1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: It is the Jesus Christ Show. I am your holy host, 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: happy to be with you this Christmas, as we do 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: this every year on Christmas here on KFI. Thanks for 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: joining us. You can hear The Jesus Show every Sunday 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: from six to nine am here as well and anywhere 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: in the United States on the free iHeart Radio app. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: Eight hundred five to zero one five three four. Eight 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: hundred five two zero one five three four is the 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: number to call. If you have a question dealing with God, spirituality, worldviews, 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: the Bible, or if you're going through something in life 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: that you want to talk about, you can give me 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: a call as well. Eight hundred five two zero one 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: five three four. James, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, and thank you for taking this call. I 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: appreciate this, and I'm I'm just curious. I just recently 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: started going to Mass and doing my own following of 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: Christian values and such, and just wanted to get an 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: idea of what you were like as a young teen 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: or early twenties. I know, of course you were at Carpenter, 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: but wanted to know what your personality was like, well. 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: It's interesting because some people refer to these as the 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: silent or lost years. They're not lost and they're not silent. 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: And scripture is purposeful. It's not a day to day 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: recreation anyway, shape or form. It's more like, you know, 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: around this time of the year, people send out little 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: newsletters about their family with little highlights and little timmy 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: graduated from high school and all these things whatever, they 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: break them down, they're just kind of the highlights that 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: are important to what's going on in the family. Well, likewise, 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: scripture is the same, so there is certain parts that 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: are incredibly important that are talked about in scripture. Obviously, 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: the story of my birth is the starting of it, 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: and then it goes to it goes to a point 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: where I am in the temple and teaching, and my 36 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: parents come looking for me, and I say, don't you 37 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: know to be about my father's business, speaking about specifically 38 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: being the son of God. There is also a scripture 39 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: that talks about that I just grew simply in obedience 40 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: to my parents, listening to them and learning. It also 41 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: says in Luke to fifty two that I increased in 42 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and Man, 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: which is really interesting because when you're dealing with the 44 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: hypostatic union between my divinity and my humanity, the questions 45 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: always have to be asked twice because you have to ask, 46 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: can God learn something? No, not the same way same 47 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: sense that you think about a human learning or taking 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: on knowledge, but as man growing up, I still had 49 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: to go through the process of learning to walk and 50 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: talk and do those things that any human did in 51 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: that way. But it says that I was doing those things. 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I was studying practicing. That's really what it is. I 53 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: was what they referred to as in the carpentry shop 54 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: during those periods. I was being a good son. I 55 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: was doing those things. Now that stops at some point, 56 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: and as a matter of fact, you can tell that 57 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: I was in town that people knew who I was 58 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: and had interaction with me, because when I started, when 59 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: I moved from being what is referred to as the 60 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: carpentry shop, when I moved from being this son of 61 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Joseph and Mary working in that carpenter carpentry shop and 62 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: doing those things, when I moved from that into my 63 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: ministry at the age of thirty, that you see that 64 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: people reacted. In Matthew thirteen fifty five says, is this 65 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Jesus the son of Joseph, the carpenter's son, and they 66 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: started asking that. In Luke for twenty two, John six 67 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: forty two is referring to the things that I was 68 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: doing during that time prior to being thirty years of 69 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: age when my ministry started. And then that changes even 70 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: my relationship with my mother because at the wedding of Cana, 71 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: I'm asked by my mother to help this family who 72 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: was going to be ridiculed and embarrassed in this situation 73 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: different than embarrassment today at the wedding for running out 74 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: of wine. And this goes into ancient history and the 75 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: time biblical times of what it meant to be married. 76 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: It was different than now. You'd invite the whole town 77 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: and they would last four days weeks, and there was 78 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: a process of taking care of people during that time. 79 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: And I said, you know, it's not yet mother, it's 80 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: not our woman actually, which is very specific separating and 81 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: changing our relationship from mother and child to savior. And 82 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: now that relationship changes and becomes this powerful moment when 83 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: the first recorded miracle takes place and the ministry is 84 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: changed at that point. Now you have signs and miracles 85 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and these types of things that were going on there 86 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: that changed the whole relationship. That is basically what leads 87 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: up to that there's just nothing. Everything was normal as 88 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: far as a child's concerned. That's why people respond. It's 89 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: not like there's some books that are referred to as 90 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: apocryphal or that don't have the earmarks of age and 91 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: authorship and language and things like that that aren't canonized 92 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: in scripture. And there are some that talk about, oh, 93 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I was knocking birds out of the air with powers, 94 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: and you know, all kinds of weird things. But no, 95 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: it seals it up nicely in scripture. I was doing 96 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: normal kid things during that period and working with my family, 97 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: and then when it was time to go into ministry, 98 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: that's when you hear about what's going on in my 99 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: life again, because that is what actually ties in and 100 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: to scripture and helps to tell the story. 101 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on. 102 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Demand Christmas to come together and remind you, as the 103 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: bumper sticker says, the reason for the season right and 104 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: if you have a question, a theology question or life 105 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: situation question. I'd love to hear from you anywhere you 106 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: can hear my voice. Dilate one hundred five to zero 107 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: one five three four. That's eight one hundred five to 108 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: zero one five three four. Hi, let's see here, Tony. 109 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Tony, how 110 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: can I help you today? 111 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm curious more than curious, I'm fascinating with the correlation 112 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: between the possibility of alien contact, which I've come to 113 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: believe is going to happen in my lifetime, from being 114 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: absolute skeptic to believing it's going to happen. But the 115 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: correlation between scripture and the possibility of alien metaphors or 116 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: maybe even literal of alien and out of space type 117 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: entities being described in the Bible. 118 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Well, in theology and studying of scripture, there's something called 119 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: uh exegete and isogate, and when you that means there 120 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: is a time where you're taking information from scripture, and 121 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: then there's times where people read into scripture based on views. 122 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: And you see this when it comes to politics and 123 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: things like that. People always trying to push their views 124 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: into scripture rather than learning from the views that are 125 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: in scripture. Naturally. So when it comes to aliens meaning 126 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: extraterrestrials life forms as similar to humans, meaning that they 127 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: are sentient in the sense that they can think and 128 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: reason and all of these things in the same way. 129 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: There's nothing really in scripture that would back that up. 130 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: There are talks of people going through Ezekiel and looking 131 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: at the wheel in the sky or trying to look 132 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: towards some of these things. There are times when I 133 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: in scripture say things like there are others that are 134 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: not of this flock, But that's talking about the difference 135 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: between Jews and Gentiles. A scripture said first to the Jews, 136 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: second to the Gentiles. So when it's talking about the flock, 137 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: it's talking about the separation between the Jews and the 138 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: special nature of Judaism, and then the Gentiles, which came 139 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: later the Christianity and so forth. So that's not talking 140 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: about other life on other planets or anything like that either. 141 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: So some people will read into that. One of the 142 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: biggest issues that I think is never talked about Tony 143 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to this is a verse in Hebrews 144 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: Hebrews to sixteen through eighteen, and it says that I 145 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: did not come to help the angels, says Jesus did 146 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: not come to save the angels, and then it goes 147 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: on to say that the mission of coming and dying 148 00:10:50,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: was specifically for the children of Abrahim or Abraham, so 149 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: that it is about humanity. That's referring to humanity in scripture, 150 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: all of humanity. So if it's not for the angels, 151 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: which were created and only for humankind, then you have 152 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: to ask yourself some pretty heavy theological and philosophical questions. 153 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: So does that mean that either other life forms are 154 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: perfect and do not need salvation, which there's nothing in 155 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: scripture that would have to mean that there are pluralist 156 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: gods and not monotheism Ishmah Israel, deny God, Hero Israel, 157 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: the Lord, our God. The Lord is one God, one God. 158 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: So monotheism now it would break down monotheism and you'd 159 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: need either multiple gods with different ways of dealing with 160 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: each separate planet or each separate life form. You would 161 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: really need to break down. If not, then they're perfect, 162 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: and what is the purpose? Because God says this is 163 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: not the best world Earth, it's the best way to 164 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: the best world, which is Heaven Paradise, And so looking 165 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: at those things it really is more than just wow, 166 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: there might be life, And then you have to look 167 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: at the scientific aspect of it, the amount of technology, 168 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: and to assume that someone is more technologically savvy because 169 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: they're at a different location is just as strange as 170 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: saying that because you live on Earth and are in 171 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: a different location from someone else than you must be 172 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: the one that is more technologically savage savvy. So when 173 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: you go to the boom in the forties of the 174 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: concept of extraterrestrials in the light and being visited, and 175 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: you look at the ses that were told in the concepts, 176 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: it was based on a lot of things, including a 177 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: smaller amount of building blocks for life. There are more 178 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: building blocks now and actually more understanding rather about the 179 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: building blocks that make life like you as a human 180 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: than there were in the forties and fifties when there 181 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: was proliferation about the belief in extraterrestrials. And then you'd 182 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: have to go to well, they'd have to be so 183 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: far advanced that they could travel at light speed or 184 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: quite honestly faster to be able to travel here and 185 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: make themselves known. So there's a lot of questions in there, 186 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: Tony that are beyond well, gosh is Ezekiel talking about 187 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: the wheel in the sky keeps turning. Sorry, journey, But 188 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: if that deals with aliens and all these things, there 189 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: is much more to it than that. There are still 190 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: some major scientific exclusions for travel, for connection, for similarity, 191 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: the mathematics as it is. For life to exist on 192 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: it as it is now is a mathematical impossibility save 193 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: for the fact that it exists. So for that to 194 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: happen twice adds even more zeros to that probability. And 195 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: then theologically and philosophically you get into some other things 196 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: that would make, as it stands now, scripture obsolete because 197 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: of salvation and God and having one God, not saying 198 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: I'm the God of Earth, but the God of the universe, 199 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: creating all things from heaven and earth and everything else. 200 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: There's a lot more to it than just the thought, gosh, 201 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: it'd be neat if there was life somewhere else. 202 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six on demand. 203 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: It is the Jesus Christ Show. I am your Holy Host. 204 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: Happy to be with you on this Christmas as we 205 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: are normally with you every Sunday from six to nine am. 206 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Little fun fact for those playing a home game that 207 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: was Dave Coots, producer Neil's cousin, Beautiful Voice, beautiful Song, 208 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: beautiful person. As a matter of fact, if you have 209 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: a question theology, dealing with God, religion, world views, the Bible, 210 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: or if there's something going on in your life, we 211 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: call them life situations. Believe it or not, they do 212 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: change if things can go from good to bad. For 213 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: some reason, people believe that they can't go from bad 214 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: to good. But they can give us a call. Eight 215 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: hundred five to zero one five three four, eight hundred 216 00:15:53,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: five to zero one five three four Manuel, Welcome to 217 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: the Jesus. 218 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: Christ, Jesus, thank you for receiving my call as question. 219 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: My question seems kind of simple, but you can guide 220 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: me in the right direction and what they can do. 221 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: I got married to I did all my sacramentos a 222 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 5: little child, my brothers and sisters, catechism. I got married 223 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: to the Church Catholic, divorced in two of five, and 224 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: I find out that I cannot receive communion because I 225 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: was married to the church and I have to go 226 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: through the diocese to fill out paperwork to get it 227 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: completed or so I can't do it. Yes, I've done. 228 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: I've gone to church and I've received the host, and 229 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: I tell my friends and family, you can't do it, Junior, 230 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: I'll come, Well, you're married by the Church. You have 231 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: to And it's like I wanted to. I want to 232 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 5: compete the circle and I feel empty without receiving communion. 233 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 5: What can I do on my end to feel good 234 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: or can I do it? 235 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Manuel, you're talking about the rules 236 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: of the Catholic Church, and if you want to be 237 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: a Catholic, then by their rules you should abide. If not, 238 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: you're not a Catholic. Now, then you have to ask 239 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: yourself if it's important to you as a Catholic. Who've 240 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: done the sacraments and did your first communion and I'm 241 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: assuming that in that you also did your confirmation and 242 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: all of those things. You got married in the church, 243 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: And if it is your goal to be a strong Catholic, 244 00:17:54,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: then by their rules you must abide. Now, is that 245 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 2: God's wish for you? That's a different question. Is there 246 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: anything in scripture that says sharing or using the communion 247 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: as a memoriam and a reminder of the sacrifice of Christ. No, 248 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: there's nothing, but in the Catholic Church. You approach with reverence, 249 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: you bow your head, respond a man to the body 250 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: of Christ. You consume it immediately, either making what is 251 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: referred to as the throne with the hands or on 252 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: the tongue, extending the tongue. And those are the steps 253 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: that the Catholic Church has prescribed. So if you want 254 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: to be a good Catholic, then you have to abide 255 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: by their rules. Now, Protestants and the like would say 256 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: it is for all those that claim Me as their savior. 257 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: And so that's really what it comes down to Manuel 258 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: as to where you stand. If you're looking to be 259 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: a good Catholic, then yes, their rules are the rules. 260 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: But if you're asking if you are right with God, yes, 261 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: God has covered your sins. My death on the Cross 262 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: was for all and there is nothing to be added 263 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: to it in any way, shape or form. That's blasphemy. 264 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: And so you have to look at things that way 265 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: as to what part you play and how that is 266 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: in your life. But Catholicism that's controlled by Catholics. You 267 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: can't call yourself a Catholic and ignore their rules. That 268 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense because you can't say, gosh, you 269 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm a circle, and then show everybody your corners. 270 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 2: You have corners, You're not a circle. That's just that's 271 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: how they define it and everyone. Protestants define it one way, 272 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: Catholics define it another way. Even those within the Protestant 273 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: Church have different definitions about certain things. The one thing 274 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: they all agree on is the salvation in the blood 275 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: on the cross. 276 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 277 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: If you have any questions dealing with what's going on 278 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: in your life or theology, your religion, world views, anything 279 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: like that, give me a call. Eight hundred five two 280 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: zero one five three four. That's eight hundred five two 281 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: zero one five three four Antonio, Welcome to the Jesus 282 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: Christ Show. Yes, Hi, Hi, how can I help you? 283 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 6: I'm a Christian, a new a new Christian. I haven't 284 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 6: been a Christian that lot about eight eight years. 285 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: I was a Catholic. 286 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: I started Catholic, and Catholics are Christians? 287 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, okay, thank you? Yes. 288 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 6: And so now that I'm a Christian, I guess I 289 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: hear a lot of things and I get you can say, 290 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 6: you watch you know, Facebook, TikTok and other things, and 291 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 6: then you hear things, and that I'm confused of celebrating 292 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 6: Christmas and not celebrating Christmas due to. 293 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: I guess paganism. 294 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 6: So I kind of now, I let my family, my son, 295 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 6: and my wife celebrate, but I kind of don't interfere. 296 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 6: I just say I don't celebrate it. So I don't 297 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 6: know where to stand. 298 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know there's a lot there that can 299 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: be confusing to people, But let's look at it a 300 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: couple different ways. First of all, there is no mandate 301 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: in scripture that says you should celebrate it, and on 302 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: the flip side, there is no mandate that says you shouldn't. 303 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: And one of the scriptures I want to point you 304 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: to is Romans fourteen five and six, and that is, 305 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: one person considers one day more sacred than others, another 306 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: considers every day a like. Each of them should be 307 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day 308 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat 309 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God. 310 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: And whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives 311 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: thanks to God. So basically, what it's saying here is 312 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: you shouldn't judge people for celebrating Christmas or not celebrating Christmas. 313 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of joy and family connections 314 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: in Christmas, and it can be confusing to the rest 315 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: of the family and children to not unless you have 316 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: a good reason. If you are worried about pagan roots, 317 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, there are so many different 318 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: pagan roots that you participate in every single day that 319 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: you would have to take the ring off your finger 320 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: for marriage has pagan roots. The very tie around your 321 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: neck if you wear a tie somewhere has pagan or 322 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: different belief system roots. There are so many different pagan things. 323 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: The point is you're not celebrating pagans. Basically what Romans 324 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: is saying there in Romans fourteen five and six, it's 325 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: basically talking about do all things to the glory of God. 326 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: And you're not wrong. Now, you can't do something that 327 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: is against scripture, can't kill somebody to the glory or 328 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: murder somebody rather to the glory of God. But it's 329 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: about doing these things to the glory of God. There 330 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: is absolutely positively nothing wrong with giving gifts, putting up 331 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: a tree and lights, and celebrating Christmas to the glory 332 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: of God. Zero. So the traditions that you grew up with. 333 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: Those things, they're mostly just fine. You can put a 334 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Nativity scene if you wish. You can do these things 335 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: you're if you're worshiping the tree, there's a problem. If 336 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: you're worshiping the Nativity, seeing, there's a problem. If you're 337 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: worshiping the gifts, If you're worship there's a problem. But 338 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: if you're celebrating and using it as a jumping point 339 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: for kids to learn and to understand the importance of 340 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: giving and connecting and all of those things, there's beautiful 341 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 2: symbolism and connectivity with the family in Christmas. Don't look 342 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: for the devil under every rock. The devil already has 343 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: enough ground as it is on this planet. You don't 344 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: need to look for evil. So allow yourself to enjoy 345 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: the things of God. Nature is a beautiful thing. To 346 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: take a photo of a sunset to be a gasp 347 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: when you see a beautiful sunset or something in creation 348 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: is wonderful. You start worshiping the creation. That's the problem. 349 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: So it really to find the balance in there is imperative. 350 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And if it was important, 351 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: you know, if there was something there Antonio where you 352 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: had to defy something to show the glory of God, 353 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: I'd tell you, but there's not There is no win 354 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: in not celebrating, especially if it's a family tradition. In 355 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: this sense, all it ends up being is a division 356 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: and separating yourself anymore than celebrating a birthday or celebrating 357 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: a wedding itself, you know, those things. It could all 358 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: be traced back to pagan beliefs, and you know, really, 359 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: you're going to just start picking apart your entire life 360 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what you can and cannot do. 361 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: Why don't you just glorify God in the process. 362 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, so exactly what I was gonna say, Yes, 363 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 6: we will, and then then we'll Yeah, that'll be number one. 364 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: Yes, hold your people tight, Antonio, love on them. And 365 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: in scripture it says do not and don't be fearful 366 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: of different foods. The whole thing is people used to 367 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, why you pray before a meal is not 368 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: only to be grateful and thankful to God for the bounty, 369 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: but also that Pagans would kill animal as sacrifices to 370 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: their gods or their belief system. And Christians would say, well, 371 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: I don't want to eat that, and God says, eat it. 372 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 2: Just be thankful to God for it, and give the 373 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: glory to God, not to whomever they killed it for. 374 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: And therein lies the attitude is to give glory to 375 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: God and all those things. And that covers it in 376 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: the way in which God wants you to be thoughtful 377 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: and mindful. But hug your family, go be with them, 378 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: exchange gifts, love on them, enjoy the spirit of Christmas. 379 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 2: Read the story of My birth, whatever it is, but 380 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: connect with any with them, and don't let anybody say 381 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: you can't, because there's nothing in scripture that says you can't. 382 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Kfi A six forty on demand