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Speaker 1: One minute and fifty five seconds past three o'clock Central

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Speaker 1: daylight time, we welcome you back to a Monday edition

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Speaker 1: of the Bumper to Bumper program on a fairly sunny,

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Speaker 2: He produces the show.

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Speaker 1: He is back from a very successful trip to Iowa City.

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Speaker 1: I am the host of the program, Sultan a snark.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barrero. We will be with you

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Speaker 1: six thirty tonight, going all the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think we're pretty much full bore the whole week.

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Speaker 1: So the Thursday reality is setting in, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: After last week where we had a lot of short shows,

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Speaker 1: Adam Thielen, we think at three thirty. Is that tentative

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was told we should be good. We confirm

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Speaker 1: All right, So decent shot at the Vikings wide receiver

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Speaker 2: We spent a lot of time. This will shock you.

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Speaker 1: I was very much in the you know, don't shoot

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Speaker 1: And regarding that vow that we're going to re establish

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Speaker 4: The fan and two men and a junk truck want

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Speaker 4: our national cast contest, and the first keyword of the

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Speaker 1: Here's my unofficial totals before we get to some texts.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to write home about. I mentioned who the quarterbacks are.

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Speaker 1: Combined record of the team the Gophers have beaten. The

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Speaker 1: Vikings just look like a bad team. This is Paul

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Speaker 1: He's not been available for what do we We've played?

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Speaker 1: Connectico Water Systems hotline. Adam, thank you for the time.

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Speaker 1: As always, I hope you are doing well. Uh, let

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Speaker 1: case there had they had a lot of penalties again,

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Speaker 1: and he said, look, we've been on this constantly, the coaches,

441
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Speaker 1: We've tried everything we can to get across how the

442
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Speaker 1: significance of discipline, et cetera, and now it's kind of

443
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Speaker 1: up to the leaders. He was very challenging of his

444
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: personnel in this case, saying, I need my team leaders

445
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Speaker 1: to sort of step up. I'm wondering if that also

446
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Speaker 1: applies again. You know, you're not zero and seven, you're

447
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Speaker 1: three and four. But the last two weeks clearly have

448
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: not gone the way you wanted them to go.

449
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Speaker 2: So is this a team or on the best teams, does.

450
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Speaker 1: There have to be some internal discussion and policing that

451
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Speaker 1: really has nothing to do with the coaches, just from

452
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Speaker 1: within the locker room itself.

453
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think the best teams I've been on,

454
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Speaker 5: in the best individuals I've been around, are are so

455
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Speaker 5: hard on themselves else that there isn't really a need

456
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Speaker 5: to like have a butt chewing or motivational speeches. I

457
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Speaker 5: think everyone knows before they even walk in that building

458
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Speaker 5: to kind of review the tape of like, all right,

459
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Speaker 5: like I didn't play my best game individually, or we

460
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Speaker 5: didn't play great as a position group, or we didn't

461
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Speaker 5: play great as an offense. Right, Like there's already that

462
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Speaker 5: feeling when you come in there. Those are the best players,

463
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Speaker 5: the best teams I've been around, just already know that

464
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Speaker 5: that wasn't acceptable, that wasn't good enough, And I got

465
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Speaker 5: to find a way individually to work on the things

466
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Speaker 5: that that I'm not doing good enough to help the

467
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Speaker 5: team win.

468
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Speaker 3: And so, yes, is there is there accountability from within?

469
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Speaker 3: For sure?

470
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Speaker 5: Yes, But also it's it's kind of that individual mindset

471
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Speaker 5: of like, all right, I didn't play good enough. What

472
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Speaker 5: do I need to do in a preparation standpoint to

473
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Speaker 5: get better and to make sure that I'm performing on Sundays?

474
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Speaker 5: And it's not all about performance, it's about the process.

475
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Speaker 5: But Okay, what do I need to do in that

476
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Speaker 5: process to make sure that I'm fully prepared and can

477
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Speaker 5: feel confident going on and playing on Sundays?

478
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Speaker 1: What you've been around again for a while, right, so

479
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: what do you see and I know it's not your

480
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Speaker 1: job to coach, but you're you're You've got a good mind,

481
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Speaker 1: and you've been around the game a long time. You

482
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Speaker 1: know what a good offense looks like. So what do

483
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Speaker 1: you see right now? What do you think the struggles

484
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Speaker 1: that you guys have had most recently to try to

485
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Speaker 1: put together something consistent offensively?

486
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Speaker 2: What what do you see? What do you think needs

487
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Speaker 2: to get better?

488
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I don't want to get to coach speaking,

489
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Speaker 5: but it's like you look at our plays, like our

490
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Speaker 5: total number of offensive plays, and I think from pretty

491
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Speaker 5: much the entire season, they've been very.

492
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Speaker 3: Low as far as total number.

493
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Speaker 5: Of snaps in the game, And I think that just

494
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Speaker 5: tells you that that we're not staying on the field

495
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Speaker 5: giving us opportunities to make big plays.

496
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Speaker 3: Right. We have a lot of weapons, a lot of

497
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Speaker 3: guys that.

498
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Speaker 5: Can make plays in the run in the past game,

499
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Speaker 5: but we're not we're not giving ourselves enough opportunities to

500
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Speaker 5: do that by staying on the field. What does that

501
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 5: come down to, Probably consistency on first and second down,

502
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 5: getting positive plays, Probably not converting on third downs enough.

503
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Speaker 5: I don't know what those stats look like for our

504
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 5: team right now, but usually you can draw back to

505
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 5: those two areas and you can tell if a team

506
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 5: is if an offense is having success or not by

507
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: looking at those two areas, like you know, being efficient

508
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 5: on first and second down and converting on third down.

509
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that's something that needs to be

510
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 5: a point of emphasis, which obviously we have an offensive

511
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Speaker 5: minded head coach, which I'm sure he's diving and digging

512
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Speaker 5: into those areas and finding how we can be better.

513
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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's definitely something that we need to

514
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Speaker 5: be consistent because I think there's times that we've made

515
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Speaker 5: some of those plays and and done some really good

516
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Speaker 5: things to set us set ourselves up to score and

517
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Speaker 5: to move the ball and to stay on the field

518
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Speaker 5: keep our defense off the field. But we need to

519
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Speaker 5: be more consistent that in that approach.

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Speaker 1: And I'm feeling kind enough to join us via the

521
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Speaker 1: connect Water Systems hotline. Lots more to get to before

522
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Speaker 1: you wrap things up with him.

523
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Speaker 2: You know, the it.

524
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Speaker 1: Appears there's nothing official yet, but the head coach, your

525
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Speaker 1: head coach is certainly making it sound like there's a

526
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Speaker 1: good chance that JJ McCarthy is going to be healthy

527
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Speaker 1: enough to go when you guys play Detroit next, I

528
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Speaker 1: think on the road this coming Sunday. So let's just

529
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Speaker 1: say for the sake of this discussion, that's the way

530
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Speaker 1: it goes here. We had the stretch with Carson Wentz,

531
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Speaker 1: who's pretty battered. Is I don't have to tell you,

532
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Speaker 1: And so the decision is probably you could well be

533
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Speaker 1: going back to JJ if it is. What's your best

534
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: advice to him? Again, you're a receiver, he's a quarterback.

535
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Speaker 1: But what do you think is he's trying to just

536
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Speaker 1: sort of get settled and re established. He's played two

537
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Speaker 1: games thus far, right, two games and two seasons because

538
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 1: he couldn't play last year because of injury. What are

539
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: the most important ways you think he can just go

540
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Speaker 1: about trying to get started or restarted at the position.

541
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think just that that taking advantage

542
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Speaker 5: of every single day. You know, even as a veteran

543
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: player who's been in the league for thirteen years, it's

544
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Speaker 5: like I always tend to go back to that, like, Okay,

545
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: I need to do more throughout the week so that

546
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: on Sundays it just becomes natural or easy, or or

547
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: even just that unless you're unless you're gives you the

548
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: ability to play freer because you know that you put

549
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 5: everything into it during the week.

550
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Speaker 2: And what does that mean.

551
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Speaker 5: To break it down, it means that, hey, if you

552
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: don't feel comfortable with a certain play or or a

553
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 5: certain route, or you don't know exactly how Justin or

554
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 5: or Jordan is gonna run a particular road, go pull

555
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 5: them to the side, Go get those reps on the

556
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Speaker 5: side and and figure out a way to feel confident

557
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 5: or know exactly what they're going to do or they're thinking.

558
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: And so I think it's those things that taken real

559
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 5: advantage of those reps and taking advantage of the weekly

560
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Speaker 5: preparation and then just letting it fly on Sunday, because

561
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you put all that

562
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 5: work and all that time and all that effort into

563
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: knowing the game plan and knowing the defense. Now just

564
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: go let it fly and you can live with those results.

565
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't make those results easy if they're

566
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: not positive, but you can live with them because you

567
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 5: knew that you gave everything you had into that.

568
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Speaker 3: So that's you.

569
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Speaker 5: My advice to anyone, including myself, sometimes you got to

570
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: talk to yourself like, hey, like am I doing enough

571
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Speaker 5: throughout the week to make sure that I'm prepared and

572
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Speaker 5: ready to go on Sunday and feel really confident about

573
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Speaker 5: about what I can do and how I can help

574
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Speaker 5: the team.

575
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Speaker 2: The tough part, you know.

576
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Speaker 1: Again, you look at around the league at young quarterbacks

577
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: in McCarthy's position, and generally speaking, they need time. You know,

578
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,239
Speaker 1: every once in a while, somebody will walk in and

579
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: be unbelievable from the beginning, right. We've seen that happen occasionally,

580
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: but more times than not, ones who end up being

581
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: really good they need to go through some ups and

582
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: downs and some struggles. That the kid at New England

583
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: is a good reminder of this to me. Last year

584
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: there were people ready to give up on Drake May.

585
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: Team wasn't as good and he was struggling. This year,

586
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: he's off to a terrific start, which indicates you got

587
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to let a young quarterback make mistakes. That to me

588
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: is the tough part for JJ because you guys all

589
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: want to win, right and this team was built in

590
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot of ways free agency, to build on what

591
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: you did last what the team did last year with

592
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: the fourteen and three record, So it's it's it does

593
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Speaker 1: to me add a little bit of pressure to him

594
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: in that it's like, well, you may make some mistakes,

595
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: but try to keep him to a minimum, man, because

596
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: we're trying to get back in this race and we

597
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: want to be a factor this season. A bit unfair

598
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: maybe to a young quarterback, but kind of the way

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: it is correct.

600
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think I think they really were

601
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: very intentional with the way that they built this team

602
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: to be a team around him, built around him. Give him,

603
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: give him a great offensive line, give him great weapons,

604
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: give him a great defense. And so I think at

605
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's it's not that he

606
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 5: should feel the more feel any more pressure. It should

607
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: almost be opposite. It should almost be like everyone else

608
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: around him should feel more pressure to do your job

609
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: and to be the person that they brought you here

610
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 5: or drafted you or signed you to be right, because

611
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, we need to be

612
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: better around him to take some of that pressure off him.

613
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 5: That's what good teams do. They they find a way

614
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: to be the best players, find a way to be

615
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: the best players, and you know, to be able to

616
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Speaker 5: take some pressure off some of the younger guys or

617
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Speaker 5: guys with less experience.

618
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day.

619
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Speaker 5: Everyone needs those experiences or needs that experience, They need

620
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Speaker 5: those opportunities, uh to be able to understand where they

621
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Speaker 5: need to get better at where they need to focus on.

622
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Speaker 5: And I think he really felt that and took advantage

623
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Speaker 5: of that those first couple of weeks and was able

624
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Speaker 5: to obviously.

625
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Speaker 3: Use this last.

626
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Speaker 5: Few weeks of being on the sideline to to really

627
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Speaker 5: focus on, Okay, what what do I need to get

628
00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: better at?

629
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Speaker 3: What do I need to focus on?

630
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Speaker 5: And you've seen that, I mean, his ability just to

631
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 5: focus on those things has been really impressive, and you

632
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: can tell that he's just been trying to get better

633
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 5: and better and better every week and taking advantage of

634
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: the time that he's been, you know, a little injured

635
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: and not been able to play to really just focus

636
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: on how can I get better and work on those

637
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: things while I have some time. Usually don't get that.

638
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 5: Usually it's you're in the fire week in, week out,

639
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 5: and you're kind of learning.

640
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: Through the fire.

641
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: But he's had an opportunity to take advantage of just

642
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: some time to be able.

643
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: To focus on the little things.

644
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Speaker 1: If the change is made and this, you know, again,

645
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: who knows how the season plays out, Maybe Carson plays

646
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: again for some reason.

647
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: But I'm wondering.

648
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's had this stretch where you guys turned

649
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: to him as the backup, a guy who was brought

650
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: in very late, right right before the start of the season.

651
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: You knew him, I think a little bit. We talked

652
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: about this, But what did you have you.

653
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Learned anything about Carson Wentz being a teammate of his

654
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: now and around him as much as you have him

655
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: in a starter's role that maybe you didn't know or

656
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: appreciate before you spend this spent this much time around him.

657
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everyone can appreciate, you know, his his toughness,

658
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: his attitude, his mindset, especially through the last few weeks.

659
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: There's some tough circumstances.

660
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you can appreciate that a guy

661
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: who just plays gives everything they have on the line

662
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: when you know they.

663
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Could have tapped out and whatever.

664
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, maybe say that I can't, I'm not

665
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: I'm not not healthy enough.

666
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: To play or whatever.

667
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: You know, it's easy to tap out in those situations.

668
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: But he didn't.

669
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: You know, he thought through it. He battled, He showed

670
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 5: that that you know, it's he's got the heart he's

671
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: got the attitude to be able to help this team

672
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: and do what it takes even though he's not maybe

673
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: necessary a feeling at his best. So you can always

674
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: appreciate that as a player when guys kind of fight

675
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: through tough times and give everything they got and play

676
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: it at a really high level at time. So just

677
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: definitely appreciation for his toughness and his mentality. And I

678
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 5: think it was something great to for any young guy

679
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: to learn from just that that that's what it takes.

680
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: In this league. You know, you look at some.

681
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 5: Of the top players in this league, top quarterback through

682
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 5: some some injuries, they're tough. They find a way to

683
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: even though they're not feeling their best. But to be

684
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 5: at the great example for some of the young guys

685
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: to learn from.

686
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: Last item going back really to the beginning here, So

687
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: when how are you when it comes to losing a game?

688
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: How are you around the family? Is it are you

689
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: one of those players who has to sort of like

690
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: everybody understands, you're going to isolate yourself. Is it the

691
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: exact opposite, You're not allowed to isolate yourself that you

692
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: don't even want to.

693
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: What's Adam?

694
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: How does Adam feeling handle losing around his family.

695
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: Well, thankfully I got a great wife who holds me accountable.

696
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: So I don't think you can.

697
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 5: Allow me to isolate myself. I think she'd check my button,

698
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: make sure that I spent be a good dad, right, So,

699
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: uh yeah, you know, obviously, first couple of hours after

700
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: the game, you're pretty frustrated. You know, you're you're kind.

701
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: Of sulking a little bit.

702
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: And then and then you realize quickly that life is

703
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 5: bigger than just football.

704
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: As much as we put into this.

705
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 5: Game and love this game and and have you know,

706
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: spend a lot of our lives playing this game. Uh,

707
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I'm not on this

708
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: earth to be a football player. I'm on this earth

709
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: for much greater things than that, you know, to be

710
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 5: a great dad, to be a great husband, Uh, to

711
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: be a great follower Christ. So just really kind of,

712
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 5: you know, focus on that for a couple of days,

713
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: obviously having the weekend off, and just to be able

714
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 5: to really focus on that and then come back refresh,

715
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: re energize when you when you are in that building

716
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 5: to give everything you got. It was great to be

717
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 5: able to be back on the grass today it's never

718
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: easy losing a game or a couple of games in

719
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 5: a row, and sometimes it just takes you just to

720
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: be able to get back on the grass to kind

721
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 5: of get.

722
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: Some of those bots out of your head. Uh.

723
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: And that was kind of I approach this weekend and

724
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 5: definitely again just be back out there and refocus on

725
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: a new a new opponent.

726
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Are you a guy who watches a lot of other games,

727
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: like when you watch Sunday night, you know the game

728
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: last night? You are you constantly watching? Or you a

729
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: guy don't need to watch all that much since you play?

730
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: Oh no, I love I love watching football. In fact,

731
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 5: I think a lot of times when you start to

732
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: watch more football, you start to feel a little bit

733
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: better about, you know, some of the losses because you

734
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 5: start to realize that it's not easy.

735
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: You know.

736
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: You see these teams that you think are unbeatable, they

737
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 5: get beat and the teams that you think can't win,

738
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 5: they win. And so you just start to realize that

739
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: it's a one Every week is a new week, Every

740
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: week is a one game season.

741
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: And when you the.

742
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 5: More football you watch, you start to realize, like, this

743
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 5: is a very competitive league and it doesn't matter if

744
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 5: you're zero to seven or if you're seven to oh,

745
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 5: like it's it's it's hard to win games in this

746
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: league and anyone can win on any given Sunday. So

747
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: that's what makes this game so great and so frustrating

748
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: at the same time, because you feel like on paper

749
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: sometimes that that you're the better team, but it doesn't matter.

750
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: You got to go out there and prove it, and

751
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: you got to find.

752
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: A way to win no matter what. And there's no

753
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 3: easy wins in this league.

754
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 5: When you do, you take advantage of them and you

755
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 5: and you refocus. But but yeah, I think that's why

756
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: we play this game. That's why we love it so much,

757
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: and that's why fans are so invested and and why

758
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 5: we get uh paid paid a good good amount of

759
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: money to play this game because people love it and

760
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: it's it's a great game. So uh yeah, I enjoy

761
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: watching watching football when I when I have the opportunities too,

762
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: and you gotta.

763
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: And you got to prove it this week against another

764
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: good team. That's the other thing, right, It's not like

765
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: you walking back in Well, I know you guys don't

766
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: think in terms of gimmis, but obviously the Lions are legit,

767
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: you know that as as as good as anybody you're

768
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: playing them. There, So nothing easy about the challenge this week.

769
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: No, definitely not.

770
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 5: And and I think you know, going into this little

771
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: stretch we got we knew this is a this is

772
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: a big stretch coming up some really good football teams,

773
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 5: obviously starting on against Detroit, who's one of the best

774
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: teams in the league, if not the best team in

775
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: the league. So great challenge for us. Great defense that

776
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: have just guys that are physical, fast, great just football players.

777
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: I think when you look at tape sometimes you either say, Okay,

778
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 5: this guy's or this this defense is really physical.

779
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: Or this this team.

780
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 5: Flies around and they play really well together, or or man,

781
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: they got guys in the back end that can cover.

782
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: I think when you look at Detroit, it's like all

783
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: the above, Like they do everything really well. They play

784
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: really physical, they they're fast, they fly around, they play

785
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: really well together. So yeah, there's no there's no weaknesses

786
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: in that defense or really in that team. So which

787
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 5: is a great challenge for us. You know, if you

788
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 5: got to be at your best and you got to

789
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: play your best to win this week, and that's a

790
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: great challenge for us. And we'll see what kind of

791
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: resolved and what kind of grit this team has. And

792
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: that's exciting to see.

793
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Good luck on the Sunday. Good conversation. As always, we

794
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Adam will talk next week. All right,

795
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: thanks Doc, Adam Feeling Vikings wide receiver kind enough to

796
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: join us. Don't forget Johnny Athletic. We'll join at five

797
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: point thirty. He'll give us the latest steam on the

798
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards injury, the Wolves starts this season.

799
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: The lighting lighting, don't forget about the trees. Trees are

800
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: back area. That's big. That's that's actually interesting more than

801
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: the lighting, as it turns out.

802
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: Should I feel bad that you mentioned this has not

803
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 4: been the best weekend in Minnesota sports history. That as

804
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: we were driving to the game yesterday, the family and

805
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 4: I went to the game last night.

806
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: Oh good for us.

807
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: I thought it wouldn't it be something if like Edward's

808
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: got hurt tonight boom?

809
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: And there it was four.

810
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: Minutes in hits a three nice little put back and

811
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: then Bones Highland is in and I'm standing against Bones Island.

812
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Nothing.

813
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I just wasn't expected to see him before the first

814
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: media is that his real name, by the way, or

815
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: a nickname. I don't know what we're gonna nickname. We're

816
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: gonna learn it. But it is amazing nicknames in the league.

817
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: I know it is amazing. And this is gonna sound

818
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, no kidding. But ant never misses games like

819
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: he's old school that way. He doesn't do load management.

820
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: It's amazing the energy that that building pulls from him,

821
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: no question, just with how he plays. And when he's

822
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: not there, you're like, huh, this is a different team

823
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: is on Anthony Edwards because we never have to see it.

824
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: He's always out there. But anyway, and now your guy

825
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: doesn't doing him have a busted nose?

826
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that. So it's the Bones Highland show,

827
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: Bones Hiland show for a while.

828
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: Conley in and out the Vincenzo I, I like, I'm

829
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: sticking with my position. I don't like him handling the

830
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: ball that much. Sorry, what I've seen has not been helpful. Now,

831
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: I one would assume he has to become more of

832
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: a score right because with Edward's out right, you need

833
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: somebody to sort of well, you're not going to beat Edwards,

834
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: but he's trying to emulate some of that or take

835
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: some of the offensive press.

836
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Sure, off, we'll have to see on.

837
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: That.

838
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: And it's Denver tonight, right it is? Yes, did you.

839
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: See the the Joker double double number?

840
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: Did I see that?

841
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: Over the course of his regular season, his career regular

842
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: season games, Joker has one hundred and sixty six triple doubles.

843
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: That's possible. But can I stop you?

844
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mikeen's quarterback Carson Wentz will undergo surgery on his

845
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: left shoulder and miss the rest of the five season,

846
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: sources tell the Insiders Tom Pelsero Wentz got it out

847
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: as long as he could, but he was in severe

848
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: pain Thursday night in La.

849
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: Now we'll get the shoulder fixed.

850
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: So it's got to be jj McCarthy Sunday or it's

851
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: Brownstone's time.

852
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: Well, unless we pick up another veteran.

853
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 4: Well let's do that again, as opposed to just giving

854
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: it to the guy who could change everything, Max Brosmer, Guys,

855
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: let's just grab another guy. Is Sam Holli is still available.

856
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's in the league. No I know, but anyway,

857
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: he did look like he was in a lot of pain. Yeah,

858
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 4: So I mean go ahead and keep playing and then

859
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: hurt it.

860
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: So badly.

861
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: You're going to need surgery. I said Friday that I

862
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: did absolutely think it was cruel to continue to play him.

863
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: And I I wasn't saying, like you are that you

864
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: bring Brosemer in, they're gonna come back from three touchdowns down.

865
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: All I was.

866
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Saying is, you bring him in, and here's what you

867
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: say to the kid. Hand off some safe passes.

868
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: If you see something interesting, go ahead. It's all right.

869
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: But we're not asking you.

870
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: You know that that that that that isn't even a

871
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: fair position to put any quarterback in. But I actually

872
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: thought there was a lack of humanity shown by head coach,

873
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: who's own for his humanity. I know that's the part

874
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: for me. It wasn't for me. He's playing so badly

875
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: that you have to play somebody else. My thought was

876
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: the game's over, this game's done. You're not gonna win

877
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: the game. Just get out of dodge. And you know,

878
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I was left with the conclusion that they must not.

879
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: They must have thought he was milking his the pain,

880
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: because he was. Every time he went down. It was terrible.

881
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Windsying was awful, right, it's terrible, So how do you

882
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: not pull him?

883
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: To this day?

884
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that's been explained in a way that

885
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: makes any sense to me.

886
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: So and you know me, I am a big Kirk

887
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: Herbstreet guy.

888
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: Yes, when he went on his soapbox about I don't

889
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: know if you heard this or talked about it. I mean,

890
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: Wentz just crying on the bench right they cut to him.

891
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: He's got his head, he's looking to the sky, there's

892
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 4: tears in his eyes, and Herbstreet is basically going Jimmy Dugan,

893
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: there's no crying in baseball on him and saying you

894
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: got him tough for your guys. And I wanted to go, Kirk,

895
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 4: are you watching the game? He's getting killed every single play.

896
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 4: Something is going on with him. No one is questioning

897
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: his toughness or.

898
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: Ability to lead. But you heard what the.

899
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: Coach after the game said, like, well he wasn't going

900
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: to get any further. Somebody said, was it the head coach?

901
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: May have been because I think he was asked, why

902
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: do you keep him in? Well, you know it's not

903
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: it's it's it's all about managing the pain. And I'm thinking, well,

904
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: whatever it was, you have a the idea that well,

905
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: he's not going to pull himself. He's not he's one

906
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: of those players who isn't going to do that. Of course,

907
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you're the head coach, right, so you you have a

908
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: right to say at some point now you want him

909
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: to do it because you think Brosmer is going to

910
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: come in and go twelve for.

911
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: Twelve, which maybe he will at some point. He might.

912
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: We'll never find out. For me, it was just it

913
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: was just humanity. It was mercy, I know it, like you,

914
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: just this game's over. You're not going to win even

915
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the interception he threw. They're already down twenty one at

916
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: that but the game is over, so just be safe.

917
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Throw some short stuff which in the short amount of

918
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: time broke from his That's what he did.

919
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: He just threw some short stuff. Stay out of trouble.

920
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: Don't get your head knocked off, because we don't need

921
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: to lose another quarterback or another bad shoulder to another

922
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: bad shoulder. So yeah, it's that is interesting. So now,

923
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: not that there was any real question any longer, because

924
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: it was very clear that you know, the train was

925
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: leaving the station with AJ.

926
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Here's my question, and this might perk you up.

927
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: I'll believe JJ McCarthy is healthy enough to play when

928
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: I see him in a game for.

929
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: More than five plays in a row. I'm serious. I mean,

930
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: he says, well, there's this extra time.

931
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: We're not that many days removed from being told it's

932
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: still not there. So again we're assuming because he has

933
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: to be the guy. Now allegedly you're back to this

934
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: is the guy we built this whole thing around. You

935
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: just heard Adam feel and say that you know he's

936
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: going to be fine physically, But I don't think there's

937
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: any guarantee on that at all. So you your Brosemer

938
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Brownstone dream might well still become a reality.

939
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: Who's to say?

940
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

941
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: And I know we have to break on Thursday. For

942
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 4: the last month, I've been in Brosemur Brownstone's because I'm

943
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: a Brosmer Brownstone's owner.

944
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: But on Thursday it wasn't because of that.

945
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: It was because I'm watching Carson and going Every single

946
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: time he's hitting the turf or hitting the deck or

947
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: going back, he's chucking his helmet. Yes, because he's in

948
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: so much pain. Well do you think they just did

949
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: what are we doing? Thought he was being a diva?

950
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: What other explanation is there that you didn't pull them

951
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: in all?

952
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: Seriously, I mean the only thing I always hear that

953
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: the medical staff of all these teams make decisions, and

954
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: it's not so. Is it that the medical staff said

955
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: he's fine and if he wants to go back out there,

956
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: he ken.

957
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: You're the head coach, you can make any decisions, so

958
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: you're right.

959
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, is that the information that they're getting right,

960
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: or should the medical staff have said this is untenable?

961
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: We need to hit this guy down. That's I mean,

962
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: everybody looks. It looks horrible. On Thursday night coming up

963
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: to me with Graze. Could we go get Flacco? Did

964
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 4: you see him kind of try to scramble a little

965
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: bit last night and move his feet or yesterday I

966
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: did watch a little bit of that.

967
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we could. I don't know.

968
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: We should pause because we got to stay ahead for Lever. Yeah,

969
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: we're very late. It's not my fault. It's breaking news.

970
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: We had to address it. We did