1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Knicks, rolls to his right, stops throws pass cut have 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: it ain't going. 3 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: With the catch, dives to the goal line, touchdown. 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Denver eleven yard touchdown past bow Knicks. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you think about how he went nine for 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 3: ten for one hundred and twenty seven yards and a 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: touchdown in the fourth quarter, including that two point conversion 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: as well. That's high level quarterbacking right there. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: So I think multiple things can be true. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: There were some struggling moments, although I would would say 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: when I rewatched the game, of course you always get 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: a chance to rewatch it with the lens of knowing 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: the outcome. But when I rewatched the game today, I 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: wasn't as down on his performance where there misthrows. Yeah, 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: of course there were some misthrows. Were there are moments 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: where the offense needed to be a little more crisp. Absolutely, 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: But I also think this is a very very good 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: defense and they were throwing some things at him that 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: were tough to navigate. I said to Dave in the 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: first segment, and we're gonna hear from bow Nicks in 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: just a matter of moments as he joined voice the 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: Broncos Dave Logan after the game, I. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Said to Dave earlier. 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: I thought when they finally found some success running the 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: ball in the fourth quarter, especially, but the second half, 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: we'll start with the second half, it started to open 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: things up, and even Tony Romo made that comment during 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: the broadcast. It started to open up things on the 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: outside and give you some more one on one options 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: because you realize up to that point, I think Carla 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: Sudden had only had like a couple of catches. I mean, 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: he finished the game with very impressive stat line of 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: eight catches for nine to nine yards, but a lot 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: of that came in the fourth quarter, and a lot 35 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: of that came because the Eagles weren't able to bracket 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: him nearly as much, because they had to give more 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: to the run game and to run defense between JK. 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: Dobbins in a little bit of R. J. Harvey, but 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: especially JK. 40 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: Dobbins, they started to work the center and then marked 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: the middle of the field in the run game. And 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: there's something to that, and Dave mentioned it earlier as well. 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: When the offensive line is starting to wear down down 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: that defensive front, that's something that you really only get 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: over the course of the game, and it would have 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: been tough to predict something like that, knowing that the 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: Eagles defensive front is one of the best in the NFL. 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: But I agree with that sentiment because it did finally 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: start to click if the Broncos have done that over 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: the course of the season. I mentioned this the first 51 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: hour too, that the second half, whether it's an adjustment 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: they make or it's just time, has really been on 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: their side as it relates to getting the run game 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: on track. You know, the Broncos are fifth in the 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: league right now and rushing it's a remarkable number, and 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: yet there are sometimes it feels like for a lot 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: of Broncos fans and I probably include myself in this, 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like it's working as well as it 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: could or should. So then you have to marry that 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: up with reality and the stats and find out. 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: What's the difference. 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Well, the difference is most of those numbers are coming 63 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: in the second half. Most of those numbers are coming 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: when the offensive line is starting to wear down the 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: defensive front. And so maybe there's a little bit of 66 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: a lesson here for everybody that watches this team. Sometimes 67 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: get off the slow starts or struggle to run the 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: ball earlier in the games is to give it some time, 69 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: let the process play out, see if the game plan 70 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: or maybe the adjustments that you make can come to fruition. 71 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: I mean, those are the things. 72 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: That you don't know, but you have to kind of 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: have a bit of faith that the coaching staff and 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: that the players are going to put it all together 75 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: and execute this thing when they're supposed to. But it's 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: tough because we have so many years of poor offensive 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: play that I think kind of enters into the mindset 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: of Broncos fans and media like when watching these games, 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: because there are still some people out there truly on 80 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: the fence about bo Nicks. And I think that gets 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: tested in moments like yesterday in the first half when 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: you only score three points and he's missing throws downfield 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: again he missed two, right, that did he miss two? 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: Or the receivers That doesn't really matter, they were missed. 85 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: And so then that's where I think it just it 86 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: just tests that a little bit, and then you start 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: to creep in like, oh, no, here we go, we 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: haven't found the guy. You start asking yourself questions like, oh, 89 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: did we jump too soon? Do we think about him 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: as the guy too soon? And I don't think so. 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: I think that they've got the quarterback that is going 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: to help them win a lot of games right now, 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: and we'll see probably very. 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: Good things from him into the future. 95 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, because of the history of this fan base 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: over the last decade, it's impossible to convince people otherwise 97 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: in the down moments. But for me, as I said 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: to Dave in the first hour, I didn't really doubt 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: that the Broncos would find a way to put some 100 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: things together. 101 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: I just didn't. 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: I just hoped it wasn't too little, too late, like 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: there was gonna be a point, because it. 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: Felt like they were they were finding some ground. 105 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: They just kept making mistakes, Like they had a drive 106 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: where they got into plus territory and JK. Dobbins rushed 107 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: for our first down, and then they had an illegal 108 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: formation that backed it up. They had a tied end 109 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: that that covered up I think one of the receivers, 110 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: and then they backed the drive up and then they 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: just kind of never recovered from there. And in overall penalties. 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: Of course, as we know, they had twelve for twenty 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: twenty one yesterday. If I'd have told you going into 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: the game, they had twelve for one twenty one in penalties, 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: you would have said the Broncos got absolutely. 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: Handed to them. 117 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: But you coupled that with almost thirty five minutes in 118 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: time of possession. The Broncos possessed the ball, they found 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: ways to move the ball. Yesterday, they just would get 120 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: on the plus side of the field and they would 121 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: get bogged down because of a penalty or some kind 122 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: of play. I mean, you know, they had Bonix had 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: one intentional grounding, almost had two. The other one was 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: not an intentional grounding, despite what Eagles fans will tell you. 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 3: So there's just these moments where it didn't quite click. 126 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: But I guess for me, thicky for me, not necessarily 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: for all Broncos fans. I'd say give it a little 128 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: bit of time. The investment's going to continue to pay off, 129 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: and you're gonna wear these teams down if you just 130 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: hang in there and you're within a score or two. 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: Now that they're getting. 132 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: Ready to take on the Jets, they got the Giants, 133 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: They've got some games that are eminently eminently winnable coming up. 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be like that. You shouldn't have to wear 135 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: down these teams. You should be able to get off 136 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: the faster starts against some of these teams coming up, 137 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: but against the best teams in the league, you just 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: gotta have to hang in there and treat it like 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: a boxing match. Here was bo Knicks with voice of 140 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: the Broncos Dave Logan. 141 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: After the game. 142 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: Let's head back. 143 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Down and talk with the quarterback of the Denver Broncos 144 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Bonnicks Bow. 145 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: It's Dave Logan. That's pretty interesting. Fourth quarter. 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: You guys showed a lot of I thought, mental toughness 147 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: and grit and made a whole bunch of plays in 148 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. 149 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: What were a couple of the keys in your mind 150 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: to that happening. 151 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 152 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: We just started making, you know, spreading the ball around, 153 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 6: going some tempo, and guys just made plays. Cortland made 154 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: a couple of good, nice catches, and then everybody else. 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the ball were sprayed around pretty good. 156 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: Quite a few guys brought the ball in last couple 157 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: drives and moved it so and we also ran the 158 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: ball well. 159 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: We got in some hurry. 160 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 6: Up and we moved it down the field and we 161 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 6: just got touchdowns. I'm not exactly sure what it was, 162 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: but we did it. 163 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: You know what, you don't even have to be sure 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the fact that you did do it, and that's that's 165 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: really what matters. You had three hundred and fifty eight 166 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: yards of total offense, two twenty eight throwing it, one 167 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: point thirty running it. And as you and I have 168 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: talked about, it's important to have that kind of balance. 169 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: You had it today against a really good defense. 170 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: Yeah it was, and it obviously happened late, but I 171 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 6: mean we had to get it done, and our defense 172 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: just continued to make stops and we went down there 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 6: and score touchdowns and got a two point version in 174 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 6: the momentum shifted. 175 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll get you out here on this because I know 176 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you're dying to get on a plane and fly nine 177 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: hours to win a game like this when you've had 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: a couple of chances and the other team, however, they 179 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: found a way to win in the last play of 180 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: the game. To be on the field and your team 181 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: wins literally on the last play of the game. 182 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: What is that? 183 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: Is it a confidence thing? Is it kind of exhaling? 184 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: What's the feeling you get from a game like this today? 185 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, Maybe just the belief 186 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 6: that we can win these close games. We've haven't, you know, 187 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 6: been great at close games. What we got it done 188 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 6: today against a really good football team. 189 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and enjoy it. I'll talk to you later this week. 190 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 191 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: You bet that's bone Nicks in the locker. 192 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: Room and you can find that interview along with the 193 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: interviews with JK. Dobbins, Evan Ingram, and Nick Benito all 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: up on our website. 195 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait Colorado dot com. What a fun win. 196 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 3: To finish that game, and we talked about it a 197 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: lot like on Broncos React last night. Yet you've lost 198 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: two games on last second field goals. You weren't able 199 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: to close, and good teams find a way to close. 200 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: That's what we said after those losses. 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: I think winning this game, and we're gonna have Anny 202 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: Fowler on in just a little bit, who knows a 203 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: lot about closing games. I think winning that game shows 204 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: proof of concept to the locker room. 205 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: If you're the. 206 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: Coaching staff who's been preaching to these guys, just hang 207 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: in there, hang in there. 208 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: This is what we're about. We're resilient. 209 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: We were down by two touchdowns to the defending Super 210 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Bowl champions in the fourth quarter and guess what. We 211 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: didn't flinch. We believed in our process. We kept at 212 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: it and we won the game. You know, you keep 213 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: losing close games, you lose on last second field goals. Yeah, 214 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of doubt that creeps in. Can 215 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: we really be that team? Can we those things out? 216 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: But then you do it in a high leverage situation 217 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: like this against Philadelphia and they could do wonders. I 218 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: can't wait to see what the Broncos can do off 219 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: of this signature win. Ben Powers is going on IR 220 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: with a biceps injury and to help us, tell us 221 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 3: tell more about that right out to the Highline and 222 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: bring on doctor Dave Schnyder. Brought to you by Ortho 223 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: Colorado Hospital, part of Common Spirit Health. 224 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Go to Ortho Colorado dot org. Doctor Snyder. Appreciate your 225 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: time as always, How are you, sir? 226 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: I'm doing great, Joe Man, and happy victory Monday. 227 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: Happy victory Monday to you as well. So let's dive 228 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: right in here. Found out moments ago from Mike Cliss 229 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: with nine News that it looks like Ben Powers is 230 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: going to be going on IR with. 231 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: A biceps injury. 232 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: Now I finished the game, he had surgery already today, 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: or at least he's having surgery today. What can you 234 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: tell us what I mean in your opinion? What does 235 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: that mean? Is especially as the frame it as he's 236 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: going to be out till December. 237 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it used to be either the just 238 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: the biceps or triceps injury, you were done for the season. 239 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 5: Our repairs have gotten so much better, our anchors is 240 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 5: so much better that it actually is fathomable that he 241 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 5: could be back in two or three months. So we'll 242 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 5: we'll see, but likely he'll be able to play and 243 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: long term he'll be great. Now issues are. 244 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: You surprised he was able to finish the game. 245 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: He's an animal. I mean, you know, you do have 246 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: some redundancy. There's a secondary muscle there that does provide 247 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: some elbow flextion power, but when you're wrestling against another hog, 248 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 5: it's it's you know, but you definitely scored some man 249 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: points with all of us. 250 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: Tap wrestling gets a man another hog, that's fantastic. 251 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 252 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Lucas Croll's Jones fracture 253 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: in his foot that lands him on IR. 254 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: We found about that last week. What's what can you 255 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: tell us about a Jones fracture. 256 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: So Jones fracture, it's a it's a fracture of your 257 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: fifth metataur, soal it's one of the middle of your foot, 258 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: those long bones that are and then you know the 259 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 5: about three or four inches long when you break the 260 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: one on the outside where your pinky toe is. And 261 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 5: if you break it in just the right spot, that's 262 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 5: a Jones fracture. There's a bunch of different places where 263 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 5: you can break that bone. If you break it in 264 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 5: that real place, and it's a real Jones fracture, you 265 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: have to have a screw. You're definitely gonna miss, you know, 266 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: six weeks or so. But it does heal predictably and 267 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: will do well. 268 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: Last one here for you, Doc, and always appreciate the time. 269 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 3: So we found out from Coach Prime on Saturday night 270 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: that he thinks now we're waiting for more information today. 271 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: He said he was gonna get more tests today, so 272 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: I don't know anything official, but he talked about blood 273 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: clots in his legs, saying he's in a lot of pain. 274 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 3: Maybe you could tell us a little bit about what 275 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: that might look like for him and what's the road 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: to recovery. 277 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 5: Like well, the most important thing for Coach Prime. You 278 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: just couldn't love the guy. 279 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Anymore and respect him anymore. 280 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 5: Here's the guy that has artial blood clots. So there's 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 5: probably a lot of the listeners who would say I 282 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 5: or my dad had blood clots in his legs after 283 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: a hip fracture. Well, those are venus blood clots, deep 284 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: vein clots that can happen for no reason at all, 285 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: just being sententary, or more commonly after an injury. Those 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: are serious. Those can migrate to your lungs and cause 287 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: real life threatening issues. This exact opposite, Prime has material cloths. 288 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: That's to say, it's showering from somewhere. I think in 289 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 5: the past it was coming from this fermal arty, so 290 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 5: you know, in the thigh or in the growing area, 291 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: and then instead went back to the heart. These are 292 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: showering going down to the foot. That's how you end 293 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: up getting amputated toes amputated feet. I'm very concerned for Coach, 294 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 5: especially with him battling bladder cancer. Bad things happen when 295 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: that happens. I'm just incredibly concerned. Prayers up for. 296 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: Coach a hundred percent. 297 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you said that, I think everybody not only 298 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: in this community, but all fans of CEU, all fans 299 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: of Coach Prime felt the exact same way. Doctor Schneider 300 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: always appreciated, especially today with the information and gosh talking 301 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: about ben powers and wrestling with Hoggs. That's that's gonna 302 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: stay with me for a while. I appreciate you, sir, 303 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 304 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: I'm good day, Jed, all right, take care. Doctor Dave 305 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: Schneider from Ortho, Colorado. He's an animal, that's a but 306 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: he's great. 307 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: He brings up a great point. I mean, usually a 308 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: biceps injury is historically been season ending. 309 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: The fact that we're gonna have this guy back, it's 310 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: up point the season. It's remarkable. Great stuff there from 311 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: the doc. We'll react to that. Coming up next. Bennty 312 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: Fowler's gonna join us as well. 313 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Hurts on third down, we'll be grabbed by Benito, spun 314 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: of the turf and. 315 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: There's another sack, the fourth sack of the game for the. 316 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Broncos and Nick Benito gets up and does the eagle thing, 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: grated by a few booze as you hear and you 318 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: can't see because this is radio, but if you number 319 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: one signals as well from the Eagles. 320 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: Faithful, that's a ten year old loss. 321 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: On pace for twenty four sacks on the season on 322 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: pace for twenty four sacks. If he got to that, 323 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: he would obviously be the Defensive Player of the Year 324 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: and it would be the first time in NFL history. 325 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: I do believe that we have back to back seasons 326 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: with two different players winning Defensive Player of the Year. 327 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: That would be special. 328 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: And I mean, on one hand, you say, well, it's 329 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: just a projection, and who knows if hegans get there. 330 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me after what we've seen through the 331 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: first five games that Nick Benato has a chance to 332 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: get to that, especially when you look at the schedule 333 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: and you see Justin Fields and Jackson Dart on the 334 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: schedule coming up with Gino Smith for crying out loud, 335 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, who does also take a lot of sacks. Yeah, 336 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: Nick Benito could get there. Well, I mean, I'm gonna 337 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: say twenty four before the season ends, but I'm just 338 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: gonna say he could absolutely continue to rack up sacks. 339 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: And it's a combination of things, right, It's a combination 340 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: of the talent you have on the defensive front and 341 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: what you're doing in the back end, and for the 342 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: people that tend to kind of melt down about some 343 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: of the times that Riley Moss gets beat, and maybe 344 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: there are some technique things he needs to work on, 345 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,119 Speaker 3: but he, along with Patzertann and the rest of that secondary, 346 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: allow that defensive front to have the success that they 347 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: ultimately do. You get to play man on the back end, 348 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: which is going to give your pass rush more opportunities 349 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: to get home and get those sacks. You got six 350 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: sacks yesterday on Justin I was gonna say Justin Field. 351 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: Sorry. On Jalen Hurts. You got six sacks yesterday on 352 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. 353 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 3: Now, he ran out of bounds on a couple of those, right, 354 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there were a couple of gift sacks, but 355 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: still you earn several of them, especially the late that 356 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Jaquon McMillen sack was spicy. So there's a lot of 357 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: really good things happening here with the defense, especially the 358 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: defensive front. And I'm really liking the game that Vance 359 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: Joseph is calling. But I saw a lot of reaction 360 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: and I want some of your reaction to the Broncos 361 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: win over the Eagles. 362 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: How are you feeling about it. 363 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: What do you think it means for the season, which 364 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: you think about the offense the defense. I want to 365 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: hear from all of you out there on it. Benny 366 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: Fowler is going to join us here in a little bit. 367 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 368 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: I was looking at it this just out of curiosity 369 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: because we'd said going into the game against the Philadelphia Eagles, 370 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: who was a short week for the Broncos because they 371 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: played Monday night against Cincinnati, And one of the things 372 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: I talked about with Rick Lewis that week was, well, 373 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a benefit here for the 374 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: Broncos defense because they only played forty three snaps on defense. 375 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: The Broncos offense really controlled time of possession almost thirty 376 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: eight minutes eighty plays on offense for the Broncos offense 377 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: and that rolling win twenty eight to three. But the 378 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: defense only played forty three snaps. So I wondered how 379 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: that might help the Broncos defense, And obviously it did. 380 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: I mean, the defense kind of held their own and 381 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: they locked things down in the fourth quarter. The fact 382 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: that you were able to keep the Eagles not only 383 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: off the scoreboard in the fourth quarter, but these are 384 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: their final drives, their final Yeah, their final drives after 385 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: the touchdown, the Saquon Barkley touchdown in the third quarter, right, 386 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: that was their first possession. Four play seventy four yards. 387 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Alex Signalton got beats. It got burned on that, and 388 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: that's going to continue to be a little bit of 389 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 3: an issue. But here we go, five plays twenty three yards, 390 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 3: three plays minus sixteen yards, three plays minus six yards, 391 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: three plays two yards, and then the final drive six 392 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: plays forty five yards, some of that aided by penalty, 393 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: and then you had to hail Mary. But that was 394 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: all desperation at that point. I mean, that is incredible 395 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: for a defense playing on a short week, but it's 396 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: the aid of the offense. It was the fact that 397 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: the offense was so dominant against Cincinnati. As we continue 398 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 3: to talk about playing complimentary football, giving your defense extra 399 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: rest and not making them have to tip the scales 400 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: in their favor, this is a formula that is gonna 401 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: that kind of compounds on self that will help them 402 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: not only in the matchup of that day, but also 403 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: in the matchup the following week. And guess what you 404 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: did again here against the Philadelphia Eagles. Not only did 405 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: you tip the scale in time of possession thirty four 406 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: seventeen to twenty five forty three. But you had seventy 407 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: plays of offense to their fifty five. It's not to 408 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: say it's a light day at the offense versus the 409 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. They're a very good team, but they weren't 410 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: trying to play smashmouth defense with you. They weren't running 411 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: the ball at all against you. Really, the where and 412 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: tear probably is on the back end running with these receivers. 413 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: That's more than anything. 414 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about here, like total plays fifty 415 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: five yards. 416 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: They have thirty eight passing attempts. 417 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: Now, that's what it is you Now you factor in 418 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: the Jalen Hurts scrambles, right, because there's thirty eight plus 419 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: he had I guess only two carries. Technically that's forty 420 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: because he wasn't those weren't designed runs for Jalen Hurts. 421 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: He had forty passing attempts to nine rushes. That's good 422 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: news for the defense. Now, again, the Jets don't. The 423 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: Jets don't represent a significant challenge maybe covering justin fields, right, 424 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be mindful of where that guy 425 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: is in the field. But this is not the same 426 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: kind of deal as you're covering multiple number one wide 427 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: receivers there. 428 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: For the Philadelphia Eagles, that's not the case. 429 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: Garret Wilson is their best receiver by far, and that's 430 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: kind of it is a pretty significant drop off. We'll 431 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: get into that here in a little bit. But I 432 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: am joined his studio by the one and only Benny Fowler. 433 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: What's up, any what's going on? 434 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: How are you man? I'm doing well. How are you hey? 435 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: Man? 436 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: What a win? I'm great? I am great. I am great. 437 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: So I don't know it was there. Dave and I 438 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: were talking about this in the first hour. 439 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: Was there a moment for you that you thought, Okay, 440 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: they have a real chance in this Honestly, for me, 441 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: it was actually the first touchdown, after the first touchdown, 442 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: there's thirteen eleven left in the game. 443 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: That was kind of a moment for me. 444 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I think I think they win this game. 445 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 3: Oh you know, when I think about it, I didn't 446 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: think they could that they would win until they went 447 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: for the two and to for two. I was like, oh, 448 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: you know, Sean is playing to win, and he's going 449 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: for it, and he's going for the jugular and he 450 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: doesn't think that they can score and he has supreme confidence. 451 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: That's when I thought that they could win. 452 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: But I also thought after I saw the stutter go 453 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: by Saquon out of the backfield, that it was getting 454 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: ready to be a blowout. Well that was I mean, 455 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: that was the beginning of the third quarter. And yeah, 456 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: when him when he when he blew by Alex Singleton. 457 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: That that was easy. That was too easy. 458 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is going to be a problem for 459 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 3: the Broncos until they get Drake Greenlaw back healthy. 460 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: That's not going to help either. You don't think so, No, 461 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: you think this is more design. Yeah, that's design. 462 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Saquons of the best backs in the league 463 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: and if you can get him in space, and Philadelphia 464 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: did a great job just on that particular play of 465 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: oh if we get man and man, this is the 466 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: exact play if Dray green Law is out there, it's 467 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: the same result, just based off of Saquon and his 468 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: ability to run like a receiver at the running back position. Well, 469 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: then why don't we bring Drake green Law in? Isn't 470 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: He's supposed to have a little bit more speed, ability 471 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: to stay with running backs and tight ends. Yeah, he can, 472 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: he can cover somewhat, but I think there's always going 473 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: to be a it does. I don't think there's anybody, 474 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: any linebacker right now, probably besides Fred Warner that can 475 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: cover Saquan out of the best. Okay, so you're saying 476 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: more because he is that guy. Yeah, yeah, Drake green 477 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 3: Law is going to come in. He's going to also 478 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: bring the mindset, the mentality. But I don't think he's 479 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: a cover. Let me lockdown Saquon or Jonathan Taylor, let 480 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: me stop Tyler Warren. I don't think that's necessarily his 481 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: skill set. 482 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: So was this a technique? 483 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: I mean you said a scheme, but is this like 484 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: was Alex Singleton not in the right position for that 485 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: play or was this like sort of like Thanos. 486 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: It's inevitable. 487 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's inevitable the way you know, if you're getting 488 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: you're playing man and man, Saquon does a wide motion 489 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: to the outside, outside, outside the numbers. 490 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: You know it's man and man. 491 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: You get out Alex Ingle to come over over the 492 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: other line back in corps and hiked the ball and 493 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: now it's Saquan and Alex on an island. It's basically 494 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: one on one who's going to win this matchup. Saquon's 495 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: got the whole right side of the field. He got 496 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: too much space. 497 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw a similar situation with the Jonathan 498 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: Taylor obviously a few weeks ago. So allay general thoughts 499 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 2: of that, Well, start with the offense. 500 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: I was talking about the defense and Nick Benito off 501 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: to an unbelievable start. He's trending towards twenty four sacks. 502 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: So that's crazy, No big deal, no big deal. I 503 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: will come back to that a second here, but I 504 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: want I want to get your thoughts on the offense. 505 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: And yeah, there's a lot of frustration about the first 506 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: half and even into the third quarter. 507 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: But I re watched the game. 508 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: I thought there were some good concepts, there were some 509 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 3: good things that they were doing. There would be a 510 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: a penalty like an illegal formation that ended up kind 511 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: of killing a drive that that that's tough, you know 512 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: you have Bonicks had one of the penalties. I mean, 513 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 3: he had a couple of moments where it could have 514 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: really gone bad. 515 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 516 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: I didn't rewatch the game thinking like this was a 517 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: team that didn't know what they were doing. I think 518 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: they just finally were able to kind of lean on 519 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: the run a bit more. In the second half, the 520 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: offensive line started to get a little bit more push 521 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: and then opened some things up for the receivers on 522 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: the outside. 523 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: What did you see? 524 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you one thousand percent. I think 525 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: it never felt like. It didn't feel like the Chargers game. 526 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: It didn't feel like, oh, we're missing so many opportunities. 527 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 5: I agree. 528 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: It was like, oh, no, we're moving the ball a 529 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: little bit, then we're stalling. We're moving the ball a 530 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 3: little bit, then we're stalling. But I thought Sean had 531 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: a great game plan. I thought he called the plays 532 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: really well. I think when you look at the first half, 533 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: there were some opportunities that were missed. 534 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: The deep ball, I. 535 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: Think it was on the first possession or second possession 536 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 3: of Courtland Sutton. 537 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: Courtland makes a great. 538 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: Move move off the line and beats Quinny on Mitchell 539 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: down the field. 540 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: He just doesn't come up with the ball. 541 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: Then you have the f hide, so you have Trent 542 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 3: sherfield at the point of the bunch comes on the 543 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 3: play action fake, you know, act like he's blocking, and 544 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: then hides out on the left hand side of the field. 545 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: That play was open. Really will designate that Sean just 546 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: didn't complete that one. So I think there were some 547 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: opportunities for the Broncos really to have some big splash 548 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: plays that just weren't completed. And then the penalties. I know, 549 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: the penalties. The penalties are things that have to be 550 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: cleaned up. But then the fourth quarter Bow got going. 551 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: But to go back to your point in the first half, 552 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 3: you know, I did some film breakdown and I just 553 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: watched the film. I thought, this is Bo's best game 554 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: in terms of anticipation. It's throwing the ball on time, 555 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: and that's one of the most important things you cannot 556 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: stop in offense. And a quarterback who is thrown to 557 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: his receivers when they are on the same page. You 558 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: can think about the play action fake. In the first half, 559 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: Bow's rolling out to the right throws a twenty yard 560 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 3: stop Detroit Franklin. I mean he throws it that ball 561 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: to Troy before he even gets out of that break. 562 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: Both of the hitch routes to Courtland Sutton. He has 563 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: thrown that ball before he gets out of his break. 564 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: So I think the anticipation in timing was actually there. 565 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: The drives just weren't finished, and then you've got a 566 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: chance to see that in the fourth quarter where bow 567 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: was hitting things on all cylinders, there was a timing, 568 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: there was a rhythm, he was time on task, and 569 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: it was great to see him just complete complete those 570 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: those passes downfield. I completely agree with you, and I 571 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 3: know usually try to find things to argue about, but 572 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: in this case I can't because when I rewatched it, 573 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: I was actually more impressed with that. Though I saw 574 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people on social media melting down about 575 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: bo Nix's performance in this game, but I said a 576 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: little bit ago I kind of equated to a bit 577 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: of a PTSD over the last decade of Broncos fans 578 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: watching quarterback play here, and there are some people that 579 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: are still not one hundred percent convinced. Maybe they're six 580 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: sixty or seventy percent convinced Benix is the guy, but 581 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: they need more time to see him play to know, 582 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: and there does it get that buy in. 583 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: So maybe that's just simply the difference. 584 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: Right as you're watching boon Nicks there and through one lens, 585 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: you say, no, you just got to keep at it, 586 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: Just keep at it. This is a very good team. 587 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: You're eventually gonna get your wins. And when you get 588 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: your wins and you finally get to the red zone, 589 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: you got to capitalize. And that's exactly what they did. 590 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 3: It was kind of a boxing match, right, I mean, 591 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: you you just kind of kept it. It kept at it. 592 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: You were winning time of possession, you had more plays, 593 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: you were doing the right things that just hadn't quite 594 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: tipped the scale that you finally did, and you punched 595 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: in both those touchdowns, which obviously turned everything around. But 596 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: I think for a lot of Broncos fans, some media 597 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: as well, they're out there watching the first half and 598 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: they're thinking, well, if he's not the guy, then this 599 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: is really bad quarterback play and this team isn't going 600 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: to win any games if they continue to play like this. 601 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: So it is a little bit of a shifting of 602 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: a mindset for me. 603 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: What do you think? 604 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 3: Well right now, my initial thought right now is to 605 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: ask you a question, because you've watched more Bronco games 606 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: than I have over the last decade since I've left here. 607 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: I'd be curious to see what you think, or what 608 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 3: you know or what you have seen over that time period. 609 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: Have you seen anybody throw on time and on target 610 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: as well as he did yesterday, because I don't believe I. 611 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: Have seen that. 612 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: We have not no that, not even close, not even close. 613 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: But it's a results based business. Yeah, and when you 614 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: score three points in the first half, and in fact, 615 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: you score three points to the first three quarters, there's 616 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 3: a little bit of a Okay, well, it's great that 617 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 3: you're you're getting some some moments where you're getting into 618 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: plus territory, but if you keep stalling out, it really 619 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. 620 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: And if you had gotten to the end of the 621 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: game and say they. 622 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: Scored just one touchdown and then they end up losing 623 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: this game seventeen to ten, we say, well, boy, they 624 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: really fought like hell against a very good team. It 625 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: just wouldn't feel like enough for Broncoskins because they say, well, 626 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: you went on the road, and yeah, you're defense did enough, 627 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: but your offense clearly did not. And we just have 628 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: too much history of that. But no, I don't think 629 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: you got to separate. Yeah you do have to separate. 630 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: You got to separate at number one because if over 631 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: the last ten over the last ten years, Sean Payton 632 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: wasn't the coach, bo Nix wasn't the quarterback. You know, 633 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: it's different quarterbacks, it's different coordinators. 634 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: There's a lot of different things. 635 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: You cannot combine the last ten years into just watching bo. 636 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: Bo is still a second year player. 637 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: Bo Is a second year player with only five games 638 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: under his belt into his second year. I mean, this 639 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: is still a complicated offense. This still takes time. So 640 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: this is like a startup and Sean Payton's in year 641 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: three of the startup and bo is in year two. 642 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: And it takes a while for a business to develop, 643 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 3: It's going to take a while for quarterback to develop. 644 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you look at the Patriots and 645 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: Tom Brady's first year or the first year they actually 646 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. And I'm not going to say 647 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 3: that the Broncos are about to win the super Bowl. 648 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: But Tom Brady didn't throw any passes, any touchdown passes 649 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: in that postseason. 650 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: They still won it. So he became a really good quarterback. 651 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: I think. I mean, you're compared to one of the 652 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: old timers, But I understand your point. 653 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, what I'm saying, Yeah, what I'm saying is 654 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: that it will evolve and it will look different over time. 655 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: And when you look at bow he played really well, 656 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: and I haven't seen him throw the ball like that 657 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: since he's been here, and you know the anticipation. The 658 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: two back shoulder throws to Courtland, sudden, those are veteran throws. 659 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: It was incredible, and you know that was Those weren't 660 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: just veteran throws in terms of them being back shoulder, 661 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 3: the loft, the precision, you know, the little things that 662 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: receivers love, a veteran receiver loves, and that got to 663 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: have it situation on third and two and you throw 664 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: that ball to Courtland where he is pretty much even 665 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: with the dv dB, he's not open yet and you 666 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: throw him open. Those are veteran level throws. So Broncos 667 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: fan have to, you know, look at this from fifty 668 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: thousand feet up. Yeah, yeah, you know, some pretty ugly 669 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: football for the first three quarters. But to go fourteen 670 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: of eighteen in the fourth quarter in the second half 671 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: and then have the touchdown and then the two drives 672 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: and then the way he played on those two drives 673 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 3: where they scored, Yeah, that's an elite level quarterback play. 674 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: A couple of. 675 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Texts here on the ka Commas Spirit Health text line 676 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: five six six nine zero Ryan most exciting wins in 677 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty. For a young, growing team, beating the 678 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: defending champs on their turf is huge. This team had 679 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: struggled at closing out some games, and they did it. 680 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: Versus the NFL's best defense is really good. The most 681 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: exciting about is Roach and green Law having even played 682 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: a snap yet. Yeah, I mean they're going to get better. 683 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: You lost somebody on your offensive line today, obviously, been 684 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: Power is going to be out for a while, but 685 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: I do think that they have some options there. He's 686 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: been playing really well, but you do have some options 687 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: in the interior offensive. I want to get your thoughts 688 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: on out here in a second. I said this a 689 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: bit earlier, but I do think that there is something 690 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: to proof of concept. And when you lose a couple 691 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 3: of close games late to good teams, right, I'll be 692 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: a good teams with the Chargers and the Colts, there's 693 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: maybe maybe the locker room doesn't lose faith, but there's 694 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: a little bit of that in the back of your mind, 695 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: like are we really? 696 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: Are we really that team? Can we really win these 697 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: kinds of games? And then yeah, you beat Cincinnati the 698 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: way you beat them, it's okay. Well, Cincinnatis in a 699 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: bad way. 700 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: You beat Tennessee the way you beat them, Okay, Tennessee's 701 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: kind of in a bad way, But to do it 702 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: against a good team and to close a game. 703 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: David I said this earlier. 704 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: Sean Payton going for two was a mentality was We're 705 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: going to close this on our terms. We're not going 706 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: to kick the extra points and then watch Philadelphia go 707 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: down and kick a field goal to take the lead 708 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: and put the pressure back on us. We're bringing it 709 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: to them, and I think, and they didn't hesitate. This 710 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: was one of those. And there's still seven and a 711 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: half minutes left. There's still time if it didn't work out. 712 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: So I didn't hate the call at all. In the moment, 713 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: I kind of hated it because my heart was about 714 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: to fall out of my chest. But I didn't hate 715 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: the call because I thought that you gave yourself a 716 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: bit of a backstop, knowing that to shut everybody down, 717 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a chance to get the ball back though, 718 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: so on and so forth. But even if even if 719 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: they did drive down and kick a field goal, now 720 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: the pressure was on the Eagles for the first time 721 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: that day, pressure was solely on them, and you took 722 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: a moment where I think almost everybody in the world 723 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: thought you were kicking the extra point. 724 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: Because I'm like, God, you just tied the Super Bowl 725 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: champs who. 726 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: Were undefeated, and it's like, no, no, we're gonna win this 727 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: game in your house and we're not gonna leave this 728 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: up to chance like we did the last two games. 729 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: I loved it. Yeah, it's definitely a mindset game. 730 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: It's a statement win, and I do agree that it 731 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: is the best wins in Super Bowl fifty because there 732 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: was actually something at stake. 733 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's a measuring stick game. 734 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: Sean talking about this being one of the seven teams 735 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: that he's coached that has a chance to win Super Bowl, 736 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: talking about bow Nicks being a top four, top five quarterback. 737 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: This is how you measure up against these these types 738 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: of teams. Number One, Philadelphia is the most well rounded 739 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: roster in the league. You know, you got two receiver ones, 740 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: you got the best running back in football from last year, 741 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: great offensive line, great defensive line, great secondary, All Pro 742 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: at linebacker. They got to All Pro pretty much at 743 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: every position. Super Bowl MVP a quarterback, yep, exactly. So Yeah, 744 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 3: this was like, oh, yeah, we're coming in with a mindset. 745 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: My mom always talked about you got to play to 746 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: win in life, play to win, don't play not to lose. 747 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: And Sean, that's the mindset that he went in there with. 748 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: We're playing to win, and that's how he called the game. 749 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: He called the game aggressively, and you know, just being 750 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 3: in a locker room with Sean, I know exactly how 751 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: he talks and approaches games like that. And he approaches 752 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: those games with Yay, they tire our shoes just they 753 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: tie their shoes just like we tie ours, and we 754 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: can go in here and we can play with them. 755 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: And the fact that he said he had four or 756 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: five calls, I believe that too, where he knew he 757 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: was going to get the right look, the right defense, 758 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: and he was going to call those plays. He's one 759 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: of those coaches that watches all the touchdowns from the 760 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: week before of all the teams and he always ask himself, 761 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: do I have the players to come to to execute 762 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: this play? And then what's the right defense for this 763 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: play to work against? And that's exactly how he calls games. 764 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 3: And that's exactly when you even go back to the 765 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: week one of the season, and we're like, oh, fourth 766 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: and eight, what are you doing, Sean? That play was 767 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: wide open though a fleet flicker. On third and nineteen, 768 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: that play was wide open. The fourth and two touchdown 769 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 3: against the Chargers to Courland Sutton wide open. He has 770 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 3: these plays up his sleeve, and I mean, this is 771 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: something that's super exciting for Broncos countries because you know, you. 772 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: Should be expecting that every single week. 773 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 3: He's the only coach that I ever played for where 774 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: he would design things throughout the week, and usually when 775 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: you're playing for a coach, there's a chance of it 776 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: maybe working maybe not. Every time he would design something 777 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: and he would show us the film of the team working, 778 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: the team executing this play against the defense. It worked 779 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the time when I was in 780 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: New Orleans with him, and I had never seen anything 781 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 3: like that. Oh yeah, this is the look. We're gonna 782 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: get this, how we're gonna call it, And it worked 783 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: all the time. Incredible Betty Fowler and Studio. More of 784 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: your reaction coming up the next five, six, six, nine zero. 785 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Definitely want to hear from you guys on what your 786 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 3: reaction was to the win. What do you think it means? 787 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: We'll get to all the next