WEBVTT - 2-4-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.840 Do you want to be in a county it's flowing 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.000 me back on seven hundred, w adaddie, Man. We got 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.600 a lot to get to today, for sure, this is 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.119 a really interesting story. We have seen a lot of 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.880 street razors and street takeovers in Cincinnati, and I'm yeah, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.360 I'm not sure if more younger people are doing it 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.759 today than you did back in the day, or it 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.360 could just be that we see it because cameras are everywhere, 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.720 and these people are putting it online and it is 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.120 a problem for sure. So what do you think about this? 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.319 In Kentucky, lawmakers are working on a bill there that 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:36.159 would allow the state to seize and destroy vehicles used 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:41.840 in street racing or street takeovers. From a civil libertarian perspective, 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.560 does a punishment fit the crime. It's a good idea. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.920 It's a good to turn on that From Newport Is, 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.879 Kentucky Representative Matt Lehman, Democratic, Campbell County, Matt, welcome. How 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:56.880 are you. I'm doing fine. I think we have the 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.680 same temperature. No, kidd, it was like third to walk 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.600 the dog yesterday. Man, it was thirty degrees. It felt 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:02.160 like it was eighty. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:04.759 I know what. That was a nice tot break. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.679 Yeah, we're going to get forty late next week. It's 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.000 going to feel like we live in Palm Springs. Before 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.160 I get into the crushing of cars used in street 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.080 racing real quick, I want to touch on something you're 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.080 voting on, and that is the new landlord bill in 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.720 Kentucky law that would terminate a rental agreement in three 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.160 days notice when law enforcement or fire protection emergency services 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.040 are dispatched more than three times within a six month 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.240 period to the same location, and it's because of the 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.200 tenants conduct. I think that's really good laws the landlord myself, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.920 because on this side of the river anyway, at least 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.880 in Cincinnati, they expect the landlord to essentially be a babysitter. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.880 If you're a grown adult and you're running a property, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.200 you know, I shouldn't get in trouble because you're speeding 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.240 or doing a streets takeover. Yet when you're in my property, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.160 it's like, well, wait a minute, these are growing. I 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.240 could see if I neglected the property, but that's about it. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.640 I can't control the comings and goings of an adult. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.760 Yeah, so now it's you're right, and and actually the 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.000 bills proposed in Kentucky is actually pretty similar to some 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:07.800 of the surrounding states, so that you know, this is 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.200 Kentucky's in some ways a little bit behind on this. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.840 And and you know, look, I anytime I hear a 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.880 bill that the landlords are pushing, Look, sometimes I'm a 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.880 little skeptical. You know, they have their own interest, but 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.280 it's but you're right. So the way a lot of 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.880 municipal walls are, it puts all the burden on the landlords. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.239 So it's if you own a property and it's a 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.560 nuisance or your tenants a nuisance, it becomes the landlord's property. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.160 And the landlord doesn't always have the tools, uh to 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.959 remove a tenant that is a true problem and a 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.720 nuisance to the neighborhood. So this this would help and 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.240 kind of reduce the timelines, uh, you know for evicting 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.919 a real problem tenant. Two issues that I you know, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.280 I've talked to the bill sponsor, we may say, you 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.320 know to two issues that were brought to me. One 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.600 was actually from the city of Newports, the mayor Tom 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.720 Gadilly Junior. I mean he mentioned, look that the the 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.919 largest number of calls for police in the city and 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.760 Newport is actually parking in fractions, and so we don't 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.079 you know, we don't want to be evicting people that 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.000 you know, they've had three calls because their neighbor doesn't 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.239 like where they're parking. You know, I don't think we 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.120 got to make sure this is balanced, that you know 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.079 that there's real infractions and the real problem in the 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.480 neighborhood and not just you know, your neighbor doesn't like 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.880 and keeps calling the cops. And the other one is, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.840 you know, make sure that you know, we don't want 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.919 to have the landlord making the call say hey, you know, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.720 I think rent's gone up. I could get a better 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.280 tenant and you know, allow of the landlord to make 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.840 three calls and uh, you know, try to get that out. 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.960 But well, you know, I think there's some we'll get 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.080 the bill in pretty good shape. And I think it's 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:38.680 got a good chance. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.480 Okay, good, good, that's all I think. That's I think 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.320 that's good legislation. Matt Lemon. Let me pivot then to 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:45.720 the issue at hand here, and that is, if you're 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.640 caught up in a street race or a street takeover, uh, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.680 it's not a three strikes And now this is interesting. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.920 So the first defense if they catch you doing this 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.720 is up to one thousand dollars five six months in 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:00.400 jail and ninety day vehicle impoundment. Second time, it's a 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.600 year in jail, two thousand dollars fine, license suspension, and 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.880 the state takes your vehicle. Why why the second time? 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.280 Why not? The third time is usually it's three strikes in, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:11.800 you're out. This is two strikes in, you're out. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.960 Yeah. Look, I so we passed a bill in the 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.640 House last year pretty similar to the building proposed. It 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.440 didn't make it through the Senate last year, so we've 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.159 kind of made it, tweaked a few changes, and I 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.120 think it made Look I voted for it last year. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.200 I'll vote for it again, you know. And I know people, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.640 you know, when you're taking property and so on, it's 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.159 you know, civil libertarians get real cautious. But you know, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.120 I mean, this is very dangerous activity. I mean, we're 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.960 talking about residential neighborhoods, cars going at very high I mean, 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.320 these are souped up cars that can go one hundred 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.800 hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty miles an hour, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.240 and it's just, you know, this is how people die. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.520 And you know, we've had real problems with this in 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.039 certain parts of Kentucky, especially like in Louisville. So the 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.880 bill sponsored bipartisan bill. There's two co sponsors from Republican 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.440 and the Democrat. In fact, the Democrats. She was previously 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.680 the mayor of Shively, which is a suburb of Louisville, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.000 so she you know, she she's been a mayor and 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.359 now state legislator Beverly Chester Burton, so you know she 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.919 understands it. I mean, there has to be as it's 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.760 you know, it's not cool. I mean, and I think, yeah, totally. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.120 We saw cam Taylor britt right, do you know what 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.200 three times, you know, a third time he was a 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.920 passionor but it's the car flipped over the other two 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.800 times he's driving like two hundred miles an hour in 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.159 the street. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.040 You can't have it, Yeah, agreed. And I and I 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.120 just think, yeah, look, I mean sometimes three strikes is 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.400 fine that you know that he's lucky he got a 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.640 third try. I mean, you know, we just yeah, I mean, 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.720 it is tough, but I think it's it's a very 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.600 serious problem. And then we're going to address it really 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:45.960 head on. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.600 So has this done anything to stop it in Louisville 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:50.919 since introduced us. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.000 So yeah, we'll see. And you made a good point. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.279 So after we did not pass it through the Senate 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.479 last year, the City of Louisville passing unisial ordinance. You know, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.880 the mayor was on TV summer crushing a I think 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.440 it was like one hundred thousand dollars dodge, you know, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.279 street racer. You know, right, we'll see, I mean to 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.360 be honest, you know that this went into effect in 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.200 the City of Louisville, I think in the spring. So 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.400 we've seen it, you know, about nine months, so we'll see. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.919 We'll see if it's working. Anecdotes say it does seem 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.599 to be and especially like I said, when we saw 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.400 the mayor crushing that car, it got a lot of 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.920 attention in Louisville. So yeah, we're hopeful that we'll be 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.279 able to give the tools, not just to the City 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.560 of Louisville, but you know, other other cities around. 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.640 Well, we know that you know, you know, murder is 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.559 not the capital punishment is not a deterrent for people. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.880 I don't know if this will generally thinking, oh, this 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.320 will be a deterrent. There's there's plenty of knuckleheads out there. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.120 They'll continue to do that now. Now, granted, not all 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.160 the cars, and certainly I would think it's a very 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.760 small percentage of the cars involved in driving this fast, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.720 our one hundred thousand dollars vehicles, right that can go. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.320 Typically it's going to be someone in a you know, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.080 souped up Honda or something like that. Right. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.560 I think that's where you know, when you think I 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.520 don't know, Look, I mean there's been street racing forever 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.000 and I when I was in high school and you'd 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.160 see it, I guess the place to do in northern 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.040 Kentucky when I was growing up without in Florence and 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.080 Dream Street and you'd see that you have souped up 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.240 Hondas and stuff. But no, I think this is getting 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.320 much more sophisticated and becoming And that's when it started 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.520 to become a real like it's not just you know, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:26.880 teenagers behaving, you know, unsafe. It was like nearly semi professional. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.080 I mean, these are cars that were meant for racetracks, right, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.520 lots of money going into it, well organized as well, 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.840 you know, they'd organized on social media, you know, and 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.480 have these events. So it was really getting to a 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.520 point where this this had to be strong, measureds needed 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:44.040 to be taken. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.920 I got you. And so the is it is it 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.240 getting worse? What is the day to say? Because you 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.720 kind of harkened, hey back in the day people that 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.720 used to drag race back tell you American graffiti from 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.160 the nineteen fifties. Well, they're doing the same thing that 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.480 that younger people are doing today. It's nothing new. But 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:01.280 is it getting worse? 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.640 Well, like I said, it's getting almost more professional. The 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:12.480 cars are much more like these are street cars, I 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.480 should say race cars or near race cars. They're able 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.880 to go very high speeds, and like I said, they're 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.680 you know, collecting crowds or organizing on social media. It 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.760 was not just like I said, it's kind of a 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.400 you know, just on a whim, We're going to go 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.080 out to the countryside and find an open stretch of 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.320 road and you know this is like I said. So, 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.400 I don't know the data says it's more often, but 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.439 it's certainly much more professional, with much higher specification cars 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.280 going at much higher speed and a lot more people involved. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.080 He is Kentucky. Ret Matt Lehman out of a Newport, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.440 represents Campbell County and there's a proposal out second time 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.439 around because it failed in the Senate. I believe you 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.160 mentioned Matt last time, and that is to deal with 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.800 the issue of street takeovers and street racers. And so 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:01.000 if you're engaged in drag racing or takeover, first penalty 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.240 is pretty stip six months in jail, ninety day impoundment, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.560 and up to a thousand dollars five Second time, they 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.440 could very well take your car and destroy it. And 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.760 that is the eye catching part. They seize your property, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.199 find you, maybe jael you, but also they're going to 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.080 take that thing and smash it in a million pieces, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.400 regardless of what it's worth and how much you know, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.000 how much I could get for it in the market. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.960 And that for a second offense, how do you balance that, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.280 Matt with And that's a pretty severe penalty. The concerns 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.959 about due process and proportionality, and of course the Eighth Amendment, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.720 which is the excessive fines concern that's an interesting constitutional question. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.839 I'm sure someone would challenge this lawn that the Supreme Court, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.160 I think in Indiana a few years ago said the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.559 excessive fine clause applies to states and vehicle forfeiture can 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:44.800 violate that eighth Amendment. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.320 Yeah, so a couple of things. So one I do 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.960 want to point out in the state law that we're 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.440 proposing in the House, it would actually allow either for 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.520 the crushing of the car or the sale of the 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.720 cart auction, and then the money from that sale would 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.320 actually go to a defense victims fund. So you know, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.040 it's it's not just about crushing the car and wasting 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.440 money and making a point. You know, there is a 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:16.280 mechanism that, yes, we could the state could collect after 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.400 selling the car and use it for a good purpose. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.240 You're right. I mean, look, we always try to balance 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.959 with the crime and the punishment. Like you said, eighth 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:28.040 Amendment concerns. But and I do think that's been appropriately handled. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.880 First of all, again, this is a second offense. So you know, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.400 you do it once, it's you know, it's a it's 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.040 a stiff fine. You do it twice. I mean, you 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.720 you've been warned, you've done it once. I mean there 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.440 is a I mean, look, there is a process. We 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.839 don't just take the car and crush it. You know, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.200 it does have to go to the court. You have 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:50.120 to be i mean convicted. So it's you know, this 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.080 isn't just you know, when when you get into some 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.760 of those issues, it tends to be you know, when 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.240 there's like that civil forfeiture sor you know, when the 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.280 police take something before you've had your in court. That's 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.640 not the case here. So this is a pretty well 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.600 established it would be a well established process, goes through 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.240 full court process. You know, you get your day in 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.920 court and the hearing. And like I said, this is 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.600 only if this has happened the second time. And don't 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.320 minimize I mean this, this is very very dangerous activity. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:19.240 No question. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.720 Yeah, yeah, I think I think the different going over 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.440 one hundred miles an hour. We're not talking about screwing around. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.760 I mean this, this is people die. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.600 And yeah, well we saw you know the Campdale brid 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.520 thing I brought up earlier. There's in the streets as 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.960 opposed to maybe the nineteen fifties, there's nowhere to go. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.520 It's the streets are more crowded and there's more people 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.160 around and vehicles, so the screw streets are jam packed 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.080 and it's only a matter of time. And now you 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.840 know the breath will this include the people who are 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.080 taking like them at intersection where they're doing burrons like donuts? 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.880 No, so this is I and you know I'd have 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.400 to take better. We worked on how to define what 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:57.800 street racing is. This isn't just you know, driving too fast. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.559 This is I mean, we have plenty of laws about 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.760 you know, speed driving. This is really about when it's 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.960 organized and it's intended to take over the street for 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:10.280 racing and like these kind of organized events. It's not 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.440 just a driver driving in appropriately off and on. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.880 Okay, I thought that might include that as well, because 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.600 there's some leeway and read through the bill, looks like 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.880 that that the criteria for what the standard is in 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.760 that bill would meet those that are doing donuts in 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.800 the streets. So is there something else say at play here? 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:28.040 Too? 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:33.360 Is that I remember when like kids were rollerblading or 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.480 skateboarding and parking lots, so we had this huge ban 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.000 and they can't skate. We're criminalizing skating. And then Minispela said, well, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.920 maybe we offered them on alternate, Maybe we build some 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.120 skate parks. Do we need to do that with like, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.280 I don't know, there's plenty of land of race tracks. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.640 I mean, you know, maybe hey, look, I think give 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.240 an outlet. If you're going to do it, here's a 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:52.160 place to do it safely. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.320 That's actually not a bad idea. And we actually have 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.480 the Kentucky Speedway that closed down a couple of years ago. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.240 If you've been down that, and maybe that's not a 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.160 bad idea, and that the uh you know, and you 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.560 can do it safely and make sure it's at the 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.120 right place. Yeah, I'm not against that. And maybe maybe 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:10.000 you have a good idea there. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.480 We'll throw throw it in there. You got to get 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.199 people alternative, Like if you're want to do it, you 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.640 want to do it, well, you sign a waiver and 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.280 you can hear here's the strip and no one's going 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.160 to get killed. You put some guardrails up or whatever. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.200 And if you're out there and you get hit, that's 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:21.840 on you, it's not on us. And you know, we 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.199 have plenty of we have plenty of paved road around that. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.800 Doing much or parking lots wherever it might be probably 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.520 wouldn't be easy. Command you could get in with the 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.040 car clubs that want to sponsor this stuff. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.920 Yeah, that may not be a bad idea. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.280 There's that, that's your idea. I'll tell you go ahead. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.719 I think so I'll call it the Scott Blown Memorial. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:46.240 Pre Racing ville or I'm still yeah, well, I mean 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.040 you've got to get people an alternative otherwise. 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.520 Now if you you know, because well where are we 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:50.920 going to go do this? Well, there's nowhere to go 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.520 do it because privately people can't afford the insurance. But 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.640 certainly from the municipality or a government standpoint, you have 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.000 the opportunity or something like that. I think. So, yeah, 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.080 the other side, the other side of this, of course, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.760 when you talk about civil asset forfeiture, what bothers me 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.439 is and you say the antent of the spirit of 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.320 the law is this. But we know that municipalities, especially today, 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.480 when they're when they're they're crunch or cash. I mean, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.560 look at the speed camera scam that's been going on 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.000 for too long that they will look at as a 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.240 revenue stream. And so now anyone caught and maybe look 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.480 like they're racing, or two people driving fast at the 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.680 same time at a highway or road, hey, now we're 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.840 gonna nail you and seize your vehicle or hit you 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:31.760 with a huge fine. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:32.440 Uh. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.080 And if we get you a second time, great, we're 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.680 gonna We're gonna simply take your vehicle. And to think 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.680 that somehow we're not going to abuse that it can 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.880 be abused. I mean, I will look at some cases 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.120 around CVG for example, the DEA. Now that's federal, not local. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.600 But DIA got caught red handed not long ago. It's 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.200 CVEG shaking down what taking eleven thousand dollars on the passenger. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.880 There's a huge case and I think it was Oklahoma 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.760 or a deputy. There's a guy out raising money for 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.960 a Christian refugees and orphans and they took fifty three 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.920 grand in a traffic stop. He's on his way to 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.840 the bank. Never charged him, never had his day in court. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.720 They kept the damn money. This happens all the time, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.160 and it's such a big problem. In the last twenty years. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.720 You may not know this, but in the last twenty years, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.640 something like seventy billion dollars has been seized from individuals 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:19.960 like this, including vehicles. How do you make sure this 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.560 doesn't turn into a case of abuse by the government. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.720 Yeah, and I think you bring up Look, the civil 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:31.840 forfeiture issue is a real problem. I agree with that. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.200 This is not again, this isn't the case here. This 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:41.560 is going to be a state crime and it's it. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.160 And you're like, I mean, at the end of the day, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.720 you have your day in court, you get your car 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.600 back if you're found not guilty. Right, you know, at 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.800 some point we have to trust our legal process in 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.320 our course. And you're right, it's a balance. So I'm 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.680 not going to quaim it will never be a case 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.560 of a city trying to abuse this in Kentucky, and 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.160 certainly we don't intend that to be the case, and 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.560 certainly that we have our courts and have high level 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.120 of faith in our courts to see through that. But 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.480 like I said, this is very dangerous activity that's detecting 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.760 people's live and again right now, it's been a real 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.880 issue in Louisville, right and it comes up off and on, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.720 and you know, we just want to make sure that 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.520 there are the tools to make sure people are safe. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.120 And again, this isn't just a nuisance activity. This is 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.920 a deadly activity. So let's we have to kind of 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:30.640 put that in balance. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.400 Yeah, I get it's a big problem in Louisville, probably Lexington, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.840 and you know, you're closer to Cincinnati than you are 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.760 Louisville because you're a newport and you look across the river. 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.360 Not your problem, but you see what's happening in Cincinnati, 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.920 also in Dayton and elsewhere. So it's a problem across 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.080 the country and in spri state for sure. We'll see 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.080 where this goes, and I appreciate you joining the show. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.040 We'll probably follow up on this. I'm guessing the future. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.760 Is Kentucky Representative Matt Lehman joining the show here on 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.480 a Newport Matt, thanks again for the time. Man, It's 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.360 been great anytime. Thankscott, appreciate you. Be well. We'll get 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.400 to a news update then we'll talk about this with you. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.680 And if you think that this is good law or 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.520 could be right for abuse, my civil libertarian side of 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.920 the thing hates it. I'll be honest with you. I'll 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.639 tell you why. Also, if time allows the pause on 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.960 ice in Springfield, not the cold weather ice rather, but 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.040 of course immigration and customer enforcement that's been on pause 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.040 because of a judge and maybe an angle on this. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.919 It has been considered yet I'm going to offer, and 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.280 that are actually something called the facts of what it 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.320 is we're dealing with. For those who compare this to 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.399 what's happening in Minnesota, it's entirely two different things. And 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:38.040 I'll explain why next seven hundred ww plony back on 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:44.760 seven hundred WLW thanks again to Matt Layman, representative out 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:50.439 of Newport Campbell County, to talk about this proposal that 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.240 involves seizing a vehicle and crushing it if you're involved 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:58.800 in street racing, and that would be for the second offense, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.640 not the first offense. Up to one thousand dollars fine 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.600 for the first defense, six months jail, ninety day vehicle 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.560 impoundment if you are caught speeding, if you've caught well racing. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.560 I should say in granted, it's a large problem, but 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.760 I think there's a bigger problem this than that is. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.399 I look at this as someone who just doesn't trust government. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.400 I'm kind of old school that way. I'm a less 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.000 government kind of guy. Today we have people who claim 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.440 we want less government, but have no problem with more 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.960 government as long as the people they support and voted 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.600 for are doing it. And the problem with that logic. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.160 Rather than calling out those we supported and voted for, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.280 and without calling them out and saying, hey, listen, this 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.040 is this is not acceptable. That's what occurs is something 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.879 like this becomes law and it becomes abused because this 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.080 is ripe for abuse. We've seen this before I mentioned 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.080 that CBG, there was someone there's a few years ago 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.439 guys got like eleven thousand dollars cash on them, not 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:55.120 connected to a crime. You know, it's US legal currency. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.240 There's no reason to suspect this person was involved in 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.720 crime at all. And yet because it was that amount 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.280 of cash, they seized it and there was no hearing, 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.520 no due process, nothing whatsoever. They keep it to the 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.600 point where seventy billion dollars in the last twenty five 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.800 years has been seized by the FEDS with absolutely no 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.080 remedy to get that money back. I mean, you know, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.280 we know that state budgets, local budgets are squeezed, So 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:23.440 doesn't that give the government more incentive to be more 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.040 liberal in their application this law if they're looking to 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.520 increase their bottom line. Hey, we need money, we need roads, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.920 we need cops, we need speedcare. Speed camera is a 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.200 great example of that where it wasn't about stopping speeders, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:38.080 it was about getting revenue, revenue enhancement. And if you 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.000 simply go, well, my guys supporting this, my girls supporting 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:42.639 they are my person's against this, then this is what 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.520 you wind up getting. And it does fit into what's 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.520 going on to some degree right now in Springfield, Oh, 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:51.720 this is on hold, and I'll tie the two together here, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:59.200 same same example. And what is happening with those TPS 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.920 households in this ringfield areas? So as you well, where 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.280 about this point the judge, a federal judge, is ruled 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.000 against any action in Springfield right now, the administration is 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.200 going to appeal because they want agents to go into Springfield. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.600 And I think they had three out of there's up 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:18.280 to fifteen thousand. I think Haitian immigrants there, and there's 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.280 three hundred of them allegedly they're looking at, but it 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.840 could be more. And if there's three hundred people doing 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.600 wrong things, you know, you want to enforce the laws 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.880 in that regard. But I think that could be done locally. 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.879 I'm not quite sure. You know, it's like the folks 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:37.520 that are fighting in Minnesota right now, protesting. It's like, 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.400 you know, not all the people that they're rounding up 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.840 are good people. You know, you may be well putting 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.439 your life on the line or screaming and protesting to 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.080 protect someone who's getting hauled off, who certainly deserves it, 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.199 who's not only here illegally but also is involved in 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.919 a felony. Why would you why would you want that 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.240 person living in your neighborhood. It doesn't make any sense. 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.320 But the way this whole thing has been handled, it 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.720 doesn't make any sense at all. And the opposite side 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.600 is true as well. Now we are conflating because again 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.040 we have to be loyal to a person or a 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.919 party as opposed to the constitution. What's happening is the 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.600 same thing with ICE is like, well, wait, hold on, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:21.000 just a second, ICE and temporary protective status, that those 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.480 are two different things. You know, someone's here legally and 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.560 the breaking the law. Now most people would say, well, 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.600 just by being here legally, you're breaking the law, And sure, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.720 I suppose you are, and we deserve to know who 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.560 is on this side of our border, otherwise we're not 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.000 a sovereign nation, right. I think you can do this, 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.919 probably a little bit more surgical as opposed to a 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:47.080 catch all. But that is the chaos that has taken 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.399 root in America today, for sure. I think when it 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.320 comes though to those going, well, ICE is in Minnesota, 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.720 so we want to do the same thing in Springfield, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:00.800 It's an entirely different situation, all right. So temporary protected 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.760 status that is something that our government. Now maybe it 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.119 certainly was under a different administration. And you can end 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.840 this because it is temporary, But why are we into 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:16.200 get right now? And I bring it up because if 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.200 the conditions in Haiti and they're still in a state 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.160 of emergency by the way, I think since twenty twenty 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.520 four they went in a state of emergency and the 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.840 State Department is still warning Americans not to visit Haiti 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:30.679 because of kidnapping, crime, terrorism, civil unrestings like that. Gangs 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.680 still control about eighty percent of the capital city of 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.920 Porta Prince, and they've killed more than well thirty five 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:41.080 hundred people in the first in about six every six months. 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.760 Haiti has not had a president since the assassination of 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.919 the president in July twenty twenty one. Last time they 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.080 had elections was ten years ago. So going hey, you 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.840 know what, it's temporary, everything's okay, you need to go back. 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.719 It doesn't look that doesn't pass a sniff test, and 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.720 so what does that say about us. Comparing this and 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.560 equating this to what ICE is doing across the country 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.560 is silly because it's not the same thing. These are 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.840 people who were invited here and brought here by our 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:14.359 government and did so in places like Springfield that was 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.879 a dying community, and now I don't know if it's thriving. 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.159 I've been in Springfield a while, but it's certainly a 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.560 lot better off with the immigrants there. And I bring 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.920 this up because my bottom line is the bottom line. 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.879 It's about money, it's about capitalism, it's about enriching our 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.080 tax space and having people in the country that want 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.439 to do stuff and be productive, regardless of where they 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.879 come from. If you came here legally, it's a different story. 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.920 But these people were brought here legally by the United 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.879 States government. And so all right, let's wave the magic 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.960 wand and get rid of some ten to fifteen thousand people. 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.159 I don't know if they're can get roll of them. 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.840 It could just be a few hundred at this point. Again, again, 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:53.600 there is just so much extreme extremes and exaggeration that 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.800 it tends to drown out what the facts are. And 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.560 I tend to look at the facts. So if you 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:04.120 look at TPS whole an employment rate, this is nationally. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:05.840 I don't have the Ohio data in front of me, 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.600 but the rate of those people who come this country 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:16.520 under temporary protective status, their employment rate is ninety five percent. 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:23.639 Ninety five percent. The other five percent maybe I don't know, 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.439 stay at home parent could be someone who winds up 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.440 becoming disabled. But ninety five percent employment in that community 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.080 is astounding, which goes to show you what they are 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.639 here to work and do jobs that the rest of 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.440 us really think are beneath us. So for those that think, hey, 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:40.840 we know, we got to throw them all out because 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.240 they're eating dogs and cats, which is absolutely that's insane. 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.800 What's going to happen to Let's say the building trades 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:55.600 construction because a lot of the folks who come here 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.520 from those countries. In this case we're talking about Haiti. 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.879 Our men are in the construction field. We're talking industries 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:09.040 like you know, building in grounds, clear landscaping. Landscaping is 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.159 a really hard job. They're in the transportation that some 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.359 truck drivers, manufacturing retail. Food service is a big one. 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.320 Healthcare is a big one. There are thirteen thousand of 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.919 them are nursing assistants, eight thousand caregivers. There is are 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:26.600 Haitians alone who are taking care of our parents who 0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.439 are in assisted living or something on a situation like that. 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:31.919 Agriculture of course another big one as well. Some fifteen 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.399 thousand Haitians are in agriculture. These are jobs typically that 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:39.080 we look at going, yeah, swinging a hammer, I don't know, 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:44.760 working out in these elements, driving a truck. You know, 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.000 they're in truck drivings, a noble ocuams, So they are 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.760 all noble occupations. Healthcare is certainly a noble occupation, which 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.600 we need more of those bodies. So what happens if 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.679 we do this and now we're seeing the effects of this, 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:57.679 the chilling effect that it has is all these Haitians 0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.960 are winding out, leaving, going somewhere else because they affer 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.480 they're afraid they're going to get swept up, because they're 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.320 conflating with what Ice is doing. And that may or 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.240 may not be true. But again, if you're like, hey, 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.879 and these people bought houses, I mean, the real estate 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.359 market there turned around that I know about, Springfield's doing great. 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.919 And because Haitians came in and starting to manufacturing, came 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.760 in and created seven thousand jobs. Because say, hey, we've 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.840 got a steady base of people here who want to 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.399 show up to work, who are passing drug screening tests. 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.720 That's what we need to build stuff to get stuff done, 0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:28.600 and we're doing it in Springfield, and now we want 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.120 to turn that off. The question would be why, Well, 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.400 because temporary okay, but why are we ending this now? 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.159 The situation in Haiti is still as bad as it 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.720 ever was. And this is not from me, This is 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:46.280 from the Department of State. Now DHS is saying, well, 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.679 conditions are proved enough, safe return. But you talk to us, 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.680 it's like, well, they're still an emergency under State of Emergencies. 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:53.800 Still don't have a president in the last ten years. 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.399 The capital is completely run by gangs. Doesn't tull like 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.520 an area you should go to, But they're telling Americans 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:03.280 not to go there. Why are we evoking temporary protected status? 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.640 You know, that's all driven by elections. It's driven by 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.280 you know, getting out your core voters if you're Trump. 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.240 But I wonder too, in this climate and with the 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.359 midterm elections coming up, that's a smart thing to do 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:18.199 in Ohio. If you know the election is going to 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.679 be decided by razor thin margins, it's it's not a 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.440 good look. You know, go ice doing what they do 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.800 and finding bad people and rounding them up. That's what 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.280 President Trump was elected to do. No, no question about it. 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.480 Could you do it a little bit more gently and 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.000 persuasively and surgically, absolutely, But that that is not in 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.640 the nature of these guys. They tend to do things 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.960 and make a big deal, you know, tends to be 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.439 more well, maybe more shows sometimes in actual execution, we 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.040 just throw stuff out there and see what sticks. But yeah, 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:48.760 I get it, you know, not not all the people 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:53.639 were protests. There's people they're protesting and do you know 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.520 who you're fighting for? I guess it'd be the question 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.800 that particular individual, what's their story? Well they seem like 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.560 a nice guy, yeah, but wanted unfallily charges, you want 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.000 them living in your neighborhood. But we're gonna fight for 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.119 him anyway because it's us v them And that is 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.600 the blindness instead of just looking at it going the 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.800 problem is really government. We give them too much control. 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.399 This is what happens, and when they do things like 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.359 this and we don't call them out in their bs 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.040 even if we did vote for them, then what's going 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.120 to happen when the tide turns and the opposition gets 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.439 into power. So you want all this stuff change, and 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.520 you're a Democrat and a Republican gets in and we're 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.199 gonna go okay, well, that's just going to give them 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.200 more ammunition. I bring up the thing that Matt Lemon 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:36.040 was just talking about, and that is civil asset forfeiture. Okay, 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.760 it's bipartisan. He's a Democrat, Republicans are as well. But 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:41.920 what scares me about that is giving the government up 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.000 power and going, hey, second time we catch you speeding, 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:49.320 we're gonna seize your car and crush it. Wait what Okay, Well, 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.360 we know that the roads are dangerous out there, more 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.600 congestined than ever before, and we've got idiots out there 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.640 like Cam Taylor Britt. That's a great advertisement for what 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.960 it does they want to do. I get that, But 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.120 what scares me is as budgets get thinner and thinner 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.760 and thinner, aren't thinking to use those laws to maybe 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.560 stretch a little bit and go, well, yeah, maybe I 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.240 we think you were speaking, we think you were drag racing. Well, 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.960 what makes you think that? Why you're driving fast? 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:14.680 Well? 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:15.240 What is that? 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:15.640 What? 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.560 And it's not codified in this bill? Hall, what is 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.880 that I'm doing fifty and a forty five? Is it 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.840 eighty and a forty five? Is it double this with 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.520 there's no it's kind of just up to us. That 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.680 I don't like because then it opens the system up 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.840 for abuse. And if you encourage the stuff and turn 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.520 a blind eye because it's the person who supported and 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:39.040 voted for when the tides turn, it's they're not gonna go, well, 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.320 we got to go back the way it was. No, 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.600 they don't. They simply give government power. They don't give 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:47.200 that away. The next party in power simply goes, we're 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.480 gonna use it even We're gonna use it to the 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.560 same level, if not more, And then people get tired 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.280 of that and swing the next party and as it goes. 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.840 But againually it's the continual erosion, like boiling of You 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.400 know how you cook a frog. As you turn the 0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.800 heat up slowly, you don't throw it in boiling a 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.880 wat it'll hop out, But if you turned it out slowly, 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.040 the frog stays in and dies because the water's odd 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.240 enough to kill it. And I think it's the same 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.080 thing here as a matter of fact, anyway, So that's 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.800 on pause right now. We'll see what happens later in 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.440 the show. I want to get into the Savannah Guthrie thing. 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.520 I guess it's Nanty Guthrie. And now, of course anything 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.120 and everything is tied to Cincinnati. Every time we have 0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.680 a huge story, there's some connection, weird connection to Cincinnati. 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.880 And we learned that Nancy Guthrie, the eighty fourth of 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.000 the mother of Savannahuthrie, I from MDC News, as they noted, 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.640 d in academy graduate so as roots here in the 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.200 Tri State, which makes the story have a bitle of 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.200 a local feel to it, if you will. But it 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.160 is certainly bizarre. We'll get into that after eleven o'clock 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.600 this morning on the Scotslan Show on seven hundred Wow. 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.560 Here's the story that I did not get a chance 0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.240 to talk about the other day. And it's fascinating me 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:48.920 because you tend to focus on the wrong thing. So 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.600 we had a I got a space where I think 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.600 a couple college students that you see broke in the 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.080 fifth third and arena and tried to steal some alcohol. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.560 Makes sense, college students, and then you have a dude 0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.600 breaking into pay course stadium attempting to steal merchandise and 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.880 food forty two to Antonio. Churchill arrested Sunday after he 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.160 was caught on security camera breaking in the pay corps. 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.400 He forcefully opened the door into the stadium and walked 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.960 through the stadium until he was stopped by officers, responding, 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.040 he's charged with breaking an entry. It's like, Wow, the 0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:20.520 guy's in the pay corps in February stealing stuff, and yeah, 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.520 it's going to be in jail. He's he's locked up 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:23.840 right now. As a matter of fact, I think the 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.800 bigger question to me would be he was stealing merchandise. Okay, 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:34.080 there's a merchant and food. The Bengals season ended in 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.479 December and they're not going to open things back up 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.880 in the stadium till August. Is the real crime this 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.080 guy breaking in? Or is the real crime? Wait a minute, 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:50.080 there's food sitting. If you're holding on to food for 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.160 five six months, what are you gonna do with that? 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.840 Are you gonna I need to know what kind of 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.760 food this is now. I know that there's events that 0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.800 they host, different things there, maybe in some of the sweets, 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.160 and you know there's players that show. I don't know 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:03.960 how many are there this time of year, but you 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.640 know they have food in the But from what I understand, 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.360 this is like happened in the stadium area, not where 0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.040 the Bengal's offices training facilities are not conn be wrong 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:12.520 about that. It's kind of a hard It's just a 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.920 weird story. It's something wait, hold out, is the real 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.080 this guy breaking here of the fact that these guys 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.480 are holding on the on the hot dogs from last season? 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:20.040 Is that? 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.800 Please tell me it's like not hot dogs. We need 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.080 I think as a because maybe the person who reseat, 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.040 like Alisia Reese or somebody like that, and find out 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.720 this needs a deep die. I need to know what 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.400 kind of food and where the food was and what 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.680 it was for, because I don't know if I want 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:38.200 those nachos, certainly not getting the sushi to put it 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.880 that way. News on the way in about five minutes, 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.160 the other things to keep me up at night. How 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.520 about you coming up next to the show. I'm seven 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.200 hundred WLW. You may have heard this story. Ohio Representative 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.920 Adam Byrd from right here in Middletown is wanting a 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.360 ban on this name, image and likeness thing for high 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.640 school students. And this is quickly coming to a head 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.280 in Columbus and it begs a whole bunch of quat question, 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.440 is okay? Well, how prevalent by the way are these 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.560 high school deals and do we need to ban it? 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.240 How many people are being affected by this whole thing? 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.120 And I also contend speaking of the Constitution, now it's 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.880 your name, image and likeness. If you can make money 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.920 off it, it's America. You should be able to do that, 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.560 regardless of what the state of allegedly amateur athletics is. 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.560 We'll getting to Adam Bird's head about that coming up, 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.240 and just minutes here, quick time out. More to follow 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.400 on the Home of the Red seven hundred WT. Since 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:29.160 now here we go it Scott's flowing back on seven 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.680 hundred W all that, but just how much you get 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.320 through this, sour Julie Balki. A little bit later on 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.240 our curs Shirpo will get into the Nancy Guthrie abduction 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.640 and thoughts on that coming up first, though, Ohio high 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.760 school athletes were allowed to accept nil deal since November. 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.800 That's when the Ohio High School Athletic Association responded to 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.560 a lawsuit from a jamiir Bron who is an OSU 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.479 commit and they saw the writing on the wall one 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.080 I don't think we can win this, and so we'll 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.040 give in and we'll allow name, image, and likeness deals 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:02.360 as we do in college. For high school students. We 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:06.280 had a new bill out that would ban anil deals 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.120 less than a year before they started. One of the 0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.000 people who are co sponsoring this is our buddy representative 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.880 Adam bird the Birdman out of New Richmond and Claremont County. 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.560 How are you, hey, Scott. It's great to be with 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.799 you and looking forward to seeing what we can do 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:26.680 to protect our students in Ohio from what is happening 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:28.440 in college. 0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.040 Yeah, we saw what's unravelly college and some may say, well, 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:33.600 you know, let's go back to the way it used 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:34.759 to be. I don't think you could put the two 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.839 space back in the tube, but it comes a little 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.160 bit different in reality. How many kids in high school 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.520 high schools is this going to impact? Really, it's not 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.040 that many, is it, And therefore, if that's true, why 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:47.600 don't we need to roll this back? 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.040 Yeah, there's no way to know how many this effects because, 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.839 as you mentioned just a second ago, it's only been 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.880 in effect for a couple of months, and so I 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.320 do believe that this is going to unravel, and I 0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.719 don't think that we can allow the stand for the 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.600 for the benefit and protection of our young people. 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.920 Okay, so what is it you're trying to protect them 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.120 from exactly explain? 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.759 Well, that's yes, and so you know, I believe that 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.200 athletics and high school are an extension of the classroom. 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.880 They're co curricular activity that is responsible for helping to 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.640 teach students about character and discipline and work ethic and 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.120 communication skills and all of those things, and fitness. And 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.680 so that's the reason why we provide these opportunities for 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.680 our young people. It's not about how much money that 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.879 they can make, and that that kind of situation will 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.120 destroy amateur athletics and the good things that we've got 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:45.040 going on in high school. 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.719 Right now, I'll push back on that, goough, both of 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.680 those can exist at the same time, can't that. I mean, 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.920 we can put an emphasis on the classroom and character 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.200 and discipline, and probably even more so if money is involved. 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:57.440 And it's not gonna be a lot of money for 0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:58.880 most of these kids. It's gonna be a little bit 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.760 of money save maybe a couple athletes along the lines 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.480 that are so good at what they do and are 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.000 so coveted by colleges and professionals sports teams that they're 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:09.680 going to get some money throwing them, no doubt about. 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.319 But the bulk of kids just simply are looking for 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.160 something to do extracurricularly. This wouldn't affect them at all. 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.279 But for those few that would re benefit from the 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.200 NIL deal, how does this go against what you mentioned 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.280 in the learning And it doesn't to me, It doesn't 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:23.960 change it at them. 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.440 Well, you know, if you're going to have certain kids 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.880 on the team that are benefiting and others that are not, 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.040 you're going to degrade the team work like atmosphere that 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:40.880 exists in amateur sports that have a team approach, like football, 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:47.000 like basketball. And it's important that we protect what we've 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.560 got right now. And then the other thing that I 0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:53.920 would say, Scott, is this will turn into a recruiting situation, 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.759 a recruiting war where let's say a wealthy alumni of 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.480 a certain school that has a business wants to sign 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:06.160 a student to an NIL deal and on the on 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.640 the presumption that you will transfer to the school of 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.680 my choosing, and and so that's going to happen. 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.320 It's it's it's. 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:19.120 Virtually unavoidable at this point. And so when the school 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.799 is not allowed to know about this, we don't they're 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.640 not going to create collectives like they do at the 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.000 college level, and so the coach is not going to 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.520 supposedly know about it, the athletic director, the school administrator 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.560 is not going to know about it, and so they're 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.600 going to have a hands on approach. You're going to 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.919 have a I believe, a recruiting war based on who 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.960 has alumni that are wealthy enough to affect who attends 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:43.440 what school. 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.000 But isn't that going on now? 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:45.120 How? 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.120 I remember stories when I went to high school and 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.600 presumably you as well. What they're schools right now. I 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.640 won't name anybody in particular, but their schools now tend 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.040 to be more private and Christian. But they do this now. Well, 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:57.880 they'll take, you know, bring the family in, they recruit 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.120 an athlete and they'll put them up for free, like 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.640 like in housing. And so it's going on now. 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.759 Well, I agree there is recruiting going on now, and 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.160 yet it's not supposed to happen, and it's supposed to 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:13.640 be investigated by OHSAA. I don't think that they can 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.120 handle it. It's beyond their stripe and so this will 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.040 just make it worse, It will exacerbate it, and there 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.760 will be a recruiting war to create all star teams 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.239 based on who has wealthy alumni that are willing to 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:31.239 take their school down that path. And I just think 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:35.360 we see how this has ruined college athletics, and it's 0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.480 going to have the same impact at high school. 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.120 Yeah, I don't know if it ruined it. What we're 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.759 in flux right now. I think that's the thing. And 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.200 what's college and athletics look like in five or ten 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.319 years will be the question. We don't know, because it's again, 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.640 it's changing so quickly before eyes. It seems like it's 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.080 broken right now, but it may not be ultimately. If 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.280 you're a student or the parents of a student, shouldn't 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.799 you be able to profit off someone's namage? And like 0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.640 the why? Why why is the money? Why is it 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.960 a bad thing? I mean, I guess the team unity 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.960 and things, but you know, let's face it, we have 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.520 we have kids who are poor playing sports with kids 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.279 who are rich and kids you know have you know, 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.360 fifty thousand dollars cars and the other kids got to 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.759 walk to practice. So we already have that disparity. That's 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:14.319 nothing new. 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.360 Yeah, I'm not opposed to kids making money off of 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.839 their ability. But if they want to do that, they 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.439 ought to go to the Olympics, they have to join 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.560 a professional tour. They ought to go go get enrolled 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.080 in college early and get college in IL money. But 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.279 we want to protect what has been a pure amateur 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.520 situation in Ohio high school. And and you know that's 0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.400 you see what it's happening. Like, let's use the University 0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.279 of Cincinnati Bearcat quarterback who just transferred to I think 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.399 it was Texas Tech. He didn't transfer for a better 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.880 educational opportunity or a better major. He transferred because that 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.600 other school was willing to offer him five million dollars 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.759 And he's going to make more next year than the 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.840 Cleveland Browns starting quarterback over his entire five year contracts. 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:02.439 And this is this is to just continue to take 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:03.680 us down the wrong path. 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.560 Well should we be celebrating? I mean I look at 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.200 that and go wow, good for that kid. That's like 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.440 getting a full ride scholarship to Harvard I suppose. And 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.440 the educational side of this thing, and we don't look 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.680 at that going oh, grey, well, this kid's doing really well. 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.320 Or you know they're there kids that win science fairs 0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.839 and the company goes and buys their ideas. We celebrate that. 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.759 I don't distinct make that much potential in that and 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:25.800 what's going on in sports. 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:30.800 I guess, well, I guess we may have to disagree 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.279 on that, Scott, because I believe that we need to 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.040 protect our students from agents. We need to protect our 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.520 students from tax advisors. We need to protect our students 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.160 just like we do in child labor laws. We protect them. 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.319 And this is the people are going to come after them. 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.399 They're not ready psychologically or mentally to handle this kind 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.280 of pressure. We've seen how over the last a couple 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:55.960 of decades it's the number of suicide among college athletes 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.680 is doubled. And so we need to protect them from 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.520 this kind of pressure, protect them from becoming some kind 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.200 of influencer, and they should be there to learn and 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:06.760 grow and not to earn an income. 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:08.880 Represent of Adam Bird out of Clement County of the 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.600 show proposing to stop nil for high school athletes here 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.840 in the Buckey States, CO sponsored that piece of legislation. 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:18.799 You know, I look at this and okay, name age 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:20.759 in life. I don't know how much your typical high 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.880 school athlete's going to get, if anything, it could be 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.360 like fifty bucks or something like that, because most schools 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.799 in Ohio are rural and maybe I don't know, there's 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.000 a local oil change place goes okay, fine, we'll give you. 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.040 I don't give you like one hundred bucks a month. 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.280 It's that that big a concern because I would dig typically. 0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.560 You know, you mentioned the outliers, the kids making millions 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.080 of dollars, which are it's extremely rare. But if a 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:41.680 kid does get one of these things, it's only going 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.560 to be for a little bit of money. Anyway. Is 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.920 this a you know, killing an aunt with a sledgehammer? 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.839 Yeah, I don't think. I mean, you made some assumptions there, 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.640 and I'm I'm going to push back on you a 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.000 little bit. I don't think that you can just assume 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.200 that it's going to be fifty dollars. I don't think 0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.760 that you can assume that's going to happen in rural areas. 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.600 I think the rich will get richer so to speak, 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.200 when it comes to talent at certain schools. And you know, 0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.479 it should not become a bidding war, a recruiting war 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.280 based on money. It should be about, you know, where 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.200 it's the best educational choice. Option for my child so 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.759 they can grow and be ready to contribute to society. 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.160 And so we're trying to protect the children. We're trying 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:27.759 to protect the school opportunity, and we don't want this 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:30.279 to become a recruiting war based on money, the way 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:31.160 it's happened in college. 0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.839 Yeah, I think too, it's already become that. And if 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.319 you're to go back, I think the problem is mom 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.399 and dad have leaned into this themselves in a sense. 0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.120 Is that okay, in banning the n will be one thing, 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.280 but to really address the root costs of the problem. 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.600 And you said, you know this is about amateur sports. 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.359 I don't know how amateur it is. When you have 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.120 you know, trainers and coaches and agents and you're not 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.640 you can't ban that. The competition from you know, youth 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.440 on to get in a travel league, to get in 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.760 this to are pushed to have a calling to play 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:05.200 a particular sport or sports. And of course, the more 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:09.040 mom and dad invest in their athletic career, the more 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:10.799 that they see as at stake. And a lot of 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.239 parents think wrongly so that their kid's going to get 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.320 a college scholarship and go play professional sports when odds 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.000 are you know, very very much against Rocky Boyman could 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.760 talk about how hard that is here on seven hundred 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.000 WW this afternoon, But I look at it and go, well, 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.440 you know, if this is about the semantics of education 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.399 putting that first, didn't mom and dad throw that out 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:29.359 the window a long time ago? 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.480 Well, there's no doubt that mom and dad are spending 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.880 a lot of money on their children's travel team. And 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.400 you know, if you're going to add in there and 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.920 a presumption now that mom and dad are investing all 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:44.800 of this money in your travel team and your travel 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:48.000 opportunity right that now you're going to help reimburse mom 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.240 and dad based on what you might be able to earn. 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.880 I think that's tremendous pressure on a young person that 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:55.000 we don't want. 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.120 And again, but it's happening. I know it's happening right now. 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.239 Well, no, and IL is not happening right now. Kids 0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.400 are not getting paid right now. And OSSCA would like 0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.600 to take us down this path. And may I remind 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.520 you Scott that they are only doing this because one 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.359 judge in Hamilton County issued or ruling and so they 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.600 made a change. And I don't think that we should 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.760 take the entire state of Ohio down this path because 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.400 one judge and Franklin County made this decision, and I 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.840 believe that this is an important enough issue that the 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.360 state legislator should weigh in on this. And if my 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.279 colleagues decides that I'm wrong, then at least we considered it. 0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:32.600 Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:32.719 No. 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:34.680 I mentioned it's happening now in the sense that you know, 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.600 their schools even before this NIL deal was struck, that 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.200 we're essentially paying the parents to come move here and 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.200 stay of getting their district and go to school academies 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.040 and things like that. I mean, it is happening now. 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.440 It's also happening that you know, there's tremendous pressure for kids, 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.239 not just in the athletics, but especially academics, as you mentioned, 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.560 where kids a suicide rate and the mental health issues 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.799 among college students out of all time high, simply because 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.160 of that pressure that's put on them by people in 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.600 there inner circle name their own families. I don't know 0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.239 if NAL's it probably will contribute to that somewhat, but 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.120 that's already the reality for a lot of college students. 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.359 Whether there's student athletes or not. 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.960 Well, there's there's scientific data out there that show that 0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:19.000 college athletes are committing suicide at double the rate that 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:22.160 they work twenty five years. Again, that is a scientific fact. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.480 And we are putting tremendous pressure on these people at 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.160 age nineteen, twenty twenty one. And I don't think that 0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:31.280 we should do that to fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year olds. 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.160 And we're trying to protect our children from people who 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.560 want to come down and take advantage of them based 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.839 on their athletic skills. And we need to protect our 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.120 kids from these kinds of people that want to come 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.440 in and take advantage of them. 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.560 Yeah, and okay, it's double where it was, but the 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.759 suicide rates for college students who aren't student athletes are 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:55.080 paced up there. It went up like something like sixty 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:58.719 percent over the last twenty years. That's increasing at the 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.840 same ratio. And so it's not student athletes. It's all 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.560 college students, and that is because of the tremendous pressure 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.200 we put on college students, not let alone those who 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.560 are student athletes. It's all college models. The problem is 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.360 that we think the way to you know, having a 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.319 perfect life is to go to college. We know that's 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.200 that true. We're starting to rethink those whole things. It's about, 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.600 you know, the person themselves, as opposed to the degree 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.360 that you're having on the wall. We've overvalued college education 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.400 and we're starting to see that come back down, and 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.239 I think the athletic part certainly fits into that. I 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:26.680 agree with you. 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:32.879 Yeah, so you know this bill is about returning the 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.520 the OHSAA amateur status law to what it used to be. 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.960 I don't want to micromanage OHSAA. I don't want to 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.080 oversee their every move, but I do think that we 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.440 need to say no, we're going to move backwards. And 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.080 I might remind you to Scott that we have done 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.879 this twice in the past when it comes to transcender 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.920 eligibility and the state legislature said no, we're going to 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.040 protect our girls. We also said no to OAHSAA a 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:01.120 couple of years ago on the issue cash when you 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.320 attend the game, and we require them to accept cash 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:04.920 when you. 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:05.480 Want to enter. 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.560 Isn't this going to create a black market again? I 0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:12.000 mean it existed before. There's schools out there that were 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:15.600 doing this long before. Nil Adam Bird that we're recruiting 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.720 kids from different districts or held different states of that matter, 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.880 finding jobs for mom and or dad, putting up at places, 0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:25.600 and essentially they're getting de facto payment, maybe not cash, 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.759 and maybe some walking around money from the booster's life 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:31.320 for very powerful schools, not necessarily public schools, private schools. 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:33.719 How would that apply to the how to fix it? 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:35.520 Wouldn't this just create a black market? They just go 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.640 back to the way they've voiced done it, and then 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.280 you still have. 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.680 Yeah, I don't know that there's there's been that kind 0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.279 of situation. Maybe there has and I'm not been aware 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.239 of it. Lady mom or dad. Yeah, so you know, 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.440 I don't think that we should I don't think that 0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.320 we should add to that. Again, this is about protecting 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.399 our kids from a situation that they're not prepared for. 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.120 You we're talking about teenagers here. They're talking about teenagers 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.120 that's going to need a tax advisor, They're going to 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.680 need an agent, they're going to be entering into contracts, 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.239 and you've got to be careful about protecting our young 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.200 people from the people that want to take advantage of them. 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.480 Now, well, I think they also get some if they're 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.359 getting big money, they're getting some of those too. It's 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:22.960 not like they're complete victims. Well, I mean the composition's 0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:23.399 pretty good. 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.000 I want to do that if you want. If you're 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.759 so uber talented that you're capable of taking advantage of 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.520 the athletic giftedness, then you need to go to the Olympics. 0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.279 You need to go to a tour, a professional tour. 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.400 You need to go to college early and go Aaron College. 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.840 And I owe money. 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.400 You mentioned the protection thing, so doesn't that I mentioned 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.520 the model that existed for a long time where at 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.879 private schools that they do this. I don't know how 0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.359 how often it does, but it still has happening right 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.239 now as a matter of fact, where you have, you know, 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.360 kids recruited from other areas to move back to the 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.279 district in order to play for their team, and then 0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.560 of course the family winklink is taken care of. How 0:48:58.600 --> 0:48:59.560 would this protect them? 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.480 Yeah, well, I mean you point out that recruiting is 0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.960 happening today and yet OHSAA deems that are legal, and 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:11.279 so recruiting happens anyway. And I don't think that they're 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:13.719 going to be able to police the situation that they're 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.120 putting in place here, and they're not going to be 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.359 able to investigate all of that. You're going to put 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.040 You're going to put now a burden upon the school administrator, 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.759 the athletic director of the coach to help police this, 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:30.040 to make it to inform OHSAA on these kinds of things. 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:33.840 And I just we're opening a can of worms that 0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:37.560 I don't think is the reason why the public tax 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:41.960 payer pays or weight rooms, stadiums, gymnasiums so that they 0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.200 can have an extension of the classroom. And now we're 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:47.719 going to allow people to take advantage of these young 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.960 children that well they're not young children, but they you know, 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.760 they're not of age, and take advantage of them based 0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.359 on facilities that have been sent by the text player. 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.400 Adam final point is is this a nanny state issue? 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:03.960 Does this feels like nanny state to me? 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:11.000 Well, I think we have a duty. Okay, we have 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:15.320 a duty and responsibility as a government to protect our children. 0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.160 And we've got people that want to use the situation 0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:20.160 to take advantage. 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.080 But my point is if the parents are okay and 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:23.839 they lean into this, going wow, I've got the next 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:27.040 year borrow here, we can get some money, Well, how 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.600 is it? Why is it the state's obligation to protect 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:30.920 that child from their own family. 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.520 Yeah, we do this all the time. And you know, 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:38.160 we can talk about multiple examples of how we try 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:42.200 to protect children and and so you know, it's again, 0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:45.839 they're not emotionally stable, they're not ready for the kinds 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.560 of pressure that we're going to place upon them. And 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.799 we want to protect the reason that we created these 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.440 athletics in a first place, which is an extension of 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:58.200 the classroom. It's not it should not be, I believe, 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:00.680 and I hope to convince my college league that it 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.920 should not be about allowing these young people to be 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:08.120 preyed upon. We went and protect them and preserve what 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:09.040 we've had in the past. 0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:11.640 Are you hearing a lot from constituents supporting it or 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:12.680 is it just simply too early? 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:18.920 You know, mostly I think people constituents are listening and learning. 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:24.160 But who I'm hearing mostly from our school administrators and 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:28.240 coaches who are very much opposed to this. And remember 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.680 that there were a couple of hundred schools who have 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.600 stained from this vote. They did not want to go 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.120 down this vote. Others have told me that they didn't 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.040 want to vote yes, but they voted yes because they 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:40.439 felt strong armed by OHSAA. So most of the people 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.960 that I'm hearing from are those that are actually in 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:43.760 the school community. 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.920 Now they're worried about this Jimy Brown laws that's going Hey, 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:48.680 you know, win in violation of that. It's going to 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.520 cost us a lot more money. We just acquiesced, even 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.440 though we think it's wrong. But no, I'm interested to 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.399 see Adam how this thing plays out. I appreciate coming 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.320 on this morn and answered tough questions, and we'll continue 0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.480 the discussion probably at the other date. Add Richmond, I'm sorry, 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.719 Adam bird out in New Richmond, claimout Conney, thanks again, 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:07.160 but I appreciate coming on absolutely. Scott, thanks, thank be 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.160 well be well. 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How are you good, lying? 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:41.520 I am fantastic good. 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.800 We've often talked in the past about well, for example, 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.279 the CEO and the CFO that we're you know, at 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.239 the at the at the concert and then they were 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.480 banging and they got probably got fire. They had resigned. 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.480 It was a big ugly thing. And also we've had 0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.759 people posting stuff on social media that's gotten them fired. 0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.880 We know the boundaries there. There's a local case here. 0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.120 I think it's a little bit different though. This guy's 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:03.680 a mail carry out of Fairfield. Jason Thompson has been 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.520 a mail care for more than two decades. They put 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.520 him on leave after the last big snowstorm because he 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:13.480 posted his frustrations on Facebook about working in conditions that 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.560 were not optimal, and they said, hey, they showed up. 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.880 They're no trucks, there's nothing to deliver. But they wanted 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.439 us to dig out our trucks by hand without any 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.000 equipment to do so. I'm sixty years old. I'm not 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:25.879 in the best shape, you know, I'm sixty. Everything hurts 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:27.960 at this age. I get you. They plowed a lot, 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:29.759 but pushed all the snow up against the trucks they 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.239 were supposed to dig this alid by hand. And he 0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.000 complained about this on Facebook during this level two snow 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.480 emergency that we had, and the end result is the 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:39.919 postal Service pulled him off the job for a little 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.719 bit of time, I think a few hours anyway, before 0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:44.840 the union got involved. But you know, this feels like 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.040 a whistleblower thing to me as opposed to an actual, 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.279 you know, doing something stupid on social media. How does 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.200 this work in the real world in the workplace. 0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:54.520 Yeah, so we've talked to I think we've referenced this, 0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:59.759 but there is there are so many cases winding their 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:02.960 way through the system right now of people who were 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:08.960 fired for posts on their private social media and the 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.319 courts were you know, it is. It is a mess 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:15.080 right now in terms of what really does violate your 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.200 company's code of conduct or ethics or contract or whatever 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.400 it is when you post it. And you know, I 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:24.080 can give you points on both sides as why it's 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.640 from or why it's right, but in this case, it's 0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.800 interesting he simply posted this is unsafe, this is dangerous, 0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.879 this is unsafe, and you know, like you said, they 0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.319 they put them on leave for a few hours. Then 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:41.440 the union got involved, or the post office realized, oops, 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:42.960 you know, we're not going to win in the court 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.120 of public opinion here, or we don't have a leg 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.520 to stand on, and so we need we need to 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:51.359 put the genie back in the bottle if we can. 0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.480 And you know, if I was thinking about this, can 0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.360 you know this whole rain or sleet or even snow 0:54:59.160 --> 0:54:59.600 that we. 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:00.920 That's not true anymore? 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:07.279 What are so used to looking outside and the mailman's 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.120 trudging through two or three feet of snow, And but 0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:12.120 I start thinking about the mail I get in my 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:16.600 mailbox every day because so much is available online. I'm 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:20.279 not gonna I'm not going to miss the flyer for 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.560 a window replace if it doesn't deliver for a day 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:23.879 or two. 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.600 Yeah, you know, a couple of generations ago. You go 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.520 to the mailbox, Oh, I got bills, I got a 0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:31.280 I got two dollars from Aunt Dorothy for my birthday. 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.840 I got that doesn't happy give out to the mailbox. 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.880 It's depressing because ninety nine percent of its trash and 0:55:36.920 --> 0:55:39.160 the other they are bills. Like, I don't want to 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.520 go to my mailbox anyways. It's a box of depression. 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:45.160 Julie, but you know, like you said, us be the 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:47.000 highlight of the day. I remember we used to get 0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:48.680 when I was grown up. We got the newspaper in 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.200 the morning and the newspaper in the evening, and like 0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:53.319 so much had changed during the day, but it was 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:56.200 like we would go oud look for it because it 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.920 was our only source, the only way we got bills. 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.760 We got that card from Aunt Martha, and we understood 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.680 what was happening. And so the world has changed so much, 0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:09.799 and I understand that that, especially if you're older, you 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.080 still may as I am, but I don't. I get 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.640 most everything online, and I get that service from the 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:18.080 post office, which is wonderful that tells you what's coming 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:21.160 in your mail and so you can see it online 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.600 what's coming before it shows up. So the world has 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:27.040 changed in terms of how we get information, and so 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.759 I think it's time as we look at this what 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.000 makes sense. It's not what makes sense in terms of 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:37.480 employee safety. What makes sense in terms of you know, 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.280 what the people expect, And there's very little we can't 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.640 live a day without, especially when we get so much 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.800 paperless anymore. So I think it's you know, in this space, 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:51.480 I'm like, come on, the guy expressed his opinion, his opinion, 0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:56.240 and I think clearly they looked at it and said, Okay, 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.400 you know we're not going to win here, because if 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:00.719 you're being asked to dig your time out by hand 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:06.319 give to take people their advertisements, there's something I think 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.160 they need to purse my personal opinions. They need to 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:12.879 step back and take a look at what are the expectations. 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:14.759 I know there's been talk about limiting the mail to 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:16.640 three days a week. You know, all those sort of 0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.920 things have been talked about, and we will get there someday. 0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:23.560 But I think when you look at your people and 0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:27.000 clearly they have a union for this, that's reasonable. You know, 0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.080 if the whole town is shut down, if Kroger is 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:33.000 shut down, I think we've got to look at reasonableness 0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:38.000 instead of standing on this rain, sleep, snow, hurricane. You 0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.120 know you will get your advertising. 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:41.840 I don't think, honestly, I don't think that's the way. 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.560 I mean, moneys don't. We didn't get mail at our house, 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:48.040 A mailman didn't, and a jeep I don't think that. 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.480 I think that hole in the rain are still seats now. 0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.120 I think it's like if we get you most days 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:53.720 of the week. We're good. I think I think the 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:54.640 model's changed. 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:57.920 Yeah, yeah, and not. 0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.920 Only that's I'll point out to Julie in this case, 0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.560 he said, there are no trucks coming to drop stuff up. 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:04.480 We had nothing to deliver. They're just making us clean 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.080 our trucks out, to clean our trucks out. 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:09.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it was. Well, we're 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:13.320 paying you, we're going to have you do something right. Well, Susan, 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:17.040 what case is leadership or whatever you want to call it, 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.840 We'll just call it loosely leadership of organizations. And the 0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:24.960 more you know, it's a government organization, right, and so 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:29.040 there's not generally a lot of agility or a lot 0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:33.520 of thinking around is what we're doing still makes sense. 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:37.120 And believe it is not just government organizations. It is many, many, 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:39.600 many that are really stuck in this is the way 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:44.240 we've always done it. And that is that's really dangerous 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.480 because you can't. You've got to keep up. Whether you 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.600 agree or not with what's going on in the world, 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.640 you have to keep up if you expect to attract 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.400 and retake retain good people. And this generation, these people 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.480 you're trying to attract to take on these mail routes. 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:00.000 They're not going to do that. 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.320 And again, rin your hands, clutch your hurls. But you 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:05.640 can't argue against what is. And so what can you 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:09.960 do to change your environment, change the culture, change the expectations. 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.840 And if you are in a situation where it is 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.600 a real disaster for you if you miss your mail 0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:18.720 for one day. You have someone who's who's pretty adept 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.040 at technology, have them help you learn how to do 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:26.720 things online, do things paperless. Right, It's I mean, it's yeah, 0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:28.280 there's a little bit of a learning curve if you're 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:32.120 not used to that, but it's going to reduce the anxiety. 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.360 And people are even send your birthday cards by my 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:35.320 text now. 0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:37.280 So right, you just get a text happy Birthday with 0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:40.040 some emojis. Good enough, She Julie Balki Our career Sure 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.040 up every Wednesday morning on the Scots Slone show. Today 0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:45.360 it's about this Fairfield postal worker that got suspended for 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:47.960 a little bit because he posted pictures of them having 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:49.720 to digular on trucks of a lot and so that 0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:51.760 we don't do that. It's like and I'm older and 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.360 it's like they didn't give us any shovels and the 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.440 snow is really high and we're not delivering stuff anyway. 0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:58.000 With that was the plant of this because he saw 0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.560 it as a safety issue. Is that the distinction here? 1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:04.040 I mean, you post, you bleep, post stuff about your employer, 1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.480 You're probably going to get talked to. You make it 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.720 yelled at, you make get suspended, you might get fired. 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.320 But if it's a safety issue, is that different. 1:00:12.760 --> 1:00:17.080 I think it's harder to it's harder to make it 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:21.080 stand up if you are asking someone to do something 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:25.160 that you know that literally they're saying to everyone, stay 1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:27.760 at home, stay off the roads, just just for your safety, 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:30.400 you know, don't don't get out there. You have to 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:32.680 look at what is what the community at large is 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:34.840 being asked to do, what the school's doing where I 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:39.040 mean companies were. I mean you have to look at 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.840 what's reasonable inside of that instead of taking a stand 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.680 and saying no, you know, get out there and clean 1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.720 off your vehicle. It's I mean, be treat your people 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.920 like the humans they are. If you have bad performance 1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:54.640 or bad behavior, that's one thing. But if somebody, if 1:00:54.680 --> 1:01:00.320 somebody raises what could reasonably be called a safety issue, 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:02.880 I think you have to instead of just responding and 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:06.200 saying you're suspended, you have to step back and say, 1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:08.920 you know, so and so raised a good issue. We 1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.080 you know, will take a step back and look at this, 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:15.200 and you know this this I'm I'm a leader, I'm 1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:17.200 your boss, I know the best, do what I do, 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:19.880 what I tell you to do. That style is not 1:01:19.960 --> 1:01:23.000 working anymore. And again, if you don't like it, sorry, 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:25.760 but it's it's just the way it is, and there's 1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:29.480 got to be some room for flexibility and reasonableness. 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:31.880 Now we only know part of the story here too. 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:34.640 It could very well if that person went to management 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:35.880 and said this is well, why are we doing it? 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:37.560 And that's to shut up and do it anyway, then 1:01:37.640 --> 1:01:40.800 that's valid. But if they, instead of complaining, decided to 1:01:40.840 --> 1:01:43.720 put pictures up on social media, they may have a 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:45.439 legitimate compliant. Does that change things? 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:52.360 I mean maybe, because people. 1:01:52.160 --> 1:01:54.520 Often will jump to social media's for you know all 1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:57.160 escalator rightther and going hey, what about the you know, 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.640 the passive aggressive thing. So many people now are passive 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.320 aggressed of like, well, why wouldn't you just tell me 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:04.800 that this is a problem instead of going and making 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:06.040 a big deal out if you had asked me, I 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:08.280 would go, hey, maybe you're right about what what happened, 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:10.800 just you know, communicating communication. We don't know if that 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:12.600 happen here though, we. 1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:14.880 Don't know, we don't And I think it's you've got 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:18.560 to look at this and say this Probably going to 1:02:18.880 --> 1:02:22.360 the leadership at the local level and saying this makes 1:02:22.360 --> 1:02:24.360 no sense is probably not going to get to anywhere. 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:27.200 Let's be honest. I mean, maybe the union as a 1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:30.640 whole could take this to the table, into the conversation. 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:34.800 But we are seeing and this is not always good, 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:39.880 but we are seeing that public pressure has a really 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:45.280 strong impact on companies, on humans, that we're seeing it 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:49.160 in every sector of society. And again, you know, it's 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:52.920 sometimes it's so cringey and other times like yeah, I 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:55.840 mean once, once your bad behavior was put into the 1:02:56.560 --> 1:02:59.120 into the spotlight, you had to change your behavior because 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:01.120 you weren't going to do it any other way. So 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.440 we're seeing that play out in real time in every 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:07.040 sector of life. So I'm actually not surprised if they 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:11.120 said see you later and then they you know, and 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:13.360 then they said, oops, never mind, come back to work. 1:03:13.840 --> 1:03:17.120 So this is something that someone has to be the 1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:20.040 one to surface the problem, and then the power the 1:03:20.040 --> 1:03:22.800 people that have the power have to decide or get 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:24.640 to decide. I guess what to do about it. And 1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:27.040 they might say go back to work, but don't ever 1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.560 do that again or you'll get fired. They might say that, 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:34.080 you know, and but it's social media gives us incredible power, 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.960 and it's sometimes used for good and it's sometimes not 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:43.400 so much. And that's all that's I would say, I'm 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:45.280 so glad it wasn't the thing when I was Wow. 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:48.680 So it's always changing. That's that's the nature of it. Children. Yeah, 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:51.440 in that regard, I look as go, okay, well, so 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:52.880 what's the take away from someone working right now? I 1:03:52.880 --> 1:03:54.520 was like, well, this thing at work? Should I put 1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:56.840 something up online? I mean, what, what's what should be 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:58.320 the checklist in your mind for stuff like this? 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.200 If I post this is what I think all the 1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:08.200 time about what I post. 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:10.480 Okay, what's the worst. 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:13.920 Thing that could happen now when we are in our emotions, 1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:16.440 when we are feeling like this is wrong and I 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:19.320 got to tell the world about it. If we don't 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:24.200 take that extra step to sit back and say, okay, 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:26.880 I want to post this. If you're really strongly about it. 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:29.360 What's the worst thing that could happen? In this case, 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:32.680 he might have said, I could lose my job. Is 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:34.560 it worth losing my job for? And he might have 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:37.040 said heck yes, Or he might've not even had that 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:39.400 extra thought. He might have just an other world needs 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:44.400 to know about this. So thinking about the downside before 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:47.560 you post, and then decide, am I okay? Like if 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:51.280 you post something and what if this goes What if 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:54.480 this goes viral? What if all of a sudden, you know, 1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:57.120 tens of thousands of people are posting this and coming 1:04:57.160 --> 1:04:59.440 in and give my giving my business a one star review? 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:00.600 I live with that. 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:03.640 So you really have to imagine am I always going 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:06.360 to be proud of what I posted? Am I going 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:09.080 to be willing to defend it? And so that we 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:12.680 see examples of this everywhere where you think what were 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:16.160 you thinking? That goes through my head so many times 1:05:16.200 --> 1:05:19.920 a day when I see things people post like what what? 1:05:19.920 --> 1:05:21.640 What is the thinking here? And a lot of times 1:05:21.720 --> 1:05:24.520 there isn't any thinking, And the other time maybe there is. 1:05:24.680 --> 1:05:26.800 And I don't care what people you know, I don't 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:29.040 care what kind of backlash I get to. You get 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:31.000 to decide that. But then you have to live with 1:05:31.040 --> 1:05:32.320 the consequences of what you do. 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:36.640 Is it tend to be more generational because I think, 1:05:36.680 --> 1:05:38.920 you know, younger people, there is the time my daughter's 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:41.440 posted stuff and going take that stupid what are you doing? 1:05:41.520 --> 1:05:44.160 You're going to You're not thinking of the implications of this, 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:47.120 you know, and you'll go, yeah, yeah, you know, you're right, 1:05:47.160 --> 1:05:49.120 Well I feel this way. Well, just because you feel 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.840 that way doesn't mean you know, you're employer could look 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:54.600 at this and go, yeah, we got some problems right there. Yeah, 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:56.560 you can exercise your First Amendment rights, but it is 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.200 not an absolute right that you have. There are limits 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:01.520 in your eployer. If it's your employer, you got problems there. 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:03.320 On the other hand, you know, we often talk about 1:06:03.520 --> 1:06:05.520 especially the older workers, and I think you know, when 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:08.960 we start talking about term limits for presidents, be it 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:11.160 you know, seventy or seventy five, whoever it might be, 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:14.440 I think that's a good idea because the older you get, 1:06:14.480 --> 1:06:16.200 the more out of touch you get with the with 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:18.440 the current state of values, and it's always changing. It's 1:06:18.440 --> 1:06:20.360 never don't give me this, it's the way it used 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:23.280 to be. It's never going to happen America is always 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:26.760 changing for that reason, so as we get older, we 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:29.000 get less in touch with what the current zeitgeis to 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:31.800 the current fields are, or the the way the direction 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:34.439 the country's headed or or communities headed. That's just natural. 1:06:34.480 --> 1:06:36.320 It's always happened, happened when we were well, we didn't 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:38.040 have this when we were younger. Yeah we did. It 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.000 was just it's not as extreme or different than this 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:43.040 because our parents and grandparents bitched about how stuff was 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:44.840 when they were kids, and then we just looked at 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:49.000 them and all, please stop. And it's that's the way 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:50.720 we evolve in America. And so I think the same 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:52.840 thing is here too, is that. Yeah, maybe younger people 1:06:52.880 --> 1:06:54.800 not thinking about it, But then there's older people that 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:57.760 are putting stuff up there. They are saying things that 1:06:57.800 --> 1:06:59.720 wind up getting in trouble for because they think this 1:06:59.840 --> 1:07:01.520 is the way it used to be and it's not anymore. 1:07:01.560 --> 1:07:03.680 So I think the two ends of the spectrum are 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:05.680 the reality. 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:09.280 Yeah, And you know, it's when you get older you 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:13.920 don't sometimes really understand how it works. How There was 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:16.760 this case, this thing recently that happened a furniture store 1:07:16.760 --> 1:07:17.840 in Clarkfield, Tennessee. 1:07:18.440 --> 1:07:19.600 The guy's wife. 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:24.520 Posted something really horrible and like everybody who shows up 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:27.000 to a protest deserves to be shot. I mean it 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:30.680 was like it was that that like direct and guess 1:07:30.680 --> 1:07:36.720 what the backlash against his furniture store, their furniture store, 1:07:36.840 --> 1:07:38.200 even though it was the wife and I don't know 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:42.360 how involved he all, but the backlash was and he 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:45.560 came out there and tried to quell it. But I'm 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:49.320 sure I'm sure she's mortified that she's Look, she still 1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:51.920 may think that way, but I'm sure she's mortified that 1:07:51.960 --> 1:07:53.640 she posted it and put it out there in public, 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:55.240 because I don't think and these people are probably in 1:07:55.240 --> 1:07:58.160 their fifties, I would guess, so just we don't think 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:02.560 about we get so in our own bubble that we 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:06.760 don't think about how the person who thinks one hundred 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:09.400 and eighty degrees differently than we do, all they might 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.640 respond to this, and what the backlash might be. 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:13.800 And extremes are I Matt, with extremes, that's the that's 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:15.800 the probable. And you know what's really weird about that story. 1:08:15.960 --> 1:08:18.640 It was in where the Carolinas, I think, and you know, 1:08:19.160 --> 1:08:21.240 I'm sure the woman's mortified. She canna be more mortified 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:23.439 when she's got to live out of her car because 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:25.519 they're gonna close that store. Is there's a furniture store 1:08:25.520 --> 1:08:27.400 I think in Northern Kentucky or Kentucky that had the 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:30.200 same name, and people were dosing that store and guys like, 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:32.800 that's that's not We're not the same company, and I'm 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:36.040 not the same guy. And so you know, people just 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:38.479 lob handgrid at each other now without even getting it right. 1:08:39.080 --> 1:08:41.559 It's incredible. She's Julie Bouki. Our career shirp. 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You used to see it more often, 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:18.520 and you don't see it anymore. And that is allegedly 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:20.920 the ransom. What so the dynamics behind this to me 1:09:20.960 --> 1:09:22.559 are fast. And I was talking to a law enforcement 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:26.880 professional who she'll rename be named nameless. I guess I 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:29.280 should say, I talk for a living, don't worry about it, 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:32.439 and it's some interesting stuff they pointed out you may 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:34.000 not think of when it comes to trying to find 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:37.160 out the person responsible. Of course, bring this lady back alive. 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:39.280 That's on the way after news on seven hundred WW 1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:42.040 since now five thousand dollars that's the average amount of 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:47.080 money people in the Scott's loan. This is seven hundred 1:09:47.160 --> 1:09:50.519 w wel w on this midweek morning, about halfway there. 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:53.040 Baby almost made it, almost made it to the tipping point. 1:09:53.560 --> 1:09:57.240 So much going on in our world, but also this, 1:09:57.240 --> 1:09:59.080 this is one of those things that you look at 1:09:59.120 --> 1:10:01.360 and it's just a horrible sit situation obviously, but I 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:03.280 think we're all fascinated to some degree by it. And 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:07.240 of course talk about the disappearance of Notre Dame Academy 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:10.840 alumni Nancy Guthrie, the mother eighty four year old mother 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:14.400 of NBC's Savannah Guthrie. And people I know that work 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:17.599 for NBC who have an after an interactor, they said, 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:19.920 she is the real deal, Like Savannah Guthrie is one 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:24.240 of the nicest persons, the nicest people in broadcasting. And 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:26.800 of course even if you're not, do you deserve your 1:10:26.840 --> 1:10:28.960 eighty four year old mother to suddenly become missing. I mean, 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:32.120 here's Savannah Guthrie is supposedly going to go to Italy 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:34.000 for the Olympics, and now she's not going to be 1:10:34.000 --> 1:10:36.680 able to do that because her priorities as such as 1:10:36.680 --> 1:10:38.320 her mom is missing and she's got to be there 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:41.280 for her. So she's in Arizona. The very latest on this, 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:45.320 we do know that her Nancy Guthrie's DNA or blood 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:48.080 was found at the scene, namely in the front near 1:10:48.120 --> 1:10:51.080 the front door. Police do heavy what they think is 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:53.000 a ransom note, but they're not sure it's real. I 1:10:53.040 --> 1:10:56.959 don't know what that means in evidence, of course, indicating 1:10:57.000 --> 1:10:59.559 she was removed against her will, and it's not dementia related. 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:02.400 Why said she just simply physically has not been able 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:05.559 to walk like fifty yards. But she's sharp as attack mentally, 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:09.320 which we all hope to be at her age. And 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:12.320 of course the narrative about kidnapping comes first and foremost, 1:11:12.360 --> 1:11:15.840 because that's what it feels and smells like. But it 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:20.360 is getting increasingly more common, and I shouldn't say common, 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:23.400 that's an exaggeration. But there was a time in America 1:11:23.439 --> 1:11:26.240 where ransom kidnappings happened all the time. If you go 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:29.800 back to like the nineteen twenties and thirties, it was 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:34.040 big back then. And in nineteen thirty two, Charles Lindbergh's 1:11:34.120 --> 1:11:36.840 baby was kidnapped. I'm sure you know that story. He 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:39.479 is twenty months old and was taken later found dead, 1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:45.200 and Bruno Hopman, of course, was the individual controversially executed 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:48.120 for his abduction and murder, and there's some controversy surrounding 1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:50.679 that they got the wrong guy. But nonetheless, what happened 1:11:50.680 --> 1:11:52.439 in thirty two. Up till thirty two, it happened all 1:11:52.479 --> 1:11:56.640 the time. People in Cincinnati were getting kidnapped, and not 1:11:56.680 --> 1:11:58.320 for as much money as you would think, just because 1:11:58.320 --> 1:11:59.840 they would do it. And so what happened in thirty two, 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:03.800 because it gripped the nation, the Feds got involved and 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:06.000 they made kidnapping a federal crime, meaning it was in 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:10.240 the pervian jurisdiction of the emerging FBI and now you 1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:12.920 have federal resources behind you. And the penalties were increased 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:15.919 during that with that law to include the death penalty 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:19.640 for kidnappings resulting in death, and it created somewhat of 1:12:19.680 --> 1:12:23.479 an effective deterrent through aggressive prosecution, and that ended pretty 1:12:23.560 --> 1:12:27.760 quickly after nineteen thirty two. Today we're starting to see 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:32.440 a little bit of resurgence, and that is because technology 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:35.439 and you know kid well, you think about what's preventing 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.759 them too, is you know technology, they had the kids, 1:12:38.200 --> 1:12:42.479 digital tracking, amber alerts, we have a massive surveillance infrastructure. Hell, 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:45.120 we're talking about putting more cameras up and all these 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:46.599 going to be on the show to our console person 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:49.880 who wants more cameras up maybe in relation to or 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:54.479 indifference of the curfew center that's costs like three hundred 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:55.960 and eighty thousand dollars. She's going to come on the 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:57.680 show tomorrow to talk about that. But again, we have 1:12:57.720 --> 1:13:01.640 more license plate readers and sell town to sell tower triangulation. 1:13:01.920 --> 1:13:04.719 You have GPS, you've got ring door bells, everybody's cameras 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:07.080 are always on. It's harder for criminals to do what 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:10.360 they do, plus the digital trails and forensics and things 1:13:10.439 --> 1:13:15.000 like that, and it's become unprofitable because there's a really 1:13:15.240 --> 1:13:17.200 high likelhood because of that, you're going to get caught 1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:19.519 and you're facing a life sentence or death penalty and 1:13:19.560 --> 1:13:22.920 the fencer behind this, and so we're starting to see 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:24.920 it maybe a little bit of a resurgence in this. 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:27.240 So recently there's an alarming new trend, at least for 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:30.080 the first half of the last starting last year, we're 1:13:30.120 --> 1:13:33.559 starting to see a spike and domestic kidnapping for ransom cases. 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:37.040 They think the economy is largely behind this, but the 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:41.120 technology that eventually catches up the law enforcement uses catches 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:42.800 up for the bad guys as well. And so the 1:13:42.840 --> 1:13:46.599 digital landscape makes it easier for criminals demand payment through 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:49.800 untraceable means. We're talking cryptocurrency and anonymous banking apps, and 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:51.599 so now they look at it go, well, it's hard. 1:13:51.600 --> 1:13:53.439 You know, they can't trace the you know, the serial 1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:56.360 numbers of the bills anymore like they used to. It's 1:13:56.360 --> 1:13:58.720 all crypto. And so now that gives them going, well, 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:00.799 if we can hold somebody for random some using crypto, 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:03.320 that could be a game changer for us, and there 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:05.840 are individuals trying that. I don't know if that's the 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:09.720 case with Nancy Guthrie, but the speculation that that is 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:12.920 the case. Who knows at this point, and so you 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:14.840 could see the pendulum start to swing the other way. 1:14:14.840 --> 1:14:16.439 I don't think it will, simply because there's just so 1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:19.200 much attention and the FBAT told but we just simply 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:21.439 don't negotiate. We don't give brands some money like we 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:25.639 used to. And that is the Canada with Patty Hurst, 1:14:25.640 --> 1:14:27.280 for example, and that you know, it doesn't work out 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:30.519 well usually, as the case may be. I think what's interesting. 1:14:30.520 --> 1:14:32.200 I talked to someone in law enforcement about this, not 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.240 on one with any direct knowledge of the case, and 1:14:34.280 --> 1:14:36.479 we chewed the fat for good twenty minutes about this, 1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:39.479 and I thought it was really really interesting about what 1:14:40.240 --> 1:14:45.479 this individual thinks is going on that by now, at 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:48.360 least in the first forty eight hours, you know, you 1:14:48.360 --> 1:14:50.439 could be hundreds and hundreds of miles away for sure. 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:52.960 So this is why you've got the border patrol involved, 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:55.360 because this is an Arizona and the border's a pretty 1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:59.520 close and so border patrol good. They have active air surveillance, 1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:02.400 but they're also going to do some financial deep digging here. 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:05.200 So Savannah Guthrie makes like eight million dollars a year, 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:08.799 she's worth tens of millions of dollars, And so instantly 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:13.679 you think of an abduction for ransom. In most cases, 1:15:13.720 --> 1:15:16.360 in the fewer, maybe the growing number of ransom cases 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.760 we have, generally it involved, believe or not, children that 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:22.000 are being held for ransom. Now in this case, as 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:24.840 an elderly woman who needs your medication, and so the 1:15:24.880 --> 1:15:28.720 thought is, well, this person may be an individual who 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:31.040 is close to her in the sense of knowing because 1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:32.640 they knew the house, they knew what time she was 1:15:32.680 --> 1:15:34.559 going to be home, she knew all these things about her. 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:37.439 They did break in obviously, and then the as you 1:15:37.479 --> 1:15:40.000 mention the ransom note, if it is indeed a ransom note, 1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:41.840 I don the police kind of describe that awkwardly. I'm 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:43.680 not quite sure what it means. I think they're not 1:15:43.800 --> 1:15:46.280 convinced it is indeed a ransom, And maybe a decoy 1:15:47.080 --> 1:15:49.439 is that if that individual has knowledge, because you know, 1:15:49.479 --> 1:15:51.400 you're up against the clock with her medicine. She only 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:53.320 has a limit amount of time she needs medicine to 1:15:53.360 --> 1:15:56.760 keep her alive. The speculation is or they say, well, 1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:58.799 look at is does this person, because they have intimate 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:01.760 knowledge of Nancy Guthrie, do they have the medicine she 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:04.240 would need to survive. They left the medicine behind thinking 1:16:04.280 --> 1:16:06.280 she doesn't have access to it, and that puts more 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:09.320 of a time constraint on meeting the person who is 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:13.000 holding yours demands, if that's indeed the case here. And 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:15.000 I thought that's interesting is if they knew then they 1:16:15.040 --> 1:16:17.000 got her the medicine she needs, knowing what she's on, 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:19.200 they would leave the bottle behind and that would make 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:21.040 her think she doesn't have it when she actually does. 1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:25.040 Which is a lot to think about if you're like 1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:28.160 me or you. But now this is an investigators do 1:16:28.240 --> 1:16:32.519 all the time. Obviously, they have to locate the vehicle, shoes, 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:35.559 transport in her car, her cell phone, her wallet, all 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:37.799 of that stuff was left back, keys, everything left behind. 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:41.479 She has mobility issues. She's sharp as attack mentally, but 1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:43.479 mobility is a problem for her because she's eighty four 1:16:43.560 --> 1:16:46.559 years old. So finding the you know, iiding the car. 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:48.639 We see that now with plate readers and everything else, 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:52.600 and how they're rather quickly able to piece together the 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:54.800 vehicle and get a tag and a hit on a tag. 1:16:54.840 --> 1:16:57.400 And it happens all the time that someone's out walking 1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:00.400 and they wind up, you know, spotting them getting vehicle 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:01.960 and they want up now on them. The guy who's 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:04.960 you know, the we just had a case of that 1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:06.400 as a matter of fact, and it was all done 1:17:06.439 --> 1:17:11.000 by you know, cameras on poles somewhere. And I think, 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:12.679 you know, looking at this and talking to the individual 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:15.000 I spoke to, I think it's interesting that, you know 1:17:15.040 --> 1:17:17.599 the timeline of this investigation. Someone almost had to know 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:21.240 she was home alone, uh, and so who had access 1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:23.040 to her schedule? And you know, they're going to be 1:17:23.080 --> 1:17:25.080 looking at people in her church. They're going to be 1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:27.720 looking at relative speculation there maybe a relative involved in this, 1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:31.639 who who did service calls to her house or visitors deliveries, 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:35.120 all that stuff, and establishing whether or not that ransom 1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:38.639 communication is is that if it's a ransom note indeed, 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:40.240 or it's a decoy, or maybe it's not even a 1:17:40.320 --> 1:17:43.360 ransom note at this point, so they're you know, hospitals 1:17:43.360 --> 1:17:45.160 all on the alert as well, and they're looking at 1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:47.439 cell phone data and all that stuff. The person I 1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:51.320 spoke to speculated now knowing what we know publicly had granted, 1:17:51.360 --> 1:17:55.599 the information that law enforcement has in Arizona is a 1:17:55.640 --> 1:17:57.640 lot more detailed than we have, because, as you know, 1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:00.160 they only release certain things to the public, so there's 1:18:00.160 --> 1:18:02.280 a lot more information they're sitting on. They aid in 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:06.960 their investigation, and knowing that, they said, well, there's higher likely, 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.000 the most high likelihood at this point. Know, what we 1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:13.280 know is that it's a targeted a targeted abduction by 1:18:13.280 --> 1:18:16.360 a known individual. Because of that, you know there's forced entry, 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:19.840 but limited forced entry. Knew her limitations and schedule and 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:22.000 all those things as well, and so they would look 1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:25.880 at that first. And that's also now. Secondarily they're looking 1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:29.000 at less likely a financial motive for this thing because 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.439 Savannah is high profile. She's had her mom on her show. 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:34.400 I guess those around that area and Tucson know that 1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:38.840 she is Savannah Guthrie's mom because she's semi famous, and 1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:40.360 so you see that and go, oh, she makes this 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:42.400 kind of money. I need money. If I'm going to 1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:45.160 hold someone ransom, it would be someone like this. Plus 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:47.160 your elderly can't really fight back. That's why it tends 1:18:47.200 --> 1:18:51.960 to be children and elderly folks, and so you know, 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:54.639 they also said, I think it's interesting too, that doesn't 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.479 strike them as like a professional criminal who researched the 1:18:57.520 --> 1:18:59.840 target that much because of some of the mistakes that 1:18:59.880 --> 1:19:01.880 they made. No normally if it's I get you know, 1:19:02.000 --> 1:19:06.120 like like the the individuals who burgled Joe Burrow's house. 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:08.400 I mean, hell, there was a cop out front, and 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:10.120 they got in, they got out, knew exactly where they're going, 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:11.960 what time of day, how to disabled everything, They did 1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:14.880 their research, they did their homework, still got caught. But 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:17.200 according to them, this does not look like it is 1:19:17.240 --> 1:19:20.640 someone who like some sort of gang or organized activity, 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:22.760 that they would be that good in getting this individual. 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:28.320 And of course then there's a personal vendetta against Savannah Guthrie. 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:29.880 In that. 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:33.280 You know, journalists who make enemies, You have political extremists, 1:19:33.640 --> 1:19:36.719 you have people maybe upset by her anger, her interviewing 1:19:36.760 --> 1:19:39.160 she did interview with Trump, for example, that she did 1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:42.400 interviewed Biden. Maybe someone took that the wrong way and 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:47.160 saw this as a personal vendetta against Savannah Guthrie. Although 1:19:47.560 --> 1:19:49.400 you know, you look at the nature of this whole thing, 1:19:49.439 --> 1:19:51.680 and why would you take someone, you know, if you're 1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:53.759 gonna if you're gonna do harmon trying to ruin someone's 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:56.519 life and make them hurt because you're so twisted you 1:19:56.560 --> 1:20:00.679 think that physical violence is the only way to save 1:20:00.720 --> 1:20:04.320 your reputation or get back at someone for reporting on something, 1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:06.960 which is absurd. But they're crazy people in the world, 1:20:08.200 --> 1:20:10.080 and if you look at it in that regard, and 1:20:10.120 --> 1:20:13.280 why why would you capture someone and take them as 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:17.240 suppose to just killing them? And fortunately it's an abduction 1:20:17.320 --> 1:20:23.320 because there's still hope that this lady's alive. And then ultimately, 1:20:23.360 --> 1:20:26.160 finally it's like a crime of opportunity that you know, 1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:29.240 someone observed her scene and going in maybe made that connection. 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:31.960 Could be local criminal activity, recent parolice and stuff like that. 1:20:32.040 --> 1:20:35.040 So the problem is there's so many, so many strategies 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:37.920 and theories out there. And the sheriff said, this isn't 1:20:37.920 --> 1:20:39.960 a ransom, but there was a ransom note what to 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:43.080 make of that, we don't know, but they get they 1:20:43.080 --> 1:20:46.240 would start with their social and church connections and someone 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:47.720 that knows because she went to dinner and then I 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:49.800 guess drop off and she was gone later that night. 1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:52.160 And again that's like a long period of time from 1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:54.680 the evening till the next morning or next afternoon I 1:20:54.720 --> 1:20:56.320 should say noon when she didn't show up to church 1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:58.479 when they figured, hey, something's going on here, and so 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:00.400 she's been gone for a long time. Could be anywhere 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.800 at this point. But it's such a fascinating story in 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:06.120 my opinion, because hey, you often don't see this. You know, 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:08.800 you see people being you know, children for example, being 1:21:08.800 --> 1:21:10.800 held against their world, people being abducted and held in 1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:13.280 a house somewhere as some sort of you know, weird 1:21:13.320 --> 1:21:17.960 sex slave or something like that. But abductions for ransom 1:21:18.040 --> 1:21:20.200 or in the appearance of ransom anywhere extremely rare in 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:23.639 this country. Used to be fairly common, but not anymore, 1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:26.200 although they are making a resurgence for the reasons I mentioned. 1:21:26.240 --> 1:21:28.600 But it certainly is a gripping and interesting story and 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:30.960 of a sad at the same time, because, like I said, 1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:35.360 the person who had interacted with Savannah Guthrie, she's a really, 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:38.120 really nice lady. And even if they weren't, you know, 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:40.080 you wouldn't wish to sign your worst enemy, because could 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.000 you imagine getting a call that your mother has been abducted? Wait, what, 1:21:43.439 --> 1:21:45.960 your mother's missing and we think she's been abducted, you 1:21:46.000 --> 1:21:49.360 better get out to Arizona. That had to be and 1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:51.599 still is one of the worst things you could possibly hear, 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.879 because at eighty four, she's pretty frail and needs her medicine. 1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:57.760 And we have no idea yet what the endgame is here, 1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:00.280 but the speculation is running rampant, which, of course, as 1:22:00.280 --> 1:22:01.640 we deal in here on the show and on this 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:04.800 radio station, it's simple speculation, but these are based in fact, 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:06.800 and you wonder what was going through the mind of 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:10.720 the individual or individuals that abducted her, and what is 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:13.040 this they seek to gain by holding captive an eighty 1:22:13.080 --> 1:22:17.000 four old woman. I mean, financial gain comes to mind instantly. 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:19.360 The second would be some sort of retribution because of 1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:22.240 what Savanah Guthrie does for her job. But the family, 1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:25.360 I guess, is heartbroken. So TMC is reporting a possible 1:22:25.439 --> 1:22:29.840 ransom note demanded millions of dollars in crypto at a 1:22:29.920 --> 1:22:32.760 verified bitcoin address. So this just broke just now as 1:22:32.760 --> 1:22:35.240 I was talking about this, and I was speculating that well, 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:39.240 cryptocurrency bitcoin, it's much easier to do this today before, 1:22:39.280 --> 1:22:41.640 But the FBI is very, very good at what they do, 1:22:42.760 --> 1:22:45.000 and they are there to help. According to Keshptel, the 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.599 FBI director, to help in this case. Now, if you're 1:22:47.600 --> 1:22:51.719 holding someone ransom and wanting crypto, that certainly does invoke 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:54.680 the FBI here, and they're pretty good despite what we 1:22:54.760 --> 1:22:57.960 believe in how you know what justice looks like. FBI 1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:00.720 still pretty good at getting this stuff. Hopefully I find 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:04.960 an answer here holding her hostage for some cryptocurrency. I 1:23:05.040 --> 1:23:07.400 just wonder how organized the group holding here is in 1:23:07.439 --> 1:23:10.720 that particular case. Anyway, So we got that going on 1:23:10.720 --> 1:23:12.479 today coming up in a few minutes. Here Sarah Lisa 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:14.440 is in and this is a snort report, I imagine 1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:16.439 because she is such a front runner we're going to 1:23:16.479 --> 1:23:18.880 talk about. We're going to talk about her all the 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:25.200 modern Miami University and they remain undefeated. I think next up. 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:27.240 I think they got Marshall next if I'm not mistaken, 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:29.719 and not how many games they got left in the schedule. 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:31.680 But it's awfully tough to go undefeated. So she's here 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.519 talking about that. I'm sure some Joe Burrow Pro Bowl 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:36.960 stuff in the mix as well. The Nicholas nickolasche was 1:23:36.960 --> 1:23:38.680 on My show yesterday at eleven oh seven at this 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:43.559 time and dropped his song about wanting to the Bengals 1:23:43.600 --> 1:23:46.800 to sell the team, presumably to him, and he denied it. 1:23:46.800 --> 1:23:48.479 But I like, I don't know. You've got friends, you 1:23:48.520 --> 1:23:50.840 got investors, you know if you're in la you know 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:52.800 sin you're famous like Nick Laay. You know people who 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.040 got money. You got some money. But you pull all 1:23:55.080 --> 1:23:57.280 together by the team. Is it for sale? That's a question. 1:23:57.360 --> 1:23:59.320 So we'll talk to Sarah about that coming up in 1:23:59.320 --> 1:24:01.920 a few minutes. And of course the news that ah 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:04.320 Suarez is back in a redg jersey is giving us 1:24:04.320 --> 1:24:06.280 some hope that one of our sports teams is going 1:24:06.320 --> 1:24:09.360 to be successful here and maybe that maybe fcfc's about 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:11.720 registered the season too, But our hopes hang on our 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:15.880 red legs and some degree FC coming up as they 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:17.839 kick off the season. By the way, pitchers and catchers 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:21.160 reporting just days away. Despite what the weather's like outside, 1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:23.679 the minute you hear Baseball Day Baseball on seven hundred 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:26.000 WLW from Arizona, it feels like summer. Let's say it 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:28.880 all on your mind, it all melts away, It all 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:31.559 melts away. Early on the show, if you missed it, 1:24:31.640 --> 1:24:35.040 I had a couple of interesting guests. I had Ohhi 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.280 representative Adam Bird on at ten o'clock, so you can 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:40.160 catch out on the podcast, follow the show via the 1:24:40.200 --> 1:24:42.559 iHeartRadio app and downloaded for free. Or if you're listening 1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:44.000 to show right now and you're going somewhere, you can 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:47.200 pop your earbuds in and take us with you. Regardless. Anyway, 1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:49.559 representative of Adam Bird out of Claremont County was on 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:54.240 and proposing an NIL band for high school athletes in Ohio. Now, 1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:57.200 the Athletic Association just ruled and said, hey, listen, you 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.080 know what, you can't fight city Hall. And you can't. 1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:02.639 It's awfully tough to go to war against the law 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:06.120 because the law is ruling in favor of individuals or 1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:07.920 at least one kid who's an always you recruit that 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:09.679 Hey listen, I want to make money off my namage 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:12.040 of lightness, and I'll take you to court to get that. 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:15.160 And so they acquiesced and said, okay, uncle, and now 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:17.120 the legislator's look in this going, well, you know what, 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:20.799 we think it could destroy high school athletics, the sanctity 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.920 of high school athletics, and it was present. Adam presented 1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:25.960 a great case. I thought in that his line of 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:28.439 thinking is this is about protecting the institution of education 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:33.000 of higher learning about amateur athletics and the like. And 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:34.800 I think that it sounds good, it feels good, it 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:36.840 feels right, But you know, at the end of the day, 1:25:37.640 --> 1:25:39.759 I guess I have a problem overall with the state 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:44.439 telling parents what to do with their kids. And I 1:25:44.439 --> 1:25:45.920 look at it going, well, if your kid is so 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:48.800 exceptional that he or she is going to be offered 1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:53.760 not only a scholarship and hopefully, most likely if things 1:25:53.800 --> 1:25:56.680 play out the way they are, some sort of pro contract, 1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.000 why can't I capitalize that on now? And the idea 1:26:00.120 --> 1:26:02.479 here that the state knows more than the parents do. 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:05.320 It's kind of a horn to me in that regard, 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:08.760 like you can't prove a lot of harm being done 1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:11.880 by a kid taking money. Yeah, well they got to 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:14.799 get an agent, and then they got tax guys, And well, 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:17.160 how many people who are adults right now go, well, 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:19.519 that's a good problem to half, that's rich people problems. 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:22.599 I got to get a tax account and an agent. Damn, 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:26.120 I hate my life, said no one effort. So I 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:28.320 don't know if the state is staying why the state 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:31.839 would be in the way of doing that to protect 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:33.479 the children. And I always loath of people when they 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:36.000 say it's about protecting the children. And I'd also contend 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:38.120 that there are schools in our listing area right now 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:39.880 that are doing the same thing under the radar and 1:26:39.920 --> 1:26:41.760 have been for a long time when it comes to 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:44.080 bringing kids in from out of district or out of state, 1:26:44.120 --> 1:26:46.920 even because they're so exceptional at the sport that they play. 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:48.680 And then of course taking you the boosters take care 1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:51.839 of the parents, and there's housing and maybe some stipends 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:54.439 and things like that. And directly, I say, if you're 1:26:54.439 --> 1:26:55.719 going to do that, then you've got to go after 1:26:55.760 --> 1:26:57.960 that as well, because you are just creating the block 1:26:58.000 --> 1:27:00.000 market that we seek to fix in the first place. 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:02.680 Scott's Loan Show with News and five here we got 1:27:02.680 --> 1:27:14.439 snow moving and yet again seven hundred w. 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:21.960 Yes smarted. 1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:28.000 Lots of sports today report. Thank you Sarah Lisa. You 1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:29.479 are from the kid Chrisha one of two seven e 1:27:29.560 --> 1:27:33.240 d and social media slash sports this midweek morning. How 1:27:33.280 --> 1:27:36.639 are you happy day? You are way extra today? What 1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:37.360 is going on? 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:39.839 I'm just really caffeinated and well rested. 1:27:39.880 --> 1:27:43.160 Holy cow, you are just coming. You're like eleven on 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:44.120 a scale of nine. 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:46.960 I know a lot of you old dudes around here 1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:49.840 are like on a scale of one to tend. 1:27:50.520 --> 1:27:52.120 Now that you're forty, you've joined. 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:56.920 The not yet not yet twenty nine plus tax. Okay, 1:27:57.360 --> 1:27:57.960 take it easy. 1:27:58.040 --> 1:28:01.040 It's a lot of tax. You are in California. 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:03.880 It's tax plus shipping and handling a few other things 1:28:03.880 --> 1:28:06.280 here and there, some tariff stuff going on. 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:09.960 But excited about our Red Hawks Mi Alma Mater. Baby. 1:28:10.000 --> 1:28:11.880 They moved to twenty three and no after a big 1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:12.720 win last night. 1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:13.880 Win last night. 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:16.640 It was a nail bier. They they they're going to. 1:28:16.640 --> 1:28:19.160 Have some nails and some luck to be perfect. 1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:20.479 And you know what, and that's okay. 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:21.599 No one runs the table. 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:24.559 If it means that you're going to be undefeated and 1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:26.280 a little bit of luck comes your way, than by 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:26.880 all means how. 1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:27.759 Many games left? 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:31.600 Ooh, a few, We've got a few. I don't have 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:33.280 the schedule put up in front of me, but I knew. 1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:36.479 I know that they are back this Saturday. They're gonna 1:28:36.479 --> 1:28:38.160 be back on the road. Then they'll be back at 1:28:38.200 --> 1:28:38.800 home after that. 1:28:38.840 --> 1:28:42.040 I don't know. You have to pull up the sketch. Yes, 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.760 it is seventy three to seventy one. 1:28:44.720 --> 1:28:47.000 Over Buffalo is the final. They are fired up, they 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:49.040 are super fired up there and. 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:52.080 They're losing their minds at Miami right now. Eight games. 1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:54.599 There are eight games, loft, that's a lot. 1:28:55.320 --> 1:28:57.080 They can do it, just keep winning and it's one 1:28:57.120 --> 1:29:00.240 game at a time. How do you eat an elephant. 1:29:01.280 --> 1:29:02.240 With a knife and fork? 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:03.200 One bite at a time? 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:05.200 Oh, one bite at a time? How do you eat 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:05.799 at that elephant? 1:29:08.080 --> 1:29:10.200 Anyways, they're at Marshal on Saturday if. 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:12.880 You can there. Yeah, Marshall on Saturday. Okay, got it? 1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:16.439 And they are fourteen and eight should be another nail better? 1:29:16.680 --> 1:29:19.519 Well, you're a way too yep. Huntington's a tough place 1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:21.240 to play football, especially. 1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:24.000 And I believe that the RedHawks are twenty eight No 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:24.879 at Milette. 1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:26.160 How cool is that? 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:27.760 That's pretty cool? Nice? All right? 1:29:27.880 --> 1:29:31.519 So I was there on Saturday and I felt very old. 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:33.559 Here's yeah, no kidding, right. 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:36.799 I hadn't been back to my college campus and quite 1:29:36.800 --> 1:29:39.240 some time. Went up to High Street and it was 1:29:39.240 --> 1:29:41.720 a bunch of kids running around like in onesies and 1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:44.120 drinking beer, and I was. 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:46.639 Like, I really feel old? 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:49.640 Do you feel how how many years after graduation you 1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:51.880 go back to your alma mater? And you feel like 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:52.280 a creep. 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:54.640 You go back for like alumni weekends. 1:29:54.240 --> 1:29:55.000 You feel like a creep. 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:56.760 You don't just go just to go. 1:29:56.800 --> 1:29:58.439 But yeah, I did feel a little creepy, even though 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:01.439 I was with people that are my age, and you know, 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:03.960 it was alumni basketball weekend and there were plenty of 1:30:03.960 --> 1:30:07.160 other adults there. But watching all these kids running around, 1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:08.639 I'm like, oh my god, they. 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:11.080 Look like, baby, you're the age you could have a kid. 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:13.320 I could have a kid there. This is true. I 1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:15.320 could have a college kid, now, do. 1:30:15.360 --> 1:30:17.360 I if you know who the mother was? 1:30:17.520 --> 1:30:20.840 Absolutely not no kids for me ever, no things. 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:22.200 Okay, we'll see no thank you. 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:25.639 But yeah, I was giving back and you know, hitting 1:30:25.680 --> 1:30:27.759 up skips and bricks situation. 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:29.559 When you go back, you can go back to my 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:31.599 alma mater. You go back to your alma mater. And 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:33.960 it's like you go back like the first year after 1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:36.760 like still snows some people, right, and that's fine, and 1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:39.000 that's fine. But by the second or third year you 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:42.000 go back and you go, man, I'm old. I mean, 1:30:42.320 --> 1:30:44.000 it happens quickly. 1:30:43.760 --> 1:30:46.639 It really does. And they don't look like they're eighty. 1:30:46.760 --> 1:30:49.639 I mean they looked like they were like thirteen, Like, man, 1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:51.200 these kids are looking younger than ever. 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:53.120 Well, we're getting older faster. 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:54.280 And I think that's what's going on. 1:30:54.520 --> 1:30:56.360 When I go there now, they hold doors open for. 1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:58.240 Me and stuff like their do you need a wheelchair? 1:30:58.360 --> 1:30:58.519 Are you? 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:00.639 Are you here for the are you of the clinic? 1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:06.080 You're there for? Like nurse students? 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:08.880 Did you go back like homecomings? Michelle and I met 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:09.960 at BG. You went to Bowling Green. 1:31:10.040 --> 1:31:12.040 Yeah, we played guys in the twentieth button and. 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:14.800 So you know, you go back there and you feel 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:17.439 that way. But it's funny when you go back when 1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:20.280 you went back, like or you're on campus, let's say, yeah, 1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:22.160 and they like a homecoming and you see like the 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:24.479 class from nineteen fifty coming in. Wow, those people are 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:27.800 really old. Oh huh, Now I'm that age. I'm like, 1:31:27.960 --> 1:31:29.040 damn okay, And. 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:30.000 Time really does fly. 1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:30.680 It's fun. 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:32.879 But it was really good to be back on campus 1:31:32.920 --> 1:31:34.400 and to be at the game. And I'd never seen 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.519 a crowd that big at Malette before, No one has. They' 1:31:36.520 --> 1:31:39.799 set a record of ten thousand and six forty Pretty 1:31:39.800 --> 1:31:42.360 cool stuff. I love what's happening in Oxford right now. 1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:45.479 If if the RedHawks lose what bandwagon you can jump 1:31:45.479 --> 1:31:45.760 on this. 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:48.760 This is not a bandwagon when it's literally my college. 1:31:49.360 --> 1:31:53.240 I never talked about him before they go undefeated. That's 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:53.840 front running. 1:31:53.920 --> 1:31:56.400 They had never been waiting like this before. 1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:59.839 There's a reason why we're leading with the Reds, the Bangles, 1:31:59.840 --> 1:32:00.759 and I know what you're. 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:02.639 Gonna do if if and I'm not saying they are, 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:03.840 but if Miami. 1:32:03.479 --> 1:32:06.280 Loses, which I'm sure that they will offenually. 1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:07.000 We're going right to the Reds. 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:08.479 I guarantee well, we are going to go right to 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:12.200 the rest right now because good vibes, baby es. He's 1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:15.759 so back, and this is exactly what this team needed. 1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:18.200 He was the answer to all of our prayers. Now, granted, 1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:21.680 is he gonna how many runs is he gonna get? 1:32:21.680 --> 1:32:22.040 I don't know. 1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:24.960 He got forty nine bombs last season. You come to 1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.000 great hot hitter, I don't know. 1:32:27.120 --> 1:32:29.519 I don't know, because you get great hitters at GBP 1:32:29.680 --> 1:32:33.000 unless they're wearing the opposite uniform. Similarly, don't do well. 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:34.320 I don't know why that is. And it's been that 1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:35.559 way since Junior came here. 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:38.160 I just here's my thing with Gino, Like I love 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:41.200 his good vibes, and you know, I hope that he 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:43.760 can bring all the bomb stats to GBP, Like that's 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:46.160 really cool. But I wouldn't expect this guy to go 1:32:46.439 --> 1:32:47.840 like four or four every time a book. 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:50.240 But you got the guys line can hit too, and 1:32:50.280 --> 1:32:52.320 maybe that takes the pressure off of Ellie and other guys. 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:55.080 I think, Yeah, he is a perfect fit for this team. 1:32:55.200 --> 1:32:58.040 And he said, you know, it's good to be back here. 1:32:58.080 --> 1:32:59.880 This is where my wife and I had our baby 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:02.640 and got our family started. It feels like home. And 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:06.120 Nick Krawl last night said, great clubhouse guy. Great guy 1:33:06.120 --> 1:33:07.040 with the vet. 1:33:07.080 --> 1:33:08.439 Element is very underrated too. 1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:09.400 Yeah, he's a vet. 1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:11.880 Now you come in and he's coming in at thirty 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:14.000 four years old, and I think he's probably one of 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:14.800 the older guys on. 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:16.680 The team, working with ke Brian Hayes a little bit 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:18.640 at the base and you know, spread it around and 1:33:18.680 --> 1:33:20.600 be that guy, be the guy. And he doesn't have 1:33:20.640 --> 1:33:23.679 You're right, he doesn't have to rake. You know, whole season. 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:25.200 It's like somebody's got to. 1:33:25.240 --> 1:33:27.680 Hit someone, and I do think it will be I 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:28.120 am so. 1:33:28.160 --> 1:33:32.000 And in credit to the Castellini's for going. Hey, listen, 1:33:32.080 --> 1:33:33.719 you know what, the fans are not happy. We didn't 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:36.000 sign Schwarbur anywhere else, and this is not the top 1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:37.840 let's face it. It's kind of like, you know, the 1:33:38.120 --> 1:33:42.000 best remaining hitter available. We waited until Yeah, and they 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:44.520 spent more money they planned, but they see an opportunity 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:45.680 here and you know what, you've got to give the 1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:46.439 Reds credit for that. 1:33:46.680 --> 1:33:47.320 Totally worth it. 1:33:47.360 --> 1:33:49.439 And yeah, definitely a lot of credit to the Ruds, 1:33:49.439 --> 1:33:51.680 like this was a great move by them. 1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:52.639 Absolutely. 1:33:52.680 --> 1:33:55.760 I pitching, you got the bullpen squared away, you've got depth, 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:58.680 you got the outfields, like be exciting, let's go. 1:33:58.840 --> 1:34:01.400 Yeah, and I do think that's wos. We'll get people 1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:02.439 in the seats that man. 1:34:02.880 --> 1:34:04.600 Winning will get people this winning. 1:34:04.360 --> 1:34:07.000 Does ever fact look in Oxford ten six four zero. 1:34:07.160 --> 1:34:09.200 I went, hey, listen to fans, but reach Nation wasn't 1:34:09.200 --> 1:34:10.840 happy about this. We're gonna spend more money than we 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:13.120 budgeted for because we think there's an opportunity here. And 1:34:13.160 --> 1:34:15.479 it was smart or smart with their money, but they 1:34:15.520 --> 1:34:17.200 listened to fans. I think a lot of that is 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:20.000 driven by the anks the fans had we had about 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:22.120 going in and so they listened unlike our football team. 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:24.439 Well yeah, because I mean, were you excited about any 1:34:24.479 --> 1:34:27.839 of our hitters this year, who were you most excited about? 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:30.680 Ellie we strike out, Spencer. 1:34:30.360 --> 1:34:32.439 Steer to be better than he was, and a couple 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:33.200 of the guys. 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:34.320 And Matt McLean can only get. 1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:37.040 Black and McLean is another one, right, I would hope 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:39.240 for should get to figure it out. Yeah, but maybe 1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:41.240 this also takes pressure. So that good news for the Reds. 1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:41.559 I like that. 1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:43.599 Yeah, so I know that the you know, the team, 1:34:43.600 --> 1:34:46.479 they're all excited about having their guide back, familiar face, 1:34:46.600 --> 1:34:49.599 and you know, the Red social team obviously very excited 1:34:49.600 --> 1:34:51.559 to be posting. I mean, they made twenty five posts 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:54.720 about him yesterday and of course Gina reunited with his 1:34:54.840 --> 1:34:56.680 bestie Jim Day. 1:34:57.880 --> 1:34:59.200 I don't know if you saw that, but. 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:00.559 It was cute, very cute. 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.720 Does Dave have the clip of that by chance? Their interaction? 1:35:03.840 --> 1:35:06.120 I would be impressed if Dave had that clip on hands. 1:35:06.960 --> 1:35:11.439 Not sure three two one he doesn't have in front 1:35:11.439 --> 1:35:15.040 of you ever. Mind what did what did gino saying. 1:35:14.840 --> 1:35:17.639 That he was like, oh Jim, good to see you again, 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.360 and they just you know, hugged it out and just 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:21.840 like old besties. 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.280 See you again. Okay, there you go. There's a clip 1:35:24.360 --> 1:35:26.320 that's Yeah, that's what it sounded like. 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:29.320 He was happy to see the snow. 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:31.479 He's got his wife and his too, his two kiddos 1:35:31.479 --> 1:35:33.400 with him, so I'm all very very excited. 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:41.360 He's really happy about this. Look at you, man, Wow, 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:45.000 it's nice. What do you think of the snow on 1:35:45.000 --> 1:35:45.800 the field? 1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:55.360 Like, yes, happy time. 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:56.360 That's cool. 1:35:56.479 --> 1:35:57.280 As happy as I am. 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.680 It's been a long time now. Jim Day has like 1:36:00.760 --> 1:36:01.839 a really good interviewer. 1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:05.240 Gino's reaction was like, Jim Day, you're still alive. 1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:07.320 You have a job here. 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:13.920 How the hell are you still employed? You're terrible. I 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:17.000 love Jim he is the best suck you used to 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:24.040 work here. Oh my god, you said it, not me. No, 1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:26.320 I love Jim Dave. If I didn't know Jim Day, 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:28.679 I wouldn't be breaking as chopped like that. That's funny. 1:36:28.920 --> 1:36:37.400 So anyway, that reaction and he in the clubhouse. 1:36:39.000 --> 1:36:41.160 I think I can't. 1:36:41.439 --> 1:36:43.760 You're right, I gotta laugh. I didn't even get a 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:45.360 snort out of that. I need a snort. 1:36:45.439 --> 1:36:53.240 Come on, woman, I think, Gino, he will get seg 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:55.679 out of this place and back to the club house, 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:56.639 I really do. 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.599 But he's back, so I go Tuesday. Thank you. 1:37:04.600 --> 1:37:06.120 She really brings them all up. 1:37:06.280 --> 1:37:09.160 I love it. I love it. I bet I hope 1:37:09.240 --> 1:37:10.800 Jim does like one of the you know, the the 1:37:11.040 --> 1:37:13.599 ones that they used to fill the rain delays with. 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:15.200 Oh you know that's coming. 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:19.639 I mean he's so good. I love that. I love 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:21.800 that because it's you know, look forward to with rain delay. 1:37:21.880 --> 1:37:23.200 But you know there's gonna be content there. 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:26.200 That's when you turn on l W and you those guys. 1:37:25.960 --> 1:37:33.240 Because he knows the backstories. No, no, I think he's 1:37:33.280 --> 1:37:38.280 still here. Do you think Jim Day is terrible? I've 1:37:38.320 --> 1:37:38.960 always enjoyed. 1:37:39.600 --> 1:37:45.080 Does all you bud so Wow Pitchers and Gadgets report 1:37:45.160 --> 1:37:47.320 next week to Goodyear and they've got their first game 1:37:47.360 --> 1:37:51.960 against the Guardians on the twenty first, and it was 1:37:52.000 --> 1:37:54.320 truck Day yesterday on their social page as well, So 1:37:54.320 --> 1:37:56.439 they got the truck all piled up with the gear 1:37:56.479 --> 1:37:58.320 and mister red Legs is driving the whole thing. 1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:00.360 If you see him on seven, when. 1:38:00.280 --> 1:38:03.840 Does the head come off? And the media op he's 1:38:03.920 --> 1:38:06.400 driving it? You're driving a big rig with a Oh my. 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:08.519 God, do I have time for a quick head story? 1:38:09.240 --> 1:38:10.320 What thank you? 1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:13.160 When I was in Bristol. 1:38:13.800 --> 1:38:15.639 That's not what I think you're going okay, well maybe 1:38:15.640 --> 1:38:16.519 it's going somewhere right. 1:38:16.640 --> 1:38:19.360 Well, you know, when I was in Bristol, let's go. 1:38:19.439 --> 1:38:21.719 I've got a good head story. I was in Bristol 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.519 last year and of course, you know, the rain was 1:38:23.560 --> 1:38:26.559 the name of the game, and I'm in this room, 1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:28.960 like the media room, and we're just you know, on lockdown, 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:32.080 and somehow the mascots were locked in with us, you know, 1:38:32.120 --> 1:38:33.720 like they can't go out and get the head, you know, 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:36.320 wet and the outfit and everything. So like they're still 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:38.800 in there as mascots and when they're in public, even 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:40.719 with just the media, they have. 1:38:40.680 --> 1:38:41.520 To be performing. 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:45.280 Yeah, So like mister Red Legs and Rosie and Gaper 1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:47.120 and everybody, Like they're just sitting there with all these 1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:50.160 like very you know, serious media people and they're just 1:38:50.200 --> 1:38:53.719 you know, waving and kind of playing batty cake and whatnot. 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:55.800 I'm like, dude, you can take off the head like 1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:58.120 it's really okay, like we will not judge. 1:38:58.280 --> 1:39:02.160 But no, they stayed in character. It's party. Yes, it's 1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:03.519 exactly like Mickey and Disney. 1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:05.320 You cannot take it off because you're scared of kids. 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:06.559 That is my head story. 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:08.320 I don't know what their heads in real life look 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:10.320 like but they are baseballs in my world. 1:39:10.360 --> 1:39:12.439 You should see standing next to Gapper, like in the 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:14.040 restroom and he has to keep the head on. 1:39:15.160 --> 1:39:16.240 They look over to each other. 1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:17.800 Yeah, well, I mean it's you can't see your but 1:39:17.880 --> 1:39:19.599 he's bumping his head is like he's going he's flying 1:39:19.600 --> 1:39:22.040 blind against a journal because the face is pushing up 1:39:22.040 --> 1:39:25.240 against the wall. Just don't let the bats your equipment, 1:39:25.960 --> 1:39:27.680 all right, So at least it's the smart report this 1:39:27.720 --> 1:39:30.600 morning on seven hundred W. But she's just trashing for 1:39:30.640 --> 1:39:31.040 some reason. 1:39:31.400 --> 1:39:34.760 That is all you. But Joe Burrow real quick, if 1:39:34.760 --> 1:39:38.880 he's happy in Cincinnati, dun't dunt dun stop. 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:39.599 Now. 1:39:39.640 --> 1:39:41.599 We had Robin Burrow on not long ago to talk 1:39:41.640 --> 1:39:45.559 about the Marty Girl. 1:39:44.280 --> 1:39:46.040 And he's happy. 1:39:46.040 --> 1:39:48.160 He's playing with those guys t Higgins and Jamar Chase 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:50.200 of course last night playing with them in the Pro Bowl. 1:39:50.680 --> 1:39:52.679 But yeah, Joe was asked if he's happy, and he goes, yeah, 1:39:52.760 --> 1:39:53.640 I am. 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:57.720 I think you know everybody has bad days, right right, 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:02.479 he said sometimes they fall on press conference days, which 1:40:02.520 --> 1:40:04.040 we've definitely seen some. 1:40:04.040 --> 1:40:06.679 Bad days for Joe Burrow dealing with the press. 1:40:06.720 --> 1:40:07.800 He wants to win and he goes. 1:40:07.840 --> 1:40:10.920 So that's how it goes sometimes. All right, it was fine. 1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:12.719 I don't think we need to look into this any further. 1:40:12.760 --> 1:40:14.479 I don't think anyone should be worried about Joe Burrow 1:40:14.560 --> 1:40:15.680 leaving Cincinnati time. 1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:17.639 He knows who he plays for and what their commitment 1:40:17.680 --> 1:40:19.360 is or isn't at this point, as we all do. 1:40:20.240 --> 1:40:22.479 And what about our guy Nicholas Chef him? 1:40:22.520 --> 1:40:25.479 Like the Pro Bowl? It talk about burying the Tuesday 1:40:25.560 --> 1:40:26.120 night Pro Bowls? 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:28.320 Why are we burying the lead? Who cares about the 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:32.320 Pro Bowl? When Miami is undefeated and we have Gino back, it's. 1:40:32.360 --> 1:40:33.320 Way more important. 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:36.479 You brought up Joe Burrow and he played last night 1:40:36.520 --> 1:40:37.080 in the Pro Bowl. 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:37.320 Yeah. 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.200 I watched the intros. Then I saw Tee Higgins get 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:41.759 a touchdown. Then I go to bed. The thing stopped. 1:40:41.800 --> 1:40:43.200 This thing started at like nine o'clock a night. 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:45.200 I though, I need to share how little this after 1:40:45.240 --> 1:40:46.760 that it was, it looked like there was heldon's all, 1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:50.040 like somebody's practice bubble in San Francisco. There's ten thousand, 1:40:50.120 --> 1:40:52.000 not even there's like five thousand people. 1:40:51.800 --> 1:40:52.559 There, maybe five. 1:40:53.280 --> 1:40:55.559 Yeah, it was really realining, but I get it. It's 1:40:55.560 --> 1:40:58.040 like they realized the Pro Bowl is not like it 1:40:58.080 --> 1:41:01.400 can't you can't do it in the NFL. I turned 1:41:01.439 --> 1:41:03.160 in the flag football is a good ad for their 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:04.000 flag football thing. 1:41:04.120 --> 1:41:06.640 So this score was like fifty to forty. I mean 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:09.320 it was wild truly. It's yeah, guys, not ticket it. Seriously, 1:41:09.360 --> 1:41:09.720 It's like, no. 1:41:10.040 --> 1:41:11.160 Should you You shouldn't. 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:12.760 Yeah, you don't want to get hurt because you know, 1:41:12.800 --> 1:41:15.200 that's that's what we always worry about, especially seeing Joe 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:18.280 Flacco and Joe Burrow out there, like keep the QBS. 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:20.320 You have one more thing, the Nicolas thing. 1:41:20.640 --> 1:41:22.599 Yeah, I heard your guy Nicholas on yesterday. 1:41:24.240 --> 1:41:25.879 Not Happy. He's got that song out. 1:41:25.880 --> 1:41:29.439 Fuel to fire Field. That song is way too it's 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:29.760 way too. 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:32.200 I said, it's more like baby naked music than it is. 1:41:32.160 --> 1:41:34.040 A Yeah, he's got to like ramp it up, all right. 1:41:34.400 --> 1:41:35.960 If we want to make this like a one. 1:41:35.840 --> 1:41:38.080 Yeah, it shouldn't be like a r and it sounds 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:40.280 if it sounds, you know, the musical ability is great, 1:41:40.320 --> 1:41:42.000 but it's like, man, it needs to be more like scream. 1:41:42.080 --> 1:41:47.040 Oh but he's he's not. Yeah, he needs like a 1:41:47.080 --> 1:41:50.200 slip Knot influence on this song. 1:41:51.000 --> 1:41:51.200 Head. 1:41:52.720 --> 1:41:55.559 Yeah, maybe I don't hearing screamo though I. 1:41:55.560 --> 1:41:58.439 Don't think he has it really good to hear from Nikolache, 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:01.000 even though we shouldn't care about what he has to say. 1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:04.320 I feel like he made really good, valid points and 1:42:04.360 --> 1:42:06.320 he goes, look, I know that the Bengals will probably 1:42:06.320 --> 1:42:08.400 never hear this, and I don't think they'll care if 1:42:08.400 --> 1:42:10.559 they do hear about it, and he's like, but they 1:42:10.560 --> 1:42:14.519 don't care about Cincinnati. That's pretty much everything that wraps 1:42:14.600 --> 1:42:16.280 up with what he had to say, But we do. 1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:19.719 Sarah especially cares about Cincinnati so much. She is leaning 1:42:19.720 --> 1:42:22.400 into the Miami RedHawks and Oxford Scott Sloan show. She's 1:42:22.400 --> 1:42:24.080 back on the Kid Christio tomorrow on one of two 1:42:24.120 --> 1:42:27.599 seven EBN where she attacks where she attacks Jim Day 1:42:27.600 --> 1:42:30.000 and probably other Reds broadcasters on that daily basis, Oh 1:42:30.080 --> 1:42:32.559 you Willie is on the way next seven hundred ww