaker 2: When I was in Washington and you know, the Post

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Speaker 1: But it was called the Bulldog Edition.

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Speaker 2: You know, it came out it was Tomorrow's news tonight, and.

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Speaker 1: I read it because it was it was. It was

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Speaker 2: It had sports columnists that were just outstanding people like

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Speaker 2: Tom Boswell wrote for that. John the late John Feinstein

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Speaker 1: But I just think that.

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Speaker 2: And we can we can debate whether or not journalism

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Speaker 3: That, you know, page views and and clickbait bring in readers.

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Speaker 4: And that's the New York Times. Does that? I know

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, you AI has had a

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Speaker 2: But I think the days of using your website, if you're,

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Speaker 2: Yep, no reason to subscribe to anything from that publication anymore.

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Speaker 2: Look, you get a ransom note in the past, and

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Speaker 5: So they're saying to the bad guy. Look, this is

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Speaker 5: they're humanizing her.

440
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Speaker 8: They're talking about her in you know, first name basis mom,

441
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 8: this mom, dad, She's wonderful, she does this, she does that.

442
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 8: And what that does is this is as all as

443
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 8: you know, as we have been trying to investigate cases,

444
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 8: is trying to humanize the victim. So the offender has

445
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Speaker 8: some degree of remorse or is somehow prompted to perhaps say,

446
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 8: you know what, let me give them, you know, some

447
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 8: room here to get their family member back.

448
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 2: Whoever did this has to know what her habits are,

449
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: has to know what that house looks like, possibly has

450
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: been inside this house, so what not? That then laid

451
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: them to a smaller circle of people that could have

452
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: pulled this off, unless, of course, somebody was lurking, had

453
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Speaker 2: broken into the house and as her mother came home

454
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Speaker 2: at nine point thirty at night. You know, maybe that

455
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: person had already broke broken in and taken her for

456
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Speaker 2: whatever reason, but it would have to have bet I

457
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: think somebody that knew the woman's habits and knew exactly

458
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Speaker 2: what the inside of that house looked like.

459
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Speaker 1: Am I off base here?

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Speaker 7: Well, you're not.

461
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Speaker 8: And one of the first things we look for is

462
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Speaker 8: whether or not it was a fourth century kind of

463
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 8: scenario or she let that person in. And typically when

464
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Speaker 8: we see a door that's been broken into or you know,

465
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Speaker 8: some kind of a fourth entry, we then speculate and

466
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Speaker 8: perhaps assume that the victim did not know the offender.

467
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Speaker 5: It could also be that the bad guy.

468
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Speaker 8: Is someone that knew, someone that knows her and somehow,

469
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Speaker 8: you know, say an appliance person that's delivering something to

470
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Speaker 8: the house, or the person that does her garden or

471
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 8: somebody that actually has access to her life that either

472
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Speaker 8: intentionally or not mentioned different things about her lifestyle that

473
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Speaker 8: allowed for the bad guy to know things about her

474
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 8: before he actually she actually you know, went inside the

475
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Speaker 8: house and abducted her. But there's no question this is

476
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 8: this has been planned. This is likely a two or

477
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 8: three personal scenario, and this was done at the time

478
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Speaker 8: when she was most vulnerable.

479
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Speaker 2: Is time on Savannah Guthrie's family side or is time

480
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Speaker 2: working against it? As these things, these kidnappings drag on,

481
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: it would seem to me that Time would not be

482
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Speaker 2: a friend of the family.

483
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Is it a friend of the family.

484
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: No, not at all.

485
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Speaker 8: And in fact, we often say that the first few minutes,

486
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 8: the first few hours after the abduction are really the

487
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 8: most important ones, because it's when the you know, we

488
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 8: can we can kind of create a circle around the perimeter.

489
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Speaker 8: We can then start looking at cameras that they delete themselves.

490
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 8: As you know, time progresses, and so no, I mean,

491
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Speaker 8: the longer he takes, obviously the the the less likely

492
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 8: is that we're going to recover her alive. That's not

493
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 8: to say that he has happened before, and that's not

494
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 8: to say that prayers don't work, right, But the reality

495
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 8: is is that that guys have a tendency of getting desperate,

496
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 8: and the more time that passes, the more that this

497
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 8: is going to be against you know, not only the victim,

498
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 8: but the victim's family as well.

499
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Speaker 2: Doctor Alex Steel, Carmen criminologist, our guests, we're talking about

500
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: the abduction of Savannah Gunthriie's mother, which is consuming the

501
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: news on this day and yesterday really since the event

502
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: occurred over the weekend on early Sunday morning. I'm just wondering.

503
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: One of the things that I know that police look

504
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: at is motive. What could the possible motive have been

505
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: to take this woman? I mean, sure her daughter is rich,

506
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of rich people that live

507
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: in that area of Arizona. What would the possible motive

508
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: have been for somebody to abduct her. There's a piece

509
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: here that's missing. There is a piece to the motive

510
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: that's missing here. For me, I don't want to be

511
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: speculed to because there probably are a hundred reasons why,

512
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: But why this woman if indeed there were other rich

513
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: people or parents of a rich person there in that area,

514
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me.

515
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that, you know, part of it is

516
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 8: also related to the fact that, you know, we don't

517
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 8: know what we don't know about her personal life, right,

518
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 8: We don't know if she's got some sort of an inheritance,

519
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 8: for instance, that a family member.

520
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: Would benefit from.

521
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 8: We also don't know, if you know, in the course

522
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 8: of her daughter's you know, professional life, if she made

523
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 8: somebody upset by some story that was covered. I mean,

524
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 8: you know, there are a lot of folks out there

525
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 8: that get fixated on many things, and those of you

526
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 8: that are public available to the public oftentimes inspire both

527
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 8: admiration and hatred, right, and so there are people out

528
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 8: there that want to seek revenge and there are others

529
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 8: that are seeking money.

530
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Speaker 5: And so it'll be interesting to see if this.

531
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 8: Ransom note was in fact legitimate, and if it was,

532
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 8: then that's going to give us a clue as to

533
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 8: whether or not this is really related to money and

534
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 8: more of a transactional type of crime versus something that

535
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 8: is personal and would have inspired revenge on behalf of somebody.

536
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: All criminals are idiots at some point.

537
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: They're idiots for trying to pull off a crime, or

538
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: they're idiots for getting caught I mean, criminals are not

539
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: the brightest people in the world. I'm just there seems

540
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: to be no evidence it was a dark area. Okay,

541
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: so the ring camera didn't work. Well, there doesn't seem

542
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: to be any evidence that they can find inside the

543
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: house except a small drop of dried blood, which could

544
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: have come from anywhere. She could have knicked herself a

545
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: week ago and failed to clean it up's apparently, although

546
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: maybe they're not done with their their deep dive. There

547
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: seems to be no evidence from cameras in and around

548
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: that neighborhood. Every single neighborhood has got cameras, either from

549
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: ring doorbells or from traffic lights or whatever it may be.

550
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: It's astounding. I know you don't share everything, but there

551
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: seems to be nothing. I worked in the television industry

552
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: for forty five years. There's got to be some reporters

553
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: that are on this thing that are uncovering at least

554
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: where those cameras are and what those cameras might show.

555
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: It's astounding there's been little evidence in this case at all.

556
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you, and I also don't buy

557
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 8: the fact that they don't have more information. Right, So,

558
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 8: I think that typically what happens in these cases, especially

559
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 8: when the FBI leads the investigation, is you know, there's

560
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 8: an ongoing joke in the industry that we often say

561
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 8: that when the FBI shows up to the crime scene

562
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 8: and they're leading the investigation, they often ask you know,

563
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 8: what do you know?

564
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: And when you ask him back, what do you know?

565
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 8: They say, I don't know anything, inspite the fact that

566
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 8: they may know something.

567
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: Right, So, I mean it's sort of like part of

568
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 5: the code of a bureau, which is they keep it.

569
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Speaker 8: To themselves and rightly so right, so this is the

570
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 8: idea is they're not and be releasing a lot of info.

571
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 8: I would say to you that there's likely DNA present

572
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 8: in the crime scene because it was inside a facility,

573
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 8: inside a home. That DNA is being preserved so you

574
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 8: don't have to worry about the elements coming in between

575
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 8: and destroying the DNA. So they likely have some extraction

576
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 8: of DNA. The question is whether the DNA matches the

577
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 8: person that was there last.

578
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: Week legitimately or the bad guys.

579
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 8: Right, And then the other part of this is that

580
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 8: they're also going to get flock cameras. Remember a lot

581
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 8: of cities now have these. You know LPRs as we

582
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 8: call them, which is license plate readers that essentially.

583
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 5: Are everywhere these days.

584
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 8: And they're in different traffic intersections and all that, and

585
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 8: they're constantly taking pictures.

586
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 5: Of someone's license plate and sending that over.

587
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 8: So I'm guessing that even if the local cameras were

588
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 8: not on, we're not activated, law enforcement knows something about someone,

589
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 8: but they're likely not releasing that information just yet.

590
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we'll get much information here in

592
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: ten minutes, but we'll see exactly what's being said up

593
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: at this news update at one o'clock out in Tucson.

594
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: As for you, doctor del Carmen, it's always great catching

595
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: up with you. Stay well, we need to hear your

596
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: voice and we'll touch base down the road.

597
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Thanks.

598
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 5: Oh, it's a pleasure, Thank you.

599
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: There is Ye again, the cops aren't going to share

600
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: everything that they know.

601
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: He's right.

602
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: The cops probably have things that they have uncovered inside

603
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: that house. They went back, if you remember, a second

604
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: time yesterday they declared the crime scene safe and clear,

605
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 2: and then forty eight hours later they're back at that

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: house again. So there must have been some sort of

607
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: tip off. There must have been something that they were

608
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: alerted to that they went back there to look forward again.

609
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: But as each day pass, as each minute passes, this

610
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: is marching down the highway to a story that's not

611
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: going to have a happy ending. When you do have

612
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: an abduction, when you do have any kind of forced entry,

613
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: any kind of kidnapping, it's if it's not within the

614
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: first twenty four hours, generally speaking.

615
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: And this is just history.

616
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with this case or with

617
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: what the police are doing out there right now. Time

618
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: is not a friend, and it'll be interesting. The real

619
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: question for me is why this woman? Why her? And

620
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: the thing the skeptic in me keeps saying, it's somebody

621
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: that she knew, somebody that she didn't seem threatened by.

622
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: There doesn't seem to be any indication of a forced entry. Now,

623
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: hopefully the reporters that are there, and they've got some

624
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: national people there. Not to demean anybody that works local

625
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: television or newspapers in the Tucson area, but hopefully those

626
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: are questions. That would be the first question that I

627
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: would ask, is there are there signs of a forced entry?

628
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: If there are, then that changes everything. If there wasn't

629
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: that it might be somebody that she knew, but they

630
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: are very limited in what they're saying. They either have

631
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 2: a lot, know a lot and are trying to flesh

632
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: whomever this is out, or they simply don't know. And

633
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: if the answer is they simply don't know, that in

634
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: and of itself is frightening. It is coming up on

635
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: twelve to fifty three. Still to come is the GOP

636
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: doomed this fall? The redistricting plan in California. It was

637
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court where the Democrats redistrict California and

638
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: in doing so picked up five additional seats in the

639
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: House of Representatives. The Supreme Court didn't want to hear

640
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: anything about that, didn't even issue an opinion.

641
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: So there you go.

642
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: You got five more seats you've got to worry about

643
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: in the House. And then of course you've got the

644
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Save Act, which I have no idea why the Republicans,

645
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: who are in control of the House and the Senate

646
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: and the White House, why that has not past where

647
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: you have to show a legal id when you vote

648
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: that you are a citizen of this country. Now, please,

649
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: the next time you see one of your representatives who

650
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: happens to be of the GOP. You may want to

651
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: ask him why has that not been brought up for

652
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: vote in the House, in the Senate, and don't let

653
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: them do the quick two step and say, well, it's

654
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: their problem, it's their problem. No, Ralph, I voted for you.

655
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: It's your problem. We'll get into that at two six.

656
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: It's twelve fifty four here now on the Home of

657
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Speaker 2: the Red. Seven hundred WLW. It's seven hundred WLW the

658
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Speaker 2: average American and for the great American on this Thursday. Obviously,

659
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Speaker 2: glad you're with us, for without you, what would I be?

660
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: I would merely be one man in a room sitting

661
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Speaker 2: by himself, babbling.

662
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Speaker 1: And why would I have to leave home to do that?

663
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Speaker 2: Bill and Hillary Clinton are going to testify in front

664
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Speaker 2: of Senate overs or the House Oversight Committee with their

665
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: alleged involvement with Jeffrey Epstein and what they may or

666
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Speaker 2: may not have done. There was some sort of negotiation

667
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: that took place that gets both of them in front

668
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Speaker 2: of a House committee. Meanwhile, more files on Jeffrey Epstein

669
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Speaker 2: were released earlier this week. Actually they were last fight,

670
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, and in doing so, the DOJ

671
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: made victims victims all over again by revealing identities through

672
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Speaker 2: photos and other means. And so lawyers representing three hundred

673
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: Epstein survivors filed a request this past Sunday for quote

674
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Speaker 2: immediate takedown of the DOJ website hosting Epstein materials. Meanwhile,

675
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Speaker 2: Todd Blanche's well known to you and me and everybody

676
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: else in the DOJ, says, this is it. These are

677
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: the files.

678
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Speaker 5: This is it.

679
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: There's nothing else. We got nothing else to release. And

680
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: in and of itself, maybe you don't find the Epstein

681
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: files all that interesting or tired of hearing about the

682
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: Epstein files. And I guess in some cases that's understandable.

683
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: But this is more than just the Epstein files. It's

684
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: also a look at how the powerbrokers in Washington, DC,

685
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: and around the world for that matter, operate. And so

686
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: now they have landed themselves squarely in the middle of this.

687
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: And so has now the House that want to talk

688
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Speaker 2: to the former Secretary of State and her husband, the

689
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Speaker 2: former President of the United States. Someone that's watching this,

690
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure with a keen eye, is about to join us.

691
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Speaker 2: He has retired Lieutenant Colonel Peter Shin. We've had Pete

692
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Speaker 2: on the show before. He is the associate director of

693
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Speaker 2: epstein Justice dot com. That is an effort solely, solely

694
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Speaker 2: dedicated to the victims of what Jeffrey Epstein did and

695
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: justice for them. And it's great to have Peachen back

696
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: on the show. And Lieutenant Colonel, it's great to hear

697
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: your voice again. How are you in this glorious day?

698
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Speaker 7: And I'm doing great.

699
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Speaker 10: It's a beautiful day out here in sunn Colorado, which

700
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Speaker 10: is where I live, and I am excited to talk

701
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 10: to you about this subject, which, as you have so

702
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 10: rightly pointed out, shows that the Department of Justice has

703
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 10: ignored the law almost in its entirety that was passed

704
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Speaker 10: on November nineteenth by every single member of Congress except one.

705
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Speaker 7: So there's still a.

706
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Speaker 10: Lot of work to be done to continue to put

707
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Speaker 10: pressure on the system in order for victims of Jeffrey

708
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Speaker 10: Epstein that the Department of Justice itself says numbers at

709
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Speaker 10: least more than a thousand, that at least some of

710
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Speaker 10: these victims can get some real justice. And there is

711
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Speaker 10: no justice without truth, Ken, No.

712
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Speaker 1: There isn't.

713
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Speaker 2: Why would the DOJ then release files that had pictures

714
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: of the these victims and information about these victims. They

715
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Speaker 2: turn them into victims all over again.

716
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Speaker 10: The answer to that question is I don't know. But

717
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 10: there's only one of two possible answers. One of the

718
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 10: answer is grotesque incompetence. You can't rule that out in

719
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 10: any government dealings. But the second one is that this

720
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Speaker 10: grip poisoned pill in order to deliberately non comply with

721
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Speaker 10: the law. Not that compliance has been very forthcoming anyway.

722
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Speaker 10: Let's just take a look at one aspect of how

723
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 10: the Department of Justice has failed to comply, and that's

724
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Speaker 10: with saying all the files released, well by the Department

725
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Speaker 10: of Justice's own admission, are roughly half of the information.

726
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 10: Roughly half of the files have been redacted.

727
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Speaker 7: Well that's I mean.

728
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Speaker 10: I'm no math and a math wizard. I'm not a mathematician.

729
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 10: I don't like to do math in public. But I

730
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 10: would say that they're holding back the material more or

731
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 10: less for reasons which are still unclear, especially when you

732
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Speaker 10: consider that the only supposed redactions are supposed to be

733
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Speaker 10: for victim information, which and ongoing investigations, which clearly they

734
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Speaker 10: didn't even do that part of the law. So but

735
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Speaker 10: here's the reality. The reality is that from the standpoint.

736
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Speaker 7: Of Epstein Justice and Epstein Justice.

737
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Speaker 10: Dot Com, the organization I represent, the release of files

738
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Speaker 10: has never been the goal anyway.

739
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Speaker 7: What the goal has been is to get.

740
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Speaker 10: Congress to formulate a nonpartisan Truth and Reconciliation Commission, a

741
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Speaker 10: true non partisan investigation that should probably be by cameral

742
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Speaker 10: with members of both the House and Senate, not some

743
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Speaker 10: farce like the j sixth Commission that you know obviously

744
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 10: was supposed to be bipartisan but clearly was not. We

745
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 10: need something because this is a nonpartisan issue. I should

746
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 10: think that the prosecution of the people who who let's

747
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Speaker 10: be honest to these children, I should think that that

748
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 10: would be a national priority. But for whatever reason, it

749
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 10: still doesn't seem to be ken.

750
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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, and you know, the skeptic in me says,

751
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: the reason why is it's far greater than what's going

752
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: on in Washington. I think you and I have had

753
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Speaker 2: this conversation before, and again I'm only looking at this

754
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: with a jaundiced eye. It would seem to me that

755
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: there are people that are being protected, that are of

756
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Speaker 2: that are on world stage and maybe not even in

757
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Speaker 2: this country, that are involved in the banking industry, maybe

758
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: involved in politics and other countries that would lead one

759
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Speaker 2: to believe that the United States has to do business

760
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Speaker 2: with these countries and they don't want the people involved

761
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: with those countries under some sort of scrutiny. Here, it's

762
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: got to be bigger than just the incompetence or alleged

763
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Speaker 2: incompetence of Todd Blanche and the DJ That, to me

764
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: is just too easy explanation as to why at the

765
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Speaker 2: point of you said November, Really, if I was Trump,

766
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Speaker 2: what I would have done, because I campaigned on this

767
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: is January the twenty first of last year, I would

768
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: have said, we're releasing everything. And then if they had

769
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: judges blocking them, well then you deal with the judges

770
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Speaker 2: blocking them. But from Trump from a political standpoint, to

771
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Speaker 2: protect whoever was in his administration from having a bad

772
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Speaker 2: eye cast on them for whatever reason, just get them

773
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Speaker 2: all out there. Here they are, I'm signed off on them,

774
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Speaker 2: take them, do whatever you want with them, regardless of

775
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: who is embarrassed or who is implicated. He didn't do that.

776
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Speaker 2: I don't know why he didn't do it, but he

777
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: didn't do it. And so here we are now, as

778
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: we just every so often we get this troth of

779
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: stuff dumped on us, some of which is without context,

780
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: others of which involves victims who are victimized. Again, it

781
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 2: seems to me there's something greater at play here than

782
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Speaker 2: all of that, don't.

783
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Speaker 1: You think so, Peter?

784
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: I do?

785
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Speaker 10: Can I do think there's something greater. It's like what

786
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 10: it is is hard to determine because we don't have

787
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Speaker 10: all the facts, which again speaks to the need of

788
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 10: a truly nonpartisan investigation. But all of that having been said,

789
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Speaker 10: in terms of it being bigger than just the United States,

790
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 10: the materials that have been released approved, that was beyond

791
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 10: a doubt that this is truly a global conspiracy, if

792
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 10: you want to put it that way, involving the Royalty

793
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 10: of Norway, the Royalty of the United Kingdom, elected officials

794
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 10: in a variety of countries, including quite notably Israel, but

795
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Speaker 10: not exclusively Israel. So it's not just a child sex

796
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Speaker 10: trafficking network that was in operation in the United States.

797
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Speaker 7: Far from it. As a matter of fact.

798
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Speaker 10: You know, one of Jeffrey Epstein's close friends, lu Brenad

799
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 10: in France, also took his own life after it was

800
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Speaker 10: revealed that he had been a part of Epstein's child

801
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 10: sex trafficking network. So this is a global phenomenon, not

802
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 10: just in the United States, and I do believe that's

803
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Speaker 10: one of the reasons then that we are not seeing

804
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Speaker 10: the kind of fulsome and aggressive action to really root

805
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 10: out who all was involved, because it's just too many

806
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 10: of the rich and powerful, and then rich and powerful

807
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 10: don't want to eat their own people like Jess Staley

808
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 10: rather who was the CEO of UBS, an enormous international bank,

809
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 10: of people like Leon black the chair of Blackstone, on

810
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 10: and on.

811
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Speaker 7: It goes.

812
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Speaker 10: All of these people in finance, government, and you mentioned

813
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 10: billan Hillary couldn't having to testify. They most certainly should

814
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 10: have to testify. I don't think you're going to get

815
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 10: any sacts out of them that are worthwhile, but I

816
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 10: think that anybody who had anything to do with this

817
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 10: should be hauled up in front of a nonpartisan investigatory

818
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 10: body in order to find the truth, which has certainly

819
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 10: not been revealed to this point.

820
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you look at just the files

821
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: that have been released the former President Clinton, you have

822
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: to delineate there because his wife is going to testify too.

823
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: But former President appeared on Epstein's private jetlog sixteen times

824
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Speaker 2: between two thousand and two and two thousand and three.

825
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Clinton said the trips for the Clinton Foundation and work

826
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Speaker 2: that he does there. But you can even go deeper

827
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Speaker 2: than that. I mean, there are a lot of phone

828
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Speaker 2: numbers for Bill Clinton in Epstein's Black Book. When did

829
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: he learn of Jeffrey Epstein? And under what circumstances? What

830
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: favors did Epstein request from you? What was given in return?

831
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Speaker 2: Sure he may not be forthcoming, I mean we all

832
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: saw the way he behaved when he was impeached for

833
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: what he did with Monica Lewinsky more than a quarter

834
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: century ago. But the fact of the matter is they

835
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: got him, and they can get him on the record.

836
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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going to get with Hillary,

837
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: but maybe she is complicit in some way, shape or

838
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: forming all of this. But from what I'm told, this

839
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: is not going to be an open testimony, that this

840
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: is going to be behind closed doors, So who the

841
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: hell knows what's going to go on there and who

842
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: knows what the kind of questioning is and what his

843
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: demeanor will be throughout. I'm glad they're in front of

844
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Speaker 2: a they're in front of a committee, and maybe it's

845
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: a start, you know, Peter, Maybe it's a start. Maybe

846
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: it continues from there with others, maybe they implicate others,

847
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: and then we get this thing moving forward and not

848
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: where it is right now, which is stalled. And these

849
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: documents have just come out that and I said earlier,

850
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people are growing weary of this.

851
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: Where is it leading to? Well, the reason why they're

852
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: getting weary is because it wasn't all out there in

853
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: the first place. So where do you think this goes

854
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: with Bill and Hillary?

855
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 10: I don't think the thing with Bill and Hillary goes

856
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 10: much of anywhere, candidly, for the reasons that you've outlined.

857
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 10: But that being said, you know, at the end of

858
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 10: the day, this isn't going to go away. Yeah, people

859
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 10: are tired of hearing about it. They're tired of hearing

860
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 10: about it because it's so clear that so many rich

861
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 10: and wealthy people were involved.

862
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Speaker 7: You know, think about this, Ken.

863
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 10: You and I have right, we know what our friend's

864
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 10: hobbies and interests are, don't we And we know that

865
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 10: why because we don't want to be associated with people

866
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 10: who have evil interests in hobbies.

867
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Speaker 7: Now that's just us, a couple of normal guys.

868
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Speaker 10: Why are wealthy people supposedly so different that they would

869
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 10: never investigate what their friend is into. That would be impolite.

870
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 10: I called DS on that ken, and I think that

871
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 10: everybody who was associated with Jeffrey Epstein closely knew exactly

872
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 10: what he was up to. How could you not? He's

873
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 10: your dear friend, and that's his primary interest. He's the

874
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Speaker 10: greatest child sex trafficker that America has ever produced, if

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Speaker 10: you want to use that kind of descriptor, but certainly

876
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Speaker 10: the most horrific and certainly the most prolific. So for

877
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Speaker 10: all of those reasons. Anybody who says, oh, I was

878
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 10: associated with him after he was a child sex trafficking

879
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Speaker 10: convicted by the way, and a registered sex offender, and

880
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Speaker 10: I continue to associate with him because he was such

881
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 10: a nice guy, those people need to answer for that,

882
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 10: because anything that says, hey, I wasn't I didn't know,

883
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Speaker 10: I just don't believe that for a minute. And if

884
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Speaker 10: that's the case, then you were completely incompetent and you

885
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 10: ought to be have some sort of consequence just on backgrounds.

886
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Speaker 7: There was no excuse for this.

887
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Speaker 1: Epstein is dead.

888
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: The people that were around him are implicated in the

889
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: evidence we've seen so far have been reticent to talk.

890
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Speaker 2: Bill Gates apparently did a mayor coopa a couple of

891
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Speaker 2: days ago, and okay, Julane Maxwell, she was nothing happened

892
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Speaker 2: apparently with him with Epstein without her by his side

893
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Speaker 2: or co conspira co conspiring with him.

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Speaker 1: She's alive.

895
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Speaker 2: Todd Blanche apparently went and deposed her in a jail cell.

896
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Speaker 2: Then they moved her to another, I guess more habitable

897
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Speaker 2: jail cell after that. It would seem to me that's

898
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Speaker 2: the star witness. Why isn't she in front of the

899
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Speaker 2: House Overside Committee.

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Speaker 10: Well, she's going to be probably or maybe she's agreed

901
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Speaker 10: to testify. But here's the thing, Glaie Maxwell is the

902
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Speaker 10: most notorious liar on earth. And if you believe, as

903
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Speaker 10: some do, that what Jeffrey Epstein was actually up to

904
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Speaker 10: was running a global blackmail operation on behalf of intelligence

905
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Speaker 10: agencies unknown. If you believe that, then for her to

906
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Speaker 10: say anything about we were doing anything would result in

907
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Speaker 10: in some sort of unofficial death sentence for her. And

908
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Speaker 10: so I don't think you're going to get a lot

909
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Speaker 10: of truth out of Gawaine Maxwell. In fact, her testimony

910
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Speaker 10: to Todd Blanch. Her statement to Todd Blanch, which was released,

911
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Speaker 10: suggested not only that she.

912
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Speaker 7: Had never done anything wrong, but.

913
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Speaker 10: She'd never seen Jeffrey Epstein do anything wrong and had

914
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Speaker 10: never seen any.

915
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Speaker 7: Other public official do anything wrong.

916
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Speaker 5: So I don't think you're going to.

917
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Speaker 10: Get any facts out of Gawaine Maxwell, who is a

918
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Speaker 10: notorious liar and frankly one of the most vicious petophiles

919
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Speaker 10: that you'll ever meet in your life.

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Speaker 2: She's in front of the committee, I guess on the night,

921
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Speaker 2: so it's here pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: What's today's date? I don't even know what today's date is?

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Speaker 7: You got she's a fifth sir?

924
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Speaker 2: Okay, five four days from now, she's going to uh

925
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Speaker 2: appear before this this oversight committee. Uh, you're but you're

926
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Speaker 2: but I mean, yeah, okay, she's a notorious liar. But

927
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Speaker 2: you have to you have to assume that if she

928
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Speaker 2: wants to get her rear end out of jail, she's

929
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Speaker 2: going to flip on people. Wouldn't you would you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: that stand a reason that you'll flip and then they

931
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Speaker 2: can investigate whether or not she's telling the truth.

932
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Speaker 10: Oh, it stands to reason that she'd flip on lunch

933
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Speaker 10: she fears for her life. Yeah, and that's the thing

934
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Speaker 10: we uh, presumably Blayne Maxwell is. I mean, she's had

935
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Speaker 10: plenty of opportunities to tell the truth and she has

936
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Speaker 10: failed to do so at every turn. So uh, it

937
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Speaker 10: seems quite unlikely that she would have a change of art,

938
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Speaker 10: even to free herself from prison. She could have freed

939
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Speaker 10: herself from prison.

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Speaker 5: At any time, could she have not by.

941
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Speaker 7: By providing fullsome evidence.

942
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Speaker 10: She's not chosen to do that, And I believe it's

943
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Speaker 10: because she's scared get killed.

944
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

945
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Speaker 2: Well, and she may very well plead the fifth you know,

946
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Speaker 2: or trying to strike some sort of ad hoc deal

947
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Speaker 2: on immunity. But yeah, well we'll see what it Bringsary

948
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Speaker 2: February ninth, four days from now. Peter, good work, as always,

949
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: thankless work. I know that you can find Peter to

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Speaker 2: Epsteinjustice dot com. And I say this all the time,

951
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: and I'll say it again for your time in uniform.

952
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: The country owes you a great debt, and I think

953
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: at the end of all of this a lot of

954
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: these victims will owe you a great debt as well.

955
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Speaker 2: It's good to hear your voice again, stay well, we

956
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: need to hear it.

957
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 10: Okay, Ken a great pleasure and I would join you anytime.

958
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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Peter.

959
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 11: Shit.

960
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Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes of the testimony by Maxwell

961
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Speaker 2: and then of the Clintons. But I agree with Peter,

962
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Speaker 2: I think much will it's coming up at one twenty

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Speaker 2: four right now, News Radio seven hundred l W.

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Speaker 12: Let me tell you something Cincinnati. When the workers and

965
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Speaker 12: Nora with a GM plant needed help, who'd you call you?

966
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Speaker 12: Called Cunningham? Let me tell you something else, When the

967
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Speaker 12: crippled and sick kids in the hospitals needed money the

968
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Speaker 12: Ruthline's Children's Christmas Fund.

969
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Speaker 5: Who did you call you?

970
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Speaker 4: Called Cunningham?

971
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Speaker 12: When a little guy, mister big boy out in front

972
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Speaker 12: of the Fisher's restaurants needed to be saved? Who did

973
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Speaker 12: you call you? Called Cunningham? And now is thanks for this?

974
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Speaker 12: I get the worst Cincinnati Talkshow host award.

975
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

976
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Speaker 12: To hell with Cincinnati Magazine, to hell with the people

977
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Speaker 12: of Cincinnati. I prepared an acceptance speech for the best.

978
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Speaker 1: Now I find out I'm the worst.

979
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Speaker 12: To hell with all of you, your dog, boring and old,

980
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Speaker 12: just like the guy who won the Best talk show Host.

981
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Speaker 5: And I'm getting out of here.

982
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Speaker 11: Oh oh hello, hello, Buyett Scot, I'm broadcasting.

983
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Speaker 1: Sig.

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Speaker 13: That was when he was younger and made sense. Tell

985
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Speaker 13: you what, ken Brew sounded like a speech on the

986
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Speaker 13: Grammys the other night.

987
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: Who was that? I don't know, Bunny, bad Bunny. Yeah, okay,

988
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: that was bad aging Bundy. That was just you look

989
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: wonderful today, said.

990
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: Same to you there, ken Brew. Yeah, yeah, you look good.

991
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: There's a glint in your eyes that I haven't seen before.

992
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: What's going on in your life?

993
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: Well, ken Brew.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome and uh.

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Speaker 13: Donna, the Queen of Ron's Ruth bringing down our lunch today,

1005
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Speaker 13: ken Brew, it's clucking good on the West Side, thirty

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Speaker 13: eight to fifty three Race Roads, sixty five years in business,

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Speaker 13: four two two to get those orders in right now

1009
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Speaker 13: for your Super Bowl party. Have you ever seen have

1010
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Speaker 13: you ever seen a worst display of manners when free

1011
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 13: food like today was delivered to this station, It's like

1012
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 13: all over the place, Like these people that work here

1013
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 13: are like raptors. That's all over the place. One thing

1014
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 13: is ken Brew. You can't be late, can't be late,

1015
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 13: you can't be hungry. Let's see Bengals update ken Brew. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: show tonight in San Francisco. Pro Football Hall of Fame

1019
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Speaker 13: class at twenty twenty six will be announced. Will the

1020
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 13: call come for Ken Anderson, Willie Anderson? It should have

1021
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Speaker 13: come ten years ago for Kenny and former Saint ex

1022
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Speaker 13: standout linebacker Louke Keighley. Now will they be called to Canton?

1023
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Speaker 1: All right?

1024
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: So if we believe the reports that Belichick and Craft

1025
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: are not in, that would leave it to Roger Craig,

1026
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: Elsie Greenwood and Ken Anderson. Now you have to get

1027
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the vote to get in. I believe

1028
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: there are fifty people that vote. Am I right about that?

1029
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: Fifty people at least? Okay, So you got to get

1030
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: forty votes to.

1031
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: Get in, and the question becomes which one of those

1032
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: guys is most likely to get forty votes? Like I said,

1033
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Anderson should have been in ten years ago. But correct,

1034
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't know. I don't think.

1035
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't think Willie gets in this year, Bengal. I

1036
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: just don't think he gets in this year. They're the last,

1037
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, The last right tackle to be

1038
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame was twenty

1039
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: five years ago.

1040
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: It was Jackie Slater.

1041
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: So they don't really value anything other than left tackle

1042
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: in that group.

1043
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 13: Also, ken Brew. Bengal center Ted Carris is up or

1044
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 13: the league as a league nominees for the Walder Peyton

1045
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 13: Man of the Year Award. That's my favorite Bengal. See

1046
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 13: what happens right there? People ask me all the time,

1047
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 13: who's your favorite Bengal? I said Ted Carris. I like

1048
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 13: Ted Carris. I just don't know why.

1049
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: I just do.

1050
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: He looks like a football player, he plays like a

1051
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: football player. He's down in dirty. You know what I mean,

1052
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: I got just down there. He's not afraid to get

1053
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: a little bloody, little dirt. I like Ted Carris Red's update.

1054
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Speaker 13: Reds pitchers and catchers report Monday the spring training camp

1055
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 13: in Arizona. It looks like the Man of Moeler. Cincinnati

1056
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 13: native Brett Souter is expected to sign soon with the

1057
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Speaker 13: Los Angeles Angels. Of course, Suitor spent two seasons with

1058
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 13: the Reds one hundred thirty three and a third innings

1059
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Speaker 13: in ninety five games, three eighty five e.

1060
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Speaker 1: R A seg.

1061
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Speaker 2: What is a eu Haineo Suarez? And I've often said

1062
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: that if I have another child, I'm going to name

1063
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: him if it's a boy, ave Haineo. Okay, what do

1064
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: you think au Haineo Suarez brings to this team? In actuality,

1065
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: not in hope, but in actuality, I think he will

1066
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: bring a well. Obviously, I hope Ken Brew the the

1067
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Speaker 2: bat that the offense needs because they've been picking up

1068
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: a bullpen guys left and right. They've done this, they've

1069
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 2: done that in the outfield and this here, there and everywhere.

1070
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Don't really need any pitching. They just need to keep

1071
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: him healthy.

1072
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 13: And I think that he can be a force in

1073
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 13: the clubhouse that has been lacking over the past few years.

1074
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: With his experience and everything.

1075
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Speaker 13: And then, you know, I mean, him coming back means

1076
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 13: some probably some extra tickets are going to be sold

1077
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 13: because people loved him.

1078
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: Now, who loses at bats with him coming back? See,

1079
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk about who's the odd man out here?

1080
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 13: Well, I would think he would d d H most

1081
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Speaker 13: of the time, probably be a probably play third base

1082
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 13: every so often for a day for key Brian Hayes

1083
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Speaker 13: or another and maybe an other position, maybe first base

1084
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Speaker 13: or something if somebody needs a day or two or whatever.

1085
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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1086
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't know either, but I guess he's gonna take

1087
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna take AB's away from somebody. Yeah, you know, Now,

1088
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe that's a good thing, right, Maybe that's a good thing. Oh,

1089
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Speaker 2: he hit forty forty nine of them in Arizona and Seattle. Yeah,

1090
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: I think he could do most of that here Monday pitchers.

1091
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: There are a lot of those guys are out there

1092
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: right now, that's correct, Yeah, them out there.

1093
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 13: I haven't heard anything yet, but apparently I guess Graham

1094
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 13: Ashcraft was scheduled for his arbitration hearing. Today Monday is

1095
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 13: Tyler Stevenson's Day.

1096
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Well, maybe there's a settlement. Maybe there is, and we

1097
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know about it yet.

1098
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 2: Before they get in there, and before after they get

1099
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: in there, there may be just hey, you know what,

1100
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Rather than have this go one way or the other,

1101
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: why don't we just meet in the middle.

1102
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Correct?

1103
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 13: Tonight in college basketball, Clifton is the site for Big

1104
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 13: twelve action. The Bearcats will host West Virginia six point

1105
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 13: thirty right here on seven hundred WLW. Also Maryland up

1106
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 13: against Ohio State and ken Brew the win. Their Olympics

1107
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 13: are underway.

1108
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: Now here's the question, before we get to the Olympics.

1109
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: H huh, it's Bob Huggin's going to be in the

1110
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: stands tonight.

1111
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 13: That I don't know, could be who knows hugs where

1112
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 13: hugs could be? You never know, you know, it's not

1113
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 13: like the old days, but he could be there. Ken

1114
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 13: Brew over in Italy. Let's see, uh hockey, the USA

1115
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 13: women when they're opener today over Chechia five to one.

1116
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 13: The USA has gone to nothing two wins.

1117
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: Now.

1118
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 13: In the mixed doubles curling curling, they upset Norway and

1119
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 13: beat Switzerland.

1120
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: I'll teach them. I've been to that.

1121
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 13: I think anybody, we think anybody we lose to in

1122
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 13: the Olympics without invade, where is the well.

1123
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Or just you know, take them over. Have a team. No,

1124
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Have a team. We might have

1125
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: one before Monday with the with the Trumpster in town.

1126
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: Now let me let me ask you. This opening the

1127
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: opening ceremonies tomorrow tomorrow. So they're doing all of these

1128
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: ahead of the opening ceremony.

1129
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got so.

1130
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 13: I guess they got so many games they have to

1131
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 13: start like a day or two early for some of

1132
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 13: these sports.

1133
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a problem with the hockey arena, like it

1134
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: was too short, or it didn't make ice, or there

1135
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: was something there was something wrong.

1136
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: With that out It wasn't it wasn't finished. But it's finished.

1137
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: Now it's finished.

1138
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 13: Now, Yeah, they got it all done well, I guess,

1139
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 13: I guess most of it ninety nine percent of it done.

1140
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: But well, the women played a game there, right, Yeah,

1141
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: they passed today.

1142
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 13: So it's but I mean, I think the ice was

1143
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 13: fine and everything else. I mean they tested it out

1144
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 13: and everything, but it was the uh, it was the construction.

1145
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: Now you you just gave results from from the Olympics.

1146
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: Don't you worry about that? There are people out there are.

1147
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: Saying, Dan, I don't want to know who want I

1148
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: want to go home and watch it because I t bowed.

1149
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 13: It because they well, we'll just wait and see. Ken

1150
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 13: Brew haven't gotten a call yet. I used to do that,

1151
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 13: you know, I mean years ago.

1152
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1153
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: I would not give if we were televising it, we

1154
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: would not right get. But if if I was working

1155
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: perhaps at you know, a affiliated station, I'm.

1156
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: Going to report it right, well the news.

1157
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 13: Look at tomorrow you got the NBC's got the opening

1158
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 13: ceremonies at two o'clock in the afternoon. Then they're going

1159
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 13: to replay him at eight o'clock tomorrow night.

1160
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: So you already know.

1161
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: If somebody walks in and like they trip and fall, right,

1162
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: or if somebody walks in and they start dis robing

1163
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: in the middle of the parade, you'll already know it.

1164
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: You have to report it, right, I would think, So

1165
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 2: you have to report it. I mean, somebody starts taking

1166
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: their clothes off in the middle of an Olympic parade,

1167
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: one would think the listening public would want to know

1168
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 2: that we got action. We got turtle action and the

1169
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: cold action too. That's right where they playing these things.

1170
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 13: Italy were not Milan Portina Italy, Tina Milan Port. They

1171
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 13: were there seventy years ago in nineteen fifty six. Yeah, well,

1172
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 13: that's that's probably where he that's probably where he is

1173
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 13: over there.

1174
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: No, he's not over there pleasing octagenarians out of their

1175
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: Social Security checks on a golf course somewhere. He's well,

1176
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: wait a minute, it's too early for the Uh No,

1177
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: that doesn't it's too early for the beef and noodles

1178
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: today at at Morrison's Cafeteria Fried mush uh. I. But

1179
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, the farther you get away or the further

1180
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: you get away from the Olympics, like when when you

1181
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: had I I don't, I don't. I don't know what

1182
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: these people are, do you. I know, Lindsey Vaughn blew

1183
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: or nea out.

1184
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're still going to ski And well you got

1185
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 13: Nick Nick Gepper over there. Yeah, there's another and yeah,

1186
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 13: and then you got the kid from Sharonville who's there.

1187
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: He's uh, what's he doing? Some trick?

1188
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 13: They have piper whatever it is. It's that same kind

1189
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 13: of stuff that uh that Gepper does.

1190
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: Is the flying Tomato involved in these festivities? I don't

1191
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: think so now anymore. I think he's too old. John

1192
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: Claude Keeley not involved, No long gone? Okay, too bad too?

1193
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: You remember? Do you gotta remember this song?

1194
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: Wouldn't It Be Nice? Wouldn't it be nice? It's the

1195
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: Beach Boys on seven hundred. You know why I'm playing

1196
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: this sig?

1197
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: Bet?

1198
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 13: I bet you it's a birthday for one of the

1199
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 13: Beach Boys. Close, very close.

1200
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: Wouldn't It Be Nice was one of the songs that

1201
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: featured on drums hal Blaine session musician The Wrecking Crew.

1202
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: He played on forty number one hits, over one hundred

1203
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: and fifty top ten hits, and recorded, by his own admission,

1204
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: on over thirty five thousand pieces of music over four decades.

1205
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: Hal Blaine The Wrecking Crew on drums. Had he been

1206
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: alive today, hal Blaine would have been a ripe old

1207
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: ninety seven.

1208
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

1209
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: He left this earth in twenty nineteen. I had hal

1210
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: Blaine on my show, said many many years obviously before died,

1211
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: but I had him on my show, and guy had

1212
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: a lot of stories to tell, just in a career.

1213
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: Brian Wilson loved hal Blaine. Wow, I love that. I

1214
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: didn't know that told me a story that they're in.

1215
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: They're in the studio and Frank Sinatra rolls in and

1216
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: he was doing Strangers of the Night. That's what he's

1217
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: going to record, and he had the session time book

1218
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: between six at night and nine at night out in California, Okay,

1219
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: and hal Blaine is sitting there with the rest of

1220
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: these musicians trying to figure out, you know, when is

1221
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: Frank going to show up? Eight forty five, fifteen minutes

1222
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: before the session ends. Incomes, incomes Frank Sinatra. Okay, gets

1223
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: in front of the microphone and he started Strangers in

1224
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: the Night and he stopped, stop stop. Glenn Campbell's on guitar,

1225
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: he's part of the Wrecking Crew, and he's staring at

1226
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,479
Speaker 2: Sinatra like, I can't believe I'm playing on a song

1227
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: with Frank Sinatra. This is before Glenn Campbell was like

1228
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: Glenn Campbell, and Sinatra says, who's this guy? And why

1229
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: is he staring at me? And so they had to

1230
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: stop the whole session. Meanwhile, time's running out, there's only

1231
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: like eight or nine minutes to go, and they explained

1232
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: of Glenn Campbell says, look, I'm just an aubus, and

1233
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: he said, well, I don't want you to be in

1234
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: awe of me. Just play the song. So they play

1235
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: the song. Sinatra gets it in two takes and literally

1236
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: as he's singing at the end.

1237
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Doo by Dooby do do do do do Dooby.

1238
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: They fade out, and Sinatra is walking at the door

1239
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: at two minutes to nine o'clock with his entourage before

1240
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: they even fade out of the song.

1241
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 13: It's unbelievable. It's a great story. Help blake story. How

1242
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 13: about that can prove he did he told me that story?

1243
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 13: That's unbelievable.

1244
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Dooby dooby doo? How about that?

1245
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 7: Who knew?

1246
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 4: Not me?

1247
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 13: I like that song and hear it every so often,

1248
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 13: and I'm going, did he forget the words or something exactly?

1249
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: Now I know Glenn Campbell's over there playing stare. I

1250
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm playing with Frank Sinatra, and Sinatra's.

1251
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: Who's this guy? And why is he staring at me? Wow?

1252
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: These are the things said that you can't get anywhere else.

1253
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 2: That is correct, ken Brew, Maybe a good reason why,

1254
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: thank y story. Stooge Report will be back here in

1255
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: a little bit. We'll have more fun and frivolity, I'm sure,

1256
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: But for now, let's bring closure to.

1257
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 13: This ken Brew. I want to mention one more thing here. Yes, yes,

1258
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 13: because spring and summer hopefully right around the corner, maybe

1259
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 13: by June. But the Sincy Boat Expo is coming to

1260
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 13: the Sharonville Convention Center this weekend February seventh and eighth,

1261
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 13: and then again from the eleventh to the fifteenth. Admission

1262
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 13: is only ten dollars, parking free. You can browse over

1263
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 13: seventy boats learn more at sincyboatexpo dot com. Wow, I'll

1264
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 13: bet you there's some anchors away there. There you go,

1265
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 13: ken Brew, an honor of Frank Sinatra.

1266
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: Do be dooby doo.

1267
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 13: Yes, we leave you with the immortal words of the

1268
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 13: Stewo Report.

1269
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 6: Nast cars is sport. I just I just participated in

1270
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 6: a sport because I just came back from Kroger. So

1271
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 6: I mean, is driving your car is a sport? And

1272
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 6: I'm an athlete?

1273
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: You know what do you? Speaking of?

1274
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 13: Kroger, Ken Brew, Ryan Priest and the Kroger Coca Cola.

1275
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 13: Ford won the Cookout Clash last night for his first

1276
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 13: NASCAR Cup Series win.

1277
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: So I like about you. You're seamless. Amen, your name

1278
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: should be Seg not Seg. Yeah. On news radio seven

1279
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

1280
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 5: Alright, still Aye.

1281
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: It's the average American in for the Great America and

1282
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: on this Thursday, welcome back, led You are witherus keeping

1283
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: up to date and on pace with a lot of things,

1284
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: not the least of which the political landscape of twenty

1285
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: six This is really, I think going to be a

1286
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:10,479
Speaker 2: seismic change in Congress. I know the GOP is trying

1287
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: to downplay it. They're going to have some sort of

1288
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: convention mid season, like July, whatever it may be, and

1289
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 2: do that.

1290
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: For the first time.

1291
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, as of right now,

1292
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: sixty members of Congress, twelve senators and forty nine House

1293
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: members have announced they will not run for reelection to

1294
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: their current seats this year. Departures include thirty four Republicans

1295
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: and twenty six Democrats. Now off, your elections are always

1296
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: tough on the party in charge. It would seem like

1297
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: considering the unrest that exists inside the GOP right now,

1298
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 2: with a lack of delivery on promises that were made

1299
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: by this president as he campaigned in twenty twenty four

1300
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: and by current members of the House and the Senate,

1301
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: which the GOP controls, has created, if nothing else, apathy

1302
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: and it's nothing worse than just general unrest and maybe

1303
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: even upheaval and the acceptance that this is not working

1304
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: out the way they were told, standing by someone who

1305
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: thinks it will be a midterm blood bath for the GOP.

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: We've had Jeff Croweer on the show before. He's kind

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01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: of legendary in New Orleans. He's a talk show host

1308
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: down there, radio TV, written interviewed a lot of people,

1309
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 2: and we've had Jeff on the show before. It's great

1310
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: to have mine again. Jeff, how are you on this

1311
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: glorious day?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Great, great to be on interesting topic. I'll tell you.

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01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: How's everything in New Orleans? I love New Orleans. I

1315
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: love the Garden District. I think that's just wonderful. My

1316
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: son went to college down there, so I spent a

1317
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: lot of time down there about twenty years ago and

1318
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: just absolutely love New Orleans. It's a city deep in heritage.

1319
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of nutballs that live in

1320
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Not you, but a lot of them down there.

1321
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: Well, how are.

1322
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: Things in New Orleans? And I know, you brace every

1323
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: time there's bad weather, But how are things down there?

1324
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 9: Well, I mean generally speaking, they're okay. We've had three

1325
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 9: hundred and let's see, eight years. We've survived. We've survived Katrina,

1326
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 9: Who've survived incompetent leadership, We've survived being their capital. And

1327
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 9: right now we've got a new mayor who's starting just

1328
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 9: was inaugurated last month, and you know, we're hopeful although

1329
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 9: it's the same party and the same ideology as the

1330
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 9: one before, but at least she won't get indicted. Two

1331
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 9: out of our last three mayors have been indicted. We

1332
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 9: did just have. You know, we've got a staffing shortage

1333
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 9: with the NPD. We've about six hundred officers short. And

1334
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 9: it seems like they're now recruiting illegals because I've just

1335
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 9: apprehended one of the new recruits for the NPD, a

1336
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 9: guy from Cameroon who was not someone that they should

1337
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 9: have been recruiting. He's someone that shouldn't even be in

1338
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 9: the country.

1339
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 5: So other than those issues.

1340
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 9: And you know, budget woes, we're two hundred million dollars

1341
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,440
Speaker 9: in debt in the city and they're looking for bailouse.

1342
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,480
Speaker 1: This is not a nice picture I'm hearing.

1343
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 9: And the fact that the prison is under a federal

1344
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 9: consensu creek. If they can't run their own prison, then

1345
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 9: you know, we just had ten inmates escape a few

1346
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 9: months ago. Other than that, we're doing great. We've got

1347
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 9: Marti Gras and what people down here always focus on

1348
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 9: as the parties, and you know you got Marti Gras

1349
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 9: coming and that's less than two weeks now, so that'll

1350
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 9: be a good distraction.

1351
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: I read your story here on the bloodbath that you

1352
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: foresee coming from the GOP. And as I mentioned, the

1353
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: party in power always has problems retaining seats in the

1354
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: House and some seats in the Senate. I mean, it's historically,

1355
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: it's just that way, right. It's my opinion, and I've

1356
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 2: often said this, and you can tell me whether you

1357
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 2: share this or not that in Washington, d c. Every

1358
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: Democrat is a Democrat, but not every Republican is a Republican.

1359
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: And therefore we have what we have, and that is

1360
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 2: the Republicans may have the numbers, but they really don't

1361
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: have the fortitude to go ahead and rule. There should

1362
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: have been things that have been done and done quickly,

1363
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: and yet they.

1364
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: Don't want to do them.

1365
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: They don't want to do things like past the Save Act,

1366
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 2: they don't want to do things like in the Blue Slip,

1367
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 2: they don't want to do things like invoke the end

1368
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: of the filibuster, the non verbal filibuster. And I think

1369
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: that drives average people that want change absolutely crazy, and

1370
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: I think that's why they're in the position they are

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: in now, would you.

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Speaker 9: Agree hundred percent?

1373
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 4: Right?

1374
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 9: You know, back in the day, when we were you know,

1375
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 9: following this decades ago, I mean, Democrats had a real division.

1376
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 9: You had the Blue Dogs, you had the moderates, and

1377
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 9: you had the liberals, and you know, you did have

1378
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 9: a diverse Democrat party. Now, yeah, the Democrats are far

1379
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 9: left and the only one who's not is John Fetterman,

1380
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 9: and everyone else is far left. So they have unity.

1381
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 9: Among Republicans, you've got Maga and you've got Rhinos, and

1382
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 9: there's really a big divide, and they don't have enough

1383
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 9: really to support the president's agenda. In Congress, the majority

1384
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 9: is so small that, I mean they are barely you

1385
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 9: know by on votes. You've got people that are super maga,

1386
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 9: or you can call them maybe super libertarian or constitutionalists

1387
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 9: like Thomas Masthey, Ran Paul who go against a lot

1388
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 9: of what the leadership is doing because they don't think

1389
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 9: it's pure enough, they don't think it's good enough. So

1390
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 9: you've got all kinds of problems. In bottom line is

1391
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 9: you're one hundred percent right. They haven't delivered. And this

1392
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 9: is reminiscent of the first two years of the first

1393
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 9: Trump term where Republicans controlled everything. They didn't get rid

1394
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,839
Speaker 9: of Obamacare, they didn't really deliver on anything but tax cuts,

1395
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 9: and then you had a blood bath. You had I

1396
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 9: think forty seats that were lost in the House, and

1397
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 9: then of course that led to two impeachments of the president.

1398
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 9: So my prediction is that Democrats take control of the House,

1399
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 9: and they surely look like they're going to do that.

1400
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 9: You know, we'll see another impeachment of the president.

1401
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they will.

1402
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: The first order of business for the Democrats if they

1403
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: gained the House, will not be anything that benefits you

1404
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 2: and me or anyone else in our daily lives. They're

1405
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 2: not going to put more food on our table, make

1406
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: it more affordable. They're not going to make the housing

1407
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: market any better. They're going to impeach Donald Trump. There

1408
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: they're desperate to impeach somebody they want to impeach Trump,

1409
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: Christy Nome, they want to impeach Hegseath. They live on

1410
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. They are power hungry, the Democrats.

1411
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: And this is this is not a condemnation, this is

1412
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: an observation. They want power. The Republicans. When they have power,

1413
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: they have no idea what to do with it. They

1414
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: much are more comfortable I think, out of power.

1415
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 9: Than with and let's face that they are. They're more

1416
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 9: comfortable complaining and being in the minority when they have

1417
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 9: no power to do anything. But they can complain and

1418
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 9: they can fire people up with their complaints. But when

1419
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 9: they have power and the ability to lead untility to

1420
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 9: get things done, they don't do it, and then they

1421
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 9: get thrown out of power again. Right, So they're more

1422
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 9: comfortable being in the minority, no doubt about it.

1423
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1424
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: Jim Jordan almost became a parody of himself during the

1425
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: Biden administration. Every single day he was sending a strong

1426
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: letter to somebody. I'm sending a letter out tomorrow. I'm

1427
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 2: going to make a point of this tomorrow. Well, dude,

1428
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: you're in a minority. Nobody's listening to you. It sounds

1429
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: great on Fox, but in reality not happening. So now

1430
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: when they get power, we have these these show pony

1431
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: hearings and all that, And I don't know what Comer

1432
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: is doing with the oversight thing. They're now wrapped up

1433
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 2: in Epstein and it just it seems to me that

1434
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that they get wrapped up

1435
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: in goes nowhere. And I think that's why we have

1436
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 2: what we have right now. And Democrats are walking in

1437
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: lockstep on this. Susan Collins is afraid of her own shadow.

1438
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 2: Murkowski is not a Republican. She's largely in office because

1439
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: of her father and because Mitch McConnell would not allow

1440
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: a legitimate, I mean a legitimate contender for her seat

1441
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: from his Republican party to even get a whiff of

1442
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 2: money four years ago. And you got McConnell who should

1443
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: have just retired after blocking Merrick Garland's candidacy for the

1444
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: Supreme Court and just declared victory and got home. So

1445
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: what we have, I think is just is this trying

1446
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 2: to herd cats there that really don't want to be

1447
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: heard in the first person. I think that's why. And

1448
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: average Americans don't. They look at this part and say,

1449
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: it's almost comical.

1450
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 9: And you got to Bill Hopolong Cassidy, of course, our senator,

1451
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 9: who now that he has been relieved of having to

1452
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 9: pretend like he's for the Trump agenda when Donald Trump

1453
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 9: endorsed one of his opponents in the Senate race, he's

1454
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 9: now back on the war path against the President and

1455
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 9: came out condemning Ice, and you know, he'll be back

1456
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 9: to his normal rhino ways. So yeah, I mean there's

1457
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 9: a collection of them that are uninterested in helping the president.

1458
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 9: They might, you know, claim they are, but in the end,

1459
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 9: they don't get it done. And with this filibuster that

1460
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 9: you brought up earlier, if they don't get rid of it,

1461
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 9: I mean, they're going to get nothing through. And then

1462
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 9: of course the Democrats, whenever they have power, you know,

1463
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 9: they're gonna they're gonna get rid of it. They're not

1464
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 9: going to because because Joe Manchin and Kristen Cinema are gone,

1465
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 9: there's no you know, only John Fetterman. So I think

1466
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 9: they will probably be able to get rid of it.

1467
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 9: And they certainly will. So John Dune doesn't want to

1468
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 9: do it, and that's the problem. They don't want to

1469
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 9: take action.

1470
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: They don't want to lead, and they're in lies to

1471
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: belief that it's nothing more than a uniparty and even

1472
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: worse than that. For the GOP, it just seems that

1473
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 2: they cave every time. And you know the I mentioned,

1474
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: we can talk about the save vac here.

1475
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: In a second, I mentioned the Blue slip.

1476
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: The reason why Trump can't get any kind of traction

1477
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: from judicially is because of this antiquated thing where senators

1478
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: can absolutely nuke any appointment of a judge or a

1479
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: judge candidate by saying no, don't want him. And the

1480
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: frustrating part is it's not just happening in Democrat controlled

1481
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: states where you have two Democrat senators. It happens in

1482
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 2: Republican states where you have two Republicans in office. If

1483
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: they did away with that, and you're right, the Democrats

1484
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: are going to do away with all this when they

1485
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: get control. He just did it away with that, he'd

1486
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: have these judge ships, he would have these appointments, and

1487
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: he could get done what he wants to do. I

1488
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: don't understand what the reticence is there.

1489
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 9: Well, it's tradition. Chuck Rassley, who's in the nineties, I

1490
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 9: think you know, is an adherent of the blue slip

1491
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 9: rule and doesn't want to even talk about getting rid

1492
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 9: of it. So that's your issue, you know, Macca Grassling,

1493
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 9: and people have been there for decades, decades too long.

1494
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 9: We need term limits. We need to get these people

1495
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 9: in and out so we get fresh blood in there.

1496
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 9: But it's so difficult, as you mentioned, with the fundraising

1497
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 9: and trying to take on one of these incumbents, so

1498
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 9: they just stay up there and it's just a business

1499
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 9: as usual, the good old boys club, and and nothing

1500
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 9: gets done. So yeah, we're left out here with a

1501
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 9: lot of folks that are that are angry, and they

1502
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 9: don't see the agenda getting accomplished, and they're not going

1503
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 9: to be motivated to go vote. And I know the

1504
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 9: President's going to try and you're going to do what

1505
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 9: he can to whip up support. He's going to try

1506
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 9: to nationalize the election and that might help somewhat. It

1507
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 9: might help keep the Senate, but I don't see a

1508
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 9: scenario where they can keep the House.

1509
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I at this point, I don't either.

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: What could what could help that party is if they

1511
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: passed the Save Act. I think then you might get

1512
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,520
Speaker 2: at least feeling as something has happened.

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Speaker 1: Very simple.

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: An idea is required to vote that proves you're a

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: United States citizen. And we don't have these vote ramas

1516
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: in a lot of these these blue states where it

1517
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: seems like anybody can vote and then we'll figure out

1518
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: if you're a citizen afterward. I think they have I

1519
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: think that would be a start. I don't know again,

1520
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: whether or not they can muster up these votes. I mean,

1521
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of people in the House that

1522
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: are in that are Republicans in purple districts, and they're

1523
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 2: scared to death to have anything controversial tied to their name.

1524
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: Because the most important thing to any politician, as you know, Jeff,

1525
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: one your vote, two your money, and three have nothing

1526
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 2: attached to them with regards to a controversial vote. But

1527
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: I think if they passed the Save Act, it might

1528
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: be a start.

1529
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 9: And I just saw the data analysts for CNN and

1530
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 9: Harryanton point out that, you know, the numbers show that

1531
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 9: Americans of all parties, all race ages, supports voter ID.

1532
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 9: I mean it's popular. I mean among black voters it's

1533
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 9: like seventy six percent, popular among white voters it's in

1534
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 9: the eighties, and among Hispanic voters, it's almost as high.

1535
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 9: So it's very popular throughout the country. So they should

1536
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 9: listen to the people and get it done. And I

1537
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 9: think we're going to have to get rid of the

1538
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 9: filbuster to get it done. Yeah, because that's the only

1539
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 9: road I see for it to happen.

1540
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: Right, and again, the Democrats are going to get rid

1541
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: of that when they get back into power. I'm looking

1542
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: at the list of these Republican senators that are up

1543
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: for reelection. Collins in Maine, she's scared of her own

1544
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: shadow now means a purple state. We'll see what happens

1545
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,959
Speaker 2: with that seat. I think your guy that you mentioned, Haggerty,

1546
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: I think despite the fact that he's now he's in

1547
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: Trump's doghouse. We'll see if that stays in the Republican category.

1548
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: And I think Kentucky, I think the seat that Mitch

1549
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 2: McConnell is giving up is very much in play. So

1550
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 2: this thing could turn on a time on them in November,

1551
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: and then Trump is crippled in his final two years

1552
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: if not impeached and if not convicted, although I don't

1553
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: think he'll get the required votes for conviction in the Senate,

1554
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: but he will be impeached, which will stop everything for

1555
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: this country for two or three months as we go

1556
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: through the impeachment process. So I don't know who's in

1557
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: charge of trying to fix this thing from the gopiece standpoint,

1558
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: but a hocus pocus of a mid midterm convention isn't

1559
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: going to solve it for that party. How do you

1560
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: see this all turning out, Jeff? I mean you view

1561
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 2: this from a lot of different angles. How bad will

1562
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 2: it be in the Senate? We know it's going to

1563
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: be bad in the House. How bad will it be

1564
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: in the Senate for the Coop?

1565
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 9: Well, Republicans hold a fifty three to forty seven edge

1566
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 9: right now. But as we've talked about, some of these

1567
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 9: senators are very weak Republicans. I've looked at some of

1568
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 9: these races, you know, like here in Louisiana, we'll have

1569
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 9: a Republican get elected. It might not be Cassidy, it

1570
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 9: might be one of his opponents. So I think the

1571
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 9: Republicans will be able to eke out a majority in

1572
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 9: the Senate and lose the House. The question is how

1573
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 9: big will the Democrat margin be. I think the average

1574
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 9: for a party out of powers like twenty nine seats.

1575
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 9: It was greater than that in twenty eighteen. We'll see

1576
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 9: what happens. One of the things is the RNC doesn't

1577
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 9: have leadership. I mean, you had leadership when Laura Trump

1578
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 9: was there. I thought they did a good job in

1579
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 9: helping the president win the twenty twenty four election. But

1580
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 9: they've been basically silent since then. And they've done a

1581
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 9: terrible job in these special elections. I mean Democrats have

1582
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 9: won every one, and including the last one in Texas,

1583
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 9: in a district President Trump won by seventeen percentage points,

1584
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 9: they lost by almost fifteen, So I mean that's terrible.

1585
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 9: And then they were saying, oh, there was an ice storm,

1586
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 9: but you know, an ice storm affected Democrats too, and

1587
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 9: they came out and voted.

1588
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Right right, right.

1589
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Trump's not on the ballot, it affects Republicans,

1590
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: but it does not affect Democrats at all. I'm looking

1591
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: at the Democrats side of things too. I mean, if

1592
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: you want to look at people that are senators that

1593
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: are vulnerable, I think also off and Georgia should be

1594
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: a target for the GOP. The open seat in New

1595
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 2: Hampshire should be a target. What of Minnesota, now, I

1596
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: mean Minnesota is in the news a lot, and it's

1597
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: only going to get worse for the current group there

1598
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: with regards to fraud. You've got a seat that's opening

1599
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: up with Clobashar who's going to run for governor. Do

1600
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: you see a scenario at all where the Republicans pick

1601
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: up seats in twenty twenty six.

1602
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 9: In the Senate, possibly in New Hampshire. I don't see

1603
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 9: it in Minnesota. I mean, Minnesota has been a very

1604
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 9: hostile state or Republicans in the past few decades, ever

1605
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 9: since Norm Coleman lost or really questionably low. Of course,

1606
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 9: New Hampshire has had sin you knew in statewide position

1607
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 9: before he just got endorsed by Trump. So I think

1608
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 9: that would be a possibility in New Hampshire. Georgia should

1609
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 9: be a Republican pickup, but their strongest candidate decided not

1610
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 9: to run. I mean Brian Kemp, who is the governor.

1611
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 9: He would have been I think a strong favorite, but

1612
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 9: he decided not to run. So you know, you have

1613
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 9: to give the edge to the Democratic convent right now. Yeah, So,

1614
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, it's it's going to be close, but

1615
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 9: I do see them hopefully pulling it out and then

1616
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 9: trying to deal with the house situation, you know, and

1617
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 9: then they're back to writing strongly worded letters and going

1618
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 9: on Fox News.

1619
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1620
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a letter I'm sending out in the morning. Well,

1621
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: good for you. You better send it. You better send it

1622
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 2: by email if you wanted to run. Where can people

1623
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: find your TV show, jeffere can people find Ringside Politics?

1624
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 5: Well?

1625
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 9: Thank you? It's on Real America's Voice on Saturdays at

1626
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 9: one Central. And my radio show is weekdays seven to

1627
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 9: nine and six to seven on WGSO Radio in New Orleans.

1628
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 9: And all the information about my shows and columns and

1629
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 9: clips and everything is that my website, which is my

1630
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 9: last name, crewair dot net c R O U E

1631
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 9: r E dot net.

1632
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: I believe that that's nine to ninety on the AM

1633
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 2: dial in New Orleans?

1634
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 9: Is it not nine ninety the mighty nine ninety. Yeah,

1635
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 9: we're celebrating this year, our eightieth eightieth year broadcasting in

1636
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 9: New Orleans.

1637
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get another mayor indiceted to celebrate. That'd

1638
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: be that'd be fun, right, Jeff, thanks you, thanks for

1639
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: your time, man, We appreciate it.

1640
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 9: Stay well, all right, take care, Thanks for having me.

1641
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: Yep.

1642
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: Jeff Crowerer in the city of New Orleans. I love

1643
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: that city, culinary, unbelievable. Home of Emerald Lagassi. Love New Orleans.

1644
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 2: A little rough when it comes to crime, though little

1645
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 2: rough when it comes to crime. We're two twenty seven

1646
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: on this Thursday, Ken Brew the Average American in for

1647
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: the Great American News Radio seven hundred W l W.

1648
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 14: The whole town's batty about in Cinnati. Water Team, Water Team,

1649
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 14: Water Team, each man and a lady from one to aid.

1650
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 14: And how they scream, how they scream, how they scream.

1651
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 14: Keep barn routing every inning and they'll do their best.

1652
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 7: To keep bon winning.

1653
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: You can tell you.

1654
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 14: All, I am a hattie this year it's Cincinnati Water Team,

1655
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 14: lot A Team, lot A Team.

1656
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 11: Hello, quiet, and I'm Spots. I'm broadcasting for you.

1657
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 2: Bony guy, say, do you know who that was singing

1658
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 2: on that song?

1659
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: You no? Oh, although a guy had a good boy.

1660
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 13: Wait a minute, I know it was Frank Sinatra. After

1661
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 13: last hour, the last two minutes he needed for his session,

1662
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 13: he recorded that song for the for the Reds.

1663
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: Guy's name was Larry Vincent ohs Close, who performed at

1664
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 2: a lot of nightclubs around here. He was a regular

1665
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: at a place called the Lookout House.

1666
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: I remember that place.

1667
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he started his own record label, which was

1668
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: Pearl Records.

1669
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: Pearl Records.

1670
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, now he's back in the forties and this is

1671
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 2: a song that he recorded. But he also had like

1672
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 2: songs that were, shall we say, a little risque. He

1673
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: would do those kinds of things. But he recorded that.

1674
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 2: I think he was an organ player.

1675
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1676
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 13: The other day, Ken Brew, I noticed that that was

1677
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 13: the anniversary of what was it, February third, nineteen fifty nine,

1678
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 13: mm hm, the day the music died.

1679
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, the Big Bopper, Ritchie Valens, Buddy Holly,

1680
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: Buddy Well, no, Buddy Holly wasn't on.

1681
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Vellen and

1682
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: I guess what, uh Waylon Jennings gave up his seat.

1683
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he did.

1684
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 9: So.

1685
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: I was just noticed that the other day.

1686
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 13: That was I thought, you think about that, and you

1687
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 13: think about uh, you know, Don McLean was here in

1688
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 13: Cincinnati a few weeks ago. I'm sure he sang that song.

1689
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 13: So that's the that's I don't think that's his best song.

1690
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 13: I think his best song was Vincent.

1691
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:43,919
Speaker 2: But yes, say, by the way, was the greatest sporting

1692
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: event that you ever saw in person or on television?

1693
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: I'd have to say the Miracle on Ice ken watching

1694
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 1: it on TV, Bigo.

1695
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Yes that. Somebody asked me that question

1696
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago. I said, without questioning, the

1697
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: Miracle on Ice. Yeah. I mean, there's been a lot

1698
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: of teams that have won a lot of different things,

1699
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: a lot of players that have done a lot of

1700
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 2: different things.

1701
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: But the Miracle on Ice, for me, was it the

1702
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: Frazer was it?

1703
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 13: The Freezer Bowl was at forty one ninety two, A

1704
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 13: lot of places, but Miracle on Ice, which was not

1705
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 13: televised live, that's true, You're right. I was working at

1706
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 13: a television station at the time. Walter Cronkite ended the

1707
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 13: CBS Evening News by saying, in a stunning upset, the

1708
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 13: United States hockey team has defeated the Soviets, what was it.

1709
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Four to three, four to two something.

1710
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 13: And that was big obviously, But then they had to

1711
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 13: go on and what beat Finland or Sea Finland for

1712
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 13: the gold medal.

1713
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 2: And they were down, oh too to Finland in that game.

1714
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: People don't realize that. Yeah, So yeah, I mean it was.

1715
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,879
Speaker 2: It was, it was wild. I went to I covered

1716
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 2: what like it was like an equestrian event for ESPN

1717
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 2: in Lake Place, New York. This is going back maybe

1718
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: thirty years ago. And I went by to see the

1719
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 2: hockey arena. I wanted to see it, and it was

1720
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: chained up and closed. You couldn't get in.

1721
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Is that right? I was upset about that. Wow, how

1722
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: about that?

1723
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 13: I figured that would be a that'd be a like

1724
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 13: a I mean, I figured that was that place would

1725
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 13: be a shrine.

1726
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: Well it was.

1727
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: It went into complete disrepair. I mean to a point

1728
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 2: where I don't think they even saved the ice that

1729
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 2: was in there. I think the building still exists. But

1730
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, but that was the best man. I just

1731
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: I was wondering about what you thought. But anyways, say, guys,

1732
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: digress and I don't like to be that way. Have

1733
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: enough digestion problems, go right?

1734
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 13: Ahare ken Brewthey as stood reporters of proud service. Every

1735
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 13: local Tamestar heating and air conditioning dealers, Temestar quality you

1736
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Speaker 13: could feel in beautiful Western hills.

1737
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 9: Ah.

1738
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 13: Yes, called Durbin Heating and Cooling at five one, three,

1739
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 13: five nine eight eighty four forty nine or go to

1740
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 13: Durbin Heating and Cooling dot com.

1741
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Spots bad day for your heater to be out, That's

1742
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: for sure.

1743
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Bengals update. It's like that song seg is your heater

1744
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: hot tonight? Or is it just Lukewarm?

1745
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 13: Who's that buy? It was a novelty song. I don't

1746
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 13: think Larry Vincent visited. Larry Vincent didn't do that. No,

1747
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 13: let's see Bengals up. They brought to you by Good Spirits,

1748
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 13: Winding Tobacco, and Party Town, thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky.

1749
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 13: NFL Honors show tonight in San Francisco, Ken Anderson, Willie Anderson,

1750
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 13: Luke Keikley of for the Pro Football Hall of Fame

1751
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 13: Class twenty twenty six to hear their names called the

1752
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 13: Canton Bengals Center. Ted Carris, I don't know about that,

1753
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 13: is among the league's nominees for the Walter Payton Man

1754
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 13: of the Year Award.

1755
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: Kinkley's in, Larry Fitzgerald is definitely in. He'll be in.

1756
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

1757
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: I mean though they completely did that thing to the

1758
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: pooch with the voting system a couple of years ago.

1759
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: For these senior Canadas they throw them in the same

1760
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 2: mix as coaches and contributors, and it's just like it's stupid.

1761
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: It is.

1762
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, how do you how do you put

1763
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson, or for that matter, put Eli Manning, or

1764
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: how do you put them in the same category as

1765
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:14,480
Speaker 2: somebody that was a coach or a contributor.

1766
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's apples and orange. Yeah, you're right.

1767
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't understand it.

1768
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 2: But I mean, Bob Craft owned the Patriots and they

1769
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: won all those Super Bowls. But what the hell did

1770
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: Bob Craft do besides here's a bunch of money, Go

1771
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: get some players. Oh and by the way, if you

1772
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 2: don't get the players I want, you're fired. Next year,

1773
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: I'll throw some more money at some other people. Yeah,

1774
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, come on.

1775
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 13: Both the Patriots and Seahawks continue working out for Super

1776
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 13: Bowl sixty Sunday. The action will be right here on

1777
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 13: seven hundred WLW Sunday starting at five pm. And some

1778
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,879
Speaker 13: of that, as I said yesterday, some of that pregame

1779
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 13: show is going to be from Live from Alcatraz.

1780
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fantastic. I got thrown off at Alcatraz once

1781
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stories protested where we're protesting

1782
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: with the Indians or I went there.

1783
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 2: No, we went there, and we went to a place

1784
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: we should not have gone, which was the third floor

1785
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 2: of the cell because of the prison, because we wanted

1786
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: to see where the Birdman of Alcatraz.

1787
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the old Burt Lancaster. Oh yeah, So we went.

1788
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: We went to that cell and one of the guys,

1789
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 2: you know, the guys that come out with the Yogi

1790
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: bear ranger hat on. Yeah, he literally escorts us from

1791
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: there off the island and we were banned from Alcatraz.

1792
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: I was. I was in Tampa at the time. I

1793
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: was working down there.

1794
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 13: Well why would why would that be why would that

1795
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,600
Speaker 13: be off limits? You would think people would want to

1796
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 13: see that.

1797
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: Well, apparently it wasn't safe. What I could tell was

1798
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: chained off. But wait, you know when is that ever

1799
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: stopped a television crew?

1800
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: Oh how about Andrew, You're really going after the story there?

1801
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: I was going after the story there.

1802
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 2: I wanted to sit on that bunk where the Birdman

1803
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 2: of Alcatraz sat, And unfortunately we were showing the door.

1804
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: About five of us, oh, five of us, we were

1805
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 2: banned from ALCA.

1806
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 13: Wonder if your picture's still there on the wall. I

1807
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 13: don't let these people in. Well I was.

1808
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: I might have been the the first and only person

1809
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,560
Speaker 2: that was asked to leave Alcatraz.

1810
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 13: You might he might have been as famous as the

1811
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 13: guys that thought they escaped.

1812
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 2: That's right, I mean you could yeah. Yeah, what was

1813
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 2: that the Frank Morris? Yeah, escaped from Alcatraz? Yeah?

1814
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: What is it? The the U is it?

1815
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 13: The Elgin brothers could have something like that, something you

1816
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 13: could I don't.

1817
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 1: Know, brothers, I don't know. I'm just saying that that.

1818
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 2: It was literally Yogi Bears rangers showed up and I said,

1819
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: could I I'm walking, We're walking. I hey, can I

1820
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 2: stop in the gift shop on the wed No, you're

1821
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 2: leaving right now, right off the right, on the boat

1822
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 2: and off the island.

1823
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 4: Wow.

1824
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: Ken Brew look out, scared of death, came over on

1825
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 2: a nice ferry and we left on some boat. That hold,

1826
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: I mean could have held more than three people, and

1827
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 2: there were five of us. I swear to God that

1828
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 2: whatever that is that bay was coming over the top

1829
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: of it. And of course I'm saying to the potagrapher fugitive,

1830
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the photographer ho'd you get that.

1831
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: Just get hold the.

1832
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 13: Let's see tonight college basketball Cincinnati Bearcats in West Virginia

1833
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 13: six thirty year on seven hundred WLW. I think next

1834
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 13: three to four or home for the Bearcats. So maybe

1835
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 13: they can turn things around, they can start winning some games. Well,

1836
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 13: you know, West Virginia is not that good, right, what

1837
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 13: are they? Fourteen and six? I think yeah, I don't

1838
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 13: think fourteen and eight something like that. Red's update to

1839
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 13: Madam Mueller. Brett Souter looks like he's expected to sign

1840
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 13: with the Los Angeles Angels after two seasons here with

1841
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 13: the reds Oh back to football, ken Brew, How about this?

1842
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 13: The National Football League announcing the Rams and forty nine

1843
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 13: ers will play the NFL's first ever game in Melbourne,

1844
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 13: Australia later this year.

1845
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 1: In Melbourne, Australia.

1846
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 13: They're going to Melbourne, They're going to Rio, They're going

1847
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 13: to Paris. That Paris one has the Saints going there,

1848
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 13: and guess who plays the Saints this year?

1849
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: But don't the Bengals play the Saints here? Aren't the

1850
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Bengals the home team here? And somebody said the Saints?

1851
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 4: Maybe?

1852
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 13: I don't know, I can't, I don't, I don't while this,

1853
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 13: I don't think the whole schedules come out yet on it,

1854
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 13: And well, maybe you're right.

1855
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't remember. I think they play

1856
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 2: the Saint, I think they could. I think the Bengals

1857
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: are going somewhere.

1858
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: I really do. They're going to go somewhere in Europe

1859
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,879
Speaker 1: or someplace. Seg, you recognize this song the great bass.

1860
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 2: Workers, James Jamerson, one of the Fuck Brothers. Seg, this

1861
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 2: is the temptationous. Papa was a rolling Stones. And I

1862
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 2: knew us, we knew us something like that. Wherever lead

1863
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: he laid his hat was his home. And when he died,

1864
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Paul he left us was alone.

1865
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Seg.

1866
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Today, had he been alive, the man who wrote the

1867
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: lyrics of this song, Barrett strong Is, there would have

1868
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 2: been eighty five years old about that. But Barrett left

1869
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 2: this earth in January twenty two, twenty three, the age

1870
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 2: of eighty one. A great lyricist heard it through the grapevine.

1871
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 2: Waballic confusion. And this popo was a rolling Stone. You

1872
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: know who also said that Mick Jagger's kid Chury it's

1873
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: a joke, a little little, little lovely anyway, he would

1874
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: have I think Motown Motown saying huge huge, Barrett Strong,

1875
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 2: Norman Whitfield and Barrett Strong, great songwriting team from Motown.

1876
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 2: But it was Strong that wrote the lyrics of this song,

1877
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: which was difficult. It was supposed to be a A

1878
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 2: A A instrumental really and then Barrett Strong says, wait

1879
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: a minute, norm I got some words that may work,

1880
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 2: and it turned into Omega head for the Rolling Stones,

1881
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 2: never know the for the for the Temptations. Yes, I

1882
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: didn't mean to interrupt set. I get wrapped up in

1883
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 2: trivia and that just leads me down rabbit holes. Please go, good.

1884
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 13: Story, So, ken Brew, you don't know about Larry Vincent,

1885
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 13: you know about the Papa was a rolling Stone?

1886
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm Casey Cason. Where else you gonna get this stuff?

1887
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: Keep reaching for the stars and keep your feet.

1888
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 13: On the ground, ken Brew would to remind everybody the

1889
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 13: Cincinnati Boat Expo is coming to the Sharonville Convention Center

1890
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 13: this weekend February seventh and eighth, and then we'll run

1891
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 13: from eleven to the fifteenth mission only ten dollars parking

1892
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 13: free right there. Off I seventy five brows over seventy boats.

1893
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 13: Learn more at Sincyboatexpo dot com You know, my.

1894
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,560
Speaker 2: Wife told me, besides you're too old, get off the radio. No,

1895
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 2: what she told me was, you never want to own

1896
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: a boat. You want to have a friend that.

1897
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: Owns a boat.

1898
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1899
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's a she's you know, she is a

1900
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: big water sport enthusiast.

1901
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1902
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: And and I guess you know when you think about

1903
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 2: it's a lot of work owning a boat.

1904
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: But if your friend owns a boat, then he's got

1905
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: out of the work. That's correct, Yeah, that's correct. Anyway,

1906
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 1: So how many boats are going to be there? Over seventy?

1907
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,839
Speaker 2: My goodness, that's a lot of boats in that convention

1908
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 2: center in Charonville.

1909
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 13: Start to think warm thoughts have you been? That's a

1910
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 13: wonderful y. No, it's a beautiful facility, very nice menu.

1911
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 13: Say anything else going on that we need to know about?

1912
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Nothing else can brew?

1913
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 2: Why don't you get us out of the stewge report,

1914
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 2: seg this has been a little slice of heaven.

1915
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: I may be back tomorrow. I hope so more stories.

1916
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 13: I hope so ken brew in honor of the Winter Olympics,

1917
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 13: starting the Bearcats playing tonight and you on the radio, Oh,

1918
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 13: we leave you with the immortal words of the Stewed.

1919
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: Report.

1920
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 8: I am so excited about this team. I'm just getting

1921
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 8: pumped up about it.

1922
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're going to bring championship baseball back

1923
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:49,560
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati.

1924
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: He didn't say when we will bring championship baseball to Cincinnati.

1925
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 13: Didn't say when, ken Brew. Maybe maybe it's twenty twenty six.

1926
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 1: You never know, could be thirty six. You don't know.

1927
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1928
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: It's coming back. We'll dust off Larry. We'll dust off

1929
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Larry Vincent and play it every day until it happened.

1930
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 13: Getting back to fun again. Seg yes, sir, ken Bruce,

1931
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 13: see you tomorrow. Thank you for your time today, see

1932
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 13: you later. All right, that's it.

1933
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 2: Coming up next is the exciting dance team of Eddie

1934
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,959
Speaker 2: Fingers and I believe it's it's Jason Williams.

1935
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 1: I think that's in today. Rocky's off, Jason's in today.

1936
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 2: Two of the finest people in broadcasting and people we

1937
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 2: revere here in the hallways of iHeartMedia and its cluster

1938
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 2: that sits up here in Kenwood where we emanate from

1939
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day. Back tomorrow in for the

1940
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: great American. It's the average American over and out on

1941
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 2: the home of your Cincinnati Ridge seven hundred w welw