WEBVTT - Ken Broo Saturday -- 12/13/25

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<v Speaker 1>On news radio seven hundred w Welwue. It is upon us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is some biblical stuff that's happening. It

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<v Speaker 1>is falling from the sky as we speak. It is

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<v Speaker 1>white death. And I'll tell you, I know we're in trouble. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're in big trouble. Now go find toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper at Kroger. It's an interesting reaction we have here

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati to snow falling. Maybe it's the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the streets don't get cleared as quickly as they short,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's the fact that drivers don't drive the

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<v Speaker 1>way they should have. Maybe a lot of reasons. But

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<v Speaker 1>the minute we see things falling from the sky like

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Randy's dandruff, we tend to panic. And my guess is,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere out there right now, hopefully not you, there are

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<v Speaker 1>people with white knuckled grips on their steering wheels. All

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you is this, remain calm. Everything is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in charge pending the Vice President's return. And welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to another Saturday afternoon. A lot of pertinent things going on,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the way. We have uce basketball coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Airtime is at one thirty. That's what we lead into

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe today one might just keep one's fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe today you see will actually beat a named opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in Georgia to take on the Georgia Bulldogs. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear all the play by play action Dan Horde and

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Nelson. A lot of things that are percolating around

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<v Speaker 1>the world today, like this Venezuela stuff. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>about this Venezuela stuff. Trump's blowing up boats. They're drug boats,

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<v Speaker 1>they's cigar boats. Anything that knows anything about boating knows

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<v Speaker 1>that these aren't just some guys out on the high

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<v Speaker 1>seas look into cast a line and catch some grouper.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's been blowing up these boats. The Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>all upset about it, not because they care about Venezuelan

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<v Speaker 1>fishermen or even drug cartels in Venezuela. They just want

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<v Speaker 1>something that can get Trump, because that's all they've really

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<v Speaker 1>been about since twenty fifteen. Get Trump, Stop Trump, Orange

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<v Speaker 1>Man bad. So we got Venezuela and boats, we got

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<v Speaker 1>seizing of Venezuela and oil tanker to mix in with

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<v Speaker 1>other things like rounding up gang members MS thirteen gang members.

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<v Speaker 1>That infuriates Democrats, not really, it's just another reason to

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<v Speaker 1>get Trump. It's kind of like the Jeffrey Epstein Files.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more things in there about Democrats than Republicans. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so many rakes you can step on and

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<v Speaker 1>hit your groin with before it starts to hurt. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>they're on Trump about this Venezuelan drug war and how

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to take out Maduro and could there be

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<v Speaker 1>a chance that we, as the United States people that

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<v Speaker 1>represent us, you know, the CIA, coelt whatever it may be,

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<v Speaker 1>actually go into Venezuela and take out Medora, who of

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<v Speaker 1>course operates at the behest of the drug kings in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Phillip is about to join us. You say, ken,

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<v Speaker 1>who is Joshua Philip. It's one of the great investigative

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<v Speaker 1>reporters of our time. He works for The Times and

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<v Speaker 1>Epic Times TV, has produced many, many different documentaries. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a new one that's out. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>in just a second. But Joshua Philip is somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>knows exactly what's going on in South America and what

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<v Speaker 1>this Venezuelan government is up to. So I've asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to join us here on this day to talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and he's kind enough to give us some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joshua Philip, how are you on this glorious.

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday doing well?

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<v Speaker 3>An interesting step to watch, I can say.

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<v Speaker 1>That absolutely more than interesting. What do you think Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is up to in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>So I predicted it and then it came out the

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<v Speaker 3>new National Security Plan and Secretary of warp Tex have

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<v Speaker 3>set it publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is about the re establishment of the of the

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<v Speaker 3>Monroe doctrine. And I think we saw the examples of

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<v Speaker 3>this because you know it started after blowing up the

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<v Speaker 3>drug cartel boats. There's more context to that. Actually that

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<v Speaker 3>actually ties into Venezuela having been on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 3>invading Guyana just literally a couple months when they started

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<v Speaker 3>bombing those boats. The latest one, though, is the intercept

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<v Speaker 3>of this Iranian oil tanker that was violating sanctions and

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<v Speaker 3>trading in oil. And so I think what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>now is they're not just going after like Venezuelan drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>They're going after the core parts of the Venezuelan unofficial

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<v Speaker 3>economy and what really matters. In the new National Security Plan,

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<v Speaker 3>they've announced that the Trump administration will once again be

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<v Speaker 3>enforcing them in row doctor, which means Latin America, no

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<v Speaker 3>foreign countries involved if you're not there, so Europe, China, Russia, Iran,

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<v Speaker 3>no involvement in Latin America. And the interesting thing with

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<v Speaker 3>Venezuela is that Venezuela under sorry Hugo Java is and

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<v Speaker 3>now Maduro being of course Javas is pick was he

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<v Speaker 3>hand picked him. Chavez actually was the one, working with

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<v Speaker 3>Fidel Castro on Cuba who pushed the United States out

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<v Speaker 3>of the read And the way they did it was

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<v Speaker 3>they established regional like pseudo powers like organizations of states

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<v Speaker 3>that did not involve the United States or Canada. So really,

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<v Speaker 3>toppling what Venezuela has come to represent in Latin America

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<v Speaker 3>would be the very first step necessary to re establish

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<v Speaker 3>the Monroe doctrine.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The Monroe doctrine has been around for over two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years, so named after President James Monroe, who basically

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<v Speaker 1>told the rest of the world, look, if you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about colonizing any of the Americas, forget about it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not your territory. Okay, got that, But I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what Trump's endgame is with all of this

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<v Speaker 1>is what is his endgame.

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<v Speaker 3>The endgame I think is power shift in power. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what's really interesting with Venezuela and Maduro. Even

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<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration had this policy and I should built

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<v Speaker 3>the National Security Plan. I mean huge bipartisan support. It's

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<v Speaker 3>probably going to get past. In fact, Democrat Demopupkins in

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<v Speaker 3>the House joined pretty heavily to pass it. Even when

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<v Speaker 3>Biden was president, they were talking about power change in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>They said publicly they did not recognize him as the

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<v Speaker 3>official leader of the country. They said, he's the leader

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<v Speaker 3>of the Cartel of the Suns, which is a terrorist organization,

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<v Speaker 3>which means that they could justifiably do a target strike

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, navy seals.

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<v Speaker 2>Rate or something and kill him.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's also a government in waiting for Venezuela, which

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<v Speaker 3>both Trump and Biden have acknowledged. In fact, the transition

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<v Speaker 3>government in waiting. The guy lives in Florida at Sjuanglido,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it wouldn't mean he'd be in power

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<v Speaker 3>per se, but they have a process already established because

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<v Speaker 3>of again the twenty eighteen elections in Venezuela, mass protests,

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<v Speaker 3>and they believe there's enough popular support for that that

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<v Speaker 3>toppling Maduro would not be a difficult process.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Meduro is in power. The only people that

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<v Speaker 1>want Maduro in power right now appear to be Meduro

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<v Speaker 1>and his cronies. But Trump's got something to figure out here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think eventually you run out of cigar boats carrying

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<v Speaker 1>drugs to blow up, and eventually there are only so

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<v Speaker 1>many tankers you can seize. So again, what's his endgame

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<v Speaker 1>here is? Is it boots on the ground in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has an appetite for that in

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela or anywhere. How does he get Meduro out of power?

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<v Speaker 1>How does he stop these cartels who basically run Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>at the behesta Maduro. How does he get those cartels

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<v Speaker 1>to stop transferring drugs up to the United States? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be some sort of plan here. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the endgame?

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<v Speaker 3>I think what they're going to do is they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to either force Maduro to step down or they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to kill him. What Because he's again having designated the

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<v Speaker 3>cartel the SUNS as both a terrorist organization and as

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<v Speaker 3>again the targeted cartel organization right, and with Maduro being

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<v Speaker 3>designated a leader of it and basically head the heads

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<v Speaker 3>of the date and military being deemed leaders of it,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're going to be watching is Maduro is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be treated like Bin Laden. He is the new

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<v Speaker 3>Bin Laden. And we don't have to engage the full

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<v Speaker 3>military to overthrow bin Laden. You just go in there,

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<v Speaker 3>rate him at you know, midnight whatever, shoot him and

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<v Speaker 3>throw them off, and throw him into the ocean like

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<v Speaker 3>you know that that could very likely happen. Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>said publicly that he will not start a war. There

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<v Speaker 3>is not going to be a full scale war. But

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<v Speaker 3>Maduro's days are numbered, and it seems he has given

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<v Speaker 3>him a will ultimatum. Step down, You're going to die.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, for better or for worse. People can

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<v Speaker 3>agree with that or not. But but now that he

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<v Speaker 3>has designated a terrorist leader, America does have the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the the clearance of say in terms of like war

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<v Speaker 3>you know, laws and so on to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm just playing through the political ramifications of

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<v Speaker 1>this scenario if it does come to pass. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the Democrats right now, uh, exactly where Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wants them. They have sided with the narco terrorist squad.

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<v Speaker 1>They're embracing MS thirteen gang members. I can't, for the

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<v Speaker 1>life of me believe that that's what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what they want to do. Now, if he

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<v Speaker 1>goes into Venezuela and either the CIA or Navy seals

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<v Speaker 1>take out Maduro, I can't imagine what the Democrats would

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<v Speaker 1>react to there. You can't necessarily, if you're a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say, hey, Maduro's our guy. You know this? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what is he doing now?

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<v Speaker 4>There?

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<v Speaker 1>He can't blow up our guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>You know I wouldn't do. Okay, this is where I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's going to go. You're going to see the

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<v Speaker 3>media make a stink about it, without a doubt they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to make you know, they're going to be indignant politically.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's going to come out very quickly

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<v Speaker 3>that this was also Biden's policy. Maybe not kill Maduro,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Biden administration just before the twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>elections was basically saying they're going to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were talking openly.

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<v Speaker 3>About forcing a regime change in Venezuela. Now does that

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<v Speaker 3>mean killing him?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, killing Maduro?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But under.

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<v Speaker 3>Under the Bide administration that this was also the policy,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the Trump administration could easily drag that

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<v Speaker 3>back out.

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<v Speaker 2>And make that case.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, the media these days, they just want

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<v Speaker 3>to they want to scandal, regardless of history, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to make a big deal about it, of course, regardless,

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<v Speaker 3>especially right before the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the media these days, particularly those that cover Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d c. Are populated by people who think they are

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<v Speaker 1>the next Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward, when in essence

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't find Karl Bernstein or Bob Woodward on a map.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does serve another purpose here. If indeed he

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<v Speaker 1>does this, and he goes into Venezuela, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a warning shot across the bowl of any of these

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<v Speaker 1>South American countries who are in essence run by drug

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<v Speaker 1>cartels himself to let's the nonsense is over. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>we're not playing that game anymore. So maybe therein is

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<v Speaker 1>another aspect of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he on that and so on that point,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump as we speak, is also threatening the president of Columbia,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's even threatening Mexico. And I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if you'd go and you know, do targeted strikes

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<v Speaker 3>as the president of Mexico, you know that'd be pretty shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you remember when Trump was on the campaign traw,

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<v Speaker 3>he was saying he was going to do this. This

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<v Speaker 3>was part of Trump's campaign promise. And what do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>He did a very long video.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking it was at least I think fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was very long, and he laid out his

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<v Speaker 3>plan to use the entire US military, every power they had,

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence networks, US Navy, targeted strikes, airstrikes, special forces, raids,

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<v Speaker 3>all of this, he said to destroy the drug cartels.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he was going to do everything we now

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<v Speaker 3>see him being done. And in addition to that, he

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<v Speaker 3>said that if any government tries to stop him, he

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<v Speaker 3>will expose the ties of that government to the cartels,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, Maduro is the first example of and

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<v Speaker 3>Trump right now has made that an open threat. And

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<v Speaker 3>the unfortunate part for a lot of those government of

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<v Speaker 3>Latin Americas, a lot of them are tied to the

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<v Speaker 3>cartails in one way or another. And if Trump says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know he likes to tell the story

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<v Speaker 3>where he's talking to this like terrorist guy, and he

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<v Speaker 3>shows him a picture of his house, you know, from

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<v Speaker 3>the sky, and he's like, mister Trump, why do you

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<v Speaker 3>show me a picture of my house? He says, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're gonna have to put two and two

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<v Speaker 3>together on that one, you know. But he's basically doing

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing to most of the Latin American governments effectively.

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<v Speaker 3>And on that point too, a lot of people say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't Trump just pardon you know, the fore of the

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<v Speaker 3>former presidents. I believe it was his Honduras I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>who is also arrested on drug charges. That ties into

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<v Speaker 3>what I said earlier. This is about the re establish

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<v Speaker 3>him to the Monroe doctrine. Part of it is about drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>but the bigger context of it is Trump has tried,

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<v Speaker 3>he is trying to establish loyalist leaders to America within

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<v Speaker 3>the Latin American region to begin again re establishing US

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<v Speaker 3>presents throughout the whole region and then from there dismantling

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<v Speaker 3>criminal networks. Is establishing kind of an American answer to

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese Belt and Roade initiative, meeting infrastructure projects and

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<v Speaker 3>begin changing the region effectively.

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Philip ark Gass he is the senior investigative reporter

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<v Speaker 1>at the Epic Times, and among other things, he produces

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of documentaries for the Epic Times. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new one, right, what's this one all about?

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<v Speaker 3>The latest line that is actually on Charlie Kirk and

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<v Speaker 3>how the media framed him. It's called it's called Truth

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<v Speaker 3>under Fire, the Framing of Charlie Kirk. And I've been

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<v Speaker 3>quite I've been quite a few other documentaries. I've even

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<v Speaker 3>of course gone down to gone down to actually Panama,

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<v Speaker 3>the Darien Gap to the ember Indian villages, tracked the

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<v Speaker 3>entire migrant flow system and exposed how the United Nations

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<v Speaker 3>has been running it. They have a program called the

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<v Speaker 3>Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and something else Migration and

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<v Speaker 3>basically paid for by the State Department. That documentary I

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<v Speaker 3>had is also available on Epic TV. It's called it's

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<v Speaker 3>called Weapons of Mass Migration.

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<v Speaker 1>And that debut is when.

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<v Speaker 3>That one's already out, as is the Charlie Kirk one,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can find those on epictv dot com, epochtv

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<v Speaker 3>dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where Joshua is also not only a senior investigative

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<v Speaker 1>reporter but also the host of Crossroads, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrific news and analysis program on EPICTV. Okay, when does

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<v Speaker 1>all of this in Venezuela come to a head? When

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<v Speaker 1>do we get either Maduro out or Trump puts his

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<v Speaker 1>head on a platter. How quickly or how soon does

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<v Speaker 1>all of this play out? In your opinion?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 3>The way Trump is talking, you could say any day now.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also the chance if he believes it could harm

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<v Speaker 3>the Republicans during the mid terms there maybe he'll wait

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<v Speaker 3>till afterwards, or maybe he'll think it'll be strategically valuable

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<v Speaker 3>to do it before. I think, I actually think opinion

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<v Speaker 3>polls in terms of the media hit pieces Trump blowing up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fishing boats, fishing boats by the way, they

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<v Speaker 3>like semi submersibles or like four engine you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>know rocket jets, and you know, of course big engines

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<v Speaker 3>painted blue, so they blend into the ocean and they

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<v Speaker 3>have no fishing equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>But you beside the point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's modern journalism. I think opinion polls left and form.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether he thinks it's good to do it now or

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<v Speaker 3>wait a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the always unpredictable President Donald J. Trump, the predictable

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Philip and I will predict that he is working

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<v Speaker 1>on his next documentary even as we speak. That's for

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<v Speaker 1>the future. Joshua, for your time today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, We appreciate it always, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You bet, yep, you bet.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't sound like any of this is going to curtailed.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump can't imagine boots on the ground. He doesn't want that,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't believe in it, any campaign, actually against the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thought of the United States going into a foreign country.

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<v Speaker 1>But nevertheless, there is something that's at foot here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's at foot is the Ouster of Maduro.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned. Like many things, it could all turn on

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<v Speaker 1>a dime. It is now twelve to twenty six, as

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<v Speaker 1>the snow continues to fall, and we all brace, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>cowering in a corner, wondering if it's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>us on seven hundred WLW is just a warning. But tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to the Bengals game, kickoff at one o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have a temperature of ten degrees ten

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<v Speaker 1>degrees wind show much worse than that. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens turned the ball over what like a million times. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that. There it was like five times when

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<v Speaker 1>they met a couple of weeks ago. There's Ravens quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson on all of that, and what they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Turn over free number one, you know, protecting the ball, uh,

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<v Speaker 5>putting a lot of points on the board. Because we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't do that either. We got unfortunately we had to

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<v Speaker 5>didn't happen two more, you know, on top of the

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen we have, but it didn't happen. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 5>forward to sc go on more points this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look forward to it too much, Lamar. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's twelve forty three, but as you and I

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<v Speaker 1>both know, it's five o'clock. Somewhere. There's one for you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one for me. Oh there's there's one for the ages.

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<v Speaker 2>Pop the top again.

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<v Speaker 1>You're smuggling in the good stuff, aren't you today.

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<v Speaker 6>I've just got time for one more round.

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<v Speaker 1>Set them up, my friend, and then what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Then I'll be gone and you can lest some other.

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<v Speaker 1>Pool to sit. Yeah, well we'll see. All I know

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<v Speaker 1>is you see basketball on the horizon beginning at at

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<v Speaker 1>one thirty today. Oh hang on a second, let me

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<v Speaker 1>play this for you. Hear this song. This is Ariana

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<v Speaker 1>Grande's remake of the Wham Song. Last Christmas. The Wham

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<v Speaker 1>Song wasn't all that great and this thing is a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of Yeah, it does have a distinction though. According

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<v Speaker 1>to a group called Bader Law, this song is the

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<v Speaker 1>most distracting Christmas song you can have playing in your

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<v Speaker 1>car when you're out on the roadway. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>beats per minute, and if a song has in excess

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<v Speaker 1>of like one hundred beats per minute, you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>This one has two hundred and five point nine beats

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<v Speaker 1>permitted and over and above that. It's Ariana Grande singing.

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<v Speaker 1>But nevertheless, it is one of the top ten most

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<v Speaker 1>distracting Christmas songs that are out there, and you should

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<v Speaker 1>not be listening to them if you want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>accident free on the highways this holiday season. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other songs on there that are kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>One is Christmas Dream by Perry Como. The other is

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<v Speaker 1>The Most Wonderful Time of the Year by Andy Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the most distracting song that you can

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<v Speaker 1>listen to if you're out on the highways this Christmas season.

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<v Speaker 1>So why so and what does it actually do to

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<v Speaker 1>our brain? Well, when it comes to the brain, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no better authority than my next guest. He is doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Porter, expert in brain health and the purveyor of

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<v Speaker 1>a group called brain tap dot com. Kind enough to

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<v Speaker 1>give us some time here about driving listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and what it can do to you in your

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<v Speaker 1>car and doctor Porter, how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. It's a great day to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it is. It's well, it's a great day to

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<v Speaker 1>be anywhere, to be truth about it. Yeah, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen this report. Do you put any merit into it? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a few reasons for it. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's faster beats per minute what they're talking about, if

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<v Speaker 1>they get into high beta, they're going to create anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>mil per, nephrone, cortisol don't mean all these things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be triggered. And if you don't and then

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<v Speaker 1>you put together you know, a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>of the holidays, of course as joyful people, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>more suicides during their holidays than any other time, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of negatives too. People have a loss,

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<v Speaker 1>they start thinking about things and if your mind gets distracted.

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<v Speaker 4>We have first and second attention. So if you have

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<v Speaker 4>your first attention is you know, driving, let's say, and

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<v Speaker 4>their second attention is thinking about all this negative stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that happened during the holidays, and the songs bring up

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<v Speaker 4>a loved one units something like that, and then you

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<v Speaker 4>switch attention and you become less aware of what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>of what going on in the world within your mind,

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<v Speaker 4>and your brain can't tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So if all these if all of these Christmas songs

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<v Speaker 1>are doing that, it would stand a reason the eleven

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<v Speaker 1>months out of the year you should not be listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Metallica as you drive a car. Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean I wouldn't recommend that

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<v Speaker 4>at any time, but because I've seen what it does,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess when you're working out or you're doing something

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<v Speaker 4>where you want to be just a crazy animal or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, because my dad used to call it

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<v Speaker 4>zeta brainwaves, you know, because it's just super hyperactive.

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<v Speaker 6>So some people are they.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, with PTSD or something like that. People they

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<v Speaker 4>we call them first responder brains. They're always on the

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<v Speaker 4>edge of their seat, They're always looking for what might happen.

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<v Speaker 4>They're looking for a way out, they're looking for who

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<v Speaker 4>might you know, you understand what I'm talking about. They

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<v Speaker 4>had a vigilant kind of brain. They operate in that zone,

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<v Speaker 4>so then they look for that kind of music. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's not healthy for the body because the body meets

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<v Speaker 4>those downtime too. It needs to have those relaxing moments

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<v Speaker 4>and rejuvenation and replenish. Now, most people, i think, get

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<v Speaker 4>us to Christmas songs while you're sitting at home and

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<v Speaker 4>you're just relaxing and with family. That's great, But sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>when you're alone, you get that melancholy because you start

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<v Speaker 4>bringing up memories of past Christmases and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now. This survey that was done by batter Law,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a law for him. It found the songs

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<v Speaker 1>between fifty and eighty fifty and eighty beats per minute

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<v Speaker 1>help people stay focused slower tempos. That creates that alpha

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<v Speaker 1>state that you were talking about, which boosts productivity and concentration.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm looking at some of the lists on

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<v Speaker 1>these ten most distracting Christmas songs. One of them is

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Dreams by Perry Como. Every song that I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>Perry Como saying it sounded like he was dead now,

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<v Speaker 1>but how can he deliver a song with one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty four point three beats per minute? Terry Como,

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<v Speaker 1>you kidd me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a little curious about that myself. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>apparently it's the music in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as singing for sure, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And what they find is that, you know, the drums

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<v Speaker 4>or the b of the symbols and all those things

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<v Speaker 4>that they do that's going to create the rhythm and

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<v Speaker 4>cadence like a metronome, and the brain is going to

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<v Speaker 4>follow them. They call it frequency following response in science.

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<v Speaker 4>So the brain is always doing that, it's always trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find the patterns. The problem here is that it

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<v Speaker 4>takes you off the patterns of life. The natural rhythm

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<v Speaker 4>of the earth is seven point eight hertz frequency, so

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<v Speaker 4>when you think about that, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy eight beats per minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, Now when you get up and goes higher ranges,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why it's so distracting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another song on this. You may not know this,

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<v Speaker 1>but at one time this radio station played music. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty thousand one radio station, Big signal all across

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<v Speaker 1>the Midwest, and somebody that got their start in their

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<v Speaker 1>careers singing on this radio station was Andy Williams. He

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<v Speaker 1>was from right now in Cincinnati. It's the most wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>time of the year.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to that song, doctor, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it does to you, but I mean, it's just uplifting

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<v Speaker 1>and it's great. But you're telling me that if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>listening to that song at two hundred and one point

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three beats per minute, which I suppose that that

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<v Speaker 1>was your heart, your entire body beyond overdrive. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact of the matter is you're telling me if I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that song, I'm more distracted than if I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to perhaps some sort of symphony from the eighteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're telling me, that's what That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>But what they're doing is though for you and me,

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<v Speaker 4>I listen to that song and I'm more focused, I'm energized,

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm ready for Christmas. You know, it brings up this

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<v Speaker 4>the energy. But some people it might cause them distraction. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't really agree with that one, but

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<v Speaker 4>there's I would have to see how they actually measured

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 4>these beats per minute, because that one seems a little

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<v Speaker 4>weird to me, because when I think of Andy Williams,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember all the Christmas specials and things like that

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<v Speaker 4>that were going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There were good family times. For me, it's a good memory. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I get the Trans Siberian Orchestra. I've interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>a number of those guys to know what they do

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a yearly basis. But by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to music while that you are driving, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying here is probably not the most ideal

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<v Speaker 1>thing right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right when when people unless you are in it, unless

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 4>it matches your concentration and focus zone. You know, one

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 4>thing they're not taking into account is that every brain

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 4>is different. So some people, if you're listening to certain music,

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 4>people will say, turn that music off. It's distracting, you know.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 4>Other people say keep the music on. Some people drive

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<v Speaker 4>with no music because they can't handle the distraction of

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 4>any noise at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's it's perfectly fine to listen to talk

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>radio well while you're driving, correct, there's no problem with that,

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>especially your show, especially your show, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me let me just ask you this. So

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>we've talked what that kind of music does to the brain.

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>We talked about how it can distract the brain driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you know you can't drive anymore anywhere, particularly in

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>this country, being distracted at all, because God knows what's

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>coming the other way at you, in what state of

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>mind somebody is driving that car. So what is the

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>best way to drive? Doctor? How do we avoid see

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to morph into something that might save

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>lives here. How do we avoid traffic accidents when we're

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<v Speaker 1>driving so that our brain is completely focused on task?

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<v Speaker 4>But I think the main thing is you know they

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 4>say we have the attention of a goldfish about five seconds.

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 4>So always change your point of view, like when we

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 4>look in the rear view mirror from side to side,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 4>we look in front of us. Always change your point

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 4>of view, but refocus because what happens is you get

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 4>distracted because you maybe you see a stop signed down

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 4>the way, but you don't see the car hitting the

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 4>brakes right in front of you. So it's about keep

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 4>your eyes moving when you're driving. You need to be vigilant,

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 4>like you said, So it is a stressfully them you know,

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people think that on airplanes or driving

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 4>an automobiles, you know, they sleep the whole way, but

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 4>then they're tired when they get there. That's because every

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 4>cell of your body is moving and you're stressed out.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 4>You're creating more cortisol in that, don't you meine I

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 4>was talking about, and neuropronaffter and all those things trigger

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 4>the wakefulness that we need in the morning. Our bodies

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 4>were not designed and especially our brain was not designed

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 4>for the technology that we're experiencing today. So we need

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 4>to just take that downtime. You know, when you get back,

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 4>when you get home from driving, take a moment, take

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 4>five minutes and do some breeding and just relax. Because

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 4>you went from one stressful event. Maybe you walk into

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 4>a house, it's another stressful event. The problem isn't the stress.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 4>The problem is that nobody's taking time for recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nobody knows how to sleep in this country. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't noticed that, doc, at least without chemical help.

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering when people go to brain tap dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. You come on the phone and you talk

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>monotonously to them until they pass out for monotony, and

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>then they fall asleep. What happens at brainsap.

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<v Speaker 4>Dot com cos Oh, No, we use sound frequencies too

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 4>beats permitted, but we're going to use earth frequencies zero

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 4>point five to eighty eight and depending upon the brain

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 4>we want to train. In the morning, we want to

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 4>train SMR to get them well woke up, to get

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 4>them going. It's about between ten cycles actually ten to

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 4>fourteen cycles per second, and then or beats per minut it.

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 4>And then when we talk about the afternoon, we want

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 4>to have a full reboot because our temperature drops at

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 4>two a pm. We're cyclic creatures. It increases two degrees

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 4>at two am, so the body is always cycling from

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 4>something called the circadian rhythm. So we reset the brain

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 4>and back in. You know when you read books. I'm

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 4>reading a book right now that was written about India.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>They never worked past two o'clock in the afternoon, and

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 4>now now we worked until eight o'clock at night.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>So we're pushing the.

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<v Speaker 4>Boundaries of our biological system and we're not taking the

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 4>time to recover.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>So the middle afternoon is really good. And then at

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>night we need to down regulate.

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 4>Just get that beats permitted as slow as possible, turn

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<v Speaker 4>off the lights, drink plenty of water two hours before

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 4>going to bed, get yourself ready for bed and cool

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 4>dark place, and just let yourself relax, you know, and

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.479
<v Speaker 4>do the breeding exercises which I've talked about on your

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 4>show before. You know, like at night those people that

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 4>aren't sleeping. Two thirds of the world, by the way,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 4>is not sleeping. Well, so when you think about that,

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 4>when you go to sleep, it's a sport.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not an activity.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow morning you're going to get up and you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to become a part of the human race, you know,

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 4>and it's a race like you get up to one

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 4>hundred yardsh and say, what do you mean I got

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 4>to run one hundred yard dash. I didn't train for this. Well,

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 4>that's your life. So at night, that's when you do

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>your training while you sleep. So breathe into the count

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 4>of four, hold that breath, breath out to the count

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<v Speaker 4>of eight, and you'll start regulating your nervous system and

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 4>teaching your body to recover. Because sleep is when you

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 4>get those superpowers you need tomorrow morning when you wake

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<v Speaker 4>up to have the energy to listen to those songs

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 4>on the radio, do the things so listen to talk radio,

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 4>process the information you need, and live the life you

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<v Speaker 4>really want.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we got a lot of people around that don't

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<v Speaker 1>work past two o'clock. You can't find them with a

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>search warn after two o'clock at this place. But nevertheless,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>doctor Patrick Porter, expert on brain health. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>him at brain tab b r A I ntap brain

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<v Speaker 1>tap dot com. Okay, you have a great holiday season

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and stop listening to that Christmas music when you drive. Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the road with you, Doc, all right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>you bet you bet? Yeah, all kinds of who. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, here's another song that'll make you

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<v Speaker 1>plowing to the guy in front of you, he says

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<v Speaker 1>good for your brain. Now driving to the guy next

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<v Speaker 1>just taking out now your host Ken Brew on News

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<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW, Snow continues to fall one thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know all, we have UC basketball live from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>As the barricades take back, Bearcats take on the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia. All the play by play right here on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW. George's pretty darn good. They they average

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred points a game. I know Xavier played

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<v Speaker 1>them to within one point a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a team that can put up points.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how the Bearcats handle them. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>warm up snow falling, let's talk baseball, Yes, let's talk baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of things that get us warmed up. Reds

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<v Speaker 1>Fest a couple of weeks away, and then of course

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they start a spring training and a new book has

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just come across my table. I have a little table here.

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Books come across and every so often I stop the

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>ones I like this. One is written by a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, Matt Snyder cbssports dot com. It's called The

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<v Speaker 1>leadoff Man, The History of the Evolution of and Fun

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>with the greatest catalyst in sports. The leadoff man maybe

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the most difficult position in a batting order to staff,

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and Matt Snyder, as I said, has done a deep

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>dive into this. His book has just come out, and

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get him on the show today, not

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>only to warm us up, but to talk about all

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of this, and he's kind enough, probably snowed in in

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>his home in Indiana, nevertheless kind enough to join us. Matt,

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>how are you on this glorious Saturday.

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<v Speaker 6>I am great. Thank you so much for having me

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<v Speaker 6>on to talk about the book.

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<v Speaker 4>I am.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ecstatic about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it fair to say that the leadoff hitter, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you go into this in your book, is

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it fair to say that the evolution of that particular

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>position is not something that has just happened recently, that

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>it began as one thing and now has evolved to

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>where it is now. Maybe speed and on base early,

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>but now it's almost a position that demands some sort

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of ability to hit for power. Am I right about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, It's covered heavily. There's a chapter on the evolution.

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 7>I go back to the eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 6>It's interesting.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 7>I talked to Major League Baseball historian John Thorne and

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 7>he said, actually, at the adjunct of the game in

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 7>the eighteen sixties and eighteen seventies, they did just hit

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 7>their best player first, because becomes the best and most

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 7>That was the logic. The turn of the century, it

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 7>changed and it became hey, you got to save your

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 7>best hitter for fourth. Now, if you go back like

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 7>Honus Wagner, ty Cop, they had the profile where they

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 7>would have been great leadoff hitters, but they hit clean

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 7>up pretty much their entire careers. And the stolen base

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 7>thing fifties sixties seventies is when it became, hey, you've

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 7>got to rack up steals from the top spot.

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 6>You had guys like.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 7>Maury Wills who didn't really get up base much at

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 7>a great cliff, but sotole a bunch of basis so

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 7>they had to hit lead up. Guys like Gary Pettis

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.399
<v Speaker 7>I talked about should never have.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 6>Bad at leadoff, but he sole basis. So we got

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 6>a bat, we got a beat leadoff.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 7>And then you know, I feel like Ricky did a

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 7>little bit in terms of the power. People started to see, hey,

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.919
<v Speaker 7>you know, this is the greatest leadoff man of all time,

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 7>and he has some power. Alfonso Soriano, I think, really

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 7>started to kind of push it. And here recently we've

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 7>seen George Springer types and now we've got I mean,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 7>Kyle Schwarmer a couple of years ago was hitting lead

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<v Speaker 7>off for the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoho Tani bad leadoff.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 7>So Ronald Lacuna Junior sitting over forty bounds in the

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 7>leadoff spot. So it's yeah, I talk about the evolution,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, Brady Anderson in the nineties had power as well.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 7>I know everybody just focuses on the one fifty homer season,

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 7>but he hit over twenty three other times, so he

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 7>had power a lot of different seasons.

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<v Speaker 6>Betting leadoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's interesting about putting your best hitter in

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the leadoffs situation that has they've

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>evolved out of it in baseball, but there was a

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>time here in Cincinnati in the mid two thousands where

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>they put Adam Dunn in the leadoff hter simply because

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>he was a guy that could hit for power and

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>at that time he was fond of, if not their

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>best leadoff hitter. Yeah, and he took his walks too.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's I go through.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a chapter where I go through and I say, like,

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<v Speaker 7>if the evolution had happened sooner, or if people were

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 7>a little bit more open minded, some players through history

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 7>that could have or even should have let off and

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.959
<v Speaker 7>Joey Voto in twenty twelve, I mean, the Reds didn't

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 7>lead him off at all, running out Zach Cozart and

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 7>is two eighty eight on base percent of hitting leadoff.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 6>And it's not like you needed to save power.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 7>I mean they had Ryan Ludwick, Jay Bruce, Todd Frazier, FRANM.

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 7>Siltz could have hit tip. I mean, they had plenty

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 7>of power. They should have just hit Botto leadoff.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 6>And that was a team that made the.

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<v Speaker 7>Playoffs Eve though they didn't go anywhere in the playoffs.

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 6>I think they could have streamlined it.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 7>So there's twenty five different guys where I run through

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 7>like that. And also you'll find this fun. I believe

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 7>I had something stuck with me.

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 6>I was when I was a little kid.

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 7>We went to a game in Cincinnati and my dad

0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 7>would throw on Wow on the way home and to

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 7>listen to the postgame show. And there was a caller

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 7>who I believe it was nineteen eighty eight, because there

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 7>was a caller who wanted to set the perfect lineup

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 7>for the Red and.

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 6>He started he said somebody.

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 7>Else other than cal Daniels, and the host pushed back

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 7>and said, wait, wait, wait, you've got to hit cal

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Daniels leadoff. He leads the league on base percentage, and

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 7>the caller was adamant that he.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 6>Had too much power and he needed to save that power.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 6>So I talk.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 7>About the mindset that was permeating throughout baseball fandom, baseball

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 7>media managers for a long time.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 6>It was hey, hey, hey, he's too good. He can't

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<v Speaker 6>bat lead off.

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<v Speaker 1>The best I thought at that position that I ever

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>saw was lou Brock, and that's just I think more

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of a of an era that I come from. But

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose hit lead off quite a bit here in Cincinnati.

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Is wondering where he would put where where would you

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>put Rose? Or where did you put Rose?

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>In?

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<v Speaker 6>I ranked that I have a ranking chapter. I ranked

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 6>the top twenty, and I also went through honorable mention

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 6>by era.

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 7>So like the dead ball era, pre integration, post integration,

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 7>predh deoid era two thousand and four to present, I

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 7>ran through over eighty five guys that I did you

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 7>know little blurbs.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 6>On in the top twenty. I expanded on each guy

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 6>a little bit.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 7>And Peter ros is easily easily in the top twenty.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 6>I'll say I'll reveal top five, okay, b lou Brock

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 6>is top ten, number one. We can spoil that because

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 6>it's easy and obvious.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>The Tree interested absolutely absolutely yep, and I think he

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>defined the position four years to come, but it's it's

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>absolutely it's so difficult for teams to find a leadoff hitter.

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned what they did here with Kozart several years ago.

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>They're still looking here for a guy that can put

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>up at the plate and get on base in essence,

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote set the table. Why is it so difficult

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>for teams? And the Reds aren't just alone on this,

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>why are they? Why is it so difficult for teams

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to find a quote unquote leadoff hitter.

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<v Speaker 7>I think for a long time there was a mindset

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 7>you have to be different when you're leading off. And

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 7>I interviewed a lot of guys about this, Mookie bet

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 7>TJ Friedel, Pete Armstrong and half George Springer, and a

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 7>lot of them said, well, I don't really change my approach.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 7>And Boba shed actually was funny because he argued with

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 7>himself for a second when I was like, hey, do

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 7>you approach your bets differently when you're cleanup hitter versus

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 7>when you're leadoff? And he was like no, well yeah, no, wait, yeah, yeah,

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 7>I think I do, and that to me comes up

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 7>why I think it's difficult because guys will say I

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 7>don't want to change anything.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 6>But when they get up there first and you're the

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 6>first batter of.

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 7>The game, or you're supposed to be setting the table,

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 7>I think there is a change in mindset, like, hey,

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm supposed to be a table setter, so I'm supposed

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 7>to be more patient here. And that's why you see

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 7>leadoff hitters take more pitches than most other guys in

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 7>the batting order. Now, the truly great ones are was

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 7>attacking the first pitch. George Springer, for example, he's great

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 7>at sneak attacking with the first pitch or deciding to

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 7>take it every once in a while. I talked to

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 7>Dexter Fowler about it and he said he was the

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 7>same way, like he generally would try to take pitches,

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 7>but every once in a while he'd get in his

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 7>head like, hey, I'm going to sneak attack him on

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 7>the first pitch here because he thinks that it's going

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 7>to be easy to get a.

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<v Speaker 6>Strike on me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with Matt Sneyder cbsports dot com, but the

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>author of a book that has just dropped the leadoff man,

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the history of the evolution of and fun with the

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>greatest catalyst in all of sports. I've got to ask

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you this. The winter meetings just wrapped up. The Reds

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>targeted Kyle Schwarber and came up about twenty five million

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>dollars short. He's back with the Phillies. How do they

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>recover from that? Because this town was geeked for about

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>forty eight seventy two hours and now it's like, oh,

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>same old Reds. They really don't want to play the game.

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>How do they recover from that?

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<v Speaker 7>I thought they should have pivoted to Pete Alonso, but

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 7>now there's a slinging the mist there as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, we don't need to run through it again. You

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 6>know how badly they need power.

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 7>Elie de la Cruz Census Seer, the team leaders in

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 7>home runs with twenty two and twenty one.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Swarba or Alonzo.

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<v Speaker 7>Would hit forty to forty five, if not fifty in

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 7>that ballpark the next two years at Leeds.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 6>If you were worried about the last two years of the.

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 7>Contract being a stunt costs, I'm sorry, I don't know

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 7>what to tell you. Because the Reds just made the

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 7>playoffs last year, but they were outclassed by the Dodgers,

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.280
<v Speaker 7>in part because they don't have enough power in the lineup,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 7>and you had these two mega power hitters sitting there

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 7>on the market and all it takes is money, all

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 7>you got to do. I don't think Swarber was ever

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 7>really going to leave Philadelphia, but sometimes the polls going

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 7>back home can be there at least match it. At

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 7>least match it and say hey, we'll give you the

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 7>same money.

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 6>Just come home. The Reds have the money, They're not

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 6>tied up with a bunch of huge contracts or anything.

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 6>They need to.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 7>Capitalize on that run to the playoffs. I mean, they

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 7>hardly have anybody making five figures in the season. I

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 7>think maybe Preaty will be over ten million, but Hunter

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 7>Green's going to be the second highest tape player next year.

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 7>To me, sorry to pile on, but unacceptable that the

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 7>Reds weren't willing to swim in the big boy pool

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 7>here for Shober. And then again I would throw Alonzo

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 7>in there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. The book is the leadoff man, the History

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Evolution of and Fun with the greatest catalyst

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in sports. I'm looking right here on Amazon. If you

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>order it today, you can get it delivered free by Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty darn good. Good luck with the book, Matt,

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know I'll visit down the road. But congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on that, and thank you, thank you for your time

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<v Speaker 1>here today.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very platteruing you should be actually very proud of

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<v Speaker 1>what you did. It's a terrific book. I would recommend it.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I've read it. It's great. Yeah, it looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>Reds are left with the Ryan o'hearns of the world.

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Who's still out there? Thirty two years old, hit two

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>eighty one last year, seventeen home runs. But it could

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>have been so much much better, really deflating one twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two on this snowy Saturday News Radio seven hundred WLW.

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