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Speaker 1: We were tired of the break with the Iceman thing.

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Speaker 2: The text line is absolutely reminding me that Chuck Ledell

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Speaker 2: at the Iceman.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I forgot that. I should have.

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Speaker 3: Got that one sameh but somebody said Ricky was saying

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Speaker 1: Red Grange and Tom Flores both usday.

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Speaker 3: According to AI, Red Grange was the original Iceman athlete,

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Speaker 1: With I don't remember games.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard that with Tom Flores, nor have I.

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Speaker 3: I've never even heard that. I made Red Grange was

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Speaker 3: a historian. I never read that anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Didn't know that. I thought Rick Grange was like, what

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Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's way before my time. I never

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Speaker 3: So then some listener texted Rick the Iceman serial killer

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Speaker 3: I think that the fraud part was this guy bragged

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Speaker 3: He's the key guy on that team when healthy, that

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Speaker 2: Whatever it takes to make sure that he's healthy for

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Speaker 2: they States and sorry, as far as that stuff goes,

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame wrestler Dean Malenko was also named the nickname.

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Speaker 1: Could we miss that?

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Speaker 3: Who's he?

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Speaker 1: Dean Malenco? You don't remember the Hall of Famer? You

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Speaker 1: don't remember the iceman Mallenco? Did he? Uh? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Did he wrestle against Dick the Bruiser? Remember Dick the Bruiser?

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Speaker 1: I do. I knew you would he was.

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Speaker 3: He was Detroit when I was growing up. Dick the Bruiser,

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Speaker 3: the Bruiser. I think he was a Detroit guy. Google him.

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Speaker 1: I want to say that. Yeah, I'm not gonna been

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Speaker 1: googling that. Google, I'm not googling that. No, it's it's

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Speaker 1: the he's the real deal. I'm looking at this guy's

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Speaker 2: It doesn't say Iceman here anywhere.

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Speaker 1: No, Like when did Dick brewser Dick Bruser that? Google

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Speaker 1: him that. I'll look it up. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm lugged in his rick. I'll google it

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Speaker 2: now check him out. He passed away in ninety one, okay, two,

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Speaker 3: He played for the Packers before he wrestled, But it looks.

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Speaker 1: Like thirty nine was the last wrestling he did. Did

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Speaker 4: His real name is William. He went from William's last

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Speaker 4: name's Bruiser. No, his real name is William Fritz Alice.

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Speaker 3: a great question, Dave.

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Speaker 2: That's one because it applies to different names, right, Because

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's grandfather, Richard Hammer, went by Dick Hammer.

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Speaker 1: He was he was a Marlborough man.

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Speaker 3: He did nod, that's right. But you're right, Dave, Dick

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Speaker 3: the Bruiser played four seasons with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: Because I knew him as Richard the Bruiser, he did

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Speaker 3: Seriously, see if you guys can figure this out before

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Speaker 3: we go to Rockies Baseball? Why did Dick the Bruiser

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Speaker 3: use that name when his real name was Bill? Does

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Speaker 3: Bill the Bruiser rolls off your tongue? It's a literative

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Speaker 3: It does sound good, you know. Yeah, Why Dick? Why

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Speaker 2: I guess and I'm reading here, I guess that was

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Speaker 2: just Bill and he's lost to cowboy Bob Ellis and

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Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty three, Dick the Bruiser started a feud

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Speaker 3: There were three hundred people. Good mind officers subdued him.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty three. Yeah, I'm fraid to read the same.

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Speaker 1: He was a total legend in Detroit for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Now I can see why. Ah goodness, what year was that?

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Speaker 2: Fifty one thousand dollars in damages for the two policemen

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Speaker 2: he injured during the brawl. Wow, he looked like a

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Speaker 3: You know that sounds like your buddy, my man, that

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Speaker 3: Bull had similar moments. I've heard some of the stories.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who's messing with this dude? Though? You

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Speaker 3: Alex Carris pretty nasty physical specimen as well, especially in

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Speaker 1: Guys, would he used me as a toothpick? What was

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Speaker 1: Alex Karras's character name in Blazing Saddles Longongo?

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, and he knocked out that horse in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I didn't like him hitting that.

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Speaker 3: Horse like that dropped him though, one one punch knockout.

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Speaker 3: He was in the TV series he did. He was

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Speaker 3: I just can't think of the name. Not Barney Webster. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Know, I remember that, and then he was in I

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Speaker 2: remember he's in Porky's too, because he was a sheriff

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Speaker 1: There it is there, It is.

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Speaker 2: Five six six text, A couple of other things here

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Speaker 2: real quick, Levante David retired. Derek Brooks out there stumping

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Speaker 2: now the other guy was drafted with Gerald.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Gerald, Yeah, I'll get it.

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Speaker 2: McCoy, yes, both stumping for him for the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: saying that he went he went underappreciated during his time,

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree. Lemonte David was was an animal.

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Speaker 3: He's in the top four or five in just about

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize until I saw those stats. It's like wow.

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Speaker 2: I would say of the I say modern linebackers, I'm

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Speaker 2: you got to put him, you gotta put him up there.

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Speaker 1: Who else you got?

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Speaker 2: You got Keithley, Pazlutsney Erlacker him and what Patrick Willis?

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Speaker 3: I think Patrick Wilson in the Hall of Fame as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Willis is in the Hall of Fame? What going?

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Speaker 2: Willis went in? Didn't he Cakey win in this year?

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what year. It was, twenty four so

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Speaker 3: And he played for the Bills, the kid from Penn State.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will be, but he was one

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Speaker 2: of those guys that was underappreciate on those Jacksonville teams

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Speaker 2: for what he just because Jacksonville was stunk like for what.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he play in Buffalo too? Lets me, maybe I

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Speaker 2: There's Jacksonville teams. He you know, he uh worked around forever.

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Speaker 2: I just can't remember how long it was that he

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Speaker 2: was there. Now it was jack Oh, he did play

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Speaker 2: You were absolutely correct, and it was I just remember

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Speaker 2: him playing in Jacksonville a whole bunch and he'd have,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, and because it was Jacksonville went.

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Speaker 3: At a friend text. Don't forget his cousin, the Crushers.

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Speaker 3: They served as tag team champions for Verne Gangnie. Remember

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Speaker 3: Vern Oh, yeah, remember the name American Wrestling Association out

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Speaker 1: I remember the name Verne Gannie.

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Speaker 3: Took Dick the Bruiser is related to the Crusher or Vern?

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Speaker 3: I think Vern Wow, Well, I think evidently Dick is

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Speaker 3: Verne's cousin. Were talking about great tian eticks for being

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Speaker 1: So if William what's his last name, I'd have to

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Speaker 3: Okay, if if Williams, if Bill Afland can become Dick

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Speaker 3: the Bruiser, why don't you Rick Lewis become you'd be

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Speaker 3: Dick anyway? You're Richard? What do you mean i'd be

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Speaker 3: Dick anyway? Well, Dick is a nickname for Richard, right,

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Speaker 3: another name for ricks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you yeah, I just wanted to talk. Let's come

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Speaker 3: now tylor Ana is formally known as Rick Lewis. I

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Speaker 3: need to pitch to da gonna be, It's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Dick, Like, what do you want to

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Speaker 3: be Dick? The What?

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Speaker 1: What I want to be? What?

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Speaker 3: What are you going with it? Where are you going with?

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Speaker 3: What's the crusher? Dick the Crusher Bruiser, Dick Bruiser. Right,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be Dick the what. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: give myself a nickname talk for we're not using diper

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Speaker 3: baby pick the diaper baby. If I had to wear

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Speaker 3: the diaper, I would do it.

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Speaker 1: But I will.

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Speaker 3: I want you to think of something and we'll make

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Speaker 3: it stick for August.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rick, where you were going with that?

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Speaker 3: Day lewis aka Dick the diaper Baby a little taken

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Speaker 3: aback by this conversation or Dick the Drummer.

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Speaker 1: I could live with that. I could live with that. Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now with the Keys to the game, here's

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Speaker 3: Dick the Drummer. I don't know that doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: good ring. You have to do better than that.

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Speaker 1: sure Dave will have this dialed in. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That that's from Rick and Morty. Pickle like pickle Rick.

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Speaker 2: That's from Rick and Morty. It is, Yeah, pick pickle

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Speaker 2: Rick is from from Rick and Morty. They they said

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Speaker 2: something else on the text line here, Okay, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 3: Went by Dick. I met him. Yeah, I met him.

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Speaker 3: You've met him a couple of times in the booth. Ye.

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Speaker 1: He was a big Dave Logan fan. He liked Dave

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Speaker 1: better than me. His nickname Big Dick.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, And I said, hello, big Dick.

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Speaker 1: You did. He was a big dude.

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Speaker 3: He was a big His hands were about my size,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, not quite Dick the Bruiser size,

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Speaker 3: but he was a big dude.

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Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely,