1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Our friend from the Tacoma News Tribune joins us. I'm 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: waiting for the tweet from Greg Bell, which says that 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: he is returning to the Tacoma News Tribune on a 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: one year deal in twenty twenty six. Like all these 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: college kids, this is this is unbelievable. Like every five minutes, 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: there's another Husky coming out. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: Hey, I just. 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Signed a new one year deal with Washington. I'm coming 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: back this year. Greg, holy smokes man re signed. Isn't 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: that great? 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 13 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 4: We come to when we come to well, quarterback the 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 4: quarterback in the Shugar and whatever the Cotton Bowl the 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 4: other night from Miami. Yeah, it went from Georgia. I've 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: believe that dollars transfer Carson back from from Georgia to 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: Miami got two million dollars from South Florida boosters. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Guys. Q knows this. 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: That's three times the minimum salary in the NFL. They're 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: they're outpacing three x guys that are going to play 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: in Seahawks forty nine ers. 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 5: Tom, that's crazy, absolutly I'm surprised it's only two million. 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 5: I thought Cam Moore got more than that. 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be wrong. 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: In the number, but just the fact, that's the fact 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: that these kids are eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one years 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: old making more than the guys who are going to 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 4: watch in the NFC Title Game to more night, NFC 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: West Title Game tomorrow night. Yeah, it's broken, man, it's broken. 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: It's no question about it. Let's talk about that NFC 31 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: West Title Game injury situation first and foremost. Let's start 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: at that left tackle position. Give us the scoop on 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: what's going on there. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 4: I think Josh Jones is going to play. I'm going 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: to start tomorrow. He's trending toward that. He's listeners questionable. 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: He practiced yesterday, he was part of their walkthrough in 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: preparations today. Mike McDonald course didn't want to give Kyle 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: Shanahan and the forty nine ers a word on that, 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: so he said he's questionable. We'll just go with that. 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: But I think he's done playing. They have Amari Kite, 41 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: the undrafted rookie from Central Florida who has a grand 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: total of two snaps on offense all year. They signed 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: him to the active roster from the practice squad as 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: an insurance policy this week, but McDonald earlier in the 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: week said that Jones got it, quote a little banged up, 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: which now I've come to know, and he's he's kind 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: of revealing when he says things about injuries, and. 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: When he says just a little banged up, that usually 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: means they play. And that's where Jones is right now. 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: The good news on that front for the Seahawks is 51 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: that McDonald's said that they I think Charles Jones is 52 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: going to put Charles Charles cross the girl left tackle 53 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: is going to play in Seattle's first playoff game whenever 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: that ends up proving to be good. 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: But getting back to Amari Kite, because if Josh Jones 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 5: has a setback, you're saying that Seattle's going to play 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 5: an undrafted free agent who has two snaps on the 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: year and he's from. 59 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: The Central Florida You see. 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, who's available other than him? 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: Well, it's signs of course Jones to be the swing. 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: Mason Richmond has played guard and tackle. The rookie drafted 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: third daydre pick, He's barely played at all this season either. 64 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: They say that Kite has really impressed them since the 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: beginning of the season. Now it would be chip Athon 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: with aj Barner and running backs and everything else, if 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: they had the Cook Kite, and you can bet that 68 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers and Robert Solo would scheme the 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 4: hell out of that edge as well. But I think 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: we're talking about something that's not going to happen. But 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: to Hugh's point, the guy coming off injury, if he 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 4: gets banged up in the game and has to come out, 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: they're saying it's going to be Amari Kite, and that 74 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: will be trouble. 75 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Any other injuries we should be worried about. 76 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: Rashisha heat is back somewhat miraculously. Usually don't come back 77 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: in a short week from a concussion. But Donald said 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: today that actually the original test, the concussion protocol test 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: in the stadium on game day when he got banged 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: by Mike Jackson out of bounds in Carolina, were favorable 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: and so gave him a head start on clearing. 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: Through the protocol cal quickly. He gets through the protocol, 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: improved by the third party play. He's not even on 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: the injury list. He is going to play. Kobe Bryant 85 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: will probably not play. 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: He's doubtful. 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: I think they're saving him for the first playoff game. 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: Next week, but. 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: Suffice to say that they're getting in the case. It's 90 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: hard to say this because we are blowing this game 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: up big and it is, of course the difference between 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: the one and the five seed for them having to 93 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: buy home field advantage. It's worth repeating the only three 94 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: times the Seahawks have had home to advantage NFC playoffs, 95 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: so they only three times they've made the Super Bowl. 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: Having said all of that, next week's I should say 97 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: the next game after this one is bigger than this sure, 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: because it'll be winning a winner or go home, So 99 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: they are saving cross for that. 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: It looks like they're going to save Kobe Bryant for 101 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: that too. 102 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: She heeds a big deal though. You guys know that 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: the Seahawks didn't have him in Week one and Niners 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: really just ganged up on Smith and Jigg, who still 105 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: had a pretty good day in the opener. But they 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: didn't have the deep crossers that She's going to run tomorrow. 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: They didn't have. 108 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: The field position flip that he can do in punt 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: and kick returns that she he's going to do tomorrow. 110 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: That's a different concern. Oh, by the way, a j 111 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: Barner he had two targets, one catch, no yards in 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: that opener. He's got four touchdowns in his last five games. 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: Klint Kubiak wants to throw the ball more to Barner. 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: That might start tomorrow night. I'd give Robert Salim the 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 4: defense something else to think about, but for A. J. 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: Barner to be an unsung key to tomorrow's game. 117 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: Greg Bell with us, Uh, not that you directly report 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: on this, but but what do you know about Trent 119 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: Williams and or George Kittle? Like what's available for us 120 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: to know about those guys or anybody else on San Francisco? 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, that's good point up in the cornerback as 122 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 4: a concussion. All they're all listen is questionable. I think 123 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: there's some gamesmanship going on with Shannon and I got 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: somebody's long time they area friends of mine when I 125 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: used to cover the Raiders who I've talked to the 126 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: last couple of days. The word I'm getting is Trent 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: Williams is not going to play that hamstrings who troublesome 128 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: and they're going to save him like the Seahawks are 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: with Cross and Bryant for the playoffs. It sounds like 130 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: Kittle's going to play and it looks like they kept 131 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: him out last week against the Bear so he could 132 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: play in this Wenning at the spring. Nkle in this 133 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 4: one game last week, so I'm expecting Kittle to play. 134 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 4: Williams to not and Upton he still hasn't cleared the protocol, 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: so he would probably be another one who's not going 136 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 4: to play. Ricky Piarsoll there's a chance he might play. 137 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: It questionable that people have talked to in San Francisco 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: said there's a chance that wide receiver who has been 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: out so much of this season will come back. Of course, 140 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: Fred Warner and Nick bos Is still uninjured, reserved big 141 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: holes in the defense for San Francisco. They had eighteen 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: sacks and seventeen games the worse than the NFL. I 143 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: think Darnold in the deep pass game is going to 144 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: come back tomorrow because the Niners an't going to be 145 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: able to get to them. 146 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: You talked to Sam yesterday, Greg, What did he tell 147 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: you that he learned about last year's Vikings Lions game, 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: which was the exact same stakes as this one, that 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: it turned out to be a disaster for him in Minnesota. 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, eighteen for forty one one sixty six, and 151 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: I absolutely got boat raised thirty one nine by Detroit 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: that he knows they knew the stakes last year. He 153 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: implied that he put too much on himself mentally entering 154 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: that game because the stakes being what they were, So 155 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: he said that not making big. 156 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: In it is. 157 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine time place with me going nuts. By 158 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: the way, he's going to have his San Clemente High 159 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: school football coach and quarterback coach. They're coming up. I 160 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: found that out too, those two guys in particular coming up. 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: He's excited about that too, but he was Donald was 162 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: really loose, much more joking with us than he's been 163 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: all the year yesterday. I don't know if that's been 164 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: a concerted effort on his partner. That's just how he 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: feels right now. Guys, they're gonna throw it deeper. They've 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: had to go shorter the last few weeks because some 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: pass protection issues, especially against the Rams. I think they're 168 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: going to exploit the forty nine ers lack of a 169 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 4: pass rush. Smith and Jiggs in line for a huge 170 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: game tomorrow. If Donald has time to throw. The question 171 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: becomes can he play a clean game? And Donald said 172 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: that yesterday, I need to play a clean game. Clint 173 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: Kubiak said, as great as Donald has been for them, 174 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: they will not win a championship turning the ball over 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: like they have. He of course, leads the league with 176 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: twenty of them, twenty eight turnovers for the offense, second 177 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: most in the league. Kubiak thinks that's the key. Don't 178 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: turn the ball over. We're gonna move it, We're gonna 179 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: score it. We've scored four hundred plus points, second in 180 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: the league and scoring we'll do that if we don't 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: turn the ball over and give San Francisco a short 182 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: field the match up points. And I think that's not 183 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: going to be just tomorrow night. That's gonna be the 184 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: key the rest of the postseason. 185 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: Well, the four interceptions against the Rams and down there 186 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 5: and so far and then the two brutal here, I 187 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: understand why that's a focus. I hope they don't just 188 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: over paralyze him, because you know, I said a moment 189 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 5: to go, you know, the Sale is gonna unleash the 190 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: deep ball more. They're gonna have the protection you got 191 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed uh and and and Greg to that point, 192 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 5: you know, I throw on the Carolina game game tape 193 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: and those Panther corners j C. Horn and Mike Jackson, 194 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 5: they were just squatting, pitching a tent right there, very 195 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 5: sussulptible to go route or double moves. And and I 196 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: bet they went on the tape and thought, wow, we 197 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: missed some opportunities, a lot of quarters covers. They didn't 198 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: get to the double post concepts. Did they speak anything 199 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: about that, like, wow, we kinda we we we should 200 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: have been more aggressive against the Panthers. 201 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: Not specifically, although they did say they were plays they 202 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: went back and plays they should have had and got 203 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: away from them. And I can pick a couple of 204 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: the same ones you are. Yeah, the one interception in 205 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 4: the end zone where he threw a two deep, respected Jake, 206 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 4: but I've heard you talk about that this week and 207 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: the pressure on him. 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 209 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: At the time, I thought that he had to get 210 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: rid of the ball sooner than he wanted to, and 211 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: that caused him to throw before he really read what 212 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: coverage they were in on that picture of what it 213 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 4: seemed like to me, But they have never as long 214 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: as I've been covering this team, even when the Niners 215 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: were down, I can't remember a Niners defense that has 216 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: not gotten to the quarterback, often less successfully than this one. Right, 217 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: and again it's because Bosa and Foreigner aren't in there. 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: But how many times have we come into a forty 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: nine er Seahawks game fearing for the quarterback's life and 220 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: thinking that that's going to change the whole game because 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: he's not going to have time to throw. That should 222 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 4: not be the problem tomorrow. Robert Salah's down there in 223 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 4: San Francisco has been trying to figure out should I 224 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: bring more pressure? And when in times he's done that, 225 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: guys like the Bears and Caleb Williams have killed him 226 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: with big plays because of that at pressure and blitzing, 227 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: the Niners don't blitz a lot, and I don't expect 228 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: in the blitz to mind if they don't blitz, And 229 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 4: because their front seven is not getting pressure, I really 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: think that's going to tilt the game. 231 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: The Seahawk's advantage on offense. 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: One touchdown in a month in the first half, Greg, 233 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: how does how does Kubiak explain that? How does Sam 234 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: explain that? What is going on there? 235 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: Well, no one has said this, but you got to 236 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: look at the script that Kubiak's putting into games. And 237 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: it comes into it because they've had field goals and 238 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: nothing else for better for five weeks now, and they 239 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: won't tell us how many plays they are. They're fifteen 240 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: to twenty. 241 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Five, is what Kubiak says, but. 242 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: Unless it comes thirty shorter goal line a third and twenty, 243 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: they stick pretty much to the first fifteen play Now, 244 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: the first fifteen players usually ends up being what three. 245 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Four drives, three drives. 246 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: So now you're into the second quarter. So that speaks 247 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: to their preparation, as damning as that sounds, how they're 248 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: game planning and scheming against what they think they're going 249 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: to see versus what they get. It tells me they're 250 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: getting trick and that they're expecting, for example, the Rams 251 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 4: defense to show one thing and give them another. They 252 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: were zero zero with the Vikings into the second quarter. 253 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: They were six six into the second quarter in Atlanta. 254 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: They had plans for one thing and the teams have 255 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: given them another, and it's taken them a while to 256 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: adjust effectively. Not that Kubiak hasn't adjusted, but the effectiveness 257 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: of those adjustments haven't shown up until the second half. 258 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 6: That needs a change too, because the siniors are going 259 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 6: to just sit back and do the same things they've 260 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 6: been doing for seventeen weeks, including in Week one, and 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 6: neither are the playoffs of Honing stepping up the next 262 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: couple of weeks. 263 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: That it's the game within a game every week in 264 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: the NFL. What have you planned to do versus what 265 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: the team is doing against you? And how quickly can 266 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: you pivot off that plan? The script's not working and 267 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: they need to hone in better on what the teams 268 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: are going to actually do to them versus what they've 269 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: already done. We'll see how much better the script is 270 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: tomorrow night. 271 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: Greg, the three of us and many of our listeners 272 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: have seen every single carry in Kenneth Walker and Zach 273 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 5: Charbonnay's career. For me, I might I'd have to think 274 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: about it more thoroughly, but I might argue that was 275 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker's worst game and just coincidentally, that might have 276 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 5: been Zach Scharbonay's best game last Sunday. I still am 277 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 5: a believer in Kenneth Walker on that regard. I'm you know, 278 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: one game is not going to tilt me off of that. 279 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 5: We remember what a great game Walker had against the Rams. 280 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 5: What do you have one hundred and sixty scrimmage yards 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: and so where and yet clearly we're coming off a 282 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: really good game by charbon Ay. Where where's the coaching staff? 283 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 5: What if you're reading tea leaves, how do you think 284 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: that the rotation's going to go tomorrow night? 285 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: What I guys gathered you out of the last game 286 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: was they wanted to go outside zone against Carolina and 287 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: they think they're outside zone back as Charbonay, one cut, 288 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 4: go get the shoulders turned upfield and get through the hole. 289 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: And I think Tomorrow's gonna be more of a mix, 290 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: and therefore they're going to You're to see more of 291 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker. In fact, I'd go out on the limb 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 4: and predict that Kenneth Walker is going to have a 293 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: better game than Charbonad tomorrow and maybe one of the 294 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: better games he's had all season. The Fred Warner is 295 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 4: a gaping hole in the middle of that Niners defense. 296 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: A lot of the. 297 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: Streat plays that Kenneth Walker runs into guys against the 298 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: forty nine Ers are the guy he's running into is 299 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: Fred Warner, and he's not there. We're talking to all 300 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: pro potential Hall of Fame player who's not in there. 301 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: Tomorrow night, look for Kenneth Walker, looking for him to 302 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: do a mix of runs, not just straight outside zone, 303 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: some inside zone, some gap pools and toss sweep some 304 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: things that they didn't. They will focus more on outside 305 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: zone against the Panthers than they've been in a while. 306 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: The results are great, one hundred and sixty plus yards 307 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,479 Speaker 4: in the second career on hundred yard game for Sharbonay, 308 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: But if you really look at those runs, really it 309 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: was only two large runs that gave him most of 310 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: those yards Sharbonnay, so it wasn't as if he was 311 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: grinding the entire game wearing down the Panthers. I'm with you, Hugh. 312 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 4: I'm still a guy who thinks Kenneth Walker is the 313 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: crux and the apex of their running game. And guys, 314 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: there are not bigger, There's not more at stake. The 315 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: two players have had the most at stake, I should 316 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: say tomorrow night and in the playoffs. Personally for their 317 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: futures is Kenneth Walker and Requalling. Both their contracts are ending. 318 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: They will not be more motivated Seahawks in Santa Clair 319 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: tomorrow than Kenneth Walker and Requilling. 320 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Final couple of minutes with Greg Bell adjusting to the 321 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: schedule to accommodate the short week. What have the Seahawks 322 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: done and there's been any complaints about, Hey, you're putting 323 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: us on a short week on back to back road 324 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: game situations. I saw where teams are just six and 325 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: thirteen in the last three years those situations. I don't 326 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: have the numbers on. You know, we're all those teams 327 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: that lost, you know, ten point underdogs. I would imagine 328 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: probably not, but it certainly does didn't seem like a 329 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: favorable situation for him. 330 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: It's funny because Kyle Shangan was bitching down in the 331 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: Bay Area this week about the short week too. If 332 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: we're them playing Sunday and again on Saturday. You know, 333 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: the players have now been around Mike McDonald long enough 334 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: to be smart enough not to say boo about that, 335 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: And m McDonald's like, so what when do we play? 336 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: What time we'll be there? And that's pretty much what 337 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: the players have gone with. They did more on a 338 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: Tuesday than they normally do, came in and had more 339 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: of a walkthrough type practice. Wednesday was a little lighter 340 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: than the normal Wednesday, and then Thursday was more of 341 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: a full go. It would normally be on a Thursday, 342 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: start tapering down a little bit on Thursday. Thursday was 343 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: a little more like their Wednesday as far as intensit goes. 344 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: And then today was the day before, which is hardly 345 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: anything and other than walk through and refine and make 346 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 4: sure you got the game plan down. So yes, condensed. 347 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: San Francisco is the same situation. The fact they got 348 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: Shaheed back health wise, the short week with that was 349 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: the main concern. If they get Josh Jones back like 350 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: I think they do, I think health wise it hurts 351 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers more guys like Trent Williams. How 352 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: healthy Even if Kittle plays, how healthy is he? Because 353 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 4: she heat and Jones it looks like Jones gonna be 354 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: back too. I think advantage Seahawks on the short week 355 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: part of that. It's not like the road trip is 356 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: a big deal down the coast. It's the shortest trip 357 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: they have in the league. They left today when they 358 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: normally leave two days ahead for the East Coast in 359 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: central time zone, so that's not a big deal either. 360 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: They're not using it as an excuse. I don't think 361 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: it's going to. 362 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: Be a big big deal. 363 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: My final question for Greg Bell. Greg, you're as close 364 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 5: as anybody to this team. Your ears on the road 365 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: track all the time. Anything top of mind about this 366 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 5: game or about the team that we haven't discussed, well. 367 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: I think Sam Darnold he's a really intriguing guy to 368 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 4: me because his ceiling to me seems so high that 369 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: his high risk, high reward. I didn't think when they 370 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: signed him he was all back. I didn't think he 371 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 4: was as high a ceiling as he's proved to be 372 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: when he's been good. He's been very good, and Hugh 373 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: and I have talked about this on the roundtable as well. 374 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: I would suggest he might even have been better than 375 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: the offensive staff and Kubiak pot he was it throwing 376 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 4: the ball accurately down the field. I think that's going 377 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: to be decisive tomorrow night. I keep bringing it up. 378 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 4: I'm emphasizing it. The lack of a pass rush. We 379 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: might see the best Sam Donald we've seen in eighteen 380 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 4: weeks tomorrow night, and that'll win him the NFC title, 381 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: NFC West title. I think that's going to be that 382 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: decisive to not pressure the quarterback, Donald, not forcing and 383 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: not having guys come crashing in on him when he's 384 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: lost the ball at times. I clean Donald, we could 385 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 4: have a three hundred yard plus passing night from him 386 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: tomorrow night if he doesn't give the ball away. I 387 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 4: don't see San Francisco scoring and keeping up with Donald 388 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: in the pass game. 389 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: To tell you why he's smoking a cigar. If that happens, 390 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: there is no question about that. He's going to be 391 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: a celebratory cigar from a lot of us. And if 392 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: that happens, Greg, real quick, before I let you go, 393 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about the article you 394 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: wrote comparing these Seahawks and the Lob Seahawks. I think 395 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: that was fascinating. I know you talked to Jaron Reed. 396 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: He's really kind of the only connection between the tail 397 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: end of the Lob and this one. What did you 398 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: come up with? 399 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 4: Well, I think, just as I mentioned now, I think 400 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: at quarterback, they have a higher ceiling past plays with 401 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: Donald than they did with Rout and Russell Wilson was great. 402 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 4: So let's say that the crux of that was Marshaun 403 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: Lynch setting that up, and their offense predicated on what 404 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: the defense does. I think Donald can win games by himself. 405 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: I also think this has a super Bowl quality defenses 406 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: right now, not as good player for player and position 407 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: as the Gleason Boomlanes. It's fascinating to me how different 408 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: now Seattle is when they play defense. You guys, remember 409 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: when it was Pete Carroll, it was four to three 410 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: cover three. My jimmies and Joe's are better than your exozose. 411 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: We're not getting out of four to three cover three. 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 4: We don't care if you know. Mike McDonald's is exactly opposite. 413 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: He doesn't wants you to know what we're in from 414 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: one plate to then next. What is Nick emon Worry 415 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: doing at defensive end? Oh, now he's a middle linebacker. 416 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: Now he's an outside lineback. Now's safety. 417 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: So he's exactly the opposite in Carol. 418 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: Yet I think he's got a deeper array to get 419 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: in his bag of athletes to do all the things 420 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: he wants to do. The defensive line at the top 421 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: end is I think better than the twenty thirteen team. 422 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: They're just not. 423 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: Nearly as deep. You guys, remember they had ten to 424 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: eleven guys on the defensive line in the first quarter. 425 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: Wearing guys down with this. They're not bad. But Leonard Williams, 426 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Murphy at the top end, I think 427 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 4: are better than the top end of the defensive line. 428 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: And let's let me say this too, the Marcus Lawrence, guys, 429 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: I think he's the best Seahawks right now, the best player, 430 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: the most impacting guy. 431 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: He is. 432 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: He's playmark at all protage. They're in his twelve year 433 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: and the Marcus Lawrence to me right now is the 434 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: team's MVP. 435 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: And you know, A thought on that, Greg, A thought 436 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 5: on that, Greg. Sam Donald's the eighteenth highest paid quarterback. 437 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 5: You know, thirty three minds. So look, I don't know 438 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: how they would have shuffled the money around, but it's 439 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: not an absurd inference to think, hey, paying Donald that 440 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: much lesson you. You know you're paying Geno for example. Yep, 441 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 5: you don't have any allow you to get Josh Jones 442 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 5: and DeMarcus Lawrence and whomever. 443 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: Right exactly. And oh, by the way, Sam Donald could 444 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: earn two million dollars tomorrow night with you as just 445 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 4: a decent night passing rate, passer rating, completion percentage, three 446 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: more touchdowns, one hundred and fifty yards. If he gets 447 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns, that's a 448 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: million dollars right there. 449 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: Wow, Greg, always a pleasure, enjoy yourself. Should be a fun, 450 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: fun atmosphere. I know you'll have a great time. 451 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 4: Have fun, guys, have a great weekend. 452 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg, Greg Bell from the coming new tribute. 453 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Greg gave me some comparisons there to the LOB teams. 454 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: I've got some numerical comparisons as well. We'll talk about 455 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: those coming up next on ninety three point three KJRFM. 456 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 457 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: brought to you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make 458 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: it at Duke's Night tonight. Reserve your table today at 459 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: dukeseafood dot com. Now back to Softy and Dick on 460 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 461 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: All right, thanks to Greg Bell for joining us. Mike 462 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Holmgren joined us earlier in the show as well, and 463 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a little fun with Ryan Fowler coming 464 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: up at six o'clock, our friend from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. But 465 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: Hugh Greg talked about the article he wrote about the 466 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: comparison between the LOB teams and these teams, and you 467 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: know you talked about some analytics earlier on and I 468 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: really think it's interesting. I looked. I went to Pro 469 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Football Reference and they have something called a Simple Rating 470 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: System and it based just uses a team's point differential 471 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: and mixes it with their strength of schedule that year 472 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: to assign basically a power rating to each team. Zero 473 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: point zero is considered the average the dead average football 474 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: team in a particular season, so you could either have 475 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: a plus number or a minus number, and the difference 476 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: in the two teams SRS ratings can be considered to 477 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: be essentially a point spread if they were to play 478 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: each other, disregarding the home field advantage. I wanted to see, Okay, 479 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: where where does this team rank in Seahawk pantheon in offense, 480 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: in defense, in overall, just in this one metric, the 481 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Simple Rating system put out by a very highly reputed 482 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: website that we all use. We've all used it for years, 483 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference dot com. And I think I think 484 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: people be interested to see how this team stacks up 485 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: because I think the general perspective from Seahawk fans is, yeah, 486 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: it's a really good team, but it's not an elite 487 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: Seahawk team. It's maybe, I don't know, the third or 488 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth best Seahawks team of all time. That 489 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: seems to me to be the reaction from the fan base. Well, 490 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: let's take a look. Let's go to defensive Simple rating 491 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: system and they would be right. The four years that 492 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks were number one in the NFL in point 493 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: differential or in points allowed. Twenty thirteen is their highest 494 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: defensive Simple rating at an eight point nine, so their 495 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: defense was eight point nine points better than the average defense. 496 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve was next at seven point seven, twenty fourteen 497 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: was next at seven point one, twenty fifteen next at 498 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: six point zero. So the four lob seasons followed by 499 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: this year at five point five. Let's move to offense. Well, 500 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: will you look at this, The twenty twenty five Seattle 501 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks are not only number one all time in Seahawks history, 502 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: they are number one by over a point. Hugh the 503 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: gap between this year and the Mike Holmgren Super Bowl team. 504 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: The gap is one point one points. That is the 505 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: same as the gap between the number two Seahawks offense 506 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: and the number eight Seahawks offense all time. Do you 507 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: feel like the Seahawks team offensively is the best one 508 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: you've ever seen. 509 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 5: I don't because in part because of how they've you know, 510 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 5: kind of been coasting right, like they are not finishing 511 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 5: with a bang. You'd like to think they're getting more 512 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: cohesion in year one with an offensive coordinator or quarterback 513 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: and on the like you know, you have got Raichi 514 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: heat on November fourth. So so I don't feel that way. 515 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 5: Number one, and then also Seattle is they're there are 516 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: number one or number they're number two in points. 517 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: As their number. Yes, they're number two in points, and 518 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: they're number two in points allowed. 519 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: But offensive points only, I believe there's seven. 520 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, because the defensive scored a. 521 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: Number piek and especially teams have scored and what have you. 522 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 5: So I don't feel that way now. Oddly, if you 523 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: inverted it and their first seven games were the most 524 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 5: recent seven games and then and then they went on 525 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 5: a heater for nine games, that would have made more sense. 526 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: Is like, look right there, you know they're gathering this cohesion. Essentially, 527 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 5: that's what Mike McDonald did at Baltimore in year one. Defensively, 528 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 5: that's what he did in Seattle. Like they they were 529 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: demonstrably better in the second half than the first. We've 530 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 5: gone through those numbers many times. So so we were 531 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 5: hoping for that offensively, haven't seen it, So no, I don't. 532 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 5: I don't feel like they were you know that two 533 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: thousand and five team with Hutch and Walt Right and 534 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 5: you know Shawn Alexander twenty eight touchdowns and Matt Hassebek's 535 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 5: starter in the Pro Bowl. I felt like they were 536 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: a more complete offense. 537 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: Well, overall, the SRS would say that the twenty thirteen 538 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: Seahawks team was the best. They said they were thirteen 539 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: points better than the average football team. 540 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 5: That's all off to the entire team, the. 541 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Entire team offense. 542 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Lobe, Yeah, yeah, I was responding to the correct. 543 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Correct, correct, And then overall, twenty twenty five Seahawks are 544 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: better than any other Seahawks team according to this metric. 545 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: And at least when you're comparing the rankings, we said 546 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks are second in offense, second in defense. I understand 547 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: that they're special teams and defensive points in there, but 548 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: just keeping apples to apples. Yes, in twenty thirteen, they 549 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: were ninth in offense, first in defense. In twenty fourteen, 550 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: they were tenth in offense, first in defense. Those were 551 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: not incredible offensive teams that the Seahawks had. When they 552 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: were going to Super Bowls two thousand and five, they 553 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: were second in offense and seventh in defense. So this 554 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: is the best. This is the best combination of offensive 555 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: ranking and defensive ranking then they've ever had by far, 556 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: not even close. 557 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm as about as in the bag 558 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: for Mike McDonald as a guy could be. Yep, So 559 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: love the defense. Don't want to detract from the defense. 560 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: I just think that prudence dictates you give the nod 561 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: to the lob. That team went four straight years leading 562 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: the NFL fewest points allowed. They're the only team in 563 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl era to do that. That twenty thirteen year. 564 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: They only had one game where they gave up more 565 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 5: than twenty five points. It was a loss at in Indy. 566 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 5: That was obviously with Peyton Manning and oh no, Peyton, 567 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: I'm sorry that would have been no Peyton Manning was 568 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: in Denver by then, So I stand correct. But I 569 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 5: think the two games that Seattle had defensively against Tampa 570 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: Bay and against the Rams where I did where you're 571 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 5: just kind of going, what the hell is going on here? 572 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: Right? 573 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 5: Like? So they played sixteen games. Fourteen games. I and 574 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 5: I see assume most Seahawk fans are just going, oh 575 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: my god, I love this defense, I love our coach everything. 576 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: But when the wheels fell off on two occasions, they 577 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 5: they didn't weren't just couple, you know, loose lug nuts. 578 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: The whole wheels came off in those two games. 579 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: Defense. 580 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: So there's a non zero chance that happens tomorrow. Oh absolutely, 581 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: We don't think it's gonna happen tomorrow, but there is 582 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: a chance that that brock pretty and the Niners go 583 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: for thirty five tomorrow because it's happened twice against the 584 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Seahawks this year. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take it 585 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: they are sounding the alarms. We're gonna talk a little 586 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: bit more about those college football games. Yesterday we went 587 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: in depth a little bit about the the ole Miss 588 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Georgia game. Haven't talked about the other two. And then 589 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: what the Big ten is doing, uh VISA v. The SEC. 590 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: We'll do that next on ninety three point three KJFM. 591 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is 592 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: brought to you by Duke Seafood. Why don't you make 593 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: it at Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at 594 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: dukeseafood dot com. Now back to Safti and Dick on 595 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 596 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Final segment with our friend you Breed Love Milin. We're 597 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna let him go and chat with Ryan Fallon. In 598 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: the next segments, we're gonna have Big Al Kaniski talking 599 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: hockey at six forty five leading up to the Kraken 600 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: and the Vancouver Canucks. We talked a lot about the 601 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the SEC victory last night is ole miss gets the 602 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: win over Georgia, and did not talk much about the 603 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Oregon game, which was a disaster offensively on both sides 604 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. Miami incredibly impressive. But you know, the 605 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: one thing that kind of stuck out to me, Hugh 606 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: and where we sit in the college football playoffs is 607 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: we are assured that the Big Ten will have four 608 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: of the last six national championship content contestants if you 609 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: count Washington as a Big Ten contestant, even though at 610 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: the time they were in the Pac twelve, they are 611 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: now in the Big Ten. As we all know, they 612 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: will have four the last six national championship contestants. The 613 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: SEC will either have one if OHI if ole Miss 614 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: wins it this coming week, or they will have zero 615 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: in three years in a row, completely shutout of the 616 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: national championship game. I mean, is this is this a 617 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: true shift that we're seeing you or is this just 618 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: a short term blip on the radar? Do you think? 619 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: Well? 620 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: First of all, I don't know how much of a 621 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 5: shift it is. I think there's no question at the 622 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 5: top of the conference. The Big Ten for the last 623 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: couple of years has been the best team as far. 624 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: But we're talking about conferences that have sixteen eighteen teams. 625 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: I still believe the SEC is the best conference. I 626 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 5: don't hesitate and and I'll just put some numbers. I 627 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 5: understand they've had just the aggregate numbers doesn't look like 628 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 5: they've had a good bowl season. Let me make some comparisons. 629 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: The Big Ten is nine and four, the SEC is 630 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: four and eight. So you say, slam dunk, right, the 631 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: Big Ten has four to By the way, I barked 632 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 5: about the PAC ten and Pack eight and Pac twelve 633 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: for decades and I'll continue to do so. But I'm 634 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 5: just I gotta have some objectivity here. The Big Ten 635 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 5: has had four wins against Group of five. Okay, so 636 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 5: the SEC has one, they're one to no whereas versus 637 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: four and oh. So now that I take that down, 638 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 5: the Big Ten down to five and four and the 639 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: SEC down to three and eight, I throw those games out. Okay, 640 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean Okay, Now I'm not saying you have 641 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 5: to agree with my methodology. I'm gonna lay my methodology out. 642 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you my conclusion, and I can decide. 643 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 5: There's the Big Ten didn't play any Big Ten teams 644 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: against each other yet thus far, SEC has had two games, 645 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: so they're two and two, and in those games, Oklahoma 646 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 5: and Georgia got knocked out, so they never had a 647 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: chance to beat anybody else to help the SEC. 648 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Record, but they also had a guaranteed advancement. 649 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: How they did, I'm throwing the wins and the lossuitay, 650 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 5: So now now we're down to five and four for 651 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: the Big Ten and one in six for the SEC. 652 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 5: Doesn't sound too good, right, But let's go for the 653 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 5: seedings and the methodology. I'll explain like this. Yesterday, everybody's 654 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 5: saying Indiana hammered Alabama. Indiana was the number one Big 655 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: Ten team. Alabama was the number five SEC team. So 656 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 5: what we can do is we can equate a negative 657 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 5: four to that got me negative four. That's just the methodology. 658 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 5: And when Virginia the number three se or ACC team 659 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 5: beat Missouri the number eight, that was a negative five 660 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 5: for the SEC got me. 661 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't know if i'd give you the 662 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: ACC is such a weak conference. I mean that that 663 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: to me doesn't equate as much as as the one 664 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: versus five when you're talking about Indiana, because then you're 665 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: you're talking apples and apples when you're comparing Big ten 666 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: and SEC. In my book, you're comparing apples and apples 667 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: as soon as you get outside of it. Because you 668 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: threw out the group of five, I'm not going to 669 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: throw out the Big twelve in the ACC. But they're 670 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot lower tier than the Big 671 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: ten and the SEC in my oint. 672 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 5: Well, but you're comparing the Big ten by the same 673 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 5: methodology to the to the SEC. Okay, so we're including 674 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: we're including the Big twelve and the ACC because they're 675 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: power four. 676 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you would agree that they're You would agree 677 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: that the gap between the Big twelve and the and 678 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: the Big ten and the SEC and the next two conferences. Yes, 679 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: might not equal the gap between those two and the 680 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: group of five, but it's pretty large. 681 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 5: Well I understand, but when you're talking about one team's 682 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: third best team versus number eight and the score set 683 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 5: thirteen to seven. Look, I know we got a short segment. Sorry, 684 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 5: let me just finish up here. So so this is 685 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 5: how the conferences go. The Big twelve, this is all 686 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: excluding a group of five. Big Tail twelve is four 687 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 5: and three. They have a aggregate plus five seed remember, okay, 688 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: plus five, all of them. Out of those seven games, 689 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 5: they're plus five. The ACC is four and two. They 690 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: have an aggregate plus fifteen, meaning they are the higher 691 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 5: seeds on average of those you know, fifteen total out 692 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 5: of six out of six games, they are a higher 693 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 5: seeded team than their opponent. 694 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: Not me. 695 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: The Big ten is they are a ninth. They're five 696 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 5: and four. They're the they have a minus seven, which 697 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 5: is point eight per game, point eight per game. They're 698 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 5: minus seven and in five of the nine games they 699 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 5: had the better seedings. So you'd expect them to go 700 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 5: five and four. I guess what they did. They went 701 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 5: five and four. Now let's get to the SEC all 702 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 5: seven games we said they're one and six. Yep, all 703 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 5: seven of the game of their games they were the 704 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 5: lower seed and by an aggregate of minus twenty. So again, 705 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: but were they. 706 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: Favored in those games? Just because they were lower seed 707 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they were the underdog. 708 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: But that's irrelevant what you're talking about the seeding of 709 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: the conference. We're going Big ten, Big twelve is plus five, 710 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 5: ACC is plus fifteen, Big ten is minus seven. But 711 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 5: for a point eight average, the SEC is minus twenty, 712 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 5: so two point nine they they averaged in their games 713 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 5: two point nine, basically three spots below in their standings 714 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 5: compared to their opponent. And and so in any event, 715 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 5: I would just go ahead. 716 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: And close, and then I'll close with my thought real 717 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: quick before you get a break. 718 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they asked to see a set an NFL 719 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 5: record for fifteen first rounders. Last year, they have forty 720 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: six percent more starters in the NFL. Look, I still 721 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 5: think the SEC top to bottom is the deeper conference. Okay, 722 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 5: the whole thing is really really, really misleading for this year. 723 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: I can I can handle that. I just I just 724 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: know a couple of days ago, when I was pumping 725 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: trumpeting the Big ten record, you were like, well, what 726 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: about the guys that pulled themselves out of and didn't play, 727 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, And then we're talking about and now we'd 728 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: have to figure out of these games, which team had 729 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: six guys out, which team had one guy out. But 730 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: we got to take a break. Jackson's waving at me, 731 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: I gotta take a break away over. I appreciate it. 732 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: Man. 733 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Ryan Sweller coming up next to ninety 734 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM.