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Speaker 1: Twenty six NFL Combine and you just hurt there in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Our final day here on Radio Row.

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Speaker 1: We're both going to be back in Denver tomorrow, but

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Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, Ben, you got some breaking news for us.

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Speaker 2: Way to go, man, I have been known on occasion.

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, first of all, historic last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: it's been a big topic right out here at the combine,

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA report card, and then of course this year

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Speaker 1: to the public, mostly because whatdy Johnson with the Jets

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Speaker 1: didn't want it out there that he his team hates

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Speaker 1: him for lack of a better word, as bad facilities

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Speaker 1: is just bad all around, right, bad owner ship.

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Speaker 2: We here in Denver, we don't know what that feels like.

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Speaker 1: We have great ownership, very much so, and the report

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Speaker 1: card reflects that reflects that. So anyways, now it's up

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Speaker 1: to people like Ben kayl and Kaylor's out there with ESPN.

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Speaker 2: She's been she just released the entire results, but okay,

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Speaker 2: she got the whole thing out of there.

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Speaker 1: That's an hour after Benjamin Albright got the Broncos report card.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I had the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: I just posted the Broncos stuff because that's what's of

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Speaker 3: interest to everybody here. The highest grade team ownership and

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Speaker 2: I think if you if you look like I said,

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Speaker 3: If not the best, they're they're in the top of

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Speaker 2: And then you know their worst grade. We need the

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Speaker 3: Now, that's something that's gonna get corrected when they move

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Speaker 3: that because I was texting the both for odd NSD

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Speaker 3: from these college locker rooms that look like a space

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Speaker 2: The Broncos have there, which you know, I mean, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have the all the led screens and.

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Speaker 3: The motorized drawers and you know, all the cool bells

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Speaker 2: Mean if you look at the rest of the grades

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Speaker 3: Because they didn't have any c's. The old D they

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Speaker 2: That's right, and so there needs to be contact with

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Speaker 3: I think the other part of this that people people

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Speaker 2: Uh, the O c's for last year. That's Joe Lombardy

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Speaker 3: Lowest grade outside of uh, outside of locker room where

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Speaker 3: then you had one B plus that was a nutrition

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Speaker 1: Mean quite literally and yeah, it was nice to see there.

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Speaker 1: You got general manager a our guy, George Way to Go,

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Speaker 1: A minus position coaches, B strength coaches, A weight room,

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Speaker 1: And again by comparison, so like the Pittsburgh Steelers are

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Speaker 1: just by comparison. I just read off all the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: This is the Steeler right now.

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Speaker 1: Was the number one on this then we don't have

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Speaker 2: It does not have the overall ranking. But Miami got

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Speaker 1: In fact, they you know, the Broncos might have had

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Speaker 2: But their lowest grade is a B.

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Speaker 2: Players feel about the organization. Absolutely, and certainly especially with

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Speaker 2: Know, okay, everything else they loved. And so that's that's

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Speaker 2: I'm bummed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad that you were able to get it,

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Speaker 3: Well, they created the strisside effects, that's what they did.

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Speaker 1: And and see, so to your point, this is going to

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Speaker 3: This year, what they did was they hit it in

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Speaker 3: have to you know, they're gonna what they'll do is

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Speaker 2: The screenshots, type it down, you know, kind of I

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Speaker 3: I cropped it this time on purpose, just to let

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Speaker 2: So somebody asked, will Peyton be angry with the Bee?

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Speaker 3: Ownership cares about that. That letter they got any plus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to you want to know that the players.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, absolutely, and if I was the penners

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Speaker 1: We get ratings, right, I mean, everybody wants to kind

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Speaker 1: some sound from Sean Payton's on Pat McAfee. We got

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the strikes, in effect, they created a

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Speaker 1: NFL and you it's just a it's a bad optic.

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Speaker 2: And listen, we we talked about the NFL for a living.

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Speaker 2: I love I love the NFL for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: I don't love them for this. I don't love the

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Speaker 1: way they approached this. They thought they were being smart,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's not gonna work out for.

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Speaker 2: Them very well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, most of the time, when you try to

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You know, you're you.

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Speaker 3: Your best bet is just to ignore it and and

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Speaker 1: We we have a lot of really good interviews coming up.

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Speaker 3: If Davis web does really well, he's probably getting a

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Speaker 3: head coaching job team this year. Does that mean Sean

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Speaker 3: Payton's going back to calling plays? This may be a

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Speaker 3: temporary respite. And if it is a temporary respite, if

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Speaker 3: Davis's Webb doesn't move on, there's all these if then scenarios.

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Speaker 3: If that's the case, and then I hope that Sean

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Speaker 3: Payton learns some things from Davis Webb and and gets

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Speaker 3: out of some of the archaic habits that he's been

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Speaker 3: and I'm hoping having Davis Webbin there will streamline things

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Speaker 3: to the Broncos and lead them to better success.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean certainly, and that's why, as Sean told

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Speaker 1: us on Tuesday, why they're doing this, because they think

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Speaker 1: they'll be better for it.

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Speaker 2: And I am looking for or too.

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Speaker 1: As you've heard in the clip there, seeing Sean as

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Speaker 1: a CEO coach, there could be a lot of value

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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think maybe he can get his

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Speaker 2: hands in the dirt a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: On maybe you know, I'm not gonna mention any particular

462
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Speaker 3: Troy Franklins, but you know receivers that that you know

463
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Speaker 3: need a little lead a little more.

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Speaker 2: Well, he likes teaching, Yeah, like we see that as that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is one thing that I mean, you know, whatever

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Speaker 2: else you think of Sean Payden, you.

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Speaker 1: Can side to the ball, yeah, I mean, and special teams.

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Speaker 1: He'll be out there in the middle of drills. He'll

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Speaker 1: stop everything. He'll talk to the offense, he'll talk to

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Speaker 1: the defense. He sometimes have go out there and talk

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Speaker 1: to special teams. He likes teaching, So I don't know,

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Speaker 1: in the moments, maybe either he had to be talked

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Speaker 1: into it. A little bit, or or talked himself into it.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, But I think when when all things said

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Speaker 1: and done, and he's been hinting at this now for

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Speaker 1: for a while, I think he's probably gonna end up

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Speaker 1: liking this a lot, and he's gonna feel like he

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Speaker 1: has a little more energy.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna feel like he's going to have a little

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Speaker 2: more time.

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Speaker 1: And I remember many instances where coaches that turned over

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Speaker 1: play calling to somebody else ended up saying no. It

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Speaker 1: allowed me to focus on a lot more things that

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Speaker 1: are happening in the moment of a game, rather than like,

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Speaker 1: what's the next play call? I was able to think

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Speaker 1: about okay, situational manage, yeah, down.

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Speaker 2: In distance, time on the clock, what's going on with

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Speaker 2: this and this? You know, let not have a.

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Speaker 3: Plus and a minus there like the minus is okay.

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Speaker 3: Don't put your thumb back on the scale by telling

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Speaker 3: Davis web hey, you call this, I want to see

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Speaker 3: this here.

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Speaker 2: Let me rotate these guys here and go back to the.

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Speaker 3: Bad habits that have slowed the Broncos down in the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna hear more from Sean and Pan

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Speaker 1: McAfee coming up here in just a little bit five

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Speaker 1: six six nine zeros or ka common spiritual text line.

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Speaker 1: This one the radio coverage fashion since received an a

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: It did It did from Mike Garafello, Ago Garfollo. We

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Speaker 2: do have that audio. If you wanted to play it

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Speaker 2: again at nauseum, I wouldn't be mad.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're not gonna play it on the air anymore

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Speaker 1: because we've lost the audio. But people can listen to

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Speaker 1: it on demanded because the podcast lives forever.

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Speaker 2: It does forever, but the audio. When I say we've

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Speaker 2: lost the audio, I say we have not lost the audio.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could hear that a lot over the

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Speaker 2: day next year. Raiders of the lost art situation.

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Speaker 3: They're right right, that's exactly right, and that we just

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Speaker 3: found it and if you open it back up, it'll

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Speaker 3: melt the.

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Speaker 1: Faces off everyone to say, exactly all right, Rober Rowling,

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Speaker 1: you're a Thursday Live from Radio row here in Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty six and fl combine. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, our good friend Emery Hunt from CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: is going to join us. He's their draft guru, really

519
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Speaker 1: super talented guy. We're gonna hear from him on his

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Speaker 1: thoughts in this upcoming draft. We'll get to that on

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Speaker 1: next on Kawa, Brian Edwards, Benjamin Albright, and we had

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Speaker 1: a chance schedup with a very good friend, Emery Hunt,

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Speaker 1: who does Fantastic War with CBS Sports. He's there one

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Speaker 1: of their draft gurus and you can find him on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at f Ball game Plan on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: And I started out by asking.

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Speaker 1: Emery about what's unique specifically in his opinion about this

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Speaker 1: upcoming twenty twenty six draft.

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Speaker 5: And again, I'm the type of person that where depth

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Speaker 5: is always where I start because I great so many

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Speaker 5: prospects to where I always seen the depth. I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna say it's you know, it dies after the third

533
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Speaker 5: round and whatnot, and you can find guys undrafted that

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Speaker 5: is a really good step in and start. So I

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Speaker 5: feel like this draft always has the amount of talent,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of it is because of what we

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Speaker 5: see in the college football. Everything trickles up because of

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Speaker 5: the avene of three, four, five our receiver sets. You're

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Speaker 5: going to see more receivers that are.

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Speaker 2: Ready to step in five product.

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Speaker 5: You see more corners at the readiest step in stations

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Speaker 5: that can cover and therefore We're going to get in

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Speaker 5: a bunch of that type of talent in the draft. Last,

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Speaker 5: but overall is just everywhere is deep. And I probably

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Speaker 5: the wrong person I asked, but everywhere is deep.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's fat in the middle, like I've

547
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Speaker 2: gotten fat in the middle.

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Speaker 3: The Broncos team could be looking at running Cure, obviously

549
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Speaker 3: former running back. As we look at this draft, is

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Speaker 3: there anybody that stands out at you as a guy

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Speaker 3: that maybe you're.

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Speaker 2: A Day one guy, because I think it knows that,

553
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Speaker 2: but maybe the Day two guy, that Day three guy

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Speaker 2: that the Broncos produce.

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Speaker 5: I look at what Sean Payton likes, you know, and

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Speaker 5: you know, think about those guys that could do more

557
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Speaker 5: than one thing. Jamari Taylor fifth step bow out of

558
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Speaker 5: Virginia by way of North Carolina Central. I covered him

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Speaker 5: when he was in I do a lot of Morga say,

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Speaker 5: gains a lot of games than the Metal I've seen

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Speaker 5: him before.

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Speaker 2: He's transferred up. Mike Washington a big fan of him.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was fanning him in the summer because

564
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Speaker 5: I was watching Mexico State film and I was on

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Speaker 5: the Arkansas Show. I was like, Hey, you guys got

566
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Speaker 5: a good one coming up and Washington, so he's just

567
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Speaker 5: got to stop putting ball in And I'm saying that's

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Speaker 5: number one. But if you were pigged right, but if

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Speaker 5: you if you whip off, rip off these sixty hour runs,

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Speaker 5: a fumble a little bit every now, and he'll say,

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Speaker 5: I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 2: You want to do that, right, So.

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Speaker 5: Those are two guys that I think would work. I

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Speaker 5: know everyone looks at uh, you know it's a derby. And

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Speaker 5: Price another one that can do more than one thing

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Speaker 5: stop putting the ball in the ground, but he helps

577
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Speaker 5: you as a returner as well. So those guys, to

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Speaker 5: me are are some that can fit what Denver does.

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Speaker 5: But they are also all three guys that the name

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Speaker 5: are supposed soy you mentioned that because it is pressure. Yesterday,

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton specifically said.

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Speaker 3: We were looking at running backs and whether or not

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Speaker 3: they correct the fumbling problem to get to the league.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, they will. He said, quarterbacks tend not

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Speaker 2: to correct the sack problem. The running backs can correct

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Speaker 2: the fumbles.

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Speaker 5: So that tells you the type of backs he's looking at. It.

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Speaker 5: Try looking at the all three guys that day.

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Speaker 2: But at least some Price and watched them.

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Speaker 5: Both of those guys legitimately game breakers, but sometimes the

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Speaker 5: bag you know, gets on the turf and then as

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Speaker 5: we saw in the playoff game, that kind of can't

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Speaker 5: happen for different So I feel like those guys will

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Speaker 5: be big fans of showing Sean Payton, but you got

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Speaker 5: to protect the football.

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Speaker 1: Was So the good news is you said those names,

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Speaker 1: because it Ben would have said those names.

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Speaker 2: Sean just scratches him up, like right, like them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah if all likes him, Nope, nope, no, but you

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Speaker 1: said them, so he's like, oh, okay, five five offootball linebacker.

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Speaker 1: This class looks really special, like on paper, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I see like four or five guys go in the

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Speaker 1: first round. If the Broncos decided not to get one

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Speaker 1: there at the end, say like a CJ. Allen for example,

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Speaker 1: who do you like maybe into day two because it

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Speaker 1: does feel like that's gonna be a priority for the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: One where the other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're thinking about day two and and and

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Speaker 5: this guy has been a high rise as an underrated guy,

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Speaker 5: but probably has taught himself to getting drafted maybe the

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Speaker 5: late day two earlier day three. And that's Eric Hunter

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Speaker 5: out of Morgan State. I called a lot of his

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Speaker 5: game at Morgan and he's always around the football. But

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Speaker 5: what was impressive about him this offseason was watching him

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Speaker 5: at the American Bowl in pass coverage, like every day

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Speaker 5: he had an interception. That's great for a lineback. He's

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Speaker 5: six to twenty five that in ranging cover. Then he

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Speaker 5: goes to HPC Legacy Bowl, Well, he had no he

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Speaker 5: didn't have to play because he was the best.

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Speaker 2: He already played in it.

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Speaker 5: So but he went out there and played in the game,

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Speaker 5: but also practice all week. First couple of plays a

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Speaker 5: practice in seven or seven from pick six, so it's like, look,

624
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Speaker 5: don't throw the.

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Speaker 2: Ball his way, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And so that's great for a linebacker because he's known

627
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Speaker 5: for being a tackler, but he's showed in these two

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Speaker 5: All Star Games his ability to get out there and cover.

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Speaker 5: And what I love to is seeing the Denver Bronco

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Speaker 5: scouts at both of those events. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: multiple scouts, So it's good to see that they're getting

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Speaker 5: out there on the on the road too. But Hunter

633
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Speaker 5: is someone you know, that is a name that's going

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Speaker 5: to start continue to bubble up as is the testing

635
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Speaker 5: season now comes and he runs at four or five

636
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Speaker 5: and whatnot, along with the height, length athleticism that he has.

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Speaker 2: That's a good name to keep in mind of the

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Speaker 2: ones that are some of the top tier. Besides maybe an.

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Speaker 1: RL Reeche who is going to be way gone, Sandy

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Speaker 1: Stikes probably give be way gun. Who are some of

641
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Speaker 1: the top guys that you do like in case someone

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Speaker 1: slips down maybe in range for Leronckets, Well, I'm.

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Speaker 2: A big c J.

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Speaker 5: Allen guy, Like, that's one of those guys. Love when

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Speaker 5: you think about sight unseen prospects, you know you're talking

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Speaker 5: about Georgia defenders. I'm talking about Utah defender, San Diego

647
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Speaker 5: c like Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to see that he plays. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: And Allen is that type of guy, like because he

650
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Speaker 5: can run, he can see ky he destroyed. And those

651
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Speaker 5: type of backers are I always joke that nowadays we

652
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Speaker 5: have these peekable linebackers and wait and see linebackers. Allen

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Speaker 5: is not that Allen is trying to run through the

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Speaker 5: the lineman to the back, and those the type of

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Speaker 5: backers that you kind of want. We don't see those

656
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Speaker 5: a lot nowadays everything has become sexy and going football

657
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Speaker 5: and passing spread informations out.

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Speaker 2: Allen is old school and I like that.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of somebody to think of. Al Wilson,

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Speaker 5: you know, that Temple Setter, the guy you was afraid

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Speaker 5: to be good in college to get to the pro. Like,

662
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Speaker 5: I don't have to go against that dude. That's the

663
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Speaker 5: type of thumper you want.

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Speaker 2: And h C J. Allen has that. Payton likes wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Scotto Bell somebody I kind of have my little thin,

666
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Speaker 3: uh you know, kind of kind of has a few

667
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Speaker 3: of the drops that maybe you don't like, but overall

668
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Speaker 3: the explosive abilities that really took off.

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Speaker 2: And he was home when he got to Yukon. What

670
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Speaker 2: do you think about scout of Bell? Yeah, and now

671
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Speaker 2: that was the thing.

672
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Speaker 5: Yukon played really well under Jim or Junior before you

673
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Speaker 5: got another job, but he was with my Yeah, let's

674
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Speaker 5: hope they get back to what they used to be

675
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: on the sunny a little bit. I know that's that's

676
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: long gone, but you know that was a good That

677
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Speaker 5: was a good era for the guy.

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Speaker 2: But Bell, to.

679
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Speaker 5: Somebody, he was their go to guy and he was

680
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Speaker 5: the guy that that kind of when they need a

681
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Speaker 5: big play, they found him and he made those players

682
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Speaker 5: that had to be made any time you're sitting there

683
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Speaker 5: thinking like man, this this team needs a playoff fensively, Boom,

684
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Speaker 5: he's the one that makes him a little small running

685
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Speaker 5: back they got.

686
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Speaker 2: But you know, I love I love his.

687
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Speaker 5: Game and the fact that when I said everything troubles up,

688
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: the time on task these guys half is so crucial

689
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Speaker 5: and key because you who used to say, oh guy,

690
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Speaker 5: it takes three years to for receiver to hit the

691
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Speaker 5: ground run, now seems of being able to hit the

692
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Speaker 5: ground running because how many damn Sometimes you watch film,

693
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Speaker 5: you see like eighty eight offen damn, Like that's two

694
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 5: games and plays back in the day like now you've

695
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Speaker 5: got eighty plays on all in sixty of those routes.

696
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Speaker 5: So imagine a time on task they're getting. And I

697
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: think that's the difference between what we're seeing then and now.

698
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Speaker 5: So that's why he's so polished coming out despite him

699
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Speaker 5: being a you kind as supposed to be somewhere else.

700
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Speaker 2: So my last one for me, So the quarterback is

701
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Speaker 2: such an interesting thing. Everyone always wants to talk about it.

702
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Speaker 1: But this draft class is really known for it in

703
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways because if you got the one

704
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Speaker 1: guy at the top, maybe Ty Simpson seeks into the

705
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Speaker 1: first round, but then it's it's kind of a lot

706
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Speaker 1: of a you know, sort of interesting name. We're just

707
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Speaker 1: on a trajectory of what we're expecting out of quarterbacks

708
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Speaker 1: coming out of college. I'd love to just get your

709
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Speaker 1: perspective on what you think that position and what teams

710
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Speaker 1: are looking for in that position going forward.

711
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Speaker 5: Teams have to look at the quarterback position. How you

712
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: look at point guards? Can you just give Buckets kinge

713
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Speaker 5: this tribute? If you give both nicks to Bola Grits,

714
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Speaker 5: he's Hayes King. That's exactly who Hans King is, right

715
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Speaker 5: and so but it's true we watch Hanes King. It

716
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Speaker 5: may not look pretty for you know, three quarters, but

717
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: that fourth quarter he about to get busy.

718
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He might run for one.

719
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Speaker 5: Hundred yards, he might throw for three hundred yards, but

720
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Speaker 5: you know he's gonna put his best in that effort

721
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Speaker 5: to make sure the team wins.

722
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Speaker 2: I think if teams look I'm looking.

723
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Speaker 5: For the proto type and just look at guys that

724
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Speaker 5: get the job done, because I've always said this that

725
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: no one player is that good. You need a team.

726
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 5: There's no such thing, this mythical creation in the woods

727
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Speaker 5: of a franchise quarterback. You just need a guy to

728
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Speaker 5: just do your winning loving don't mess up. Play big

729
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Speaker 5: when we need you to play big. We need you

730
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Speaker 5: to make five throz game. Make these five pros, and

731
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Speaker 5: that's how you win football games. So if teams start

732
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Speaker 5: to look at the quarterback position how they look at

733
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Speaker 5: every other position, there will be less whiffs at the

734
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Speaker 5: position because you're getting guys that can just go out

735
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Speaker 5: there and play. And I was talking to the Indianapolis

736
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Speaker 5: Coats and I said, think about who the Coats brought in,

737
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: you know, and he was talking about what guys you

738
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Speaker 5: brought in, Rolly Leonard.

739
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like Haynes King always.

740
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Speaker 5: When you look at the Louisville Kings of the UFL

741
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Speaker 5: this year, Jason Bean is bald in practice. He was

742
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Speaker 5: in the coast. They had Philip Walker. Oh yeah, Walker

743
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Speaker 5: before he went on to become the XFL.

744
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Speaker 2: It's ready.

745
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Speaker 5: So you got there's guys out there that so the

746
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Speaker 5: other mythods people put out there is that the only

747
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Speaker 5: you know sixteen.

748
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Speaker 2: Guys on the planet that can play shut out. That

749
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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense on itself. There's quarterback A't that hard?

750
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Speaker 2: You know?

751
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying, just find the right color, get the balls

752
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Speaker 5: to the right color, and don't make the mistake.

753
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Speaker 2: And if you can do that.

754
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Speaker 5: You could play winning for not granted there's levels of

755
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Speaker 5: the mahomes to you know those guys, but if you can.

756
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Speaker 5: We just saw Sam Donald have a Resurgers. We've seen

757
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: guys who over course the history do that. Jim Plunkett,

758
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Speaker 5: we've seen you know, Dan Fouse has success. We've seen

759
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: all of these guys. Man, So you could win a

760
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Speaker 5: super Bowl with a nick. Folks, you can win a

761
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Speaker 5: super Bowl with these guys. Just play your winning level.

762
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Speaker 5: Make sure the team is quarterback proof. Quarterback makes those

763
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Speaker 5: five fields.

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Speaker 1: You're good telling about your draft guide, man, I always

765
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Speaker 1: look forward to it.

766
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Speaker 5: Over a thousand prospects in the draft, guy, as always.

767
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Speaker 5: And if you have purchased the draft, guys, he's twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty when I've put the first one out right now

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Speaker 5: you have over twelve thousand individuals. Tabacorse, So not only

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Speaker 5: would you know your broncos, you know the NFL, you

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Speaker 2: As well too, because all those guys all was got

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Speaker 5: So you have a good understanding of the Rostercus we

776
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Speaker 5: know the rosters are transient. So when you see guys

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Speaker 5: it helps me keep a paraphin on the NFL season

782
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Speaker 5: before the college season as well. You know who's coming

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Speaker 5: up who's So it's a working and it's always valuable

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Speaker 5: no matter when you look at it.

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Speaker 2: I'll refer back to it, so it's always good.

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Speaker 1: Emery Hunt, such a cool, cool guy. Love this stuff

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794
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Speaker 1: just a little bit ago with Emory Hunt from CBS Sports,

795
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Speaker 1: who's their draft guru.

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Speaker 2: Check it out on demand.

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Speaker 1: Coming up a little later on tonight at Kacolorado dot

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Speaker 1: from another draft expert, coming up at four point thirty in.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Sikima with Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 1: He's their lead draft analyst, a pretty big name, pretty

802
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: big guy, and he's got some really good stuff. I'm

803
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Speaker 1: especially interested. I don't know if you got a chance

804
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Speaker 1: to listen to the clip that we put out earlier

805
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Speaker 1: on John ay Baron, but I'm especially interested to get

806
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Speaker 1: your take on what he had to say about first

807
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Speaker 1: round picks, the whole argument on do you need to

808
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Speaker 1: play them right away? Do they need to be future

809
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, all those kinds of things. So a

810
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Speaker 1: really good conversation with him. We're gonna get stack coming

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Speaker 2: You know, and maybe come back to this a little

814
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Speaker 2: bit later on, but I did want to ask you

815
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Speaker 2: because one of.

816
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Speaker 1: The big news stories out here that people were talking

817
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: about is that Anthony Richardson, he's going to be seeking

818
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: a trade, And I think about that in terms as

819
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: we're watching some of the clips of what's going on

820
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Speaker 1: out there at the Lucas Soyl just a little south

821
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Speaker 1: of us with the defensive line and the linebackers here

822
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Speaker 1: in a little bit, and thinking about what Anthony Richardson

823
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: stole the show out here at the Combine and maybe

824
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: what we learned from that process.

825
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean, there's somebody who said, for trades, you got

826
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: a traits to play in a league that don't get

827
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: don't get so enamored of them that you in the

828
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: modern NFL you can't learn on the job. At quarterback,

829
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: it is worth staying in school for the money and

830
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: getting the reps and then coming out later there is

831
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: it's sort of the opposite of the way it used

832
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Speaker 3: to be when Matt Stafford, you know, came out. You

833
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: want to get out as quick as well, get in

834
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: the league so you can get that first check, so

835
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Speaker 3: you get to the second contract, et.

836
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Speaker 2: Cetera, et cetera at quarterback and and boost your lifetime.

837
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: Ernis now with nil money, you can stay in.

838
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Speaker 3: School for the reps because head coaches don't have time

839
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: to teach you on a job. If you if you

840
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Speaker 3: can't hit the ground running in the NFL and you

841
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Speaker 3: don't have it by four or five games.

842
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Speaker 2: In, you're host and so that that's sort of the thing.

843
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: So Anthony Richardson needs to go somewhere where you can

844
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: get reps. Everybody knew this was coming. My gut is

845
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: he winds up in Minnesota. There's some other teams that

846
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: will be interested. A couple of other teams that will

847
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Speaker 3: be interested.

848
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Well, there's that clip of KOC give him a hug

849
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Speaker 2: after the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's you know, he's he could be the

851
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Speaker 3: next Kevin O'Connell, you know, Redemption Tour quarterback.

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Speaker 2: As it were. I would not be surprised if maybe

853
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Speaker 2: you wound up.

854
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Speaker 3: In Cleveland, you know, among there's a few other places,

855
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Speaker 3: maybe New York if they need some sort of fallback.

856
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Speaker 3: But I would suggest that I think that he will

857
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Speaker 3: wind up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: That'd be the leader in the clubhouse right now.

859
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Speaker 1: So he's an interesting one because some of the guys

860
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Speaker 1: that we are talking about that are going to be

861
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Speaker 1: drafted Day two and later, well, I mean you just

862
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Speaker 1: said they're not going to get the reps. They're neck

863
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Speaker 1: of the opportunities.

864
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson was taking fourth overall. He was the starter.

865
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Speaker 2: This is season. It's a Trey Lance situation. Yeah, I

866
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: mean Lance got hurt. But you can't, Nanthony rich.

867
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Speaker 3: You can't hit the league needing to grow on the

868
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Speaker 3: job at the quarterback position.

869
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Speaker 2: You can't. It just is not feasible anymore. It used

870
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Speaker 2: to be a thing where you could do and you

871
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Speaker 2: don't have the time as a head coach to get

872
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Speaker 2: that guy. So that's why guys.

873
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Speaker 3: Like bow Nicks or Michael Pennix who have been in

874
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: the league a long time, have been in college a

875
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: long time, are getting drafted high now as these you

876
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: guys got a ton of reps in college and they're

877
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Speaker 3: theoretically ready to hit the ground run. It took bow

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Speaker 3: you know, five or six games to kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of get going and then we saw it kind of

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Speaker 2: to be at least serviceable half a season in or

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Speaker 2: your host. All right, we are live.

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