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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW. Glad you're a long fine Thursday night, Sterling,

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred WLW. Terry, welcome back. I appreciate you making time.

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Speaker 5: Sterling, I was just finishing my belt kool aid, you know,

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Speaker 5: Right, Montgomery and is really good. Thank you, Tom Gregory.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely I am. Now I'm salivating thinking about like some

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Speaker 5: Blackened scallops over over some caesar salad and a sweet potato.

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Speaker 5: They know the pack to this game. It's like Ohio State,

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Speaker 5: They stripped me up my powers. I'm no longer doing that.

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Speaker 5: They released me of my duties to hire another fundraiser, okay.

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Speaker 1: No, that's true. Oh no, I agree, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: goes from being two hundred thousand at UC to eight

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00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: hundred thousand a Duke. That for those numbers, and so

432
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: it's not so much about legacy, like man, I love Cincinnati,

433
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 5: I want to retire. I mean, when I finish my career,

434
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 5: I want to be here and come back for alumni

435
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: Association and all these events and all that. Now guys

436
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 5: are playing at five and sometimes six different schools during

437
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 5: the COVID era, five four for sure, but five and

438
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 5: six different schools I'm like, who are you gonna go

439
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: to with when it comes to, you know, alumni events,

440
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 5: you're gonna pay fifty dollars a month to six different

441
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 5: schools or whatever, or you just not gonna give anything,

442
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 5: because it's it's just crazy that there's no loyalty from

443
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: either side because if a player is not doing what

444
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 5: he's supposed to do, the coach will have that conversation like, look,

445
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: where can I help you go because we're gonna just

446
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 5: recruit over you. And then so that's what's happening to

447
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: my son, who's that bowling green with Eddie George right now.

448
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: They told him he's gonna have to hit the portal

449
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: because they're gonna bring in our own guys from Tennessee

450
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 5: State or wherever they're gonna bring them from. So in

451
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 5: this era, it's hard to coach when you know you're

452
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: only gonna have a guy for not even a full year,

453
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 5: like from the beginning of September when you first go

454
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Speaker 5: to class to the end of March, and at the

455
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Speaker 5: end of March, they're in the portal. Whether you like

456
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: them or not, they're in the portal, and it's just like,

457
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 5: good God, like, how can you build something here. I

458
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 5: don't end college coaches.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad these guys are being able to

460
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: make a living and in some cases a very good living,

461
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Speaker 1: and hopefully bank some of that money because there's no

462
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: guarantee on the future, and it's been well deserved to

463
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: be able to have some earnings out of what, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: the work that you've done, and all these other guys

465
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Speaker 1: do to reap some of those rewards. Talking to Terry Nelson,

466
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: Crosstown Shootout tomorrow Bearcats Musketeers sentas where it's at this

467
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: year ninety third matchup and here on seven hundred WLW

468
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: was Sterling one more question before we get back to

469
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: the shootout, specifically because the bouncing around hard enough on

470
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Speaker 1: the court, as I mixed metaphors for these guys to

471
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: be able to gel and find their way and for

472
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Speaker 1: coaching and everything associated with that. And you know, I've

473
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: moved around a bit doing this work, but it's a

474
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: bit of a different animal over the years, just acclimating

475
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: and so forth. How does that work? And how do

476
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: these guys handle their studies because they're also having to

477
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: devote even maybe more time where it is a ton

478
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: of time just trying to get their game where it

479
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: needs to be. Also, we're talking no, no, I heard you,

480
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I got you. I just want to make sure you

481
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: were okay. But the silence for a minute was like pointing.

482
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, oh, Terry is okay. I'm here dealing

483
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: with everything to get it right on the court with

484
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: all that transient menoportal movement. How is it for these

485
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: guys trying to find their way academically or is that lost?

486
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: I mean they still have to do what they have

487
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: to do in the classroom.

488
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Speaker 5: Right, Well, these guys are graduating earlier. Right So, doctor

489
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: Joe Lucky is one of the best in the country.

490
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 5: Ever since he's come to University Sincinnati from Memphis, the

491
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: University of Cincinnati athletic department has been either number one

492
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 5: or number two in overall department GPA in the AAC

493
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 5: and the Big twelve.

494
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Speaker 2: Nice.

495
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Speaker 5: So doctor Joe Lucky makes everybody go to the summer

496
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 5: school at least six hours. Its whole philosophy is, if

497
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 5: you take eighteen hours and you take six in the summer,

498
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: you're graduating four years. If you take a little bit more,

499
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: take a little bit more in the summer, and you

500
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: can have a chance of graduating three and a half

501
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: years and still have time to know finish your masters.

502
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 5: So there's some people that take twenty one credits and

503
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 5: they go to summer school because they can stay here

504
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 5: and get the meal plan and the whole nine and

505
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: left and do the whole thing. Because they're dedicated to

506
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 5: their crafts. They graduate in three years and they get

507
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: that by the time they finish their playing career, they

508
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 5: can have their master's degree. So and then a lot

509
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: of the basketball players are taking online classes. So because

510
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 5: doctor Lucky says it's not fair for an athlete to

511
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: fly in and snowstorms and all the other stuff in

512
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 5: the winter months when basketball is played and you know,

513
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: being playing delays and all that and get there and

514
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 5: have to go to an eight o'clock class or ten

515
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 5: o'clock class or whatever when you just landed at two

516
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 5: in the morning and you got to get unpacked, go

517
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 5: to sleep the whole nine and then have to get

518
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: up and be at school at ten in the morning.

519
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 5: Get them an online classes so now he can send

520
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: one of his staff members to go on every tip

521
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: they go and check their work with the laptops and

522
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 5: everything that's provided for them. So it's been much better

523
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: because guys are they're not missing classes. Everybody has over

524
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: it three point zero and everybody's getting their stuff done

525
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: and he makes it. And Doctor Lucky has been empowered

526
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: as a senior associate athletic director that he can pull

527
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: a guy from a game and the coach has nothing

528
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: to do with it. So if a guy is not

529
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 5: going to class, if he's not getting his work done,

530
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: doctor Lucky can can call in and be like, hey,

531
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: he's until he gets his paper done. He can't come

532
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: to practice, he can't come to a game, and the

533
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: coach has nothing to say about it because that's his

534
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 5: job now. And so because there's a standard like that, now,

535
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: guys they take it serious and they get their work done.

536
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. Way before anything like this was

537
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: going on, I remember just at right stage seeing these

538
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: guys in class and I'm like, you guys played last night.

539
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I listened, I watched, and they're in there hitting the

540
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: books and more focus than I was. And I was like,

541
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: I am obviously not getting it done.

542
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 5: And now we're trying to be models. They're in their

543
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: sleeping brother, come.

544
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: On, some mus I might have fallen asleep too. For

545
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: that matter, I'm thinking about talking to Terry Nelson the

546
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: Crossown shootout tomorrow. All right, So these guys who are

547
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: not familiar when you walk into another campus and you

548
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: walk onto that court at Sentas and these guys who

549
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: haven't felt this matchup in this energy in the ninety

550
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: third meeting of Musketeers and Bearcats, and they're looking to

551
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: get it on tomorrow night on seven hundred WLW. Does

552
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: that energy just soak into them and they get it?

553
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: How long do you think it takes before they start

554
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: to feel that energy from the crowd, from the alums,

555
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: from everybody else there who may you know, have already

556
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: experienced this for you know, a couple of seasons, two years.

557
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: It gets real when they get there in that ninety

558
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: minutes before and they're doing shoot arounds and they're doing

559
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 5: their pregame stuff, and the Xavier students will be there

560
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: drinking signs, you know, having signs held up calling them

561
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: out their name, trying to get them off their game,

562
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: you know, trying to jar them a little bit. It'll

563
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: it'll hit them because some of these guys have been

564
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: in the environments where even if they were the opposing team.

565
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: People knew who they were and they were like wanting

566
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: to see a show. So they may talk a little

567
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: trash until they show that they are like that and

568
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 5: this is the reason why they're going D one or whatever.

569
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: Then they'd be like, Oh, everybody's clapping for the guy

570
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: who's making to play. Regardless of what side they're on.

571
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: Xavier is different. They're gonna realize that Xavier don't care

572
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: if you have a forty point game. They're gonna talk

573
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 5: bad about you the entire game. They're gonna say stuff

574
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: about you. They're gonna try to get into your head.

575
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: And they have to be mentally tough because only mentally

576
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: strong and mentally tough teams going to Xavier and win.

577
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: So if in the crossounds shootout situation, don't get intimidated

578
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: by the crowd because normally you go to a gym

579
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: at ninety minutes before, it's not that pack. It's just

580
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 5: some of the service workers. It's a couple of college

581
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 5: students coming in there. Xavier, it's the student section is

582
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: gonna be packed. They're gonna be there waiting. When I

583
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: played Memphis was like that they had signs, they had

584
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: you know, they were drinking they had newspapers, they put

585
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: their face, you know, hide their face. They want to

586
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: see you. Navier is the real deal. This environment is

587
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 5: gonna be good for them because for some of them

588
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: it's gonna be shocking. So we're hoping that once they

589
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: see that and they get into a game, they make

590
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: a shot early or get a block early or still

591
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: early to settle them down, because they're gonna want to

592
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: prove to themselves that they're gonna want to shut the

593
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: fans up so bad that they forced the issue. Like

594
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant in Game seven of that two thy eleven

595
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: Championship against the Celtics, where he couldn't make a shot yep,

596
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 5: but he still got an MVP of the series, but

597
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: he wanted it so bad that his nerves overtook him

598
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: and he couldn't make a shot. It took ron our

599
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: test to win a game, you know, from them to

600
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: get that championship. It's gonna be nerve wrecking.

601
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to giving an earful tomorrow. Bearcatch look

602
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: to make it back to back. They won by three

603
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty five last year. They'll do it at

604
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Sentas Tomorrow night, seven thirty tip off It's always great

605
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: hearing you. Good to talk to you. I appreciate you

606
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: making time. It's tear Nelson. He is a legend until

607
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: he'll be calling the game with Dan Horde tomorrow. Right

608
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW whi's the Crosstown shootout. Terry,

609
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: thank you for making time. I really do appreciate it.

610
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great night.

611
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: Done.

612
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. All right, news time straight away. Sorry

613
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit late. We'll have Dave Hatter on

614
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: the other side talking to cybersecurity issues. Where the Bengals

615
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: play Sunday here seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati. Can you hear that?

616
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: That's the sound of lots of electronic toys, communication technology

617
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: on the wrist, in the hand, in the backseat, in

618
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: the bed at night with that blue light when you're

619
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be trying to sleep or the kids are

620
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be getting ready for school tomorrow, rather than

621
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: like who knows what they're doing there? Maybe buying games

622
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: and stuff on your dollar. There's a lot including shopping.

623
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Is we continue to hit the store cyber week, I

624
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: guess is what we're calling it now. How you're doing

625
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: at Sterling on a Thursday Night. Dave Patter, cybersecurity expert

626
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW Hicks credentials or an alphabet soup of things.

627
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the hell they are.

628
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

629
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: He's an architect of software, consultant, educator and he's a

630
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: self described nerd, which I I think we're maybe brothers

631
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: from other mothers. Dave Patter, how are you? How's everything?

632
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm good, stirring, thanks for having me on. And you

633
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: know I was gonna say, but you said it better

634
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: than I could. You could just condence all of it down.

635
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to just kind of a nerd, you know,

636
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: cool hat wear nerd. When you get right down to

637
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: the brother.

638
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: It's all right. You're well dressed. We saw you at

639
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: the Christmas party. It was good and I'm like, man,

640
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't ask it like you

641
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: have you on then, but I was like, just shiny objects,

642
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: jingle bells and all. It was too much And I

643
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: are absolutely and you were headed out. I think you

644
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: had some type of mayor business to deal with, because

645
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: you know you you are that guy, which is pretty

646
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Speaker 1: nice too for it, right, right, So I.

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Speaker 4: Had to get out of there. You are correct, for

648
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Speaker 4: a city council meeting, you know, before it got too crazy.

649
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to avoid the crazy, but it maintained

650
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: some sense of the court. Somebody's got to do it,

651
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: so as mayor for instance, as well as an expert

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00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: in cybersecurity. And I have friends who had issues with

653
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: the water bill, not in Ohio but elsewhere recently where

654
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: apparently their water company or whoever provides their water service

655
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: apparently got jacked, which has caused them problems. This being

656
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: the holiday shopping season, lots of new gear as well,

657
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: aside from just going either on a device of choice

658
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: or actually going to the store, which I like to

659
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: do a little bit of both, there's a lot of

660
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: issues with people's credentials being stolen and emails and phishing

661
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: scams and everything else. And I don't mean like I'm

662
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Speaker 1: going to take a trip to go do some fly fishing.

663
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about fishing of other types. What's the biggest

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Speaker 1: threat or concern that you see right now now, Dave Hatter, Well.

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Speaker 4: You always see elevated risk around any type of big

666
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Speaker 4: time shopping event. Prime Day for example, when Prime Day

667
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Speaker 4: hit this year, a cybersecurity firm had done so research

668
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: and in this place right into what I'm going to

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Speaker 4: say next. But they did some research and found that

670
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Speaker 4: over two hundred thousand, two hundred thousand fraudulent websites were

671
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: created around Prime Day at a four month period. And

672
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: there's two key things, and then I'll come back to

673
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: the Christmas season here. First off, the average person who's

674
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Speaker 4: not in the business like me and a nerd like

675
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: you to spend thirty plus years do with this, doesn't

676
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: realize how easy it is to create something that is spooked,

677
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: something that looks legitimate to the naked eye, but it

678
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: is fraudulent. Whether it's an entire website like these two

679
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: hundred thousand websites, whether it's an email, whether it's a

680
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: text message, whether it's a phone call. And thanks to AI,

681
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: it's getting easier and easier to do these things. But

682
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: it's very easy to create something that looks like it's

683
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: legit to the naked eye, and unless you're fairly technical

684
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: or we know how to dig into it, you can't

685
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: tell it's not legit. The bad guys notice. And when

686
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: you get into these again, these shopping oriented seasons, they

687
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: will frequently set up fake websites. They will you know,

688
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: send out hundreds of millions of phishing emails because it's

689
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: cheap and easy to do, and it's easy to make

690
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: them look very realistic. I would bet you every single

691
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 4: person you're listening audience has gotten one or more frauds

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Speaker 4: with texts in the last couple of days. I'm de

693
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: loused with these things. You know, your package didn't get delivered,

694
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: you owe a told the sheriff wants to see you

695
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Speaker 4: about whatever.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: You know, it's very easy to spoop a phone number,

698
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: and it's nearly, you know, almost free to send out texts,

699
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: so you know they're coming at you from every angle.

700
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: They're on social media, they're in kids' video games. But

701
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: when you get into these shopping seas, its right when

702
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: they know people are looking for deals. In many cases,

703
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: you've got guys like me who wait to the last

704
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 4: minutes to buy something for their wife. You know, they're

705
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: playing off all these angles. They're putting all this fraudulum

706
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: stuff out there, But it's really the stooping and then

707
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: the social engineering that goes along with it. Whether it's

708
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: the this deal is too good to be true. You

709
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 4: have to act by five pm to day or your

710
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: package has been delayed or whatever. They create things that

711
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: look very realistic and then and you know, they engineer

712
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: you with either a deal it's too good to be true,

713
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: or there's some sort of disaster that's about to happen

714
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: to you. And you know that's how they suck people

715
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: into this stuff, and then it just gets elevated around

716
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: the You know it's never ending, but it's really elevated

717
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 4: these times a year because they know people are ready

718
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Speaker 4: to spend money and they're out there looking for good deals.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Dave had her cybersecurity expert of the Big One,

720
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Speaker 1: Stirling on two hundred thousand fraudulent websites. That's hard to process.

721
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Speaker 1: But the bell that rang in my head as soon

722
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Speaker 1: as you said that is that someone very close to me,

723
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: an elderly or elder relative of mine, tells me is

724
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: she was getting on one of her insurance websites that

725
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: apparently they had spoofed that site and had different phone

726
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: numbers and even a link that she caught early, but

727
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: was concerned even calling that wasn't sure that what number

728
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: was right because they were just a number or two

729
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: off for transposed, and not everybody. I was surprised. She

730
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: reached out to me. I'm like, I don't know if

731
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm the right person to call this, but what do

732
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: you tell so what about that? And you would think

733
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: that a big insurance company would have a way to

734
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Speaker 1: protect themselves from that very issue, if nothing else, by

735
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: using you know, all the dot biz, dot everything else

736
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Speaker 1: to avoid anything close to being faked.

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Speaker 4: Well, you're you're on the right track, Sterling, And in

738
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: many larger organizations with deep pockets that can go out

739
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: and register a bunch of different domains will do that

740
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: right to keep people from setting up these doppelganger domains

741
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: and these spoof websites for something similar. But there's there's

742
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: two major problems with this that make it an almost

743
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: insurmountable task. Again, even if you're like a Kroger p

744
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: and G someone with very deep pockets, you might register

745
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: a Kroger dot com, Kroger dot biz, Kroger dot whatever. Right,

746
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: here's here's the thing that the bad guys know that

747
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: the average person doesn't, and it really gets to the

748
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: heart of this spoofing issue. Again. You can I could

749
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: go out right now and with very little skill get

750
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: a get a free tool that would allow me to

751
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 4: clone to literally copy everything off the seven hundred wl

752
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: do website, put it on a server somewhere and then now,

753
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: of course, the trick is, how do I register a

754
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: domain that looks like seven hundred wow dot com or

755
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Sure, well, okay, here's part

756
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 4: of the trick if you think about it. Other languages

757
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: have different characters, right, Spanish has a different character set.

758
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: You know, it overlaps with English, but they have certain

759
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: characters with umlautz and umloutz. German but things like that, right,

760
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: German has you know, umlountz. When you look at other

761
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: characters and from other character sets, right, Like, if you

762
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: get a keyboard that's set up for German, it will

763
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: allow you to enter these German characters. So this is

764
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Speaker 4: the idea of a character set. Well, there's character sets

765
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Speaker 4: for every language known. Demand I could go out and

766
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 4: I could try to register a domain seven hundreds of

767
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 4: a little tricky because they're just zeros. But I might

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Speaker 4: rEFInd a character set where the upper case letter O

769
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: to the naked eye looks like a zero. The computer

770
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: knows that's not a zero, but the human being does

771
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 4: not know that's not a zero. I might register domain

772
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Speaker 4: name like city Bank, where the A is actually like

773
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Speaker 4: a different character from another language, looks very similar to

774
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Speaker 4: the English A. If you know what you're looking for,

775
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 4: and you look very carefully, you'll see a very very

776
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Speaker 4: tiny difference. But the average person A does not even

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00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: know this is a thing. And secondarily, unless you're paying

778
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: extremely careful attention and you're just a total tinfoil hat

779
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: nut like me, you're not going to notice this. The

780
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: bad guys know this, of course, so I think, and

781
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 4: that's you know, that's why one of the reasons why

782
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: I very much appreciate you letting me come on to

783
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 4: talk about this. But the best defense against all of

784
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: this is awareness. Awareness that this is happening, That this

785
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: is not some stuff some nut like me made up.

786
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: This is real. It's happening all the time. These people

787
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: that are behind it are very smart, right, and they're

788
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: playing off the fact that the average person doesn't understand

789
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 4: any of this. So I create a website like target

790
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: dot com, for example, and instead of the A, I

791
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: use the krillic right, it looks almost exactly like an A.

792
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: So and to answer your question specifically, there is it

793
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: would be almost impossible to register every possible combination of

794
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: a domain with every character set known demand to try

795
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: to block someone from creating a doppelganger site that's using

796
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 4: that technique. Does that make sense?

797
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: This is a difficult It absolutely does, and it doesn't

798
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: really make me feel a whole lot better about any

799
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: of this. To be honest with you're talking to Dave

800
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: had or cybersecurity expert. But yeah, I understand, you just

801
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: have to be It's sort of like with telling someone

802
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: that you know when they tell you they're not going

803
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: to call you, that they're really not going to call

804
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: you and ask you for information out of the blue

805
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: or text you for certain information and so forth.

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: I want to go down that path because I think

807
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: that's super important and it ties into this. But there's

808
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: one last thing I want to throw out. And even

809
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 4: if they don't use a different character set, they're sometimes

810
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: so crafty. They might register let's say Microsoft dot com

811
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: and they'll use a lowercase R and a lowercase end

812
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: because unless you're looking very carefully, it looks like a

813
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: lowercase M when they're right next to one another. Yeah,

814
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: that's how that's how creative these folks are. So again,

815
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 4: knowing these kind of scams are out there and knowing

816
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: that you should be extra aware and on heightened alert

817
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: year when they're sending out the deal that's too good

818
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 4: to be true and you got to act on it today. Right,

819
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: If you're just aware and skeptical, you're going to be

820
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: a lot better off than most people. And then to

821
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: your point, like, don't take the call. So this just

822
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: just in the headlines. Recently, Apple has been warning that

823
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: there are tech support scams out there. This tech support

824
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: scam is not new, but it doesn't have to be

825
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 4: tech support. No big company. Apple will tell you on

826
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 4: their website. Google will tell you on their website. Microsoft

827
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: will tell you on their website. And if you don't

828
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 4: believe what I'm about to say, neck try to call

829
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 4: them and see if you can get help from them,

830
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: much less them sitting around going huh, looks like Sterling's

831
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: computer might have a virus. Hey, Sterling, this is Apple.

832
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 4: You might have a virus on your computer. Well, I'm

833
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: just letting me get in there and fix that thing

834
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 4: up for you. That is never, ever, ever, ever going

835
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 4: to happen. If you get a call like that, you know,

836
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: you get a call from your bank going back you

837
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: mentioned irrelative. I'm sitting on accounts one night with my

838
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: wife and she gets a call from our bank quote

839
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: unquote USAA, hey, there's broad on your accounts. Blah blah

840
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: blah blah. My hang up, it's a scam. She's like, no,

841
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: this sounds legitimate. It's a scam.

842
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 5: Trust me. Hang up.

843
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: Your bank is not going to call you. They're not

844
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: going to text you, and if they do, right, you

845
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 4: should not act on that. You should hang up, don't

846
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: take the call, get out your credit card, call the

847
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: number on the credit card, get your bank statement, go

848
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: to the app on your phone that you use every day,

849
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 4: Go to the website that you use. Don't take debate folks,

850
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 4: because they are professional con artists.

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00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: That's their job. It'll be nice if they use their

852
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: powers for good, but they don't. I guess it's part

853
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: of the fun. They've had. Her final question, We're short

854
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: on time, and I appreciate the insight. And I could

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00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: talk for hours on this, which I'm sure would put

856
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: you to sleep, because this is what you're life. I

857
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: just live in fear and don't answer my phone, so

858
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: yes or no answer. Effectively, smart toys are everywhere. AI

859
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: is everywhere. Do you trust smart toys with your kids

860
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five going into twenty twenty six, this

861
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: gift giving holiday season.

862
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, not a chance I would buy any sort of

863
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: internet connected toy, especially if it has a AI in

864
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: it for my children or grandchildren. Not a chance I

865
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: would buy something like that. Way too much risk, not

866
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: just because of the AI, but because of the surveillance

867
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: they're recording the freaky, weird people that could potentially access

868
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: your kids through it. I would avoid that stuff like

869
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: the plague. And if you look at any kind of

870
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: consumer ambassy groups that looks at this, they will tell

871
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: you the same thing, stay away from next stuff.

872
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: How can people find out more about what you do

873
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: and reach out if they in fact need the help

874
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: of one day've had or cybersecurity expert here the big.

875
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: One, Well, I'm easy to find on x Dave at

876
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: dave had LinkedIn or intrust dash dot com.

877
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: There you go, Thank you, my man. I hope you

878
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: have a fantastic night. And I feel see you're supposed

879
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: to make me feel better. And even Joe Waddell was

880
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: producing He's like, I don't feel much safer at all,

881
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: So that's great, I guess fear is great. TV is

882
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: good at scaring people. I guess we're getting better at it.

883
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Two here Dave had her Thank you.

884
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: Sir, always my pleasure.

885
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Ster Thanks, take care of yourself. Quick break coming up

886
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: ten third to report, other side more to do plus

887
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: Dev Shapiro talking about got a deal and saving money

888
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: for you this holiday season. Sterling seven hundred WLW. Hey,

889
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: how you doing, Sterling? Hanging out fine? Thursday Night, seven

890
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Somer Night Basketball bear Cats Crosstown shoot at

891
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: face off against Xavier's Musketeers Sinta Center seven thirty tip

892
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: conversation earlier with Terry Nelson, of course, one of those

893
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: voices of the basketball bear Cats that are on the

894
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: program for a long time than they're part of that

895
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: final four team back in ninety two. As well. You

896
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: can listen back to the podcast talking to him about

897
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: that matchup and everything else with that podcast to be

898
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: up at the show a little bit later as we

899
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: get into atn after midnight. Also a bit stuff with

900
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter or cybersecurity expere with a whole lot of

901
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: people shopping and so forth for new gear and a

902
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: lot of concern and people out there looking to high

903
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: star stuff our identities in our pockets for sure, looking

904
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: to rip people off. So that'll be worth listening to

905
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: as well. Coming up in about twenty seven minutes or so,

906
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: Deb Shapiro from godadeal dot com going to talk about

907
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: saving money and where the best deals are this cyber

908
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: week and what's left of it and leading up through

909
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: those holidays where were let to take care of the

910
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: ones that we care about, the ones we love, and

911
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: it maybe even a little good stuff for ourselves as well.

912
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: Appreciate you hanging out speaking of such a larra Lee

913
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: Mallen came in. I'm sorry, I just said a brain cramp.

914
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: He comes in to the studio and he says, you're

915
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: looking for like a ramp for like laptops and desktop

916
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: computers and so forth. AI, which is supposed to be

917
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: the savior for everything unless you're in like hospitality business

918
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of jobs, will be made a lot

919
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: easier with the help of AI and all the technology

920
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: with it helping to make stuff faster, complicated solutions found

921
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: much easier, and so forth. But streamlining workflows and of

922
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: course rationalizing expenses for individuals, for small business and certainly

923
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: big business of the world is changing and changing fast,

924
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: but this is disturbing if you're someone who likes to

925
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: mess around with your own technology, your laptop, your desktop.

926
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a gamer somebody like that, where you want

927
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: to maybe put some ram in, maybe soup up your

928
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: stuff without actually buying new gear overall, new laptop, new desktop.

929
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: I've been one of those people who go to microcenter,

930
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: go online, maybe somewhere else order look for the best

931
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: price for the stuff, something quality. And apparently the idea

932
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: of cheap RAM, at least for the time being, is

933
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: not going to be back anytime soon, depending on what

934
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: you're looking at. And they say that's because of a

935
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: generative AI data centers. Apparently it's sucking up all the

936
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: world's memory and storage supplies and jacking up prices with it.

937
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: It's not just going to be our electricity or issues

938
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: with water to cool down all these hard working technologies.

939
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: Apparently it's also going to hurt people who like to

940
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: mess around and build their own stuff or tool it

941
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: or whatever else they're saying. Now price is up five

942
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent for SSD and overall mets from a CyberPower

943
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: pc and a bunch of others. May we had to

944
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: have Dave Hatter on about this too. My guess is

945
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: he's one of those like fix him up type of people.

946
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So in the midst of all this change

947
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: and evolution, if you will, that's going to be something

948
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: to look forward to, apparently cheaper to just to buy

949
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: new stuff, which is where we are in a lot

950
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: of ways, disposable society. I mean, you know, take the

951
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: time to fix something or order it, you know, from

952
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: a pick up place or go to the store, and

953
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you can buy new for less than it would be

954
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: to fix some stuff used to be. You know tube

955
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: TV's I hear my elders tell me about. Oh yeah,

956
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: I remember when you go you have a TV repair

957
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: man come to the house, they plug tubes in, get

958
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: it fixed up. And you know that you keep a

959
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: TV that was the size of like, I don't know,

960
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: maybe my first apartment or something. Now you get a

961
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: TV the size of your wall, and if it goes

962
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: on the fritz, depending, you just go get a new one.

963
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: So it's a weird, disposable kind of world in which

964
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: we're living in a lot of ways, and apparently laptops

965
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: and other stuff for that ram that gets popped in

966
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: and out. If you wanted to sort of soup up

967
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: your gear, it's going to be a situation where it

968
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: might be cheaper to go buy something new overall and

969
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: forget about it. So that's something leading into the holidays.

970
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: And if you've got somebody who's big into gaming and

971
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: so forth, they probably already known this. It's been a

972
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: while since I've actually, you know, souped up one of

973
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: my bits of equipment. And when Lee came in here,

974
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking about? I'm like,

975
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: oh no, let me see. So I started looking at prices. Yeah,

976
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: it is steep. It is happening five three seven nine

977
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: seven eight hundred. The Big One. Your chance to get interactive,

978
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. If you're streaming there and it's Thursday,

979
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: you know what's happening live. And if you're looking at

980
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: a podcast, we can still talk back by clicking on

981
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: the microphone into certainly leaving a message there. I'm going

982
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: to bring something and you can sound off on anything

983
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: that we've talked about. Basically tonight. Five three seven nine,

984
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: seven thousand, eight hundred. The Big One. Pick up the phone,

985
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: give it the finger. Like my good friend mister K

986
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: used to say, I want to revisit something I mentioned earlier,

987
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: because I have gotten a good number of communicate by

988
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: way of X in direct messaging also and to some

989
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: conversations that just in general, and I sort of led

990
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: with this early on, talking about those Pentagon officials, higher

991
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: ups in the military generals and stuff with a whole

992
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: lot of decorations on those chests. You may have seen

993
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: video of this already closed door meeting with lawmakers discussing

994
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: those attacks on what they're calling drug boats in parts

995
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: of the Pacific. They got another one today, killing four

996
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: and apparently putting the kaibash on some drugs coming stateside.

997
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: At least that's the idea, whether from Columbia or elsewhere,

998
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: whether it's from Venezuela over in the Caribbean. Of course,

999
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: when all these attacks started, which is what this hearing

1000
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: was about, and these conversations and probing questions with these

1001
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: military generals and so forth who were a party to

1002
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: these decisions and continuing that operation, that's onward and forward

1003
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: at this point. Here's what I want to know, because

1004
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: the idea of the war on drugs, right, it seems

1005
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: like as long as I've been alive, they've been talking

1006
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: about a war on drugs, which means that a whole

1007
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: lot of people still looking to get hopped up on

1008
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: the goofballs of one type or another and enjoying the

1009
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: drugs and stuff. And it doesn't seem that the hunger

1010
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: is going away. So I'm just wondering, because you know,

1011
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: this was not far from but certainly the ravages of

1012
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: the opioid epidemic and still fentanyl issues and car fentanyl issues,

1013
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: and people still like the cocaine I understand, and there

1014
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: are probably some other drugs I don't even know about

1015
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: that people like to get hopped up on. The concern

1016
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: is not knowing the power of some of these. And

1017
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: there was a whole lot of talk that it was

1018
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: from China before China, China, China, China, China. We kept

1019
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: hearing it was from China. Then we heard it was

1020
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: coming through Canada, so they sealed up that border. Apparently

1021
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: they sealed up the southern border. Now they're going after

1022
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: like cigar boats and everything else. That reminds me of

1023
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: reruns of Miami Vice that's pretty much streaming twenty four

1024
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: hours a day. What I want to know is this,

1025
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: what do you think this is going to somehow help

1026
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: limit the supply of drugs here Stateside, my guess is

1027
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: they'll find another way to get it in here. I'm

1028
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: just guessing cargo containers, whatever else it is, and law enforcement,

1029
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: DEA whatever, they're working hard trying to end all of this.

1030
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: But what I want to know in addition to that is,

1031
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: are you concerned about so called war crimes? Are you

1032
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: concerned that somehow in international waters we're just blowing these

1033
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: vessels up and leaving people to fend for themselves, if

1034
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: not killing them immediately, letting them drown, or whatever else

1035
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: goes into it. If you've ever been out at sea

1036
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: any distance where you can't see shore anymore, probably can't

1037
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: swim the shore. We certainly know that the drug problem

1038
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: here State site is an issue. Is this going to

1039
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: help curb it? Just raise prices for the dope? Is

1040
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: this something that we should be doing with our military?

1041
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I asked, because a lot of people are upset, A

1042
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of people are up in arms, you know, and

1043
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people are thinking that somehow we have

1044
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: crossed a line, and that includes lawmakers, some from both

1045
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: sides of the aisle in relation to this. So I'm

1046
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: just curious I have seen the ravages of what drugs do.

1047
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: Whether it's legal drug like alcohol booze. A lot of

1048
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: people hit the bottle. More people kill themselves drinking than

1049
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: just about anything else. Hell, they kill a lot of

1050
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: other people too when they get behind the wheel. Whether

1051
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, prescription medications used and abused, whether it's

1052
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: some other type of pharmaceutical that is cooked up someplace,

1053
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: methamphetamine or otherwise. People like to get high. They have

1054
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: always like to alter their minds. It starts as early

1055
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: as the playground and spinning around on do you call

1056
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: it a marrow go round? Whatever, the things that spins around,

1057
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, or even I've seen kids and

1058
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: I remember doing this spinning around and then you know,

1059
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: you fall down because you're dizzy and disoriented. That's the

1060
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: first time a lot of kids notice that they're altered,

1061
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: not feeling like they once did, a little woozy or otherwise.

1062
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: So one is this going to make a difference? Should there?

1063
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: What can we do differently? And do you give a

1064
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: damn about people being blown up in the Caribbean or

1065
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: in parts of the Pacific by our military if they

1066
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: are in fact putting an end to an influx of

1067
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the illegal drugs that is leaving the wake of carnage, death, suffering,

1068
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: illicit trafficking on the streets of Cincinnati, in Newport and

1069
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Covington and Dayton, Ohio, or anywhere else across the country

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Speaker 1: for that matter, thirty eight states after dark listening to

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Speaker 1: me on the Nation station or effectively the world and

1072
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. People have been looking to get drunk

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00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: and high in one way or another forever. So what

1074
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: difference is this really going to make? And if you

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: are on vacation or heading some place in the Caribbean,

1076
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: are you more or less likely to take a fishing

1077
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: vessel out in a boat to go check out and

1078
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: to see if you can't catch some big fish or

1079
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe do some scuba diving. I've been to Cosmo, I've

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00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: been to other places in the Caribbean and had a

1081
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: chance to do with some of that. I like to

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00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: fish as well. My biggest worry was losing a pole,

1083
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: running out of air, getting the bends. I never thought

1084
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: that in that situation I might be looking from above

1085
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: to see if it was my ass that was going

1086
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: to be blown out of the water, which is what

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: people in these countries are now are saying that they're

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: fishermen and not drug dealers or traffickers five point three

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Speaker 1: seven four nine seven eight hundred the big one. Does

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: it matter to you that this is going on? And

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00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: the idea that it is a war and the question

1092
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: of war crimes is that you'd have to have a

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: declaration of war, which I don't recall we've done, even

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00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: though it has been the war on drugs for as

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: long as I've pretty much been alive. To Clifton and

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00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: Kevin was sterling on seven hundred WLW Kevin, what's going on?

1097
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: Appreciate you listening to being a part of the show.

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 7: Spelling. You hit it on that. You hit it on

1099
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 7: the head man, you hit it one hundred on the

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Speaker 7: head Tarling play style Montown listener, Uh, thank you you

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00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 7: and Donna, you guys right. Appreciate Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: Own property, well, my family does in the caravan and

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Speaker 7: I'm afraid spelling, I am afraid. I'm afraid. I'm usually Kevin,

1104
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 7: but now I'm afraid because them pulling the boats and

1105
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 7: I guess I can't go out on the boat.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 7: The good thing is I don't swim that well, so

1108
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 7: I probably wasn't going on the boat anyway, It's probably

1109
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 7: not going to work out. I don't think I'll start

1110
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 7: targeting planes because I do fly and those are really small.

1111
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 7: Post story, I am. I am at a loss as

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 7: to whether or not those are the kind of boats

1113
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 7: are the problems for the millions of pounds of drugs

1114
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 7: coming to the US on an annual basis. I just

1115
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 7: I don't see it.

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: There is a hunger. I would think that there would

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00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: be an effort in some way, because I mean, listen,

1118
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: we don't want it coming here. Although I say, do

1119
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: what you want and handle yourself appropriately and if you

1120
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to do some drugs, do them.

1121
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: Just don't put anybody else in harm's way and live

1122
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: your life. That's just my view, right. But on the

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Speaker 1: other side of it, do you have a problem with

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00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: them blowing these people out of the water in general,

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Speaker 1: if in fact they can confirm that it isn't you know,

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Speaker 1: something inbound to the States or no.

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Speaker 7: So look, I mean you know the so first off,

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Speaker 7: I have a massive degree in public public administration, right,

1129
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 7: so the only thing I know is policy, and I

1130
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 7: don't know if any policy that allows for them to

1131
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 7: do it, and that's the concern. Listen, if you do

1132
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: it within the regulations of our great United States, right,

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 7: the Constitution, and you do what it's constitutionally appropriate, I

1134
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 7: have no problem. But not being from this country does

1135
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 7: not mean you don't have those same inalienable rights. Right.

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00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 7: That's why our founder fathers came up with that document

1137
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 7: to say, Hey, this isn't just for the people in

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00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 7: the United States, this is for all people. So blowing

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 7: somebody up in the middle of the water without giving

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00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 7: them a trial, yeah, that rubs me the wrong way,

1141
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 7: the same way as is right somebody where it's down

1142
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 7: the street and do something nefarious to somebody related to you, right,

1143
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 7: because to me, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I absolutely do. I get it. I

1145
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: get it, and I appreciate the perspective and what you bring.

1146
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I hope you'll call again. I appreciate you the kind

1147
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: words and listening into a great perspective. Kevin. I hope

1148
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: you have a fantastic night you too. Merry Christmas, Happy

1149
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: holidays to you as well. Christmas time is here for sure,

1150
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: your chance to get interactive on this and other stuff

1151
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: coming up as well. Dev Shapiro Gidadeal dot comm gonna

1152
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: join us, talk about saving money for you and yours

1153
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,959
Speaker 1: and the deals still left for Cyber weekend, whatever else

1154
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: between now and Christmas time and Hanukkah and Kwanza and

1155
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: whatever makes you happy in these United States, It's a

1156
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Thursday Sterling Crosstown shootout. Tomorrow night, bear Cats, Musketeers sentas

1157
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: and here on the nation station comes Sunday. What else

1158
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: Bengals bills from Buffalo one o'clock, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.

1159
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: There we go, one final hour to get going to

1160
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Speaker 1: spend this fine Thursday night. Kevin Gordon, America's trucking network

1161
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: in the distance getting warmed up after midnight, kind enough

1162
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: to give us some time sterling hanging out here. Dev Shapiro,

1163
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: it's been way too long, close to a year from

1164
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Speaker 1: godadeal dot com. Welcome back to the big One. How

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01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: are you. How's a holiday season treating you?

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01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: I have no complaints. We're supposed to connect. I think

1168
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Speaker 1: it was last week and you were You're in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know, you were in the midst

1170
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: of like some serious like thunderstorm action. We were thinking

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: snow and you were dealing with a different type of

1172
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: storm scenario. So you survive.

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Speaker 2: Problem, Yeah, no problem.

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Speaker 6: Probably about two miles away from my house, another house

1175
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 6: was struck by lightning calm fire. Luckily didn't do too

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01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 6: much damage. But yeah, I'm in Texas, so you know,

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Speaker 6: the weather gets crazy. It's forty degrees here right now,

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Speaker 6: but you know, supposed to warm up later next week.

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Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Forty Almost sounds warm me right now, but I'm whining.

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I complain if it's too hot. I complain if it's

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Speaker 1: too cold. I mean, I got problems, as you know.

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Speaker 1: Def Shapiro from gotadal dot com was sterling on the

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Speaker 1: big one. All right, So here we are. We are

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Speaker 1: in full on cyber week mode. You've been through Cyber Monday,

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: You've been through the Black Friday Deal. You know, people

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Speaker 1: may still have in their memory those times when people

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01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: would be looking for leaked ads that you were willing

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Speaker 1: and able to share with the masses, which is I

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Speaker 1: think how we initially started talking. Because you would get

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Speaker 1: copies of these things in one way or another, which

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these companies leaked the ads

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Speaker 1: at the time. Early but it was back when people

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Speaker 1: were waiting online at these stores often Thanksgiving Day, ditching

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01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: out on meals, maybe even having catered meals in some

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Speaker 1: cases outside of a pick a store type of scenario.

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Speaker 1: But it's a different world we're living in now. How

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Speaker 1: is the business now? With some retailers stocking up before

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Speaker 1: some of the tariffs kicked in or before or they

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Speaker 1: were changed or yanked away or were never necessarily enacted

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Speaker 1: though they were talked about. Uh, because prices have been

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Speaker 1: so high with inflation. A lot of different types of

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: pressures in regard to inflation, and I'm always looking to

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Speaker 1: save money. Is waiting better or no?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think with the tariff situation, you know

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 6: there are some issues out there, But you know, I've

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Speaker 6: been monitoring the big box retailers and they've not really

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01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 6: had too much problem with stock issues or anything. I

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 6: think Walmart, Best Buy, Costco, those big retailers in your area,

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Speaker 6: I think they did a pretty good job of stalking up.

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of the overseas factories we're

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Speaker 6: very preemptive of sending a lot of stock here to

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Speaker 6: the States. I've not seen much, but I've also too

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Speaker 6: seen some of the deals that are not really there,

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Speaker 6: you know. I mean there's some of like the deep

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Speaker 6: cuts on the TV has not really been there this year,

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Speaker 6: But on other you know items, there's been some really

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Speaker 6: good deals. So it's a lot of a hit and mess.

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Speaker 1: Def Shapiro from Got to Deal Tom was stirling on

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Speaker 1: the big one. So what are the product sectors you mentioned?

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Television's electronics, that's always this sort of thing leading into

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01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: say Super Bowl, which of course is a little ways

1223
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: away yet, but that and a lot of college hoops

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: and just in general it's the gift given season a

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01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: lot of people look to do it. So any particular

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Speaker 1: product sector that seems to be the most tantalizing with

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Speaker 1: deals or is that one of those that it depends

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Speaker 1: on the retailer as much as it does the product sector.

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Speaker 2: Depends on the retailer.

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Speaker 6: And you know, as you said opening the segment up,

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Speaker 6: we're in the middle Cyber Week, Cyber Monday. I think

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Speaker 6: you're going to start seeing a lot more deep, deep

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Speaker 6: discounts coming out next week. We got Honkkah starting in

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Speaker 6: about ten days, so we got you know, our Jewish

1235
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Speaker 6: friends and relatives that are going to be celebrating that

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Speaker 6: so I think a lot of the retailers are going

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Speaker 6: to start slashing prices for that, and then I think

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Speaker 6: the retailers are going to get panicted nervous towards the

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 6: big day towards Christmas. So I think you're going to

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 6: see a lot more sales coming about and coming online.

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Speaker 6: And that's kind of the beauty of where we are

1242
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: right now in the world. Everything's so electronic, so they

1243
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 6: could just decide at the last minute to you know, hey,

1244
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: we're going to discount this this product line or you know,

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01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 6: this section of products that we have. I'm like, way

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 6: back in the day when you and I started, you

1247
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 6: would have to you know, plan it, print an AD

1248
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Speaker 6: and stuff like that. I think with the retailers, they're

1249
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: going to just you know, flip on and flip off

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Speaker 6: the switch.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a strange thing. Time changes everything. Talking to

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Speaker 1: Desha Biro fromgodadeal dot com, so what about this thing?

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Speaker 1: And when I was I work in the automotive industry

1254
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: a little bit too, and they were just coming into

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Speaker 1: the front end at that time of sort of pricing

1256
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: for a marketplace, so you could see automatically what the

1257
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: other competitors ad and where you were and sort of

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01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: find you know, that price. And now we see in

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Speaker 1: other forms of retail that sometimes if they noticed that

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01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: you've been looking on one device or another and they're

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Speaker 1: tracking you, depending that prices may vary from me to

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Speaker 1: my neighbor because of what we've bought previously in how

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: we're shopping. How much does that play into this compared

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01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: to going into the store and just seeing what's on

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: the shelves, and so many of us are just waiting

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: for somebody to drop it off and hope to not

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Speaker 1: be victimized by a porch pirate.

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Speaker 2: You know, it plays a lot.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, I always tell people, and I've

1270
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 6: told people this for many years now. You know, intelligence

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Speaker 6: and information is more valuable than gold. So as you're

1272
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 6: surfing the internet, on Facebook, on the socials, on the

1273
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 6: Gram and stuff like that, you know these companies are

1274
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 6: tracking you. They're tracking you know, your habits and stuff.

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of retaillers have that technology.

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 6: I know Walmart does, I know target desk to where

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 6: they may give you an extra discount. I'll give you

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01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 6: a great example. There was a book on Yiddish New York.

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Speaker 2: You know New York.

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Speaker 6: Yiddish back in the you know, back in the day,

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Speaker 6: and I've been looking at this book. It's it was

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Speaker 6: in my favorites list. It went from you know, I

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Speaker 6: think it went from like forty dollars to thirty and

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Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, I get a message from

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Speaker 6: Amazon saying, hey, I there's a fifteen dollars off coupon

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Speaker 6: you need to use in the next four hours. So

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Speaker 6: I was able to get that book for a very

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Speaker 6: very reasonable price. But you know, these these companies, you know,

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Speaker 6: collect information on you, and and you know, I always

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Speaker 6: tell people that, you know, Google knows when you're sick,

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Speaker 6: and knows when you have cancer and stuff like that,

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Speaker 6: or when you're going to get a divorce before even

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Speaker 6: your spouse does or your significant other, because everything's all

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 6: on that computer and you search stuff, and you so

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 6: the retailers know where the market staff and where to like,

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01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: you know, take a hit on some items just to

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Speaker 6: get you in there and to buy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now you're just talking to our cybersecurity expert. A little earlier,

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Speaker 1: Dave had into now talking to Dev Shapiro, And it's

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Speaker 1: funny how all of these type of topics in conversation

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Speaker 1: that we've been touching on are somewhat interrelated. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to be the profit of doom dev but

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01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: you said something quite interesting. So because they know what

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 1: we're looking at, what we're reading, and all the things

1305
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: that go in with AI, they know what you're sick of,

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: or whether you're researching because of a family member or

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: whatever else. It's very much in our business and aware

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Speaker 1: of our lifestyle situation and where we are and catering

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Speaker 1: to us. On one hand, there's a benefit. But on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, if they know that you're in desperate

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 1: need of something, supply demand says that it has more

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Speaker 1: value than they can obviously put the screws to you,

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Speaker 1: rightly or wrongly. How much does that play into the

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Speaker 1: retail game?

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Speaker 6: That plays a lot into the retail game, because the

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01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 6: whole thing about our retailer is they want to get

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Speaker 6: you in the door, whether it be in the cyber

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01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 6: door of surfing their website or in the door physically.

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Speaker 6: And like I said, with that book on Yidish New York, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's a very specialized book. But when I

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Speaker 6: bought it, I also too bought a few more iems

1322
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 6: because I was like well, well I'm here. I'll just

1323
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 6: you know, put several stuff from my card and I

1324
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 6: was looking for a Stax Christmas album that I wanted,

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 6: so I paid full retail for that, and there was

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Speaker 6: a few other things I needed for the house. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: so besides buying the Yiddish book, I got several other

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Speaker 6: things that I paid almost close to full retail for.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it did their job. It did the

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Speaker 6: job that they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of words in our regular everyday you know

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01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: slang laden American lexicon of English as such that it

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Speaker 1: is where there are Yiddish words that are everyday thing.

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like a fantastic read. And our families

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Speaker 1: are both sort of mixed up a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: love Christmas, I love Hanukah, I love all the holidays

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Speaker 1: in general. Pick one and I embrace it. So's it's

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Now I'm like, man, I need to get

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Speaker 1: that book.

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Speaker 6: We also do have Quansa as well, and our friends

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 6: that celebrate Kwansa, So you know, December is a really

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 6: interesting and fun time just to celebrate everything that we

1344
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 6: we love, celebrate our friends and our family, and that's.

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Speaker 2: Really what the holidays is about.

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Speaker 6: And you know that's what gift giving is about too,

1347
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 6: is you know, getting something special for that friend that

1348
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 6: you know, modeor lawn when we are on vacation, or

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 6: you know, our significant other or whatnot. That's what's all

1350
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Speaker 6: about here.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: I have two things here. One is we've discussed this before,

1353
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,919
Speaker 1: the fear of missing out, and it's a powerful feeling.

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01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: We are viscerally affected and controlled by our pleasure and

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: pain and the pain associated with missing out. Whether it's

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: that one gadget toy, whatever it is that the kids

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: may want that we love and wanted to make happy,

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: or whether it's that idea of missing out on the

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Speaker 1: best deal. If someone's you know, obviously, if it's a

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Speaker 1: limited items for some reason this season, whatever the particular

1361
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: toy or whatever device it is, you want to get

1362
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: it because if it's in short supply, then you're stuck

1363
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: and it's gone correct correct.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not really seeing anything in short supply. It's

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 6: not like the Elmo dolls or the Cavish fash dolls

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Speaker 6: that our parents fought for. You know, I'm not seeing

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Speaker 6: any of that short supplies. You know, I haven't seen

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Speaker 6: in several years. Maybe there's that one particular toy. You know,

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Speaker 6: I'm a forty six year old single guy, so I

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Speaker 6: don't have kids and I don't buy for kids. But

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Speaker 6: you know all of our you know, we don't have

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Speaker 6: any kids in our family. But you have not seen

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Speaker 6: anything in like short supply or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: What do you tell someone who is of the opinion

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Speaker 1: that maybe it will turn a week from now to

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Speaker 1: two weeks from now, leading closer to Christmas in the

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Speaker 1: midst of Hannah at that point you mentioned Kwanza even

1378
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: if you're just you know, against the holidays but want

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: to save a dollar, what do you tell someone to

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: get something now? Can you go back to a retailer

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you discounted it more. Can you get

1382
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: the difference or is it just you got it when

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01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: you got it, so suck it up and deal with it.

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's you got it when you got it.

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Speaker 6: So a lot of these retailers have clauses in their

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Speaker 6: return policy and their price matching policy that they do not,

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Speaker 6: you know, do any of that price matching during the holidays.

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 2: You know, if it's.

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Speaker 6: Something that you really want or you really want to

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 6: give you know, whoever that gift, I would go ahead

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01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: and get it pulled the trigger because that joy you're

1392
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 6: going to have given it to that person and seeing

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 6: their reaction is going to stay with you for the

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 6: rest of your life. But you can also too go

1395
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 6: to godideil dot com. So we have a message board

1396
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 6: there that if you're looking for a particular item, you

1397
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 6: can say, hey, I'm looking for this grill or I'm

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 6: looking for a book, or looking for something, where can

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 6: I find it the best price? And we have people

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 6: that will jump on every day, people that will jump

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01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 6: on and help you find that item at the good

1402
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 6: best price possible. And that's what the beauty of goodideil

1403
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 6: dot com and has been for the last twenty plus years.

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: What have I not asked that you think is relevant

1405
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: to was somebody looking to find that best deals kind

1406
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: of scenario? Because even you may be loaded, I mean,

1407
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: but I always want to I want to say.

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 6: Well, you know, you may be loaded, or somebody may

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 6: be loaded, but some of the richest people in the

1410
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 6: world they you know, look at Warren Buffett. He goes

1411
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 6: to McDonald's and he uses coupons of McDonald's. So It's

1412
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 6: all about how you be smart with your money. But

1413
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,440
Speaker 6: the biggest thing I've been telling friends.

1414
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 2: And families look local.

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 6: You know, we talk about tariffs and stuff like that,

1416
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 6: and we've kind of talked about this in the past,

1417
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 6: but look at local, local gift shops, local businesses. They're

1418
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 6: suffering too, and they need to be able to put

1419
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 6: food on the table and close on their body. But

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01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 6: you know there's also two. You know, your local sporting

1421
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 6: teams will have deals in their pro shops, but also

1422
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 6: two for tickets for you know, the following sporting year.

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 6: Museums have a lot of great deals. You know, workout

1424
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 6: facilities like the JCC here in Dallas and a lot

1425
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 6: of the jccs around the Jewish Community centers around America

1426
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 6: that are having Cyber Week specials on discount of membership.

1427
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 6: So there's a lot you can do if you shop local.

1428
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 6: You don't have to shop at the big buck stores.

1429
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:45,839
Speaker 2: Local.

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 6: You know, this is how our economy runs as local businesses,

1431
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 6: and we need to keep those folks and you know

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Speaker 6: in business now.

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Speaker 1: I mean they are the largest employer in the engine

1434
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: to this economy. There is no question friends neighbors, So

1435
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: it's all about keeping up money moving around and whether

1436
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: it's restaurants or gift shops of one type or another,

1437
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: something specialty or even the you know, the deli or

1438
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: the bakery around the corner. Got a deal, said Dev

1439
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: Shapiro was sterling on seven hundred WLW. I want to

1440
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: switch gear. So I think we've covered some stuff and

1441
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: we've always discussed off the air about maybe doing something

1442
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: on the youre talking about filmfest stuff, and you travel

1443
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: around in the film industry in one way or another.

1444
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious, are you ever or have you

1445
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: ever made it to Cincinnati for the Cincinnati Film Fest?

1446
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: Are you considering this? Is it possible that you can

1447
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: do it twenty six?

1448
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: Well, that is next that is on my list next year.

1449
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 6: I mean I always wanted to come to your area

1450
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 6: for nothing but great things about your lovely city, and

1451
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 6: so that is a goal next year. And I'd love

1452
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 6: to come and to let to meet you in person.

1453
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 6: Maybe we could talk about films in person.

1454
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Anything else I haven't asked or

1455
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: about film stuff. Anything you got. This is your time,

1456
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you making it, and uh, you know,

1457
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: I just you're just a good guy, and you've always

1458
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: made yourself available and I have great information your good egg.

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 6: But I really do appreciate it. I would say, you know,

1460
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 6: you know, just shop around. I mean, the biggest thing

1461
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 6: that I would tell people is know what you're.

1462
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: Going to buy. Do your research.

1463
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 6: You know, we have the Google machine and Reddit and

1464
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 6: gottideal dot com. So know what you're going to buy.

1465
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 6: Do do research on prices and you know, price history,

1466
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 6: and that's the best way you can arm yourself against

1467
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 6: getting cheated or getting scammed. Also to just you know,

1468
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 6: change your passwords to your you know, shopping accounts, making

1469
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 6: sure your credit cards are up to date on those

1470
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 6: shopping accounts. You know, just be you know, the holidays,

1471
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 6: we get in such a big rush, and this kind

1472
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 6: of goes with your cybersecurity. Guys, you'll agree with me.

1473
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 6: Just just be careful, don't click on any links you

1474
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 6: see if it's too good to be true. It is

1475
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 6: too good to be true ninety nine point nine percent times.

1476
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 6: But yeah, just keep on the lookout for deals and

1477
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 6: shop local. I am finding a lot of good deals

1478
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 6: locally on bicycles and you know, hand crafted items and

1479
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 6: stuff that you know that it's just as cool as

1480
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 6: a big screen TV. I think with all the years

1481
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 6: you and I have talked, you know, Black Friday, I

1482
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 6: think all of us have enough TVs in our house

1483
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 6: and we don't need any more TVs where we're gonna

1484
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 6: put them, right.

1485
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I have a wall or two there

1486
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: might be open, so we'll just see exactly how that goes.

1487
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: Got adeal dot com you can find out more about

1488
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: saving and it's selling. Filmnews dot com two, which is

1489
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: the other site with the combination of all kinds of stuff, right.

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, we have selicfilmnews dot com where we do film

1491
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 6: reviews and we cover film festival coverage. And then we

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Speaker 6: also too have seleakfilm News on YouTube where we have

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Speaker 6: Larry King style sit down interviews with all of these

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Speaker 6: wonderful independent filmmakers. A lot of great films came out

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Speaker 6: this year and there's a lot of creative energy. There's

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Speaker 6: a good sit down interview with Rippincindar for Flight one

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Speaker 6: eighty two, which is a short film narrative short film

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Speaker 6: about the Flight one eighty two disaster nineteen eighty five,

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Speaker 6: who the filmmaker Ripping has a close Hi's family ties.

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Speaker 6: It but just a lot of great stuff out there,

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Speaker 6: a lot of great movies on these streaming services this

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Speaker 6: holiday season, so you know, catch a movie and does

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Speaker 6: not catch a movie in person, because he's theaters did

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Speaker 6: your business as.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's true. An that big thing of popcorn and

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Speaker 1: a super sized doctor Pepper. So I have to get

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Speaker 1: my own catheter as a part of it. Consis you

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. You get like a gallon of soda

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01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and then you get a two

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: and a half hour movie. It's it's tough when you

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Speaker 1: get to be a guy of a certain age, don't you.

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Speaker 6: It is and you say dr Pepper, you're from Texas.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's a Texas drink. Dr Pepper.

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Speaker 1: I mean I liked Texas, but no, I've not never

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: yet had a chance to call it home. I appreciate

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01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: you making time. We're dead out of it though, Deb

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Speaker 1: Shapiro gotadeal dot com. Take care of yourself and we'll

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: catch up again sooner than later.

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Speaker 2: My man, you too, Happy holidays.

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: Happy holidays, more Sterling coming back. Sorry I'm a little

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01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: bit late. Don't hate me. Eleven't third report straight away

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Speaker 1: seven hundred wlw L after along Sterling hanging out by

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Speaker 1: Thursday night at Nation Station seven hundred WLW. Dan Carol

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Speaker 1: often here this time, but he was a during the day,

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Speaker 1: so I'm here now back again Friday night. That's tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: following Crosstown shootout basketball bear Cats Musketeers at Sentas seven

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01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: thirty tip off. I will follow it here. Talk to

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: Terry Nelson, earlier basketball bear Cat broadcaster. He does a

1529
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: little of everything. He was there for the final four

1530
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: for those bear Cats in the early nineties. Always a

1531
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: great conversation. Listen to the podcast later about that. Dave

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Speaker 1: Hatter of course cybersecurity joining Dev Shapiro looking for deals

1533
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: from godadeal dot com. All that after the podcast posts

1534
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: following the show leading into America's Truck of Network, which

1535
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: follows me with Kevin Gordon behind the wheel. Appreciate you

1536
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: being along. It's been a wild night. Anderson's raptors fell unfortunately,

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: unless you're an Avon Eagles fan. And actually I think

1538
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: an eagle was actually a raptor too, right, It's a

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01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: different type of killer bird. I know that my mother

1540
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: is watching multiple eagles nests now in Australia as well

1541
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: as here in the United States. As these birds either

1542
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: taking care of babies or otherwise. But Avon thirty seven,

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: Anderson twenty and just an incredible year all the way

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01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: around for Anderson as well. But the congratulations to Avon

1545
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: for doing what they did tonight Saint X and all

1546
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: in Tangy Orange tomorrow night looking for Ohio State High

1547
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: school football championship that starts earlier. So what have results

1548
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: for that if not during the crossdown shootouts? Certainly following

1549
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 1: what else tonight? Oh Thursday night football, Cowboys fall thirty

1550
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: forty four, Lions all over them up in Destois or Detroit,

1551
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: depending But it was a French name, Dytoa, That's what

1552
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: they called it. Just so you know, not that I'm

1553
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: like mister French, although I did take French in high

1554
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: school at one of my five high schools, and I

1555
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: did not retain much. What I have you can't really

1556
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: say openly because it's probably bad words. I just know

1557
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: that my French teacher was mochen Hot and I was

1558
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: distracted way too much.

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Speaker 2: Either way.

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01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: Lions now seven and five and Cowboys I think six

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: and five, so a great game earlier if they had

1562
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: a chance to check that out. Let's see what else.

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: Oh uh, I want to. You know, there's always talk,

1564
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the wonder our Olympics are coming up, and

1565
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: I am always interested in the new sports, the new activities,

1566
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: the new endeavors of competition that are brought into the fold,

1567
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: often their exhibition sports or activities or competitions, and then

1568
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: the ones that are really successful they sort of bring

1569
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: into the fold. They did that with snowboarding and a

1570
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff in relation to that too. I

1571
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: don't know that this will ever get there, but I

1572
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: am enamored by this. I have never heard of this

1573
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you, and I find it

1574
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: interesting beyond no compare. I like the water, I like

1575
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 1: the sea, I like the I like to eat fish.

1576
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: I like to scuba dive. I've gone diving and actually

1577
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: caught my own lobster who grabbed it actually, which seemed

1578
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: really weird, but it was tasty after, so you know,

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. And done some fishing that

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: way as well. This is wild chess event underground. A

1581
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Neeman. He's an American and

1582
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: his name's Hans Neeman. He yesterday won the underwater chess

1583
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: exhibition at the freestyle Chess Grand Slam Finals in Cape Town,

1584
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:44,879
Speaker 1: South Africa, where the world's top tier players have gathered

1585
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: before this big event. They call it diving chess. It

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01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: was created or devised at some point. I'm sure someone

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01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: had done it someplace else at some time, but back

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01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve by an inventor by the name of

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: ETN Illfield or Illfeld in London, who is the guy

1590
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: behind mind Sports Olympiad apparently, and this is from Reuters.

1591
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of different events or whatever else. Now,

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01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: if you've done some swimming, whether it's in the summertime,

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01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: or maybe you go to the y or belong to

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01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: a club, or you got an indoor pool, some high

1595
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: schools certainly do. I have friends that have been competitive

1596
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: swimmers and so forth. I remember going to a lore

1597
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: center and Dayton when I was a kid coming up,

1598
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: hanging out with my cousins, and we would throw coins,

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Speaker 1: and they had these other weighted items they would toss

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Speaker 1: into the pool, and then we would spend time going

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Speaker 1: down and retrieving them and trying not to get stuck

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01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: in the drain, which occasionally hear horrible stories about. It

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: never occurred to me that I would play a board

1604
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: game under the water in the pool. I kind of

1605
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 1: see this as maybe being a pay per view event.

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01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I may be kind of crazy, but

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01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like all the other things, it could

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01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: be brought into the fold that you could do underwater.

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people got married underwater.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: They used to have the idea a couple of locations

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01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: they You even do a search on YouTube or whatever

1613
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: old films of the people with these hotels where you

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: would be underwater in an area where obviously there was

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01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: air that was enclosed, but you could get out and

1616
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: do other stuff, and you'd see people do things. This

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: is wild. There is a raining World Diving Chess Champion

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01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 1: by the name of mcl Masquerades. It was there but

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01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: only as an advisor in the midst of this. If

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01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: these guys were playing chess matches can take a long time,

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01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: my guess is they were able to like dive down.

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01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: Because I haven't seen the video, I've just seen still

1623
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 1: photos of this. You see the chess board with the

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: timer like clicker on the floor the bottom of the

1625
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: pool and someone just diving down. They make their move.

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 1: I guess they come up, get air. The next player

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01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: comes down, and I'm guessing they give them maybe a

1628
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: little bit more time to sort of figure it out.

1629
01:22:55,120 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: But players from all over the world. Is Bekastan, I mean,

1630
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: it's an odd place, but from there in India and

1631
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of other places, Germany and so forth, or

1632
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: into this. So perhaps there's a future in underwater chess.

1633
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: When I went to write State, I took rocks for

1634
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Jocks who was geology. I had a choice of the sciences.

1635
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I could have taken biology or chemistry, but I'd done

1636
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: that in high school. I went for the underwater basket

1637
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: weaving that was one of mine in radio and then

1638
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: some other stuff. But it never occurred to me that

1639
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 1: you could do chess underwater. That's pretty wild. I'm just

1640
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: wondering would that be something you'd watch? And I would

1641
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: imagine you could wager on that. I mean, you can

1642
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: bet on all sorts of stuff. I don't know how

1643
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: above board all of it is. And you know, you

1644
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: hear about all these corruption of different things in one

1645
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: type or another, But I mean, I find this oddly

1646
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: interesting in gauwker type of like the behavior and so forth,

1647
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: compared to some of the other stuff that's out there.

1648
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: This is good. You can you know, you can wager

1649
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: on like table tennis, don't call it ping pong. The

1650
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: table tennis players of the world that are serious about

1651
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: this don't like it when you somehow like lower it

1652
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: to a level of what we may do in our

1653
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: basement or maybe in like you know, the garage or

1654
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: whatever else that you if you're into the ping pong,

1655
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: or at least you call it the ping pong, they

1656
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: frown on that. They think it's somehow demeaning or somehow

1657
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: not top notch. I mean, I could play checkers maybe competitively.

1658
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: Chess not so much. I mean in multi layered chess anyway,

1659
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: not for me, but regular chess maybe I could get by.

1660
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 1: But then you got to hold your breath and you've

1661
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: got to maintain your you know, your level, to stay

1662
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the pool, make the move and

1663
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: come back up, and keep it all in your head.

1664
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: A lot of different wheels moving all at the same time,

1665
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: which seems maybe a little bit beyond my capabilities. But

1666
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: maybe there could be a future in it. Could be

1667
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 1: it could be one of those trial sports exhibitions in future,

1668
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: if they were ever going to bring it into it,

1669
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: and apparently they already have the Chess end of it altogether.

1670
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: So there is that at Sterling Radio one X. If

1671
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: you want to get interactive, you can certainly do that.

1672
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: Do you remember the movie it? I know there's like

1673
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: what is a dairy deal or whatever? I think, I

1674
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: don't know, one of the streaming things. I know it's

1675
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: in my list now. It's like an episodic thing about

1676
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: that whole thing that started out as a Stephen King

1677
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: novel if I'm not mistaken, and then has gone into

1678
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: multiple iterations. Subsequently, there's a guy who was convicted of

1679
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 1: wearing a clown mask, which creeps a lot of people

1680
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: out for a whole host of reasons. Crown clowns are

1681
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: generally just creepy and make me uncomfortable and unnerved in general.

1682
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: And it might go back to my time going to

1683
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: the circus as a kid and having them like run

1684
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: up on me in my grill, in my face, and

1685
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to get away. And you see

1686
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: kids sometimes and they get in that close proximity. Things

1687
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: are way different in the way you interact. And this

1688
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: story out of Albany, New York, or at least nearby

1689
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: All County, not far from where the Bengals will be

1690
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: playing the Bills sooner than not in Buffalo, much shorter

1691
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: drive than here. There's a guy thirty five years old

1692
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: who was found guilty of first degree menacing, third degree

1693
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: criminal possession of a weapon going back to the first

1694
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: of May. He was sentenced for February sixth, apparently is

1695
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: when that hearing is going to be. We'll see how

1696
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: long he goes away, could be up to seven years.

1697
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: In the lock up, he had a chainsaw and he

1698
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: was wearing a clown mask, which is just creepy and

1699
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and apparently was menacing people, very threatening and involved

1700
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: in some type of near fisticuff's kind of engagement with

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01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: somebody else. He wore that to clown mask. He had

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01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: a football jersey on in a red chainsaw in the

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01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: middle of the afternoon, which apparently he was engaging people

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01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: or people were like, hey, dude, what are you doing.

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01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: He also apparently supposedly had metal knuckles in some other stuff,

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 1: which is pretty disturbing, and took off the plastic sheath

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: from one of a better way to describe it, off

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: of the blade of the chainsaw and then you know,

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01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: it was quite threatening, and if you've ever worked with

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01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: the chainsaw, you know it does quick work of like

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: trees and stumps and stuff like that. My guess is,

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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, wielding that in general is not a good idea.

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember it wasn't that long ago. It

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01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: was like a pitchfork that was used in crime somewhere

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: in the Try State. I remember talking about it, and

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: then there was somebody else that had like a machete.

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: And occasionally you hear about these lunatics that use these

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01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,440
Speaker 1: old school weapons to engage each other. You know, knifings

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01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: are back too, people getting stabbed, But you don't hear

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01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 1: much about the way of clowns carrying chainsaws, thankfully, because

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01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: sleeping is hard enough to dream about a creepy clown

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: with the chain saw chasing people through the streets. Better

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01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: in New York than here, and certainly better the guys

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01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: locked up and looking to go away for at least

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01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: two years, but could go away for much longer than that.

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01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty wild. That's all I have to say

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01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: about that. Straight away, your a midnight report. We'll see

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01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: if it's another tandem tag team news event. Travis Laird,

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01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe Lee Mallen. I don't know who's got next. Maybe

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01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: they'll do it together as they did just at the

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: top of the or the bottom of the hour following

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01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: the news. You know Joe Waddell is gonna keep us

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01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: on time and online. Appreciate his help. Then you get

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: to Kevin Gordon, an America's truck and network warmed up,

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01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: ready to roll after midnight. I'm sterling back again tomorrow

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01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 1: following Crosstown shootout Bearcats Musketeers. Right here tip off seven

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01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: point thirty Nation Station or the Who Day plays Sunday

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati