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Speaker 1: can guarantee it. Gary Jeff Walker tonight in for Mike

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Speaker 1: to be on with me tonight. Our first guest this

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Speaker 1: evening is host of the Chris Salsado Show on Newsmax

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Speaker 1: TV and on the radio in Texas and author of

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Speaker 1: the Rise of the Liberty Loving Latino, a New American Revolution.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he could take some time out

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Speaker 1: wellcome to the show. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess I should be very appreciative

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Speaker 4: And all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And this is I'm show prepping for my program tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Was doing, Sore, You go, oh, we're on the phone

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Speaker 1: Publia's Publishing, who are helping you promote the rise of

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Speaker 1: And there was so much to talk about. Chris. I

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think the Democrats aren't interested in governing because

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important to remind people what Democrats

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Speaker 1: There you go, This is what you get when democrats

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Speaker 3: Do you remember all the damage the Democrats did the

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Speaker 3: And we talk about this at great length. What led

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Speaker 3: And raised in southern California, back before it was the

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Speaker 3: I've got I've got this, uh uh, this project I did.

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Speaker 3: The leftists say that he's a civil rights leader.

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Speaker 2: That's a lie.

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Speaker 3: He was a he was a union leader, and he

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Speaker 4: But he was he was.

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Speaker 3: I remember my dad looking down picture and looking over

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Speaker 3: And the legacy of all leftists, isn't it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: One hundred million people or more killed in the last

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Speaker 2: You know, it's plague.

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Speaker 1: It pales, I mean, Hitler pales in comparison by himself, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of the subtitle of your book is a New American Revolution.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the good news because in the New Revolution

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Speaker 3: what I mentioned about this historic by millions, millions of

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Speaker 2: Is only a generation away from being lost.

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Speaker 3: It must be defended again again and then again. And

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Speaker 1: You'll watch the buzzwords too, because the new talking point

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Speaker 3: Almost you know that. And that's that's what he leaves

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Speaker 4: All the fake news.

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Speaker 1: The book The Rise of the Liberty Loving Latino the

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Speaker 3: Pleasure all mine. Thanks for the imitation.

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Speaker 1: in Ohio in Columbus, but all across the nation. California

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Speaker 1: is said to be in the hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 1: that fraud. Surprise, surprise, Illinois. Anyone, How much, how widespread

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Speaker 1: do you think it is? That's the question tonight. I

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Speaker 1: think it would blow our minds how much of our

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Speaker 1: money has gone to criminals who are gaming the system.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee it's more than you know. Six forty seven

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Speaker 1: seven utter w Elder to be perfectly honest and affair.

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Speaker 1: In the Epoch Times story I was referencing before the break,

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Speaker 1: State Senator George Lang said that although there is no

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Speaker 1: indication of systemic fraud in Ohio thus far, officials are

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Speaker 1: still investigating. He said there's a clear difference between Ohio

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Speaker 1: system and the shocking disconnect with disregard in Minnesota. Ohio

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Speaker 1: does use an electronic system to verify that children are

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Speaker 1: actually attending a daycare before payments are rendered, and check

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Speaker 1: ins include a personal identification number from parents. Minnesota requires

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Speaker 1: daily attendance records, but they haven't clamped down enough on

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Speaker 1: providers who failed to comply, according to a federal audit

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Speaker 1: last May. In addition, Minnesota state lawmakers have said that

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Speaker 1: whistleblowers have been punished for voicing concerns about Somali's committing

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Speaker 1: fraud and have been accused of racism or Islamophobia because

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Speaker 1: Somalis are black Muslims. Epoch Times was unable to find

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Speaker 1: reports of similar retaliation in Ohio large Somali population in Columbus, though,

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Speaker 1: just like a large Haitian population in Springfield, where it's

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Speaker 1: been alleged some of the members of that community have

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Speaker 1: been members of peta people eating tasty animals from your backyard, Jim,

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Speaker 1: and Amelia is here the way they're using his tax dollars, Jim,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Yes, Pice protecting my call, sir.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for calling Jim.

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Speaker 8: One thing is like, like, can I use my tax

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Speaker 8: dollars to go like the bill and new battleship or something?

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Speaker 8: Why does it have to go someplace where I don't

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Speaker 8: know where it's going? You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you know that in spite of the effort

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the current administration and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who voted for President Trump. In spite of that,

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Speaker 1: in the effort to overturn Roe versus Wade, our current

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Speaker 1: Health and Human Services department, led by RFK Junior, is

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Speaker 1: still funding Planned Parenthood with our tax dollars.

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Speaker 8: Well, why can't I use my tax.

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Speaker 1: Planned parenthood is the largest provider of abortions in this

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Speaker 1: country still to this day, through abortion pills or other means,

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Speaker 1: and I thought we were done with that.

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Speaker 8: Well, I just want to use my tax dollars to

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Speaker 8: go to defense and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, Well, a lot of your tax

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Speaker 1: dollars are Jim. I've often said, and for years I've

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Speaker 1: thought this, that you ought to have a line item

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Speaker 1: veto on your tax form when you fill it out,

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Speaker 1: so you can designate exactly where the dollars where your

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Speaker 1: dollars should be spent, Okay, and let everybody else do

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Speaker 1: their own thing. You know, you have a Oh, let's see,

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Speaker 1: I I want my tax dollars to go to transgender surgeries.

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Speaker 2: For that.

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Speaker 8: That'd be great, all right, all right?

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Speaker 1: For Iguanas in Peru, you know, my tax dollars should

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Speaker 1: go I don't know, to provide Sesame Street for children

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Speaker 1: in Iraq. My tax dollars should go to build battleships.

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Speaker 1: My tax dollars should be spent to enforce the law

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Speaker 1: and to get illegal criminals out of our country. I

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Speaker 1: would love to have that choice when we pay our taxes,

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Speaker 1: but we don't have have that choice. It all goes

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Speaker 1: into one big slush fund and the government, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be the government, but there's a deep

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Speaker 1: state that has been in charge of our money for

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Speaker 1: a long time. We basically have taxation without real representation again,

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Speaker 1: which sparked the First American Revolution, and maybe it's time

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Speaker 1: for that again. I don't know, but what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is you ought to have a choice when you pay

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Speaker 1: your taxes to say where that money goes. It only

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Speaker 1: seems logical to me.

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Speaker 8: It's perfect site for bringing that up.

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Speaker 9: Sir.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you for calling again, Jim, have a

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Speaker 1: lovely Yeah. I was. I was dismayed to find out that,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the overturning of Roe v. Wade and

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Speaker 1: abortion the issue going back to the States, there is

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Speaker 1: still federal money going to planned parenthood. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's in the courts or the reason why

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Speaker 1: it is, but I thought we were going to handle that.

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Speaker 1: I've been very proud of President Trump for all the

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Speaker 1: things he's accomplished in his first year in office, but

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Speaker 1: there are boxes that are still unchecked, and the sanctity

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Speaker 1: of life and the protection thereof and letting it be

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Speaker 1: truly a personal choice. That that box hasn't been checked yet.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that you should be able

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Speaker 1: to choose whether your tax money is going to kill

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Speaker 1: babies or not. I mean, how how can you morally

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Speaker 1: if you do not believe that babies should be killed

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Speaker 1: in the womb, you don't belie leave infanticide. How can

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Speaker 1: you justify your money going to an organization like Planned Parenthood,

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Speaker 1: for example? How can you sign that tax form and

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Speaker 1: send off your check or pay your taxes through your

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Speaker 1: payroll every day knowing that some of that money is

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Speaker 1: going in support of abortion. It just makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: The government pays for things all the time that many

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Speaker 1: of us find objectionable that to me is one of them,

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Speaker 1: the military and defense. The government has two charges in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution, and it's gone so far out of bounds

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Speaker 1: over the last you know, a couple hundred years since

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Speaker 1: our Constitution was consecrated, we've gone so far out of

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Speaker 1: bounds from the two major functions that the Constitution says.

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Speaker 1: Our government is in charge of a to provide for

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Speaker 1: the common defense, provide for the common defense and b

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Speaker 1: promote the general welfare. Doesn't say provide welfare, which is

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Speaker 1: what we do. It says promote the general welfare, which

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Speaker 1: means have a stabilized currency, keep the markets free and

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Speaker 1: open without government interference, make sure everything's fair, and provide

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Speaker 1: for the common defense. And it doesn't matter if we

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Speaker 1: have to defend ourselves against Iran or Antifa. That's the

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Speaker 1: government's job. Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare.

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Speaker 1: Anything else. Protecting the snail darter no, not actually the

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Speaker 1: government's responsibility, and it's not your or my responsibility to

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Speaker 1: do that. Seven o'clock. John Gordon will join us next

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Speaker 1: on this special Sunday Night edition, Gary Jeff and for

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen Junior on seven hundred WLW in to another

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Speaker 1: hour of an early nightcap. I Go Sunday Night, Gary

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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker in from Mike Allen Junior and just listening

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Speaker 1: to the story during the news about the man and

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Speaker 1: his son who were returned from Texas to Minnesota. They're

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Speaker 1: glad to be home Ecuadorian nationals who were here legally

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Speaker 1: while awaiting asylum. The problem with anyone here seeking asylum

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Speaker 1: is that the Biden administration led in how many millions

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Speaker 1: of people who not even said they were seeking asylum

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Speaker 1: but were led into the country without any kind of

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Speaker 1: vetting at all. And I think anytime you've got a

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Speaker 1: quota or you've got a large group of people who

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Speaker 1: are here illegally, especially criminal illegals who have committed crimes

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Speaker 1: once they've come into the country illegally, which of course,

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Speaker 1: coming into the country illegally is a crime in and

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Speaker 1: of itself. Once you've got so many, they were going

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Speaker 1: to be mistakes made. They're going to people who fall

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Speaker 1: through the cracks. But you know what, they weren't deported

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Speaker 1: to another country. They weren't sent back to Ecuador. They're

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Speaker 1: going back home to wait their asylum hearing, we need

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Speaker 1: a lot more immigration, Judge. I think I was just

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Speaker 1: mentioning before the break about the taxpayer dollars that are

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Speaker 1: still going to planned parenthood in the current HHS amendment,

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Speaker 1: to talk about the voting to fund abortions and trans procedures,

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Speaker 1: which is being supported not just by Democrats but by Republicans,

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Speaker 1: and some other issues. We have attorney, legal analyst and

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Speaker 1: host of The Truth with John Gordon. John Gordon joining

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Speaker 1: us in this half hour John, good evening. How are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing fantastic. I'm a little cold down here in

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Speaker 5: South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what one tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're really feeling a lot of sympathy for you

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Speaker 1: where it's been below zero for the last week here, John, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: my condolences, man. I mean I was looking at the

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Speaker 1: seven day forecast and when I saw the tomorrow it

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Speaker 1: might reach thirty degrees. You can't believe the happy dance

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Speaker 1: I was doing. I mean my wife, My wife and

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Speaker 1: I looked up at each other and went thirty degrees.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? This is like the holiday we're gonna

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Speaker 1: celebrate raindime frong, I'm going outside buck naked. Not really,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, it's this has just been a miserable snap.

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Speaker 1: It's the weather. You can't do anything about it. It

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Speaker 1: happens sometimes, and you know, it's on that sicular thing

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Speaker 1: like everything else with the climate, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the climate, the greeny axe, as I like to call them,

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Speaker 1: the climate terrorists often forget, or they conveniently forget, is

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Speaker 1: that the Earth goes through cycles. The climate always changes.

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Speaker 1: We've been colder before, we've been warmer before, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen again. It's just a matter of scientific fact,

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Speaker 1: you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Mean exactly, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: So a story about seventy six Republicans, I guess this

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Speaker 1: is going back to last week. This this trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: minibus that went through the House of Representatives on a

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Speaker 1: three hundred and forty one to eighty eight vote. Twenty

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Speaker 1: four Republicans and sixty four Democrats voted against it. The

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Speaker 1: Senate took it up. Is this part of what's there

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Speaker 1: The House is going to be voting on tomorrow with

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Speaker 1: the Senate package that was that was passed to keep

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Speaker 1: the government going.

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Speaker 5: Undoubtedly, And you know we've how long has it been

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Speaker 5: since the last shut down? And here we are coming

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Speaker 5: right down to the wire once again on budget approvals.

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Speaker 2: Why can't they get their act together?

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Speaker 5: It's like, you know, after you've seen this played out

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Speaker 5: now for literally decades, it's pretty clear that they don't want.

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Speaker 2: To get budget discipline in Washington. It's just more of

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, they want their goodies in their districts

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Speaker 1: and they will go along with almost anything to make

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Speaker 1: sure they get their pork. And it doesn't matter whether

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Speaker 1: there's an R or a D in front of their name.

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Speaker 1: But that shocked me that I thought the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the conservative party. I thought the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party was a party of common sense. I thought

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party was a party that believed in the

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Speaker 1: sanctity of life and didn't go for these fetishes and

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Speaker 1: ads like the whole trans thing that we've seen go

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Speaker 1: on full scale in this country for the last decade.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Republicans weren't for they them, they were

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Speaker 1: for you and me. What happened.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a flaw with our system, and I

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Speaker 5: give part of the blame to the American people that

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Speaker 5: don't show up and don't hold these people accountable. On

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Speaker 5: November the fourth, twenty twenty four, we had record turnout

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Speaker 5: and we were able to get President Trump reelected, and

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Speaker 5: we were able to take the Senate back and regain

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Speaker 5: the House. Now they're not honoring the promises that they

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Speaker 5: made to their constituents, and their district needs to turn

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Speaker 5: them out. Oure pure and simple, but we're reaching a

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Speaker 5: tipping point in this country. Thirty eight trillion dollars in debt,

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Speaker 5: a trillion dollars a year in interest payments alone, it's

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Speaker 5: not sustainable, and it's time for the adults to show up.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was, you know, talking once again about what's

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Speaker 1: projected to be as much as one and a half

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars just in fraud in Medicare, Medicaid, Somali daycares

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Speaker 1: at all. And you know what, when you're thirty eight

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars in debt, maybe we don't have a spending problem.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we've got a graph problem.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's unquestionably a big part of it. And Elion

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Speaker 5: omar Is came to Congress. I think she had a

652
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Speaker 5: negative net worth and now she's got twenty five million

653
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Speaker 5: dollars in net worth. How did that happen, head Stretcher, Well,

654
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Speaker 5: it happened by the daycare centers that were in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: You think that were grade over and boarded up up. Yeah,

656
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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 5: And you know, she also violated our immigration laws by

658
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Speaker 5: committing a fraud. She married her brother so that he

659
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Speaker 5: could come into the country. Why is she still I

660
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Speaker 5: was allowed to remain here.

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Speaker 1: So this is what I don't understand. Why isn't she

662
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Speaker 1: not been prosecuted for that? It's a it's common knowledge

663
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Speaker 1: that this happened.

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Speaker 9: She should be either.

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Speaker 1: Deported or in jail one or the other, or in

666
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Speaker 1: jail waiting for deportation. Just the just the fraud with

667
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Speaker 1: her brother marrying her brother. I mean that may happen

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Speaker 1: in Somalia or maybe or Alabama. Maybe maybe in the

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Speaker 1: deep cell.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I think.

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Speaker 5: You yeah, I think it's I think it's limited to

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Speaker 5: second cousins maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of friends in Alabama. I better watch it.

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Speaker 1: So this many of us that the House passed included

675
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Speaker 1: more than five billion dollars in welfare for refugees. Uh.

676
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Speaker 1: And again, I I'm just shocked that the current HHS

677
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Speaker 1: is still funding Planned Parenthood?

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Speaker 2: John? Is that?

679
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Speaker 1: Is that because of the courts or is it that

680
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Speaker 1: have that have stopped the efforts to defund Planned Parenthood

681
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Speaker 1: with federal tax dollars? Why is this going on? And

682
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Speaker 1: as far as funding transsurgery, my god, we lived through

683
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Speaker 1: this fetish fad. Transgenderism is a recognized mental illness called dysmorphia,

684
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Speaker 1: when people think they're in the wrong body and wanted.

685
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Speaker 1: It is a mental illness. Now, I am compassionate as

686
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Speaker 1: in anybody else for people who've got a mental health problem.

687
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Speaker 1: And I want them to get help, but I don't

688
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Speaker 1: want them in the case of parents mutilating they're fourteen

689
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Speaker 1: and fifteen or twelve year old boy or girl because

690
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Speaker 1: they say they want to be a part of this

691
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Speaker 1: fad of the day. You know, you thought tide pods

692
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Speaker 1: were a terrible fad for kids. The transgender thing is

693
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Speaker 1: unbelievably horrific, and people bought into it, and at at

694
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Speaker 1: best it was a fetish fad. At worst, it was

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Speaker 1: one of the great human tragedies of all time, and

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Speaker 1: it's still continuing. You agree or.

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Speaker 2: Disagree one hundred percent. I agree.

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Speaker 5: You know, adolescence can be a very difficult period in

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Speaker 5: all of our lives. I mean, that's when we start

700
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Speaker 5: trying to figure things out on our own, we start

701
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Speaker 5: becoming our own individual personality, and.

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Speaker 3: Middle school and high school can be tough.

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Speaker 5: And so a lot of these kids think that transitioning

704
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Speaker 5: is a way to achieve happiness. The fact of the

705
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Speaker 5: matter is is that the suicide rate among the young

706
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Speaker 5: people who have transitioned is way higher than the norm,

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Speaker 5: and later in life, the percentage of people who say

708
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Speaker 5: that they wish they had never done it is way

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Speaker 5: into the majority and so at some point parents have

710
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Speaker 5: to be parents. Adults have to be adults and say, look,

711
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: you're not old enough to make those decisions for yourself.

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Speaker 5: Wait until you're you achieve the age of majority, and

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Speaker 5: then at least then you can make a self determination.

714
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Speaker 5: But you know, automobile rental car companies don't rent to

715
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Speaker 5: people with their under twenty five years of age because

716
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Speaker 5: the brain is not done yet. There's a reason that

717
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Speaker 5: they won't take money from people that are under the

718
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Speaker 5: age of twenty five and want to rent a car.

719
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Speaker 5: And so apply the same logic on trans surgery. Let's

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Speaker 5: allow people time to mature and develop a fully functioning

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Speaker 5: brain before they make a life altering decision that they're

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Speaker 5: going to likely regret later in life.

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Speaker 1: Well, there is some justice in the wake of all

724
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Speaker 1: of this craziness. John A jury in White Plains, New York,

725
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Speaker 1: just last Friday found a psychologist and a surgeon liable

726
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Speaker 1: for malpractice after they support it and performed breast removal

727
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Speaker 1: surgery on a sixteen year old girl who at the

728
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Speaker 1: time identified as transgender. She's twenty two now no longer

729
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Speaker 1: identifying as transgender. There are some decisions that you're making

730
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Speaker 1: as you said, with a not fully formed brain that

731
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Speaker 1: are going to affect you adversely for the rest of

732
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Speaker 1: your life. She was awarded two million dollars in damages,

733
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Speaker 1: one point six million for past and future pain and suffering,

734
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Speaker 1: as well as another four hundred grand for future medical expenses.

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Speaker 1: The jury found that in many respects, the surgeon and

736
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Speaker 1: psychologists had skipped important steps when evaluating whether she should

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Speaker 1: go forward with the surgery, had not adequately communicated with

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Speaker 1: each other. All of this, to me is just so

739
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Speaker 1: outer space crazy. I can't believe that you and I

740
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Speaker 1: are talking about this right now and that it actually

741
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Speaker 1: has been happening in this country. Like you said, the

742
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Speaker 1: suicide rate for these kids who have gone through a

743
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Speaker 1: transition in air quotes is astronomically higher than those who

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Speaker 1: do not. And I think that if more juries and

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Speaker 1: more court decisions come down. Isn't it sad that it's

746
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: going to come down to money Whether this nonsense stops

747
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Speaker 1: or not, John, it should be ended now.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's really about accountability, and a doctor and a

749
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Speaker 5: shrink have no business influencing a young person on what

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Speaker 5: to do if they're having those thoughts. The only influence

751
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Speaker 5: that they need to exert is Look, you're still young.

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Speaker 2: Things change, you know you.

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Speaker 5: We all go in and out of happiness in our

754
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Speaker 5: lives depending on what is happening around us is part

755
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Speaker 5: of living. And transitioning from a male to a female

756
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Speaker 5: or vice versa is not going to solve the problems.

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Speaker 2: That an individual has.

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Speaker 5: And later in life, if they're mature, they've got the

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Speaker 5: intellectual capacity and they're going to make that choice for themselves.

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Speaker 2: I'm all about it.

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Speaker 5: It's not something that I would want for one of

762
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Speaker 5: my children, I can tell you that. But just let's

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Speaker 5: introduce the rule of common sense. Just a little common

764
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Speaker 5: sense will go a long ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and back to the original point, John, we were

766
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Speaker 1: talking about this this thing that was passed by the

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Speaker 1: House and seventy six Republicans voted for it, and it's

768
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Speaker 1: got this language in it that funds these trans surgeries

769
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Speaker 1: and funds abortion, and it just sounds like the Party

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Speaker 1: of common Sense doesn't have much And it's all due to,

771
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: as you said, this political wrangling of trying to get

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Speaker 1: your goodies. No matter what you say you believed in

773
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Speaker 1: when you ran for office in the first place. The

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Speaker 1: only person that I see can continuously doing the things

775
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Speaker 1: or trying to do the things he said he was

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Speaker 1: going to do as the president. I guess when you

777
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Speaker 1: get to the local level, when you get to the

778
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: local level in politics, you're just going to do whatever

779
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Speaker 1: you can to make sure you get enough goodies for

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00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: enough people you get elected again. And the public, like

781
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: you said, has to stand up. And if they have

782
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Speaker 1: convictions and they believe in something, and this person that

783
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Speaker 1: they elected isn't fulfilling their obligations and their campaiging promises,

784
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: they need to be they need to find somebody new.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you really have to wonder where the

786
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 5: influence is coming from. I don't know who influenced those

787
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 5: seventy some odd Republicans, nor the Democrats for that matter,

788
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Speaker 5: to make what I think is a nonsensical decision to

789
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Speaker 5: give taxpayer money for this purpose.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

791
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Speaker 2: But I, you know, follow the money.

792
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Speaker 5: I don't believe that it's the constituency demanding this. I

793
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: guarantee you there's some sort of special interest influence in

794
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 5: all of this stuff, which is exactly why I have

795
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: advocated for a long time that we return the power

796
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: to the people. I could fix it in a day.

797
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: All we have to do is put limits on corporate

798
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: and special interest gift giving donations to five h one ce.

799
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Speaker 5: They are restricted in federal elections.

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Speaker 2: We need to eliminate.

801
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Speaker 5: It or limit it in state elections, but then restore

802
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 5: the tax credit for individuals so that their political contributions

803
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 5: will receive a federal tax credit.

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Speaker 2: It is perfect policy.

805
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Speaker 5: It restores power to the people, It diminishes a special interest,

806
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 5: and it probably will likely never happen. It should right

807
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 5: along with term limits. You do those two things, we

808
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 5: would turn the model back up on its right side,

809
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 5: and we get the special interest in ordinate influence in

810
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 5: our government out of the picture, and we restore it

811
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Speaker 5: to you and me and your listeners tonight. And maybe

812
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 5: we get people who run for office who really truly

813
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Speaker 5: want to serve their community and not themselves. Maybe well,

814
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 5: I ran for Attorney General of Georgia two years ago

815
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 5: with President Trump's endorsement, and I would like to think

816
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 5: that I am the person that you're describing. At that time,

817
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 5: I was seventy years old. I'm now seventy two. I've

818
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Speaker 5: worked since i was twelve years old. I've saved I've invested,

819
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 5: I've been I've had a wonderful life. I'm a wife

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 5: of forty eight years, three adult sons. I'm very proud

821
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Speaker 5: of going to work, back to work and punching the clock,

822
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 5: even though I've never really stopped working. I just don't

823
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Speaker 5: go to the office, but and I've worked hard to

824
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Speaker 5: be able to put myself into that position. But going

825
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Speaker 5: back to a job where I'd have to punch a

826
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Speaker 5: clock every day was not desirable to me.

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Speaker 2: But what was desirable was to make.

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Speaker 5: A contribution to this country and help restore it to

829
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Speaker 5: the country that you and I grew up in and

830
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: a set of values and beliefs that made this country

831
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Speaker 5: what it is today.

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Speaker 2: Because I've got.

833
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Speaker 5: Two grandchildren and I really want them to be able

834
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Speaker 5: to live in a free society. And we were close

835
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: to losing it, very close in twenty twenty four after

836
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: Biden's disastrous four years, and we'll be right back in

837
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 5: that same position if the people of this country don't

838
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 5: assert themselves, make their voices heard, And it starts with

839
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 5: showing up at the poles, and you're going to have

840
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 5: an opportunity to do that in just a few short months.

841
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: The midterms are upon us, and the American people have

842
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 5: got to come back to the polls. If we are

843
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 5: a surrender control of the leftist lunatics, we're going to

844
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: be right back in a bad place.

845
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Speaker 2: If we're not careful.

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Speaker 1: We need more John Gordon's thank you for being our

847
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: John Gordon tonight. God bless you.

848
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Speaker 2: It was my pleasure. Thank you very much. And I'm

849
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: going to go. I guess looks for some firewood. I

850
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Speaker 2: hope I can find it.

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, you have our sympathy, John, take care, have

852
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: a good night. All right, a break, and then we'll

853
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: have Jim or and Acey, former congressman and businessman on

854
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more of this scuttle but

855
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night on seven utter WLW and next

856
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: guest I always seem to have on during government shutdowns

857
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: or potential government shutdowns. Jim or Nacy is a former congressman,

858
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: of course the candidate, and also a very very successful businessman,

859
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and he is our guest now for the

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00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: next half hours. So Jim Ernacy, good evening, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Welcome to another government shutdown.

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Speaker 4: Well, good evening, Gary, and yes we've got another government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: You know what's really ironic in all of this is

864
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Speaker 1: the subject apparently is ICE and reimagining ICE. Immigration and

865
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: Customs enforcement is funded through fiscal year twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: So if they shut the government down partially, they're not

867
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Speaker 1: doing anything to the funding for ICE. This was thanks

868
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Speaker 1: to the package approved with the Big Beautiful Bill in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. The legislation provides roughly seventy five to

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Speaker 1: eighty billion and additional resources that can be utilized through

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Speaker 1: September thirtieth of twenty twenty nine, allowing for a massive

872
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Speaker 1: expansion of detention beds and enforcement operations like the ones

873
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Speaker 1: that have been going on so famously or infamously in Minnesota.

874
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Speaker 1: So all of this noise about defunding ICE is nonsense.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a lot more to it. And

876
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: I think Gary, you and I have talked about this. Remember,

877
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: it's public perception, not always actually what's happening. And right now,

878
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: I just saw a poll that I think it's almost

879
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Speaker 4: sixty three percent of Americans do not like the actions

880
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: that are occurring with ICE. Now, it's strange because many Americans,

881
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 4: almost eighty percent, believe we need to remove illegal aliens

882
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: who are criminals from our country. So that's the key.

883
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 4: But the way they're being removed has caused President Trump

884
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: some problems. And so right now the Democrats, and I

885
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: always say shutdowns are about leverage. Who has the leverage

886
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: right now it's the Democrats and they know it, so

887
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: they feel pretty comfortable in saying, hey, we want some things,

888
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: or we're not going to sign off and reopen the government.

889
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and once again, people who work for the TSA

890
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: air traffic controllers, they're the ones who are going to

891
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: suffer and ultimately the public will suffer because of flight

892
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: delay and all the other things that happened during the

893
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Speaker 1: longest ever government shutdown last year. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Democrats gained any traction in that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they gained any positive traction at all when they did that,

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 1: and they were responsible for the last time.

897
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Speaker 4: Jim Well, again, I told you the scorecard, and whether

898
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: they did or didn't occur in November of this year.

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Speaker 4: We're now in the year and November will be the

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01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: real key. If the Democrats do believe they scored. I

901
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 4: always tell people, I don't know whether they did or didn't.

902
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: I do know people are frustrated. I do know independence

903
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: are frustrated, and that's a big block of voters who

904
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: will be voting in November. I do know that the

905
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: White House and Republicans want to work with Democrats in

906
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 4: this shutdown, So they must know something we don't know,

907
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: because otherwise they would sit back and say, well, we're

908
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: just not going to do anything.

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Speaker 2: I know.

910
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Speaker 4: So there are negotiations that have been agreed to. A

911
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: lot of things are going to happen, but first the

912
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: House has to come back and vote on what the

913
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 4: Senate approved over the weekend, which again is going to

914
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: be another hurdle, giving that the Speaker of the House

915
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 4: only has a one vote majority if he swears in

916
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: the individual from Texas that won his election over the weekend,

917
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 4: giving the Democrats another vote in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a vote that they had before the last

919
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: holder of that office died. He hasn't been present because

920
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't alive. He is the only Democrat that didn't

921
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: vote when he was dead. But here's the thing you

922
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: talked about perception becoming reality and the reason that in

923
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: these polls, this sixty percent plus of people who don't

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Speaker 1: approve of the way ICES going about doing their job.

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: A lot of that is because of most mainstream media

926
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: generated coverage of it, and also a good percentage of

927
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: it and again public perception. I agree with you, but

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01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: most of this has to do with the way Minnesota

929
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: has handled it with their sanctuary city and sanctuary state policies,

930
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: not allowing ICE to just go into the jails when

931
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Speaker 1: they've got criminal illegals already in custody, or letting them

932
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Speaker 1: know that they're there so they feel like they've because

933
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Speaker 1: they're turning them out on the streets, They've got to

934
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Speaker 1: go out in the streets and find them. That's the

935
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Speaker 1: reason ICE has performed this way. ICE is not performing

936
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Speaker 1: this way in every effort that they're making to get

937
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: illegal criminals out of the country, which, as you mentioned,

938
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: is one of those eighty twenty issues. Eighty percent of

939
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: the population wanting the criminal illegals out.

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Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent agree with you and book. Sanctuary

941
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 4: cities are nothing that I ever supported, but we have

942
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 4: them in Ohio. Again, we have five or six cities

943
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Speaker 4: in Ohio that are sanctuary cities. And I think the

944
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 4: one thing we always have to remember, and Gary, I

945
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 4: always go back to what I truly believe in the

946
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 4: federal government. If you really follow what the founders believe,

947
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: the federal government was not supposed to have more power

948
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 4: than the states. And this is part of the problem

949
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 4: that frustrates me, is that the states should be doing

950
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 4: a better job. I realized the governor of the state

951
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 4: of Minnesota is a Democrat who believes in sanctuary cities.

952
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 4: But he also got elected by those people too, So

953
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: I just always keep going back to the basis of

954
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 4: we're electing these people. People are electing them, and that's

955
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 4: what they want. I disagree with it, You disagree with it.

956
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: I disagree with it in Ohio, but we still have

957
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 4: sants Furya's cities in Ohio.

958
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: As well well.

959
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean Tim Walls, the D doesn't stand for Democrat

960
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: in the case of Tim Walls, it stands for dufus.

961
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean that guy proved it on the national stage

962
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: when he was running for a chance to be vice president.

963
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: At every turn, this guy's just goofy. It has nothing

964
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: to do with his political party or his position on anything.

965
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: He's just playing goofy. And you're right, the people of

966
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota elected him, which means there is a problem in

967
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: a state that prides himself on being one of the

968
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: most well educated populations in the country. It certainly doesn't

969
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: show by the people that they continue to elect to

970
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: represent them. My gosh, this is just crazy.

971
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to tell you a d little secret.

972
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 4: People don't elect qualified people. They elect people they like.

973
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 4: They elect people they feel comfortable with. Most of the time,

974
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 4: they don't even know their qualifications. And that's the problem

975
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 4: with our whole system across the country is that we

976
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 4: are electing people in many cases, not just in Minnesota,

977
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 4: but in other states and other counties, in other cities

978
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: that have no qualifications, but people either like them, people

979
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: believe in them, people feel comfortable with them without ever

980
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: really looking with their qualifications. And that's the problem with

981
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 4: our system. As great as it is, and it's better

982
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: than every other country in the world, we do have

983
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: the right to elect dufaces as you call them, but

984
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 4: really people that aren't qualified.

985
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. It's kind of like Bill Belichick not

986
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: being a first ballot Hall of Famer. It's all about

987
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: it's all about It's a popularity contest. Now, It's not

988
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: about for a high achievement. You know, the eight Super

989
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: Bowls he was responsible for, either as an assistant coach

990
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: or a head coach. It was just about ten or

991
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: eleven voters who just decided they don't like him. And

992
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: because of deflate Gator video game, Well what about the

993
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: other four that he want as a head coach?

994
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: You know.

995
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. Politics. It shouldn't be

996
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: like student council, but it seems to be that way

997
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times when it comes to who gets

998
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: elected and who doesn't.

999
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: Well, and again, politics are in everything we do. I

1000
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 4: still remember Jon bon Jovi was trying to get elected

1001
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: into the Hall of Fame rock and Roll Hall of

1002
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: Fame in Cleveland. I told the director, I'll never come

1003
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 4: to an event until you elect him, and he told

1004
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 4: me politics is stopping him from getting elected, even though

1005
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 4: he had a career for over twenty five years. So

1006
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 4: it happens even in rock and roll. And it's amazing,

1007
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: whether it's a foot NFL, whether it's rock and roll,

1008
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: or whether it's electing you know, the governor of the

1009
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,919
Speaker 4: state of Minnesota. It politics gets involved in almost everything

1010
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: we do. And I've learned that, I've accepted it, and

1011
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: I realized that sometimes we just don't put the right

1012
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 4: people or elect the right people because of politics.

1013
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: Jim, I think it was totally proper. It's been totally

1014
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: proper to call some of these so called protesters who

1015
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: are impeding a legal law enforcement effort there with ICE.

1016
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: I think it's totally right to call them domestic terrorists,

1017
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: many of them because of their actions. And you know,

1018
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: even Alex Breddy who eleven days before he was shot

1019
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: and killed by ICE agents. Whether he should have been

1020
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: or not is not the point. The point is eleven

1021
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: days before he was breaking the law, when he was

1022
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: vandalizing that van and spitting on ICE officers at another protest.

1023
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: Terrorism is the calculated use of unlawful violence or threat

1024
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: of violence to induce fear intended to coerce or intimidate

1025
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: governments or societies in the pursuit of ideological, political, or

1026
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: social objectives. I think that's the definition of a lot

1027
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: of these so called peaceful protesters in Minnesota, don't you.

1028
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, I do.

1029
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: And the only thing is, and I don't know all

1030
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 4: the facts, I'm just not sure if the response is

1031
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 4: shooting the individual. So I think in the end, like

1032
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: the kicking of the car and break he should have

1033
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,520
Speaker 4: been arrested, then, Yes, if.

1034
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: He'd been arrested, then he wouldn't be dead.

1035
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: Now, I bet you exactly.

1036
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: But I think what's happened is and I understand that

1037
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 4: these ice individuals, you know, they have to be concerned

1038
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 4: for their life as well, but force that the return

1039
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 4: of force always has to be justifiable. And that's the

1040
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 4: only thing that I can say about that incident. Don't

1041
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 4: know enough about it. I try not to make assumption.

1042
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: So many people, by the way, Garry, the biggest problem

1043
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: in our country right now is on social media, people convict.

1044
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I've told people on my social media accounts

1045
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 4: I would not want you to be in my jury

1046
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 4: if I was being tried, because they convict and sentence

1047
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 4: without even getting all the facts.

1048
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I agree with you wholeheartedly, and

1049
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: that this knee jerk, you know, assumption of things based

1050
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: on your own political preference or persuasion or your own beliefs,

1051
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: based without having all the facts. We've had some time

1052
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: now in the shooting of Alex Pretty and I'm not

1053
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: saying that he should be dead. I'm not saying that

1054
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: he should have been shot. But what I'm saying is

1055
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: there's been a little bit of time to kind of

1056
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: look at things and videos and reflect on what occurred there.

1057
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: This is not the day after that happened, Jim, And

1058
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: you're right on social media, the day after it happened,

1059
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: the Ice agents who shot him were murderers or he

1060
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: was a domestic terrorist and deserved it. I mean, within

1061
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: probably two hours of the occurrence and reporting of it,

1062
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: people were making these assumptions. We've had a little bit

1063
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: of time. I always think that you should wait before

1064
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: you respond to anything, even if it's a personal matter

1065
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: in a text or on social media. You should wait

1066
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: and take stock of everything that has gone on and

1067
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: think about it before you speak or sound out. I've

1068
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: had some time to think about it, So that's that's

1069
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: why I'm saying that he could have been guilty of

1070
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: domestic terrorism by the mere definition of terrorism and his actions.

1071
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1072
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: Oh no, and I had a percent agree, But I'm

1073
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 4: saying on social media and you said that, I saw

1074
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 4: within hours after that he was convicted should have been killed.

1075
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 4: I saw people post I would have shot him before

1076
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: he even moved. It's like, wow, we have gotten to

1077
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 4: the point where social media is the driver and of

1078
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: such radical responses without even sitting back and saying wait

1079
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 4: a minute, and then.

1080
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: And likewise, and likewise, on the other side, Ice agents

1081
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: were cold blooded murders. Hakeem Jeffries just said American taxpayer

1082
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Speaker 1: dollars are going are being spent to kill Americans. He

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Speaker 1: said that this weekend. It's totally irresponsible for him to

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: say that.

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 4: Well, I would agree, but again, all these situations, Gary,

1086
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: I used this example. You know, I carry my gun

1087
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 4: in church. It's approved that pastor proves me to do it,

1088
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 4: I said. I was telling one of the other ushers.

1089
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 4: If we're standing in the back of the church and

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, ten people come in with signs

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01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 4: and just stand there with signs, not interrupting, not disrupting,

1092
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 4: not doing anything that's legal, they're not disrupting. We have

1093
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 4: to stand there and not do anything. I would call

1094
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 4: the police. And if the police walked in and saw that,

1095
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 4: because I had pulled my gun and jumped on my

1096
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 4: back and started wrestling with me, and I'm going like

1097
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 4: what the hell is going on here and pushing them

1098
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 4: off of me. You know, some people would call me

1099
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 4: a domestic terrorist. Without knowing all the facts as well.

1100
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 4: And that's sometimes what we have to pay attention to too.

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: It's there are so many times that these kinds of

1102
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 4: things can happen, and it's it's really not what you see.

1103
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 4: So and I'm not I'm not saying that's about the

1104
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 4: individual in Minneapolis.

1105
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

1106
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: Every situation needs to be reviewed to its fullest and

1107
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 4: then we make our decisions, and really the court should

1108
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 4: make the final decision, which I'm sure is going to

1109
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 4: happen in these cases in Minnesota as well.

1110
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1111
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: And and the sad truth of it is in the

1112
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: in the moment, law enforcement in a life or death

1113
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: situation doesn't have time to sit and reflect a lot

1114
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: of times, Jim, and you know that that is a

1115
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: that is a decision of the moment, by by necessity,

1116
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,440
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a bad decision, unfortunately.

1117
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 4: Exactly right, but there's still good people. I have always

1118
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: supported our police, and you're right, they're going to make

1119
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 4: mistakes and I think we need to understand that as well.

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: Well.

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: I I fully appreciate you coming on in the sun

1122
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: night to talk to me. Thanks a lot again for

1123
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: coming to my rescue. I appreciate it.

1124
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we can do this one of these times

1125
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 4: when we have not closed the government down.

1126
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's that's in the cards

1127
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: for the immediate future. Jim, thank you so much.

1128
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: All right, thank you you bet.

1129
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: Dan was my Second Amendment guru, coming up right after

1130
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: the News a day and to another hour of this

1131
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: Sunday Night edition Gary Jeff Walker and from Mike Allen

1132
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: Junior on this Sunday evening for the next half hours

1133
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: so till the Sunday Supplement coase lead into the Bill

1134
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show nationally and locally here on the Big One

1135
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: about seven or eight. I lose track of the time,

1136
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: but it was when I first started doing nights on

1137
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: the Big One. I was looking for guests, interesting guys

1138
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: who knew what they were talking about. And I found

1139
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: this guy was promoted as being a Second Amendment guy,

1140
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: and was intrigued by the name of his website and

1141
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: the name of his books that he had written a

1142
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: Good Gun, Bad Guy dot com. And since then he's everywhere.

1143
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: Man.

1144
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: He's on YouTube, the show called Loaded Mike. He writes

1145
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: for AMMO Land and if you're a Second Amendment enthusiast.

1146
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, he's probably my second favorite Second

1147
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: Amendment supporter, at least that I've interviewed, the first being

1148
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: Ted Nugent, which he has interviewed himself. And to talk

1149
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: about that maybe a little bit and more, Dan was

1150
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: is back on the show, Dan, how are you?

1151
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: Gary?

1152
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 9: Jeff Hey, thanks for.

1153
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 11: Having me on your show. I was, I was listening

1154
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 11: on going what is he talking about? Second favorite? And

1155
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 11: then you said Ted NuGen I'm like, oh, that's cool.

1156
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: And you did interview Ted. How many times have you

1157
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: interviewed Ted NuGen?

1158
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 5: No?

1159
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 9: No, actually Ted interviewed me.

1160
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: Ah this job, So so how'd that go? Tell me

1161
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: about that experience? First?

1162
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 9: Oh, man, that was great. He's such a cool guy.

1163
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 11: We had such a great conversation and you know, we

1164
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 11: joked around, we laughed. If people want to see that interview,

1165
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 11: and I suggest you do, it's a lot of fun.

1166
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 11: Just search the Dan wass or Good Gun, Bad Guy

1167
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 11: YouTube page. It's on there and you can watch it.

1168
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 11: And who we just had a blast. He's just a

1169
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 11: down to earth guy. We talked about guns and stuff

1170
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 11: and and just all sorts of all sorts of Plus

1171
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 11: we're both guitar players.

1172
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 9: So that was kind of cool.

1173
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 11: And he's always been, you know, always been an inspiration

1174
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 11: to meet for of mine, ever since I started playing guitar,

1175
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 11: because he's got probably about well, I probably got a

1176
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 11: ten or fifteen years on me. But yeah, yeah, at

1177
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 11: least I think, but yeah, something like that.

1178
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the thing. You have a lot

1179
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: of varied interest. This has become kind of like, uh,

1180
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: your your main focus is gun rights, the Second Amendment,

1181
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 1: and you've built a career out of that on social

1182
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: media and and all kinds of media, including this and

1183
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: and your book series, the Good Gun, Bad Guy book series.

1184
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: But and you you play, you play guitar, and you

1185
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: also collect cars, don't you.

1186
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, I played guitar since I was just a

1187
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 10: little kid.

1188
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 9: I played in rock bands.

1189
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 11: I toured with rock bands, did a lot of stuff

1190
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 11: up and down the East Coast, played in Manhattan and

1191
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 11: New York City for a good number of years, and.

1192
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 9: Uh did I did all sorts of stuff musically.

1193
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 11: I I auditioned for the Red Hot Chili Peppers back

1194
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 11: in the nineties.

1195
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 9: I did a ton of stuff.

1196
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 11: You know, Ultimately, I think if we don't get a

1197
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 11: chance to do the things we love, and we're not

1198
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 11: living our life the way the way I think God intended,

1199
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 11: you know, So try to grab on everything you can

1200
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 11: and do everything you love. Collecting corvettes, yeah, I've done.

1201
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 11: I've restored probably about twenty corvettes and have a couple

1202
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 11: of them, you know, a couple of them, always hanging around,

1203
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 11: at least two or.

1204
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 9: Three hanging around. And yeah, yeah, and then the Second

1205
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 9: Amendment stuff.

1206
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: Well, what what happened?

1207
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 9: Dan?

1208
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: I got to ask you what happened with the red

1209
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: hot chili peppers? You just weren't willing to pull it

1210
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: out on stage.

1211
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 9: It was that wasn't willing to wear.

1212
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 11: There was there was a lot of U There was

1213
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 11: a lot of guys auditioning. I remember getting a call

1214
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 11: on a Tuesday. I was at my record store. I

1215
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 11: owned a record store at the time, and I got

1216
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 11: this call from Ingrid from Warner Brothers.

1217
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 9: And I said, yeah, right.

1218
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 11: Ingrid, Yeah sure, and he said, no, really, we want

1219
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 11: you to come out and audition and you be here

1220
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 11: in Hollywood on Thursday.

1221
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 10: And I said, well, yeah, okay, I'll be there.

1222
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 11: So I rented, you know, got it, got an air

1223
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 11: air flight and rented a car when I got out

1224
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 11: there and did the audition.

1225
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 9: On a whim.

1226
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 11: I'm a I came from the hair band rock metal

1227
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 11: guitar playing school of you know school, and this Chili

1228
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 11: Peppers was They're very uh funk based. Oh yeah, it

1229
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 11: wasn't It definitely was not my style of guitar. But

1230
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 11: it was a great experience. And you know, they end

1231
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 11: up getting Navarro what's his name, uh tattooed. Yeah, so he.

1232
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 9: Ended up getting getting the Dave Navarro.

1233
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1234
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 10: And but it was a great experience, had a good time,

1235
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 10: you know, and.

1236
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:57,440
Speaker 11: Just another experience to add to my my life, My my,

1237
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 11: my great life.

1238
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: So so you play in any hair metal bands that

1239
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: people would know they just local, regional kind of acts.

1240
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,759
Speaker 11: Well, I played in a band in New York City

1241
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 11: called Bandit, and I played in a bunch of local

1242
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 11: bands up here in New York. I did a Kiss

1243
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 11: tribute band for a while which we toured up and

1244
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 11: down the East Coast, and there's a lot of a

1245
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 11: lot of stuff, just a lot of local, kind of

1246
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 11: mid level bar band.

1247
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 9: Type stuff, so kind of semi.

1248
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 11: Pro if you can call it that. Where we toured

1249
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 11: up and down yeah, clubs East Coast stuff. Never really

1250
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 11: quite made it to that peak level, but recorded a

1251
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 11: couple of albums and and you know it had a

1252
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 11: pretty good musical career.

1253
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 9: Fun a fun time anyway.

1254
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, you can't really say you were

1255
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: in a Kiss tribute band unless the Kiss tribute band

1256
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: went on a ten year farewell tour.

1257
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 9: Exactly.

1258
01:21:58,600 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: This is the last.

1259
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 9: Time we swear, Yeah, we swear.

1260
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 5: Is that?

1261
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite Corvette that you've worked all?

1262
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: Do you have? Do you have a you have the

1263
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: best baby? Can you pick one?

1264
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1265
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 11: I think if I had to get back one that

1266
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 11: I loved more than anything that I sold, it was

1267
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 11: a sixty nine Riverside Gold three point fifty three fifty

1268
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 11: horse power.

1269
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 9: With a with a for speed. That was just an

1270
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 9: incredible car.

1271
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, if I could get that one back, I'd love

1272
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 11: to have had a couple of the seventy eight pace cars.

1273
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 9: I've had all sorts of.

1274
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 11: C threes and and see four C five's. I've got

1275
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 11: a couple of nice ones right now, But the sixty

1276
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 11: nine was probably the one that I loved the most.

1277
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1278
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: Of course you've been to Bowling Green.

1279
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I went to the the Corvette Museum.

1280
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 10: Coming back from Arkansas.

1281
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 11: I was doing a Second Amendment run down there, speaking

1282
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 11: at some events in Arkansas and Alabama, and my son

1283
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 11: and I drove back and said, we got to stop.

1284
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 11: And it was after they rebuilt from the from the sinkhole.

1285
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember the same, Yes, I do, my wife

1286
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: and I. My wife and I both had never been.

1287
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, I used to live in Middle Tennessee, just

1288
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: about you know, thirty forty miles from Bowling Green where

1289
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: they make the corvettes. And the museum's been there obviously

1290
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,839
Speaker 1: a long time. And then they had the famous sinkhole

1291
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: you were talking about, where you know, the thing just

1292
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: kind of caved in and took some vets with it,

1293
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: obviously that were on the floor. And we went after

1294
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: the sinkhole, and they had cars that they were able

1295
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: to recover and restore, but then they had one famously

1296
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: on display that couldn't be restored. And then you know,

1297
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 1: you step across the floor in that little plexi glass

1298
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: hole that's left that they left there, and you look

1299
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: down and how far that sucker went, and you wonder

1300
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: how anything survived.

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Speaker 11: You know, Yeah, there were some beautiful cars lost in

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Speaker 11: that thing and then and when you look in the photos,

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Speaker 11: it look like there are hot wheels cars down in

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Speaker 11: a dirt pile, exact.

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Speaker 10: But they saved that pretty sure, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 10: they saved the one existing nineteen eighty three Corvette, which

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Speaker 10: eighty three Corvette never made production that year, so there

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Speaker 10: was one or of very few prototypes of the nineteen

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Speaker 10: eighty three, and so Corvette went from nineteen eighty two

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Speaker 10: to nineteen eighty four, which was interesting.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what, you know, I've never been able to

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Speaker 1: answer myself because I've never really had a favorite car

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Speaker 1: or a you know, one that I really just loved

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Speaker 1: and went all in for. I've had a few favorites

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Speaker 1: in my life, but I never got into to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a fanboy and a fishinado of a certain

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Speaker 1: make and model of cars. Well, what what did it

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Speaker 1: for you with Corvettes? Oh, it's a good question.

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Speaker 11: When I was a kid, my friend his mom had

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Speaker 11: a seventy two Green seventy two in the garage, and

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Speaker 11: there was just something about that. We're kids. I'd walk

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Speaker 11: in and I kept asking my friend. His name was Bill,

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Speaker 11: and I said, let's go back to the garage. I

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Speaker 11: got to go back to the garage. I want to

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Speaker 11: go back to the garage. I kept going back, and

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Speaker 11: he kept taking me back, and he was getting annoyed

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Speaker 11: with me because all I could do was stare at

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Speaker 11: that Corvette, because something about the curves of that car

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Speaker 11: and just something about the Corvette. And people who are

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Speaker 11: Corvette lovers will understand that some people hate them, but

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Speaker 11: some people.

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Speaker 9: Really really appreciate that.

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Speaker 11: It was that time when I was a kid, I

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Speaker 11: just got fascinated with it for some reason.

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Speaker 10: Visually, it was the most incredible car I'd ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, the classic Corvettes are very aesthetically pleasing,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about, just to just to gaze upon. All Right,

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Speaker 1: it's the Second Amendment stuff. Alex Preddingck a licensed gun owner.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had the permit on all of that.

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Speaker 1: We believe in the Second Amendment. My question for you,

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Speaker 1: Dan was is, yes, the Constitution says that we are

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Speaker 1: all we all legally have the right as lawful citizens

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Speaker 1: to own and bear firearms, and not just for hunting. Right,

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Speaker 1: but with that comes responsibility. With every right that we

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Speaker 1: have that's guaranteed by our constitution, not given to us

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Speaker 1: by the government. But by God, and it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be ensured by our government that those rights are kept sacred.

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Speaker 1: But with every one of those rights, each of us

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Speaker 1: has a responsibility, yes or no.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I always say, you know, since this thing happened, I

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Speaker 11: been talking about it on radio and TV, and you know,

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Speaker 11: he had the right to exercise his Second Amendment along

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Speaker 11: with his First Amendment, and even at protest.

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Speaker 9: That's his right to do that. We support that. I

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Speaker 9: don't think carrying a gun was his issue.

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Speaker 11: I think, you know, getting involved in the police activity

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Speaker 11: that was the problem. You can't commit you can't commit

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Speaker 11: a crime, you know, when you're when you're carrying a gun.

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Speaker 11: Committing a crime while carrying a gun brings brings with

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Speaker 11: it a whole different number of results.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I don't condemn.

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Speaker 11: I don't could of course, I don't condemn carrying a

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Speaker 11: gun and go into a protest.

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Speaker 10: It's the behavior that I condemned it.

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Speaker 11: Here's the thing, responsible gun owners, we don't we.

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Speaker 9: Stay out of trouble.

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Speaker 11: We avoid situations, We avoid conflict with every chance we

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Speaker 11: can get. We try to do everything we can to

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Speaker 11: avoid conflict. These leftists are going right into the most

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Speaker 11: volable place in the country, and there they seem to

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Speaker 11: be looking for trouble.

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Speaker 9: That's where we should be focused.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, Well, the thing you can carry out

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Speaker 1: in most states, you can have a gun on you.

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Speaker 1: If you go to your bank to make a withdrawal.

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Speaker 1: If you go to your bank and you've got a

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Speaker 1: gun and you tell the teller to give me all

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Speaker 1: your money or I'm gonna shoot you, that's a crime.

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Speaker 1: And carrying a weapon, and carrying a weapon adds more

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Speaker 1: to that crime. That becomes the crime is the fact

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Speaker 1: that you were in commission of a crime. If you're

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Speaker 1: impeding law enforcement who are doing what the law tells

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Speaker 1: them that they need to do to enforce laws on

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01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: the books, and you're carrying a weapon and you impede them,

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Speaker 1: or you get in their way, or do you vandalize

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Speaker 1: their vehicle or anything else, you're in commission of a

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Speaker 1: crime with a weapon, and it's a different deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I believe everybody should carry a gun wherever they are.

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Speaker 11: I mean, yes, except in the except in the swimming

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Speaker 11: pool maybe. But uh but I I so, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 9: There's no there's no issue there.

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Speaker 11: I don't believe people should be committing crimes exactly.

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Speaker 9: It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, Renee Good had a license to drive her car,

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Speaker 1: but she didn't have a license to run over an

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Speaker 1: ice agent with her car.

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Speaker 9: I think we agree.

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Speaker 11: And I think as this, as this situation is starting

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01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 11: to unfold and everybody's talking about it and they're doing

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01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 11: the investigation, I think it's becoming very clear where the

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Speaker 11: where everybody stands. Nowbody's kind of finding that place that

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01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 11: we're talking about and saying, yeah, Okay, he.

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Speaker 9: Had the right, but he didn't have the right to

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Speaker 9: commit the crime.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, get involved and then you know, and then you

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Speaker 11: can add all the other stuff. The previous video of

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Speaker 11: him kicking out the yeah, the tail light and spinning.

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Speaker 1: On the car.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so it kind of kind of shows toward his

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01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 11: character a little bit more, which, you know, again just

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Speaker 11: shows that he was not a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good gun, bad guy dot com. That's that's all

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Speaker 1: it in a nutshell, Any.

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Speaker 9: Gun's good, it's the guy, it's the people the crime.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 10: That's why the book is called The Gun, Bad Guy.

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Speaker 1: Is Is there anything else on your radar right now?

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01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: Just in the brief few minutes we have left anything

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01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: that Dan was would let everybody know about what you're

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: doing and what's going on legally around the country with

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Speaker 1: gun rights.

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Speaker 11: Well, there's a lot of stuff with looking I'd like

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Speaker 11: to see the National Concealed Carry Reciprocity get passed, and

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01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 11: that's would help people. I do a lot of traveling,

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01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 11: and and just you know, you don't want to become

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01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 11: a felon just by crossing the state line, and you know,

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01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 11: carrying a gun the wrong way, transporting a gun into

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Speaker 11: a state the wrong way.

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Speaker 9: So we want concealed carry reciprocity where your.

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Speaker 11: Permit, no matter what state you're in, is valid in

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01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 11: any and all states, just like your driver's license. That's

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Speaker 11: that's Hr thirty eight. Keep your eye on that. I'd

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01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 11: love to see that go through. There's some stuff with

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Speaker 11: the NFA to getting rid of the registration for short

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Speaker 11: barrels and suppressors.

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Speaker 9: And you know, there's a few.

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Speaker 11: Big pieces of legislation that are court cases rather that

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01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 11: are being discussed. And now we're talking about bringing some

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Speaker 11: assault the so called assault weapons ban cases to the

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01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 11: Supreme Court, which would be good. A lot of stuff

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01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 11: going on, too much to really get into all the

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01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 11: details here, but keep an eye on that stuff, and

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01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 11: you follow my stuff and I can I do a

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Speaker 11: video series for Gun Owners Foundation and Gun Owners of America.

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01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 11: You can find that bullet points with Dan Wass at YouTube,

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01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 11: and you can also follow my stuff on amimal land

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01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 11: and go to gun owners dot org.

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01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:24,799
Speaker 9: For the real information.

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01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 11: Hi, I'm a high supporter of a Gun Owners of America,

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01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 11: the great, great organization.

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01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 9: I'm involved heavily with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Another friend that I talked to, Steven Williford, of course,

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Speaker 1: also a member of Gun Owners of America and a

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Speaker 1: spokesperson for them. Ye As we've talked about you and

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01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I have talked about before. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: to one of the safest place in America save us,

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01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: go to a gun owner's convention or go to a

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Speaker 1: gun show, and it's one of the most polite, safe

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01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: places you could be in the country. And if guns

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01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: were the problem, that wouldn't be the case. Dan Watts,

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Speaker 1: Good Gunbadguy dot com, Gun Owners of America, and the

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01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: videos are out there, and you do that on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, And thank you for doing this tonight. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Danny anytime, pal, I really appreciate what you're doing Thanks,

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Speaker 11: thanks a lot, we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 1: It was fun talking about Ted NuGen and playing guitar

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01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and hairbands, getting rejected by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

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01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: and all those core vettes. Thank you for putting up

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Speaker 1: with me, Gary Jeff Out Sunday supplement in and Willie

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Speaker 1: Nationwide coming up on this Sunday evening, Keep it here

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Speaker 1: by the Way nightcap Tomorrow night and Tuesday night nine

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Speaker 1: to midnight with another great slew of guests for you

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