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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord along with Ring of Honor inductee Dave Lapham.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, much appreciated folks.
Speaker 2: We are going to be here for the next two
Speaker 2: hours tonight, getting you set for a Sunday's home game
Speaker 2: between the Bengals and the Chicago Bears. We will be
Speaker 2: joined momentarily by rookie linebacker Barrett Carter out of Clemson,
Speaker 2: who has already moved into the Bengals starting lineup. Two
Speaker 2: rookies starting at linebacker with Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight.
Speaker 4: The future is now, I guess at the linebacker position,
Speaker 4: and Al Golden you know, made that call. He feels
Speaker 4: confident in both of these young players that they understand
Speaker 4: what he is trying to teach. They understand the techniques
Speaker 4: from fundamentals that he's trying to teach, as well as
Speaker 4: the assignments where to be, when to be there, how
Speaker 4: to get there, everything that goes along with it out.
Speaker 3: In the football field.
Speaker 4: And he feels like these young athletic linebackers will make
Speaker 4: his defensive football team faster, more athletic, and a bigger
Speaker 4: challenge for posing teams to block.
Speaker 2: The Bengals looking to bounce back on Sunday from a
Speaker 2: bitterly disappointing loss last Sunday to the New York Jets.
Speaker 2: The Bengals led by ten at the end of the
Speaker 2: first quarter, eleven at the end of the second quarter,
Speaker 2: fifteen at the end of the third quarter. The lead
Speaker 2: kept getting bigger and then unfortunately at the end of
Speaker 2: the game, it slipped through their fingers and they lost
Speaker 2: by a point to a team that now has one win.
Speaker 4: It was frustrating. I mean, you know, grind your teeth,
Speaker 4: grit your teeth kind of football game zero and seven
Speaker 4: football team, Like you said, you know, they've been in games.
Speaker 4: It's not like they were blown out seven times. They've
Speaker 4: been in football games. They're not a terrible football team.
Speaker 4: They're a solid football team. But they just had not
Speaker 4: figured out a way to close games out and get
Speaker 4: games in the victory column. But they did at pay Corps.
Speaker 4: They got in the victory calumn for the first time.
Speaker 4: And I think it was more of what the Bengals
Speaker 4: didn't do, you know, to finish the football game. Like
Speaker 4: you said, Dan, you're a fifteen point in the fourth,
Speaker 4: fifteen point lead in the fourth quarter. You got to
Speaker 4: win that football game. You got to close that thing out.
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to make a make a play,
Speaker 4: a final some kind of a play that will put
Speaker 4: the knife and the dagger in the back of the opponent,
Speaker 4: you know, and and just quiet them. But hey, you know,
Speaker 4: you get to credit the New York Jets. They did
Speaker 4: what it took to win a football game. They felt
Speaker 4: like they had to. I mean, their season talk about
Speaker 4: season on the brink, as that old show says, that's
Speaker 4: what was going on with the New York Jets, and
Speaker 4: they felt a definite sense of urgency, a definite sense
Speaker 4: of you know, one and done, we got to get
Speaker 4: this done. They approached it, I would think probably like
Speaker 4: a playoff game. You know, during the course of the week,
Speaker 4: the installation part of it, and then travel and take
Speaker 4: care of yourself before the game, get plenty of rest,
Speaker 4: get up and give it the best effort you can
Speaker 4: give on Sunday and try to come home with a victory.
Speaker 2: Other than the last two minutes of the game. How
Speaker 2: is your Ring of Honor Week spectacular?
Speaker 3: It was really good.
Speaker 4: It was tremendous, so much fun, and you know, the
Speaker 4: ones that I wanted to try to get to enjoy
Speaker 4: it as much as they possibly could, with the grandchildren,
Speaker 4: you know, because there they'll never forget that, They'll never
Speaker 4: forget coming to Cincinnati and spending time with everybody. A
Speaker 4: lot of people that they don't see. People came in
Speaker 4: from California, Arizona, New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, fromont Connecticut, Maine.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a quite a gathering. So they
Speaker 4: saw people that they hadn't seen for a while, and
Speaker 4: then they saw other people they had never seen before,
Speaker 4: so it was good to expose them to that, and
Speaker 4: they all had a grand time.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt.
Speaker 2: Now, if I won the Masters, Yeah, and I had
Speaker 2: that green jacket, I'd be wearing it everywhere. I'd be
Speaker 2: showing up at McDonald's in my Master's jacket. Where is
Speaker 2: your ring of honor jacket?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's tucked away in my closet, safe
Speaker 4: and sound. It really is. It's such an honor to
Speaker 4: get that jacket. A lot of work went into that
Speaker 4: bad boy.
Speaker 5: No doubt.
Speaker 4: When I take a look at it, it's like a
Speaker 4: lot of blood, sweat and tears.
Speaker 3: You know, we're.
Speaker 4: Poured out to get that jacket. So it is definitely
Speaker 4: definitely an honor, you know, to have my teammates and
Speaker 4: my family celebrated with me.
Speaker 3: Was be on words.
Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome our special guest tonight. We really
Speaker 2: have to thank them. Yes, kind of a crummy raw night,
Speaker 2: pretty long drive from pay Court Stadium, but it was
Speaker 2: one good guy and he was willing to do it
Speaker 2: a little bit. Let's welcome in number forty nine Bengals
Speaker 2: linebacker Barret Carter. Sir, all right, I guess I have
Speaker 2: to get this out of the way right off the bat.
Speaker 2: Last week's game was obviously disappointing. How do you personally
Speaker 2: put a game like that behind you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, just being truthfully honest, even if we
Speaker 6: won that game, it would have been behind me already.
Speaker 6: So you gotta treat wins and losses the same. Now,
Speaker 6: I'm I'm such a competitor and I'm not even gonna
Speaker 6: like I'm hurt by that game. But you know, as
Speaker 6: a leader on this team, a growing leader on this team,
Speaker 6: like the guys are going to look to me to
Speaker 6: see how I respond, So I can't show up negative.
Speaker 6: I gotta flush that. Obviously correct the mistakes, but gotta
Speaker 6: flush that and move on to the Chicago and just
Speaker 6: you know, try to get to Sunday and walk out
Speaker 6: with a w.
Speaker 4: I guess the one question. I know I've been hit
Speaker 4: on social media, podcasting, all that sort of thing a
Speaker 4: lot of the fans.
Speaker 3: How what is with tackling? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Why is the team having difficulty tackling, making sure tackles
Speaker 4: in the open field, in space and getting people on
Speaker 4: the ground. What do you say to that, Barret?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's the little things.
Speaker 6: It's I promise y'all it's not a knock on our
Speaker 6: athleticism or our ability.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: We have all the talent and all the athleticism in
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 5: It's just it's the little things.
Speaker 6: It's taking better angles, it's finishing up as being the
Speaker 6: second man in helping your brother finish that tackle. So
Speaker 6: it's just a little things like that. But you know
Speaker 6: we have what we need that building to correct the
Speaker 6: mistakes and you know, move on from these mistakes.
Speaker 2: Sure, the guys on defense head of players only meeting
Speaker 2: on Monday, I wouldn't expect you to share any secrets
Speaker 2: or anything personal that came out of that meeting, But
Speaker 2: what what was the g Just what can you share?
Speaker 6: Just that like, we know we're much better than you
Speaker 6: know what we're putting on film, and like we're we
Speaker 6: have we so we hold ourselves to such a high
Speaker 6: standard and you know we all can see that we
Speaker 6: haven't you know, hit like reached that standard in game yet.
Speaker 6: So it was just a just a meeting just to
Speaker 6: get us together and just hey, like we're all we got,
Speaker 6: we're all we got in this room where we were
Speaker 6: all we we all we need. So that was just
Speaker 6: some essage and just you know, just keep working every
Speaker 6: single day, day in and day out, get one percent better.
Speaker 6: You know, come Sunday, you know it's time to dominate.
Speaker 5: Go have fun.
Speaker 6: And that's been the message, just like this is the
Speaker 6: this is our childhood dreams that we're living, that we're
Speaker 6: getting to you know, do every single day and just
Speaker 6: you know, just go out there and have fun and
Speaker 6: play this game like like it's like it's your dream,
Speaker 6: which it is.
Speaker 4: So that's all it was. Yeah, player only meetings. I've
Speaker 4: experienced those back in the playing days, and I think
Speaker 4: whenever we had them, it was because everybody cared, you know,
Speaker 4: and cared big time. Didn't want the season to you know,
Speaker 4: unfold in the wrong way. And you know, if we
Speaker 4: go off to a slow start, okay, let's let's let's meet.
Speaker 4: Let's talk this over. What do we need to do?
Speaker 4: How do we uh, how do we get on track?
Speaker 4: How do we how do we get the you know,
Speaker 4: the train rolling again on track and get it going
Speaker 4: and see if we can salvage you know, a good
Speaker 4: season out of this, uh, out of this slow start.
Speaker 4: What was what was the was the mindset similar to.
Speaker 6: That absolutely, Like like I said, like, we know what
Speaker 6: we've been putting on tape is not our identity, Like
Speaker 6: our standard is Santa Clair. And at the end of
Speaker 6: the year, we hope that we're gonna, you know, look
Speaker 6: up and you know we're gonna be under the confetti
Speaker 6: when when the time runs out, and now we know
Speaker 6: what what we've worked so hard every single day towards
Speaker 6: and we realize that we haven't accomplished that, but we're
Speaker 6: working towards that every single day. So just like you said,
Speaker 6: that was the message, and you know, we're just trying
Speaker 6: to just keep stacking days and you get better and
Speaker 6: just show up on Sunday, just.
Speaker 5: Walk out with a w every Sunday.
Speaker 2: You are eight games into your rookie season, basically halfway
Speaker 2: through the regular season of your rookie year. You're already
Speaker 2: starting started the last three games at linebacker. Did that
Speaker 2: starting role come quicker than you anticipated?
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, you did. I didn't.
Speaker 6: My My my thing is like even when I wasn't
Speaker 6: the starter, I showed up every single day like I
Speaker 6: was a starter. So when I when I was told
Speaker 6: that I was being you know, thrust it into that position,
Speaker 6: like it didn't change anything for me, Like it didn't
Speaker 6: change my preparation or anything like that. So I don't
Speaker 6: I don't really know the answer to your quest. I
Speaker 6: guess I would say, yes, it did happen earlier than expected.
Speaker 6: But it's just a blessing that I get to live
Speaker 6: my dream every single day and play in the NFL
Speaker 6: like I could be.
Speaker 5: I couldn't even touch.
Speaker 6: A few, and I was still have a smile on
Speaker 6: my face just knowing that the little version of myself
Speaker 6: is no proud so but I'm just trying to just
Speaker 6: go out there and just you know, do my part,
Speaker 6: do my one to eleven and you know, bring a
Speaker 6: w for for our fan base and for this team,
Speaker 6: and just just do my job every time.
Speaker 4: Al Golden is a is a brilliant defensive mind. I mean,
Speaker 4: the guy has got extras and those dancing in his
Speaker 4: head all day long and all night long before. I
Speaker 4: think the only time where he shots that football bring
Speaker 4: down is when he goes to bed at night and
Speaker 4: tries to catch forty winks. But he really has done
Speaker 4: a great job. He's had some great defensive football teams
Speaker 4: over the years. Most recently is most recial accomplishment taking
Speaker 4: Notre Dame to the national championship with that defense that
Speaker 4: he had, that played so extraordinarily. Well, what does Al
Speaker 4: Golden teach? What are his principles, what's his defensive mindset?
Speaker 4: What does he want his defense to do at all cost?
Speaker 6: First of all, fly around to the football and get
Speaker 6: the ball out. You know, our our message the whole
Speaker 6: season is plus two and just get the two turnout
Speaker 6: at least two turnovers. Get the ball back to our offense.
Speaker 6: You know, say, so they can go do what they do.
Speaker 6: But I actually can't say, like my favorite Al Golden
Speaker 6: quote because it has a little bit of language in it,
Speaker 6: but he basically just says like, you know, we're smart guys,
Speaker 6: but be problem solvers. Like if something is messed up,
Speaker 6: unmess it up. And that's the you know, PG.
Speaker 3: Version of the Cup.
Speaker 6: But he's just what I love about him is how
Speaker 6: calm he is on game days, Like he he truly
Speaker 6: allows us to play so free and just so clear minded,
Speaker 6: just knowing that, you know, if they do make a
Speaker 6: big player, if they do score whatever, we're gonna We're
Speaker 6: gonna come back to this online. We're not gonna freak
Speaker 6: out We're just gonna solve the problem so it doesn't
Speaker 6: happen again. So it's great that I get to play
Speaker 6: for a coach like that, and a coach truly cares
Speaker 6: about us. So we just got to you know, return
Speaker 6: the favor and you know, bring back a W for him.
Speaker 2: I know other expressions for messed up that you can't
Speaker 2: say on the radio.
Speaker 5: It's probably a good idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: For several years, Barrett, the Bengals had a really good
Speaker 2: linebacker pair in Jermaine Pratt and Logan Wilson. And now
Speaker 2: I feel like that's developing again with you and Demetrius Knight.
Speaker 2: Describe your relationship with Demetrius and how the two of
Speaker 2: you are building a bond at linebacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was so iffy about d Night because if y'all
Speaker 6: didn't know, I went to Clemson and he went to
Speaker 6: South Carolina there to rival schools, so I was a
Speaker 6: little hesitant at first. But he's grown to be my
Speaker 6: brother for life. Truthfully, he's got me although he's gotten
Speaker 6: me better at football and just learning from him, he's
Speaker 6: gotten me closer in my faith, like with God, and
Speaker 6: you know that's that's that's already a brother. But you know,
Speaker 6: we bring each other along. Like I told him, like
Speaker 6: the day I got here, like we're gonna be two
Speaker 6: greats here. Like we're gonna like there was obviously greats
Speaker 6: already here like Logan and Vonte's Bertha Jermaine product, there
Speaker 6: was grace that came before us. But like I told him, like,
Speaker 6: we're gonna be the next two greats. And that's like,
Speaker 6: that's our that's our goal every single day, like just
Speaker 6: get one percent better and we're gonna look up by
Speaker 6: the end of our careers and we're gonna hopefully bring
Speaker 6: a lot of Super Bowls back, a lot of championships
Speaker 6: and you know, a lot of hard we're back to Cincinnati,
Speaker 6: but you know we we wear that badge with pride.
Speaker 6: We're gonna be leaders and we're just gonna keep just
Speaker 6: you know, sacrificing everything we can to you know, bring
Speaker 6: bring a bring championships back to this city.
Speaker 3: Sounds good to me, how about that? Yes, sir.
Speaker 4: So you've got a uh, you got a very very
Speaker 4: high football IQ. I mean you're a smart game where
Speaker 4: you have an over all football you have an overall IQ,
Speaker 4: but you have a very very high football IQ and
Speaker 4: al Golden has mentioned that to me in conversations, like, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: Eric gets he gets football at an extremely high level.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about feeling like I've lost him.
Speaker 4: He's he's right with me, man, He's he's right on
Speaker 4: top of things.
Speaker 3: Where did that come from? What coach? At what level?
Speaker 4: Is the guy that introduced you to the game of
Speaker 4: football and got you so excited to learn the game
Speaker 4: of football like he learned it?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean I would say at first to hear him
Speaker 6: say that is crazy because how I felt every day
Speaker 6: during like OTA's like during May April May, I would
Speaker 6: go home just like wanting to pound my head against
Speaker 6: the wall.
Speaker 5: I was just so.
Speaker 6: Stressed out and I just felt like I was what's
Speaker 6: the term, like drinking.
Speaker 5: Out of a fire hose. Oh yeah, I was just stressed, overwhelm,
Speaker 5: overwhelm everything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, is my at first, as my
Speaker 6: high school coach, Bill Stewart, he just he I thought
Speaker 6: football is just about running and hitting people, Like I
Speaker 6: didn't know there was so much that went into it.
Speaker 6: And you know, being coached by him, he really just
Speaker 6: taught me like football is so much there's so much
Speaker 6: into it, Like you got to know the ins and
Speaker 6: outs as to why offenses do what they do and
Speaker 6: just things like that. So I would say Bill Stewart
Speaker 6: and then going to Clemson and playing for coach Venables
Speaker 6: for a year and then West good Win my DC,
Speaker 6: like they just taught me so much about ball. And
Speaker 6: just like I said, I thought it was just about
Speaker 6: running and hitting people, but it's so much more than that,
Speaker 6: and there's such a big mental side of it. So
Speaker 6: I'll say those three ohs for sure.
Speaker 5: All right, we are going to take a time out.
Speaker 5: When we come back.
Speaker 2: We will hear from a Bengals scout on tonight's special
Speaker 2: guest linebacker Bared Carter.
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Speaker 2: three Shady Lane. Our guest tonight is Bengals linebacker Barrett Carter.
Speaker 2: Barrett's with us until seven o'clock tonight and then Lap
Speaker 2: and I will take you the rest of the way
Speaker 2: until eight o'clock. Barrett was drafted this year out of
Speaker 2: Clemson in the fourth round. Here is Bengals scout Andrew
Speaker 2: Johnson and why the Bengals were so high on Barrett Carter.
Speaker 7: He's probably the best linebacker in the draft. He's super athletic.
Speaker 7: He can run, he can change direction, he can flip
Speaker 7: his hips, he can play sam linebacker, will linebackers. He
Speaker 7: was highly productive on special teams. He's a great kid.
Speaker 7: He's a leader. But the biggest thing he's gonna help
Speaker 7: us with day one is covering on third down. He's
Speaker 7: a phenomenal cover linebacker.
Speaker 5: Andrew Johnson clearly a fan.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're doing a lot more than just covering
Speaker 2: people on third down. You're out there on almost every
Speaker 2: down along with your fellow rookie Dimitrius Knight. You talked
Speaker 2: about kind of feeling like you're drinking out of a
Speaker 2: fire hose during OTA's in training camp.
Speaker 5: When did that change? When did you start.
Speaker 2: To feel like, Okay, this is the stuff I've been
Speaker 2: doing my whole life.
Speaker 6: I would say probably midway through fall camp. Okay, Like
Speaker 6: I have great veterans like Logan ob Joe, Shaka Muma
Speaker 6: was here, Like they just poured into us so much,
Speaker 6: and they made the transition so easy, so like, although
Speaker 6: I was struggling, like they just made the struggles so
Speaker 6: much better, like so much easier. So I would say,
Speaker 6: like like fall camp, that's when it started to slow
Speaker 6: down a little bit. And then I feel like I
Speaker 6: have a great grasp of it.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: You do and you understand multiple positions.
Speaker 4: The versatility that you provide al goal and I'm sure
Speaker 4: is extremely appreciative of. And like Johnson was talking about,
Speaker 4: you can play and Mike backer in the middle, you
Speaker 4: can play Sam over the tight end, strong side outside linebacker,
Speaker 4: will weak side outside linebacker away from the strength of
Speaker 4: the formation, away from the tight end, and you can
Speaker 4: play them all equally. Well, that's very rare. You don't
Speaker 4: find many many linebackers in the National Football League that
Speaker 4: you can play anywhere up and down the formation defensively.
Speaker 3: How prideful are you of that?
Speaker 5: Extremely?
Speaker 6: I feel like that's something that I've taken pride, taking
Speaker 6: pride in since high school. Like just being and a
Speaker 6: guy where you know, if they need me to go
Speaker 6: play offensive line, I probably couldn't play as good as our.
Speaker 3: Guys, but.
Speaker 6: Just being a guy that that can just do whatever
Speaker 6: to help the team, whatever the team needs. And you know,
Speaker 6: if the team needs me to go down and cover
Speaker 6: a tight end or do whatever, like right, I want
Speaker 6: to be the guy who can be put in that
Speaker 6: position just to help us win. So I've worn that
Speaker 6: bro with that, I've won that badge with pride for
Speaker 6: a long time, and I'm gonna I'm going to continue
Speaker 6: to do so.
Speaker 2: It's all kind of amusing because back in your high
Speaker 2: school days, when they moved you from running back to linebacker,
Speaker 2: you were ready.
Speaker 5: To quit the game.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, it was a it was a sad day
Speaker 6: in the Carter household.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: I came home.
Speaker 6: I can't remember if I cried or not, but I
Speaker 6: probably I was like mom of Dad, like I cannot
Speaker 6: do this. I'm done playing football. They're like, no, you're not.
Speaker 6: You're not done playing football. Like you're gonna that's that's
Speaker 6: where your coach moved you. You're gonna play it and
Speaker 6: then and I was like, oh, Then fast forward the
Speaker 6: next day. Literally the next day, I got my first
Speaker 6: scholarship offers, and I was like, Wow, okay, maybe maybe
Speaker 6: I'll stick to linebacker and playing defense. But that just
Speaker 6: that just shows you like the lower works mysterious ways.
Speaker 6: And you know, I really didn't, you know, believe that
Speaker 6: and see that until that happened to me. So now
Speaker 6: I've grown to love defense. I've grown a love linebacker,
Speaker 6: and I think I found my position.
Speaker 4: What year was was that when you were asked to
Speaker 4: make the transition from my running back to linebacker?
Speaker 3: And how good a running back were you? My man?
Speaker 6: That was my freshman year of high school. And I mean,
Speaker 6: if you were to tell me, or if you were
Speaker 6: to ask me, I wouldn't say I was. I was
Speaker 6: pretty good at running yet, Yeah that's I was a
Speaker 6: running back and receiver. But I guess my deep my
Speaker 6: coach saw something. He saw something m linebacker, and I
Speaker 6: guess he was right. So shout out to Bill Stewart
Speaker 6: because he saw the vision. I did not see the
Speaker 6: vision at all.
Speaker 5: I hear you at Clemson.
Speaker 2: They let you play for one play and you scored
Speaker 2: a touchdown.
Speaker 5: So your track record is good.
Speaker 6: It's just it's always in me, like if we have
Speaker 6: great backs, we got you know, Chase, Samase Taj.
Speaker 5: But I mean, hey, I.
Speaker 6: Mean if I can be that emergency running back A
Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 4: You're ready to ready to provide services always always, So
Speaker 4: a two part question when you played college football, who
Speaker 4: is the best football player? Who is the best athlete
Speaker 4: slash football player on your team? And who is the
Speaker 4: best athlete slash football player you played against.
Speaker 3: On my team?
Speaker 5: Who? Okay, I would say.
Speaker 6: On my team. His name is Nate Wiggins. He's currently
Speaker 6: a corner for the Ravens. And you know, Nate has
Speaker 6: changed a lot since his college days. But you watched
Speaker 6: Nate in college.
Speaker 5: He ate horrible.
Speaker 6: He did not work out, he didn't do anything like
Speaker 6: that you're supposed to do.
Speaker 5: I do that. What's the big deal? Hey name Nate.
Speaker 6: Goes to the combine and runs a four to two.
Speaker 6: He blows out the combine and he can natural. He's
Speaker 6: a natural. He wastes up and it's out of his
Speaker 6: sleep and can guard anybody. But so I would say
Speaker 6: on my team, Nate Wiggins. But that I played against,
Speaker 6: oh Man, that's tough. I played against some some really
Speaker 6: some really good players. I'll say Leonora Sellers from South
Speaker 6: Carolina is really good. Carson Beck was really good. I'll
Speaker 6: say those two off the top of my head.
Speaker 5: They were really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So NFL players love to do jersey swaps after games.
Speaker 2: Will you try to do that with Clemson guys or linebackers?
Speaker 2: Have you prioritized who you would like to swap with?
Speaker 6: So I actually did my first jersey swap this past
Speaker 6: game because we had a Clemson guy on the Jets
Speaker 6: payton page. So that was my first jersey swap. I
Speaker 6: didn't know what costs money, so I would not happy
Speaker 6: about that. But yeah, that did my first jersey slade.
Speaker 6: But I got my first jersey from Jordan Love after
Speaker 6: the Packers game, so it was cool just to I
Speaker 6: just went up and ask for this jersey. I didn't
Speaker 6: think he would say yes, but he said yes. And
Speaker 6: you know that's whenever I get a house, that's that's
Speaker 6: going in in the.
Speaker 5: Man cave in the basement. That's a good one.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to just I'm gonna start just trying to
Speaker 6: build a collection now and just ask for jerseys and
Speaker 6: they say no. They say no, but that's that's the
Speaker 6: worst thing they can say.
Speaker 4: So on draft day, how excited were you? How nervous
Speaker 4: were you? What was your family feeling? What was the
Speaker 4: day like when you when you woke up in one
Speaker 4: of the biggest days in anybody's life. Obviously if you're going,
Speaker 4: if you decide to decide to play football, what was
Speaker 4: it like for you? And when the Cincinnati Bengals did
Speaker 4: draft you, what was that like.
Speaker 6: It's funny because I went at the Combine at a
Speaker 6: meeting with the Bengals and I walked out of that
Speaker 6: meeting when it ended, and I'm like, I am not
Speaker 6: going to the Bengals. I just felt like I just
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if I did bad in
Speaker 6: the meeting, but obviously not. I'm here, but right, I
Speaker 6: just I just did not feel good, feel good about it.
Speaker 6: And then you know, the moment's leading up to the
Speaker 6: draft day was fine, like, but on actual draft day,
Speaker 6: most nervous I've ever been in my life. And like,
Speaker 6: I don't ever get nervous like before games. I'm never nervous,
Speaker 6: Like I'm just super super relaxed, bright day of the draft,
Speaker 6: so nervous, like pacing back and forth, everything cannot sit still.
Speaker 6: And then I see the five and three area code
Speaker 6: and I'm like, no, it's at Cincinnati below it. Now
Speaker 6: I was just like wow, Like I just did not
Speaker 6: think I was coming here. But and after I got
Speaker 6: that call, just all the they felt like the like
Speaker 6: the weight off my shoulders was just lifted immediately. Just
Speaker 6: it's such a stressful process, so so unknown, you just
Speaker 6: you don't know anything about it. And then I got
Speaker 6: the call and it was the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 3: So who was on the other rine?
Speaker 4: Was it Duke Tobin, was it Zach Taylor? Was it
Speaker 4: Al Golden? Was it all of them? Did they all?
Speaker 4: You know, give you a quick clow and congratulations? How
Speaker 4: did that work out?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 5: Is that called?
Speaker 6: Then soon after Hodges called the linebacker coach, and then
Speaker 6: soon after that Al Golden called. So it was just
Speaker 6: like a little domino effect, just got like three three
Speaker 6: calls in a row. And then the first person who
Speaker 6: actually texted me is Logan Wilson. So that's why I like,
Speaker 6: after after everything, like, Logan is such an important important
Speaker 6: person me solely because of that, aside from the guy
Speaker 6: he is, like, he was the first person on the
Speaker 6: most important day of my life who texting me after
Speaker 6: I got so he's.
Speaker 5: He'll he'll always have a have a special place in
Speaker 5: my heart for sure. Yeah, all right that we are
Speaker 5: going to take a time out.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we will listen to a highlight
Speaker 2: and find out if Barrett saved the ball. After this highlight,
Speaker 2: you are listening to the Bengals Game Plan Show presented
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Speaker 2: in North Bend tonight, laugh and I are here until eight.
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Speaker 5: With our special guest. In the first hour.
Speaker 2: Tonight, rookie linebacker Barrett Carter number forty nine out.
Speaker 5: Of clemsonner Sir.
Speaker 2: Barrett had a phenomenal career for the Tigers, three interceptions
Speaker 2: twenty one pass breakups while he was there, and we
Speaker 2: saw his past coverage skills in the Bengals second preseason game.
Speaker 2: Let's listen back, Mike, I think Barrett's having trouble. Looks
Speaker 2: all right, Barrett's having troubled hearing check one two? Can
Speaker 2: you hear that anything yet? I can speak really loudly.
Speaker 2: We gotta work It's back, okay, all right, that'd be
Speaker 2: a backdraft. You had three interceptions twenty one pass breakups
Speaker 2: at Clemson. We saw evidence of your past coverage skills
Speaker 2: in the Bengals second preseason game.
Speaker 5: Let's go back and listen.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight seconds remaining in the half.
Speaker 5: Washington has a couple of timeouts. Hartman turns a little intercepted.
Speaker 9: I want to get back as Barrett Carter, he's.
Speaker 2: At the twenty and he gets tackled after intercepting Hartman
Speaker 2: with twenty seconds left in the half.
Speaker 3: Man, how about that?
Speaker 5: All right, So it's a preseason game.
Speaker 2: It doesn't go down in the all time record book,
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking if I'm a player, and that's my
Speaker 2: second time in an NFL preseason game.
Speaker 5: That's a big deal to me. Was it to you?
Speaker 5: And did you save the ball? Absolutely? I saved the ball.
Speaker 6: It's the ball is actually sitting in the back of
Speaker 6: my truck right now, so I probably should have handled
Speaker 6: it with more and more. But that ball is gonna go.
Speaker 6: Like I said in my man cave, whenever I get
Speaker 6: a house, And now that was a special, special day,
Speaker 6: special moment. So now I got to get my first
Speaker 6: one in game in the regular season. But that that
Speaker 6: ball forever be saved.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question. Gotta save that bad boy. You're
Speaker 4: such a great athlete. How many sports did you play
Speaker 4: in high school? I mean football obviously, did you play basketball?
Speaker 4: Did you play baseball? Did you play soccer? Did you
Speaker 4: play lacrosse? What kind of sports were you into?
Speaker 5: I played basketball.
Speaker 6: I stopped playing my sophomore year because I had I
Speaker 6: had a talk with my trainer and he was like,
Speaker 6: let's be realistic.
Speaker 5: You're six foot six to one on a good day.
Speaker 6: You're starting to get looked at for football and you
Speaker 6: know you're not that good at basketball.
Speaker 5: So like he was like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 6: And so after that conversation, you know, hung up my
Speaker 6: basketball jersey and just just focused fully on football.
Speaker 5: So I think I think it was the right decision.
Speaker 3: I think right, and I think absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: How young were you when you started working with a trainer?
Speaker 2: And were you one of these kids that was, you know,
Speaker 2: six in the morning you were working out before you
Speaker 2: went to school, that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: I started with my trainer in the eighth grade, and no,
Speaker 6: I like it was up to the eighth grade. I
Speaker 6: was just wake up whenever, not really do anything. And
Speaker 6: you know, did I answer the question, but I forgot about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you started working with a trainer in the
Speaker 2: eighth grade. And yeah, but you weren't a crack.
Speaker 5: Up done before school?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, definitely not. I was more of a
Speaker 6: seven six seven pm, six, seven pm.
Speaker 5: How you go?
Speaker 4: So you obviously you mentioned that you have a relationship
Speaker 4: with your mother. You know, you were emotional after the
Speaker 4: draft and everything with your mom. How about the rest
Speaker 4: of your filming? How about your dad? How about do
Speaker 4: you have brothers and sisters? Yeah, I'm older sis.
Speaker 3: Do you have an older sister?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: What what were you guys like? Did you guys are
Speaker 4: you close. Did how many years apart are you? So
Speaker 4: I'm twenty three seats, so.
Speaker 6: It was six years apart, Si s party and those
Speaker 6: my mom, my dad, my sister. That those are my
Speaker 6: best friends. They're they are truly like my my rock,
Speaker 6: my foundation. Like why I do what I do, like
Speaker 6: just it's just to make them proud and like, those
Speaker 6: are my best friends. Like they're probably looking at my
Speaker 6: location right now, wondering what I'm doing. I'll probably call
Speaker 6: them after this and you know, fill them in. But
Speaker 6: you know, we talk about everything. We face Sime and
Speaker 6: our group face sign every single day, just catching each
Speaker 6: other up on our days and whatnot. But those are
Speaker 6: those those three are my those are my that's my foundation.
Speaker 6: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: The Pangos face to pairs this week. Your family had
Speaker 2: Chicago roots, correctly.
Speaker 6: Yes, we do a lot like that's I was born
Speaker 6: in Chicago, lived there for seven years, both parents from Chicago,
Speaker 6: sisters from Chicago. Like really, I would say seventy five
Speaker 6: percent of my whole family's from Chicago and still lives
Speaker 6: in Chicago. So I'm gonna have a lot of people
Speaker 6: at the game. It's gonna be really cool just to
Speaker 6: you know, play in front of the or play against
Speaker 6: the team that you know, I grew up rooting for.
Speaker 6: I know, I hate to say that, but grew up
Speaker 6: rooting for, grew up watching. You know, I'll get to
Speaker 6: play against them and you know, showcase what I can do.
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be a special, surreal moment just having
Speaker 6: so much family there to support me and just watch
Speaker 6: me live on my dream. So I'm just looking forward
Speaker 6: to it. So we just got to walk out there
Speaker 6: with a dug.
Speaker 4: So all the family that's coming down from Chicago to
Speaker 4: Cincinnati watch you play. Did you have to buy tickets
Speaker 4: or they buy in their own tickets? That was when
Speaker 4: I was a rookie.
Speaker 6: It was like, oh man, yeah, yeah, So I told
Speaker 6: I got I got some of them tickets. But the rest,
Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna be at like in the stadium,
Speaker 6: Like there's gonna be like tailgating Outside's cool, Thankfully, I
Speaker 6: only have to get like five or six tickets, but
Speaker 6: and the rest would be outside the stadium. So I'll
Speaker 6: have a lot of people there, but only like five.
Speaker 5: Or six in the in the stadium. That's cool, all right.
Speaker 2: We need to take another time out when we come back.
Speaker 2: We'll hear from head coach Zach Taylor on why Barrett
Speaker 2: Carter moved into the Bengals starting lineup.
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Speaker 2: He address thirty seven eighty three Shady Lane in North Bend,
Speaker 2: not too far from the Indiana state line. I'm delighted
Speaker 2: to have Barrett Carter with us as our special guest
Speaker 2: for another fifteen minutes or so, and then Lap and
Speaker 2: I will be here until eight o'clock tonight.
Speaker 5: Thank you to all the Bengals fans so with us
Speaker 5: this evening. Greatly appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Special shout out to Nita, who is out Dunner soon,
Speaker 2: the official K three chef of the Bengals radio network.
Speaker 2: One of why we have gained ten pounds already tonight.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Nit. All right.
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, the Bengals changed their starting lineup
Speaker 2: on defense, inserting Barrett Carter and moving Logan Wilson to
Speaker 2: a more situational role here as head coach Zach Taylor
Speaker 2: on making that decision.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's a physical player. I think he's
Speaker 10: really good in coverage. I think he's got leadership traits. Again,
Speaker 10: these are not things that are reflection, a poor reflection
Speaker 10: somebody else's. Is just what I see as his high
Speaker 10: end trades. And so I think all that matters and
Speaker 10: just continue to give an opportunity for that to flourish.
Speaker 10: But again, I just think the more opportunity he's going
Speaker 10: to get, the quicker he's going to reach his potential.
Speaker 10: And so instead of sitting around and waiting, I was
Speaker 10: just throwing on the fire and get going.
Speaker 2: You have publicly expressed your admiration for how Logan Wilson
Speaker 2: has handled this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's He's a true definition of a pro. Like,
Speaker 6: our relationship has not changed, you know. He told me,
Speaker 6: he told me from the jump, like I'm still here
Speaker 6: for you, like, regardless of you know what the situation is, like,
Speaker 6: I'm still here for you, like, still lean on me
Speaker 6: and still ask me questions because you know, our ultimate
Speaker 6: goal is to try to get wins for this team.
Speaker 6: And so he's really he's just been so helpful. Like
Speaker 6: he I say it all the time, like my the
Speaker 6: veterans that I had. I heard a whole bunch of
Speaker 6: like horror stories about veterans, and I'm just like, it's
Speaker 6: a complete opposite for me. Just I have the best
Speaker 6: I have the best veterans I could have ever asked for.
Speaker 6: So he just has always poured into me. He still
Speaker 6: pours into me, and I'm still gonna lean on him,
Speaker 6: you know, heavily, just being a rookie and being a
Speaker 6: young guy just trying to figure my way out. But
Speaker 6: he's been so so essential and crucial for UH, for
Speaker 6: towards my development.
Speaker 4: I would say the uh let's get back to the
Speaker 4: upcoming game for a little bit against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 4: We talked about them some, and but let's focus in
Speaker 4: on Caleb Williams the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Big, good sized quarterback, long.
Speaker 4: Arm, powerful arm, can put the ball on the money,
Speaker 4: very accurate, and it thrills it with great velocity, a
Speaker 4: lot of RPMs. He's got a wide receiver corps that
Speaker 4: is significant. I mean, they've got a lot of talent
Speaker 4: that wide receiver corps. He's got tight ends, you can
Speaker 4: throw the football too. They have running backs to run
Speaker 4: the football effectively. How big a challenge is this Chicago
Speaker 4: Bear defense for you guys offense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's a big challenge. You know, they
Speaker 6: have literally playmakers at every single position and that that
Speaker 6: can hurt you if you're you know, not on your
Speaker 6: p's and q So it's going to be a great
Speaker 6: matchup for us, you know, and it starts with Caleb
Speaker 6: Like he he's one of the he's one of the
Speaker 6: best in the business. And he's already he's we're the
Speaker 6: same age and he's super young. So he's a dynamic athlete.
Speaker 6: You know, he can hurt you with his legs and
Speaker 6: he has a very explosive arm. So we gotta, you know,
Speaker 6: we got to just make sure that we're on our
Speaker 6: p's and q's with him, and you know, we just
Speaker 6: got a rally to the football, you know, show him
Speaker 6: different looks and disguise coverages and you know, heat him
Speaker 6: up when we get the chance. But they if we're
Speaker 6: not on our p's and q's, they have playmakers that
Speaker 6: have heard us. So just gotta be uh, everyone just
Speaker 6: has to do their one eleven and just just rally
Speaker 6: to the football.
Speaker 2: They also have a very creative coach and play caller
Speaker 2: in Ben Johnson. He was the hot available coach last
Speaker 2: year when he was the offensive coordinated with the Lions
Speaker 2: and did a lot of trick plays and stuff like
Speaker 2: that in Detroit. How challenging is the stuff that you're
Speaker 2: seeing them do from a schematics standpoint.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they definitely question or they make you question your
Speaker 6: eyes for sure, because if they're not in the right spot,
Speaker 6: then you know, all the eye candy is gonna is
Speaker 6: gonna you know, it's gonna get you going in the
Speaker 6: wrong direction. So for us, just have to trust what
Speaker 6: you see, folks on doing your job and you know
Speaker 6: the plays will come. But you know, they do a
Speaker 6: great job over there of you know, disguising their looks
Speaker 6: and trying to make everything look the same and you know,
Speaker 6: giving you a whole bunch of eye candy so they
Speaker 6: can you know, run at the opposite way. So just
Speaker 6: got to play with great eyes, great technique, and just rally.
Speaker 5: To the football.
Speaker 4: What about the AFC North, Let's talk about the division
Speaker 4: a little bit, A very physical division. You're used to physicality,
Speaker 4: used to physical football. You played in high school and
Speaker 4: college and very physical nature, very physical way. You've already
Speaker 4: had Division games under your belt. You know what it's like.
Speaker 4: You've got to buckle that chin strap, man, double chin strap,
Speaker 4: and buckle it up tight. What do you think about
Speaker 4: the AFC North? Has it lived up to its billing?
Speaker 5: I would say for sure?
Speaker 6: And me personally as a player, like I take pride
Speaker 6: in being physical. And you know, I've been told since
Speaker 6: a young kid, like be the hammer not the nail.
Speaker 6: That's still like the same mindset now. So just having
Speaker 6: a couple as North games already, like you can definitely
Speaker 6: tell that like physicality is a is the common theme
Speaker 6: between all four teams. So I was I was actually
Speaker 6: hope when I got drafted to an AFC North team,
Speaker 6: just because I love playing physical.
Speaker 5: I love, you know, getting my nose.
Speaker 6: Dirty, whatever the term is, right, I take part in
Speaker 6: playing physical and you know, being the hammer not the nail.
Speaker 6: So I'm glad that I'm here, and I'm glad that
Speaker 6: I get to, you know, face great opponents every week
Speaker 6: who embrace that same challenge.
Speaker 5: All Right, we need to take our final break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we will play America's favorite game
Speaker 2: show we call it Know Your School. You go five
Speaker 2: questions about friends, and you need to get at least
Speaker 2: three rights three out of five to be declared a winner.
Speaker 5: There you go, We'll see all right. Back to Barrett
Speaker 5: in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: at thirty seven eighty three Shady Lane in North Bend.
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter's with us for just a few more minutes,
Speaker 2: and that means it is time to play America's favorite
Speaker 2: game show.
Speaker 5: We call it Know Your School.
Speaker 2: I've come up with five questions about Clemson University. You
Speaker 2: must get at least three rights to be declared a winner.
Speaker 2: Are you ready? That's ready as I'll ever be an
Speaker 2: honest answer Question number one. One of the most famous
Speaker 2: trophies in sports, is named for a former Clemson coach
Speaker 2: who led the Tigers to an undefeated season in nineteen hundred.
Speaker 2: What is the last name of that coach. One of
Speaker 2: the most famous trophies in sports, the Blank Trophy nineteen
Speaker 2: hundreds named for a former Clemson coach nineteen hundred. Okay, oh,
Speaker 2: think famous troph person's last name college football.
Speaker 5: College football. I was about to say Lombardi. All right,
Speaker 5: so the college helps college hint helps. It really doesn't help.
Speaker 5: But I do I don't know. I do not know
Speaker 5: John Marty, John W. Heisman. Okay, that was a warm up. Okay.
Speaker 5: Question number two.
Speaker 2: Clemson's head coach is a two time national championship winner.
Speaker 2: Your coach, Dabos Sweeney. What is Dabbo's real first name?
Speaker 5: William Boom?
Speaker 3: There you go, killed that one man. That took a
Speaker 3: tenth of a second.
Speaker 2: Question number three, This one might be tough. The most
Speaker 2: famous building on campus is a three story brick building
Speaker 2: with a clock tower over Hillman Hall.
Speaker 5: Boom, All right, you redeemed yourself.
Speaker 4: It could even get the question finished. I mean bonus
Speaker 4: points here.
Speaker 5: Now it's Tilman Hall. That is correct.
Speaker 2: Question number four, what is the name of the main
Speaker 2: library on the Clemson campus?
Speaker 5: Cooper?
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, we have a student athlete, not just ath
Speaker 4: but your student athlete.
Speaker 2: I never went there. That's fine, and you should know that.
Speaker 2: I think so far this year only Ivy leaguer andre
Speaker 2: Yosibosh got that question right.
Speaker 3: So about it.
Speaker 6: You're a intellectual company graduate, four time academical acc.
Speaker 5: I remember some four oh gpa kind of stuff. Four
Speaker 5: o gpa.
Speaker 2: All right, one more question, just to see if you
Speaker 2: can go four for five. Name the former Clemson defensive
Speaker 2: tackle nicknamed for a kitchen appliance. Who is the hungary,
Speaker 2: the heaviest, heaviest player ever to score a touchdown in
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, William the Refrigerator.
Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, William the refrigerated story.
Speaker 2: All right, you know your school and you will never
Speaker 2: forget that. John Heisman, Yeah, coach Hemson in the early
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred.
Speaker 5: Four for five. That's not too badd did both both
Speaker 5: the peries.
Speaker 4: Didn't he have a brother? I think that played at
Speaker 4: Clemson as well. I think he did. I think he
Speaker 4: had a brother who played there too. That was one
Speaker 4: big dude man.
Speaker 2: Listed at three point thirty. He had to be fifty
Speaker 2: pounds heavier than that.
Speaker 4: Our defensive players, you know, in the Super Bowl when
Speaker 4: you got to be three eighty. If he's a pound man,
Speaker 4: he's gotta be three eighty.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable. What a horse big.
Speaker 4: Guy athletic though athletic for guys show big quick feet.
Speaker 2: Quick feet a team that was built by Duke Tobin's dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill Tobin did it.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Barrett Carter, we can't thank you enough
Speaker 2: for making the track out here to a scoreboard sports bar.
Speaker 5: We greatly appreciate it all. Thanks for having me a
Speaker 5: great game on Sunday with friends and family and attendance
Speaker 5: and kick your childhood team's rear end. Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 5: All right, let's hear it for Barret Carter.
Speaker 8: S we go.
Speaker 5: All right. We still have plenty to come on the show.
Speaker 2: We're going to let Barrett take off, but we've got
Speaker 2: about an hour left.
Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll be.
Speaker 2: Talking about the Joe Flacco situation. He's been awesome since
Speaker 2: being picked up by the Bengals, but will he be
Speaker 2: able to play this Sunday against the Bears. He's dealing
Speaker 2: with a shoulder issue, so we'll talk about that next.
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Speaker 5: So over the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco has become one of the most popular guys
Speaker 2: in town.
Speaker 5: And for good reason.
Speaker 2: He's played brilliantly so far for Cincinnati, seven touchdown passes,
Speaker 2: no picks, passer rating over one hundred. He was only
Speaker 2: sacked once last week in the loss to the New
Speaker 2: York Jets, but unfortunately, on that one sack, he landed
Speaker 2: on his shoulder and it resulted in an ac joint sprain.
Speaker 2: That is an injury to the ligaments that connect the
Speaker 2: toller bone to the shoulder blade. So his status for
Speaker 2: Sunday is a little bit up in the air. He
Speaker 2: did not practice today. Let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor.
Speaker 10: He wants to play in the game, and so kudos him. Man,
Speaker 10: he's been here three weeks. He wants to play. He's
Speaker 10: speaking formed, but told me, we'll have to work through
Speaker 10: the week to see if that's that's able to do that.
Speaker 10: It's a throwing shoulder, it's painful, but I mean, call
Speaker 10: a guy who wants to do that, wants to get
Speaker 10: out there and play with something like that.
Speaker 5: Credit to him.
Speaker 10: So we'll go through the week and see what it
Speaker 10: ends up and have Jake ready to go to and
Speaker 10: just see how it plays out for him to come in,
Speaker 10: and it would be easy to make a decision that
Speaker 10: there's no way I'm playing, you know, I just I've
Speaker 10: got an AC joint. We got a bye week next week.
Speaker 10: Let's just let this think. Heel up and that has
Speaker 10: not been the communication he's given to me at all. Now,
Speaker 10: ultimately he may not be able to play. We may
Speaker 10: make that decision, but for him just to want to
Speaker 10: put it out there for our team himself, like he
Speaker 10: said before, He's just a football player.
Speaker 5: That's what he does.
Speaker 10: That certainly goes along with me.
Speaker 5: Lap.
Speaker 2: You had that injury during your playing career. How hard
Speaker 2: would it be for a quarterback to play with an
Speaker 2: AC joints?
Speaker 5: Brand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the AC joint. It's no joke.
Speaker 4: It's we're you're clavical, you know, meets your shoulder blade
Speaker 4: as such. And for a quarterback. Now, I don't know
Speaker 4: how bad his separations. I had a separated shoulder landed
Speaker 4: on my elbow in a goal line sequence against the
Speaker 4: Chargers and jammed it up and separated, you know, kind
Speaker 4: of the clavicle pulled, pulled away from the shoulder blade
Speaker 4: a little bit and there was a gap there you could.
Speaker 3: Put your finger throw. I could put my finger into.
Speaker 4: The gap and go all the way down in there,
Speaker 4: which was stupid to do, but I was doing. I
Speaker 4: don't know why I did it, Curiosity, I guess.
Speaker 5: But he.
Speaker 4: Hopefully his isn't that wide open. Hopefully his clavicle is
Speaker 4: pretty intact and he's got more of a bruise, you know,
Speaker 4: going on. If that's the case, I think he plays,
Speaker 4: I would not be It would not shock me whatsoever
Speaker 4: if Joe Flacco's out there throwing the football, so how
Speaker 4: much will it hinder his accuracy? Because that that's what
Speaker 4: he has been so amazing, getting the ball out of
Speaker 4: his hands so quickly, and the accuracy with which he's
Speaker 4: done it, and of velocity he's throwing the football. His
Speaker 4: arm strength is still unbelievable and unbelievably amazing. He's got
Speaker 4: an incredible arm. It would be, you know, a thing
Speaker 4: to remember in Bengals history. Joe Flacco here, like Willis Reed,
Speaker 4: you know, comes out of the locker and Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: comes out of the tunnel and the last one introduced
Speaker 4: and the offense is out there on the football field
Speaker 4: ready to you know, greet him with open arms, and
Speaker 4: he goes out and plays very very well and wins
Speaker 4: a football game in a game that they've got to
Speaker 4: win against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: In the three games that he's played for the Bengals,
Speaker 2: his time to throw is right up there near the
Speaker 2: top in the NFL. If he can't play this week,
Speaker 2: Jake Browning has watched him for three weeks. Do you
Speaker 2: think that's one of the things that Jake would try
Speaker 2: to do better than he had done in the three
Speaker 2: games he started.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Jake, I think that Joe for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: it's it's a little bit later in the season. They've
Speaker 4: played more reps together. Uh, they've kind of bonded a
Speaker 4: little bit. The offensive line's pass protected fairly decently for Joe,
Speaker 4: and he said it. He's given the offensive line a
Speaker 4: lot of kudos, a lot of bouquets, verbal bouquets, and uh,
Speaker 4: and it's well earned and well deserved. They've they've done
Speaker 4: a pretty good job of keeping Joe Flacco upright and
Speaker 4: haven't really taken that many hits. But unfortunately, on one
Speaker 4: of the few hits that he did take, it was
Speaker 4: a significant one and caused injury. But if they can
Speaker 4: protect Jake Browning like they protect protected Joe Flacco, he may.
Speaker 3: He may do pretty well. I mean he may. He may,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: Execute the Bengals offense fairly, uh, fairly decently. He knows
Speaker 4: what he's doing. He's a very smart guy, very bright quarterback.
Speaker 4: He's got really good football IQ. He can throw the football,
Speaker 4: he can do, he can do a lot of things.
Speaker 4: His teammates like him. They respond to him. It's not like, huh, jeez,
Speaker 4: we've got Jake Browning, Oh my god, we're in trouble.
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not anything like that.
Speaker 4: So I hope that if Joe's out for an extended
Speaker 4: period of time, Jake Browning lights it up. I hope
Speaker 4: he goes out and puts together a big winning streak
Speaker 4: and they get it right back on the hunt.
Speaker 2: How much his Flacco helped the line between how quickly
Speaker 2: he throws the ball and knowing where he's going to
Speaker 2: be because he's not running around back there. He's dropping
Speaker 2: back into the pocket, maybe inching up if need be,
Speaker 2: but typically.
Speaker 5: Not running around from sideline to sideline.
Speaker 4: Good point, Dan, I mean, he is, He's not a statue,
Speaker 4: but he's not what you consider an upperly mobile quarterback either,
Speaker 4: but you mentioned something that he does very well. He
Speaker 4: will climb the pocket and he's got a little escapability
Speaker 4: in the pocket. He's got a little lateral movement, he's
Speaker 4: got his feet are still fairly quick. So I think
Speaker 4: I think the offensive.
Speaker 3: Line likes blocking for Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4: Some of the guys that I've talked to have mentioned
Speaker 4: that very thing that you know, he's really easy to
Speaker 4: block for. Because the biggest reason is the other thing
Speaker 4: you said, you know your football is they know where
Speaker 4: he's going to be. It's not like, Jeez, can I
Speaker 4: if he takes an outside rush, do I have to
Speaker 4: turn him back inside? Can I take him to the outside?
Speaker 4: Where's the quarterback setting up? Where's he going to be?
Speaker 4: They know, So, you know, with that question out of
Speaker 4: the equation, I think it's a much easier dynamic to
Speaker 4: block for Joe.
Speaker 5: All right, let's move to another topic.
Speaker 2: And you alluded to this early in the show, something
Speaker 2: you've been hearing with your work in podcasting, social media,
Speaker 2: et cetera. The mistackles, Yeah, it was glaring last week.
Speaker 2: For the season, the Bengals have more than eighty no team,
Speaker 2: no other team in the league has more than sixty five,
Speaker 2: so it's been an issue. Let's hear from linebacker Dimitrius
Speaker 2: Knight on that topic, trying to improve in the area
Speaker 2: of getting people on the ground.
Speaker 11: Here's Demetrius, and this is the NFL. It's not just
Speaker 11: your cake walk. This isn't you know, backyard football. This
Speaker 11: isn't rec league football. Those guys in the opposite side
Speaker 11: are also paid, just like we're paid. We're paid to
Speaker 11: get them on the ground. They're paid to make us miss.
Speaker 11: And some of those times you may be in bad position,
Speaker 11: you may have your feet tangled up, you may slip
Speaker 11: on the turf and whatnot or grass. But at the
Speaker 11: end of the day, it just comes down to relying
Speaker 11: on your technique the basics. Talked about it this morning
Speaker 11: that you know, Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant relied on
Speaker 11: the basics and mastering the basics, and when you get
Speaker 11: away from those, like it's easy to you find fault
Speaker 11: in those. But once you master those, you begin to
Speaker 11: take it strides that you.
Speaker 3: Know you can make.
Speaker 2: Master or matter. Rather as he just described, mastering the basics.
Speaker 4: I think it is. I think I mean, eighty tackles
Speaker 4: is a lot. I mean ten a game. That's that's
Speaker 4: just waiting way too many, way too many.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And it's it's killing. It's killing the football team. I
Speaker 4: think that is the biggest, single reason reason that the
Speaker 4: Bengals are where they are record wise. I think it's
Speaker 4: a compound or a compounding nature of two things. Not
Speaker 4: stopping the run. Why aren't you stopping the run? Well
Speaker 4: more so than not hitting the right gaps and being
Speaker 4: where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there.
Speaker 4: That aspect of it is not great, but it's good enough.
Speaker 4: But the tackling finishing players, it's just not there. So
Speaker 4: they need to go back to fundamentals, go back to
Speaker 4: techniques that Al Golden has been teaching. Rep them, rep
Speaker 4: them till they're blue in the face, wrap them till
Speaker 4: they don't want to rep them anymore, and then rep them.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it boils down to. They have
Speaker 4: to hit rap and take them to the ground. It's
Speaker 4: a three tackling. Good tackling is a three component scenario,
Speaker 4: and they're not doing it. They're just not getting it done.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are playing a lot of young guys on defense.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question that I asked
Speaker 2: Al Golden earlier this week.
Speaker 5: How long does it.
Speaker 2: Take to know if a guy can really play in
Speaker 2: the NFL? A year, a couple of years, do you
Speaker 2: know right away? I mean typically how long does it take?
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Again, Dan, you know your football,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like when I played played with
Speaker 4: teammates that you know right away.
Speaker 3: Oh, this dude's a player.
Speaker 4: I mean, he knows exactly what he's doing, why he's
Speaker 4: doing it, where he's supposed to be, when he's supposed
Speaker 4: to be there, why he's supposed to be doing what
Speaker 4: he's doing. I mean, this guy is a football savant man.
Speaker 4: This guy's you know, football Menza. His football intelligence is
Speaker 4: off the charts. He's got everything you need physically to
Speaker 4: be a dominant football player. Hey, this guy, this guy
Speaker 4: is a natural. I mean, he's gonna be playing right
Speaker 4: away and making an impact right away. Those are easy.
Speaker 4: But then you have guys that you know it will
Speaker 4: take a year sometimes two. Now you get into a
Speaker 4: third year and it's like, when's this guy gonna get it?
Speaker 4: When's you gonna come along? When's the like going to
Speaker 4: go on man, you know, so yeah, uh that that's
Speaker 4: that's why the draft and evaluating play it's inexact science.
Speaker 3: You know, there's no there's.
Speaker 4: No formula that you can you can utilize on guys
Speaker 4: on a on an individual by individual basis that will
Speaker 4: give you a computer printout sheet and tell you exactly
Speaker 4: what you can anticipate from a guy. Uh, from a
Speaker 4: career standpoint.
Speaker 2: The Bengals and Bears this Sunday coming up next, we
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Speaker 2: it's time for this week's No the Faux segment. Time
Speaker 2: to get the lowdown on this week's opponent. And to
Speaker 2: do that, we welcome in the great radio voice of
Speaker 2: the Bears, in his twenty fifth year calling their games,
Speaker 2: our friend Jeff Joniac. Jeff, welcome to the Bengals radio network.
Speaker 3: How are you, my man?
Speaker 8: I'm doing great, gentlemen, how we feeling it? And if I
Speaker 8: did the math correct and maybe Dave can fix this
Speaker 8: for me, eight hundred and nine Bengals games in the
Speaker 8: booth and on the field, is that correct?
Speaker 2: That's actually a little low laugh. Did his one thousandth
Speaker 2: game earlier this year between playing and broadcast?
Speaker 4: Yeah, between you might have yeah, you might you might
Speaker 4: have missed some of the playing games or whatever, or
Speaker 4: playoff games as broadcast. But yeah, it's over a thousand,
Speaker 4: which is mind boggling.
Speaker 3: Jeff. I don't know. I can't I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know where all the time went.
Speaker 3: Thousand games.
Speaker 5: That's scary. In fairness to you, Jeff.
Speaker 2: That math was done by our friend and colleague Jay Morrison,
Speaker 2: who covers the Bengals, and I think he may have
Speaker 2: included preseason games.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, if.
Speaker 2: You were just a regular season that would account for
Speaker 2: the difference.
Speaker 8: Yeah, regardless, tip of the caps to you, and congratulations
Speaker 8: down the Ring of honor. I've had many times to
Speaker 8: visit with you, and that is that's some kind of
Speaker 8: performance right there, and that's the love of the game.
Speaker 8: So I respect that. I talked to your old roommate today, Kenny,
Speaker 8: and we had him on our podcast and it was
Speaker 8: an awesome, awesome conversation.
Speaker 4: He's just terrible, isn't He might be the worst guest
Speaker 4: I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3: He's unclear, he is. He is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: I mean, I roomed with the guy for ten years
Speaker 4: and I don't think I've ever known a better human being,
Speaker 4: a better football player, or a better human being than
Speaker 4: Kenny Anderson.
Speaker 3: The guy is. He's a gem man. He's one of
Speaker 3: a kind. And appreciate your kind work. Jeff, you got it.
Speaker 8: You earned it, my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about your team, the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels was so good last year and Drake may
Speaker 2: has been so good this year that some people at
Speaker 2: least have questioned whether the Bears got the right guy
Speaker 2: when they picked Caleb Williams number one overall last year.
Speaker 2: How good has Caleb been this year?
Speaker 8: Well, he's definitely making progress. And you know, I can
Speaker 8: look at statistics many different ways, as we all can.
Speaker 8: Ron Rivera, my good friend and former Bears linebacker and
Speaker 8: former head coach, in a couple of spots that figures
Speaker 8: lie in Liar's figure. But I'm going to go with
Speaker 8: the positives and Caleb when you look at key situational football,
Speaker 8: whether it be first down performance, what he does on
Speaker 8: third down, what's he done in the fourth quarter of games.
Speaker 8: You know, his quarterback ratings here have been up over
Speaker 8: one hundred, So you know that's just one simple breadcrumb
Speaker 8: leading to a bigger picture. But despite the loss last week,
Speaker 8: and it was a tough one to take, no question
Speaker 8: about it, Ben Johnson said he made major progress last week.
Speaker 8: And as long as we keep paring major progress for
Speaker 8: a young quarterback, that's music to my ears.
Speaker 3: I hear that.
Speaker 4: What about the Chicago Bears in general, you know, it
Speaker 4: seems like they've had their moments where they're playing pretty
Speaker 4: darn good football. I think it's a solid football team,
Speaker 4: and then they've had all the moments where you know,
Speaker 4: it's been a struggle, and I guess I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what the anticipation was organizationally for
Speaker 4: the season for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're living up to it or whether.
Speaker 4: They're not, or you know, just right right in the
Speaker 4: middle of all of those expectations in terms of how
Speaker 4: they performed. What is it about the Chicago Bears why?
Speaker 4: I guess consistency or inconsistency might be the best way
Speaker 4: to put it. What's the reason for the inconsistency do
Speaker 4: you think, Jeff?
Speaker 8: You know, and a lot of self inflicted wounds. I mean,
Speaker 8: that would really sum up some of their losses here
Speaker 8: Detroit was the exception that was just a steam rolling
Speaker 8: walked into a hornet's nest there. But the penalties, you know,
Speaker 8: they're one of the highest penalized teams in the NFL.
Speaker 8: The false start they've got the most in the NFL.
Speaker 8: Those pre snapped things will drive any any coach crazy,
Speaker 8: particularly an offensive coordinator. Who is the head coach in
Speaker 8: this case, Ben Johnson. So he's challenged much like Zach
Speaker 8: Taylor's challenged the defensive leaders of the football team there
Speaker 8: in your neck of the woods, he's challenged the offensive
Speaker 8: leaders and the Bears to clean it up and make
Speaker 8: sure that they stop hurting themselves because it has happened
Speaker 8: at critical moment. And there could be other penalties too,
Speaker 8: including special teams that affected the balance of the field,
Speaker 8: that put the team where they would back somebody up
Speaker 8: or you know, now it's a big penalty that wipes
Speaker 8: it out and now you get the football thirty yards
Speaker 8: up down the field. So many of those types of things,
Speaker 8: I think, you know, the first part of the season,
Speaker 8: especially with the first time head coach and a new staff,
Speaker 8: there's growing pains that come with learning new schemes and
Speaker 8: particularly a very challenging and dynamic offensive concepts that Ben
Speaker 8: Johnson puts on the table.
Speaker 2: The Boys the Bears. Jeff Jonieki is our guest. The
Speaker 2: Bears have sixteen takeaways. They are number one in the
Speaker 2: NFL in turnover ratio. How are they doing it? How
Speaker 2: are they getting that many takeaways on defense?
Speaker 8: Well, they're they're rallying to the ball, and you know,
Speaker 8: it's a feeding frenzy when it starts to happen. They
Speaker 8: did not have one last week, and that that was
Speaker 8: a to teal reason for the defeat. They were living
Speaker 8: on that and they were turning those into points. I
Speaker 8: think they have fifty points off takeaways. You know, I
Speaker 8: made a mistake. I was talking. I was talking with
Speaker 8: the former All Pro cornerback and Bears defensive back coach
Speaker 8: and passing game coordinator Al Harris about, Hey, the ball
Speaker 8: is finding certain players and it had been the case
Speaker 8: all throughout training camp fellas, I mean guys like Tremaine Edmunds,
Speaker 8: guys like Kevin Byern, and it spilled over into the
Speaker 8: regular season. And I said, you know, why is the
Speaker 8: ball finding these players? Is Is it just because of
Speaker 8: the And he kept shaking his head, Am I on
Speaker 8: the round round track. He goes, it's mindset, he corrected me,
Speaker 8: and I kept trying to push that envelope. Nope, it's
Speaker 8: about mindset. And I do believe this team plays with
Speaker 8: that mindset and that fire and if they're able to
Speaker 8: cut it loose and play physical and violent, that's what
Speaker 8: That's what every coach wants. But that's been stated as
Speaker 8: one of the key components of what they want the
Speaker 8: identity of this team to be in all three phases.
Speaker 8: You know, the ball is gonna come out hard hits
Speaker 8: or ricochets or you know, making teams feel uncomfortable when
Speaker 8: that ball is in the air, or if they're running
Speaker 8: at you and you're getting raked every time you touch
Speaker 8: the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're hitting on the physicality that in my mind.
Speaker 4: I mean when I think Chicago Bears, I think dip
Speaker 4: butk is. I think, you know, just stoning people. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Walter Payton running people over and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: putting cleek marks up their chest and their face mask
Speaker 4: as he runs them over. You know, I just think
Speaker 4: about Top Bears, the Chicago Bears, I mean monsters are
Speaker 4: the Midway. Have they got that mentality? Does this group
Speaker 4: have that type of mentality? Because historically the Bears have
Speaker 4: been all about that. They've been one of the most
Speaker 4: physical teams in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: Is this group of guys are they up to the task?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean they want to be. And I you know,
Speaker 8: it's funny you brought that up because I've been banging
Speaker 8: that drum for years. I don't know, call me a meathead,
Speaker 8: I don't know what you want to call me, but
Speaker 8: I guess I'm romanticizing the same thing of but just
Speaker 8: peering over a guy on the ground after blasting him
Speaker 8: and Mike Singletary and his eyes in that eighty five
Speaker 8: defense in the sixty three championship team, those teams from
Speaker 8: the forties. You know, I always feel that you should
Speaker 8: reflect the city that you play in. And now, this
Speaker 8: is the city of broad shoulders, This is you know,
Speaker 8: rough and tumble Chicago, the meatyards back in the day.
Speaker 8: You know, just that kind of mentality, and I think
Speaker 8: Bears fans expect it, they love it when it happens,
Speaker 8: and I do too. And I think when you close
Speaker 8: your eyes, especially in the AFC North, in the NFC North,
Speaker 8: the old Black and Blue Division, in the NFC Central,
Speaker 8: the AFC Central, and I go, I'm very familiar with
Speaker 8: both of those divisions where I have grown up in
Speaker 8: my life, and you can close your eyes and know
Speaker 8: what a Steeler looks like, what a Raven looks like,
Speaker 8: what a Cleveland Brown and ball in Cincinnati Bengal looked
Speaker 8: like throughout the history of the franchise, and you can
Speaker 8: say the same thing about the four teams in the
Speaker 8: NFC North.
Speaker 5: Totally agree with that.
Speaker 2: Jeff ben Johnson was the coach that every team with
Speaker 2: a vacancy last year wanted to hire ye, how did
Speaker 2: the Bears come out on top in that derby to
Speaker 2: come away with Ben Johnson?
Speaker 8: In his first introduction, he simply said I want this job,
Speaker 8: and it was over get it. As soon as he
Speaker 8: said I want this job, he got that job. And
Speaker 8: he made it clear before I even uttered a single
Speaker 8: question in the interview, I want this job, and that
Speaker 8: passion connected and it didn't hurt that he's very well
Speaker 8: paid in addition, but he was going to get that
Speaker 8: no matter where you go. But the Bears dipped into
Speaker 8: their vault and they paid what they believe was the
Speaker 8: best candidate for the job in this hiring cycle. And
Speaker 8: I you know, listen, man, I think this is my
Speaker 8: eighth head coach in my twenty nine years associated with
Speaker 8: the team, and twenty five is play by play. I've
Speaker 8: met some amazing coaches, all kinds of coaches, different personalities.
Speaker 8: This guy has me waking up every day excited about
Speaker 8: what I'm going to see next and certainly on game day,
Speaker 8: what plan is going to be put together offensively. And
Speaker 8: I feel the same way frankly about Dennis Allen right now.
Speaker 8: I'm just excited to see what they bring to the
Speaker 8: table because they are making new game plans a single
Speaker 8: week for their opponent, and then that's just relying on,
Speaker 8: you know, a bunch of plays thrown together that they
Speaker 8: have a they have a plan, And I do appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Ben Johnson, Dennis I would think, I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, they got to have some kind of a plan.
Speaker 4: What what are you expecting? What is the media expecting?
Speaker 4: What do you think you're gonna see? How to the
Speaker 4: Chicago Bears all season long? What's gonna be their staple?
Speaker 4: What's gonna be the thing they hang their hat on?
Speaker 4: No matter what, the Chicago Bears will be.
Speaker 8: This physical and violent, that's what they want to be.
Speaker 8: They want to if you're if you're gonna get into
Speaker 8: a fight, you know, and you're gonna win that fight
Speaker 8: and you're gonna leave Chicago, or they're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 8: feel that game and you want to feel them when
Speaker 8: you watch and turn on the tape and you know
Speaker 8: that you're gonna be in for a long sixts no
Speaker 8: matter what the outcome. I think that's kind of the
Speaker 8: notion and all three phases, not just uh, not just defense,
Speaker 8: but offense and special teams. And I'm sure every coach
Speaker 8: in the league want that right, but you've got to
Speaker 8: speak it into existence and make it a thing and
Speaker 8: then believing because this has been a franchise, obviously, it
Speaker 8: has had a roller coaster ride, and they have to
Speaker 8: feel and understand what it takes to win, that every
Speaker 8: play counts, that every play matters, and learn how to
Speaker 8: do it. And they started that process during that four
Speaker 8: game winning streak, and they want to make sure that
Speaker 8: that feeling does not does not vacate the facility after
Speaker 8: one setback last week.
Speaker 2: Jeff can't thank you enough for joining us tonight. It's
Speaker 2: always great to chat with you, and we look forward
Speaker 2: to seeing you in Cincinnati on Sunday.
Speaker 8: All right, appreciate it. We'll be looking forward to seeing
Speaker 8: you guys. Take care of a good night, good show.
Speaker 3: Safe travels, Safe travels, my man.
Speaker 2: That is our friend, Jeff Joniat, the great voice up
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. We're going to take a time out.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, what happened in the player's only defensive
Speaker 2: meeting the Bengals held on Monday.
Speaker 5: We'll discuss that next.
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Speaker 10: I think someone needs to step up and lead the group.
Speaker 10: That's what I'm waiting to see someone step up and
Speaker 10: lead the group and take some accountability over there and
Speaker 10: get this thingle in the right way.
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Speaker 2: That was an exasperated Zach Taylor immediately after the last
Speaker 2: week's loss to the Jets, where the defense gave up
Speaker 2: three straight touchdown drives in the fourth quarter. Cincinnati lost
Speaker 2: the game thirty nine to thirty eight. The guys on
Speaker 2: defense got the message. The veteran leaders on defense, guys
Speaker 2: like bj Hill, Logan Wilson, Trey Hendrickson, called for a
Speaker 2: player's only defensive meeting on Monday. Piers rookie Dimitrius Knight
Speaker 2: talking about that meeting.
Speaker 11: Of course they take it to heart and okay, it
Speaker 11: was hard for them to sleep and whatnot, but they
Speaker 11: came in, they challenged us, and they take accountability for everything,
Speaker 11: just as we all take accountability for everything that we
Speaker 11: put on film. So it's it's a group effort. There's
Speaker 11: gonna be no blame game, no pointing fingers, nothing right.
Speaker 11: But we do have leaders on this defail.
Speaker 2: Remember any players only meetings back in the day Latin.
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, was involved in a couple three of them.
Speaker 4: And you know, the the good thing is when you
Speaker 4: do have players conduct players only meeting, it shows.
Speaker 3: That they care.
Speaker 4: You know, It's like they're not happy with what's going on.
Speaker 4: It's not like, hey, you know, and water rolling off
Speaker 4: my back. I don't care. I'm getting my paycheck. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna go home and you know, work through things.
Speaker 4: Make sure I don't try not to get injured, get
Speaker 4: through a season, get another vested season in retirement, you know,
Speaker 4: get a year under your belt.
Speaker 3: You're one of a four year contract. They're not. It's
Speaker 3: not like that with this group.
Speaker 4: They're they're they want to be good, they want to
Speaker 4: have a good season, and they're trying to make sure
Speaker 4: that they don't waste any time in turning it around,
Speaker 4: you know, redirect the bus as such and get it,
Speaker 4: get it moving in the right direction, and win some
Speaker 4: football games. Don't want to waste any more opportunities to
Speaker 4: win games. The season's not that long. You're you're halfway
Speaker 4: through it. You don't have any games to waste right now.
Speaker 4: It can't happen.
Speaker 2: Had the Bengals won a game they scored thirty eight
Speaker 2: points in against the team that did not have a
Speaker 2: victory heading into the game, they would be even in
Speaker 2: the win column in the AFC North for first place.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 4: Crazy, it is because they're not playing. They're playing like crap.
Speaker 4: You know, they're not playing well, and they know they're
Speaker 4: not playing well. And that's you know that defensively, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that's and that's uber frustrating. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: people think that professional athletes are spoiled brats and they
Speaker 4: don't care. It's not true. It's not true. Most of
Speaker 4: most of the guys that I played with, they they
Speaker 4: truly cared about the effort that they were putting forth
Speaker 4: and the plays that they were showing up on tape.
Speaker 4: You know, they wanted to make sure that they were
Speaker 4: playing at a high level. They wanted to make sure
Speaker 4: that they were playing proficiently. They were doing everything they
Speaker 4: possibly could to help their team win, win football games.
Speaker 4: Be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to
Speaker 4: be there, Have pride in what you're doing. Play with energy, emotion,
Speaker 4: play with great detail. All those things are are vitally important,
Speaker 4: and you have to have all of them and be
Speaker 4: able to do all of them well to succeed and
Speaker 4: win games.
Speaker 2: Steelers play the Colts this week. Colts have the best
Speaker 2: record in the AFC at seven and one. The Ravens
Speaker 2: expect to have Lamar Jackson back. They play tomorrow night
Speaker 2: at Miami. Miami is not very good, but Thursday night
Speaker 2: road games almost by definition, are really hard for the
Speaker 2: road team, and they are the road team. So again,
Speaker 2: if the Bengals can beat the Bears at home this Sunday,
Speaker 2: it's a very good chance they're going to be even
Speaker 2: in the win column with the Pittsburgh Steelers for first place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they could definitely get it done. It
Speaker 4: is not easy to play on Thursday night, and Tua
Speaker 4: has the ability to play well. He's not playing very
Speaker 4: well right now, but he has lit it up in
Speaker 4: games in his career in the National Football League. The
Speaker 4: guy can put together big numbers. He can he can
Speaker 4: score points, throw the football when he's right, when he's
Speaker 4: seeing the field, when he's reading the progression properly, getting
Speaker 4: the ball out of his hand quickly. Who is good
Speaker 4: who it can get it done. So hopefully that tour
Speaker 4: shows up, you know against Baltimore. I mean, you're right
Speaker 4: the Bengals. It's not like man hanging your head. The
Speaker 4: season's over, are from it, and they know that. I've
Speaker 4: been in situations that were more dire than what the
Speaker 4: Bengals are facing right now and turn it around and
Speaker 4: did make the playoffs, and other seasons turn it around,
Speaker 4: didn't quite make the playoffs. They're capable of doing the
Speaker 4: same thing. I mean, this football team has plenty of
Speaker 4: good football players. It really does.
Speaker 5: Better beat the Bears.
Speaker 3: Gotta beat the Bears. Definitely.
Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna take a time out. Coming up next.
Speaker 2: The Bears, of course, have a new head coach and
Speaker 2: Ben Jonson and Zach Taylor knows him extremely well. That
Speaker 2: story is coming up next, it says The Bengals Game
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Speaker 2: of that show will be Bengals defensive lineman Chris Jenkins.
Speaker 3: Yes, he will join us from five to six to
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Speaker 2: All right, it's the Bengals and Bears this Sunday at
Speaker 2: pay Corps Stadium. Bears have a new head coach and
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Last year he was the offensive coordinator for
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. And last year he had a play
Speaker 2: called stumblebum where their quarterback Jared Goff intentionally fell down.
Speaker 2: Running back Sjamir Gibbs dove on to the ground as
Speaker 2: if he was recovering the fumble. Ben Goff hopped to
Speaker 2: his feet and threw a touchdown pass. That's the type
Speaker 2: of stuff that Ben Johnson did with the Lions. It
Speaker 2: certainly made him the most sought after coaching candidate in
Speaker 2: the job market this past offseason, the Bears hired him.
Speaker 2: They're reportedly paying him thirteen million dollars a year. And
Speaker 2: this all comes as no surprise to Bengals head coach
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, who worked with Ben Johnson for four years
Speaker 2: in Miami. Let's hear from Zach on the Bear's new
Speaker 2: head coach.
Speaker 10: Incredibly smart. I mean, this is no surprise where he's
Speaker 10: at his career, the job he's doing. Anyone who's ever
Speaker 10: interacted with him and worked with him would see this coming.
Speaker 10: You know, one of the easily one of the smartest
Speaker 10: people I've ever been around, great outside the box thinker.
Speaker 10: He's worked his way up the hard way. You know,
Speaker 10: when he got to Detroit, he had to work up
Speaker 10: from even though he was way overqualified for where he started.
Speaker 5: That's just where you do.
Speaker 10: And he just kept turning the trust of people and
Speaker 10: working all his way all the way up through the ranks,
Speaker 10: did it all the hard way, did a great job
Speaker 10: at every level. He's been at tight end coach to
Speaker 10: coordinator to now the head coach, and so I'm not
Speaker 10: surprised at all the job that Ben has done.
Speaker 2: So last year in Detroit, ben Johnson's offense, he was
Speaker 2: again the offensive coordinator, led the NFL in scoring more
Speaker 2: than thirty two points a game, led the NFL in
Speaker 2: total yards more than four hundred per game. Crazy, The
Speaker 2: Lions aren't there yet. They're middle of the pack, their
Speaker 2: fifteenth in the NFL in scoring twenty four points a game.
Speaker 2: But what has impressed you over the years with what
Speaker 2: he's done in Detroit and what he's doing so far
Speaker 2: in chicag Go about Ben Johnson?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like Zach is talking about and now
Speaker 4: there's a reference about him, his creativity. He's not afraid
Speaker 4: to try anything. You know that what he does with
Speaker 4: did with Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions is a
Speaker 4: great example. He knows that you have to have great
Speaker 4: players to do it, and and great players in terms
Speaker 4: of mentally and physically being able to comprehend and understand
Speaker 4: why you're doing what you're doing, how you're doing it,
Speaker 4: what the what the reason is uh and and what
Speaker 4: your part is in the in the success.
Speaker 5: Of the play.
Speaker 4: And he's been fortunate, I think in his career in
Speaker 4: that he has had very very bright football players with
Speaker 4: high football i Q it's not to say that he's
Speaker 4: not a great coach.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 4: I think that that he takes football to the next level.
Speaker 4: I at him as almost a young Bill Walsh. Bill
Speaker 4: Walsh was like this when we had Bill Walsh early
Speaker 4: on in our days with the Cincinnati Bengals on that
Speaker 4: on Paul Brown's staff. He was willing to try anything,
Speaker 4: and he'd tested in practice against Chuck Steadley and our
Speaker 4: defensive players and see, you know, if it had any merit,
Speaker 4: and if it did, he would tweak it and fine
Speaker 4: tune it and get it ready and polish it and
Speaker 4: dust it and all that sort of thing. I see
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson having the same type of coaching career as
Speaker 4: Bill Walsh, because, like Zach said, he's very bright, he's
Speaker 4: extremely intelligent. He you know, he's been in a position,
Speaker 4: an assistant coach, position coach, a coordinator. He's going to
Speaker 4: be a head coach. That's what Bill waltah. That's the
Speaker 4: same progression Bill Walsh took with Paul Brown. And I
Speaker 4: could see I could see him having as good a
Speaker 4: career as Bill Walsh has for as long as Bill
Speaker 4: Walsh did.
Speaker 2: So, as we said earlier, we don't know at this point,
Speaker 2: if Joe Flacko will be the starting quarterback on Sunday.
Speaker 2: If it's not him, it would be Jake Browning. Sean
Speaker 2: Clifford from Saint Xavier High School would become the backup
Speaker 2: if Joe Flacco can't play and Jake Browning starts the game,
Speaker 2: regardless of who the quarterback is. One thing that I
Speaker 2: am hopeful of and makes me think that the Bengals
Speaker 2: would have a chance to pull it out even if
Speaker 2: Jake Browning is in there is how well they've run
Speaker 2: the ball the last two weeks. One hundred and forty
Speaker 2: two yards against Pittsburgh, won eighty one against the Jets.
Speaker 2: They've averaged seven yards per run in their last two games,
Speaker 2: and the Bears are giving up more than one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty rushing yards per game so far this season.
Speaker 2: Can they have another big game on the ground, Maybe
Speaker 2: not one eighty one again, but you know one twenty
Speaker 2: plus something that would give them some balance which they
Speaker 2: obviously did not have for the first six games.
Speaker 4: You know your football, Dan, I mean, balance is the key.
Speaker 4: I mean, and the Bengals are starting to run the
Speaker 4: ball better, starting to run the ball more effectively. I
Speaker 4: think Samaj p Ryan ran hard. My god, did he
Speaker 4: run hard.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: He took advantage of every opportunity, every carry that he
Speaker 4: was given. He finished it. And man, he was high
Speaker 4: knee action running through people, broke a lot of tackles.
Speaker 4: I think Chase Brown is a gifted running back. I
Speaker 4: think he can do everything. He can run the football,
Speaker 4: he can change direction, people bounce off him with broken
Speaker 4: tackles as well, and he can make a miss a
Speaker 4: little dipsy do as well. They can run it, they
Speaker 4: can catch it out of the backfield, they run good
Speaker 4: routes as running backs. Out of the backfield. They can
Speaker 4: line up in wide receiver spots in the formation and
Speaker 4: run routes and give the Bengals some versatility and flexibility
Speaker 4: there and potential mismatches there if you get you know,
Speaker 4: a big safety or a linebacker out there and coverage
Speaker 4: on them. So yeah, I mean, I think I like
Speaker 4: what I see out of this Bengals offense. And the
Speaker 4: key is running the football well. And once you do that,
Speaker 4: you can play action pass and get some things going
Speaker 4: in that regard. And then on the flip side of it,
Speaker 4: if the defense can control the opponent's running game, and
Speaker 4: make them one dimensional. It really takes a lot of
Speaker 4: the passing attack out of the equation, and that's exactly
Speaker 4: what you want to do defensive with the.
Speaker 2: Bengals have a new offensive line coaching Scott Peters. His
Speaker 2: techniques are very different from the norm. I imagine it
Speaker 2: probably took some time for that to start, the muscle
Speaker 2: memory to kick in, for this stuff to start to
Speaker 2: feel natural. How much do you think their growth under
Speaker 2: him is fueling the improved play up front?
Speaker 4: Another good call, Dan, you know what you're looking at.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's I think it's everything. I
Speaker 4: think that I don't think they ever like. I don't
Speaker 4: believe in this guy. I don't like anything he's doing.
Speaker 4: But until you can go out and test it and
Speaker 4: try it under the you know, the lights as such,
Speaker 4: full go and and then you can make an evaluation
Speaker 4: on this, have any merit or not, you know. And
Speaker 4: and I think that they did see that what he's
Speaker 4: talking about makes sense, and he's so passionate about teaching it.
Speaker 4: My god, it's it's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: He he is.
Speaker 4: He does have some some interesting fundamentals and techniques. They're
Speaker 4: they're a little bit different than the norm. He's kind
Speaker 4: of a you know, a path, a trend center. Yeah,
Speaker 4: going down his own path coaching in the National Football League,
Speaker 4: and I think Ted Carris is a guy that really
Speaker 4: believes in what he's teaching. And as a result, Ted
Speaker 4: Carriss the leader of that offensive line, and the rest
Speaker 4: of the guys will follow suit.
Speaker 2: All Right, we need to take our final time out
Speaker 2: coming up. When we come back when the offense is
Speaker 2: good and the defense is bad or vice versa, how
Speaker 2: do you keep a team from pointing fingers? We'll discuss
Speaker 2: that next. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented
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Speaker 5: Magic.
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Speaker 2: maybe she's listening in the car. Thank you to Nida
Speaker 2: Yes who went above and she always does.
Speaker 3: She's amazing.
Speaker 2: But the bake goods are crazy tonight. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'm strong enough to carry what she has given us.
Speaker 3: It's a few pounds.
Speaker 5: It's gonna put on a few pounds, that's for sure. Right.
Speaker 2: And most of all, thank you to the Bengals fans
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Speaker 3: You guys make the show, no question.
Speaker 2: So last Sunday was rough. The Bengals scored thirty eight
Speaker 2: points and did not win. After the game, Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: was interviewed by a bunch of reporters, myself included. He
Speaker 2: didn't say anything negative about the defense, but sometimes it's
Speaker 2: what you don't say. Yeah, right, and you could feel it.
Speaker 2: You could feel his frustration. Yeah, not only for this game,
Speaker 2: but that several times that had happened last year. Sure,
Speaker 2: the offense performed really well and the defense just had
Speaker 2: a hard time keeping the opponent off the scoreboards. So
Speaker 2: how do you prevent offense and defense from finger pointing?
Speaker 2: It is human nature, it's hard to do. I asked
Speaker 2: that question earlier today to offensive line coach Scott Peters.
Speaker 5: Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 12: I reminded our guys, you know it wasn't too long
Speaker 12: ago when we were the ones that weren't playing up
Speaker 12: to our standard, and we got to be there to
Speaker 12: support our team because it's a team game, so it
Speaker 12: can't do it without everybody.
Speaker 5: And as frustrating as.
Speaker 12: It might be, and it was very frustrating to lose
Speaker 12: the game, it's a team effort and where you know,
Speaker 12: and it's always gonna be the case in football, so
Speaker 12: we just need some group to step up if somebody's
Speaker 12: not playing well or not it didn't have a good
Speaker 12: performance day.
Speaker 5: It's it's a team that makes this happen.
Speaker 12: So our guys are fully embraced of the defense and
Speaker 12: the players on that side of the ball because it's
Speaker 12: gonna take all of us to do it.
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate team game. But it's hard when one
Speaker 2: side is doing well and the other side is doing poorly.
Speaker 4: It really is, you know, and you sometimes frustrations can
Speaker 4: boil over, and that's that's what happens from time to time.
Speaker 4: And you know, I can remember situations where offensively for us,
Speaker 4: everything is clicking. It's like, oh man, this is almost
Speaker 4: too easy. What's going what's going on here? And the
Speaker 4: defense is a stiff man.
Speaker 3: They just can't.
Speaker 4: They can't stop anything. And you know it's like at halftime,
Speaker 4: you're come on, man, well you get we get off
Speaker 4: the field on third down once, when you make them
Speaker 4: punt the foot ball once, come.
Speaker 3: On, let's go. And you know you can the team.
Speaker 4: The team can fall apart, the team can become splintered, divided,
Speaker 4: and I think Zach Taylor and his coaching staff's acutely
Speaker 4: aware of that. And I'm not gonna let it happen.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that Scott Peters pointed out to his guys
Speaker 2: and this is true. Just remember earlier this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean go back to Week one. Wasn't the offense
Speaker 2: wasn't good. The defense won the.
Speaker 3: Game exactly period.
Speaker 4: And that's It's a team game. Like you said earlier, Dan,
Speaker 4: it's the ultimate team sport. You have twenty two moving
Speaker 4: parts every single play.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of things going on at the same
Speaker 4: time that if any one of them breaks down or
Speaker 4: goes wrong, it can be a problem that affects the
Speaker 4: whole system.
Speaker 5: All right, I will not be with you on Friday afternoon.
Speaker 5: I am off to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, see, if I'll see.
Speaker 5: If the Mighty Bearcats can win their eighth in a row.
Speaker 3: About it? Can you conroll.
Speaker 2: No Bearcats currently seventeenth in the country and a two
Speaker 2: hi for first place in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: And when I see you on Sunday in the press
Speaker 2: box in our booth, I might be a little sleepy.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, I'll bring a pillow. I bet,
Speaker 3: so just bring.
Speaker 2: A lot of coffee or allow me allow me to
Speaker 2: have a massive mug of coffee because I might need it.
Speaker 3: I bet. I bet.
Speaker 4: You know what nobody calls a game better than that. No,
Speaker 4: nobody does. Nobody does.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: And the city of Cincinnati is so fortunate to have
Speaker 4: you calling games to them at the collegiate and professional level.
Speaker 4: And I am so fortunate to have you as apartment.
Speaker 5: Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound really good this weekend when the Bearcats
Speaker 2: and Bengals both win.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. Let's do it, all right, let's
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 5: That's gonna do it for our show tonight.
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