1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Just dreadful Monday night football game. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: I know you had a function last night, So did 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: you even even watch any of the of the money. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 3: I watched some of it. I didn't. 5 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 4: I didn't catch all of it, but I'm aware of 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 4: the calamity that was. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Hurts. 8 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 4: Yes, my family knows I have this. I really like 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts the person that this is very unique for me. 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 4: I really like him. He was an elite eleven counselor. 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 4: When my kid was down there, my kid raised about 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 4: the person he is. At all accounts, he's had very little, 13 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: uh scathing in that regard. But I cannot stand the quarterback. 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 4: It is just it's like watching a high school quarterback. 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: You watch their offense and it is so scaled down. 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: I mean, it looks like a high school offense. You know, 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: it's either a go route up the sideline or it's 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: you know, something in the flat. You know, there's very 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: little complexity to the reads. And and while he's an 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: athletic quarterback, just think think about this. If Dalen Hurts 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 4: had to win a job in the NFL as a halfback, Okay, 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 4: got me. I just want to imagine take off his number, 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 4: what's his number two. I'm terrible numbers, Jackson, what numbers? 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 4: Jalen hurts, I. 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: Am the worst person with numbers. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: So one's question, whatever he is, So now make him 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: number thirty one or number thirty one, number one? 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: All right? 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: So so now he's number thirty one. He's trying to 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: be a running back. Do you think how how long 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 4: do you think he would last in an NFL camp 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: if he was trying to make the team as a runner. 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh, he's not fast and he doesn't have moves, So 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I'd say a day he'd be in the first cuts. 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the first cut mini camps. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: Yes, right, So he's not a great runner by running 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: back stand In fact, he's a very by running back standards, 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: he would be he'd be horrible. So but you watch 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: him run and it's like. 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: Is it entertaining? No? 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: I mean he's I guess he's strong, but you know 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: he's not terribly elusive. You're not done to that great burst. 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: And so I don't know when you pair that with 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: a high school offense, I don't know his quarterbacking just 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: is it sets football back a long way? 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: It does? 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: And those I'm just watching those two teams and I 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: felt the same way during Thanksgiving weekend, and all those 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: games that we all watched, right the three on Thursday, 50 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: the one on Friday, and then the one game last time, 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: they were almost all of them, maybe all of them 52 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: included teams that were seen as either potential deep playoff 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: run teams or teams like the Ravens and even the 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Bengals with Joe Burrow and the Chiefs, teams that we thought, okay, sneaky, 55 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: sneaky teams. Be careful, right, be careful. These teams could 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: come and bite you and get into and get into 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs. So there was really no dogs playing in 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: any of these games. And yet the gap I see 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: between the Seahawks and the Rams, and to point, and 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: I agree with him that you can probably throw the 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: Packers in that. The gap that I'm seeing now between 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: those three teams and the rest of the league seems 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: to be growing exponentially. Because I remember saying on the 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: air a month ago, it's like, man, who's a who's 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: the best team in the NFL. I don't know who 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: are the top five teams. I don't know who's the 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: top ten teams. There could be thirteen teams that play 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl this year, like we were just 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: all talking about this great parody. But what I've seen 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: over the last month is the parody's starting to thin 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: out now and like we're separating the week from the chaff. 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Are you seeing that as well in the NFL the 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: last month? 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: Well, I just think that as you go along, obviously, 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: injuries take take their toll in a big way for 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: some teams. And you just expect a team that has 77 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: back in September, if they had a one in six 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: chance based on how good they were, they had a 79 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: one and six chance of just having a turd. Well, 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: four or five games into it, there's a good chance 81 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: you haven't seen that yet. 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 3: But after you've played twelve. 83 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: Fourteen games, you know, you know the Rams at Carolina, 84 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: Who on earth could have ever foreseen that? 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: Right? And you know there. 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 4: But now, what is typical is that there's a the 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 4: hottest team in September, Buffalo, the Colts right, and then 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: they right, and then that their wave runs out, and 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: then somebody else rides a wave and h and then 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: you're you're looking at those teams in October and and 91 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: and so I think it's very unusual for a team 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: to be good enough to be thought of as at 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: the peak for four straight months. 94 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: We rarely see that, and I mean there's there's occasionally 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: those years where you got a team that goes you know, 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: old school sixteen games, team that goes fourteen and two, 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: and we're like, okay, this is clearly. We've had years 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, greatest on turf. You know, yeah, 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: they're the best team in the NFL all season long. 101 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: But to your point and yeah, but but you're right, 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: especially recently, there's been even the Chiefs dynasty quote unquote 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: over the last five or six years, they've had seasons 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 2: where they were like seven and five after twelve games, 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: three and three after six games. There's been times where 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: they've had to you know, peak at the right time. 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: And I think about that's probably we're gonna have to 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: see this year, is we have to see a team 109 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: peak at the right time to win the Super Bowl. 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: How about Tampa Bay? 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, great in September. 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: And Baker Mayfield was the odds on for the MVP. 113 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: How far has he fallen off of that? So we've 114 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 4: just we've seen this. I think this is typical. I 115 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: actually think it's very typical what we're seeing now. You 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: just don't know which teams are going to be the teams. 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: But but you know the older teams. The Commanders are 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: the oldest team in the NFL. Not surprising that they've 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: fallen off. Detroit has made and some coaching attrition and 120 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: and so you know, the younger teams. 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: Denver. 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: Hell, I put I bet one team on the over 123 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: this season back prior to the season. One team Denver, 124 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: and it was Denver. And because a Sean Payton and 125 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: a second year quarterback just no the defense, the defense awesome, 126 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: that they had like a treacherous pass rush that nobody 127 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: was talking about. And and so actually Softy owes me 128 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: money because he was the one he was my book. 129 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: On that. 130 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: But but but yeah, you know, I just think that 131 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: the young teams, Uh now, the Raiders are surprise. 132 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 2: Massive surprise to me. That's really the biggest negative surprise 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: of the year for me. 134 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I thought they win. I thought they'd win eight games. 135 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: I thought they'd be I thought they would be competitive, 136 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: they would play Pete Carroll competitive football. Every game would 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: be within six points, and they'd win eight and they'd 138 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: lose nine. I mean That's how I thought the rais. 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: They've just been dreadful. I don't understand why. I mean, 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: ginos are one reason, but not the only reason. 141 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 4: No, No, they their offensive line is very poor, terrible. Yeah, 142 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: and I think their defense, other than their left hand 143 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: is is just kind of average. 144 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: So but they were thought to be better, no question. 145 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: And you know I'm looking now. I kind of tiered these. 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: I put kind of three tiers together of teams that 147 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: I all thought, Okay, if I tilted my head right 148 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: and all things go right for this team, I could 149 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: see these teams participating in the Super Bowl. I mean 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Tier one's the favorites, and I've just got I've only 151 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: got three, and they're all from the NFC, LA, Seattle, 152 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: and Green Bay in that order, and that order could 153 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: change on a week by week basis. The next tier, 154 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: like the contenders. Somebody's got to go out of the AFC. 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: I still think Buffalo's better. 156 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: Than New England. 157 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that football game this Sunday. That 158 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: is going to be the one that I watch most intently, 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: other than obviously the Seahawks game. But the non Seahawk 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: game I'm watching ten is Buffalo New England, then the 161 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos that you spoke of, and Detroit. I kind 162 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: of have those on that like contenders list, and then 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: tier three Chicago, San Francisco. I think Houston is really 164 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: intriguing because if you just wanted to make a list 165 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: of that, you tell me the teams have been the 166 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: best teams in the NFL the last two months. 167 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Houston has to be on that list absolutely, so. 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: Their defense is arguably the best. I mean, if the 169 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: Seahawks aren't the best defense, then Houston the then Houston 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: right there in Denver. Yeah, but I think I think Houston, 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: given that their offense has played poorly and you know 172 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: they they're missing their quarterback, I think what Houston has 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: done has been immensely uh impressive. Is there any you know, 174 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: go ahead, you know you mentioned green Bay and green 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: Bay is interesting to me. You know, they make the 176 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: move for Parsons obviously feeling like okay, this is go time, 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: and they feel like they have the other parts. And 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: by the way they're they are the youngest team in 179 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: the NFL at least going into the season. I know 180 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: the Shows are very young, and whether uh, I know 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: they're in the top five and somebody I heard say 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: they're the second youngest. But but getting back to Green Bay, 183 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: I have looked at Jordan Love and he's kind of 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 4: intrigued me. Sometimes he hasn't really answered the bell in 185 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: the clutch, and sometimes he has. He's kind of been 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 4: really up and down. Sometimes he just he's incredible. But 187 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: he has a style of quarterbacking that's very unique. He 188 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: does not have a strong arm, but nor did Joe Montana, 189 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: nor Steve young so in Green Bay where Aaron Rodgers 190 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: and Brett Farv had these just absolute hoses exactly, you know, 191 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: but you got to spin the ball in win for sure. 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: And and Jordan lev does have a tight spiral, but 193 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: he does not have great velocity. And he has a 194 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: way of quarterback And I've seen it enough that now 195 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 4: I'm bringing it to the airwaves. If you watched a 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: lot of Packers, you'll know what I'm talking about. He 197 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: has a way of in the face of pressure, he 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: will drift back and kind of throw off his back 199 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: foot and kind of lob the ball out deep down 200 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: the field. And he puts a lot of touch on 201 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: the ball. But mann does he have accuracy. And one 202 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: of the things he had to touchdown. The other night, 203 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: where the post route is taking at a certain angle 204 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: the receivers on the left, he goes down, he runs. 205 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: Let's say he's running right down the middle of the goalpost. 206 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: But what what you and I coached high school quarterbacks 207 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: and you're taught it's not terribly intuitive, but you want 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: to flatten the receiver so that his angle is going high. 209 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 4: Let's say on an analog clock, he's going at one o'clock. 210 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: Got me yep, from the middle of a clock, So 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: he's at that angle. The cornerback is going to mirror 212 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: that angle. He has to because he's covering it. So 213 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: both guys are going at one o'clock. But what Jordan 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: Love will do is he'll throw it at two o'clock, 215 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: so that now when the receiver looks up, he can 216 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: the ball is flattening. But there's what we call a 217 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: bubble separation where the corner takes Neurologically, he's gonna be 218 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: just a little bit later to react right then he's 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: got a flatten as well, but that little split second 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: is enough to get the separation. Jordan Love has this ability. 221 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: What's the takeaway? He can backpedal and just kind of 222 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: lob it up, but he lobs it into an area 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: and man and man, you don't have to worry about 224 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: somebody falling off, so you can almost lob it as 225 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: high as you want. But he just kind of lobs 226 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: it out there. But he leads the guy. He makes 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: the receiver go to the right place at the right angle. 228 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: And so so. 229 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 4: I'm up and down with him as to whether or 230 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: not he's, you know, truly a super Bowl winning quarterback. 231 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: He's got a great team around him. He's got a 232 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: young team around him. That's why they went all in 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: on Mike Parsons. But yes, they're dangerous there. Their ceiling 234 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: is exceedingly high. 235 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: No question. 236 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: And you know, another thing, and we'll take a quick 237 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: time out and talk about this when we come back. 238 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: Another thing we saw last night was and Jackson I 239 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit before you or after 240 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: you left the show, yesterday was the end of a dynasty. 241 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: I think that Charger win last night brought the official 242 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: end to the Chiefs dynasty. 243 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about. 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Charger chat. 245 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chargers win last night. Oh, Chiefs needed the 246 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Chargers to lose last night. They are three full games 247 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,119 Speaker 2: behind the Chargers. We'll talk about is there a dynasty 248 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: out there to fill the void? We'll talk about that 249 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: next on ninety three point three KJRFF. 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: From the R and R. 251 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softy and Dick 252 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 5: on your Home for the Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth 253 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 5: Man Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 254 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Cracking Ticket Tuesday. 255 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: That sounds fun, So we gave away our three o'clock 256 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: seats to Mike Shaw. 257 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Beautiful. December twenty eighth is the game. 258 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Against Philadelphia against the Flyers. All right, very good, So 259 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: congratulations to Mike. Our next winner will come up in 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour. 261 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: Beautiful, Beautiful. 262 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: Sabdian dig without the soft one. He'll be back tomorrow. 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: I saw him at the at the Huskies today. We 264 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: got a chance to talk to some of the coaches. 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: You'll hear my conversation with Ryan Walters a little bit 266 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: later on. 267 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: In the show. 268 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Today we'll be doing the pre half and post for 269 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: the l Able. 270 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: A lot of Husky talk a little bit later on. 271 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: The show, but I want to keep rolling with this 272 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: NFL topic. We were talking about some of the great 273 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: teams in the league, Hugh and kind of the gap 274 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: between the elite and the not quite elite. 275 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: And then the dynasty question comes up. 276 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I took a look at this 277 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: today and I went through all the Super Bowls and really, 278 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: with very few exceptions, there has been a dining almost 279 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: the entirety of the Super Bowl era. You started with 280 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Green Bay and Lombardi, Miami with Shula, Pittsburgh with Noel, 281 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: San Francisco with Wallston, Seaford, Dallas with Johnson and Switzer. 282 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: Denver then wins two in a row, not really a dynasty, 283 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: but Denver did win two in a row. And then 284 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: you've got two separate New England eras. You've got the 285 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: Young Brady era, and then you've got the Old Brady era, 286 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: and then you've got the Chiefs. You mean, the only 287 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: runs of actual parody in the league where you didn't 288 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: have dynasty. The only time you didn't have it was 289 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: really with nineteen ninety seven two thousand and three, although 290 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: you did have the two Denver titles in there. But 291 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: I don't consider Denver a dynasty because they didn't go 292 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: to any other Super Bowls. And then the era when 293 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: the Hawks went to three Super Bowls. Two thousand and 294 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: five to twenty fourteen season, Hawks go to three title games, 295 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: win one. Patriots made three title games, but nobody won 296 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: multiple So there really was isn't any dynasty during that time, 297 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: and so I think most of us think, well, dynasties 298 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: kind of come. 299 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: And go, and they don't. 300 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: They're not really all that prevalent, when the fact of 301 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: the matter is, it's far more prevalent, Hugh to have 302 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: a dynasty in the NFL than it is not to 303 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: have a dynasty in the NFL. So that leads me 304 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: to the question, Okay, if the Chiefs are done, which 305 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: I think we all believe now that they are, that 306 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: is a broken football team. 307 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? 308 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: What teams are bubbling at the surface to potentially be 309 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: the team of the second half of this decade. 310 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: Well, the team that really is intriguing to me in 311 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: that regard is the Eagles, because setting aside my comments 312 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: about Hurts, what's the rest of their team. 313 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: Let's just go back a year ago. 314 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: They were PFF number one offensive line in football, and 315 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: that's after Kelsey had retired. They had Saquon Barkley. They 316 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: were PFF's number one tandem of receivers Smith with Brown 317 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: yees yeah right, Devontae. 318 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 319 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: Defensively, they were they had the best defensive line, so 320 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: they had both the best defensive line and the best 321 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: offensive line. And their secondary had been week the year before, 322 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: and in twenty twenty three they went first round draft 323 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: pick and second round draft pick Cooper Dezine and whoever 324 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: else the corner was. So they like they instantly upgraded 325 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: their their secondary. And then you know, when they thought 326 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: they had a little pass rush issue, they give a 327 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: third round pick to uh, who's a kid from Miami 328 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: from UCLA number fifteen defensive end. Whatever they at the 329 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: trade deadline, they use a third round draft pick. Maybe 330 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: you can help me, Jackson. And so this Howie Rose 331 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: Mayland Phillips Sjalen Phillips. So you look at them and say, 332 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: separate the quarterback for a moment, how's the rest of 333 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: the team on pick? Less than six months ago, you 334 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: were looking at them like, these guys are young, and 335 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: they are incredibly talented. Anywhere in fact, you could have 336 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: made the argument the Jalen Hurts had the best team 337 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 4: around him of any Super Bowl winning quarterback ever and 338 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: the only one that gives me pause is the forty 339 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: nine ers in nineteen eighty four when they beat Dammering 340 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 4: and the Dolphins in the Super Bowl. Because they went 341 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 4: fifteen to one and they had the number one defense. 342 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: He said, wait a minute, Joe Montana, he's got the 343 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: number one defense. He's got Jerry Rice, he's got John Taylor, 344 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: he's got Roger Craig and Brent Jones. But the offensive 345 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: line was not to the Eagles, So you could even 346 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: say Jalen Hurts had a better team around him than 347 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: Montana had an eighty four an epic, historically great team 348 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 4: around him. The offensive line is slip. You don't see 349 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley having near the impact. His explosive plays last 350 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 4: year were historic. 351 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: Jalen has been in and out of the lineup. 352 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: They haven't been as good anywhere around them. So I'm 353 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: left to say, wait a minute. What appears to be 354 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: a ironclad truth, put it in ink, not pencil. It 355 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: can flip within three months. And so you asked me 356 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: where a dynasty could come from, I would have said, look, 357 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: I don't love their quarterback, but they're. 358 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: So good coach either. 359 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't like the offensive coordinator decision he made, right, 360 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: I mean, they lost Kellen Moore. And look, Kellen Moore 361 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: is telling people privately that he had to dumb down 362 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: that offense for the Eagles last year to such an 363 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: innth degree member. Now, he had been at the Chargers, 364 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: he'd been at the Cowboys, He'd been around a lot 365 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 4: of quarterbacks, and he had never had to simplify an 366 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 4: offense like he did last year. But again, because of 367 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: the nature of everybody around him and playing two Jalen 368 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: hurt strengths and away from his weaknesses, he had to 369 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 4: do that. But yeah, that I'm flummoxed. I don't really 370 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: I don't really see. You know, Denver could be because 371 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: I think bo Nix is a rising quarterback. They've got 372 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: a really good young defense. They're in a tough division, 373 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: but they've shown you know, obviously people are gonna say New. 374 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: England could be. 375 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: But yes, you know, in any year, the teams that 376 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: has the best record, you go, oh, they could have 377 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: stay in power. That doesn't mean they will. 378 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, And you named two of the three. Jackson, 379 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: I kind of went over in the six o'clock hour 380 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: last night. We had New England, Denver. We also included 381 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: I included I don't know if he Jackson did. I 382 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: included Houston in this because they just seem like number 383 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: one defense, young, young quarterback, hasn't made any money yet, 384 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: so you can pay the rest of their team. That 385 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: was that was kind of a team that in the 386 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: NFC Seattle, green Bay, Chicago, but that but Chicago depends 387 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: on what Caleb Williams. 388 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Is, and I don't think we know what he is yet. 389 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Green Bay and Seattle look like a team that are 390 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: at least on the Cup. 391 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: You mentioned how young they are. 392 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 6: Let me let me quickly interject, and I know we 393 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 6: got a break here, but let me quickly interject, Dick, 394 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: that I hadn't thought about this. The Rams have a 395 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 6: draft pick, I believe from the Atlanta Falcons, which will 396 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 6: be a high first round pick. They could easily take 397 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: the successor to Matthew Stafford and become a dynasty with 398 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 6: that first round quarter. 399 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: Is there is there a successor if they're a successor 400 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: in this draft the Matthew Stafford. 401 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: That's that's funny because I was just watching today the 402 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: coaches copy sideline and end zone copy of the Ohio 403 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: State game against Indiana, and I watched Fernando Mendoza. I was, 404 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: I watched every single play, uh, in part for a 405 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: segment we're going to do today when we discussed Demon 406 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: Williams and and there's a reason I wanted to watch Mendoza. 407 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: And you know, kind of there's a there's some comparisons 408 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make there, but but uh, yeah, Mendoza looks. Look, 409 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 4: he's got great traits. He's tall, he's athletic, he's got 410 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: textbook like teaching tape quality footwork with and and his 411 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: release and all. 412 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: So, but you don't know these guys. 413 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: You know. 414 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 4: It's like it's like, uh, it's like t bag. You know, 415 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: you don't know what you have until you put it 416 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: in hot water. And uh you know, so I could say, well, 417 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: this guy has the traits and what have you. But 418 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 4: how many times have have we seen bus So I'm reluctant. 419 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: I don't see any can't miss. But you know what, 420 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: even if I did. 421 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: Like Trevor, who are the guys where you say, okay, 422 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: this is just you know, a mic drop type of 423 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 4: quarterback rerever Lawrence, Uh, you know Andrew Luck who was 424 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: for the most part until he decided to, uh to retire. 425 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, there's not you don't know. 426 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and Cam Newton was number one over I mean, 427 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: I think it's just it's up in the air. 428 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 2: Fun with audio right around the corner on ninety three 429 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: point three KJRFM. 430 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: It's now time for Softy and Dick's fun with audio. 431 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have 432 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: some fun with audio. Let's have some fun with audio, 433 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: shall we? Softy and Dick. Softy will be back tomorrow. 434 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: Jackson is here, Hugh is here, and hey, hu did 435 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: you hear that? Oh Mont Jackson? 436 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: I always I always forget all right? Try one time? 437 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Three two and one? Hey Hugh, did you hear that? 438 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: What's that? Dick? There we go? 439 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: This morning on Wake Up Barstool on Fox Sports one, 440 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: Big Cat Cats had an interesting comparison when talking about 441 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: quarterback Jalen Hurts. 442 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts is going to have Jalen Hurts is just 443 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson two point oh. That's how I've thought about 444 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 7: him for a while now, where he is a very 445 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 7: good quarterback who needs a good defense and also is 446 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 7: very corny and uh, when he gets to his later 447 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 7: part of his. 448 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: Career, every it's gonna be like, WHOA, that guy's weird. 449 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 7: I mean, like he's a Tier two quarter Fine, Yeah, 450 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 7: you get exactly what Russell Wilson always was. Yeah, if 451 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 7: you look at Russell Wilson's career arc, I kind of 452 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 7: see the same thing coming from Jalen Hurts, where it's 453 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 7: like you you spend a lot of money on him, 454 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 7: you then have to give up money other places a team. 455 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Then you're like, you do it. 456 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 7: He might have a couple of years where he has 457 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 7: to do a lot of it and he gets his. 458 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: Throw, but is it winning football? 459 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 7: I don't know if it's winning football. 460 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I agree with part of that. 461 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: I disagree with part of that, Hugh, and I'll let 462 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: you know why and then I'll get your take on that. 463 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: I understand he is that kind of the top end 464 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: of the second tier of quarterbacks in the NFL, which 465 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: is exactly where Russell Wilson was. We always thought he 466 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: was six seven. 467 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Somewhere in there. 468 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: That's where we always ranked Russell Wilson when he was 469 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: a starting quarterback. He's had a great running game around him, 470 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts. He's had a great defense support him 471 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts, so he hasn't had to carry a 472 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: lot of burden on his shoulders. 473 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl. 474 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: That's I think where the comparisons fall apart, though, because 475 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: as a quarterback, I see Russ's slip your. 476 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: A much more accurate. 477 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: Passer of the football and Jalen just a tougher runner 478 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: of the football. 479 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Is That's That's kind of my two cents on what 480 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: he has. 481 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a good assessment. I think that 482 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 4: for the most part, there are some similarities. I would 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: say that Russell had a better deep ball, and I 484 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 4: think Jalen Hurts has a deep ball a pretty decent 485 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: goal route. 486 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: But I think Russ. 487 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: Had a high corner route, he had a post route. 488 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: I think there's a difference there. 489 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: As far as the elusiveness when Russell was young, yes, 490 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: I think he was more evasive, not as strong. Probably 491 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: similar speeds outright, long speed. So yeah, I think there's 492 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 4: a lot of similarities. 493 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: You know, I've I've. 494 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: Thought that that hurts. I've said it. I said last summer, 495 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: what have you I think for a number of years 496 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: when the Giants had in the bottom two or three 497 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: in offensive line and the bottom two or three in receivers. 498 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 4: That the hardest job on on on Earth really, uh, 499 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: in the sports world is a Giants quarterback. And I 500 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: was like, if you put Daniel Jones on the Eagles 501 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: and you put Jalen Hurts on the Giants, Daniel Jones 502 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: would be contending for Super Bowls and they'd be running 503 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts out of town. I think, and I thought, 504 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: I've said that, I've thought that for a long time 505 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: and and and we'll see. Now it seems like Jalen 506 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: Hurts is not handling the all the controversy, you know, 507 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: the A. J. Brown stuff that he's having to deal with. 508 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: Uh. You know, it just seems like. 509 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: The pressures getting tom And that's a hard city to 510 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: play too in as well. That's a tough weather city, 511 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: tough media. So I think those are equaled New York 512 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: and and Philly. But I think that there's signs that 513 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 4: he's not handling the pressure. 514 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 6: Well. 515 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: Well, at least they have the positivity rabbit in their 516 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: locker room that that worked last night. 517 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: Hey, Hugh, did you hear that? 518 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: That's that dick? 519 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: After the Chargers overtime win of the Eagles last night, 520 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh compared the victory to some big life moments. 521 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 8: This is definitely, I don't maybe the best best feeling, 522 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 8: uh you know, just a wonderful, wonderful feeling of winning 523 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 8: and thrill of victory. It's certainly in the discussion I 524 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 8: put in the discussion of the birth of my seven children, uh, 525 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 8: my marriage, Uh you know, in the conversation, in the conversation, 526 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 8: just joyful, uh joyous and uh you know the biblical 527 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 8: definition of that's just overflowing with with uh with joy. 528 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 8: It was beautiful. It was beautiful that competitor. It was 529 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 8: like a heavyweight fight, and I felt like our team 530 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 8: played our best when our best was needed. 531 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: You know, if Jim Harbaugh wasn't the head coach at 532 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: both Michigan and San Francisco, two of my most hated 533 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: college and pro franchises ever, I would probably like him 534 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: a lot. 535 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: And I don't mind him with the with the Chargers. 536 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: I think it's just there was so many years he 537 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: was just my bit arrival at San Francisco, and then 538 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: he went to Michigan, who I can't stand, and so 539 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of hard for me to embrace him 540 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: because of that. 541 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 3: Well, I think he's proven his chops. 542 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: To go back to when he was a head coach 543 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: at the University of San Diego. I remember looking at 544 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: the previous twenty five years of whatever that their nickname is, 545 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: but they hadn't done nothing. And then he really excelled, 546 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: which got him the Stanford job. And of course Stanford 547 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: with Buddy Stevens and others hadn't done anything. And then 548 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: he takes them to an epichite and then wins the 549 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: championship at Michigan. I'll be attainted in many people's eyes 550 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: what he did at the forty nine ers. Remember now, 551 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers they were, You don't It's easy 552 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: to forget how bad the forty nine ers were for 553 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: a number of years now. Alex Smith was the number 554 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: one overall pick that's right, right, and Chip Kelly went there. 555 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: He failed, like everything was not working. And and so. 556 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: The Jim thomasula. 557 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 4: He's a little bit of an odd duck. Now, you know, 558 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: he sounds a little spectromy from time to time, but 559 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: but wow, look you can't deny his coaching accomplishments. 560 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: No question about it, all right, now you tease something 561 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: earlier on in the hour that we're going to give 562 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: to the fans next, and that is a little breakdown 563 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: on Demon Williams. I am interested in your evaluation of 564 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: demand this year. I am interested in your I know 565 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: you don't do predictions, but your level of concern or 566 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: level of confidence that Demon Williams becomes the quarterback that 567 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: Husky fans want to see next season. We'll do that 568 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: next after Top of the Hour headlines on nine three 569 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 2: point three KJFM.