1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger, better, 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight fugit Sound 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between. There's 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick, here's 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Larry Stone. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: You know what this means. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: If we're going to keep doing this, we got to 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: keep getting Larry Stone some RAM gift cards. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: Can you handle that? 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 4: By the way? 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: Okay, good, as long as you know. Is this an extension? 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely, This is not a part of the original deal man. Yeah, 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: this is an addendum to the original agreement with Larry. 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 3: So let's get the guy taking care of Larry. How 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: are you, pal, I'm doing good. Keep those RAM cards 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: coming out. Yes, I'm here for you. 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Oh yes, all right. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: Did you stay up to watch all eighteen innings last night? 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: I did? I did. I was not going to turn 21 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: that thing off until it was over. Yeah. I was 22 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: getting a little worried that it might go to about 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: two in the morning, but Freddy Freeman took care of that. 24 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Was it a great game? 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 5: Or just a great event, because those are two different things. 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: I think it was a great game, Dick. I mean 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: there was. There was a lot of things happened. You know, 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: guys getting thrown out on the bases, you know, Tany's day, 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: Kershaw coming in. I just I just think it was 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: very eventful and very tense because they had hung in 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: the balance for about six hours. So I wouldn't in 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: fact call it great game. 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: Well, I gotta be honest with you, Larry. I stayed 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: up for the entire thing, just like you. I turned 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: it on in the bottom of the ninth to see 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: if the Dodgers could could get to win. I've tried 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: to purposely stay away because it just makes me sick 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: thinking about what could have been. And I turned it 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: on in the bottom of the ninth and I just 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: kept watching. And then the Blue Jays lost, and I 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: was in a pretty good mood. And then I saw 42 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: your tweet. It's like you. 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Came into my living room and you whispered my Will 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Klein played for Tacoma, and. 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, really, really, I mean, tell us about 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: this because Will Kline, I mean, he looked unbelievable last night. 47 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 4: He did, and I mean, John Smoltz, who knows a 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: little bit about pitching, was just talking about how great 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 4: his stuff was. And I'll be honest, Softy, I completely 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: forgot he was in the Americaners organization. But I'm on 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: a I'm in a chat group with Mike Kurdo, the 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: former voice of the Very Years, and he pointed out 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: that this guy was in Tacoma this year with a 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: seven point one seven e er. So I did so. 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: I immediately looked it up, and sure enough, he was 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: traded in June for a thirty year old left hander 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: named Joe Jack who didn't do very well in Tacoma either, 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: and you know will clinb and do very well and 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: for the Dodgers in the minors. But you know, he 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: had the game of his life. He'll always have that game. 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: He was just incredible, you know, going way beyond what 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: anyone expected of him. Mormon innings and I think they 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: probably felt comfortable going, but they didn't have anybody else. 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: They were gonna have to go to Yama Moto in 65 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 4: the nineteenth or the Gail Ross one or the other 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: as an aside. When when they had a report where 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: I think it was Verduce she said that Dave Roberts 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 4: said they were going to go to a position player 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: if they didn't score in the eighteenth and I was thinking, 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: what a disgrace that would be to have a position 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: player pitching in the World Series. So I'm glad that didn't. 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: Happen, which has never happened right ever, Yeah. 73 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: Never unless you count Babe Ruth and Shoe Otani position players. 74 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not one of those. 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: And there are people out there, oh, like, way to go, 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: Jerry getting rid of Will Klein. I'm not one of 77 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: those people, because I understand he was terrible in Tacoma, 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: as you mentioned, he was even terrible in the Dodger 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 5: system is as well. 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: But Softie writes the point earlier. It's like, the. 81 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: Guy does throw one hundred miles an hour. So at 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 5: what point, when you got a guy that throws a 83 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: hundred do you just have to put him somewhere in 84 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 5: your system to see if you can harness something over 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: the course of three or four months, and then move 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: him up when he gets some control. 87 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's that's fair. I think they tried that. 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: I think that's why they acquired him. I can't remember 89 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: what organization they got him from in the offseason, and 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: he was actually up with the Mariners. Adam Jude had 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: a story about that today. He came up for one 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: game when they were short in the bullpen. He was 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: out in the bullpen for a game. They didn't need him, 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 4: somebody got healthy or you know, got some rest, and 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: they sent him back to Tacoma. So he was a 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: Mariner this year for it for a day. Yeah, you know, 97 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: they have they're pretty good at taking guys. You know, 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: this organization has a good track record of taking guys 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: like him who have not succeeded but have tools and 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: turning him into pretty good relievers. And they just didn't 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: work with this guy for whatever reason. I think they 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 4: probably felt they needed more left handed options at that 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: point of the season. So you know, they traded him 104 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: for a guy who never made it to the majors 105 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: with them, and may and may never but I agree 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: it's one that got away. But you know, at the time, 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody e'ven blinked an eye enough transaction 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: if they even noticed it, which I got to say 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: I did not now. 110 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: Of course not. 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: He was deffayed by the A's on January seventeenth and 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: four days later shipped off to Seattle. So he was 113 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: with Oakland, but Larry Stones with us courtesy of the 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: Ram and Larry, you mentioned Babe Ruth and Showho Tani. 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: And for as sick of as the as we are 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: of the Lebron mj debate, the Babe Ruth O'tani debate 117 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: is going to rage, and it's going to rage for 118 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: a long long time. I don't want to share any thoughts. 119 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: I want to give you the floor. No leading question 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: is okay. So when you hear people say greatest of 121 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: all time, surpassing Babe Ruth, where do you weigh in 122 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: on that? 123 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's one of the few people who has seen 124 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: both of them play. 125 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: Dick said it first. 126 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: Well, I believe me. I've heard I've heard versions of 127 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: that joke now about one hundred times a year for 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: about the last ten years as the senior statesman of 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: Seattle media. There's not another Babe Ruth. I mean he 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: was transformational. I mean he was a larger than life figure. 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: But I think if you look at achievements, I think Otani, 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: you know, maybe on the verge of surpassing the Babe 133 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: Babe did not pitch for very long. Otani has been 134 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: you know, he's been a quality pitcher for a number 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: of years with the time out for a couple of injuries. 136 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: And I think he's playing you know, you know, his offense. 137 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: This is a completely different era, and it's it's harder 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: to put up numbers like he like he is putting 139 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: up in this era. So, uh, I think it's a 140 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: it's a fair comparison. You know. I don't think he'll 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: ever match Babe Ruth for cultural impact, but I think 142 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: I think he's on the par with him as a 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: you know, talent wise, in production wise. 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: What's hard for me to weigh with with Babe Ruth 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: is okay. On the positives, is just the dominance, like 146 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: out homering like. 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: Half the league. 148 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as that, But then the negative being 149 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: he played against a really small sub section of baseball 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: players in America versus what they're playing now. 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's an absolutely valid point. You know, he 152 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: didn't play against anybody of color, anyone from Latin America. 153 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: There were eight teams in the American League, so he 154 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: saw pitchers over and over again. There wasn't release, there 155 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: wasn't relaf specialists. They weren't throwing one hundred miles an 156 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: hour or anywhere close, so uh, you know, the gloves 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: weren't as good. I mean, there's there's so many factors 158 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: that that I think helped his production. Not to say 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 4: he wasn't great, but uh, you know, I'm a firm 160 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: believer that athletes of today are vastly superior to athletes 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: of that era. And I think the game has played 162 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: it it sure, you know, I know, at a at 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: a much higher level than it was than it was 164 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: back then. For all the complaints you hear from from 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: the previous generation that these guys don't know how to 166 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: play baseball, I think I think that's just a typical, 167 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: you know, get off my lawn type of reaction. And 168 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: I think that there is skilled as they've ever been 169 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: and will continue to be with each succeeding generation. 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they're bigger, faster, stronger, right. 171 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: I mean, like we've talked about a couple of times, 172 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: I mean humans have evolved. I mean, look at look 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: at what people looked like and how tall they were 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: and how fast they were and forty yard one hundred 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: meter dash times and marathon times from one hundred years 176 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: ago versus today, it's totally different. So yeah, I mean, 177 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, is it possible, Larry, Like my take is 178 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: this that I think if you want to argue that 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: shohe is a better athlete and even a better baseball 180 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: player than Babe Ruth, I got no problem with that. 181 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Is it one hundred years later, like we said, you know, 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: humans have evolved, But I think the dominance of Babe Ruth, 183 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: like when he retired, he had three hundred and thirty 184 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: six more home runs than the next guy. Like, we'll 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: never see anything like that dominance, right. 186 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: No, No, that's that's will never be even approached again. 187 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: But you know, there's the element of pitching too. I mean, 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: Ruth was a good pitcher, but not for very long, 189 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: you know. And when you factor in the fact that 190 00:09:54,600 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 4: Otani is a dominant, overpowering pitcher in addition to being 191 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: you know, the slugger than he is, I think that 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 4: that is the difference maker for him. You know. 193 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: It's it's interesting that the talk in the NBA the 194 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 5: last year has been for can foreign players be the 195 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 5: face of the league, and it's been a problem for 196 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: the NBA. 197 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Why is it not a problem in baseball? 198 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: Because Shoe certainly along with Aaron Judge, of the faces 199 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 5: of this league. 200 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure I have an answer to that. 201 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: I think there's been foreign players in baseball for so 202 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: long it's just become part of the fabric of the sport, 203 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: going back to you know, Roberto Clemente or you know, 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: even before that. It's not a new thing, you know, 205 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: it's that that's what baseball is is. It's a worldwide game, 206 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: and the Latin players are completely dominant, and now the 207 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: Japanese players are getting to be dominant as well. So 208 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 4: and I think he's a likable guy, even though we 209 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: don't know his personality because we don't hear him talk 210 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: in his native language and haven't seen many interviews with 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: him where he really opens up. It doesn't doesn't seem 212 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: like he wants to open up. But there is still, 213 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: I think a likability factor with him. And I think 214 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: there's just an awe of his achievement in the same 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 4: way there was with like a Bo Jackson. 216 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: No doubt, I mean, none of you saw it. Last night. 217 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: There was a video the Dodgers put out of Dave 218 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Roberts in the clubhouse and he looks over at show 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: Hay and show Hey's like going into his wind up, 220 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: like he's reminding people he's starting tomorrow, and it was 221 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: it was really playful. 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: It was a very very cool moment. 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: So he looks like a great teammate and a guy 224 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: that people have fun playing with. 225 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: But Larry stones with us. And do you still read 226 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: the paper The Times, by the way every now and then? 227 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: Okay, I dothfully? 228 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: What did you make of John Stanton's letter he published? 229 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: I think they should hire him as a staff writer. 230 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: He's got some real talent. 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: And what did you make of what you read in 232 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: the paper? 233 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 4: Man? I thought it was a good move by him. 234 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: I still think, you know, the the proof is in 235 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: the pudding. They it's all well and good to say 236 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: that stuff. The fans wanted to see him go out 237 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: and spend money and then then they'll love them again. 238 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of pressure on them this offseason, 239 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: I think, to to go spend And you know, I 240 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: didn't see anything in that letter that indicates what they're 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: going to do and how aggressive they're going to be. 242 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: And I think that's that's going to be the story 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: of the off season for the Mariners. 244 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that he could have taken it 245 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: one step further, right, he says, I know we're going 246 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: to get there. There is work to do to take 247 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: that final step. That work starts now. It would have 248 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 5: been I think, taking the next step and say we 249 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: will we will do what it takes to put a 250 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 5: team on the field that can can win the World 251 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 5: Series next year. And I don't think that would have 252 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: you know, wouldn't it cost him any extra money to 253 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 5: do that? 254 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: But I think it would have been a nice statement, 255 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: don't you. 256 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have. I mean, I sort of understand 257 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: from a pragmatic point of view why they didn't do 258 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: that kind of box themselves into where, you know, you 259 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 4: promised that you were going to do this, but you know, 260 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: if you know, maybe you know, if they could have 261 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: the full intention to do that and not have anybody 262 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: who wants to come play here, right and so you know, 263 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: would that be a failure if that happened, if they 264 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: said that they were going to do whatever it takes. So, 265 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I understand it. It's all rhetoric and words. Anyway, 266 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: what's no one will remember that letter if they go 267 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: out and sign Naylor and bring in you know, Alex 268 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: Bregman or something like that. 269 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of it leaves some room for translation, 270 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. But Larry, before you go, 271 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: you mentioned Naylor right there, and I guess my question 272 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: would be this, outside of the ridiculous, which is somebody 273 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: offering him sixty million dollars a year, you see any 274 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: realistic reason why the Mariners should lose him? 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I think the only reason be if 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 4: he really wants to go somewhere else. He said all 277 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: the right things. I think it's you know, a good 278 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: agent will tell players to act like they want to 279 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: play everywhere so that there's an impression that they have 280 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: bargaining power and that they have interests, and so you know, 281 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: it could force their price up. But I think it 282 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: was genuine. I think he really did enjoy playing here, 283 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: and it's just this makes too much sense for both sides. 284 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: On the other hand, he's a free agent, and you know, 285 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: he can determine where he wants to go. Maybe he 286 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: loved playing in Cleveland and wants to go back there. 287 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: Maybe he wants to try out New York or something. 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: So you know, we really don't know his deep, deepest 289 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: desires as far as where he wants to play, But 290 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: my indica edication and my feeling is that he wants 291 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: to play here and they want him, and usually those 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: two things will lead to a lead to a deal. 293 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: Right, Larry, great stuff, Enjoy the rest of the world series, 294 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: and if this thing goes nineteen tonight, we expect you 295 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: to be up tweeting about it like you were last night. Okay, pell, Hey, look, 296 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: you're retired. You're retired, you got nothing else to do. 297 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Come on, man, we're going to rely on you. 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: That's right. I could sleep in now, that's right. 299 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, the rest of us have jobs. Man, 300 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: Come on, Larry, you're the man, great stuff, and we'll. 301 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Talk sooner, right, all right? 302 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: See you get all. 303 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: Right, Larry Stone with us on the radio show. 304 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: The Otani Babe debate's going to rage, man, rage and 305 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: rage and rage. 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Yeah, you know, 329 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: Seahawks are a two and a half point favorite this 330 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: Sunday night at the Commanders. 331 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. 332 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: When you were watching the Commanders beat the tar out 333 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: of the Detroit Lions, a year ago in the playoffs. 334 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Remember that if I would have told you right then there. Hey, Dick, 335 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: by the way, just so you know, in like a 336 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: year from now, we're going to will be favorite. 337 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: Never that when we weren't favored at the beginning of 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: the year either. 339 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: I mean that was one that was when we were 340 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: pretty one of the biggest underdogs of the year preseason. 341 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: I mean that line. 342 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 3: This feels like it's right for the Hawks to go 343 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: in there and Yanka win out of DC? 344 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: Does it not? 345 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 5: Tangibles versus intangibles, right? The tangibles say absolutely. The tangibles 346 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: say the Seahawks are a younger, better football team. Washington 347 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 5: is old and broken compared to what they were last year. 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: The intangibles say, though, Washington just got off getting their 349 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: butts kicked. 350 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: You know how we liked the bet on teams that 351 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: just got my butt kicks? And the Seahawks have won 352 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: what on the road? How many in a row on 353 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: the road? Four and eight? I'm sorry, ten and one? 354 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: Okay, how long is that really gonna continue? So it's 355 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 5: for me it is what weighs more the intangibles I 356 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 5: just pointed out, or the tangibles I pointed. 357 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 3: Out, man Dick is just bringing the whole room down here. 358 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: I mean, that road streak is gonna end well, but 359 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: I will I agree with you. 360 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: But you know what, the eventually the home streak's gonna 361 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: end too. They're gonna get way better at home and 362 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: they're gonna get quite a bit worse on the road 363 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: over the next time. 364 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 365 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: They're five and two, So even if they lose the 366 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: Commander game Cardinals and Home is a game they should win. 367 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: The Ram game is kind of a toss up in La, 368 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: but Rams will be favored. So if they split the 369 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: two Ram games, they lose the game there, but they 370 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: win the game here. They're one and two in their 371 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: next three games, so they're a six and four football team. 372 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: Then you've got what's the opposite of Murderers, Row cup Cake, Row, 373 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: Dope Row, Titans, Vikings Atlanta before they play the Colts 374 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: absolutely wonder then they got the Rams absolutely So they're 375 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: a six and four team, and all of a sudden, 376 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: now they're a nine and four team. They win those 377 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: three games, they lose the game to the Colts, they're 378 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: nine and five. Beat the Rams here they're ten and five. 379 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: Then they got the Panthers on the road, they should 380 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: win that game. That's eleven wins right there. I think 381 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 3: they're gonna before they head to San Francisco for a 382 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 3: showdown with the Niners. I mean, they could be they 383 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 3: could be an eleven win team, they could be a 384 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: twelve win team. 385 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it right now. 386 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: I think it kind of feels like anything less than 387 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: ten wins is a. 388 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: Disappointment question, no question. 389 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: And that's what our expectations were at the beginning here 390 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 5: when we did our practice predications. 391 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: I think maybe did you say eleven? Maybe I had 392 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: no idea. 393 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: I know I said ten, and I think I would 394 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: be I would be disappointed in my initial Seahawks. 395 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: Projection of ten and seven. I would be disappointed. 396 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 5: And by the way, speaking of projections, Jackson, did we 397 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 5: ever replay our Mariners projections from the beginning? 398 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: We did? 399 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: We did you want the Seahawks ones? Yes, yes, you 400 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 6: want these? 401 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 7: You know what? 402 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: You love this stuff? Of course? You love this. Oh 403 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: my god, I love it and you hate it, so 404 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: we never do it. 405 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 3: So I love that almost every show does that. This 406 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 3: is from May fourteenth of this year ago. I think 407 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: they lose the Niner game and they go ten and seven. 408 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: But it's a different ten and seven versus. 409 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 5: Last year forty nine Ers with the win win the 410 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: division at their house, and the Seahawks end up as 411 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 5: the final seed in the playoffs. This is not a 412 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: twelve and five football team, so I cannot have them 413 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: winning the first last game. But with this schedule, I 414 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 5: think they could squeeze eleven out of this schedule. But 415 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 5: I'm having a loss to San Francisco. 416 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So Jackson's got him going ten and seven. I 417 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: have him going ten and seven. You have him going 418 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: eleven and six. 419 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 6: How about that? But I picked him eleven and. 420 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: Six and seven. 421 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: I feel better five and five the rest of the 422 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: way either way the overhit. 423 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: So I'm happy. 424 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 6: I'd be disappointed in ten wins at this point. 425 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: I told him, dude, they gotta go. They gotta go 426 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: three and seven the rest of the way to hit 427 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: the over and seven. Yeah, it's just candy from a baby. 428 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: Why, I hope everybody out there because we preached it 429 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: for literally two months on the air. 430 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, to go get your free money. Yeah, this one 431 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: feels big. This feels like a real kind of fork 432 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: on the road. 433 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: Type game. 434 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: This could be the difference between a ten win year 435 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: and maybe maybe a twelve win year for the this one. 436 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: This one does feel big, So you got that going on. 437 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: We asked Larry Stone last segment, is there any realistic 438 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: scenario where we can see the Mariners losing Josh Naylor. 439 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the exact question I asked. I 440 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: think I asked him, is there any realistic scenario where 441 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: you can excuse losing Josh Naylor? 442 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: Like he needs to come back? 443 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: End a story, right, You've been struggling to find a 444 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: first baseman forever. You just traded your first basement potentially 445 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: of the future, to Arizona to get the first basement 446 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: of the present. He was great for you. The fans 447 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: love him. Every now and then he's gonna do something 448 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: that's gonna piss you off, but that's fine. He's short, 449 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: he's stout, he wears earrings. I mean, what do you 450 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: not love about the guy? I tell you what I 451 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: don't love about him. I don't like the fact that 452 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: he's like five foot ten playing first base. I would 453 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: rather have a bigger, taller first baseman. I don't like that. 454 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: But his rage is amazing. 455 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: Well, it's good, but he's again, he's he's short for 456 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: a first basement. You typically want to have a taller 457 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: guy playing first base for you, but he's he's got 458 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: to come back. I mean, can you imagine what a 459 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: buzz killer would be a lose this guy? 460 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean anything would kill them, anything short 461 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: of Steve Cohen coming in and doing something ridiculous like 462 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 5: giving him a five year, one hundred and fifty million 463 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 5: dollar contract. There's no reason not to resign him, right none. 464 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: I mean there's a number that Steve Cohen can get 465 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: to that the Mariners are no one else is going 466 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: to get to. I mean, Steve Cohen can pretty much 467 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 5: pick and choose whoever he wants to play for his baseball. 468 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: See what's Alonzo's contract? Isn't he signed from multiple. 469 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: Years or is he a free Okay, well, look, then 470 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 5: go get Pete a Lonzo to replace Josh Naylor. I'd 471 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: rather have Naylor rather Naylor's super Well, first of all, 472 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: I don't care about the money. 473 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: I really don't. 474 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: Now you're telling me that Stanton's got a budget and 475 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: here's what we got to work with. 476 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, you know, look this is gonna piss me off. 477 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 4: Man. 478 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: We're introduced in six months. What is the movie? It's 479 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: it's you know what. It's a League of their own? 480 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: Remember in the movie A Llege of their Own? Did 481 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: you ever see a League of their own? Did you 482 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: see that, Jackson? 483 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: Yes, I've seen. Also many of you. 484 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: Did not see Fred Clause in A League of their Own? 485 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: When Tom Hanks is in the dugout and he's getting 486 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: pissed off, remember that, he's like shaking his hands back 487 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: and forth. You're shaking my hands back and forth. Here 488 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: here's what I want out of John stand and I 489 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: want it even now more than ever. You know, I'm 490 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: having a stroke. I want it now more than ever. 491 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 3: I want John Stanton when he wakes up to be 492 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: thinking about winning the World Series. When he goes to bed, 493 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: I want to think about winning the World Series. When 494 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: John Stanton wipes us took us after a burrito, I 495 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: want him thinking about winning the World Series. 496 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: That was graphic. 497 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: When John Stanton goes to a restaurant and orders dinner, yes, 498 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: I want him thinking about winning the World Series. When 499 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: he looks into his bull of frosted flakes and they 500 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: may make a shape in the milk. I want him 501 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: to see the World Series logo, and I want him 502 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 3: to do that now more than ever after what he 503 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: just went through. If the owner of the Mariners is 504 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: the one guy that is supposed to have the most 505 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: passion for winning than anybody, then John Stanton's desire to 506 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: win a World Series should now be at an all 507 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: time high and he should. 508 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: Have been hurt the most by what happened in Toronto. 509 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 5: So let's say we open up the season and we've 510 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 5: got Josh Naylor back. 511 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they haven't done anything else. 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, not enough. They need a bullpen and a leadoff 513 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: hitter and a right fielder. They can't go into twenty 514 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: twenty six with Victor Robless and Luke Rayley. 515 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: They need more, They need more. 516 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: I want them to field the best possible team they 517 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: can field from the start, not in July. 518 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: From the start, We're gonna break. 519 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: Mike Benton's gonna join us coming up before Cracking Canadian 520 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 3: ends at seven on ninety three three, kJ Arff. 521 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to a special Cracking game day where you 522 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: you could win a dream trip to Tokyo by donating 523 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: blood Today. For all the details, log on the blood 524 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: works nw dot org slash win. 525 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: Now back to SAFTI and. 526 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: D all right, we're back kind of busy Tuesday night 527 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: right here on ninety three three KJRFS. 528 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 7: It's all down here from here or here, kiddos, what 529 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 7: do you say? 530 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: We head up the street to Climate Pledge Arena. Joining 531 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: us right now in the radio program the Studio Analyst 532 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: of the Month and the NHL My friend, your friend, 533 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: noted Dodger fan Mike Benton with us on the. 534 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 2: Rad Congratulations Mike on the award. How are you? What's up? 535 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 7: You clowns? 536 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: Wows you show? 537 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: He Tani is over too and now he sucks again. 538 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: By the way, So hope you enjoyed. 539 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 7: The little faith I heard you earlier today. Just wait, 540 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 7: hope you enjoyed that run. Timing is everything that's right time. 541 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: This is a cracking team that's after their best start 542 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 3: after nine games in franchise history. Why what's the difference 543 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: after nine games you think versus what we've seen before. 544 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 7: I'm to give this to you in about probably thirty 545 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 7: seconds or less. It's coaching, It's structure, goaltending and starting goaltending. 546 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 7: Is there for Joey de Cord it's depth, and I 547 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 7: think right now they're surprising a few teams with how 548 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 7: they're playing and how they're how they're playing physically, and 549 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 7: they're managing ways out of winning one goal games, forcing 550 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 7: overtime and then finding the right time to strike. So 551 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 7: I mean, I called sloppy October, but they're finding a 552 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 7: way to swipe points off when a lot of teams 553 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 7: just trying to kind of figure it out as far 554 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 7: as how they want to play. 555 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: Okay, we got less than a minute left. Got to 556 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: ask you about the injuries. When is this gonna team 557 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: gonna be fully healthy? 558 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: You know, Dick, that's the million dollar question I think, 559 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 7: And honestly, I think at this point with how they play, 560 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 7: it's it's a rugged system. You play with a lot 561 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 7: of physicality where I really think, I think you kind 562 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 7: of have to get used to seeing some bodies in 563 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 7: and bodies out of this lineup. But as far as 564 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 7: the long term stuff, I think Copple Cocos do back, 565 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 7: Ryker Evans do back as well. But you know, you know, 566 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 7: I think just big Saw, how they're doing a lot 567 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 7: of things, like you know, blocking shots, they're they're hitting 568 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 7: as well. The physicality is really picking up. You know, 569 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 7: it can really lend yourself to I think you know, 570 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 7: a few more bumps and bruises here, So I think 571 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 7: for me, ultimately, the big key for success is make 572 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 7: sure you have your key guy stay healthy for much of. 573 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: The season, no doubt. Hey, listen, man, go get him. 574 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: Good luck to your Dodgers cracking and we'll talk soon, Buddy. 575 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate pal, always appreciate it. Things guys, all right, Mike 576 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: betting with. 577 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: Us face off seven point thirty. It's loud pregame show 578 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: next on ninety three to three kJ RFM. 579 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow.