1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Chris Crocketber Jesse Kelly biss is the Jesse Kelly Show. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Continuing on you had Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying that 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: declaring Care Council American Islamic Relations as a terror organization 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: as well as the Mother Muslim Brotherhood, and he's right 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: on both. But I wanted to also talk about the 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: President Trump that he also signed an executive order this 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: afternoon designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization, 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: and he's exactly correct. Let me share this with you. 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Got some analysis from The Free Press, among other publications. 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: The Free published a story this summer on how the 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood is capturing Europe. They cited a leaked report 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: by the French Ministry of the Interior which concluded the 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Brotherhood strategy is to install a form of ideological hegemony 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: by infiltrating civil society under the guise of religious and 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: educational activities. The Institute for the Study of Global Anti 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Semitism Policy says the Muslim Brotherhood appears to be the 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: intellectual inspiration behind all Islamist groups and theirs gee hottest 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: offshoots that operate today, such as Isis, al Qaida and Hamas. 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: The institute released another report in November, saying, calling it 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: the quote the Muslim Brotherhood strategy entryism, strategic entryism into 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the United States. And this is going to sound exactly 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: like I told you that, Hamas, I'm sorry that the 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Holyland Foundation the largest ever terrorism fundraising case in US 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: history that happened in Dellasforth, Texas in eight nine, two 25 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand and nine, where an unindicted co 26 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: conspirator in that case is Care, the consul of American 27 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Islamic Relations. Remember I told you that the FBI DLJ 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: bugged a room, a hotel room in Boston where Care 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: meet met with Holyland Foundation people, and Care was talking 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: about we need to waste a jihad, a non balanced 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: jihad in America, use its laws, use its freedom, to 32 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: use the press, to turn this country against itself in 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: the name of Islam, of radical Islam. Well, look at 34 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: this from the study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy 35 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: entitled this study entitled the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy excuse me, 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: strategic Entryism into the United States. Quote. This comprehensive study 37 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: exposes and examines the Muslim Brotherhood's comprehensive multi generational strategic 38 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: campaign to transform Western society, especially in the United States, 39 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: from within through what is known through its own i 40 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: should say, through its own internal documents that describe a 41 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: civilizational struggle jihad. Unlike conventional terrorist threats, this strategy exploits 42 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: democratic freedoms and institutions to advance fundamentally anti democratic objectives, 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: representing a sophisticated form of non violent extremism targeting Western democracies. 44 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: The think tank also added this the Brotherhood is a 45 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: gateway to terrorism, infusing members with the religious doctrines and 46 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: hatred that justify violence. The most determined of these members 47 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: then form splinter groups or migrate individually to terrorist organization. 48 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: This is it. This is how we save our country 49 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: from Islamism and extremism from Islamists. And that's why Trump 50 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: was right today this afternoon late to designate the Muslim 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Let me share a little 52 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: bit more. This is from the New York Post today 53 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: reporting on this. They cite a chilling analysis from the 54 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Institute for the Global Study of Anti Semitism and Policy. 55 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: They found the Muslim Brotherhood is half way through its 56 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: plan to transform Western society from within, quote. We are 57 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: now fifty years into the Brotherhood's one hundred year planned 58 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: to entrench themselves into key institutions, into the United States 59 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: and other Western societies to undermine a destroyer of democracy. 60 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: I told you this in the last hour. I'll say 61 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: it again. Europe, I should say, France, Germany and Britain 62 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: are gone. They will be Muslim states. They will be 63 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: Muslim states. Do not believe me. Look at these statistics yourself, 64 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: These humanist, secularist countries who are having one baby if 65 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: you're lucky, per couple out of wedlock, most likely sadly, 66 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: versus the Islamic people are having five babies. You already 67 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: know this. No go zones. You already know Jews can't 68 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: go in certain areas. They're harassed, beaten, god knows what 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: because they've allowed, for example, Germany with Angela Merkel allowed 70 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: a million Syrian refugees to come into their country, and 71 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: that the terror and the horror that has happened because 72 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: of that is is completely overtly resounding. A lot of 73 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: the German I heard earlier a couple of weeks ago 74 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: or maybe last month, the German Christmas markets they have there. 75 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: I believe they said they're going to shut them down 76 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: this year because they cannot keep them open because too 77 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: many radical Islamis will plow a car into the middle 78 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: of those Christmas markets or shoot them up. Quote. This 79 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: is not simply a political movement, the Institute for the 80 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Global Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy side in 81 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: its report last week. This is not simply a political movement, 82 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: but a transnational ideological project that adapts itself to Western 83 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: styles while working to undermine them. The Brotherhood has chanced 84 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: a champion strict schurial law, pushed for a caliphate, which 85 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: is a government rule by strict Islamic code or Sharia law, 86 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: under which women's rights are typically severely restricted, while extreme 87 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: forms of punishment abound as its overseers cracked down on 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: personal freedoms. This is evil treated as cattle. They seek 89 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: to turn us into another Islamic nations. Islamism is rules everything, 90 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: and women are treated like cattle, and gays are thrown 91 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: off for buildings or killed or stoned, and Jews are 92 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: executed summarily, and people like you or me, perhaps as 93 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: a Christian, we are forced to convert or we're killed 94 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: or enslaved. Globally the Brotherhood is a gateway to terrorism, 95 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: infusing the members with religious doctrines and hatred. That justified violence, says, 96 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the foundation of defense for democracies. So there you have it. 97 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: So that's why Donald Trump did this, and that's why 98 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: he's right to do it. The Muslim Brotherhood's motto, Allah 99 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Qoran 100 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the 101 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: way of Allah as our highest hopes. Now, let me 102 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: tell you one more thing. I could not believe this, 103 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: but it is very true. I had a privilege, the 104 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: privilege of interviewing a Jewish scholar who is an expert 105 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: on the Holocaust and Islamism and the Holocaust and the 106 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Nazi Germany and everything in that area. And I learned 107 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: a lot when when I talked to him, and after 108 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I talked to him. There was first of all, the 109 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood, the years that they began and were active. 110 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: We're talking the nineteen forties, fifties and sixties and beyond. 111 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: And one of the original people in the Muslim Brotherhood 112 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: had a copy of Hitler's mind Kampf and was an admirer, 113 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: a very deep admirer of Hitler, and in fact he 114 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: helped in aiding there was a Muslim unit that went 115 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: in and fought in Nazi Germany and hunted down and 116 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: slaughtered Jews. There is no difference. This is evil, this 117 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: is darkness. So they're not just going to come for Jews. 118 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: They're going to come for every one of us, and 119 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: they're going to make us submit. And thank god, we 120 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: have a president who will stand up to this, and 121 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: we have in Texas a governor who will stand up 122 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to this. This is extraordinarily important and I just can't 123 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: emphasize it enough. We're going to talk to an expert 124 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: on this who was actually a Muslim himself, doctor Zudi Jasser, 125 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: from the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, coming up in 126 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: about twenty three minutes. I can't wait to talk to 127 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: him about that. Oh. One more thing that just broke 128 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: out this afternoon. Ice is deporting another radical Islamis and 129 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: he's being defended by care. I'm sure that surprises you. 130 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: Marwan Marouf, director of public relations and fundraising for the 131 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: Muslim American Society. This happens to be in Dallas Fort Worth, 132 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: but and this is a front group for the Brotherhood, 133 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the Muslim American Society. He was heading up for Dallas 134 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Fort Worth and the Donald Trump administration cuffed him and 135 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: stuffed him and is deporting him. He's been overstaying a 136 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: visa for eleven years. He's literally heading up the Muslim 137 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: American Society of Dallas forth hiding in playing sight as 138 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: an illegal for over ten years, and he is literally 139 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: in a group that is a front group for the 140 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood. The consular American Islamic Relations stood up and 141 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: defended him today in all of his links that he 142 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: has to terrorists and such. His brother in law was 143 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: convicted for doing business with Comas. Another in law was 144 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: convicted of the Holyland Foundation trial that I told you about. 145 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: The CARE Executive director for Texas called this man a 146 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: pillar of the community. That is everything you need to 147 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: know about the Muslim Brotherhood Care at all. Coming up 148 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: next to all the latest the dances from the Sunday 149 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: morning shows of the Democrats who came on that served 150 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: our country at the time, supposedly honorably now encouraging in 151 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: its direction, I should say, mutiny within our own military. 152 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: They are dancing around trying to explain themselves and gaining 153 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: their butts handed them to them by the leftist Sunday 154 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Shows of all places. That's coming up next, Chris in 155 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: for Jesse, Chris Crock and protessee Kelly. This is the 156 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris 157 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: croc Villion for Jesse Kelly. Follow me on social media 158 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter, akax at Chris croc Show. That's at Chris 159 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: crock Show. Chris kr Okay, you can follow my podcast 160 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: on Rumble in YouTube at Kroc Talk kr Oka t 161 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: A LK. Well, they're doing the dance now. They're doing 162 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: the dance because they with the Trump arrangement syndrome, decided 163 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: to go nuts and literally lead troops to do mutiny. Basically, 164 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: for example, as you know, in the the one minute, 165 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: six second long gathering of different Democrats who've served in 166 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: the military, CIA and such, the threats to our constitution, 167 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: they said, aren't just coming from abroad, but right here 168 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: at home. The threats to our constitution right here at home. 169 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. Well, 170 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: when asked about but let's hear what Alyssa Slotkin, who 171 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: was one of the people in there, she's former CIA well, 172 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: what illegal orders. Specifically, these are the leftist Sunday morning shows, 173 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: by the way, asking who you are. 174 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Let's talk right now. Do you believe President Trump has 175 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: issued any illegal orders? 176 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that 177 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: are illegal, but certainly. 178 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait nothing. Did you just say he didn't 179 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: do anything illegal. 180 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: My knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal, 181 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going 182 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related to Venezuela. 183 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: So you've told us the threats of the constitution, the 184 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: constitution are coming from right here at home, and you 185 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. But 186 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: now you're telling us no illegal orders have been given. 187 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: What it does. 188 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: Imply that the president is having illegal orders which you 189 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: have not seen. 190 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: I think for us, it was just a statement widely right, 191 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: we say, very quickly and very to all the folks 192 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: who come to us, this is the process. Go to 193 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: your jag officer, asked them for explanation for. 194 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, did you hear in that one minute, 195 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: six second video did you hear anything about go to 196 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: your jag officer? Because I didn't hear anything. I just 197 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: heard them say you must refuse illegal orders. You can refuge, 198 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: you fuse legal refuse legal orders. I didn't hear any 199 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: of them say, you go to your jag officer. 200 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: To all the folks who come to us, this is 201 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: the process. Go to your jag officer, ask them for explanation, 202 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: for top cover, for their view on things. We do 203 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: that on a case by case basis, but we wanted 204 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: to speak directly to the volumes of people who had 205 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: come to us. 206 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: On the volumes of people. They are everywhere. They're at 207 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: my door too, Hew, people can be given ilegal orders. Hew, help, 208 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: they're everywhere. There's no one there. They just did this 209 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: to undermine President Trump. I heard on Fox News this 210 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: afternoon that the Department of Justice or whatever the military 211 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: prosecutor are looking into Mark Kelly. They're in best getting 212 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: him for what he said and did. And I think 213 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: that's great. If he violated the law, he must be prosecuted. 214 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: You do not encourage our true Ah Mark I center 215 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: to remark, Caroly, I'm a hero. 216 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: Look at me. 217 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I broke my arm, petty myself on the back. I'm 218 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: a hero. You must refuse legal orders right here at home. 219 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Threats are coming from. Here we go. We have Jason Crow, 220 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: who also served honorably in combat. Here's here he is 221 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: trying to do his dance, explaining things away on the 222 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Sunday shows this weekend. 223 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 4: We wanted to start a conversation and we did about 224 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 4: the dangerous rhetoric this president is using and the threats 225 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: that he's made to use our military in an unlawful way. 226 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: Because well, send troops into Chicago, send troops into polling stations, 227 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: kill terrorists, families, arrest and execute, arrest and execute members 228 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: of Congress. 229 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: He has not done those things, she said, even the 230 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: leftist meet, he hasn't done those things. Absolute fools, dangerous fools. 231 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: Here's Amy Klobachar, who always shakes when she talks. Next 232 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: time you see Amy Klobachar speak, just like in this 233 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: piece of audio I'm about to play for you. Look 234 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: at her hair. It shakes. She's got a shaky problem. 235 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but she's always been shaky, 236 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: even since she was doing the debates in the Democrat 237 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: nomination process for president. Here you go, I wonder do 238 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you know what the specific illegal acts are that your 239 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Democratic colleagues were referring to there. 240 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 6: Well, it's very clear in this code for the military 241 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: that you cannot follow on lawful orders, and you know 242 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: that would be I'll just use an example. Some of 243 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 6: the judges have now found in certain cities that it 244 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: is not legal to send in the National Guard. And 245 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 6: those National Guard members have come home. Some of them 246 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 6: are still there. But if they're a commander, where to 247 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 6: tell him, hey, go out on the streets and do this, 248 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: and that that's not following the order that is in law. 249 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 6: So I just use that example. 250 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: Use what example you just said. They were called in 251 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: the troops. They were Illinois National Guardsmen, and there were 252 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Texas National Guardsmen that were called in. They were sitting 253 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: there at Great Lagus Naval Base in the Chicagoland area, 254 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: right on Lake Michigan in the north shore, and they 255 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: weren't deployed because of this federal judge, this leftist federal 256 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: judge said you can't deploy them. And Trump didn't disobey 257 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the order from the federal judge. Nobody was set in 258 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: the streets and if they were like in Los Angeles, 259 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: it was lawful. And if the courts said you can't 260 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: do that, the Trump administration sought judicial relief and got it. 261 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: There is nothing there and they have no good explanation. 262 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: That's why they sound like a fool. Let's hear what 263 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: happened on CNN's Abbey Phillip. 264 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: It's a wink in a nod and it's all meant 265 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: to undermine the president of United States. 266 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: The military does not have a right to. 267 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: Under a second in this country. You do get to 268 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: undermine the president of the if you're if you are 269 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: a member of Congress, you absolutely in this country have 270 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: a free military commander. 271 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: It's not Congress. It is Congress that is telling some 272 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: congressmen and women that are telling the troops to disobey 273 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: their commander in chief, which is highly illegal and it 274 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: very well may be illegal. In fact, there is a 275 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I should have pulled it up where there's a buddy 276 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: of mine who does the show, Eric Erickson, and he 277 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: had a JAG officer call in and literally give the code, 278 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the US code for mutiny, and it literally reads what 279 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: they did as mutiny by encouraging these soldiers to disobey, 280 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: and mutiny is if convicted, punishab By up to death. 281 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: That's just how it is. If you don't want that, 282 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: if you think that's harsh, then don't freaking tell the 283 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: troops to disobey their commander in chief when nothing, according 284 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: to all of them, has been centered done. That is 285 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: tell is illegal period. There are no illegal orders. They're 286 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: only speculating, which is wrong. Hey, up next, doctor Zudi Jasser, 287 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: who he's a reformist and the Muslim movement and you 288 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: must hear him call out CARE and others, Chris crock 289 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: and Jesse County. A very very important man to talk to, 290 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: especially when we look at Governor Abbott in the state 291 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: of Texas designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terror organization 292 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: and then CARE Council on American Islamic Relations as a 293 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: terror organization. We know that today we have reports that 294 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump is going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood 295 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: as a terror organization. No word on whether CARE will 296 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: be added to that list. Doctor Zudi Jasser from the 297 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: American he's the founder of the American Islamic Forum for 298 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: Democracy ai FD has is joining us right now. Doctor Jasser, 299 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us today, sir. 300 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: It's great to be with you. And actually just moments 301 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: to go to the assigned the executive order making the 302 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terror organization globally, and to designate 303 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: that the domestically and globally, we begin to identify which 304 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: chapters are fitting that criteria. So it's a great day 305 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: for all of us. Have been working for us for decades. 306 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Now tell me why you've been working at it to 307 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: make the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization in the depths 308 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: of that. If you can't, you could do a whole 309 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: exposantic but in our short time we have together. Yeah. 310 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: So bottom line is, you know, my family escaped Syria 311 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: to come here and be able to practice our faith 312 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: more freely than we could in any so called Muslim country. 313 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: And this is a very American fight. Our founding fathers 314 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 5: fought against deocracy, the theocrats, and the Muslim world. The 315 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 5: sunny side are the Muslim Brotherhood, the Shia side or 316 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 5: the Hominis Naehran. Bottom line is they think that they 317 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 5: are God. They don't believe in rule by human elections 318 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: and democracy. They believe in rule by interpretation of their scripture, 319 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 5: their interpretation of scripture rather than personal ones. And this 320 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: is why it's a very American fight and the only 321 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 5: the only antidote to political Islam or Islamism is Americanism, 322 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: and I think this is finally we have an offense. 323 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: We've been playing defense. I was on the US Commission 324 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 5: on International Religious Freedom for four years, appointed by Senator McConnell. 325 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: In twenty thirteen, we went to Egypt. I met with 326 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: the Brotherhood and they were running Egypt and they were 327 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: allowing churches to be burned down and other savages against 328 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 5: other minorities in Egypt. And it was a clearly operating 329 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 5: like a terror organization. And yet the toughest meeting I 330 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 5: had was with President Obama's appointee, Ambassador Patterson, who was 331 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: telling me they're democratically elected, they are not terrorists, and 332 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 5: this is what the people have chosen. That Hamas was 333 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: democratically elected, and they're still a terror organization on our genicidle. 334 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 5: And sure enough we see October seven, twenty three what 335 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: Hamas did. They are a branch of the Brotherhood. 336 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Also, so there's no question that Governor Abbit in Texas 337 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: is right to designate the Brotherhood as a terror organization 338 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: as well as Donald J. Trump tell me about care. 339 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: Because Governor Abbot labeled them as a terror organization, should 340 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: President Trump also label the CARE as a radical Islamic organization, 341 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: the terror organization, and why. 342 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I look at it like we did 343 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: in the Cold War. We were fighting the Soviets, and 344 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: clearly the folks that were working with the Soviet regime 345 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 5: were our enemy and the threat to the West. There 346 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: were other communist groups around the world that might not 347 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: have been Soviet sympathizers are directly working for them, but 348 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 5: they were sympathized with communism. CARE is an Islamist group. 349 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: They're founding. Document under FBI a wiretap in nineteen ninety 350 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 5: one demonstrated that they were of hamas founding in ninety one, 351 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: and ultimately they said they were going to use the 352 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: Palestinian issue to form a group. They initially started as 353 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: an Islamic Association for Palestine and then morphed into CARE. 354 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: The Holy Land Foundation trial in Texas back in two 355 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 5: thousand and eight and then in two thousand and nine 356 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 5: convicted six board members of going to providing funneling money 357 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: to hum Off, and they ultimately shut down the Holy 358 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 5: Land Foundation and those board members went to prison. CARE 359 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: was identified as an unindicted co conspirator, and they tried 360 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 5: to have that identification removed through court action years later, 361 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 5: and they failed because they were part of that adjacent network, 362 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: if you will. Now, should we go far enough to 363 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: say that they're an FTO foreign terror group, We still 364 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 5: need evidence. I'd love to see the evidence of what 365 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: the governor has on that. But bottom line is, they 366 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 5: certainly should be part of the, if you will, radioactive 367 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: nature of these Islamist groups that are a threat and 368 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 5: certainly not all about civil rights like they claimed to be. 369 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Governor, I pointed to a federal court finding can CARE 370 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: to Hamas, including a two thousand and nine Supreme Court 371 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: ruling finding that was ample evidence. I think this is 372 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, trying to go to court to 373 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: get a thrown out. Supreme Court found there was ample 374 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: evidence of CARES association with the foreign terrorist Organization HAMAS, 375 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: citing a report leging that CARE had recently provided cash 376 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: grants to college students discipline for pro Hamas disruptions. Any 377 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: further thoughts on. 378 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: That, Yeah, not only those campus students, did they funnel 379 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: that money to give them financing for disruptions and slowing 380 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 5: and preventing Jewish students from getting to their prayer services 381 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 5: on Friday? As we saw across campuses. But the Students 382 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: for Justice and Palestine, which is another organization similar to 383 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 5: CARE that CARE worked with, had on their website endorsements 384 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 5: of October seven, saying that it was about Palestinian rights, etc. 385 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 5: And that we've been calling for exposure as definite support 386 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 5: of material support of terrorism. So there are many aspects 387 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 5: to it. All I can tell you is God bless 388 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 5: the governor for finally beginning to shine light on this. 389 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 5: And whether they're a terror group or a sympathize group, 390 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 5: it's time to expend because they've never countered the Brotherhood. 391 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: They've never expressed that the Brotherhood is not American and 392 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 5: its ideology is not free. It's been the font of terrorism. 393 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 5: So they can be as apoplectic as they want to 394 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 5: be about the designation, but the bottom line is is 395 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: at the minimum, they're sympathizers with the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas 396 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: and terror groups that give Muslims not only a bad name, 397 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: but our corruption at the core of our faith community. 398 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Doctor Sue Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Form for Democracy, 399 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: how Towad, the head of CARE, after October seventh, the 400 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: terror attack, said he was happy. I mean I've got 401 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the audio, but I'm sure you've heard it over and 402 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: over again. I was happy, he said, to see the 403 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: people of Gaza break the siege on October seventh. They 404 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: were victorious. The people of Gaza have the right to 405 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: self defense. Israel does not. Did that surprise you that 406 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: you shouldn't say that, not at all. 407 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: They have been multiple times had opportunities to condemn law, 408 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 5: to condemn Hamas. After nine to eleven they were asked 409 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 5: to condemn al Qaida's movements, and they complained about conspiracy 410 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: theories and said they didn't do it, And ultimately they 411 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 5: invoked every conspiracy theory and anti Semitic comments they could, 412 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 5: and yet they couldn't get themselves to take any type 413 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: of ownership and responsibility for the fact that our faith 414 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 5: community produced these groups, these radical groups, and begin to 415 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 5: counter it and join our Muslim reform movement to look 416 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: at the theocratic ideas that in a very American way, 417 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 5: need to be reformed and defeated, so that women have 418 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: a right to their own bodily autonomy, so that faith 419 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: minorities have a right to religious freedoms that they have 420 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: in their communities. But instead they constantly invoked identity politics 421 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 5: and excuses, and those excuses actually fueled radicalization. And we said, 422 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: you know what, when I worked with Peter king in 423 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 5: in New York City about defending the NYPD, they constantly, 424 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 5: they constantly said that they were the victims. And I said, 425 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 5: you know what, After they radicalized Muslims, they're going to 426 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 5: come for the left. And we saw it. The Democratic 427 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: Party now has been run by nihilists, far extremists, and 428 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: that radicalization is the same type of radicalization that countenances 429 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 5: of violence and terrorism, whether it's Antifa or humas. And 430 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 5: we saw in the during COVID the BLM folks were 431 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: going through towns destroying shopping centers and destroying businesses in 432 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 5: the name of freedom, in the name of rights against 433 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: the police. In fact, it was anarchy against law and order. 434 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 5: And that's what terrorism is. It's it's the ends justifies 435 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 5: the means. It's a lack of a moral compass and 436 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 5: care has never has never spoken against these groups. To them, 437 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: the West can do no good and Islamic communities can 438 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: do no bad. And that type of extremism is not 439 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 5: what I think is the future of reform in our community. 440 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Doctor Jesser. They also talk about a one hundred year 441 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: plan for the Muslim Brotherhood to wig jihad inside of 442 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: free countries like ours, to take our rights and the 443 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: media and use it against us. 444 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 6: Uh. 445 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: This is what the FBI and the Department of Justice 446 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: revealed in when they bugged a hotel room in Boston 447 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: with care and Undelico conspirator. As you said in the 448 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Holyland Foundation and others in that room talking about this, 449 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: is this what you understand to be true too, that 450 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood care use our freedoms and our laws 451 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: and our media to wage a non violence jehad against 452 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: us in this country and against our country. 453 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 5: Political islam theocracy, Islamic theocracy would be it in enclaves 454 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: like they're trying to do in East Plano, Islamic Center 455 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: in Epic, or they you know do globally through governments 456 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 5: like Kuttar and Turkey. That our Islamic Brotherhood type ideologues 457 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: Al Jazeera It's sixty million Arabs that watch it and 458 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 5: listen to it today are basically anti Western, anti Israel, 459 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: anti Semitic. Those ideologies are all different parts of the 460 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: fronts of the war against the West. The biggest threat 461 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 5: to them for Islamic governance is liberty and Western democracy. 462 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: Communism is in a threat because Muslims reject that. Typically 463 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: Russia is not a threat. The biggest threat is Western 464 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: freedom and their ideologues. That founded the Brotherhood in the 465 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 5: early twentieth century say it that wrote a book called 466 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 5: the Milestones, in which he talked about milestones along the 467 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: way in which we will defeat the West. He said, 468 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: I wrote a book called the Battle for the Soul 469 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 5: of Islam, and I've highlighted in it all of the 470 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: different interpretations of the Qoran that can be modernized for 471 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: Western thinking that should be celebrated instead of the monolithic 472 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 5: interpretation of the Qoran that is theocratic that comes from 473 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: the hobbies of Saudi Arabia to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt. 474 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: So ultimately, these are the ideas that we have to counter. 475 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: I debated this in Oxford in October twenty four and 476 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 5: people can look up that ten minute speech and just 477 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: see how I said. You know, the Islam of today 478 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 5: is not compatible with democracy, but it can be, just 479 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: as Western Christianity took seventeen hundred and eighty nine years 480 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: until there was a governance, governing system that was compatible 481 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 5: with democracy based on Jesus's message, and I think similarly 482 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: Islam can have that in the future, but it has 483 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 5: nowhere in the planet where it is today, and the 484 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: Muslim brother has been the biggest obstacle to that in 485 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: association with various dictatorships across the Middle East. 486 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: We'll hear more from doctor Jasser coming up next on 487 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. Beth with doctor Zudi Jasser, founder 488 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: of the American Islamic Warm for Democracy, on The Jesse 489 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Two more quick questions, Doctor Judy Jasser. I'm 490 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: grateful for your time. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations 491 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: for Muslim American Society of Dallas Fort Worth. It's just 492 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: been cuffed and stuffed in these They're going to deport 493 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: him for many things, including lack of attal, valid entry document, 494 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: solicitation of funds for a terrorist organization, material support of 495 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: terrorism donations that he has made according to authorities for 496 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Hamas Funk Group, Holy Land Foundation, Muslim Holy Foundation, which 497 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: we talked about. So I'm not sure if you're aware 498 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: of him from its incession, the Holy Foundation existed to 499 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: support Hamas reads the Department of Justice when that case 500 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: went down. So in the Heroo Care, which has numerous 501 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: links to terror. This report from the Dallas Express says 502 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: Today called for Maroof's release soon after his arrest in September. 503 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Not sure if you know him, but they say he's 504 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: an active leader of the Muslim American Society of Dallas. 505 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Fort Worth Prosecutes alleged he founded that as an overt 506 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: I was founded as an overt armed to the Muslim 507 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: Brotherhood in the United States of America. Thoughts comments on 508 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: that one. 509 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, listen, folks that are here. I don't 510 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: know him personally or have been in contact with his 511 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 5: work at all, but the Muslim American Society the MAAS. 512 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 5: The Chicago Tribune had a six part series about how 513 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 5: its chapters are basically the embodiment of the Muslim Brotherhood 514 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: in America and that they ultimately if you look at 515 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 5: their back, if you look at their constitutions and bylaws, 516 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: it looks like it comes right out of the Muslim 517 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: Brotherhood in Egypt, where it talks about how to indoctrinate 518 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 5: youth and use what we call in Arabic tavilla programs, etc. 519 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: So the MAAS is actually even closer to the left 520 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 5: ventricle of the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood than even 521 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: the Council on American Islamic Relations, which really more came 522 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: out of Hamas. So bottom line is it's all the 523 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 5: same different types of toxins that are not compatible with 524 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 5: our democracy if people are here on visa or here as, 525 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: you know, trying to get citizenship. I think there have 526 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: been many cases that Secretary of Rubio has highlighted that 527 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 5: you know what, our citizens have free speech, they have 528 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: constitutional protection. But people here on visas are hereby privilege, 529 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 5: so they don't have a right to come here and 530 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: attack our system of governance, to basically sow countenance for 531 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: violence and other things. So no, I completely believe that 532 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: this is why this XTO designation for the Brotherhood is 533 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: so important, because it will allow us as Muslims to 534 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: begin to be better advocates for Americanism and begin to 535 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 5: marginalize these voices of extremism and anti Americanism that exists 536 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: in so many Islamic identity groups and even in many 537 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 5: mosques that countenance this radicalization. 538 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: And here's care the executive director for Texas calling this 539 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: man who headed up the muslimer moss ma as of 540 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: Dell's fourth A Pillar of the Community shocker. One last 541 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about doctor Zuli Jaster. 542 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: While we have you, I'm grateful for your time. Is 543 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: the new mayor of New York City, the incomeing mayor 544 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: of New York City's Ormondami. I think he's an Islamist 545 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: and a Marxist communist. What do you think about him? 546 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: And where do you think his thoughts lie as far 547 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: as Islam and Islamism, Well. 548 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 5: In the tree, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 549 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: His father is a radical, far left extremist professor in 550 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 5: Columbia that compared that said Abraham Lincoln was worse than 551 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 5: Adolf Hitler. So this is the type of ideology of 552 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: what he feels about America. Mamdani a week before he 553 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: got elected, went and shook the hands and hugged Animam 554 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 5: by the name of Sadaj Wahaj and Imam. That is 555 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: highlighted in my book A Battle for the Soul of Islam. 556 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: I went to one meeting of the largest Muslim brotherhood 557 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 5: organization in America called the Islamic Society of North America 558 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: in ninety five that Imam gave the keynote address. He 559 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 5: held up the Quran and said, it is our role 560 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: as Muslims to change the constitution and put into its 561 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: place the Quran as the guiding constitution of this country. 562 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: I went to the microphone within minutes in which he 563 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: finished one of the q and a microphones and said, 564 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: whoever's here that works for the government or believes in 565 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: our constitution, you should resigning me imediately. This is a 566 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: teditious organization. And the Iman what he just said, he 567 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 5: has the right to disagree with policy, but what he 568 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: said is sedition and said Ajwahas thirty years later is hugging. 569 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 5: Mamdani and his kids, by the way, were arrested in 570 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 5: a terror plot in New Mexico. So this guy is 571 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 5: one degree of separation from multiple organizations and radicalisms that 572 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 5: are related to terrorism, and yet he continues to be 573 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 5: sort of like the icon representative of Muslims in Mamdani 574 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 5: hugs them with no filter. So, yeah, Mamdani is an Islamist. 575 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 5: He works closely with them, and he's a socialist also, 576 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 5: so the aocs of the world, the ilhan Omars, the 577 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 5: Mamdanis are working with the red green axis, no different 578 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: than the Irans of the world. Are working with the 579 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 5: Venezuelas and the Chinas. 580 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Yep, doctor Suggester, if people could want to follow you 581 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter or your books, tell us where we can 582 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: follow you and what books we can get from you 583 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and how we can find you. 584 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, please follow me on Twitter at doctor Zudi Jasser, 585 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: d R v U H D I J A S 586 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 5: S E R. And our website is ais Democracy dot org, 587 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: aif democracy dot org. And actually I co chair a 588 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 5: coalition called the Clarity Coalition Claritycoalition dot org. Clarity stands 589 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 5: for champions for liberty against the reality of Islamist tyranny. 590 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 5: And my book is a Battle for the Soul of Islam, 591 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 5: The Battle for the Soul of Islam. 592 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Zudi Jasser, the president and founder of the American 593 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Islamic Forum for Democracy. Thank you and God bless you, 594 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: my friend. We appreciate you joining us today. That was 595 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: doctor Zudi Jasser, President and founder of the American Islamic 596 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: Forum for Democracy.