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Speaker 2: Real quick, I thought this was an interesting text regarding Springsteen.

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Speaker 2: This is Marty and Richfield, He writes, Dan, I'm a

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Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting from this is what he does.

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Speaker 2: He meets moments by writing songs and telling stories in

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Speaker 2: and that's admirable. I think Breen made the most important

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Speaker 4: You don't have to like him. You don't even have

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Speaker 2: He stands for politically, But to be surprised, it's the

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Speaker 2: Just be honest about it, and we can all get

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Speaker 4: Because there's just there just isn't any consistency. Just as

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Speaker 4: their minds, they stop being so political. It's like, well though,

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't necessarily be dismissed on that basis. If you

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Speaker 3: But go ahead. I have so many things to say

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Speaker 4: No, it's up to you. No, it's okay. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: worth the cheap shot the Minnesota vikings. What a morning

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Speaker 4: it was today, What a month we had this morning.

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Speaker 4: Today was one of those days where you have to

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna interrupt you. I made the mistake of looking

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Speaker 3: I have to. This is listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Still not a word about the kid who exposed more

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Speaker 2: Somali fraud in two weeks in all, local media has

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Speaker 3: You can't be that what's the word for it, tone deaf.

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Speaker 4: The individuals who exposed and proved in court, not in

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Speaker 2: The fraud that took place on a number of fronts,

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Speaker 3: They didn't do it with a series of viral videos.

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Speaker 2: They did it systematically, precisely in courtrooms. Brought those individuals

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Speaker 4: The statements today have been off the charts, so much

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: I have to guarding consensus. As always. The whole world

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Speaker 2: That's the University of Minnesota from the clem Askins days.

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Speaker 2: We still need to hang the band. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: We've savaged them, had endless guests on about it, talked

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Speaker 2: How is it guarding consensus to be more interested in

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Speaker 2: In sort of at the ending of it, laying out

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Speaker 2: the end of planes, trains, and automobiles.

437
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Speaker 4: It's just have you seen it? No, but you mentioned effective.

438
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: I've also heard how affected they all still are about

439
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 4: that he's not here. Yeah, that he's not here, Bill Murray,

440
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: Steve Martin, obviously, Catherine O'Hara, and many others. That it's

441
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 4: still all these years later. Yeah, hurts no question about it.

442
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: Lavelle E Neal the third is with us, So if

443
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Speaker 2: you'll pot him up for me, Guardsy, we will start

444
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: our conversation with him and try to cover a lot

445
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Speaker 2: of ground with you, lovel We've talked a lot of

446
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: about the Vikings. We had Ben Gestling and studio, so

447
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: we'll get to the Vikings eventually. The way they made

448
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: news today and really they've kind of, I think taken

449
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: a lot of the oxygen away from the Twins move

450
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: because of their the Vikings obviously, and the Twins right

451
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: now are sort of just barely existing to the general

452
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: sporting public. But you covered baseball for a long time,

453
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people there, So I'll just

454
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: ask you flat out, how gobsmacked were you when they

455
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: made it official and announced that A Mute announced a

456
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: mutual parting of the ways with Derek Falvey earlier today.

457
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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me on. First of all, Yeah,

458
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: I was I was worn last night that they were

459
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Speaker 5: going to have some sort of announcement and I said, well,

460
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: it's just supposed to be like day changing news and

461
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 5: the reply was no, but it's something could be interested in.

462
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 5: And that's that left me wonder what the heck could

463
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 5: it be? And I was starting to think in terms of, Okay,

464
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 5: they've got a spot in the forty men roster open,

465
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 5: maybe they're making a player acquisition that could be interesting.

466
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Speaker 5: I don't know, I had no idea that this was

467
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Speaker 5: going to be the move that they were going to announce,

468
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Speaker 5: And yeah, I think gobsmack was a good way to

469
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Speaker 5: describe my reaction when I found it out. But you know,

470
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: once it was explained to me, it kind of things

471
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Speaker 5: like they were headed down this path here. It's been

472
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Speaker 5: a crazy last several months for Twins and Twins fans,

473
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: I mean, employees were there kind of a little frazzled

474
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 5: by stuff that's been going on, with the team being

475
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: pulled off the market and the announcement of the limited partners,

476
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Speaker 5: and then the limited partners not being revealed until December,

477
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 5: so everybody was like, what the hell is that all about?

478
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 5: And then you know, learning that they're not going to

479
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 5: put money directly into the team, at least not right away.

480
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: The thing with Falve really dates back to when Tom

481
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 5: Pollett was announced as taken over as the executive chair

482
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: from Joe poll At. Tom you know, strong belief in well,

483
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 5: he his belief is that the jobs of baseball operations

484
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 5: and business operations should be separated and now on one

485
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 5: on one person's plate. He believes that the job calls

486
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 5: for one attention it requires someone who's adept in HR

487
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 5: and finance, corporate sales, that side of the gig. You

488
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 5: know that. I don't know if that was really a

489
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: Vally's Talvi's vally. So I was surprised when Salvi was

490
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: given us this title, and I think just thinking that

491
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 5: he was a baseball guy, and it is in the end,

492
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 5: he has a baseball guy, he's not much of a

493
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 5: business guy. And then Tom Pollett felt the job required

494
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 5: someone with that expertise in that era. Now, someone asked

495
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: in the press conference, well why do he just put

496
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Speaker 5: Falali back as director of Baseball Operations. Well, it sounds

497
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 5: like they were having a conversation about exactly what the

498
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: roll would in TAIL and the morning he talked, I

499
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 5: think they realized that like the vision for like the

500
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 5: near future may not be aligned, and I think that

501
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 5: led them down a path here where they decided to

502
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 5: mutually part ways. It was not Derrick Fouley, Quintin or

503
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 5: him necessarily gett fired, with them agreeing that now would

504
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: be a good time probably to walk away. The timing

505
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: is weird, but once again, I think you go back

506
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 5: to when Tom was put in charge and he's been

507
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: looking at things and making decisions. They started walking on

508
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: that path ever since the day he was announced. So yeah,

509
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 5: so vow he's gonna move on. You know, he's been

510
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: there nine years, he's made a chunk of change, so

511
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: it's not like he's he's not leaving broke, you know.

512
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: So it's easy for him to say, you know, we're

513
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: not we're not on the same page here, and I'm

514
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 5: not afraid to admit that. And I know problems, you know,

515
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 5: parting ways allowing you to find someone that's more suited

516
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 5: to the role. So that's kind of how it went down.

517
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you say makes a lot of sense.

518
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: I never understood the merging, but assumed that for some

519
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: reason the twins wanted to do it that way. And

520
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: I guess if your fallaby, you're not going to turn down.

521
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: I assume would be more money. It's certainly more responsibility

522
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: as well. The timing for me, even if we've had this,

523
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, changing the passing of the baton for one

524
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: poll ad to yet another is to me utterly dysfunctional.

525
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: There's no to me good explanation for coming to this

526
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: at the time where we two weeks away from from

527
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: spring training. I don't know, but no one's gonna convince

528
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: me that a well run organization decides to make this

529
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: move right now two weeks before.

530
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: That part of it, to me, cannot be justified.

531
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 5: Now it's gonna I mean, it's definitely hard to But

532
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 5: you know when they when they decided to when the

533
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: family decided to make the move from Joe to Tom,

534
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 5: you know, it started the ball rolling on how Tom

535
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: wants to do things his way.

536
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Why can let me let me stop you again? Why

537
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: why can't they be gone?

538
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 6: Man?

539
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: Honestly, give somebody else a chance, and they may screw

540
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: it up even more, but give somebody else a chance

541
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: to show their vision. Why would we I have no

542
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: more faith in this poll Ad.

543
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: Than any of the others.

544
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, is what Sue Anna wrote today, true,

545
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: were you in on this?

546
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

547
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: Let me say I can find.

548
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: The uh the comment here that got my attention.

549
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell me.

550
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: Oh here, you got to remind me because I've been

551
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 5: writing Nolympic stuff all day.

552
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: Tom pole Ad.

553
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Has yet to say anything that would inspire conference in

554
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: a discerning fan. During a Zoom News conference on January thirty,

555
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: he asked that we stop obsessing over payroll size.

556
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: He doesn't get he doesn't He can think anything he.

557
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: Wants, but he doesn't get to decide what people obsess over.

558
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: And how can you with a straight face be surprised

559
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: that in miss town there might be a little obsession

560
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: over payroll size. When the pole ads are obsessed with

561
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: payroll size.

562
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: I hear to saying, man, and I think it would

563
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 5: serve him better going forward, just not even to mouth

564
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: the words payroll. You know, at this point it's going

565
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: to be actions over his words. You know, people have

566
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 5: heard the words over the last well. I mean, this

567
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: is nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninety eight, and that's when,

568
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: you know, I watched the payroll get shrunk and to

569
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: rock bottom levels. So I don't think that it serves

570
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 5: the pull ads well to having any conversations about or

571
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: making any It's about how people are going to obsess

572
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: or not obsessed, or talk about payroll because it's a thing.

573
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 5: It's a thing in baseball more so than any other sport.

574
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: And that's the thing here because historically the poets have

575
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: not spent a lot of money, and they did, they tried,

576
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: you know, they went to Josh Dollinson route, the Colors

577
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 5: career route, and those guys end up getting out of

578
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: both those contracts. So I just I just want to

579
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: warn you man, I think the Levell the Levell theory

580
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: is in play here. That if if, if there's you know,

581
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: four years down the road, five years down the road,

582
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: once Baseball has this economic house in order, which they

583
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: believe they will, I believe when I see it. But

584
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 5: I just think, you know, franchise value is going up

585
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: with a new TV deal and maybe a salary cap,

586
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: it's going to make the Twins more attractive, will be

587
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 5: sold and for a higher number than the one point

588
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 5: seven billion they're they're evaluated right now. That's that's my

589
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 5: theory that they will not be owning this team within

590
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 5: five years.

591
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: What I wanted to.

592
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Catch out, what do we know about the new I

593
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: guess you call him, uh, the guy in charge of

594
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: the baseball side of the operation.

595
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: Jeremy's all yeah, you know, when they hired him away

596
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 5: from the Dodgers years ago, people were telling me he's

597
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: going to be a future general manager. Uh, they saw

598
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: that in him, you know, six seven years ago. I

599
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: can't remember how long Jeremy's being I think it's been

600
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: about seven years. They said they said that stuff about

601
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: him when the Wins first hired him, and you know,

602
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: he's cut a seat teeth in different roles and within

603
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 5: an organization. Uh, we butt it heads one time because

604
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: I whenever I would see a minor leaguer like leave

605
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: a game, I'd start wondering if he got injured, and

606
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: I starting to call Jeremy about, Okay, what happened to

607
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: this guy. He would get mad at me and yell

608
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: at me because I have to tell you this right now.

609
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: And so we didn't get off to the best start

610
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: relationship wise, But we're cool now. Jeremy's personality wise, he's

611
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: he's mellowed out a little bit. He's more pleasant to

612
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: talk to. You're gonna hear more cliches from him than

613
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: you're gonna you're gonna hear from Derek. Fowley's sure, well,

614
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: Fabi fably is a rather equationous guy. Man. He just

615
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: he hears us about two hundred words to not really tell

616
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: you much. Uh, Jeremy may say it is like fifty.

617
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 5: So he's just a little more understated than Derek. So,

618
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 5: but I don't know, I know he's had some he's

619
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: got experience in helping with trade negotiations and contract signings

620
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: and free agent acquisitions. But now I don't know. You know,

621
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 5: he's got of pria he's going to handle like the

622
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: big ones now, and I don't know. That's something we

623
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 5: got to see how he performs. So I don't know

624
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: what his I don't thin if he has what super

625
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: power he has that makes him a wiz of transactions.

626
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if he was the one

627
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: behind trading at half the year of Nos and Cruise

628
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: for Joe Ryan or not. You know, but we're gonna

629
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: find out now for sure.

630
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Here's what I wanna believe. But I also want the

631
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: truth from you. So even if what I want to

632
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: believe is false, you can tell me that I can

633
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: take it. What I deep down want to believe is

634
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: that part of what happened here is that even Derek

635
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Falvey got tired of towing the company line for the

636
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: pole Ads, and that even he said, wait a minute, now,

637
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: I can't do that too. We can't in good conscience

638
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: do that as well. Is there any chance that that

639
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: played any role on these two sides falling apart from.

640
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 5: Each other, You definitely could draw you get definitely could

641
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: connect the dots and wonder why, especially going back to

642
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: after twenty twenty three when they beat the Toronto Blue

643
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: Jays in the first run in the playoffs to end

644
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: the playoffs losing streak, and they decide to go the

645
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: other way with the payroll right size the payroll with

646
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: I believe Joe poleads unforgettable description of what they're doing

647
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: at that time. Definitely wasn't Salve's idea to trade away

648
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: ten players at the deadline for eleven feet out Randy Dobneck.

649
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: That wasn't his. That wasn't his out. That wasn't his idea.

650
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 5: I was told that was you know, that was coming

651
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: from upstairs. I think I think Byron Rocco was more

652
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: of a family decision than the Gerald managers decision. Of

653
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 5: Aalvi decision as well, So you could tell you can

654
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: argue that the last couple of years have been pretty

655
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: tough in terms of what Salve had to work with

656
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: from a parol standpoint and what players he could acquire.

657
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 5: He has a hell of a relationship with Rocco, so

658
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 5: I was really surprised that Salve uh had to let

659
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 5: him go. But once again, I'm pretty sure, I came

660
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: from above. So yeah, if you add that all up,

661
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 5: he may have been a little frustrated, but you know,

662
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: maybe he was respectful still of the opportunity to pull

663
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: edge gave him and everything, and that's why you know,

664
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 5: this was more amicable than than heat it than a

665
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: heated breakup. But yeah, you can you can, actually you can,

666
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 5: you can. You can add up all the instances here

667
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 5: and arrive at that conclusion for sure.

668
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question guards he asked me

669
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: during the top five and five of these two moves,

670
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: the Vikings firing their general manager, or the Twins and

671
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Folly deciding it's time we just go our separate ways,

672
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: which surprised.

673
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 5: You more, fab surprise me more. I think with Quasy,

674
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 5: you know there was rumlings you know about there's some

675
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: rummans with Quazy, and the track record with Quazy too

676
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: was his drafting hasn't been great. He's had to compensate

677
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: that with free agent signings, and some of his free

678
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 5: agent signings have not been great as well. So this

679
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: goes back to Ulis. I can't remember his first name. Davenport.

680
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 5: The defensive lineman that they signed.

681
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: Is that Marcus Marcus Davenport. I'll double Davenport.

682
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: He immediately got hurt, he barely played, and I know

683
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: the coaches staff wasn't acting with that addition, so h

684
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: I just think there were some things that he did

685
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: that was building up toward this. I you know, I

686
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 5: do that annual look ahead the twenty twenty sixth Colm,

687
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: when I picked like a team, a player, and an

688
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 5: executive to watch in twenty twenty six, and I picked

689
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: Quazy And I was a little nervous about it because

690
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: I went, I said, Okay, what if I write this

691
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: and then he gets fired, Well, they won't fire no,

692
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: I said, Well, I want to write Crazy. That's why

693
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: I wanted to write about Quazy. I said, uh that

694
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 5: this was like early December, and I said, but what

695
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: if I write it and he gets fired, Well, they

696
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't fire him to after uh after the playoffs.

697
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 5: And I said, okay, so I'll go ahead and write

698
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: Crazy as the guy to watch, because I said he

699
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 5: needed to have a year. You needed to have a

700
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 5: good offseason in which he hit some free agents and

701
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: actually draft some guys. And that said, you hit on Addison,

702
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 5: the guard he signed looks like a keeper as well.

703
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: You know, it hasn't been totally. It has been totally

704
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 5: you know Barren, but from his first draft, so I

705
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: think there there there were some demerits under Quasy's name

706
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: that you know, that were weighed them down a little bit.

707
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm not that as surprised at Crazy

708
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: being fired than I was with Save.

709
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I answered it pretty much the same way, because

710
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: I don't know that I expected the Quzy news because

711
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: I thought maybe we were past the window that where

712
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: they do their vetting and that they had decided, all right,

713
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna put them on double secret probation and live

714
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: for another year. Where it gets tricky to me on

715
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: because look, a Quasy's draft record leaves him vulnerable. But

716
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: I I firmly believe, and I'm curious to get your

717
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: view on this, if you want to evaluate the way

718
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: this team has progressed at quarterback. I don't think that's

719
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: a at all a Quasy operation.

720
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: I think on all of those.

721
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: Decisions he has often deferred to what the quarterback whisperer

722
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: prefers because he feels like, well, that's the guy, that's

723
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: his his area of experts. So that's where I don't

724
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: think Koc can be let off the hook entirely because

725
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: if a quarterbacks the most important position on a team,

726
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: he's as responsible. I think his fingerprints are all over this,

727
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: even more than Quazis are.

728
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: What do you think.

729
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 5: I think it's at least a collaborative effort effort between

730
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: Quaz and Koc, if not more Koc than Quazy, because

731
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: when you're dealing with the most important position in sports,

732
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: you've got to have buy it from the head coach

733
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: or at least offensive play college, which is which is

734
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: Koc in both instances. So he had to be for

735
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: this plan too, to switch to switch over to Jajom

736
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 5: McCarthy and see how that would go. And that ended

737
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: up being a mistake. The kid that's had basically a

738
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: year and a half without meaningful development, one because of

739
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: knee injury, and this year because of what three or

740
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: four different instances we had, he was out of the lineup.

741
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: You know, no one can see that coming. You know,

742
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: no one's in his body, know what he knows, and

743
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 5: knows what he's feeling and those he's going through. But

744
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 5: it's happened. And so the plan he put together uh

745
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 5: to turn the keys over the JJ did not work,

746
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: and both of them have to take the blame for that.

747
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: And you know Koc's great statement about UH quarterbacks don't

748
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: feel organizations as much as organizations fell quarterbacks, Well, they

749
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 5: have felled JJ, but not putting putting the right structure

750
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 5: around him. So I agree with doing that. I can't

751
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: I can't put. I can't put because if you go

752
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: back to that draft, I had no problems with taking

753
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy. I was happy. I like the missig. He's

754
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: got talent. But I think I think they they were

755
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: fooling themselves thinking that even though he was he was

756
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: ready for prime time after not being able to play

757
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: or practice that rookie year. You know, so, and they're

758
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: in the box down with them. Do you are you

759
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: are you worried that it's year three? You've got to

760
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: start him next year? I think so. I think they

761
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 5: got I think they need to bring in a good quarterback.

762
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: And if the quarterback takes off, then you keep Jjo

763
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 5: on the bench. And if not, Jjo have a year

764
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 5: to try to get us act together and then you're

765
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 5: four would be a big year for him. But yeah,

766
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 5: just going back to your original statement, Yeah, this is

767
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: on KOC as much as is on.

768
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: We'll finish with this.

769
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Russo, who joined us yesterday, is is heading across the

770
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: pond to cover the Winter Olympics.

771
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: And what is it Cortina? And what are the two locations? Milan?

772
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Exactly the well stated And you've covered an Olympics or two.

773
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: So what what's your best Olympic travel advice that you

774
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: think might be useful to Russo? Because he's not leaving

775
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: until Monday, so I'm sure he's either listening now or

776
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: he'll listen via podcast eventually. He's always looking for good advice,

777
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: and you're kind of a world travelers. What's your best

778
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: advice for him? It can be underwear related, but doesn't

779
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: have to be. It could be related to other things

780
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: as well well.

781
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 5: The underwear thing is important, I think because especially I

782
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: don't know if he's a I don't know if he's

783
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 5: a trinket or a memorabilia guy. He's going to bring

784
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: back some stuff from there. You're gonna get a swag

785
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 5: bag because I got one in Beijing. You just gotta

786
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 5: make sure you have room to carry out that stuff. Now,

787
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 5: the underword thing allows you to save space in your luggage.

788
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: The only problem with him is that my underwear is

789
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 5: probably larger than his. So when I lost my got

790
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: rid of my underwear, I had more space.

791
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: In my suitcase than you'll have.

792
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: No, he's gonna have to make sure. He's gonna have

793
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 5: to make sure he's gonna have enough room for wherever

794
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 5: you want to bring back. Two, you've got to make

795
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 5: sure there's the Starbucks in Italy. I don't know. I

796
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 5: don't know. I'm gonna imagine it's gotta be Starbucks.

797
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be.

798
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 5: Important for him. One you's got to make sure you'd

799
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: better pray to God he has a bar in the

800
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: hotel that's gonna be like a second home, because I

801
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: pretty much ended every night, you know that. I thought

802
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 5: actually the hotel was that had a secret bar on

803
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: the twenty sixth floor that few people found out about.

804
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 5: I just go up there on the wine at the

805
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 5: end of the day was Beijing that did not serve alcohol,

806
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: and all the NBC people stayed at the hotel that

807
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: was dry, and they was driving them up the wall.

808
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: Matt Hamilton and the US curling team found out that

809
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: there was a bar at that hotel started hanging out

810
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 5: there at night. After the matchup, so finding a place

811
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 5: to have a cold one at the end of the day, yeah,

812
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: is vital. And you know you had a time, make

813
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: sure you time uh the time, how long it takes

814
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: for you to get from the hotel to the whatever.

815
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 5: The medias that made this media center is that, Uh,

816
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: that's pretty important at all. He's going to spend most

817
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 5: of the time the hockey ring too. He's not going

818
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 5: to be going around the country, you know, looking at

819
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: speed skating or or cross country skiing or they are

820
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 5: snowboarding and things like that. So for him, me just

821
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 5: kind of to figure out if he even wants to

822
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 5: go to the media center, if he's just gonna take

823
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 5: a B line straight from the hotel, uh to the rink.

824
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: And he has to make sure he's got h Marcus

825
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: territory uh at the hockey press box, so he can

826
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 5: have a place he can go to every day.

827
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: So those are good tips.

828
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Those are good because those are not like tips you're

829
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: gonna find in a manual, but they're real life tips

830
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: that matter to people. So that that's a pretty good Uh,

831
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: even even your willingness to be self deprecating, I mean

832
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: that was pretty well done.

833
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 5: Thanks a lot. Yeah, the timing, you know, going from

834
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: our hotel to the to the media center in Beijing.

835
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: That was important to me. You know, Uh, well, we

836
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 5: used to take the same route. So there's actually like

837
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: an in Beijing. There's like a museum of the Communist

838
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 5: Party and we used to pass it every day, big

839
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: gleaming building. And I'm sitting next to Helen Elliott at

840
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 5: the La Times and I'm like, what are what type

841
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 5: of exists they would have in that museum? And she

842
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 5: was like, I wonder what they're selling in the gift shop.

843
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 5: So moments like that kind of helped the day go

844
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 5: by a little quick. Yeah, you can't get mundane. Days

845
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: could be long to and you know, but you know,

846
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: Russle's a rink rat, so he's probably gonna be in

847
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: his realm covering both the men's and the women's hockey team.

848
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Well, you hit on a really key thing in my

849
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: own Olympic experience is that it's over the years and

850
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: this this covers time in Dallas and here that it was.

851
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: It was always amusing to me for other people you

852
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: worked with to say well you need to go do this,

853
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 2: this and this, and you say, wait a minute, you're

854
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: going to the rink every day, which is like ten

855
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: minutes from where we live. I'm going up the mountain

856
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: which takes two and a half hours each way to

857
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: get there.

858
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: That's a little bit unequal.

859
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: So when it comes to figuring out who's doing what,

860
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: that's the most underrated thing of it, because, as you say,

861
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: depending on the location, you could have huge distances between

862
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: where you're staying or the media center or the venue

863
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: where you're actually trying to be on the scene covering

864
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: the event.

865
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: Exactly, you know, and hav't covered. That was my first Olympics.

866
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Speaker 5: I never covered any skiing event ever, you know. And

867
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Speaker 5: it was two and a half hours to the mountains

868
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Speaker 5: to the ski center, and we had to get on

869
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Speaker 5: a bullet train that did went two hundred and fifty

870
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Speaker 5: miles an hour, and we rode on that for about

871
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Speaker 5: an hour to get out, and then you had to

872
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 5: take how many buses was it one or two? Had

873
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Speaker 5: to take two buses to get to the base of

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Speaker 5: the mountain, and then we had to get on three

875
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 5: different types of gondolas to get up to the top,

876
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 5: you know, and it's it's quite a journey. And I

877
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 5: had one day I went to go cover an event

878
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 5: and by the time I got there it was canceled

879
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Speaker 5: because of high wind. So I lost five and a

880
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 5: half hours of travel time for nothing.

881
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: You know, that's the point.

882
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: So that's quite an experience. But I will tell you

883
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: that standing at the bottom of a mountain and looking

884
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Speaker 5: up and I'm like Paula Mountsen and and uh Lindsey

885
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 5: Vaughn and uh MICHAELA. Schiffer, and they seat on this stuff.

886
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 5: They are not They're not for doing it. And then

887
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 5: unfortunately Lindsay got injured today apparently yesterday, and an eventage.

888
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: She may not she may not go, but she thinks

889
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 5: she's got a chance to compete, So we'll see.

890
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

891
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: Appreciate the work. What do you got? What's the Sunday column?

892
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: My Sunday column was what I'm, what I am, what

893
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: I am expecting to see, on what I want to

894
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 5: see the most out of this Winter Olympics, A column

895
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Speaker 5: that may be preempted because of the firing today and

896
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: follow up. We got follow up packages running in Sunday's edition.

897
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 5: So I may be online only Sunday and nothing in

898
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Speaker 5: the physical paper.

899
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's legal, that's not a problem. I have

900
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: a wonderful weekend and we'll chat next week. Thank you,

901
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: all right, take care, Lavelle e Neil the third joining

902
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Speaker 2: us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.

903
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

904
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: He mentioned Lindsay Vaughan. I do want to get to

905
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: a little bit more on that story. We'll also talk

906
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 2: about we got a couple of interesting texts that came

907
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: in and there was something else that I wanted to

908
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: try to explore before we wrapped up this program. It'll

909
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: come to me, hopefully during this very short pause. Crazy

910
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: and Falvey out today. Nick Shirley expose Barrero Sanity, Slipping Away,

911
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Wolves and five. I had a couple of good ones

912
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: really early in the show, and I now I can't

913
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: go back that far because we got so many texts

914
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: today it's crazy.

915
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Speaker 4: So I appreciate all the efforts in that regard. On

916
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: this day, guards E.

917
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: Four twenty six, thirty years ago, do you know what

918
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: happened on this day in sports? Thirty years ago? And

919
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: I'll give you another clue. I was there to cover it.

920
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Jan thirty, nineteen hundred and six ninety six.

921
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: Did the Timberwolves beat the Bulls?

922
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Speaker 3: Was Michael Jordan? No, Well they might have, but that's

923
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Speaker 3: not the occasion.

924
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: No, this was Magic Johnson playing in his first NBA

925
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: regular season game in nearly five.

926
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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.

927
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Speaker 2: And I it was, I want to say, a day

928
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Speaker 2: or two after a Super Bowl that was in Arizona.

929
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Speaker 2: I was out in that direction and I convinced the boss,

930
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Speaker 2: as hey, let me find a way to get to

931
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Speaker 2: And as it was, it was the morning after getting

932
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Speaker 2: out of wherever. I think again, it was Arizona to

933
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: get to LA. I was waitlisted on about twenty flights

934
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Speaker 2: before I actually got on one, I felt like. But

935
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Speaker 2: then I did get there in time and was in

936
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Speaker 2: home alone.

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Speaker 3: That's it. And he was transcendent.

938
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Speaker 2: Nineteen points, ten assists, eight rebounds off the bench. The

939
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: Lakers beat Golden State one, twenty eight to twenty eighteen. Now,

940
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: as it turns out, and I honestly thought at the time,

941
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Speaker 2: he's back forever. He's going to be back for years.

942
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Speaker 2: But that was his last season. He played in more

943
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Speaker 2: games after that, but then that then he cut it off.

944
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Speaker 3: That was the end of the magic. The part two

945
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Speaker 3: of the Magic Johnson run.

946
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: You watch the Steelers lose to the Cowboys twenty seven

947
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: to seventeen at Sun Devil State.

948
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly.

949
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: I can't imagine having a Super Bowl at sun Devil

950
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: Stadium in the mid nineties. You know what's sad about

951
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: my memory on a lot of stuff is a disaster.

952
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't think that's a function

953
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: of age. It always has been. And then there's other

954
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: stuff that is clear as day. And you know what

955
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: I remember more than anything else from that occasion is

956
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: when I tried to convince I suggested, hey, let me

957
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: get I'll find a way to get to LA.

958
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: This is a big event. Let me cover it.

959
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: I'm not that far blah blah blah. And before I

960
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: got the you know, I technically had to get permission

961
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: for the you know, the start to me to pay

962
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: for it. This is how sad it could be inside

963
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: that building. Sometimes the answer I got from a couple

964
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: of people was why do we need to do that?

965
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: How is that our story? How small minded you have

966
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: to think at a metro newspaper to think that you

967
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: can only cover local stuff. That you have people who

968
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: been covering stuff for years and presumably decent at what

969
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: they do, and we got a chance.

970
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: He's he's volunteering for it. It's a pain in the ass,

971
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: to be honest.

972
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: With you, didn't get there, and that was the comeback was, well,

973
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: that's not really our story. There was from time to

974
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: time in that building some of the most small minded

975
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: thinking that you could possibly imagine. But eventually I won

976
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: them over. But I shouldn't. I shouldn't have had to

977
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: convince them, is my point. You know, Well, you mentioned

978
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: your memory. I think I found a thread. Oh anytime

979
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: you've been wrong? Do you remember it? Anytime you've been

980
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: It's a gumble light kind of a thing, A little bit.

981
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: It's a gumble thing where the enemy's list that I

982
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: keep as for the pall bearer list, correct exactly.

983
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some truth to that, because I think a

984
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: lot of people are like that, we remember. Yeah, it's

985
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: sad in a way, it is, but we're humans. Yeah,

986
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: that's part of it's true too. By the by their

987
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 4: own argument, then they didn't need to send him to

988
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

989
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's just what are we doing? I had

990
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: like a potpourri. Oh, so the new from the A

991
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: section today. The news is that now your guy Don Lemon,

992
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: I think, has been arrested. He got arrested I think

993
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: in l a yes, his part, and he was.

994
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 3: He attended.

995
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: The church, the worship service that that that got interrupted.

996
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 2: This isn't a This is the popular notion from people

997
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 2: what they want to hear if you're on the left,

998
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: necessarily because I'm not somebody, having been in my business

999
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: as long as I have, and have as much respect

1000
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: as I have for the journalism business, who generally approves

1001
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: of the detention or arrest of people in the newspaper

1002
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: business or the journalism business. But I got to tell you,

1003
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: Don Lemon's not at the top of my list. In fact,

1004
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: there's a story that concerns me a lot more because

1005
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: it involves a Washington Post reporter named Hannah Nathanson or nattinsen.

1006
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: Her devices.

1007
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: The FBI sees several of her devices earlier this month,

1008
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: and as Eric Wemple writes via X, the Reporters Committee

1009
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: for Freedom of the Press said, this is the first

1010
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: time the US Justice Department has rated a journalist's home

1011
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: in connection with the National Security League investigation. I'll be honest,

1012
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: I'm a lot more interested in.

1013
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: Falling on the sword for her, a real reporter, than

1014
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: I am Don Lemon, who I think has become kind of.

1015
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: A caricature of himself.

1016
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: And I said this, if you're a call A couple

1017
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: of weeks ago the biggest when there was discussion about

1018
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: where they might attempt to arrest him, and actually I

1019
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: think a judge turned down their first effort to do it,

1020
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: and they finally found somebody who said, yes, I guess

1021
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 4: so I said, here's my free advice to the rights.

1022
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: Don't arrest them.

1023
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: If you arrest them, all you're doing is giving him

1024
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: an even bigger platform than he otherwise would have and

1025
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: more attention than he would otherwise have.

1026
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: And he loves the martyr him role too exactly. You

1027
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: turn him into a martyr.

1028
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: And I saw today whatever his network online thing is,

1029
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: there are like twenty three million people paying attention to

1030
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: I said, he's won. You've handed the victory to a

1031
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: guy who, as far as I'm concerned, stop being a

1032
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: journalist a long time ago. Now he can say, well,

1033
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: I was covering it, and he was.

1034
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: But if you listen to.

1035
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: Some of the questions he asked, I would suggest he

1036
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: was doing what we in the business call advocacy journalism

1037
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: more than real old fashioned traditional journalism, where you're attempting

1038
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: to bring something to light and you're just you're letting

1039
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: the story play out as opposed to trying to be

1040
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: a part of it. But I'll just say it's never

1041
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: a good look for me when reporters get arrested. But

1042
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: I just have a hard time putting him at the

1043
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: top of the list when it comes to this sort

1044
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: of issue because I just think he's he's as I

1045
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: said earlier, I just think he's a caricature. I think

1046
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: he's become more about being an entertainer and an advocate,

1047
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: which is not illegal. But I don't think there's anything

1048
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: repertorial or journalistic about that either.

1049
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: So you know, after.

1050
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: Annoying I'm sure a lot of sharks, maybe I've annoyed

1051
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: a few jets with this position because I know what

1052
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm sosa to say is it's an outrage, and it's

1053
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: Don Lemon. He's a reporter, and he's a hard working reporter.

1054
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: First Amendment is under attack exactly, and it isn't an

1055
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: him back in a number of places. But I'm more

1056
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 4: interested in fighting the fight for this Washington Post reporter

1057
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: because that's a reporter, right, That's somebody who's actually trying

1058
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 4: to report on stuff, not do whatever it is at

1059
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: this point that this late date post CNN that I

1060
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: think Don Lemon is let's break.

1061
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Speaker 3: I got one more text I want to read.

1062
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll wrap up the program, remind

1063
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Speaker 2: you what we have coming up later tonight and what

1064
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Speaker 2: you might have missed on a very busy, busy busy

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Speaker 2: show Today.

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Speaker 2: guests today, Ben Gesling kind enough to come into studio

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Speaker 2: on a great day, a timely day, given the news

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Speaker 2: that the Vikings made earlier this late morning on Quazy

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Speaker 2: We had John Bream who attended the Bruce Springsteen concert

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Speaker 2: at You Know. What I forgot to ask him was

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Speaker 2: that the first time Springsteen has played there. I wonder,

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Speaker 2: have asked him, and I didn't. I guess I should know,

1081
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: but I'm not a hardcore Springsteen guy, right, so I

1082
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: don't know.

1083
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if do a quick google.

1084
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: Let me do a quick google to see at first app.

1085
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: But we had a good talk about that and the

1086
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: whole issue of singers offering up their commentary in politics,

1087
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, which is an age old debate.

1088
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: Lavelle on everything, including the twins move that was announced

1089
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: earlier before actually the quazy news broke as well. So

1090
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: all that available to you. What's tonight? Do we have

1091
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: anybody playing tonight?

1092
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: Not really?

1093
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 4: Not on the fan. We have Gopher hockey on City

1094
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: eleven thirty. When to go for men men's basketball? When

1095
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: do they play this weekend at Penn State? At Penn

1096
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 4: State where you just were where I was. Women play

1097
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 4: Perdue on Sunday and you won? Is it three in

1098
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: a row or two? Or is it four.

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00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: Three three three? Yes, it's three. That's true. Team, I know,

1100
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: I get all the games destroyed. Somebody didn't we Wisconsin

1101
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: the other day? The Badgers? That was that exactly real quick?

1102
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: At they beat Oregon too.

1103
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that gets into one of the meltdowns I had

1104
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: earlier today. Nick from Minneapolis rights in response to Steve

1105
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: from Florida, who had offered up a strong commentary that

1106
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: I try to fire back on. And here's the message

1107
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: that Nick would like Steve to understand. If he's still listening,

1108
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: I hope he is. Both my kids are biracial. My

1109
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 2: ex wife is jen from Peru, and within the last

1110
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: three to four weeks, my ex wife has been pulled

1111
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: over three times. One time she was stopped going into

1112
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: a convenience store and they demanded that to see her

1113
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: documents whether she was a United States citizen. She's a

1114
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: prime profile target, what the ICE agents are looking for

1115
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: right now, brown skin, heavy accent.

1116
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: One of the times she had to stay in the.

1117
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: Back of a vehicle for three to four hours while

1118
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: she was on her way to pick up her children

1119
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: from school. So I'm curious from Steve from Florida, is

1120
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: he okay with US citizens getting profiled almost every other

1121
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: day and scared to go out the door because they

1122
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: don't look like you.

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 5: Dan.

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00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for everything you do. I do enjoy your show.

1125
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: Wish you've never retired. I yeah, well some days, some

1126
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: days I wish I did yesterday, and then some days

1127
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: not so much.

1128
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: But I appreciate the word a little bit right around

1129
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: five days you but I think again.

1130
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: It's it's it's an important message that needs to be

1131
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: part of this discussion if we're going to be fair

1132
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: and honest to everybody involved.

1133
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: I have a hunch.

1134
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: We're going to get some Luger Andy Luger next week,

1135
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: and it might be in conjunction with some stuff that

1136
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: has some significance.

1137
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1138
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people working behind the scenes doing

1139
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 2: a lot of work. We'll see if any if there's

1140
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: anything new from a news standpoint, but it's always good

1141
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: to have him on regardless of that that might be

1142
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: coming up as well. Enough said tonight, you hear the

1143
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: enough said music, so we will be on guard, he

1144
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: tells me. At ten o'clock on Fox nine on the Plus,

1145
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: is it regular time or do we know?

1146
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't believe you're.

1147
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, we'll have some sports as well, so ten

1148
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 4: o'clock's not bad.

1149
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: We're usually at nine point thirty. It is a night

1150
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: where we kidded about how easy it would have been

1151
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: to go a full hour given the Toy Department late

1152
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: developments that we were able to pursue. We were not

1153
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 2: able to include Catherine O'Hara, unfortunately, because that happened even later,

1154
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: so he couldn't squeeze that in. But the first seg

1155
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: is a lot of the A section material that we've

1156
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: been dealing with for quite some time. And then there's,

1157
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: as I said, plenty from the toy department, including the

1158
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: two Well, one of them is I guess a dismissal.

1159
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: One of them is a combo platter. Although I think,

1160
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: as we talked about with Leavell, there's a good chance

1161
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: that part of what ended up happening is maybe even

1162
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: Falvey said I've had enough.

1163
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: I mean Lavo.

1164
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: Flatley says he doesn't think it was Fauve's idea to

1165
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: gut the bullpen, which again, if true in of itself.

1166
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: To me, if you're running the team, you say, well,

1167
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: I gotta go now, right, because it's like if you

1168
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: can't be the check and balance that says, you have

1169
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: me in charge of the team, right. I can't do

1170
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: that in good conscience and continue in this job. But

1171
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 2: is it possible there was another decision coming that even

1172
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: he said that's enough. Is it more consequential than that?

1173
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: Does it have to do with other issues?

1174
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1175
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: But it's a shock because when it happens two weeks

1176
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: before spring training, it's not in anybody's plan. It's not

1177
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: any part of any larger plan. It's an unraveling of sorts.

1178
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: And how it will.

1179
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: Affect this team moving forward, we don't know.

1180
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 4: Short run. They're going with GM guy to be the

1181
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 4: baseball guy. Basically sounds like a great interview. We should

1182
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: probably try to have him in studio. Man oh man,

1183
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 4: how about that? Oh yes, bubble Bell goesy. He speaks

1184
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: more in cliches than anybody you know. Oh great, I.

1185
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: Don't even know how that we have a Maybe it's

1186
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: true in every town now, maybe they're also conditioned.

1187
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: To learn to see.

1188
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the art of learning to say absolutely nothing but

1189
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: doing it in enough words that you fool people into

1190
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: thinking that you're actually giving them something.

1191
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: You know, But it's not even that.

1192
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody is fooled, and I don't think

1193
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: they think they're fooling. I just think they're talking to

1194
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: talk and checking that box that well, we talked to

1195
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: the media and they didn't say anything.

1196
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 2: We got a lot of that in this town right now.

1197
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: We do a lot of town, a lot of a

1198
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: lot of that. There's quite a bit of that. You know,

1199
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: who's not like that? Who?

1200
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 3: Nico?

1201
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: And if they win more games and people start to

1202
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 4: hear remark that show gets after it pretty good.

1203
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does stuff. It's fun. I actually like it.

1204
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 3: It's very fun.

1205
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: Quasy Adopha Mensa Fire, Twins and the pole Ads still

1206
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: in a quagmire.

1207
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: Wolves and Five. That's not mad, not bad, I guess

1208
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: not bad.

1209
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: Um.

1210
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: I can't read that one. I'm gonna leave that one alone.

1211
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: I got one here, get sacked.

1212
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 4: Falvey told to pack, Bruce sings the Minneapolis track, O'Hara

1213
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 4: home alone, Flashback, Wolves and Five.

1214
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: That's a good summary of the show too. That works

1215
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: out pretty well. Uh is Lavelle really concerned about the

1216
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: coffee quality in Italy?

1217
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, not for himself. I think he's concerned for us

1218
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: who because Russo exists on it. That was very thoughtful.

1219
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. And how self deprecating is lavel Well?

1220
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: The underwear thing worked for me in Park is my

1221
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: underwear is probably larger and Russo is underwear. We part

1222
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: of it is are you a boxer guy? Because boxers

1223
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: are bigger in general? They are, so that's going to

1224
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: take up more room than a brief than a brief now,

1225
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: a boxer brief is somewhere in between.

1226
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: But it's you gotta factor it is.

1227
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 4: And before you even ask, I don't want to know

1228
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: what either of them prefer. That's not how we need

1229
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 4: to end the week.

1230
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we find out from Russo first time we

1231
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: have him on from Italy?

1232
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 4: Why do you do that? Thursday? Is Bill garn going?

1233
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 4: Probably pretty quick?

1234
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 3: Better text him?

1235
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, do that Thursday the fifth, when I'm in Iowa City.

1236
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 4: You know we have to have on. I'm going to

1237
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 4: vow to get him before the NBA trade deadline. Tim Conley,

1238
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 4: we haven't had them on a long time. Maybe we

1239
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: can get him. Well, you got exactly right. Thanks for watching,

1240
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 4: Thank you for listening. Enjoy the weekend. We'll talk to

1241
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: your Sunday morning at nine Go Twins.

1242
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: Thank you for the airtime, and I'll talk to you

1243
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: soon