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Speaker 4: and so on. What a couple of days for the FBI.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the drug bus. We heard about drug

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Speaker 4: bus all the time. I from what I've been able

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Speaker 4: in terms of not necessarily quantity of drugs that were confiscated.

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Speaker 4: That was not the goal of this. Sometimes these raids

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Speaker 4: millions of dollars of the drugs. That was not the

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Speaker 4: purpose this. The purpose of this one was to nail

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Speaker 4: several drug crankpins and confiscate drugs in the process. This

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Speaker 4: was an investigation that involved more than a dozen law

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Speaker 4: enforcement agencies in Illinois and Wisconsin. The federal government had

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Speaker 4: numerous agencies that were involved because the arrest itself that

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Speaker 4: the rest occurred were seeing in Milwaukee, but the major

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Speaker 4: the titular head. But the FBI was the one that

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Speaker 4: did all of the announcing of all of this. But

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Speaker 4: there were fourteen SWAT teams. They had a black Hawk helicopter.

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Speaker 4: In other words, the force that was shown here was

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Speaker 3: Armed resistance.

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Speaker 4: It didn't occur, and the takedown is apparently quite big.

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Speaker 4: Whenever the FBI has like a title for the thing,

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Speaker 3: Hopefully this is not one of those things. Operation chalk Line.

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Speaker 4: We all know that the drug problem in the United

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Speaker 4: So this was a major twenty two arrests so far,

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Speaker 4: As a way of trying to tell them that you

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Speaker 4: There may be any number of other people that come

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Speaker 4: incredible coordination. And the other part that I want to mention,

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Speaker 4: The fear with regard to people involved in sports getting

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Speaker 4: That's when they're getting on. You know, the bookmakers and

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Speaker 4: Chauncey Billips, who was a star for many years with

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Speaker 3: And again the fear.

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Speaker 4: With regard to athletes is if they sustain massive losses

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Speaker 4: paragraphs here. Portland Trailblazers coach Chauncy P Billips and Miami

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Speaker 4: Heat guard Terry Rozier were arrested Thursday as part of

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Speaker 4: Rogier was taken into custody at Orlando, where the Heat

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Speaker 4: of a betting ring that he would leave a game early. Now,

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Speaker 4: points spread and the over under. Now there's propositions on

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Speaker 4: Rosier's agent, Aaron Turner, confirmed Rogier was arrested in relation

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Speaker 4: Now what the allegation is whose activities occurred prior to

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Speaker 4: In response to the federal indictment of Portland Tales Bazers

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Speaker 4: Wise nor any of the people involved in the other

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Speaker 4: efforts are right wing propagandists. For the most part, they

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Speaker 4: are thoughtful and honest journalists intent on restoring high standards

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Speaker 4: and pushing the pendulum back a little toward the plumb line.

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Speaker 4: But the sheer horizontal and vertical reach of the progressive

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Speaker 4: mindset in the newsrooms. The entrenched nature of their ideological

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Speaker 4: skill will militate against the successful resetting of their compass.

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Speaker 4: I used a lot of words here. I'll translate that

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Speaker 4: into more understandable. They're so lefty, they're so hoity toity,

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Speaker 4: that it's almost impossible to.

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Speaker 3: Move them back to reality.

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Speaker 4: Baker continues, And there's another concern. If these charges are

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Speaker 4: mainly the result of opportunistic business leaders eager to curry

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Speaker 4: favor with a president unusually active in wanting to direct

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Speaker 4: media coverage, it won't work. In other words, he's saying,

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Speaker 4: if all this is being done just becau some of

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Speaker 4: these media executives on a psych up to Trump, it's

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Speaker 4: not going to work. It's got to be because they

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Speaker 4: actually want to bring journalism.

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Speaker 3: Back and get the hackery out back to the column.

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Speaker 4: There is enough cynicism in the news as it is.

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Speaker 4: If the objections of if the objective of reforming newsrooms

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Speaker 4: is perceived as simply reshaping them into outlets favorably disposed

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Speaker 4: to Trump, it will only calcify the mistrust people already have.

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Speaker 4: It isn't true that trust in the media has simply

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Speaker 4: collapsed across the board. Instead, it has become partisan. Consumers

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Speaker 4: trust only what they already believe. Without structural change, a

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Speaker 4: repopulation of the demographically educationally geographically sealed units, these places

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Speaker 4: have become real, change is improbable. That change is harder

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Speaker 4: still in organizations rooted in all forms of pre digital

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Speaker 4: content delivery, changing form and content at the same time

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Speaker 4: as Herculean, let me interject, I've talked forever about this

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Speaker 4: following point.

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Speaker 3: The people who scream.

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Speaker 4: The most for diversity, diversity, diversity never believe in ideological diversity.

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Speaker 4: True diversity means that you have people whose thoughts come

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Speaker 4: from across the spectrum. They have no particular desire to

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Speaker 4: have lots of conservatives running American universities and lots of

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Speaker 4: conservatives in new zooms, or for that matter, lots of

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Speaker 4: conservatives and government.

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Speaker 3: They don't want that kind of diversity. So that's the

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Speaker 3: entire problem.

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Speaker 4: They don't want the very thing that Baker is saying

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Speaker 4: they need to go back.

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Speaker 3: To in order to survive.

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Speaker 4: He concludes his column, Still, we should wish them luck,

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Speaker 4: and by we, I don't mean only conservatives. I mean

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Speaker 4: everyone who has an interest in fair, honest, and objective

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Speaker 4: news and information as the means by which people are

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Speaker 4: informed about their government and the way they hold the

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Speaker 4: powerful accountable. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This

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Speaker 4: is the Mark Belling Podcast. In the last segment, I

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Speaker 4: shared a column from The Wall Street Journal by Gerard

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Speaker 4: Baker in which he talked about the challenges that are

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Speaker 4: going to face anybody who owns a news media organization

494
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Speaker 4: and trying to reorient it back toward actual journalistic fairness.

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Speaker 4: The following topics related to this. Part of the problem

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Speaker 4: is that, aside from the fact that they've been biased

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Speaker 4: to the left forever, Trump has made some people in

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Speaker 4: this country crazy. They have turned Trump into this caricature

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Speaker 4: in which the very sight of Trump has made them

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Speaker 4: lose their marbles. Well, this is clearly what's going on

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Speaker 4: with the media, but it's not limited to the media.

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Speaker 4: We have several stories here that are broadly from this

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Speaker 4: area of Trump derangement syndrome, although a couple of them

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Speaker 4: don't specifically deal with Trump.

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Speaker 3: Here's this one.

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Speaker 4: Stories from Massas they were in adjacent to one of

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Speaker 4: the No King's rallies, some Trump supporter dressed himself up

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Speaker 4: as like one of those inflatables.

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Speaker 3: You know what an inflatable is, don't you. It's like

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Speaker 3: it's like this big bubble thing.

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Speaker 4: And he dressed himself up as Trump and he's in

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Speaker 4: this inflatable and he's got like a mouthpiece that it

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Speaker 4: came on, and we's saying pro Trump things and he's

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Speaker 4: doing this next to the No Kegs rally. It's the

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Speaker 4: kind of thing that lefties have done forever. When you

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Speaker 4: see conservatives around, some left he goes and beats the

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Speaker 4: crap on him. He's in an inflatable and he beats

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Speaker 4: him up, beats him up.

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Speaker 3: He of course has been caught. Now.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that's been happening is, given the

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Speaker 4: fact that there's no cameras everywhere, pretty much anything that

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Speaker 4: anyone does is being caught. And secondly, given know that

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Speaker 4: there are some conservatives and position of authority, you can't

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Speaker 4: just automatically assume you're gonna get away with it anymore.

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Speaker 4: Let me quote from Fox News. A Massachusetts man has

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Speaker 4: been charged after alleged the assaulting a supporter of President

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Speaker 4: Trump who was wearing an inflatable costume of the president

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Speaker 4: at a political protest over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Police said this.

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Speaker 4: Occurred on King's Beach in the North Shore, Massachusetts town

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Speaker 4: of Swampscott, just outside Boston. This is probably I don't

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Speaker 4: know any about the city, but I'm guessing this is

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Speaker 4: like Shorewood on steroids.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those type of places.

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Speaker 4: Cell Phone video captured the moment that Michael Curly I

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Speaker 4: think that that's the correct pronunciation.

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Speaker 3: It maybe curl see. Yeah, I think it's cu rll thirty.

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Speaker 4: Six ran up behind the man in costume identified as

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Silvera, and allegedly kicked.

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Speaker 3: And tackled him from behind. Silvera's girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: So the guy who's in the inflatable he brings his

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Speaker 4: girlfriend a log. Now some people are gonna say, well,

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Speaker 4: he was asking for it. Well, I think he was

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Speaker 4: trying to trigger them and they took the bait. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he thought they'd have the crap kicked out

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Speaker 4: of him. Silvera's girlfriend, Angelo Masariegos, was behind the camera

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Speaker 4: during the alleged assault. Silvera, who held an American flag

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Speaker 4: well dressed in the inflatable suit, told Boston twenty five

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Speaker 4: News he simply wanted to go. He wanted to get

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Speaker 4: Trump out there and show that he has support. I

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Speaker 4: love Donald Trump. Swamp Scott Police said Curl hooked Silvera's

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Speaker 4: legs and wrapped his arms around his neck, knocking him

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Speaker 4: to the pavement, according to a police report of Pained

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Speaker 4: by Boston twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That's a TV stage, don't it. That's my first story.

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Speaker 3: Here's another one.

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Speaker 4: This one doesn't directly relate to Trump, but it's along

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Speaker 4: these lines we've talked.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: There's two states that have governor's races this year. Almost

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Speaker 4: all states have their governor's elections, like Wisconsin does in

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Speaker 4: even number years. There's a couple of states that do

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Speaker 4: it in odd number years. There's an election going on

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Speaker 4: in New Jersey and there's an election going on in Virginia.

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Speaker 4: In Virginia, the current incumbent Governor Youngkin, he's term limited out.

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Speaker 4: Virginia is a Democratic state. Youngkin somehow won. The Republicans

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Speaker 4: are trying to hold the seat. Youngkin's Lieutenant Governor Winsome

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Speaker 4: Earl Searles, who is black, is the Republican candidate. She's

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Speaker 4: trailed in the race, but she's gained. She's very conservative

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Speaker 4: and she's very eloquent.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: James Madison University football game James Addison is a very

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Speaker 4: good team. If you're not aware that level. Winston, Earl Winston,

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Speaker 4: Earl Sears was at the game campaigny, you know, shaking

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Speaker 4: hands to with you.

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Speaker 3: Know, supporters and so on.

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Speaker 4: Some guy starts yelling at it. I remember she's a

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Speaker 4: black woman, thirty six. She's also originally from Haiti. Take

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Speaker 4: a guess what he yelled at her. Say a guess,

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Speaker 4: real simple, No, you go beyond the end word. It's

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Speaker 4: just the kind of thing that you in the past

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Speaker 4: they always would accuse of a.

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Speaker 3: Conservative of doing.

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Speaker 4: When a conservative racist conservative was triggered, he said.

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Speaker 3: Go back to Haiti. He's captured on video doing it.

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Speaker 4: The guy has a big time job at Lockheed Martin,

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Speaker 4: the big defense contractor.

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Speaker 3: He's been fired.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that's been happening now, and it's

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Speaker 4: a good thing, is that it isn't only conservatives who

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Speaker 4: are getting in trouble for this stuff. When it starts

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Speaker 4: happening to lefties as well as conservatives. You may get

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Speaker 4: some lefties who will come back and say, what about

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Speaker 4: Fraisbach and who is really harmed and shod this, We're

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Speaker 4: ruined your career and so on. But we saw what

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Speaker 4: happened to a woman who worked for manpower and a

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Speaker 4: high powered job who said something I think far less

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Speaker 4: racist somebody call is nowhere near as racist as go

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Speaker 4: back to Haiti. If the left is now going to

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Speaker 4: be on the receiving end of the you're ruining your career.

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Speaker 4: You're ruining your life the way we conservatives have forever.

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Speaker 4: At least the playing field has leveled him lit cellf Ohonte,

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Speaker 4: which gets back to this point with regard to the

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Speaker 4: guy yelling this go back. I mean, most conservatives who

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Speaker 4: have any kind of position of status in life would

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Speaker 4: certainly know that you can't yell anything like that to

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Speaker 4: a person who is black. The LEFTI have probably never

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Speaker 4: dawn on it because of this sense of a titlement

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Speaker 4: that they could be as racist and horrible, as monstrous

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Speaker 4: as they want because they're never held to account for anything.

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Speaker 4: That's what's changing the next story. You want to find

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Speaker 4: a story in the news that is triggering the lefties,

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you they are beside themselves about the Trump ballroom.

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Speaker 3: They're just beside it.

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Speaker 4: If I had no position in whether or not we

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Speaker 4: needed to improve the b at the White House, I

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Speaker 4: would be in favor of it just because it's driving

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Speaker 4: the left he's crazy.

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Speaker 3: First of all, they're.

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Speaker 4: Acting as though Trump's gonna take it with him when

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Speaker 4: he leaves. Trump can only live there for three years

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Speaker 4: in four more months. Secondly, it has been talked about

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Speaker 4: forever and ever and ever by both sides that when

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Speaker 4: the White House hosts Stave ginners, it's almost hardly anybody

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Speaker 4: can get an invitation because the banquet room or the

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Speaker 4: ballroom at the White House is tiny. It's been talked

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Speaker 4: about forever that we can't hold these large things that

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Speaker 4: you can, for example, have an arts celebration, and you

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Speaker 4: can't feed a large group of people because the White.

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Speaker 3: House is a small ballroom.

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Speaker 4: David Marcus is a columnist for Fox News, writes a

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Speaker 4: piece on this, and the point that his piece is

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Speaker 4: that the White House has been renovated and had things

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Speaker 4: added to it forever by presidents, and always the presidents

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Speaker 4: who were doing it is.

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Speaker 3: Because it was something that they wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: As in the case of Trump, this is something that

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Speaker 4: will live long beyond him. Paul says, Obama's basketball court,

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Speaker 4: that's one of them. There's numerous of these in which

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Speaker 4: presidents have put something in the White House because it

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Speaker 4: was something that they wanted to do, and there wasn't

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Speaker 4: a peep of objection.

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Speaker 3: From anyone over this. Let me quote his piece.

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Speaker 4: By the way, apparently this is not surprising to be

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Speaker 4: but among the people most appalled by this are the

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Speaker 4: Battle Axis from the View again, I wouldn't even just

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Speaker 4: this is just again, whether or not we need to

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Speaker 4: have the new ballroom or not, the fact that this

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Speaker 4: is driving those old women crazy that makes me happy

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Speaker 4: that they're doing it.

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Speaker 3: I just the Democrats or socialists or whatever they are.

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Speaker 4: These days, are hoping. This is David Marcus. And by

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Speaker 4: the way, that's the name of someone from here in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: That's not who this is. This is a national commentator

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Speaker 4: who writes for Fox News. Shouldn't have to point that

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Speaker 4: out in the common name. But I will our hopping

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Speaker 4: mat over President Donald Trump's construction of a ballroom in

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Speaker 4: the East wing of.

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Speaker 3: The White House.

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Speaker 4: And while it may be the silliest freak out of

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Speaker 4: the entire Trump era, it is also quite telling. The

662
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Speaker 4: ladies on ABC's The View were apoplectic when they saw

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Speaker 4: images of demolition a fairly ordinary way to begin renovation

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Speaker 4: at sixteen hundred of the saw this, and you know

665
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Speaker 4: they're knockings. Well, how else do you do a renovation

666
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: other than knocking down what's already in there. Anybody who's

667
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: ever got a new bathroom or a kitchen and their

668
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 4: house realizes they bust up the thing that's already in there. Right,

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing you get that. Every three years you renovate

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Speaker 4: something out there in the see you just finish. Say,

671
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying back to the piece.

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Speaker 3: What makes this? Oh?

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Speaker 4: They echoed one time Resident Hillary Clinton's complained another person.

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Speaker 4: You know why Hillary's hacked off about this? She's she

675
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Speaker 4: thinks she should be have been in that White House

676
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Speaker 4: for eight years. She still can't stand the fact that

677
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Speaker 4: she lost. Can you imagine if she got in with

678
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: that ball room would look like? Bill wasn't focused on ballrooms.

679
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: Bill was focused on Hell it's too easy. It was

680
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Speaker 4: a play on words.

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Speaker 3: It's two.

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Speaker 4: You can figure it out. I'm on a podcast, I'm

683
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Speaker 4: not allowed to do anything I want. I still can't

684
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Speaker 4: bring myself to do anything I want anyway. What makes

685
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 4: this argument so absurd is that Trump is not building

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Speaker 4: this ballroom for his personal.

687
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Use or glory. It's not a vanity project.

688
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 4: It is a long considered addition to the executive home

689
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Speaker 4: that lacked the capacity to hold large indoor events. Trump,

690
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: as has always been his want, is looking to create grandeur,

691
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: and that seems to be something to which leftists reflexively object.

692
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 4: I think that Marcus is on to a point here.

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Speaker 4: The Trump want says to be beautiful and great and grand,

694
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: and lefties hate anything that in America is beautiful, great

695
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Speaker 4: and grand.

696
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Speaker 3: I have a post by the way on X it

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Speaker 3: was picture Paul said me.

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Speaker 4: I've been talking for some time about how brutally ugly

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00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: the new Milwaukee Public muse which isn't going to be

700
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: called the new Public Public Museum is. They're building this

701
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Speaker 4: thing just to the north of viceer Form, and it's

702
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: so unbelievably terribly ugly, and it's in the process of

703
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Speaker 4: going up, so you now see more of the exterior

704
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Speaker 4: there and just go take a look at it.

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Speaker 3: That's what lefties want.

706
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: They want to spend a fortune to do something that's

707
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Speaker 4: so but ugly that you can't stand looking at it,

708
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: and then claim that they're on the cutting edge. The

709
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: idea of doing something great and beautiful which is you know,

710
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: Trump's ballroom is going to be gorgeous. Everything Trump does

711
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: is high end. It's the thing that he's put his

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Speaker 4: name on. He wants the legacy to have created a

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00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: beautiful ballroom and left he just can't stand they don't

714
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: want a beautiful ballroom, especially as long as Trump is

715
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Speaker 4: in the White House. The funny thing about this is

716
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: the timeline on this is that it's going to be

717
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: fully done about in time for the next president to

718
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Speaker 4: come in. I'm guessing if they finish this thing and

719
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Speaker 4: AOC gets herself elected, she's not going to close the

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Speaker 4: ballroom down.

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Speaker 3: She'll be basket around in that thing and imagine.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Trump is obviously not the first president to renovate the

724
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Speaker 4: White House. President Franklin Dello Roosevelt put in a swimming pool.

725
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Speaker 4: His successor, President Harry Truman, practically gutted the place to

726
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Speaker 4: add a balcony. President Richard Nixon covered the swimming pool

727
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Speaker 4: but added a bowling alley. No, I think that's worse

728
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: than Trump's ball room. Nixon put in a bowling alley

729
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Speaker 4: and took the swimming pool out in order to do it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't attack I'm just saying I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing they bitched about that back then because Nixon

732
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Speaker 4: was hated. You know, Nixon was actually hated a little

733
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 4: bit more than Reagan, and Reagan was despised Trump. Trump's

734
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Speaker 4: all of that simply because the level of hatred that

735
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: left has is greater than anything any venom that they

736
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: could have hit.

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Speaker 3: Pretty Nixon put it. It continues here.

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Speaker 4: Finally, President Barack Obama transformed the tennis court into a

739
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Speaker 4: basketball court.

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Speaker 3: Bomb didn't want to play tennis. He wanted to put it.

741
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Speaker 4: And why did Obama put it in a back because he

742
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: wanted to play basketball.

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Speaker 3: Trump isn't doing any.

744
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: Of this so he can go do a specific thing.

745
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Speaker 4: He believes that the White House, the home of the

746
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Speaker 4: government of the United States, should have a grand room

747
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: for this. That's his belief and he's never hidden his

748
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 4: beliefs about American greatness and standards and all.

749
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Speaker 3: Of this stuff continuing.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I'm not even gonna continue with Marcus's column

751
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 4: because he makes points that I think are fairly obvious.

752
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Speaker 4: But the fact that this triggers the Left just shows

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Speaker 4: how you're rational.

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Speaker 3: They've gotten.

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Speaker 4: Now, you could raise questions about the funding for this,

756
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: but it is privately generated, so it's not like when

757
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 4: the government is shut down, we're spending cas payer money

758
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: on this. They just don't like the fact that he's

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Speaker 4: doing it. Continuing, here's that other story.

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Speaker 3: Forever and ever and ever, the left has tried to

761
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Speaker 3: call those of us on the right Nazis.

762
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Speaker 4: They've kind of changed the word now to call us fascists.

763
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Speaker 4: I believe it's because they have gradually moved toward.

764
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Speaker 3: Essentially thinking like the Nazis.

765
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: Much of the left hates Jews every bit as much

766
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 4: as the Nazis did. Hitler was a socialist. The name

767
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: of the party was something nationalists American Socialist Party. Socialist

768
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: was in the party's name, their identification, their demand for

769
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: state control, their demand that everyone follow orders and do

770
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Speaker 4: things that the way that they want, their loathing of

771
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Speaker 4: the Jews. It's all Hitler esque, which brings ourselves to

772
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: a candidate who's running for governor of Maine. His name

773
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Speaker 4: is Graham Plattner. He's running for the governorship of Maine,

774
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Speaker 4: and he's being endorsed by Bernie Sanders. He has on

775
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Speaker 4: his arm a Nazi tattoo, and he's had it on

776
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: for years now that this story is out there. Bertie

777
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: Sanders refuses to repudiate his endorsement. The guy is an

778
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: open critic of Israel, as is Bernie Sanders, quoting from

779
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: an editorial on this in the Wall Street Journal. And

780
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: there was a publication called The Jewish Insider that broke

781
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: the story. Platner said, I am not a secret Nazi.

782
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: He confirmed that the tattoo, but said he got it

783
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: while drunk in Croatia in two thousand and seven and

784
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: didn't know what it meant for some two decades. But

785
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: on Wednesday he said he finally had it covered up

786
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: with a new image. But an acquaintance of Platner told

787
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: The Jewish Insider news side that the candidate explained the

788
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: tattoo's Nazi connection to him in a cutesy little way

789
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 4: at Capitol Hill bar in twenty twelve.

790
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Speaker 3: So, well, this new thing, I didn't know what it was.

791
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Speaker 3: Give me a break. Who does it not?

792
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Speaker 4: Especially lefties who doesn't know what Nazi symbols look like.

793
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: But is this buddy said?

794
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: In twenty twelve, he fessed up and while drinking he

795
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: told him what it meant.

796
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 3: That's thirteen years ago. He said, Oh, this is my totenkoff.

797
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what that word means. But then'

798
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: that sound good. All German words sound good, don't they

799
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: toutn Koff, problen Koff.

800
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: It just sounds like something that would be a fan

801
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: well part because of the whole Nazi thing. All German

802
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: words sound offensive because of the German anyway, this is

803
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: my totenkoff. That's German for the deathhead symbol of the

804
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: SS unit that ran the concentration camps.

805
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: I let didn't know.

806
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: The totenkov is the deathhead symbol which the SS used.

807
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: And this guy tells his friend that's my totenkov. He's

808
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: bragging that he's got in his arms something that is

809
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: a symbol of the Nazi SS. And it was the

810
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: SS that ran the concentration camps for the Holocaust occurred.

811
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Speaker 4: So this guy's coming out and saying he told me

812
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: this thirteen years ago. Also not buying Plattner's excuse is

813
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 4: his former political director. His political director has quit now

814
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: that he found out about this, who resigned last week.

815
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: Graham has an anti Semitic tattoo on his chest. He's

816
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: not an idiot, He's a military history buff.

817
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: She wrote.

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00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: We cannot be this painfully stupid, she said, referring to

819
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: her fellow Democrats The Wall Street Journal, Oh yes they can.

820
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: On Tuesday, Plattner's key supporter, Senator Bernie Sanders, tried to

821
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: duck the question. Here's Bertie said, it's easy to do

822
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: a Bernie Sanders imitation. They're all bad because all you

823
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 4: have to do is like lower your voice. She's got

824
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: that stupid, pompous they ever gonna eat boys that he has.

825
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: Ron worried about.

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Speaker 4: It's fifty thousand American mcde Unnecessarah Lea and are worried

827
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 4: about a tattoo. Suddenly Bernie Sanders says, why are you

828
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: looking a big deal about a tattoo? All the Lefteris

829
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: have ever cared is about symbolism like this. These are

830
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: the people that claim they you know, they claim they

831
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Speaker 4: were Nazis.

832
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Speaker 3: And Charlott's swell at all of this. It's the thing

833
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 3: that they've.

834
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Speaker 4: Carried on about forever and ever and ever. I actually

835
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: hope this guy stays in the race. I hope he

836
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 4: becomes the main Democratic candidate. Hope Tammy Balden and all

837
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: the others of them endorse.

838
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: Just so we know.

839
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: Again, this isn't all Trump arrangements syndrome, but broadly speaking,

840
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: they've all lost their minds, and I think that the

841
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: presence of Trump is fueled this insanity. I want to

842
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: cover a story here about a week ago, not sure

843
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: exactly the timing. On the podcast, I did a brief

844
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: segment on what I think is the crashing of the

845
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: subprime loan market. In auto loans, subprime is not credit worthy,

846
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: in other words, high interest rates loans that are made

847
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: to people who don't have very good credit. Often you

848
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: make these loans because you can repossess the car, so

849
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: you get something back, and you try not to be

850
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: upside out about it, and so on. Several companies, however, recently,

851
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: have gone bankrupt. The take that not only I'm not

852
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: unique in this, many people have the same take that

853
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: the reason they're going bankrupt isn't just because of the

854
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: economy slowing, it's because of the deportations. That a huge

855
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: segment of these loans being made to illegal immigrants. I

856
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: can tell you just from scuttle but that I've heard

857
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: that virtually all illegals who buy cars are financing them.

858
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: Very few cash buyers easy to figure out why right, Well,

859
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: if I am deported, how are they gonna got that

860
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 4: and not gonna keep paying my ky loan. When I

861
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: brought that segment up, I said, there's a stock of

862
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: the stock market that I felt was extremely overvalued. I

863
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: didn't want to mention the name of the company on

864
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 4: the air because I didn't want to suggest that somebody

865
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Speaker 4: short the stock. And I said, I think it's a very,

866
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: very stupid thing to short a stock that's going up.

867
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Speaker 4: You can lose an infinite amount of money, literally an

868
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: infinite amount of money. But it's a company that does

869
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 4: a lot of business on the low end. The stock

870
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: price is done nothing but explode over the last several years.

871
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: Finally the stock hit a crack this past week, fell

872
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: thirteen percent in one day, and it was because they

873
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: were linked to this whole problem of delinquencies in subprime loans.

874
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting that anybody short the stock. I would

875
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: never do that. It's an extremely risky thing to do.

876
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: But I do wonder about the company. It's Carvana. Carvana

877
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest car sellers in the world.

878
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: They advertise aggressively and their market base is to go

879
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: after kind of the lower the lower middle part of

880
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: the market, and if you look at their financials, they'd

881
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: carry a lot of paper and very few of their

882
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: purchase their sales are to cash buyers and so on. Again,

883
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting anybody short the stock, and maybe Carvan

884
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: is going to be just fine, but there are no

885
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 4: some analysts who are taking the pe on that stock

886
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: is eighty one and they're in an area right now

887
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: of the economy.

888
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: Thanks very and.

889
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: I think you know, the importation thing has a lot

890
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: of components to it. They were going to be meant,

891
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: if we continue to have a significant number of people

892
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 4: who are illegal deported, there are going to be ramifications

893
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: in the parts of the economy where those illegal immigrants

894
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 4: were economically active, and the car market might be one

895
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 4: of them. But certainly a company who's we met one

896
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: of the companies that went bankrupt a couple of weeks ago.

897
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: I mentioned the company's logo. Company is called Tricolor. The

898
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: company's logo was almost exact same thing as the Mexican flag.

899
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: They were not hiding who it was that they were

900
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: marketing to. Well, as many of these individuals are booted

901
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: out of the country, so much for their repayment of

902
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 4: any types of loans. It is an economic story to

903
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: keep an eye on. And finally, this the World Series

904
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: starts Friday night. I mean, I think the Dodgers are

905
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 4: going to win. But what's the point of saying that,

906
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: Because everybody thinks the Dodgers are going to win. Maybe

907
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: they will, maybe they want. The one thing they have

908
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: going against them is Toronto does home field advantage. There

909
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: is a lengthy story in the Wall Street Journal today

910
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 4: about the insane payroll of the Los Angeles Dodgers and

911
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: the story Pat Murphy was at the Bucks game and

912
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: the season opened it for the Bucks last day. You

913
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: gotta you got a larger hand than Chris Middleton got

914
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 4: the second largest head of the night. Yanni's got the

915
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: largest head of the night, but number three was Pat

916
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: Murphy sitting and the pet vers very popular. Well, there

917
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: was a thing in which Pat Murphy was pimping the

918
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 4: Dodgers when they signed Sho Shohai Atani, and it makes

919
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: its way out of the Wall Street journalists. They try

920
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 4: to draw attention to the difference between a company like

921
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: the Dodgers that spends an insane amount of money on

922
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: players at a company like the Brewers. I'm gonna read

923
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: the first you progress because it's funny. Two years ago,

924
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Dodgers spent more than one billion dollars

925
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: in the span of a couple of weeks to sign

926
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 4: Shoai Yotani and Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Yamamoto is the Asian marka

927
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: pitcher who impact pitched.

928
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: To get well.

929
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: They all shut out the Brewers. Around the same time,

930
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: the Milwaukee Brewers responded to the Dodgers largest with am

931
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: of their own that received considerable less attention. They signed.

932
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: They acquired journeyman catcher Eric Hayes for a million bucks.

933
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: One million is what whoor has got cut.

934
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: Anyway.

935
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: By the way, do you know how much money Danny

936
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: Jansen stands to make next year? The guy that the

937
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 4: Brewers picked up when they cut has twelve million. That's

938
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: an option. That option is not going to.

939
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: Be picked up.

940
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: This contrast wasn't lost on Pat Murphy, the Brewers newly

941
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 4: hired managers. This was two years ago when Patt had

942
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: just been hired, so he fired off a jokey text

943
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: message to Dodgers President of Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman, Congratulations

944
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: to your scouting and player develop making fun of them.

945
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: What great scouts here you found out, Toddy.

946
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: Congratulations to your scouting department and player development group for

947
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: turning over.

948
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: Every wreck to find these guys.

949
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: Sorry, we had to sign our backup catcher on the

950
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 4: same day to take away your shine. Now, the point

951
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: of the story is that the Dodgers have spent an

952
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: insane amount of money, and that's why they have Otania,

953
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: It's why they have a number of other players. The

954
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: caveat to that is there are other teams that spend

955
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: almost as much as the Dodgers and have not had

956
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: the same.

957
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: Successes, say the Brewers.

958
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: The problem with the Dodgers is they not only are

959
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: spending more money than everybody else, unlike a lot of

960
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: other big money teams, they're spending it wisely, and that,

961
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is why baseball needs a salary cap.

962
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: Spending a lot of money is not a guarantee of success,

963
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: but if you spend a lot of money wisely, you

964
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: are almost guaranteed to be more successful.

965
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: Than everyone else.

966
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 4: So this means people are saying that this means that

967
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: everybody should cheer against the Dodgers. The problem is Toronto

968
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: is also a top five payroll team. They're also in

969
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 4: an extremely huge market.

970
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: I think the.

971
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: Dodgers were not the best team all year, but the

972
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: best team right now. Given the fact that they knocked

973
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: out the Brewers, I would mind them seeing them not

974
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 4: go Toronto, But there is that whole issue with regard

975
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: to the payroll. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. This

976
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: is the Mark Belling Podcast, and it's time for our

977
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: weekly football preview and some point spread picks. I'm looking

978
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 4: forward for a change to the point spread picks because

979
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: I'm having a really good year. But before we get

980
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 4: to that, we're going to preview some football games this weekend.

981
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 4: I'm joined by Mike burletta of American Sports Analysts in Madison.

982
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 4: Asawins dot com is their website. Mike, good afternoon and

983
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: a good day, I guess, and tell us what's going

984
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 4: on this weekend at ASA.

985
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: Well, we had just to be upfront.

986
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: We did.

987
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: We had a poor college outing last weekend and okay,

988
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: NFL we broke about even last week and we won

989
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: a six star in an NFL and lost a six

990
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: star in college. Kind of split out in the big games.

991
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: Not one hundred percent sure what's going on this week,

992
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: and I would just visit our site tomorrow, take a look,

993
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: see what we've got. We'll have a weekend package up

994
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: in big game packages up to move.

995
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: Okay, let's start talking about college football first, and this

996
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: week I pulled out two games that are really similar.

997
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 4: They're both from the SEC. All four teams involved have

998
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: a record of six and one on the season, and

999
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 4: in the cases of I don't know two or three

1000
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: of them, they're not the kinds of teams that you

1001
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: think of as being national powers, but all four of

1002
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: them are ranked. The first game I want to talk

1003
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: about is Mississippi and Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a very good defense. Mississippi,

1004
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: since Lane Kiffin has gotten there, seems to be one

1005
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 4: notch below the very top tier of the SEC, which

1006
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: is the very top tier of college football. Mississippi has

1007
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: a very good offense. As usual, this year, they play Oklahoma,

1008
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: whose defense is very good. Your thoughts on the game.

1009
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oklahoma is a five point favorite in that game

1010
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: at home, and you kind of hit it on the head.

1011
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: It's going to come down to old. Missus offense is

1012
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: really good. They're average thirty seven points per game, but

1013
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: they haven't played a defense quite like Oklahoma. Yet the

1014
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 2: best defense Old Missus played is LSU and they scored

1015
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: twenty four points in that game. Last week, they did

1016
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: score thirty five points in a loss against Georgia, but

1017
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: only had three hundred and fifty total yards. Can they

1018
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: bounce back the way they lost last week? They were

1019
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 2: up nine in the fourth quarter and got out scored

1020
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: seventeen to zero against Georgia. You mentioned Oklahoma.

1021
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: I believe that game was at Georgia, correct, it was.

1022
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: And this game's on the road too, so they have

1023
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 4: to go from Georgia to Oklahoma, which is that's daunting,

1024
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: but that's what the SEC is, I guess is the

1025
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: Badger's going to test. That's also what the Big Ten

1026
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 4: is anyway.

1027
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: And you mentioned their defense. For people that don't follow

1028
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: it close, Oklahoma's got the best defense in the country.

1029
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: They give up two hundred and thirteen yards per game,

1030
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: they're number one in yards per play allowed, and they

1031
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: give up nine points per game. Ohio State's the only

1032
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: better defense when it comes to scoring. In seven games

1033
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: this Yearklahoma's allowed five offensive touchdowns in seven games. It's

1034
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: going to be an interesting battle to see, which you know,

1035
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: Ole miss offense as good as we think, or is

1036
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defense as good as we think? We'll see how

1037
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: it plays out, but Oklahoma is a five point favorite in.

1038
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: This Oklahoma has really transformed its program. They had the

1039
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 4: really high powered rocket offense, and then their coach went

1040
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: off to USC and they hired the defensive coordinator I

1041
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 4: believe from Clemson, and the offense at Oklahoma isn't that good,

1042
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: but he's brought in an extremely good defense. So the

1043
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 4: Oklahoma program has pulled off the feet of just completely

1044
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 4: reinventing itself and making it work.

1045
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: That's not always easy to do, but they seem to be.

1046
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: They seem to be back as I say that both

1047
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: teams are six and one, No, that's all together, that's

1048
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 4: not just the conference seems to be evenly matched.

1049
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: I wonder if the.

1050
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 4: Game is at Mississippi, if maybe Mississippi would be favored.

1051
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 4: Very similar game, although maybe more interest than given the

1052
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 4: teams involved. Zuri at Vanderbilt, I'll admit I felt for

1053
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: years Vanderbilt needed to drop out of the SEC. To me,

1054
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 4: they're like Northwestern is in the Big Ten. It's very

1055
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 4: hard for a program like that to compete against its

1056
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 4: private school high academic school doesn't have as huge an

1057
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 4: alumni base because the enrollment isn't as large, and they've

1058
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: been overmatched in most sports forever and ever and ever,

1059
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: and in football they were almost always finishing last. Somehow

1060
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: the current coach has turned that program around. They're very good.

1061
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: If you would have told me five years ago that

1062
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt would be ranked tenth in the country at any point,

1063
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: I'd say it havef to be forty years down the

1064
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: line where something would have to be have to be

1065
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: incredibly different. But they're six and one. They ranked tenth

1066
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: in the country. They play Missouri, a team that joined

1067
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: the SEC a few years ago, I think, also a

1068
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: team that you think would be up against it when

1069
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 4: they were in the Big I guess the Big Eight

1070
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: at the time, they weren't that good, but they're now

1071
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: a dominant power in the SEC as well.

1072
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: Two teams that have sort of emerged.

1073
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 4: And there's still a lot of season left and they

1074
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 4: can take losses, but both teams appear to be very,

1075
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: very good, and I think in both instances you have

1076
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: to credit coaches who've come in and excelled at programs.

1077
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: Ritzman hard to excel, especially Vanderbilt where there's just no

1078
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: history of it at all.

1079
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean zero history. They showed some signs last year.

1080
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: Mark they had some.

1081
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: They did, they did, they were It never happens all

1082
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 4: at once, but they showed improvement last year and now

1083
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: this year they're.

1084
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 3: The top ten.

1085
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. And to put in perspective their situation. So they

1086
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: were favored last week against LSU by one and a half,

1087
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: they won the game by seven. It's the first time

1088
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: they were favored against LSU since nineteen forty eight, my goodness,

1089
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: and they won that game. And to put it even

1090
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: in more perspectives, so they're favored this week again. They're

1091
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 2: faired by two and a half against Missouri. Going into

1092
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: last week, the last time Vanderbilt was favored in an

1093
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: SEC game was twenty eighteen. They had gone fifty one

1094
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: straight conference games as an underdog until last week. And

1095
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: now they're favored and back to back weeks. How do

1096
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: they handle the expectations now they have the target on

1097
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: their back. They're favored back to back weeks. ESPN game days.

1098
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: There there's more distractions. They are in the better situation.

1099
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: All that being said, here, they had a bye week

1100
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: entering last week So now they're home. Back to back

1101
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: after a bye, Missouri played on the road at Auburn

1102
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: won in double overtime twenty three to seventeen. A week earlier,

1103
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: another game down to the wire for Missouri against Alabama.

1104
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: They lost by three. They're on the road again. Now

1105
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: it's a tough spot for Missouri. But we'll see how

1106
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: Vandy handles expectations now. They're in a different role now

1107
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: this weekend, I'll tell a lot about.

1108
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 3: The they are.

1109
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure. I really am not sure who

1110
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: the better team is. Vanderbilt's favored, but I think that's

1111
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 4: because they're at home again.

1112
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: Just like the other game.

1113
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: I think if this game was at Missouri, Missouri would

1114
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: probably be favored.

1115
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: Let's turn our attention to the NFL.

1116
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: The Packers play the Steelers, and the obvious storyline is

1117
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers face is Green Bay, but there are other

1118
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 4: ones as well. I mean, the Steelers are always pretty good,

1119
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: but they're coming off of a terrible loss. I mean,

1120
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 4: for people who think that the Packers were unconvincing when

1121
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: they played Cincinnati, Pittsburgh had a very very difficult time

1122
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: and effect.

1123
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: Lost to them as well.

1124
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: The Steelers' offense both sides of the ball with Pittsburgh

1125
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: seems to be inconsistent. My problem with the Packers is, well,

1126
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: they're for to one and one, which is a first place.

1127
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: Record in the eye test.

1128
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 4: They still ever since the first two weeks of the season,

1129
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: since we've gotten past those two games, they haven't looked

1130
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: to me to be that impressive, even though they keep

1131
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: winning the games at Pittsburgh, the Packers are favorite on

1132
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 4: the road by about three. Tough game to figure out.

1133
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on it?

1134
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the Packers just the eye test. I

1135
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: agree with you. After the first two games Detroit Washington,

1136
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: you know, most people thought, well, that looks the Packers

1137
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: look like maybe the best team in the NFL, and

1138
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: just spread wise, they've been overvalued. They haven't covered since

1139
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: those first two games. They're zero and four against the

1140
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: spread their last four games, losing by about six points

1141
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: a game to the spread. Pittsburgh is not as good

1142
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: as their record right now. They're four and two. They

1143
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: are ranked twenty fifth or lower in both total offense

1144
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: and total defense. They're getting out gained by almost eighty

1145
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: yards per game. They found a way to be four

1146
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: and two. The one thing couple spread things here, Mark

1147
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: the one thing about Pittsburgh. They're one of the best

1148
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: home underdog teams period in the NFL, and this has

1149
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: been for a long time. They're four and one against

1150
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: the spread since the start of last season as a

1151
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: home underdog. If you go back to two thousand, they're

1152
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: twenty five and nine against the spread as a home underdog.

1153
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay as a road favorite since twenty twenty two

1154
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: is four and ten against the spread, and Jordan loves

1155
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: since he started as a road favorite two and seven

1156
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: against the spread. It's a better situation for Pittsburgh, right.

1157
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: They have ten days off after their dad loss to Cincinnati.

1158
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: Green Bay had the travel problems last week, got to

1159
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: Arizona late, could have lost that game. Now they're on

1160
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: the road again. Yeah, I think it's a dangerous game

1161
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: for the Packers, and I don't think the Pittsburgh is

1162
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 2: all that good. I think the situation favores Pittsburgh here.

1163
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: The other game that I pulled out this week is

1164
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: I just think it's a really interesting game. It's Dallas

1165
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 4: and Denver. The coach I think might have, especially when healthy,

1166
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: the best offense in the NFL, and the worst defense.

1167
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 4: Denver has a very very good defense, and their offense

1168
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: last week was atrocious the first three quarters, and then

1169
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 4: on the fourth quarter they scored thirty three points in

1170
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: one quarter to come from behind, one of the biggest

1171
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: comebacks in NFL history. So curious team, But clearly I

1172
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 4: think you can say that the strength of Denver is

1173
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: their defense, and the strength of the Cowboys is the offense.

1174
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: And Dallas's defense is their incredible weakness. Usually, when a

1175
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: good offense faces a good defense, you have to side

1176
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 4: with the defense.

1177
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 3: What do you think about this game?

1178
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you hit it right on the head

1179
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: with Dall they ranked number one in total offense and

1180
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 2: last in total defense. That's just the number of straight numbers.

1181
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: They're first into offense, last in defense.

1182
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: I have to also think that based on just six

1183
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 4: weeks of this, the Packers got the better of the

1184
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: Parsons trade. Now, admittedly the Packers gave up draft choices,

1185
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 4: then you have to valuate over the long haul, but

1186
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 4: Dallas clearly needs Parsons, and I think Green Bay would

1187
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: be lost without him. I mean, it wasn't a straight

1188
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 4: up trade of Parsons for Kenny Clark, but at least

1189
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: in terms of this year on the field. It is

1190
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: the other parts. The draft choices are in the future.

1191
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: But Dallas's defense having lost Parsons is just they give

1192
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: up a ton of points. But I'm just I make

1193
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: their offense they have just they're nothing but all pro

1194
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: receivers and they're helping Dak Prescott to get into the

1195
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: MVP talk just because he's got such great receivers out there,

1196
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: and not a bad running game either.

1197
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, they're games. This year. Dallas games are averaging

1198
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: sixty one total points per game, which is highest in

1199
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. They're averaging seven touchdowns combined per game, number

1200
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: one in the NFL, and they're averaging almost eight hundred

1201
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: totally yards per game, most in the NFL. Those are

1202
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: just Dallas games. The Denver game we talked about last week,

1203
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: Denver scored twenty five points in the last five minutes

1204
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: and twenty seconds of the game last week to win,

1205
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: come back and win. They only led the game for

1206
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: a minute the whole game and they ended up winning

1207
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty two. To put that in perspective,

1208
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: and you may have heard this, this is not my

1209
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: stat I found this stat over the last sixteen hundred

1210
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: games where team in the NFL led by eighteen or

1211
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: more with less than sixteen with less than six minutes

1212
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: to go, those teams were sixteen hundred and zero.

1213
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's surprise.

1214
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: Now in college, I know that's not the case because

1215
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 4: there's been lots of wild comebacks in college.

1216
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1217
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that he didn't say thirty eight point lead.

1218
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 4: I think you said it was an eighteen point.

1219
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 2: Lead, eighteen or more with less than six minutes to

1220
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: go in the game. Those teams have won sixteen hundred.

1221
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: And the key is it's not seventeen, it's eighteen, meaning

1222
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 4: it's a three. It's three scores that you have to

1223
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 4: come up with, and three scores and probably three touchdowns

1224
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: unless you get a two point conversion or something in there.

1225
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 4: So eighteen becomes a hard number just in terms of

1226
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 4: having the time available. It requires, well, it requires two things.

1227
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 4: It requires the other team to play a great game

1228
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: to that point, to be une by as much as

1229
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 4: they were, and then a total meltdown. And if any

1230
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 4: team was capable of that, it's been the Giants who've

1231
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 4: been pulling this for the last two or three years.

1232
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. This is gonna be a great game, Dad,

1233
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: Like you said, Denver's offense Dallas defense the total open

1234
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: forty seven and a half and moved up to fifty

1235
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: and a half, So that might be that might be

1236
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: telling people are thinking, people that know what they're doing

1237
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a high scoring game. And

1238
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.

1239
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think anybody can stop Dallas, but

1240
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that they're going to win the game,

1241
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 4: which certainly implies a high scoring game. Okay, time to

1242
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: get to some pointspread selections. Mike has made a tremendous

1243
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: recovery after his disgraceful startup zero to five. You've done

1244
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 4: everything that you can since then to make that record better,

1245
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 4: which is win three games in a row.

1246
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: In fact, looking at our.

1247
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 4: Picks last week, my three favorite games pro in college

1248
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: for combined for the three that were picked on this show.

1249
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 4: My own pick obviously was my favorite, Mike's pick was

1250
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: a second, and Paul's pick, which lost, was my third

1251
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 4: favorite pick. Anyway, recapping the picks from all of us,

1252
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: I took the Bears to beat the Saints by more

1253
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 4: than four and a half, and they won by twelve,

1254
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 4: twenty six to fourteen, Mike went against Wisconsin, laying twenty

1255
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 4: five and a half Ohio State. Wisconsin's defense played very

1256
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 4: good and their offense again was non existent. Ohio State

1257
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: won thirty four to nothing, So that was a win.

1258
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: And Paul took the Bikings one and a half point

1259
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: underdog over the Eagles, and that was a loser.

1260
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: On twenty two to twenty eight.

1261
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: So Paul's at two and six, Mics improving up to

1262
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: three and five, and I'm sail.

1263
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: Along at six and two. But all of that is history.

1264
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 4: What have you done for me lately? Well, we're gonna

1265
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: find out right now, Paul, you get to go first.

1266
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 4: Paul says he can't pick his nose. I, as I said,

1267
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: I kind of liked I did like your pick last week,

1268
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 4: but it was mostly I don't know what to think

1269
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: of Philadelphia right now. I just one week they look terrible,

1270
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 4: one week they look good, very inconsistent. The Bikings I

1271
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: just think are an average team with average quarterbacks. But

1272
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: Philadelphia surprised me and bouncing back in there. Anyway, what

1273
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 4: do you want to go with, Paul? You're going to

1274
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 4: go to a college game. You were just see that

1275
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: you're in just desperate straits right now, you're giving up

1276
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: on the NFL, that you're going to college. He's going

1277
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 4: to go to George Case stands around and go to

1278
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 4: the opposite All right, what game were you asking about?

1279
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 4: Wisconsin and Oregon? The game is at Oregon, Wisconsin completing

1280
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: this brutal schedule streak that they've been in. He wants

1281
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: the over under in the Wisconsin Oregon game.

1282
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 3: Oh and the point spread.

1283
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: Current point spread is thirty three and a half Oregon,

1284
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: and the total is forty three and a half. You've

1285
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: got one of those situations in which a big spread

1286
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: and a low total, meaning the odds makers think that

1287
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: the underdog isn't going to score much. And it's not

1288
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: surprising Wisconsin is not sword in two games in a row.

1289
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 4: Those are the lines, though, forty three and a half

1290
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 4: and thirty one and a half. Thirty one and a

1291
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 4: half for the point spread and the total.

1292
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: Let me go check it again. Now you got me

1293
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: mixed up.

1294
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 4: I think it was forty three and a half, but

1295
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I'm correct.

1296
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 3: Paul says, he knows what I've It is forty three

1297
01:08:53,880 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: and a half. Portland. He's saying Portland. You know, so Littois,

1298
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 3: you mean Oregon Portland.

1299
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 4: First of all, Portland is a city, it's not the

1300
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: name of Well, there is a university called Portland, but

1301
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 4: I think they only play basketball. Secondly, the University of

1302
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 4: Oregon is not in Portland. It's it's in kind of

1303
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 4: like a suburb. It's in the metro area. I believe

1304
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 4: is you're taking Oregon, is that what you're saying, that's

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01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 4: one will be the one that you're probably right there.

1306
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 4: So you can't even spit out your pick other than

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01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 4: Wisconsin can't score. Is there any insight you want to

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01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 4: bring to us on this? They are ranked sixth in

1309
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,480
Speaker 4: the country. Their only loss is to another really interesting team, Indiana,

1310
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 4: who beat them.

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01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 3: Indiana is just.

1312
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of I talked about Vanderbilt. Indiana

1313
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: is the other just shocking team about how good they are.

1314
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 4: That was their one loss. You're right, Pauls's the players

1315
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 4: look like they may have given up. I actually thought

1316
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: they'd give up against Ohio State, and they didn't. I

1317
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 4: thought they as hard as they could, especially on defense,

1318
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 4: and it still still didn't do any good. So that's

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 4: Paul's pick before we get a reaction from Mike on

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: that game. It's my game as well, and I have

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01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: the exact same pick. I'm taking Oregon. There are four

1322
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 4: games that I like this weekend and two that I

1323
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 4: like almost equally, and I'm gonna mention when I'm not

1324
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 4: taking even though it just there's a problem with the points.

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: Spread on it.

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01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 4: I really think Atlanta is gonna bomb Miami and this

1327
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 4: is going to be the week that McDaniel gets fired

1328
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 4: as the coach of the Dolphins. The problem that I

1329
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 4: have is that the spread is seven and a half

1330
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 4: and not seven. I hate three and a half and

1331
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 4: I hate seven and a half. I actually think Atlanta

1332
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,959
Speaker 4: can win the game buy better than two touchdowns. Miami

1333
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: is an absolute mess. You talk about a team that's

1334
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: quit their best player. Tyreek Hill is out forever. The

1335
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 4: quarterback is banged up and not playing very well, the

1336
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 4: players are tired of the weirdo coach. And Atlanta is

1337
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 4: one of the best two or three defenses in the league.

1338
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: They're only three and three, but their defense is really good.

1339
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 4: But I'm not taking that. I'm just going to go

1340
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 4: back to the Badger game and just use basic logic here.

1341
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 4: I think you have another week in which Wisconsin, with

1342
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: no matter who the quarterback is going to be, if

1343
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 4: it's going to be the third string of the second stringer,

1344
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 4: they've shown no ability to score whatsoever. Oregon's offense is better,

1345
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 4: I think than the Ohio State offense that Wisconsin played

1346
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: last week. Last week, Wisconsin was at least at home

1347
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: in Madison. Oregon is at home here. Oregon has a

1348
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 4: bye next week, so they have nothing to leave on

1349
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: the table here. And I just think that Wisconsin has

1350
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 4: gone through this grinder of playing Iowa and Ohio State

1351
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 4: to extremely physical teams, and they were crushed by both

1352
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 4: of them. I think that the team, even if it

1353
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 4: hasn't mentally quit, has physically just beaten down. And I

1354
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 4: think that they're going to have no answers for Oregon,

1355
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 4: and I fear that it's going to be ugly. It's

1356
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 4: more points than you did against Ohio State, but the

1357
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 4: game is at Oregon and Wisconsin is another week beaten up.

1358
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 4: Wisconsin sustained quite a few injuries last week, with players

1359
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: nicked all over the place. I don't know how they

1360
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 4: keep it within that line. I would actually go over

1361
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 4: the total because I think Oregon's going to score more

1362
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: than forty four points because the Wisconsin defense has played valiantly,

1363
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 4: but they're beaten up and they have to spend the

1364
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 4: entire game on the field because the offense can't move

1365
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 4: the ball at all. So I'm going to go and

1366
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 4: kind of jump where I normally come in and pick,

1367
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: because I'm reiterating Paul's pick.

1368
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 3: So rather than well, yeah, has it, Paul and I

1369
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: are on Portland.

1370
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: Actually that's a bad team to be on right now,

1371
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 4: given the fact that the Portland basketball team's coach has

1372
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 4: been charged by the FBI and in a gambling investigation.

1373
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's go.

1374
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 4: Let's get a quick reaction from Mike on that game.

1375
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: Unless Mike Cook went against Wisconsin himself last week, that's

1376
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 4: not going to be your pick this week, is it.

1377
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But I don't disagree with you guys.

1378
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they haven't scored the last two weeks. Oregon

1379
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: as good as their offenses, they have a.

1380
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 4: Top five defense defense actually better, and you know their

1381
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 4: coach is a defensive coach, Lanning.

1382
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 3: I think their defense is better than their offense.

1383
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 4: There with Ohio States defense, and I think that the

1384
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 4: offense is actually I just the one pause I have

1385
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 4: is they show showed a chink in the armor and

1386
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 4: losing at home to Indiana and their win over Penn

1387
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: State is no longer as impressive as it seemed to be.

1388
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: I just think that Wisconsin's whipped that there and it's

1389
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: a spectacularly good spot for Oregon back home with the

1390
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: buy next.

1391
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: And they're coming off of.

1392
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 4: They killed Rutgers last week, and Rutgers for Rutgers is

1393
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: better than Wisconsin, I think, And they killed them last

1394
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: week and they killed them at Rutgers a West Coast

1395
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 4: team going to the East. So they have everything going

1396
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 4: for them in this situation, and wisconstant, is everything going

1397
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: against it. I just think there's a distract shit with

1398
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 4: is the ax gonna come down? And fickle all of that. Anyway,

1399
01:13:59,400 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 4: let's get a.

1400
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 3: Pick, Mike. Where are we going?

1401
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, two games? I need the spreads for first one,

1402
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: I need a total on the Mississippi Oklahoma game that

1403
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: we just talked about. Fifty is the number one. Fifty.

1404
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that over under on that game is fifty four

1405
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 4: and a half.

1406
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: And then let's look at this the just the spread

1407
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: on the Texas and Mississippi State games one seventy five,

1408
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: one seventy.

1409
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 4: Six, seven. Texas is only favored by seven. I think

1410
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: the most disappointing offense college football is Texas's offense. And

1411
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 4: you can't even put it all. I think on Arch Manning,

1412
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 4: he's he hasn't looked terrible. I just think that just

1413
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: surprising from being a member of the Manning family. He

1414
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 4: takes forever to make a decision, the kind of the

1415
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 4: exact opposite of what Peyton Manning at least was known for.

1416
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 4: Arch Manning will sit in the pocket and he he's

1417
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 4: aversed a guessing, he's been drilled into him, don't commit turnovers.

1418
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 4: But he waits too long with the ball. And but

1419
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 4: Mississippi sty it's not very good either. So Texas on

1420
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 4: the road favored by seven.

1421
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: Mike, let's go at the first game. You talked, I'm

1422
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: going under fifty four and a half and they'll miss

1423
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: Oklahoma game.

1424
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we discussed that it's a great defense against

1425
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 4: a very very good offense in Mississippi, and you're leaning

1426
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 4: on the side of the defense by saying under the total.

1427
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: Give me your reasons why.

1428
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we talked about a lot of it. A

1429
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: couple of things I didn't touch on. If you look

1430
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: at Mississippi's offense, again, they averaged thirty seven points per game,

1431
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 2: but their average defensive team they've faced bring seventy third

1432
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: in total defense. They played three top fifty defenses this

1433
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: year and scored twenty four against LSU, twenty four against

1434
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: Washington State, who is like forty ninth in total defense,

1435
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 2: and again last week they scored thirty five against Georgia,

1436
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: but only had three hundred and fifty total yards. That

1437
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: normally quits the low twenties scoring wise, so they got

1438
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: a little lucky to get to that point. And you

1439
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,839
Speaker 2: mentioned it. We didn't talk about much about the offense

1440
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma, but they've been held to twenty six points

1441
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: or less and four of their six FBS games, and

1442
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: the two they did they top twenty six was against

1443
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 2: Kent who's one hundred and thirty third in total defense.

1444
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 2: In Temple was seventy fifth in total defense, so they

1445
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: don't have a real explosive offense. I think this is

1446
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: gonna be a more of a grinder game. Last year

1447
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: they played in the final scores twenty six to fourteen,

1448
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: and that's when Ole Miss had a phenomenal offense with

1449
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark Again, it was twenty six to fourteen in

1450
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: that game. I think this goes well under fifty four

1451
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: and a half.

1452
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: Paul made it error, which I'll point out.

1453
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 4: There's no reason to point it out other than I

1454
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 4: enjoy playing O it's Mississippi, not Mississippi State that they're

1455
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 4: they're playing anyway. Okay, that's Mike's pick, and it's an

1456
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: interesting one. He says the under in Oklahoma and Mississippi

1457
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 4: under fifty four and a half. Paul and I both

1458
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 4: think Oregon beats Wisconsin by thirty two or more. We'll

1459
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 4: be back with another football preview at the end of

1460
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 4: next Thursday's podcast, and that's it for the weekend.

1461
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 3: Talk to you on Monday.

1462
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,719
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