1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: As part of our never ending coverage for the twelfth 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Man in the NFL. This is Football Fridays with Hugh 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Millin sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka Tito's on game Day 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: for me and coach fine cocktail recipes for the everyday 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: fan at Tito's Vodka dot Com forty percent alcohol by volume, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: namely eighty proof, crafted to be savord responsibly. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Now with you, here's Safie and Dig. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 3: All right, normally we have this guy on Monday for 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: a little more at four, but how about even more 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: at four on a Friday afternoon. Humelan joining us right 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: now on the radio station, Hue, how are you? 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 4: Palt's going on? 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Good to be with you. What's happening? 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot going on, dude. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: The Sharon Moore story just getting sadder and sadder by 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: the second. This Kyle Whittingham story stepping down after twenty 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: one years as the Utah head coach. The Colts might 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: be starting a forty four year old grandpa on Sunday, 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: literally a grandpa against the Seahawks. I mean, I don't 20 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: know what's got your being a bonnet right now? 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: Man? 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Tell us, well, I think among those things. You know, 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: just looking at Philip Rivers, in looking at all of 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: the history of the NFL. Now Rivers just turned forty 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: four on December eighth, right, So I said, well, okay, 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: all all starts by quarterbacks age forty three or above, Well, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: there's been sixty seven games that have been started by 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: a quarterback who's forty three or older. Of those sixty five, 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: the person is Tom Brady in fifty seven of them. 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: Steve de Bergh had one. He threw for one hundred 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: and seventeen yards and a forty three passer rating. Warren 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Moon had one he threw for one hundred and thirty 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: yards and a thirty eight passer rating, both of those losses. 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: By the way. Then Vinnie Testa Verdi had six and 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: he was two and four in those and average one 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine yards passing and average just sixty 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: four pass rating. So now Brady had a lot of 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: really good starts in those. So if you're not Tom Brady, basically, 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: if he has any good game, it's almost like he'll 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: be the second man in the history of planet Earth 41 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: to do it at his age, bucking extremely long odds. 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: And that's not even talking about the five year layoffs. 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: So I think all signs point towards a really difficult 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: day for him. Now. The one thing two things to mention. 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: I do think that there's a galvanizing effect. I think 46 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: that the Colts they were really down on Monday with 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and the injury, and they thought, oh boy, 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: we're done. I think the old Man has probably infused 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: the based on reports I've seen and what have you 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: comments from the Colts, I think the old Man has 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: infused them with some confidence that they may have for 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: a driver to this Sunday. It's the Seahawks obligation to 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: squelch that. And then the other part of it is 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: is the Colts actually have a really good array of 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: targets for any quarterback with with Ty Warren and Pittman 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: and a couple other receivers and of course Jonathan Taylor. 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: So there's some dudes on there. That was an offense 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: that as of this Sunday morning was number one in 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: the NFL and points scored. So that's something that I 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: think Philip rivers. If he's going to drive some confidence, 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: it will be when he looks around at the guys 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: he's thrown to because there's some guys. 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, I agree with you that that's probably the 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: thought process to give him a little bit of hope. 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: It flies in the face of what Ryan Clark said 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: though this morning. He said it was quote incompetent and irresponsible. 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: For the Colts to start Philip Rivers. How would you 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 4: respond to. 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: That, Well, what does he say is the alternative? I mean, 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: I would not like to be Brett Rippan, who's the healthy, 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, professional that's being overlooked on here. So I 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: think in that regard he has a point. I think 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark is he's been a controversial guy for a 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: number of years. I don't know where the irresponsibility is. 75 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: I heard the sound clip. I think he was alluding 76 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: to how old and how immobile Philip Rivers is. But 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: you know Tom Brady, you know, he makes the point 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: that sacks are more about the quarterback than any other aspect. 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: To that point, in Tom Brady's last two years, the 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL who had the lowest sack rate 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 2: was Tom Brady. The quarterback in both of those years 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: who had the highest sack rate was justin fields in 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: this era or any era, what however, you want to 85 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: describe mobile quarterbacks and that group versus immobile quarterbacks. The 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: mobile quarterbacks always take more sacks, they take more chances 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: the immobile quarterbacks. As a rule, they know that they 88 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: don't have the legs to avoid sacks, and so they 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: have to be aware of what their checkdowns are, change 90 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: the protections, get the ball out of their hand. They 91 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: never really think, oh, my legs are going to get 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: me out of this trouble. So that's not to say 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: that Philip Rivers isn't going to surrender a lot of 94 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: sacks a lot of hits. I mean he's going against 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: the team in the Seahawks that are number one in pressures, 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: number one in pressure percentage of forty four point two percent. 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: Number one. This excuse me, this is since week six. 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: This is after Tampa Bay when they got Eamon Worry 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: and their guys back. This is week week six and beyond. 100 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: Number one in yards fewest yards per game, Number one 101 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: in defensive EPA, number one in percentage of plays with 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: five rushers that result in offensive negative EPA. Sorry that's 103 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: reading word for word from the NFL staff portal. I 104 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: mean this is this, This defense here is you know, 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: a a a titanic force that he's going to have 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: to deal with. 107 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: And I. 108 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Don't see all signs. I can't. I can't close my 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: eyes and see Philip Rivers having any kind of successful 110 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: day off. 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can you close your eyes and seeing see 112 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 3: Riley Leonard having any success against the Hawks? I mean, 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: I guess the way, Well, the way we're talking here 114 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: is that we're expecting Rivers to start. 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: The Colts have not said anything. 116 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: They will not say anything until Sunday, which is smart 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: by them. Are you assuming, Hugh, that we're going to 118 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: see Philip Rivers start this game? 119 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: Well, I don't have anything other than what the reports 120 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: are saying, and they think, you know, people who cover 121 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: this are saying that it's leaning towards Philip Rivers. You know, 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: Riley Leonard has a NAMCL. I've had an mcluh. There's 123 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: grade one, two and three. I haven't heard or has 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: it been disclosed whether it's a grade one, which is 125 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: my grade three, which is severe. I had a Grade 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: two something in between, and and so I don't know. 127 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: I think that if if Riley Leonard were healthy, I 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: think he'd be the starter. Brett Rippon is going to 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: be the backup if Riley Leonard is is not playing. 130 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I guess I would say I'll 131 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: be surprised if I don't see Philip Rivers, because that's 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: the way the reports have suggested. 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 5: Is this an indictment on the depth of the quarterback 134 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: position in the NFL? 135 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think that you know, this all transpired after 136 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: the trading deadline, right, and so I think we have 137 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: a totally different situation. I think what we have here is, 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: you know, Brett Rippon, for whatever reason, he has not impressed. 139 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: They took a gamble. I mean, think about this, if 140 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: if we see Philip Rivers. Remember now this is Anthony Richardson. 141 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, he's on a rookie contract, but he was 142 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: the fourth overall pick, and so the the competition was 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson. Well, Anthony Richardson, you know, 144 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: evidently can't handle the rubber band without you know, blinding himself. 145 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: So so he's out of contention. Riley Leonard has the 146 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: mc SO at best, Philip Rivers is the fourth string 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: quarterback right and and because of his familiarity with the 148 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Shane Stike in offense, I believe it was some six 149 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: years that Rivers played in that offense, that that's the 150 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: reason why it's him above all others that are being 151 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: thrust into this situation. But I think you'd see a 152 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: lot of desperate teams if they're down to their fourth 153 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: quarterback after the trade deadline. 154 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody's going to expect any depth at number four 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: for sure. This is crazy where the bad luck that 157 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: Indianapolis has had. But let me ask you about the 158 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: injury work that came out the other day. Because Jalen 159 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: Sundale Hugh back full participant in practice, I mean just 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: getting him back. I'm assuming that you think he's a 161 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: better option than big Olu, But how much of an 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: upgrade is it if Jalen Sundale can actually go in 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: this game. 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, he's certainly a better athlete. I think he's a 165 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: better center. I think that he's a smart guy. I 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: don't want to get over my skis and make proclamations 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: about the communication and how the unit plays better because 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: of his communication, But I think it's a fair inference 169 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: when you look at how they played it as a group. 170 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he was a reason there was 171 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: a reason why he was the starter, and if you 172 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: get him back, you want him back. Now, he still 173 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: has the deficiency that he's he's a little bit weak 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: in terms of when he has to encounter bull rushes. 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: His outright strength is his biggest minus. But the athleticism 176 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: pieces is deaf only an upgrade and so if he's 177 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: in there, I think that you're gonna have a better center. 178 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: Hugh Devin Witherspoon is the highest rated PFF player in 179 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 5: the entire NFL this past week, and he's the highest 180 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: defensive back on the season at a ninety point eight. Now, 181 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: he hasn't played in all the games, but when he 182 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 5: has played, has he played like an All pro in 183 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 5: your mind? 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: Like PFF describes him. 185 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't run from that. I think that, you know, 186 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: he's played much more outside and I think that that's smart. 187 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: You know, he while he's got the feistiness, I mean, 188 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: he you know, he's like I've got a My wife 189 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: likes French bulldogs and it turns out they're a really 190 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: cool breath. But our little frenchie man, he hasn't looked 191 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: in the mirror. You know, he thinks he's a Rottwiler 192 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: and and you know that's his mentality. And he's the 193 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: alpha dog over the our other dog who's much bigger 194 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: than him. And so I think that Witherspoon, you know, 195 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: he has not checked the scale. He doesn't know he's 196 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty one pounds. He throws his body 197 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: around like he's two twenty. Well, that's the exact weight 198 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: that Emon Worry was at the combine. So you're picking 199 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: up thirty nine pounds by having even Worry. I'm just 200 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: going combine weights thirty nine pounds by uman Worry as 201 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: your Nicol sam as opposed to to Witherspoon. So you 202 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: push Witherspoon out outside. There's nothing he can't do. He's 203 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: got the athleticism, he's got the temperament. There's you know, 204 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: his his feistiness shows up on outside, you know, bubble screens, 205 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: toss plays, stretch plays, like he's gonna come up and 206 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna throw his body around. So but then he 207 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: can cover. You know, Dave wasn't in a week or 208 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: two ago. You get he said, man, I don't remember 209 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: Witherspoon making any plays. And we're like, yeah, that's a 210 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: good thing. Right out of sight, out of mind. 211 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: If if a cry said that, I never said that. 212 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: I said that about Witherspoon, Well we're talking spoon man. 213 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Whatever it was, Well, that's weird. You know, maybe maybe 214 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: I manufactured it. In my mind. I thought we were 215 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: I thought we were both agreen that Witherspoon, that that 216 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: he had a quiet game, and that that was a 217 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: good thing. 218 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 5: You and I talked, You and I last week talked 219 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 5: about Woollen and said that. 220 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, maybe I don't know that. 221 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: You know what, I say. A lot of things here 222 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: that I forget. So it's certainly a chance that I'm 223 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: older than Philip Rivers. So yeah, I get it, man, 224 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: I mean I don't. I don't remember the last question 225 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: I asked you for crying out loud versus what I 226 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: said a week ago on the radio show. 227 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: But you just go with it. You said it. 228 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we agreed. 229 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I said what what I did say. 230 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: I know this a couple of days ago, is that 231 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: I think that Seahawks fans should be talking about winning 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: a Lombardi now, not next year, not in two years, 233 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: for now. I think in Mike McDonald's second year, people 234 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: should be talking about the Seahawks winning a title? 235 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: Why not? 236 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: Why wait? Right? I mean sometimes you got to go 237 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: just just put on the gas, no brakes, and and uh, 238 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: I think that the NFL is right. I mean, who's 239 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: the one team if it's not Seattle. You know, I 240 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: can look at Vegas odds just like you can. 241 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 242 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: You know, I guess the Rams, the Eagles if they 243 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: ever turn things around. Are the Patriots the best team 244 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: in the AFC? I don't know who's the best team 245 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: in the AFC, but sure I think that it's all 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: about just peaking. And I do think that there's issues 247 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: with the offensive line that are ultimately their biggest challenge 248 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: to deal with that. But you still got another month 249 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: to to try and get your house in order in 250 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: that regard, and and of course a week from last 251 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: night is going to be, you know, the big test. 252 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I agree with that sentiment absolutely. There's 253 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: no reason to not say why not us. 254 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: I saw a price tag attached to Ken Walker for 255 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: the first time today, and the estimate was four years 256 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: between nine and ten dollars per year. If the Seahawks 257 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 5: wanted to do that, I can tell what Softy's response 258 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: to that is, get it what do you think you. 259 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably probably out on that, and it's not 260 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: because I am not a believer in his talent and 261 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: that I'm not a believer that he's by far the 262 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: most skilled running back that's been on the roster for 263 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: the last few ever since he's been on the team. Really, 264 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that they've used him exactly the way 265 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen him use now 266 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: if they were load managing and managing rather because of 267 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: his ankle, I'll take that fact into consideration, but I 268 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: think that they've just kind of distributed the load too 269 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: much to warrant that type of price. And of course 270 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: he's getting older, and you don't, you know, sell your 271 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: truck while it's still running, right, And I think with 272 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: running backs they can fall off hard. So I've probably 273 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: would be against it, But I sure do admire his talent. 274 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: When you see him just do things that he often 275 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: does by the way, you know, you look and just 276 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: say on a pretty regular basis, you go, there's nobody 277 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: on the Seahawks you can do that, right, And it 278 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: may only be a one or two yard game, but 279 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: he didn't have a two yard loss, and you're just saying, whoa, 280 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: that's kind of breathtaking. 281 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel huge, not interrupted, But I want 282 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: to get this before the break what you just said. 283 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: We got like one minute here about how the Hawks 284 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: aren't using him properly, and I totally agree with that. 285 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: It just seems like every coordinator they've got, they're not 286 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: able to figure it out, right, Like they kind of 287 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: weren't able to figure it out with Dk Metcalf. 288 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: But DK's gone. 289 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: And I just look at Kenny Walker and I see 290 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: a guy that should be catching. 291 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: Fifty balls a year out of the backfield for the Hawks. 292 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: I don't get it. 293 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get down. I think that he's the 294 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: better runner. I mean, you look at his explosive rate. 295 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: It's far higher. So it's just kind of rolling dice 296 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: and the chance that it comes up with a big 297 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: play is far higher. And and so now you're gonna 298 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: let him walk and then all of a sudden you're 299 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: gonna say to me, well, how do you feel about 300 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: the starting tailback? 301 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: Right? 302 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: You know is and and uh you know, to me, 303 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: Zach Charbonney, if he's your your starting tailback, that's that 304 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: that that thrust into a a primary like you know, 305 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: mandatory upgrade position in the offseason. 306 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can argue they need an upgrade anyway. Right, 307 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: if they're not going to be able to figure out Canaine, 308 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: then they might want to go in the draft and 309 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: get somebody else anyway. 310 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 4: Hugh, hang on, we got more coming up. We want 311 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: to get to. 312 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: We got to get your thoughts on the Sharon Moore 313 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: situation obviously at Michigan. Uh that vacancy, Jed's potential candidacy, 314 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: Klein de bores potential candidacy. 315 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 4: All that and more with Hugh Mellan. 316 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: We continue life from Tom's watch Bar across from Climate 317 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: Pledge Arena on a Friday, Cracking Mammoth pregame five thirty 318 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: face Off at six On ninety three three kJ RFM. 319 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Now back a football friv age sponsored by Tito's Handmade 320 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: Vodka on your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety. 321 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: Three point three FL. I'll want to jump right into it. 322 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 3: Uh here, we just had a little bit of a 323 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: debate off the air based on the Devin Witherspoon thing. 324 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: It just kind of popped into my brain. 325 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: I was looking at the twenty twenty three draft and 326 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: I'm just curious if you can go back and do 327 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: it all over again two years ago, who would you 328 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 3: rather have on the Seahawks. He's John Robinson or Devin Witherspoon. 329 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: I think I'll still be wrestling with that question twenty 330 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: four hours from now. I the reason I I just 331 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: don't want to close my eyes and see a team 332 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: without Witherspoon, not just because of how he plays, but 333 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: I think that his competitive nature is so infectious, and 334 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: so I just it's like a non starter for me. 335 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: But then Bijon Robinson, I think is the best running 336 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: back in football, and I can't imagine how much better 337 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: they'd be with the best running back in football. But 338 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: I don't think they've used Kenneth Walker, who's the top 339 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: five potential talent, the same way. I don't know. I 340 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: don't know. I'll give you the worst answering radio I hack. 341 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: My strongest take is you shouldn't have a strong take 342 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: on that one, because there's you should be really close 343 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: either way. 344 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: What do you think about it? We can chew on 345 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 3: it next writing. All right, how's that wen? We have 346 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: more time? 347 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: Go ahead here? 348 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 5: Moving on to college football. I mean, we've seen a 349 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 5: lot of scandals in college football. We've seen a lot 350 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 5: of coaches fired for different reasons, but I mean this. 351 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: Might take the cake. 352 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 5: Man, where is your mind at when you see the 353 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: picture of Sharon Moore in a basically solitary confinement right 354 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: now with his hands behind. 355 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's so appalling. There is a moral dimension to 356 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: the being a head coach. I just think back when 357 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: I was twenty years old starting for the Huskies and 358 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: the level of respect I had for Don James was immeasurable. 359 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Sharon wore. What a stunning lapse in character for this man. 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's the forbidden fruit. You know, you 361 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: can't dip your ink in. You know you're penning the 362 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: company inc. 363 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: We all know this. 364 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: And I don't know what high cost, high price, high 365 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: class hookers cost, but they sure as hell don't cost 366 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: what Sharon Maer just cost himself financially. And then when 367 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: you considered a far more important cost, here's a man 368 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: who has three daughters, all under the age of seven. 369 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: Google is still going to be around when they're fourteen 370 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: and seventeen and twenty seven and thirty. Like the rest 371 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: of their lives, They're going to know exactly what their 372 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: father did and for him to have have taken the 373 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: University of Michigan. If you said to me, you have 374 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 2: to take a piece of paper right a line right 375 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: down the middle, and you say, Okay, on one side 376 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: is academic rating, and then the other side is is 377 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: athletic accomplishments, heavily weighted towards football first and men's basketball second. 378 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: I would argue submit to you the University of Michigan 379 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: in that calculus is the number one institution in the country. 380 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: They have won more games than any school in the 381 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: history of college football. They are a premier academic institution. 382 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: Google it. I think most people know this. Michigan. You 383 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: did this at You had the head coaching job at Michigan, 384 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: and you did this. 385 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 5: Ye. 386 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: Look, I certainly there's an empathy that I have for 387 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: the choice that he made. But he did this all himself, 388 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: and he knew, he knew the consequences. He didn't he 389 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: didn't value the unbelievable position that he was in and 390 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: the responsibility they had. I think it's just a stunning 391 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: failure of of personal character. 392 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they literally hundreds, if not thousand people that 393 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 3: will be impacted by this, right, I mean, uh, you know, 394 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: the the domino effect of all the coaches and staffers, 395 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: family members that will have to move when a new 396 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: team or new coach takes over. And it's it's insane 397 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: the impact this is going to have on people. And 398 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: now you know, Jetfish's name is on some lists. A 399 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: lot of lists have him as the favorite to be 400 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: the new coach at Michigan. A lot of people are 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: mentioning Kaitlin de Bore. I mean, you tell me, man, what. 402 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: What do you think? Who do you think fills that gig? 403 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not in any position to report anything. You 404 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: leave that to the chefters of the world. But I 405 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: do find credible the reports that that the Jetfish has, 406 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: you know, had interests in Florida, has interest in Michigan. 407 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: I think if Michigan wanted him and offered him the job, 408 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: but I think he'd take it. Again, I don't, I don't. 409 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: I don't have anything other than just kind of, you know, 410 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: a hunch and kind of based on kind of what 411 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: you hear and and and so here let. 412 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: Me jump in for a quick second. 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 3: Do you think though, because Dick and I have discussed, 414 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: I think you would I agreed Dick that Michigan would 415 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: have to go pretty far down their list before they 416 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: would offer that job to Jed. 417 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: Do you believe that? 418 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just kind of, you know, put 419 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: your ear to the railroad and see, Okay, who are 420 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: the ones that all these schools are looking at. I mean, 421 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: first of all, there's already been a lot of hirings, 422 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, so it's kind of like you know the 423 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: table at Nordstrom's where you know, the all the sweaters 424 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: are all messed up because everything's been picked over, and 425 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: the coaching candidates for this year, this cycle of vacancies, 426 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: they've been picked over, and yet I still think, you know, 427 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: Jed's kind of at the bottom of the sweater pile 428 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: for most of these teams. Not that he wants to be, 429 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: but yeah, I think at this point it would surprise me. 430 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: But look, he had success to some degree as an 431 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: offensive coach at Michigan, and and I'm sure that there 432 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: are some at Michigan that would like to see him, 433 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, given his accomplishments. What he did at Arizona 434 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: was pretty impressive. What he's done at Washington, I would 435 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: say he's more or less on track. He's you know, 436 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: but he's not thrust to the top of these lists 437 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: because when people do a little digging, they say, well, 438 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: you haven't really done it against the quality teams, and 439 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: until we see that, we're not going to get excited 440 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: about you. 441 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 5: Well as Kaylan at the top of the sweater list, 442 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 5: because I can't honestly, I can't think of a better 443 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 5: fit in college football right now than Kailin de Boor 444 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: from Michigan. 445 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: I certainly would think so. And of course he's from 446 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: that general region of the country, and so yeah, I 447 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: would think that all the reports that we've read that 448 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: KDB is the number one target, sure, and I think 449 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: his buyout is yeah, right, is five six million? You know, 450 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: when we're talking about you know, the sums of money 451 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: that LSU has swallowed in Texas, A and M and 452 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: some of these other schools, that that just seems like pennies, right, 453 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I would think that that would be something 454 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: you know, Michigan would love to at least make Kaylen 455 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: de Bor turn you down, right. 456 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you fired up for the LA ball tomorrow. 457 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: Uh not really, not really. I mean we've seen Washington 458 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: against Boise State. I don't you know, I think that 459 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: Bulls have lost even more of their relevance with the 460 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: growth of the playoffs. You know, I think it's it's 461 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: it's good practice for the twenty twenty sixth season. That's 462 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: about all I'll say. You know, gone are the days 463 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: where the players are really impressed by the swag bag 464 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: because that was kind of the only compensation you got, right, 465 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: you know, Now they're being compensated in ways that are 466 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 2: more commensate to what they're bringing to the institutions. So 467 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: I think that this just kind of I bet you 468 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: one thing the players. The thing they like about this 469 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: is the date because they can just get this over 470 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: with and then they have their holidays, as opposed to 471 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: dragging things out and having to practice all the way through. 472 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: You know, if you played, like say January second or 473 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: January third, in some bowl like this, and you're still 474 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: on the company time through Christmas and New Year's I 475 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: think the players would say, eh, you know, can't we 476 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: play this thing earlier? Well, guess what, the husky gets 477 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: played earlier. I think that's good for the players. They 478 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: might not say it publicly, but I bet that's the 479 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: aggregate refrain and sentiment among the team. 480 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: So does the outcome of the bowl game move you 481 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 5: at all regarding the level of success that this season had, 482 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 5: the trajectory of the program, or is it just literally 483 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: a nothing burger? 484 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: No, No, Well, I think you have more to lose 485 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: than the game. If you lose the Boise State, I 486 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: think that's a worse look than beating them, so in 487 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: that sense, right, but you know, the next step is 488 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: now the offense. Now, the defense has been fantastic, way 489 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: better than I would have thought. But offensively, and Jetfish 490 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: is the play caller and Demon Williams is the most 491 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: high profile guy. They together they literally I'm not going 492 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: to go through the numbers again, but I can support 493 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: with numbers. I can support this claim. Jetfish in his 494 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: offense and Demond Williams the quarterback, they drop more in 495 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: their performance versus the lower defenses and then playing the 496 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: better defenses the bottom twenty of which the five wins 497 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: in conference were against bottom twenty defenses in Power four 498 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: versus the four losses which we're all in top twenty five. 499 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: When you run those numbers, Washington, they their performance suffers 500 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: more than any other team in Power four, And so 501 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: that really gets my attention. Is so it's like, hey, 502 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: until we see you do it against good teams. You know, 503 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: the idea that you throw with a minute and a 504 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: half to go against the Cougars and you throw the 505 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: ball forty five yards down the field and get a touchdown, 506 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: and then you want to bark about the stats at 507 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: the end of the year, loh or this and that 508 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: in the country and this and no, no, no, no, no, let's 509 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: where are you against the good teams and and so yeah, 510 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't think Boise State's gonna 511 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: move me. Yeah, yeah, unless they lose it. That that 512 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: would that would that would move me. It's like, what 513 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: the hell just happen? 514 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: Great stuff, man, We will talk next week, buddy. Enjoy 515 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: the weekend, Enjoy the game tomorrow. All right, we'll talk 516 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: humber Down. 517 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Enjoy it. 518 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: You're telling with us. 519 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: By the way, you know, the Big ten was talking 520 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: about a private equity deal a few weeks ago. Yeah, 521 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: that kind of fell apart, right, sounds like the Big 522 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 3: twelve is doing it a private equity deal that it's 523 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: going to put five hundred million dollars into the conference. 524 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: So you saw Utah struck a deal the other day 525 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: with a private equity for what the Big ten was 526 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: talking about doing the Big twelve. Apparently is now going 527 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: to do. This is gonna happen to everybody. Everyone's gonna 528 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: start bringing in private partners. And I think, Frankly, Dick, 529 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 3: I think it's the precursor to college football going totally 530 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: away from the NCAA. Yes, and do we You and 531 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: I waking up one day and actually seeing football players 532 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: that play for Washington that don't go to Washington. 533 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 4: Watch it happen. I'm telling you