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Speaker 1: It's Marcus in the morning and we're back with second

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Speaker 1: date update. It's everybody's fave. What's welcome. Today's star of

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Speaker 1: the show, Owen is on the phone. Ohen, what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I like to intro people like it's a soap opera

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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I can dig it, man, So I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about your date. Let's talk about Maris. I know she's ghosted,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, what'd you guys do?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an excellent evening right downtown Petaluma. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so nice little restaurant, nice farm to table, nice cheese,

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Speaker 2: nice wine, nice little selection of things for us to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh do you do the thing that my wife

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Speaker 1: and I do? Do you sit like where you can

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Speaker 1: watch them make the food?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the open kitchen? Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm here for you.

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Speaker 2: Like they can't you know, they can't cut any corners.

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Speaker 2: You get to see a little behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: That in its extra entertainment. So I love it. So

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Speaker 1: how is Maris? How'd that go?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely lovely? She wasn't picky, she didn't complain, She wouldn't

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Speaker 2: like turn her nose up at anything. You know, we

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Speaker 2: split a couple of plate knight bottle of wine. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to go over my head. When the

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Speaker 2: evening ended, I was feeling confident and I didn't go

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Speaker 2: in for anything super handsy, didn't say hey, let's go

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Speaker 2: back to my place. Your place. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: completely above board, okay, and got a got a kind

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Speaker 2: of weird, awkward hug and try to set up another date.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm talking to you here.

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Speaker 1: How nobody wants to end their date by the way,

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Speaker 1: talking to me? Just ask my wife. Just kidding. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see if we can get her on the phone.

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Speaker 1: So let's try to figure some things out. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and meet your phone. I'm gonna call Maris and see

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Speaker 1: why she ghosted. Okay, gotcha, you can listen in here

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Speaker 1: we go.

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Speaker 3: Hello, this is Maris.

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Speaker 1: Hi Maris, this is Marcus calling from Star one on

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Speaker 1: one three.

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Speaker 3: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Wait the radio?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you listen to my show?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes? I'm sorry, why why are you calling me?

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Speaker 1: We're doing second date update right now. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: don't know what that is. However, So okay, one of

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Speaker 1: our listeners is telling me that he took you on

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Speaker 1: a date and he thought it went well. He enjoyed

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Speaker 1: your company, but now he feels like maybe you've ghosted.

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Speaker 1: The only clue I have is that he got an

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Speaker 1: awkward hug at the end. So I hope this narrows

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Speaker 1: it down. Do you have a second to talk about

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Speaker 1: your date with Owen on the air?

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Speaker 3: This is Owen? This okay? Okay, okay, you know what.

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Speaker 3: This makes sense?

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Speaker 1: Okay, his tracks perfect.

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Speaker 3: You can't wait?

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Speaker 1: So where did he blow it? First of all, did

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Speaker 1: you ghost?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I did?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yes, yes I did.

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Speaker 3: I can explain why.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So we're eating a really nice meal.

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Speaker 4: Everything seems normal, but then a couple of things did

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Speaker 4: happen during dinner?

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Speaker 3: He Okay, this is gonna sound really weird.

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Speaker 4: It might sound a little petty on me, but listen, ladies,

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Speaker 4: we all understand that one little flag to.

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Speaker 3: Lead to others. He did this weird chewing thing. Can

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Speaker 3: you elaborate it was like the way he did it? It

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Speaker 3: wasn't it. It wasn't that he was like passionate or messy.

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Speaker 3: It was this like.

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Speaker 4: Weird, intentional, spiritual like way of chewing to the point

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Speaker 4: where he had an experience that started from the fork

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Speaker 4: to mouth that would last over.

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Speaker 3: A whole minute.

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Speaker 4: And so he swallowed and then we were able to

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Speaker 4: kind of like continue our conversation. Like he would take

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Speaker 4: a bite, we would have to stop all conversation.

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Speaker 3: He would chew it a certain way, swallow.

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Speaker 4: And then begin a conversation again, And it just made

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Speaker 4: me start to wonder.

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Speaker 3: Who he was actually like on the date with was

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Speaker 3: with me? Was it the food?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: But then I couldn't help it and I had to ask.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, like is this your favorite dish?

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Speaker 4: You know, is this just something that you really really

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Speaker 4: like or we're fantasizing about before we got here, And

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Speaker 4: he was like, no, I'm just you know, I'm really

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Speaker 4: trying new things with my life, you know, really starting

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Speaker 4: to get like pretty into every single one of life's experiences.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, Okay, this seems like a man that's

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Speaker 4: kind of got a lot going on, and I feel

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Speaker 4: like I'm gonna have to do a lot of explaining

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Speaker 4: of his behaviors to other people.

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Speaker 1: So like when he took a bite, he took a

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Speaker 1: bite like literally stop time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it felt like he was spiritually bonding with the food,

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Speaker 4: like what's a carrot?

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Speaker 1: Was that enough to put you off? Or no?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: He lew it by telling me about how one of

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Speaker 4: his last relationships he hired a personal investigator to go

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Speaker 4: and I guess what they do is.

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Speaker 3: Like spy on them, and he found nothing on the person.

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Speaker 3: So I said, why did you even do it?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: What was it that ticked you off? And he said nothing,

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Speaker 3: He just had.

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Speaker 1: A hunch nobody would want that, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to walk around feeling like somebody is

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Speaker 4: just going to bring in a private investigator at any point.

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Speaker 3: That was weird me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's the other part of this, honestly,

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Speaker 1: is that Owen is actually listening, and I figured this

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Speaker 1: is quite a truckload. Owen, are you there?

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the private investigator? What's that about?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just what I value is certainty. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to like eliminate variables in my life. Huh.

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Speaker 2: So I figured I don't want to like operate just

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Speaker 2: on instinct alone. You get the data set and you

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Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, make the best judgment call

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Speaker 2: based on the data. Yet uh huh, at this point

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Speaker 2: in my life, I didn't necessarily trust my judgment. So

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Speaker 2: I just trying to, like, you know's I said, try

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Speaker 2: to eliminate the variables.

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Speaker 1: So it's not them, it's you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if apparently it is me because I

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Speaker 2: no second dates.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with the chewing thing? Is that like

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Speaker 1: a zen thing? What's that about?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say merits that you're over exaggerating,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like I don't take a minute or

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Speaker 2: more to chew a carrots. I'm the youngest of four kids,

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Speaker 2: three older brothers. It was like Lord of the Flies

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Speaker 2: at dinner time. I value actually enjoying the food. I

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Speaker 2: think most people rush through meals, they miss the do

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Speaker 2: wants of things, and I just trying to, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the food that's in front of me that I

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Speaker 2: wasn't able to growing up, and sharing a meal with

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Speaker 2: someone is something that I want to do, like spend

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Speaker 2: the time with them.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, and I started tuning you out a while ago.

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Speaker 3: I don't whatever you say.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, Yeah, all right, hang on, hang on, Yeah

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Speaker 4: that was not a match.

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Speaker 1: Second date update