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Speaker 1: All right, there's a new documentary coming out. I've seen

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Speaker 1: the trailer. It is gonna knock the socks off of

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Speaker 1: U see basketball fans. It's titled Beyond the Bench, The

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Speaker 1: Bob Huggins Legacy. My first guest is the executive producer

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Speaker 1: of the project by nine Ton Media Group. He is

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Speaker 1: a long time you see basketball fan. What a treat

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Speaker 1: to welcome in, Alan Hillsinger, How are you, mister?

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Speaker 2: McAllister? I'm great, buddy.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing it is? I am well, it

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Speaker 1: is so great to hear your voice. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited to talk about this project. Let's start here. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about the like the light bulb going off? Why

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Speaker 1: did you decide you wanted to do something like this?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was time, you know, I mean it was time.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has done something like this for Hugs and for

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Speaker 2: the his players really as much as him, And it

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Speaker 2: was just time. And I'm in the independent filmmaking business,

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Speaker 2: and I have the toolbox and the right people that

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Speaker 2: can put to go some awesome productions, and I thought

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Speaker 2: this was a logical choice. And once he agreed, it

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Speaker 2: was off to the races.

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Speaker 1: How long did this project take?

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Speaker 2: Typically a well thought out documentary and well produced documentary.

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Speaker 2: It takes about a year to eighteen months, so we

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Speaker 2: got ramped up on it last fall and if we

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Speaker 2: took it through the year. We spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: time in Morgantown with Hugs, a ton of time with

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Speaker 2: the players. Every notable name you can think of is

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Speaker 2: in there, including people outside of basketball like a Nick

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Speaker 2: Lache and Kevin Frasier, and a lot of coaches, Bill self,

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Speaker 2: John Kyler, Perry, Andy Kennedy. I mean, there's a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of them. But yeah, it takes a little bit

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Speaker 2: of time, but that's what you needed to make its

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Speaker 2: quality as we've made it.

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Speaker 1: Among the more than forty interviews you did, you and

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Speaker 1: your crew interviewed Kenyon Martin and as Los Angeles home.

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 2: It's scary? Now, Ken's awesome. He's an intimidating person, but

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Speaker 2: his interview is terrific. And yeah, we shot him out

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Speaker 2: in LA and.

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Speaker 1: We got Nikki and we got i mean.

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Speaker 2: The whole just you know, go down the list. We

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Speaker 2: got just about all of them.

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Speaker 1: His life. Hugs life has certainly included some controversy and

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Speaker 1: tough times. Are those covered in the documentary they are.

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Speaker 2: It's not a focus. The way I like to describe

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Speaker 2: it is that Lance we weren't. The whole idea was

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Speaker 2: to show the world why a guy that coached guys

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Speaker 2: thirty five years ago still call him every day, not

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Speaker 2: every day, every week, still go visit him, still communicate

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Speaker 2: with him. And it's not a Cincinnati basketball documentary. It's

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Speaker 2: not a West Virginia basketball documentary. What it is is

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Speaker 2: it starts at his birth and goes, you know, up

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Speaker 2: until today. And it was That's the whole concept behind it,

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Speaker 2: and I believe we very much accomplished our goal.

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Speaker 1: Has he watched it and if so, what was his reaction?

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Speaker 2: First words, Well, the answer is yes. We watched it

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Speaker 2: at his house in Morgantown in the theater room. The

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Speaker 2: first thing he said to me and we will oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: First thing he said to me when we walked out

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Speaker 2: of the room, he looked at me and said thank you.

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Speaker 2: I said, hugs, You're not to thank me. He goes, no,

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Speaker 2: this is so so good. You guys did a terrific job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I said, well, you got it, buddy, You're

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Speaker 2: one of my heroes. If I can do this for you,

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Speaker 2: then I'm a happy man.

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Speaker 1: You talked with Ruben Patterson and those who know you

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Speaker 1: see basketball No Ruben's thirty two point performance at Barto

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Speaker 1: Arena following the news of his mother's death and Huggs

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Speaker 1: was there to console him. What was that experience like

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Speaker 1: talking with Ruben and having him go back through those

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Speaker 1: memories in his relationship with Hugs.

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Speaker 2: You know, lands you're pretty good at this. You ought

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Speaker 2: to think about doing this for a room. I'll keep

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Speaker 2: it short. Reuben, he came up to Cincy and and

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Speaker 2: the first thing he said is I know we need

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Speaker 2: to talk about And I said yeah, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I've never spoken publicly about this ever in my life.

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, this is your opportunity if you

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Speaker 2: want it. And I call it the Kleenex moment in

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Speaker 2: the documentary because it's gonna get you. It's gonna it's

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Speaker 2: gonna get you. And uh, he describes the whole experience,

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Speaker 2: and he did an extremely brave and good job of

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Speaker 2: what he. Uh he said on camera.

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Speaker 1: Boy, and I understand you go back to the beginning

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Speaker 1: with Hugs in Clifton, because you talked with Steve Sanders,

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Speaker 1: who hit the shot that won the very first game

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Speaker 1: of the Hugs era.

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Speaker 2: I say something funny. First time I talked to Steve Sanders.

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Speaker 2: First thing guy said, I said, Steve, I'm really glad

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Speaker 2: you made that shot, and he goes, you think you're

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Speaker 2: glad that I made that shot. I said, yeah, I am,

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Speaker 2: and uh he Steve was great. You know, Lance, of

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Speaker 2: forty interviews, I've been asked us on other interviews, there's

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Speaker 2: not been a bad one. I mean, Kanyan certainly sticks out,

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Speaker 2: Nicky van Axell certainly sticks out, Corey Blunt certainly sticks out.

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Speaker 2: The other coaches we've got that I mentioned before, they

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Speaker 2: stick out. But really, there hasn't been a bad one.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're all really good. I'm telling you, for

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Speaker 2: anybody that's listened to this, you're gonna love this thing.

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Speaker 2: It is terrific and I love it.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned the former coaches, that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that really caught my eye. I think anybody would expect

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Speaker 1: to hear from the former players, but I love the

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Speaker 1: perspective of Bill self and Andy Kennedy and Coach cal

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Speaker 1: talking about Hugs, their relationship and what it was like

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Speaker 1: going toe to toe x'es and O's against him.

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Speaker 2: All three of those interviews were terrific. Personally, I like

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Speaker 2: Bill Seltz the best, just for whatever reason. I'm not sure,

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Speaker 2: maybe because I've always been a fan of his. But

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Speaker 2: cal cal Cal's a funny guy, so there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of humor in there. And the ak was very good,

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Speaker 2: and he certainly had a front row seat to the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. And their perspective is unique because they can

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Speaker 2: describe coaching better than the players can. The players are

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Speaker 2: going to talk about how they were disciplined rather hard.

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Speaker 2: The coaches could talk about the reasons behind that and

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Speaker 1: To make it cool, as I understand that, the premier

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Speaker 1: said for April seventeen, tell listeners about that, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 2: April seventeenth and Memorial Hall downtown, there'll be a VIP

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Speaker 2: section where a lot of the players, including coach Hugs,

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Speaker 2: is going to be there, and so there'll be an

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Speaker 2: area where you can get autographs and pictures and all

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Speaker 2: that kind of fun stuff. There's posters we're having made.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a big event, a big night for us

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Speaker 2: and for everybody involved. And again, really, to me, a

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Speaker 2: lot of this is not just about doing this for Hugs,

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Speaker 2: but it's doing this for all of his players. Family.

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Speaker 2: These guys are so appreciative of what we're doing, and

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch we're going to be there that night

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Speaker 2: and we can't wait. It's going to be a great night.

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Speaker 2: Anybody's welcome to The tickets will go out online here

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Speaker 2: in the next few days, and I know it's still

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Speaker 2: two months out, but two months will pass pretty quick,

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Speaker 2: so we're getting getting ahead of it a little bit. Alan.

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Speaker 1: Is this something that ultimately could wind up I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, something on Netflix

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Speaker 1: or a thirty for thirty or something like that on

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Speaker 2: Lance We strongly believe thirty to thirty is the right platform.

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Speaker 2: We have the luxury of being able to interview somebody

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Speaker 2: about his life while they're still here. So if you

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Speaker 2: look at some of the thirty for thirty stuff, there's

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Speaker 2: people that have passed, so you can't interview them. Luckily,

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Speaker 2: because we all love the guy so much, we were

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Speaker 2: able to spend a ton of time with him, and

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Speaker 2: we believe it's good enough to go there. But it

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Speaker 2: will definitely end up somewhere, and we already have Lance,

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Speaker 2: I did a podcast two days ago. It has our

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Speaker 2: million views.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's a pretty big number, no doubt. Last question,

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Speaker 1: as much as you've been around him and around the

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Speaker 1: family and he's seventy two, do you think he'll coach again?

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Speaker 2: A man, that's a tough one. I think at first

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Speaker 2: he kind of wanted to, but his sentiments now or

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Speaker 2: he just doesn't really know if he wants to know.

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Speaker 2: I do know that he does a lot of traveling.

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Speaker 2: He helps other coaches. He'll get to their practices and

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Speaker 2: maybe advise a little bit here and there, and so

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Speaker 2: he's very active still on that side of it. To me, Lance,

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Speaker 2: really it comes across as it he does not want

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Speaker 2: can't necessarily do it the way that he used to

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Speaker 2: do it. And I think that he would be successful,

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Speaker 2: but it would just have to be a little bit

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Speaker 2: different version of how he does it. And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's a long answer to your short question, but I'd

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Speaker 2: love to see it, But I don't know. I do

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Speaker 2: know he wants to get to one thousand, though he's

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Speaker 2: at nine to thirty five wins, he wants to get

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Speaker 2: to that thousand mark. But that's three that's three seasons, right,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: He is Alan Hill Singer the documentary Beyond the Bench,

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Speaker 1: the Bob Huggins Legacy. Is there a website that listeners

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Speaker 1: can go to for more to keep track of ticket

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Speaker 1: information stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is www, and it's nine the numeral nine

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Speaker 2: Ton Media Group dot com. Nine Tonmedia Group dot com.

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Speaker 1: You're the man. It is a great catching up with you.

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Speaker 1: It is great talking about this. Let's plan on talking

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Speaker 1: again as we get closer to that premiere on April seventeen.

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Speaker 1: If that sounds good with you.

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Speaker 2: Lance, I'd be happy to talk to you anytime, Bud,

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Speaker 2: if you know that.

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Speaker 1: Excellent?

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Speaker 2: Thanks Alan, all right, ma'am you too, all right?

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Speaker 1: Take care there you go, man, just the trailer I've

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Speaker 1: seen goosebumps, unbelievable. I'm way late. Let's get a check

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