1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday, everybody. Dave Logan, Ryan over, Rick Louis, what's up? Rick? 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 3: Guys gonna be here? Nice flannel Dave and Ryan. I 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: don't consider this flannel. He should though, it's got a 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: hood on the back. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 4: You know why you don't consider it flannel because it's not. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: But it's flannel material. It's it's a it's a flannel hood. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 4: It's got to look to it. Yeah, let me just 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 4: put the end of that. That's the end of that. 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Happened very quickly because we have Free Franklin joining us 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: in a second. If I came in wearing that, what 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: would you say? 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: I would say your wife dressed you, and I would 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: applaud the effort. 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Comics, great als outline and bring on Broncos Wide Receiver 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Live from Radio Row. Troy Franklin, Troy, you're on with 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and Rick Lewis. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: How are you, sir? 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 5: I'm doing pretty well. 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 6: How are you guys doing? 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: We're doing that, man, We're doing good. Troy, appreciate you 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: coming on. So if you look back on what was 23 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: a really really good year, uh, and it didn't end 24 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: good and you had the hamstring thing. But what couple 25 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: of things sort of strike you about this year in 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: terms of how your game improved from year one the 27 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: year two. 28 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 6: Man, bro Really, I'm not gonna lie, like, really the whole. 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 5: Season for me, Man, just coming off my rookie year, 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 5: you know, get sprinkled in, you know, just making my 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 5: plays when I had to, when I did, and stuff 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 5: like that, you know, to just kind of, you know, 33 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 5: really being a significant piece of the office in my 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: second year, you know, just really kind of meant a 35 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: lot to me, you know, and just kind of take 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: a testaments to the work I put in, and you 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: know during the off season, you know, training camp, just 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: showing everybody what I could do. And I think that's 39 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 5: just kind of the biggest thing I took away from. 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: It, you know. 41 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's kind of just blessed to you know, 42 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 5: be able to out there and do that. 43 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: Hey, Trian, how did it feel to you personally to 44 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: come so close to being in the Super Bowl? We 45 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: know as broadcasters, how it felt. How does it feel 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: to you? How did you How did you take that? 47 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: How long did it take for you to get over it? 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: Man? Yeah, I still think about it to this day 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: a little bit you know, because obviously, you know, just 50 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: coming off that, you know, my first year ten seventh, 51 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: then we go into our second year, man, have an 52 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: amazing year, and then you know we're down a couple 53 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: of guys and stuff like that. You know, you just 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: kind of with you know, you had everybody and you know, 55 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 5: just everything is just how it's supposed to be. But 56 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 5: you know, things happened in the game, and that's that's 57 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 5: what you signed up for, man, you know, so it's 58 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: all a part of it. 59 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: It's all a part of it, Troy. 60 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: We've heard from some of the other Broncos that have 61 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: been out there for the Pro Bowl, maybe some radio 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: row interviews, seeing the different Super Bowl banners, seeing the 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Patriots versus the Seahawks, and even Zach Allen said in 64 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: an interview a couple of days ago that he's angry, 65 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Like he's quite literally angry. Is this something that maybe 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: can fuel you guys, especially some of those core players 67 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: in your locker room that are out there. 68 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I think we're definitely all angry. 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: Man, just being one game away. You know, you just 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: show that pain, man, you know, and you know Sound 71 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 5: talks about it all the time, and just just how 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: just how the feeling of it is, and you know, 73 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: just when you win it all, just making it just 74 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 5: the memories you. 75 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 6: Did from me, you know. 76 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: So I think we just all wanted to experience that. 77 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 5: It just came a little bit short this year. 78 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: Man, Troy, last question for me. 79 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: You know, you you made, as you said, really such 80 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: significant contributions this year. I thought as a wide receiver, 81 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: I thought you took a lot of real positive steps 82 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: from year one to year two. So maybe a little 83 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: bit too early to focus on year three, But I 84 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: always thought wide receivers have a couple of things in 85 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: an offseason that they want to to focus on to 86 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: get better at. Have you have you determined what if 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: you agree with that, have you determined what couple of 88 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: things you're going to be most interested in this offseason 89 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: and trying to trying to add to your game, trying 90 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: to improve with your game. 91 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, looking after looking at my season, you know, 92 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 5: once it ended, I think there's a couple of things 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: that I wanted to, you know, just. 94 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: Work on a little more and just have better in 95 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 6: my game. 96 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: And a couple of those things where just my play strength, 97 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: you know, I just want to be a little stronger, 98 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: just you. 99 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 6: Know, running through contact, running. 100 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 5: My routes, you know, just with a little you know, 101 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 5: contected catches, you know, bumps when I'm making a catch 102 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 5: and shit like that, and me stuff like that. And 103 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 5: then yeah, my release game, I want to get that. 104 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: A little better. 105 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: You know. 106 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: I'm just making sure, you know, just comfortable with my releases, 107 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 5: moving guys, you know, manipulating them, things like that. And 108 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: then there's always you know the small stuff, my breaks, 109 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: eyes to the ball, catching it. You know, it's all 110 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: the technique things, man, just you know, making sure I'm 111 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: honing in on those, you know, toning those up and 112 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 5: just making sure everything is correct. 113 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: I'm talking to Troy Franklin. Troy follow up on Dave's question. 114 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: Is there a wide receiver out there, past or present 115 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: that you model your game after. 116 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I try to steal from a little bit of everybody. 117 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 5: You know, not everybody, but you know everybody that's kind 118 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: of you know, producing doing everything. You know, I'm from 119 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 5: the same city of Devontae Adams, so he's one of 120 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 5: the guys I kind of, you know, like to watch 121 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 5: a lot. 122 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 6: But you know there's other guys like. 123 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson Smittee you know, cool you've been I like 124 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley a lot too. You know, there's a couple 125 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: of guys that you know, I try to steal from 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: and you know, just see how it can have that 127 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: into my game for sure. 128 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: That's a good list. 129 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Last one for me, Davis Webb, your new offensive coordinator. 130 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I know you worked for the quarterbacks coach last year, 131 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: but what do you think about that as your new OC? 132 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's gonna be pretty cool for us, 133 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: you know. I think it's gonna be a little different 134 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: for us, you know, and we'll we'll have a little 135 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: different taste of his offense. And I think, you know, 136 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: I think it will just be good for us to 137 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: you know, have a change up, you know, just with 138 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 5: you know, Sean calling to plays and things like that. 139 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 5: You know, just having Davis Webb, you know, get a 140 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 5: chance to go out there and call his things there. 141 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: You know, you see how that goes for sure. 142 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, you're out there with infrared fabric. Tell 143 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: me a little more about that. 144 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that good? 145 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 5: That good old in credit where man, you know how 146 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 5: use those all year? They're really good. Just pot for 147 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: me and all the athletes, you know, We're always running 148 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 5: year round and we just need recovery whenever we can 149 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: get it. So I think in Credit Where is great 150 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 5: just you know, product to news whenever you need just 151 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: some quick recovery, quick fast recovery, you know, just with 152 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: that infrared life stuff and you know, just the compression 153 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 5: that they have so all the you know, good devices 154 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 5: that they have and you know, so yeah, that's that 155 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: you deal with that stuff for sure. 156 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: Very cool. 157 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, you people can check it out at in credit 158 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: where dot Com looks really cool, really looks really really cool. 159 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: Troy. 160 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Really appreciate the time, man, you know, best of luck 161 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: this offseason. We can't wait to get back at it 162 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: coming up here in a few months. 163 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Thanks man. 164 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, appreciate you guys. 165 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Thanks Franklin. There you go. You have some 166 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: of that gear to wear. 167 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: It was kind of cool, you know what I mean, 168 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: infra red fabric something. 169 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get the more they don't have it in flannel, 170 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: but I still think I could not wear flannel. 171 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: That's the whole point. 172 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the point. 173 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: That's your line at Cole's, the Ryan Edwards line to. 174 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Take a break from flannel. Every so often it is. Listen, 175 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: it's it's sixty degrees outside. I almost did not wear 176 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: flannel today, but I didn't want to. 177 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: Let you know, I've never seen you with that flannel, honestly, 178 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: have you, Dave? You see him every time? A couple 179 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: of times? Like what what like a T shirt? 180 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: Like a whole time in three years? Okay, it's a flannel. 181 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Polo camp or wear a lot of polos training camp. Yeah, 182 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: but no, it's unseasonably warm outside. 183 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Pleasant pleasant, Yes, it's very nice. Uh, good stuff from Troy. 184 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: And you know, the wide receiver room, I guess for 185 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: a moment we talk about that, that feels like the 186 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: room that if you're to ask Broncos fans like you 187 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: pulled them on the position groups inside linebackers certainly going 188 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: to come up. But wide receiver room, that seems like 189 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: the one that a lot of people want the team 190 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: to look at. 191 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: Oh well, I think I think they will address playmakers 192 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: this offseason, whether that's wide receiver or tied end or 193 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: running back. I'm quite sure they're going to address the 194 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: running back room now. The wide receiver room is interesting 195 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: to me. Again, and I said, all year long, I 196 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: thought the ball was on the ground too much, and 197 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: so that I mean you can improve wide receivers. Not 198 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: that other positions can't improve, but wide receivers I think 199 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: can improve as much as any position in football from 200 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: year to year. You have to have the requisite talent 201 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: to play. I mean, you can't take somebody who couldn't 202 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: play wide receiver. I'm not looking at you, no, No, 203 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: I mean you can't. You know you can't take my 204 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: one of my favorite uber drivers. I mean a good 205 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: friend of mine, guy that I've gotten to know over 206 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: the years. 207 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: I love the guy. 208 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: I'm quite sure he could not play wide receiver in 209 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: the NFL. It's all right, Sure he's a hell of 210 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: an uber driver. But I think you can improve in 211 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: that position. I do think playmakers and the ability to 212 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: have big plays on offense is something that this team 213 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: will look at. I like the questions that he was 214 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: asked between the three of us, and especially Dave. The 215 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: first one about what would you improve upon in this offseason? 216 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: And did you feel Dave like he he said the 217 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: right things you were looking for. 218 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: Well, I just improve upon. 219 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: I learned that question my rookie year in the NFL 220 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: and my receiver coach, and I've told the story was 221 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Raymond Berry, who's a Hall of Fame receiver. 222 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: And he said, as we had our checkout. 223 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: Meeting individual meetings, he said, listen, find two things in 224 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: the off season, two or three things to get better 225 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: at that you can absolutely get better at. So with 226 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: respect to Troy, he talked about his release. His first 227 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: comment I think was really important because he talked about 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: being able to play through contact. He's a slightly built guy, 229 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: and defensive backs are so strong these days that they. 230 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: Can jostle you. 231 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: If they can jostle you off your gate, off your stride, 232 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: they can do that and rarely will they get called 233 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: for past interference. But it's almost the same as grabbing 234 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: a guy, bigger guy, right, If they can have, you 235 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: lose stride and lose a little bit of. 236 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 4: Territory. 237 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: And I think that happened too often with Troy, So 238 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: I think he's got to You don't have to add 239 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: a whole lot of weight, but you have to add 240 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: strength to be able to play through that. 241 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: And and he mentioned that first. 242 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: I also would have said, although I don't know that 243 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: he said, he might have mentioned it in five or 244 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: six things, you know, catching the ball? Yeah, man, you 245 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: you got to catch what it's time to work. You 246 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: got to catch a thousand passes a day. You don't 247 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: have to run a thousand routes, but you got to 248 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: catch literally by a judge machine, which I did, and 249 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: catch a thousand balls a day, different angles over the 250 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: shoulder looking by. I mean, you can just become a 251 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: much more consistent ball catcher by doing that. 252 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 4: That was my next question for you. 253 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: I could see how wide receivers can work on their 254 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 3: route running, but the. 255 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: Ball catching thing. 256 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: My question was when you by the time you come 257 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: out of the NFL or out of college into the 258 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: NFL and you're drafted in the NFL, how much better 259 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: can you get as a ball catcher at that point? 260 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: Oh, I think I think a ton of it. 261 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: A ton You may you may never be an elite 262 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 3: ball catcher because that I mean, part part of it 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: is God given. Part of it is maybe you've developed 264 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: over the years, but part of it is just your ability. 265 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean to be able literally when the ball is thrown, 266 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: to be able to look at the cross in the. 267 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: Tip of the ball. 268 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: But there is some natural ability that goes with that. Yeah, 269 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: and he's got to develop it. I mean, I don't 270 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: think there's a guy in that room. This is my 271 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: opinion that cannot be a more consistent ball catcher all 272 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: of them. 273 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: Courtland memes. 274 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: Him Pat Bryant was really Pat Bryant might have been, 275 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: in limited time, the most consistent ball catcher they had. 276 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I would challenge, I would challenge a guy 277 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: like Courtland. Listen, if you want to, I mean, play 278 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: this game another five six years. I want to help 279 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: you become the best version of you. I want to 280 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: see you become a world class all catcher. And I 281 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: think Courtland has that ability. I just don't know that 282 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: he's completely tapped into it. And how many did you 283 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: say to catch a week? One thousand, one thousand a week? Yep, 284 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: thousand a week. I'm surprised they don't do that well. 285 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: I'm really surprised that already. Sometimes you know, young cats, 286 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: I mean, think about what you were doing when you 287 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: were twenty three, twenty four years of age. You want 288 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 3: to work and the working on the release is important, 289 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: but that's that's that's all the stuff. I mean that's 290 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: important for an NFL wide receiver. Right if you if 291 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: you can't get off the line of scrimmage, you can't play. 292 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that's not important. There's different ways 293 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: for you to work on that. But that's that's what 294 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: what we used to call like the easy work, right, 295 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: the easy work. You stay in the league longer by 296 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: becoming a guy who's a prolific ball catcher. So in 297 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty type opportunity, you're going to come 298 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: down with it eighty five against fifteen, right, You that 299 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: you stay in the league by catching the ball, and 300 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: that's sort of been overlooked, I think in the NFL 301 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: these days. 302 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 4: When you look at RJ. A. 303 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: Harvey, would you consider him a natural ball Yes, and 304 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: he's a running back obviously, but he just looks so comfortable. 305 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: He's got really really good hands. You think that was 306 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: just natural ability because he's a running back. Well, he 307 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: was a quarterback. 308 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: He was a. 309 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: Quarterback, and you can tell that he's quarterbacks have to 310 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: handle the ball all the time. You can tell that RJ. 311 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: Harvey's really natural handling the ball. 312 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of Broncos fans again, I am on 313 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Twitter for the show, of course, I do this for you, 314 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I do this for me, I do this for a listeners. 315 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: They all want AJ Brown. It would really, really, really 316 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: really like the Broncos to trade for AJ Brown. 317 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 318 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: You know you think about his season and it felt 319 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: like a bad year for him, like overall, Like when 320 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: I think about what I remember from him, I remember 321 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: more of the down moments, more of the games where 322 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: he didn't to get targeted or didn't seem to be 323 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: involved in the game. Plant it with seventy eight catches 324 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: for over a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. 325 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: He's I mean to me, he's he's a dude. But 326 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: I mean, forget about what they'd have to give up 327 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: to get him. If before I brought AJ Brown to Denver, 328 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: I'd want to take him out to dinner and spend 329 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: two or three hours just talking to him, getting to 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: know his personality. And you can tell a lot about 331 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: a guy, I think in that setting. But I would 332 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: he'd be another guy I would challenge, like, Bro, I've 333 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: seen you make great catches and then I've seen the 334 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: ball act like it's going to break both your hands 335 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: when it hits. So if I'm going to make that 336 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: kind of investment in that position. 337 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: Let alone pay him what he's making. But how you 338 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: going to get him? 339 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that the next four 340 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: or five years you are I'm here to help you 341 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: become the best receiver in the league period. If that's 342 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: your mindset and you want to work, that's then that's good. 343 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: This is the right place for you. But if you're. 344 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: Happy making whatever he's making twenty seven million a year, 345 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: and you're gonna sort of set your own agenda here, 346 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: miss me on. 347 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: That AJ Brown and George Pickens, I would take a 348 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: J Brown. 349 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: I would too. What about you, Rick? Yeah, same, AJ Brown. 350 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: He's not more talented than George Pickens, but there has 351 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: to you have to have you have to have an 352 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: accountability level of play. And I've seen George Pickens where 353 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: he I'm thinking that, dude, right there is one of 354 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: the four or five best receivers in the world. And 355 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: then I've seen him where it's like he looks completely 356 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: disinterested in playing the game of football. And I've seen 357 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: AJ Brown not quite as bad, but I've seen AJ 358 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: Brown that way too. That's why I think you got 359 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: to You got to do your homework, talk to people 360 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: that know him, and then you got to talk to 361 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: him yourself if that's what you want to do, and 362 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: find out like, I mean, are you happy that you're 363 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: Aj Brown and making twenty seven million? 364 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: Is that it? 365 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: You won a Super Bowl? He went to another one. 366 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: I mean, what drives you? What do you I want 367 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: him to tell me. Listen, I want to be the 368 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: best wide receiver on the planet. All right, If that's real, 369 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: and you're willing to invest, because I'm going to invest 370 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 3: hard work with you, let's get it. 371 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 372 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: For me Pickings, there seems to be some sort of 373 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: personality disconnect from me. Aj Brown to a point as well. 374 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: That's why I've said AJ Brown too. But these guys 375 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: that have that kind of talent making the kind of 376 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: money they're making. 377 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: You need to be a hell of a coach to 378 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: get through to these guys. 379 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: And I think that's the biggest part of the problem 380 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: in today's at National Football League. These guys are already 381 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: rock stars a guy. If you bring the wrong guy 382 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: in here, it not ruined your locker room, but it 383 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: can it can head it down the wrong road. 384 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: Sure. 385 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: I had a veteran NFL coach years ago. I asked 386 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: this coach about tarall Owens bringing tarall Owens into town. 387 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 3: It's a guy that I have known for forty years, 388 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: and he said life's too short. 389 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that life's too short. Well, you 390 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: know it's seeing with. 391 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: George Pickens, he's doing a new contract. 392 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: I mean, aj Brown right now, does. 393 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: It not surprise I mean, does it not give you 394 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: reason to push back that Jerry Jones has not given 395 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: George Pickens a brand new contract. 396 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: That should absolutely be a little bit of red flag. 397 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: Now you wonder what his contract's going to look like 398 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: because Cede Lamb right now is being thirty four per 399 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson's thirty five, and of course Jamar Chase is 400 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: over forty. I can't think George Pickens is going to 401 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: reset the market, but he's gonna be in the thirties, 402 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: probably mid thirties. 403 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: I would imagine. You don't think so. 404 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: I I think talent wise, absolutely, But I think I'll 405 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: just say this, I think teams have to It's not 406 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: my money. You got to be careful before you invest 407 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: that kind of money in a guy. You got to 408 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: make sure that the guy is who you know he is, 409 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: and he's going to be that guy after he cashes 410 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: that first check of like a thirty five million dollar bonus. Right, 411 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: let me seeee lamb. I thought he dropped the ball 412 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: too much, too But a really good player. The other 413 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: two world class receivers. But George Pickens from a talent standpoint, 414 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: is in that category with them. From a consistent production. 415 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 3: I'm here to work. I'm here. I mean I saw that, 416 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: we all saw that, whatever that game was, that he 417 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 3: became sort of detroit. Yeah, I mean we're jogging off 418 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: the line. We're not even trying to blow in the 419 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: running game. Man, I'm telling you I would if I 420 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: were his coach. I mean, I'd be fired for sure, 421 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: because it's easier to get rid of me than it 422 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: is him. 423 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: But we'd have been in a room and there'd have 424 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 4: been gray brain matter all over the ceiling. 425 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: Bro. 426 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: So, I mean, what is this? 427 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: He was awful? 428 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: Tell me what exactly what are we doing? 429 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: What? 430 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Explain to me what you're doing. Then I'm gonna explain 431 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: to you what I see and. 432 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: Back through a couple of interceptions. As a direct result. 433 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't listen, You can't. You can't win with 434 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: guys like that. If they play like that. Give me 435 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: a lesser talented receiver that is accountable, that wants to 436 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 3: work in the running game. 437 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't, you know, I don't. I don't 438 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: want the Uber driver. 439 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: I mean I want a guy that has talent to 440 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: play in the league, but I want an accountable guy 441 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: that every now and then in today's game, puts himself 442 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: behind what's best. 443 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: For the team. 444 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: Some people that are jealous you of your own Nuber driver. 445 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: No, I don't have my own Nuber driver. 446 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: But when I when I take Uber, I do call yes, Okay, gotcha, 447 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: and I'll put his name out there and sell number 448 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: for those of you that may be in need of 449 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: a world class Uber driver. 450 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: Maybe not a great wide receiver. 451 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: I don't think he can play wide receiver. For the record, 452 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: I'm not Dave's Uber driver in case you're no, No. 453 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: It's not Rick. 454 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: Speculation is not like Arick. 455 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: For the record, I just want to know about don't 456 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: drive Dave if he asks. 457 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: Definitely not Rick you. I mean, seriously, I know we 458 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: got to go to a break. I love you very much, 459 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: but you are a god awful driver. Are you talking about? Seriously? 460 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: Drive? 461 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: I say this from where, what's the reference on this? 462 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: I've been in a car with you. You drive like 463 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: you're eighty four years old. In Santa Barbara at four pm. 464 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying this is not true. This 465 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: is fake news. 466 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: You're a he's not a bad driver, but he's gripping 467 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 4: the wheel so. 468 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Hard at ten and two, and it's like it's so 469 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: hard it makes me nervous. Oh god, Okay, all right, 470 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: you are fake news. I gotta rebuttle coming up. 471 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Ye, all right, we're going to fall off with that. 472 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: It's just seven hundred and nine yards six receiving touchdowns. 473 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: There is some nice thing. 474 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: There's a big reason why the Broncos felt inclined to 475 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: move on from Devon Bailey as they saw a jump 476 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: from Troy Franklin that Pat Bryant seemed like he was 477 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: coming along quicker. And I think at the time maybe, 478 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: and they, I don't know if they admit this. Evan 479 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Ingram was expected to be a much bigger facet in 480 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: the offense he ended up. He still ended up with 481 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: fifty catches, but certainly when he got here, I think 482 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: we had higher aspirations. 483 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Veley move would be correlated with 484 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: Pat Bryant, maybe more than Franklin. But again, some of 485 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: the stuff you mentioned, I think it's perfect right, You've 486 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: got to get stronger. 487 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: You've got to be able. 488 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: I mean it's hand to hand combat sometimes in that 489 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: league with defensive backs, and you've got to. 490 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: Be strong enough that you can hold your. 491 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: Own five six six nine zeros or kwe kamas Berdal 492 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: text line. 493 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: A lot of people tram me in. 494 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: Some people roughb Alec Pierce as an option for the 495 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: wide receivers. 496 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: Weading about Alec Pierce out of Indianapolis. 497 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: I know who he is. I got to be honest 498 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: about it. 499 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: I'd have before I act like I've got a real 500 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: opinion on whether he'd be a guy that they should 501 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: be interested in. I'd have to go back and look 502 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: at I would do the same thing me personally. I'd 503 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: do the same thing with Aj Brown. I mean, the 504 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: Broncos played Philadelphia this year, so I got to see 505 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: AJ Brown up close and personal, seeing him, you know 506 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 3: a number of times on TV. But with TV you 507 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: don't get to see exactly what he's doing when the 508 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: ball's not coming to him. 509 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: So Pierce had Pierce had good numbers. 510 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, it's remarkable. 511 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: So he got to one thousand yards as well, but 512 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: he did it with half the catches forty seven catches 513 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: for over one thousand yards. 514 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: You hit a long way against the Broncos. 515 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: He did, averaging twenty one point three per catch. 516 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: That's that that's pretty hard to do in the. 517 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: NFL twenty two point three last year, and he had 518 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: eight hundred and twenty four receiving yards. 519 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Now, he's a good receiver. He's gonna be a free 520 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: agent this year. 521 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't think any apples can keep him, so he's 522 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the names out there. You know, 523 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: it's an interesting discussion, right. I don't know if Alex 524 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Pierce is a true one where I know Aj Brown 525 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: and I think George Pickens can be. So if you're 526 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: adding to the room, that's what I'm looking Are. 527 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: You advocating adding George Pickens? 528 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: I want to have the conversation about it. I the 529 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: personality we're doing. We're having a conversation. 530 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: My question was, are you advocating having George Pickens join 531 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: the Broncos. 532 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: Seems like a fairly straightforward question. 533 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: If I'm lining up the pros and cons, I see 534 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: more pros than con. 535 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Let me go back and rephrase the question so all 536 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: of us can better understand. 537 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 4: Are you advocating adding. 538 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: George Pickens to the Broncos in twenty twenty six. 539 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: If that's my only option, then yes. 540 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: Does there always have to be a qualifier with you? 541 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: Well? 542 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: Not always? 543 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So you are you're saying you're on record. I 544 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: was trying to get you on record. I know you 545 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: were advocating adding George Pickens. 546 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah for the question, thank you I heard. Yes, that's 547 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: all I need. You know. 548 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 3: Back to your point last segment, Dave from me, I'd 549 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: be concerned about adding a diva type wide receiver to 550 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: this room. They're all divas well, says the wide receiver. 551 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: You know what you would do? 552 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: Even now I'm just kidding, but you know a guy 553 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: like Alec Pierce, I don't. I don't look at him 554 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: as being a diva, but that's the kind of guy 555 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: I would look at a guy who's still got on upside. 556 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: He's a grinder with that is a white dude, right, yeah, 557 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: second round pick Is that. 558 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: Why you don't look at him as a divae? No, 559 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: not necessarily. 560 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 3: I happen to know a couple of races wide receiver 561 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: former white wide receiver who's the devas room White wide 562 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: receives divas and black wide receivers are divas saying, well, 563 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: you were a diva, weren't you. I wanted the ball, 564 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: but I mean, but everybody wide receiver, I don't remember, 565 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: Like if I didn't get the ball, just standing and 566 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: power and watching to play unfold, I don't. I don't 567 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: think I was that bad. That's not you. No, but no. 568 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: I would look for a guy, and not necessarily a 569 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: white guy. But guy was coachable, a guy who's a grinder. 570 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: Well there's the hotline alan online one. I said, not 571 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: necessarily a white guy. 572 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: This segment by Steel Shovels. 573 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Deep, I. 574 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: Agree with you in terms of being careful about adding 575 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: a diva. 576 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: And this locker room seems so tight. That's what I said. 577 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: You know you can't It doesn't take too many of 578 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: those dudes to tear. 579 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: Down the locker room. Absolutely so. 580 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: But you can't be afraid to add talent either, like this. 581 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: That's the that's the payoff right in that Rather at 582 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: this point, considering the window we're in, I taking the stands, Okay, 583 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: I'd rather add a diva personality to the locker room 584 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: and find a way to manage that that upgrades my room. 585 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm done with we gotta we gotta be throwing to 586 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: littlejer and Humphrey ten times in a game. 587 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: I'm good with that. 588 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, that that's that's not my choice either. But I 589 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: think it is uncertain, even with you as the coach, 590 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: that you can. 591 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: Add any diva you want. 592 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: To to the locker room and to use your vernacular, 593 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: find a way to manage it. 594 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: I think some guys. 595 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: Are who they are, and they've proven it over the 596 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: course of their NFL careers, and yet oh, when it 597 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: gets into a contract year, we seem to be focused 598 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 3: and making plays and everything else. I heard the same. 599 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: I heard your logic when it came to Antonio Brown. 600 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: How did that work out? 601 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: Not great? 602 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: I mean great, great player? Yeah, I mean on the. 603 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Field, so of course a player. When was my logic 604 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: on Antonio Brown. 605 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 4: His career? No? No, you have two of these. 606 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: No, I said, I've heard the same logic when it 607 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: came to Antonio Brown, not from you, from others. Oh, 608 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: he's got he's got unbelievable time. I mean, the Patriots 609 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: thought it, Brady Brady, I mean advocated to bring Antonio 610 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: Brown to him. How'd that work out? I just I 611 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: think you have to be careful, really careful. I mean, 612 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: you can have a if the leadership is really strong. 613 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: But what will happen if the leadership is really strong 614 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: and you bring the wrong guy or a couple of 615 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: guys in. There's going to be battles in that locker room, 616 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: that leadership. The guys that do it the right way 617 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: are like, bro, we're not doing this, and then that 618 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: that creates a problem too. 619 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not saying you can't. 620 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: Find guys that have different personalities and kind of march 621 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: to their own drummer. I mean, I'm that's fine, but 622 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: they have to be guys that are going to say, 623 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: listen that what what's important here? The most important thing 624 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: is what we do as a team. 625 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: Period. Second and league of drops Dave who the Broncos. 626 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: So until you're advocating a guy like Antonio Brown. 627 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm advocating a guy like George Pickens, who is the 628 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl MVP. 629 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 630 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: If I would have known that, Hell, I had changed 631 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: my mind a long time ago. Why didn't you tell me? 632 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: You should have told me. People are going to think 633 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: you're the super driver. 634 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 4: You're not. I mean, you got us, They're safe. I shouldn't. 635 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: I should be more appreciative. I should be I should 636 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: be two o'clock in the morning. I'm dropping you off. 637 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: And there's nothing wrong. Well, there's nothing wrong with the 638 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: ten and two on the on the wheel. There's nothing 639 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: wrong with that. No, not at all. 640 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: Why did you say that? 641 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm still? 642 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: Is he driving slow? 643 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: Because yes? No? Yeah, no, oh my god, so just slow. Yeah, 644 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: that's okay. 645 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: You know, we we completely turned the word merge into 646 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: a three syllable word. 647 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: Trying to get you're just on the making stuff. 648 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: No. 649 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: Four the highway. We merged on the high and it 650 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: was not a where. It was not a merge, it 651 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: was a where were we talking? Where was I driving? 652 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: You? You were driving in southern California? 653 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: Talking about Hello, I didn't rent a card. 654 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: I didn't rent a card. 655 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: So the California you're talking, I'll tell you during we're 656 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: thinking of somebody else. 657 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: No, I'm no, I'm not. There was It was an 658 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: night to remember. 659 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe you forgot. It's been a couple of 660 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: years ago. I might need a reminder. Yeah, well, what 661 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: really happened? I'm happy to do it. 662 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: Turning the word merge into a three syllable. That's so good. Yeah, 663 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: that is so good. All right, merger, merging, merger. 664 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Five six zero. Uh, Ryan, too much fantasy football for you? 665 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Another one using Ryan's logic, if we don't pick up Pickens, 666 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: maybe Garret Bowles could be our number one. 667 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Well receiving touchdowns. 668 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: And okay, I missed the probo flag football. I didn't 669 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: watch any of it. 670 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: What I watched a little bit of it, but and 671 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: it was as expected right here. 672 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: One for you, Ryan seven dates concerns about pickings should 673 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: be talked about in an interview before deciding, because I 674 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: agree with Ryan. Has pros outweigh the cons. He's got 675 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: as a receiver, He's got plenty of pros. He is 676 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: a gifted athlete, an unbelievably quick, big wide receiver. It 677 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: just boils down to the rest. I mean, can he 678 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: Is he going to manage the rest after you give 679 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: him what like, let's just say for a four year 680 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: deal for one hundred and let's just say one hundred 681 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: and twenty five million with eighty five million guaranteed. 682 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm good. 683 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: George Pickens's going to be different than what he was 684 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 3: this year in Dallas when he was playing in the 685 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: final year of his deal looking for a free agent deal. 686 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: If the answer is. 687 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: Yes, or we we think reasonably yes, I'm fine because 688 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: he's got the kind of talent that you would love 689 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: to have. I'm just not I'm not convinced the answers yet. 690 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: On a team with Ceedee Lamb, he caught ninety three 691 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: passes for one twenty one yards and nineteen pounds. 692 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: Can't argue there's nothing to argue about his overall production, 693 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: for sure, nothing. 694 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: But there were a couple of games and you pointed 695 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: him out. We talked about Detroit, Minnesota where he had 696 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: like thirty some receiving yards and he looked as interested. 697 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: And so if you're Sean, yeah, you want to know, Hey. 698 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 3: It costs his quarterback like two or three interceptions because 699 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: he's just half assing on a route. I mean, if 700 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: you could live with a handful of games that he 701 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 3: does that and guarantee him eighty five million dollars a year, 702 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: I can't. But if you can, well, then you should 703 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: bring him in. 704 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: It's not my money. 705 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: I would try to coach. 706 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, listen, whomever the receiver coach is going 707 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: to be for the Broncos, would would want George Pickens 708 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: in his room, and he also would be challenged to 709 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: have George Pickens in his room. I feel like Sean 710 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: Payton would be a good deeva manager if he had 711 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: to be so. How much so Sean Payton, even though 712 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: you got the receiver coach dealing with the receivers and 713 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: pick Sean Payton's gonna have cast a pretty big shadow, 714 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't he? 715 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 716 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: I would think so yeah so. And the quarterback can help. 717 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the personality of Dak Prescott, 718 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 3: but I think bo Nicks going into his third season 719 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 3: would not be reticent to say, hey, man, don't ever 720 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: quit on a route. Quarterbacks Quarterbacks are the probably easiest 721 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: way to shape up a wide receiver's attitude, more so 722 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: than a coach, more so than a receiver coach or 723 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: a coordinator or a head coach, because a lot of quarterbacks, 724 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: when they sort of earn that credibility, they'll just say, man, 725 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: if you ever do that again to me, you're not 726 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: seeing the ball, period.