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Speaker 2: Are we sure they have nothing else to say? On

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Speaker 2: the Kentucky post game show? Are we sure?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 2: Moeger, ESPN fifteen thirty five, toll four, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining us. There's a ton going on today,

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Speaker 2: and this is one of those days where I wish

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Speaker 2: we had like six hours. We're only basically gonna have two,

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. We'll make the most of it. Kelsey

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Speaker 2: Conway is going to join us at four twenty on

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Speaker 2: the Bengals in free agency and to see if Duke

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Speaker 2: Tobin and the personnel staff at the venue formerly known

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Speaker 2: as Paul Brown Stadium is on vacation. Maybe everybody's out

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Speaker 2: watching college basketball today. It feels like that's what everybody

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Speaker 2: here is doing. Let's start with that. Obviously, you just

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Speaker 2: heard it from Nashville. Kentucky pulls away ish laid against LSU,

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Speaker 2: knockoff the Tigers eighty seven to eighty two. The Wildcats

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Speaker 2: will take on Missouri tomorrow, another daytime game, another twelve

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Speaker 2: thirty tip on ESPN. In fifteen thirty, the Wildcats advanced

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Speaker 2: to the second round in Nashville. Meanwhile, the Bearcats are

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Speaker 2: playing right now, and I thought for the most part

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Speaker 2: yesterday I maintained my composure today is it's still an

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Speaker 2: elimination game. If the Bearcats lose today, it's I think

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Speaker 2: impossible for all of us to imagine this team having

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Speaker 2: its name called on Sunday. If they win this game,

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Speaker 2: I think the prevailing sentiment is still going to be

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Speaker 2: that they need another one and they'll have a golden

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Speaker 2: would be interesting. There's lots of other games we're paying

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Speaker 2: attention to right now. Cincinnati Bearcats got off to an

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Speaker 2: eleven to two start. You see Leeds, you see have

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Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty. This has been a sloppy game.

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Speaker 2: The Knights are shooting thirty one percent. The Bearcats are

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Speaker 2: shooting thirty two percent. The turnovers are starting to mount

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Speaker 2: for Cincinnati seven so far. With just over four minutes

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Speaker 2: to go, you see is up a point. The biggest

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Speaker 2: game easily of the West Miller Era, slightly bigger, I

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Speaker 3: So we're monitoring that.

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Speaker 2: We've got some college basketball to get to next hour

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Speaker 2: with our friend Rick Brooring Musketeer Report dot Com also

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Speaker 2: color analysts for the NK you broadcast, and we'll kind

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Speaker 2: of put a bow on NKU season. We'll look ahead

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Speaker 2: to tonight though Madison Square, Garden, Xavier, and Marquette. I

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Speaker 2: have not seen Trey Carroll's name on the Big East

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Speaker 2: Availability Report. Will get a sense from Rick as to

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Speaker 2: whether or not Trey could go and how they could

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Speaker 2: he would give the Musketeers a chance if they would

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Speaker 2: advance to round two where they would play Yukon. I

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Speaker 2: mentioned on top of area teams playing, there are a

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Speaker 2: handful of games that if you're a Cincinnati fan you're

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Speaker 2: probably playing. Paying a close attention to. One of them

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Speaker 2: involves SMU. SMU won its game yesterday. They're playing today

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Speaker 2: against Louisville in the tournament. That game is very early

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Speaker 2: in the second half. The Cardinals have a one point lead.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to take any bracketologists projections as gospel.

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Speaker 2: I think that sometimes gets lost here. Like whatever these

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Speaker 2: bracketologists are putting out there, whether it's our guy Hunter

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Speaker 3: They're just opinions. They're just projections.

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Speaker 2: But you look at some common themes teams around the bubble,

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Speaker 2: They're playing tonight. Indiana plays this evening against Northwestern, which

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Speaker 2: in the SEC. The Tigers are still, according to some bracketology,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's the candidacy of this year's Auburn team. The

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson is a Baltimore Raven and you know what I

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Speaker 2: maybe between now and six o'clock the Bengals find a

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Speaker 2: Knight and Barrett Carter as sophomore starters Week one of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six season. All that ahead, four o'clock,

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Team thirty Cincinnati is Sports.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, It's five after four. This

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Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty. Now the show can really begin. Mulleger,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. You see is

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Speaker 2: before halftime. Bearcats an elimination game for Cincinnati. Kelsey Conway

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Speaker 2: And so I'm gonna pull Hurl away from the game

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about the Bengals search for

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Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. That's the biggest story in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 2: ripple effects to the Trey Hendrickson thing, to the Max

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Speaker 2: have to do this offseason and to a large degree

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Speaker 4: Everyone has been talking about that. We've been talking about

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Speaker 3: And I think we have.

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Speaker 4: Felt like they were at least they have expressed a

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Speaker 2: I've got more names crossed off than I do. Names available,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, but the top two are still available, yes,

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Speaker 2: And so I think there is a lot more heat

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Speaker 3: We've just said it. He just feels like the perfect fit.

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Speaker 4: to be a part of this, but the big boxes

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Speaker 4: That's the last one that I have unchecked.

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Twenty four hours later, Well, Leo Chanal

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Speaker 2: It feels like with each passing minute there's an increased

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Speaker 3: But now you can't help but wonder.

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Speaker 2: Was this a little bit too much for the Bengals

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Speaker 3: They could multitask.

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Speaker 2: Now, maybe this ultimately has a fix, right, Maybe there

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You certainly don't have to add players the first couple

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Speaker 2: It's stunk and for lack of a better way of

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Speaker 3: But you know what need the linebacker?

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Speaker 2: It is an important position, is it is a position

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Speaker 2: I hope we're not asking this question tomorrow. The sad

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Speaker 7: Hey Mo, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm well, do you want to play linebacker for the Bengals?

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Speaker 8: Oh? No, No I don't.

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Speaker 7: But I you know, I wish I had better news

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Speaker 7: the Bengals aren't interested. And so I tried to comb

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Speaker 8: A lot of great news.

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Speaker 7: So we can get into it on this show. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's been it's been a hard day to figure out

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Speaker 9: The Bengals plan has been since day one.

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Speaker 7: So and I know we'll get into it and you

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Speaker 2: You could mean no, no, you Well, let's let's sort

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Speaker 8: You know, we need a Sam linebacker.

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Speaker 7: You know, we asked Amitrius and I to do stuff

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Speaker 7: via a trade right now. I mean, there could be

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Speaker 7: one in the works that they're keeping completely hush hush,

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Speaker 7: but people other teams aren't in the mix of giving away.

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Speaker 7: They're either one or top two d tackles, especially in

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Speaker 7: a year where the free agency crop wasn't great and

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Speaker 7: the draft crop isn't great. So that's another one where

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Speaker 7: I'm struggling to figure out, like, Okay, if they're not

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Speaker 7: going to sign one of these guys in free agency,

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Speaker 7: are they going to try and trade for a guy who's.

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Speaker 9: Currently on another team.

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Speaker 7: Well, one of the most logical fits to me would

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Speaker 7: have been Osa, and they're not headed in that direction.

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Speaker 7: So long story short, I don't know what their plan

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Speaker 7: is after day one.

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Speaker 2: It feels like specifically to those two positions, and I think,

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Speaker 2: frankly a little bit more so linebacker, just because I

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Speaker 2: think there were more names out there that seem to

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Speaker 2: fit what they should be looking for.

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Speaker 3: It feels like last year.

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Speaker 2: It feels like last year for the entire defense, it

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Speaker 2: was well, you know, toward the end of the season,

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Speaker 2: we won those games, and yeah, you could say we

456
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Speaker 2: feasted on bad quarterbacks, but we did just enough to

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Speaker 2: essentially bring all those dudes back, and then we saw

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Speaker 2: what the results were. And so I think in the

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Speaker 2: back of any fan's mind has to be that. And

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Speaker 2: then you think ahead to this coming season and it's like,

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Speaker 2: are they really going to go into this season with

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Speaker 2: Carter and Knight playing these significant roles that they were

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Speaker 2: forced to play in last year, Like, is it really

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Speaker 2: going to be bj Hill and Chris Jenkins and guys

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Speaker 2: who were on the team last year. I saw that

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Speaker 2: movie before, and yeah, man, they upgraded its safety and

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Speaker 2: I think they're okay on the edge, especially if Miles

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Speaker 2: Murphy ends up continuing his ascension. But I think the

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Speaker 2: frustrating thing for me you talk about plan, it feels

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Speaker 2: like last year's plan specific so far, at least to

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Speaker 2: detackle on linebacker. I hope that changes. I'm fearful that

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Speaker 2: it won't.

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Speaker 7: I can completely see why you're saying that, and I'm

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Speaker 7: thinking the same thing where I think it's different than

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Speaker 7: it was last year is that they finally admitted they

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Speaker 7: needed a real guy at safety.

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Speaker 8: I mean, at least they did.

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Speaker 7: That, right, Okay, so at least they acknowledged that they

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Speaker 7: weren't good enough at that position. But what I look

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Speaker 7: at day one is those guys were signed to replace

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Speaker 7: guys that left. So I'm not saying that the Bengals

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Speaker 7: are better yet because they signed Brian Cochan, Boye Mafe,

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Speaker 7: Because keep in mind, you're not just replacing Trey Hendrickson's production.

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Speaker 7: You're also replacing josepho size production. Those are two guys

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Speaker 7: that gave you a lot off the edge. So really, boy,

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Speaker 7: Mafe is just a piece of how you replace that

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Speaker 7: production and you hope it works and then safety you

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Speaker 7: upgrade it there. But the Bengals defense right now is

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Speaker 7: not a better unit than it was when it ended

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Speaker 7: this season. And that's where I'm perplexed because you see

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Speaker 7: teams like the Washington Commanders who made it a point

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Speaker 7: after a bad year on defense, we are going to

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Speaker 7: fix this, and they went out and they addressed it completely,

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Speaker 7: made over their defensive line, you know, with odafe Away

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Speaker 7: going there, Klevon, Chase On and then adding Leoshanal like

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Speaker 7: they had a clear plan and they executed it. And

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Speaker 7: I thought that the Bengals were going to do that,

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Speaker 7: and they did it. And you know, of course there's

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Speaker 7: still time. You know that you can't the Bengals are

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Speaker 7: playing a game on Sunday, but they're really missing the

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Speaker 7: window on some players. And just to your point about

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Speaker 7: the linebackers, nobody was saying that the Bengals needed to

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Speaker 7: go out.

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Speaker 9: And sign a mic linebacker to.

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Speaker 8: Take over for Barrett Carter.

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Speaker 7: What everybody was hoping for was that they would bring

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Speaker 7: in a leader who has experienced that can push those

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Speaker 7: guys along. And is it not like the best case

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Speaker 7: scenario to have real competition in training camp at linebacker?

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Speaker 7: And that, to me is where I'm totally just perplexed.

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Speaker 7: And I hear you that it sounds a lot like

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Speaker 7: last year.

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Speaker 8: And for Duke to.

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Speaker 7: Oven to go up to the podium and say, you know,

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Speaker 7: we have the resources, the Bengals set themselves up for

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Speaker 7: their fans to be upset in a way with that

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Speaker 7: statement because they.

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Speaker 8: Haven't backed it up.

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Speaker 2: Can they not multitask? And the reason I bring this

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Speaker 2: up was by their own admission last year from ownership.

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Speaker 2: You were there at the owners meetings. Hey, you know,

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Speaker 2: we were kind of locked into getting Jamar and t

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Speaker 2: done and that kind of precluded us from devoting all

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Speaker 2: the attention and resources we would have liked to free agency.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was an incredibly lame excuse, but the

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Speaker 2: message was we couldn't multitask. Can they not multitask and

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Speaker 2: go try to get the guys they got on Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry on Monday, and even the players they tried

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Speaker 2: for but didn't get on Monday, all the while reach

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Speaker 2: out to and negotiate with players at other positions who

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Speaker 2: have signed with other teams.

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Speaker 7: So there's my response that is going to be I

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Speaker 7: think it's a little bit twofold here.

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Speaker 8: Keep in mind this, and I'm not going to get.

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Speaker 7: Into specifics, but I think this is an important piece

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Speaker 7: of information for Bengals fans. Keep in mind, free agency

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Speaker 7: is very much a one team can show interest in

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Speaker 7: that player. The bad player and his representation have to

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Speaker 7: want to be in Cincinnati. They have to want to

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Speaker 7: negotiate with the Bengals. They have to want their player

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Speaker 7: to be there. The Bengals have had history with.

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Speaker 8: Some agents that represent a lot of players.

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Speaker 7: And that comes in the factor here in free agency

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Speaker 7: because the player gets to choose. So if the Bengals

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Speaker 7: were up against another team and that agent of that

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Speaker 7: player has had bad negotiations with the Bengals, like, let's

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Speaker 7: not forget that, that could maybe come into the conversation.

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Speaker 7: So that's an important piece of information. Don't think that

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Speaker 7: the Bengals reputations somehow, some way finds its way into

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Speaker 7: free agency at times with specific agents. Also, the other

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Speaker 7: part of what you're saying is can theynot multitask? That's

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Speaker 7: where the constant questions about the scouting staff come into play,

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Speaker 7: because if you if you can't have a big enough

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Speaker 7: scouting staff where they can handle many of these things

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Speaker 7: going on right now, like they're trying to book, like

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Speaker 7: when they're doing the pro days, they're trying to do

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Speaker 7: draft stuff while they're doing it, like there's a lot

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Speaker 7: going on. But you don't help yourself get rid of

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Speaker 7: those questions about the size of your scouting staff when

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Speaker 7: it seems like they can't operate and do multiple things

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Speaker 7: at a high level at one time. And so I

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Speaker 7: think that's that's going to continue to be a question

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Speaker 7: when when you ask questions like then they not multitask well,

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Speaker 7: then then having a really small staff doesn't help in.

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Speaker 9: Situations like this.

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Speaker 7: But I think based off of what I know about

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Speaker 7: the Bangals and what they thought going into free agency,

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Speaker 7: I said, I said it, you know a number of times,

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Speaker 7: temper your expectations because the Beangals didn't think the defensive

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Speaker 7: crop at some of the positions that they needed was

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Speaker 7: as good as the outside did. And I know that's

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Speaker 7: frustrating for fans to hear and you can say, well,

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Speaker 7: they'd at least be better than what they had. Sure, definitely,

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Speaker 7: but the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: The Bengals didn't have high.

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Speaker 7: Enough grades on a lot of these players, and that's

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Speaker 7: why clearly you saw them not being the mix for

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Speaker 7: some of these guys.

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Speaker 8: That you could say they need. So I think there's

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Speaker 8: a lot there.

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Speaker 7: As far as how the Bengals ended up where they

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Speaker 7: are right now, and that.

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Speaker 9: Is with just two new players when.

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Speaker 7: They probably needed about four to five new starters on

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Speaker 7: defense right now.

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Speaker 2: One more Kelsey Conway from The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com,

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Speaker 2: where she, by the way, takes your mailbag question.

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Speaker 3: She is also on Twitter at Kelsey L. Conway.

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Speaker 2: What is your overarching takeaway from Trey Hendrickson joining the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and the route that was taken for him

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Speaker 2: to get there.

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Speaker 7: I think it's coomical that you know, of course, Trey

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Speaker 7: Hendrickston is gonna end up with the team in the

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Speaker 7: division and it'd be a new storyline, you know, mo.

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Speaker 7: I actually think he signed well.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it's official yet, but.

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Speaker 7: He went to the Ravens just so that two weeks

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Speaker 7: a year you continue to talk about him, since I

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Speaker 7: know how much he loved to talk about Tranderson. But

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Speaker 7: on a more serious note, I was on a Baltimore

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Speaker 7: podcast this morning and they asked, like, what was the

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Speaker 7: reaction from Bengals players about Trey going to the to

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Speaker 7: the Ravens. And what I thought was the most interesting

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Speaker 7: thing is as I actually talked to a Bengals player

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Speaker 7: this morning and I asked, and it wasn't that they're

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Speaker 7: fearful of Tray being in the division. It was more

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Speaker 7: of a relief that they don't have to go up

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Speaker 7: against Max Crosby and that he's not going to be

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Speaker 7: in the division. So I thought that was really interesting

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Speaker 7: about the whole situation. But I think it unfolded perfectly

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Speaker 7: for Trey. I thought it was very interesting that he

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Speaker 7: waited it out, and I thought him waiting it out might.

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Speaker 8: Not work in his favor.

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Speaker 7: But it always felt like Trey was going to end

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Speaker 7: up going to a team that's legit, you know, trying

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Speaker 7: to win a Super Bowl. I didn't see him going

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Speaker 7: to a team that was, you know, kind of in

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Speaker 7: a rebuild mode. So it went basically how I expected

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Speaker 7: it when it was he was going to wait it

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Speaker 7: out because he didn't feel that the teams were meeting

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Speaker 7: his value. You know, Trey a tray the entire time

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Speaker 7: with the Bangles, thought he was in the upper echelon

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Speaker 7: of edge rushers.

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Speaker 9: And the league told you.

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Speaker 8: This past week.

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Speaker 7: You know, they didn't view him how he viewed himself.

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Speaker 7: But it ended up working out for Trey. And it'll

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Speaker 7: certainly be interesting because I covered a lot of training

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Speaker 7: camp reps of Trey and Orlando going at it with

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Speaker 7: each other, and it's going to be fascinating to see

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Speaker 7: the Bangals knowing like what his weaknesses are VI first,

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Speaker 7: Trey knowing you know how to beat Orlando Brown.

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Speaker 8: Like, the storylines are going to be really interesting there.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited because I'm a fan of interesting and fun

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Speaker 2: and Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals twice years interesting

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Speaker 2: and fun. By the way, we're winning the game thirty

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Speaker 2: four to thirty one, so I think we're plus two.

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Speaker 2: Since you jumped on the phone with me, you've been

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Speaker 2: good luck. I know you have a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you run. Thank you as.

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Speaker 7: Always, thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 2: tell you. Trey Hendrickson's going to sign with the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: twice in twenty twenty six. College basketball under fourteen to

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Speaker 2: go in Kansas City, u SE leads UCF by a

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Speaker 2: score of thirty six to thirty two. Earlier today in

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Speaker 2: that event Big twelve Tournament, Iowa State crushed Arizona State

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Speaker 2: ninety one to forty two. Xavier plays Marquette tonight at

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Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden in the Big East Tournament. Winner will

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Speaker 2: take on Yukon. We'll chat with Rick Boring in just

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Speaker 2: a second. Kentucky a winner today in the SEC Tournament

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Speaker 2: over LSU eighty seven to eighty two. The Wildcats will

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Speaker 2: take on Missouri tomorrow at twelve thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Also in that event in Nashville, thirteen minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: Auburn a forty eight to forty lead over Mississippi State.

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Speaker 2: In the ACCED Tournament, SMU leads Number twenty four Louisville

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Speaker 2: fifty eight to fifty seven, just under two minutes to

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Speaker 2: go in that one. Iowall win today in the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten Tournament over Missouri seventy five to sixty four. The

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Speaker 2: Hawkeyes will take on Ohio State tomorrow. Indiana battles Northwestern

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Speaker 2: tonight in Chicago in that event. By the way, there

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Speaker 2: is a happening right now in New York in the

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Speaker 2: Biggies Tournament. Butler leads Providence thirty six thirty one under

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Speaker 2: three to go. Matt McClain his fifth home run of

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Speaker 2: the spring. Cincinnati has gone yard three times today. Noelve,

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Speaker 2: Marte his second, Jose Travino his first, Cincinnati on top

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Speaker 2: of the Brewers in goodyear three to two reds batting

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Speaker 2: bottom of the second inning. Opening day starter Andrew Abbott

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Speaker 2: on the hill for Cincinnati and Mexico and Italy are

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Speaker 2: going to play in the World Baseball Classic, and I'm

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Speaker 2: too dumb to understand the tiebreaker, you know, who's not

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Speaker 2: dumb our friend Rick Brooring from Musketeer Report dot Com.

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Speaker 2: By the way, because Tarn wants to do this yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I was composed, but he wants to broadcast this live

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, so if something crazy happens in the UC game,

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Speaker 2: you could see my reaction. So you could watch this

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Speaker 2: show right now on Twitter at moeger. And because we're

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Speaker 2: bringing in Rick Broing an hour later than usual, you

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Speaker 2: can actually watch this conversation as Rick, Rick and I

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Speaker 2: talk on zoom. This is this is really exciting. We're

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Speaker 2: really leaning into tech analogy today. By the way, this

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Speaker 2: on the heels of Charlie Goldsmith's cell phone from nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety seven that he used yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Rick, what's up though?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: A lot, a lot? How about yourself?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I was just watching the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna watch the Musketeers tonight. Is Trey Carroll gonna play?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 11: The injury report just came out from the Big East

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Speaker 11: and he is not on it, So that would lead

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Speaker 11: everyone to believe that he is available in what role?

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Speaker 11: How close to one hundred percent is he going to be?

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Speaker 11: We don't know, but it sounds like he's gonna give

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Speaker 11: it a go.

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Speaker 3: All right, good.

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Speaker 2: I think of the first Marquette game, Xavier got crushed

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Speaker 2: on the glass and they.

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Speaker 3: Turned the ball over a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think of the second Marquette game, they were better

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Speaker 2: on the glass and they took better care of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Is that what tonight comes down to?

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Speaker 12: That?

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Speaker 11: And shooting the three point shot? I mean the second game,

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Speaker 11: that was the other big part of it. I mean,

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Speaker 11: they were just bombs away. They made sixteen threes in

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Speaker 11: that game, and when they make twelve or more threes

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Speaker 11: this year, they're seven to one. So that's been a

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Speaker 11: huge part of their success. When they've been successful, I

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Speaker 11: think that makes it much easier for them to pull

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Speaker 11: off a win.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: Part of that that you have to talk about is

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Speaker 11: last time they were at Madison Square Garden this season

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Speaker 11: against Saint John's was one of their worst shooting nights

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Speaker 11: of the year. So Saint John's obviously a different team

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Speaker 11: defensively than Marquette is, but that's the last time they

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Speaker 11: shot in this arena. So that's definitely something I'm gonna

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Speaker 11: have my eye on.

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Speaker 2: How the hell did Marquette beat yukon on Saturday? It's

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Speaker 2: a really good question. Has to be terrifying to go

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Speaker 2: into this game knowing they just beat Yukon. They've won

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Speaker 2: five of their last six, so they're clearly playing their

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Speaker 2: best basketball.

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Speaker 11: Of the season. Now, you know, again, how did they

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Speaker 11: pull that one off?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: It feels a little bit fluky. Maybe the pressure got

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Speaker 11: to Yukon in that situation or something. But I think

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Speaker 11: this is It's been two close games the first two

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Speaker 11: times these two teams played. I would expect another close

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Speaker 11: game here tonight, assuming Trey Carroll is able to play

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Speaker 11: in is somewhere near one hundred percent rexavior.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting to me is Trey Carroll playing tonight, But also,

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Speaker 2: if you win, you got to bring him out there

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Speaker 2: in a consecutive night against an already extraordinarily tough task

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Speaker 2: in Yukon. I'm actually and they have to win the

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Speaker 2: game tonight.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm is equally interested in what he would

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Speaker 2: look like if they did have to play a game tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they have much of a shot

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Speaker 2: at at even hanging with Yukon, even if he does go.

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Speaker 2: But I guess for me that's what's more interesting than tonight.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I mean, based

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Speaker 11: on the fact that he was struggling to move around.

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Speaker 11: It's a hip injury where he fell on it. I

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Speaker 11: don't know what the actual diagnosis was, but we consume

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Speaker 11: maybe some type of contusion or whatever. Got to imagine

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Speaker 11: the second day after playing a night game, he's not

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Speaker 11: going to feel too great. But like you said, I

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Speaker 11: don't know that I would care too much about that

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Speaker 11: either way, because they haven't had a chance against Yukon

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Speaker 11: either time they played on the season.

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Speaker 3: Is I know you're not a bracketologist.

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Speaker 2: Is this season the most convincing argument against NCAA inevitable

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Speaker 2: in all likelihood NCUBLE tournament expansion.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think it's. I summed this up best

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Speaker 11: in a text message we shared a few nights ago,

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Speaker 11: when I said, we've been talking about tournament expansion for

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Speaker 11: far too long. I sent you a screenshot of some

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Speaker 11: guy who commented on this from like twenty and eleven,

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Speaker 11: and I enjoyed his take Back. Then, we've been talking

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Speaker 11: about this like every single year. At this point, I

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Speaker 11: just don't care. Do whatever you're gonna do with the tournament,

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Speaker 11: just let me watch it and don't make me listen

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Speaker 11: to the complaints about it for two months leading up

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Speaker 11: to the tournament. That's by far worse than actually expanding

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Speaker 11: the tournament is listening to everybody whine about the possibility

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Speaker 11: that at some point we might expand the tournament for

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Speaker 11: the last fourteen years, that's been pretty annoying.

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Speaker 2: On Yeah, and I've participated in that a lot. I

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Speaker 2: just I look at the bubble this year, and you

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Speaker 2: sees a part of this conversation there's like I look

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Speaker 2: at certain bracketology projections and I see Auburn at sixteen

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Speaker 2: and fifteen in the tournament. If that's what we're coming

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Speaker 2: close to including in a sixty eighteen field, what kind

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Speaker 2: of wreck? What kind of wretched teams are we going

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Speaker 2: to include the seventy sixteen field.

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Speaker 11: I think it will not go this way, But let

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Speaker 11: me throw this out to you. This is something I've

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Speaker 11: been told by people who do scheduling for high major teams.

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Speaker 11: They've made the claim to me that if the tournament

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Speaker 11: field were to be expanded, they would be much more

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Speaker 11: open to scheduling more difficult, high profile, interesting non conference

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Speaker 11: matchups because there's more margin for air. You don't feel

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Speaker 11: like one loss could cost you your ticket into the

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Speaker 11: Big Dance if that were the case, And again, I

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Speaker 11: don't actually believe that's what they would do with that opportunity.

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Speaker 11: I think they'd still just try to skate by and

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Speaker 11: find the easiest path into the tournament. But if that

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Speaker 11: were the case and they were to schedule more interesting

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Speaker 11: non conference games, would that make it better from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to a degree, if there's if, if that actually happens.

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Speaker 11: I've spent trust them to do that.

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Speaker 2: I've spent a lifetime hearing coaches say we'll play anybody anywhere, anytime,

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Speaker 2: and then you know their schedule looks like Travis Steels

828
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: No knock on Miami.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that's I hear that every year from

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Speaker 2: coaches won't play anybody, and then they never do. So

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Speaker 2: I'm skeptical that that would be the case. Rick Bororing

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Speaker 2: is with this. Xavier and Marquette tonight put a bow

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Speaker 2: on NKU in the Horizon Lead Tournament. I thought I

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Speaker 2: thought at halftime that that being as good of a

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Speaker 2: game as it was, and I know they took a

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Speaker 2: lead early in the second half, it felt like a

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Speaker 2: house of cards because I didn't think they were gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to defend Right State, and I kind of

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Speaker 2: felt like, as the game unfolded, I ended up being right.

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Speaker 11: Is that a fair perspective, Yeah, And I think that's

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Speaker 11: you know, I certainly don't speak for the program or

843
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Speaker 11: the coaching staff or anything like that, but from my perspective,

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Speaker 11: that's what made it a little bit easier to swallow

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Speaker 11: is at the end of that game, you just felt like, Okay,

846
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Speaker 11: Right State was clearly the better team this year. They

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Speaker 11: beat them three times, and in that third game, like

848
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Speaker 11: you said, NKU was playing right with them for the

849
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Speaker 11: first half, felt like they were playing pretty well, and

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Speaker 11: then once again they just couldn't guard Right State down

851
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Speaker 11: the stretch and they made the necessary plays. And look,

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Speaker 11: we were wondering, how would some of those young guys,

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Speaker 11: you know, they play two freshmen a lot of minutes,

854
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Speaker 11: they play a sophomore a lot of minutes on that team,

855
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Speaker 11: how would they react to being in that weird arena,

856
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Speaker 11: in a one and done environment for the first time.

857
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Speaker 11: And there were multiple occasions where NK you had just

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Speaker 11: a little bit of momentum in the second half, had

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Speaker 11: a good defensive possession where they take it right down

860
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Speaker 11: in the final seconds of the shot clock, and three

861
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Speaker 11: different time those young players for Right State banged buzzer

862
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Speaker 11: beating shot clock beating three pointers and those were all daggers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you got to do if you're

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Speaker 2: gonna win a championship. I felt like NKU season this

865
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Speaker 2: year was weird. Is that a fair way of characterizing.

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Speaker 11: It, Yeah, it is. I think there are a few

867
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Speaker 11: things going on there. One, this is the first time,

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Speaker 11: you know, as much as we feel like we've been

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Speaker 11: in the transfer portal era for a while, this is

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Speaker 11: the first time that NK you really turned over a

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Speaker 11: large portion of its roster in the transfer portal. They've

872
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 11: really retained a lot of guys every season and just

873
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 11: added a guy here, a piece there for depth. It's

874
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 11: never been their main guys. This year they finally did that,

875
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 11: and I think for the first time, it took them

876
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 11: a little bit longer to settle into their de They

877
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 11: changed their defense a lot more than they ever have.

878
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 11: And then you also had that stretch a little past

879
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Speaker 11: the midway point of conference play where they had a

880
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 11: lot of guys out with injury yet LJ Wells down,

881
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Speaker 11: Cal Robinson down, Donovan Rockos and not a Harri down

882
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 11: and they struggled through that stretch, which kind of put

883
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 11: them in a bit of a spin and cost them

884
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 11: some seating position. But then right by the end of

885
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 11: the season, once again it seemed like they were playing

886
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 11: their best basketball. They had some momentum going into the tournament,

887
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 11: and they got back to the semi finals.

888
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about what happens this offseason is,

889
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, the Norse are going to have to replace

890
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: the school's all time leader and field goal percentage, Mitchell Minor,

891
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: who leaves NKU with a field goal percentage of one

892
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: hundred percent pride to Scott High School. And so I

893
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: guess there's a two part question there, how do you

894
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: replace him? And what plans might be made to honor him.

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Speaker 11: I was walking through the hallways over at the Truest

896
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 11: Arena today and I was looking around. I couldn't find anybody.

897
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 11: I was like, what is going on? And actually that's

898
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 11: what I heard. They were having team meeting staff meetings

899
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Speaker 11: about how do we replace Mitchell Minor. So I don't

900
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 11: know if anyone has the answer for one from the field, yeah,

901
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 11: right right, So I would probably be making a lot

902
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Speaker 11: more money. If I knew the answer to that question.

903
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well get to the bottom of that. We'll maybe

904
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Speaker 2: talk about it next week at the Holy Grail. Thank

905
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: you as always, good to see you. We'll talk next week.

906
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 11: I will say Mitchell Miner might be making appearance on

907
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 11: the Darren Horn TV show.

908
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: Oh later this month.

909
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Will he be introduced as the school's all time leader

910
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: in field goal percentage?

911
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: Three for three is perfect.

912
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Speaker 11: I might know the guy in control of that, so

913
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Speaker 11: I'll run it past him.

914
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Speaker 3: Very good.

915
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Speaker 2: Thanks man, We'll see We'll see you next week. Rick

916
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Speaker 2: Brooring Musketeer Report dot com. Follow him on Twitter at

917
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Speaker 2: Rick Browing. Bearcats have a seven point lead eleven fifty

918
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Speaker 2: eight to go in Kansas City. Really quickly here because

919
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Speaker 2: some of these other games could have an impact on Cincinnati.

920
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Speaker 2: Louisville has taken a lead in the final minute over

921
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Speaker 2: SMU six sixty two to fifty eight. Auburn continues to

922
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Speaker 2: lead over Mississippi State fifty six to fifty three. It

923
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Speaker 2: is uh six away five by the way now from

924
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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Trey Hendrickson going to the Ravens I think

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Speaker 2: is awesome and we'll explain next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

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Speaker 2: All right, it is by ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeggers, thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening today. Hopefully you're having an awesome Wednesday.

939
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Speaker 2: After knowing a ton going on quickly on the hoops,

940
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Speaker 2: U sez up nine eight nineteen to go forty nine

941
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Speaker 2: to forty SMU lost, which is not unhelpful, sixty two

942
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Speaker 2: fifty nine to Louisville. Xavier's playing later tonight Kentucky a winner,

943
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Speaker 2: which means tomorrow they'll take on Missouri after beating LSU today.

944
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Speaker 2: The game's on ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow. Twelve thirty is

945
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Speaker 2: tip off, so we'll get on the air roughly. I'm

946
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Speaker 2: guessing at three point fifty five. Yet again no since

947
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Speaker 2: e three sixty Tomorrow, We've got an expert from Orthosinci

948
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Speaker 2: on Hunter Green's procedure and uh find out about the timeline,

949
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Speaker 2: possible complications, and I also I'll ask him if he

950
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Speaker 2: thinks that Hunter Green's gonna have to like change his

951
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: mechanics or not throw his hard that sort of stuff.

952
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: That conversation is coming up just about fifteen minutes, maybe

953
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: thirty minutes. We will see. We're streaming the show on

954
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: Twitter today because years ago Terren spied on me and

955
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: caught me reacting to UC winning a big twelve tournament game.

956
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: I believe over West Virginia, and I've I think I've

957
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: maintained my composure.

958
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: I've behaved myself.

959
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: I do not think they get in if they win

960
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: today and lose tomorrow, but it does get a lot

961
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: more interesting. And look, they're gonna be huge dogs Arizona

962
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: wipe the floor with them the first time, but just

963
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: give me a chance. They're seven and change away now,

964
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: an eleven point lead, fifty one to forty. Mustapha Cham

965
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: has been really good, Keishaan Tillery has been really good,

966
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: and hopefully the Bearcats can finish. The Bengals still haven't

967
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: signed a linebacker. Case you're wondering, Trey Hendrickson is a

968
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: Baltimore Raven and I last night was a really fun

969
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: sports night because you had the World Baseball Classic, you

970
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: had college hoops happening, you had Bam out of Bios

971
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: scoring eighty three points, and you had the disintegration of

972
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: the agreed upon trade between the Ravens and the Las

973
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Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders, which would have sent two first round picks

974
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Speaker 2: from Baltimore to Vegas in exchange for Max Crosby. Baltimore

975
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Speaker 2: Nicks is the deal. And watching everybody way in on

976
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: this and watching people around the NFL get mad at

977
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens was a lot of fun. What the

978
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: Ravens have done is apparently within the rules. I don't

979
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Speaker 2: know that they have violated any collective bargaining agreement rule.

980
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that they have violated any part of

981
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Speaker 2: the NFL's constitution. You could argue that what they have

982
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: done is shady, and there's probably something to that, but

983
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: what they've done is within the rules. And you can

984
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Speaker 2: argue that what they've done is unethical, but so is

985
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Speaker 2: turning off the hot water and the visiting team shower.

986
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Speaker 2: The Ravens have one obligation, and I'm no Baltimore fan,

987
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: but the Ravens have one obligation, and that obligation is

988
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: to themselves. And so they did something that whether it's legit,

989
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: and they legitimately were scared off by Max Crosby's physical

990
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 2: or saw Trey Hendrickson dangling out here and thought, well,

991
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: we can get a guy who's maybe a little bit

992
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: more of a sex specialist and a little bit older,

993
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: but we could get him well at the same time

994
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: keeping our first round picks Like that, that's a better deal.

995
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: And we haven't signed anything in the new league year

996
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: hasn't started yet.

997
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: Like is that shady?

998
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 12: Yeah?

999
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: Is that unethical?

1000
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: Sure, But the.

1001
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: Ravens at the end of the day have one obligation.

1002
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: Their obligation is to themselves. Now, when you do something unethical,

1003
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: when you do something that your peers or your competitors

1004
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: find unethical, you're gonna have to deal with the fallout.

1005
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: Like if I do something that violates something ethically in

1006
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: this business. Maybe it's not going to cost me my job,

1007
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: but it might cost me credibil with my colleagues, my coworkers.

1008
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: It might keep some of them from wanting to do

1009
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: business with me or making me a part of their projects.

1010
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: I have to deal with that, I believe, and this

1011
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: is just me. You could disagree if you'd like, and

1012
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: tell me if you do. But in terms of like, well,

1013
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: teams aren't gonna want to do business with the Baltimore

1014
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Ravens anymore. If the Ravens have someone or something, then

1015
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: another team wants they'll do business with the Baltimore Ravens

1016
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: and agents yeah, like okay, if there are agents who

1017
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: are looking at the Ravens going, I'm not sure I

1018
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: want to do business with them. I think that will

1019
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: last until their client is offered the most money in

1020
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: a deal by the Baltimore Ravens. We will see the

1021
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: Trey hendricks in part of this, the Trey hendricks in

1022
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: part of this him going to the Baltimore Ravens.

1023
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: I think it's cool. I get it.

1024
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: It feels maybe to you like betrayal, although Trey Hendrickson

1025
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: owed the Bengals nothing like if your employer lets you go,

1026
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: which is effectively what happened with Trey Hendrickson. You don't

1027
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: owe them anything once your employment ends. So if it

1028
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: means go work for their direct competitor or your boss's

1029
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: sworn enemy, find so be it.

1030
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: I think this is fun because.

1031
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: The Trey Hendrickson thing, like it or not, has dominated

1032
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: the discourse and we've had a ton of fun with it.

1033
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: But what has always been interesting is ultimately, will it

1034
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: be proven that the Bengals got it right or got

1035
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 2: it wrong? Did they get it right in not having

1036
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: plans for Trey to be on the team twenty twenty six,

1037
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven and beyond, did they get it right?

1038
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: And is Trey Hendrickson going to age poorly or his

1039
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: best years truly behind him?

1040
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: Or is he going to have a transformative year?

1041
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: Is he going to have this sort of season that

1042
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: defies what the Bengals expected? And he plays every game

1043
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: and he has a huge sack total, and he's one

1044
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: of the key reasons why the Ravens go deep into

1045
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: the postseason. We will see I'd rather see it firsthand,

1046
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: see if they got it right by watching the Bengals

1047
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: play against them.

1048
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: Twice.

1049
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Look, he was gonna go somewhere, even if the market

1050
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: for him didn't quite materialize the way he had hoped,

1051
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: he was gonna go somewhere. So let's let's let's see it.

1052
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: Let's see how they.

1053
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: Do against him.

1054
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: And if you're worried about Trey Hendrickson sacking Joe Burrow, well,

1055
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: there's a reason why you're paying Orlando Brown a ton

1056
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: of money. And there's a reason why you've invested in

1057
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: a Marius Mims. There's a reason why we're we're bullish

1058
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: on the Bengals offensive line because it's supposed to be

1059
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: this year actually good. So block the guy you invested

1060
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: in your two tackles, mainly Trey is obviously an edge.

1061
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: You invested in those two guys for a reason. Block

1062
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: elite pass rushers. Block guys like Trey Hendrickson. Like we

1063
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: are all fans of winning first and foremost, but I'm

1064
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 2: also a fan of interesting. Trey Hendrickson here playing in

1065
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Baltimore is more interesting than him playing for I don't know,

1066
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys of the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1067
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: or the Jacksonville Jaguars of the Carolina Panthers or the

1068
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, which is where obviously a lot of people

1069
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna go.

1070
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of interesting. I want to win.

1071
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: Okay, beat the Ravens with Trey Hendrickson. The Bengals have

1072
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: decided his best years are behind him. Okay, prove it

1073
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: by blocking him. Prove it by not allowing him to

1074
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: wreck your game plan or hurt your quarterback. Trey Hendrickson

1075
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: will play in Cincinnati for the Ravens. Fan reaction gonna

1076
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: be interesting. I'm sure we're gonna do the whole like

1077
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: should he be boots? Should he be cheered? And I'd

1078
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: cheer the guy. I probably will cheer the guy. I'm

1079
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 2: a body of work guy. Now, we've had a lot

1080
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: of fun with Trey Hendrickson, and I know there are

1081
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: others who feel the same way. I don't like how

1082
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: he handled the last year plus here and best free

1083
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: agent signing in the history of the franchise. That goes

1084
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it goes without saying. But it's that's

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Speaker 2: a conclusion that a lot of us have arrived at

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Speaker 2: that his time in Cincinnati is smashing success individually into

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00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: a degree from a team perspective, because he was. He

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: exceeded everybody's expectations, and certainly you will find Bengals fans

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: who wish he was still here. But in the last

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00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: year or so, the whining about the contract that he

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Speaker 2: had just recently signed, him going public with his beef

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: with what Zach Taylor had texted him, him showing up

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: at practice and conducting a pseudo press conference mere feet

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00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: away from where his teammates were working out, the gripes

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00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: about him never being a captain, like it just it

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00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 2: all got to be a bit much. Trey Hendrickson, as

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00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: marvelous of a player as he was, it just he

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00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: got to be kind of a cartoon character over the

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you disagree, but you know, there's him being a villain.

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00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesse Bates is with the Falcons, and you know,

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 2: it's interesting to see how he's done. He's been great,

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: not a villain. Sports are more fun when they're characters.

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00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals twice a year is

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00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 2: more of a character than him playing for a team

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00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: that might play the Bengals once or twice during the

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00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: course of his time with that team. Him playing them

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: in high stakes games, hopefully for the Baltimore Ravens. Awesome,

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: Let's do it. That's a fun wrinkle. Sports are more

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00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: fun when there are fun wrinkles. And if you're terrified

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00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: that they're not going to win games because Trey Hendrickson

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: is going to destroy their offense, well then you believe

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: the Bengals have bigger offensive line issues than they do.

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00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: So let's do it. Man, Trey and Baltimore. I think

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 3: it's awesome. Let's go.

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00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: More storylines, more characters, more people who matter to fans,

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00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: playing in games that matter to fans. What does he

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: tray with the Seattle Seahawks or some team like that,

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: There's no better way to see if they got it

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: right with the player than playing frequently against the player.

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: Let's go. Sports are more fun when there are villains.

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00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: This UC game would be more fun if if Dadae

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Speaker 2: Thomas had just made that three fifty one forty four,

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Speaker 2: four thirty to go a quarter after five at Moeger

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Speaker 2: I got to get to a poll question at some

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Speaker 2: point here in just a bit. I think the Bearcats

1129
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: got away with a foul that's going the other way.

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Speaker 2: That's going the other way. Offensive foul. Bob and Miller

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: has had a tough game, but I think he just

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: took an offensive foul. We got to spend a few

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Speaker 2: minutes on Hunter Green, who is apparently having the procedure

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Speaker 2: today to take out the bone spurs, take out the

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Speaker 2: bone chips. By the way, Matt McClain another home run today.

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Speaker 2: It's batting close to six hundred this spring. He is

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: knocking to back close to six hundred when the real

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Speaker 2: games begin. But if you were hoping for an encouraging

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Speaker 2: spring from Matt mc lane, you're getting it. The Hunter

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: Green weirdness we touched on a little bit yesterday. We'll

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Speaker 2: spend a few more minutes on and then we'll talk

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Speaker 2: Twenty after five o'clock ESPN fifteen thirty Moeger. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: check you with Tony Pike at the Holy Grail, very

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01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: very close to the conclusion of.

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Speaker 3: The UC game.

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: The Bearcats are up by three points, standing by in

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Speaker 2: just a second. Our friend, doctor Jonathan Slaughter from Ortho

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01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: Sincy on Hunter Green, who's obviously gonna miss at least

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01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: half of the season with the bone ships in his elbow.

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01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: I root hard for Hunter Green.

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01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: Like I've talked before, if I'm not too old to

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: have a favorite player, he's my favorite player. And I've

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: I've been accused of being a Hunter Green apologist, which

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01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm not. He's always to me come off as an

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01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: easy guy to root for and somebody who I think

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01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: is when he's at his best, he's really fun to watch.

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01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot, it feels like happening behind the

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01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: scenes that we don't know, and none of us should

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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: be irresponsible in draw conclusions that were not qualified to draw,

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 2: and I think some are going to take this to

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: the degree that Hunter doesn't like baseball, that sort of thing,

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01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: like he's hurt a lot, and when athletes get hurt

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: a lot, unfortunately, those narratives grow. But I do think

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: it's it's fair to just take a take a step

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: back and look at what's happened with Hunter and the

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: Reds for the last couple of years and just wonder

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: why things have gotten so weird.

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01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: If you just go back to.

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01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Last year during the summer, all the conjecture over the

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01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: frustrations in regards to, you know, him slow playing his

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01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: return from injury. I mean that was a topic in

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: the middle of the summer last year when it was

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: taking longer than I think a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Were hoping for.

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01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: As Jalen Selstein hits a three, when it was taking

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01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: longer than a lot of people were hoping for for

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: him to come back from his groin injury, cats are

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: up by six, and then there was there was trade

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: chatter this offseason, and I'm not sure any of it

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: was really substantive, but there was trade chatter, and it

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: never really felt like a deal was going to get done.

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Speaker 2: But it also didn't feel like baseless fan speculation or

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01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: baseless media speculation.

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Speaker 3: It felt like there was a little there there.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, Hunter starts spring training and he's

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Speaker 2: talking about feeling like his his character was defamed. He

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Speaker 2: clearly was agitated, maybe deservedly so. He clearly was hurt,

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Speaker 2: maybe deservedly so. But he's he's doing this while he

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Speaker 2: was apparently dealing with elbow soreness. How's weird? Like all

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01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: those things are weird. And then the current conversation about

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: the timing of the procedure, what the Reds knew about

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: his elbow soreness, what he may or may not have disclosed,

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01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: Like just confusion, weirdness, and so like maybe there is

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: absolutely no disconnect between the team and the picture. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I hope that's the case. And God knows, If Hunter

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Speaker 2: comes back and pitches great and helps the Reds get

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Speaker 2: to the postseason and then can go on a long

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Speaker 2: stretch of not being injured, not missing time, the conversation

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Speaker 2: will change and a lot of the weirdness of the

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01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: last year eight to ten months will go away. But

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Speaker 2: it just feels like everything between one of the faces

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01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: of the franchise and the franchise itself is a little

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: off and a little weird and a little disconnected. And

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01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 2: as relationships go, when there's awkwardness and weirdness and there's

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Speaker 2: a disconnect, those relationships tend to.

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Speaker 3: Tend to unravel. I hope that doesn't happen with Hunter Green.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk with one of the experts, one of the

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Speaker 2: doctors from Ortho Sincy Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. The great

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: thing about Ortho Sincy is they have specialist locations and

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Speaker 2: services all over the Tri State, including walking orthopedic urgent

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Speaker 2: care at five locations with extended evening and weekend hours

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Speaker 2: in Edgewood and Anderson. Learn more at orthosinc dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's Ortho ci Ncy dot com. Doctor Jonathan Slaughter from

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Speaker 2: Ortho Sincy is with us. So a lot of people

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01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: have said this, he gets the PRP injection at the

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01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: outset of the off season instead of the procedure that

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Speaker 2: he's having, and so forget that he should have had

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Speaker 2: the procedure that he's having earlier in the off season

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Speaker 2: so he wouldn't have to miss any time in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Is that from your perspective? Is that a

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Speaker 2: fair way of looking at things from a fans perspective.

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Speaker 12: It's a tough question and it comes down to where

1235
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 12: this is where medicine is really an art. And then

1236
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 12: when you're a sports doctor, it can complicate things because

1237
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 12: now you have to figure out the timing not just

1238
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 12: of the injury, but of the season and where they're at.

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01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 12: And so when he had this bone spurs and his

1240
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 12: elbow with some loose bodies, you think, well, can we

1241
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 12: treat this non operatively avoid the risk of surgery, And

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01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 12: that's what they kind of talked about and decided to try.

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Speaker 12: Could we do this peer p get the inflammation down,

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 12: maybe get some healing of it to where the we

1245
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 12: don't have to undergo surgery. The problem is when that fails,

1246
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 12: now the next step is the surgical procedure, and the

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 12: timeline is also thrown off.

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Speaker 2: So having the surgery today, let's talk about the timeline

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 2: that has sort of been big part of the public discourse.

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: I guess fourteen to sixteen weeks. What will those roughly

1251
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: three or four months look like for Hunter Green?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, the first six weeks is basically just healing, recovery,

1253
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 12: getting inflammation down, and maintaining motion and building strength, so

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 12: basically not picking up a ball. By six weeks. If

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01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 12: you's got good motion strength and the swelling and inflammation

1256
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 12: is down, that's when you start a throwing program that

1257
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 12: would start just flat ground light, lossing variable degrees of

1258
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 12: distance as well as effort. Once you progress through the

1259
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 12: flat phase, you then go up to the mound, starting

1260
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 12: light effort, fastballs, progress up and the amount of pitches,

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 12: the amount of effort and strength, as well as mixing

1262
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 12: in the other pitches that he.

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Speaker 2: Has once he gets back to maximum level throwing. Whenever

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: that is, is there a risk of the bone chips

1265
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: reforming or there being some sort of aggravation of the

1266
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: injury that could further delay his return and maybe put

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01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: his entire season in jeopardy.

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Speaker 12: With this injury, it's called vougus extension overload, where when

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01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 12: the elbow goes through a vougus stress, which is what

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01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 12: you experience with throwing, and your arm goes into extension

1271
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 12: at the end of the pitch, you get increased force

1272
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 12: on the inside of the elbow and wolf slull is

1273
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 12: what we discuss in orthopedics, where the bone reacts to

1274
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 12: external stress and it builds more bone in that area.

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 12: And that's how you develop these bone spurs or what

1276
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 12: we call osteophytes. He's going to continue to exert this

1277
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 12: stress through pitching and he can redevelop those. Now I

1278
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 12: doubt he would redevelop those in this year, but that

1279
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 12: could be a future worry of developing more bone spurs,

1280
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 12: and then those bone spurs can break and that's how

1281
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 12: those loose bodies develop.

1282
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: Hunter Green throws hard, and so when you talk about

1283
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: his max effort, that means getting it up there one

1284
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour even more. I know you're not

1285
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: a pitching coach, you're a doctor. But from a medical

1286
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: professionals perspective, is there a suggestion that he either changed

1287
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: his mechanics or just not throws hard.

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Speaker 12: From a medical perspective, you would always say you want

1289
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 12: to avoid this stress that's causing the issue. Well, pitching

1290
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 12: creates that stress, so he's not going to be able

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 12: to fully avoid the stress that causes these bone spurs.

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Speaker 12: And he's at the elite level. He's one of the

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 12: top pitchers, so his form as is is that an

1294
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 12: elite form. He might make minor adjustments which I would

1295
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 12: leave to the professional pitching coaches, but Overall, I don't

1296
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 12: see him changing much of what got him to where

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Speaker 12: he is.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green is as awesome as he is when he

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: is healthy. Has now a very extensive injury history, Tommy

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: John surgery, a shoulder problem in twenty twenty to a

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01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: hip issue in twenty twenty three, elbow and growing twenty

1302
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty twenty five, and now this, How

1303
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: much is just the cumulative effect a concern here when

1304
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: it comes to Hunter.

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Speaker 12: A lot of it can also just be mental, the

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Speaker 12: mental effect of almost every year being on the il,

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 12: the toll it can take mentally. Again, he's an elite

1308
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 12: athlete with elite trainers put in his body through maximum stress.

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 12: But it's one of those do you call him injury prone? Well,

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 12: once you start getting all these injuries, you know he

1311
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 12: might be what you would call injury prone. But I

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01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 12: don't think there's anything biological to say, yeah, this is

1313
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 12: why he keeps getting these injuries.

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01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: Well, but because I you know, I always think that's

1315
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: the most fascinating part of this, right because as fans,

1316
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 2: we go while he's injury prone, and I think often

1317
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: luck is involved. But I always do wonder if there's

1318
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: something physiological or biological that would suggest that maybe a

1319
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 2: guy like Hunter just isn't going to have the sort

1320
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: of long career that so many of us hope he's

1321
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: going to have.

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01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 12: Nothing biological. I think most of it is luck. I

1323
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 12: think part of it is just the rigors of one

1324
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 12: hundred and sixty plus games schedule or one hundred and

1325
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 12: sixty two game schedule, as well as off season training

1326
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 12: and what's demanded of them.

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: One more And this kind of goes back to something

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 2: you and I talked about last week. He was feeling

1329
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: discomfort before spring training, but he still threw, still appeared

1330
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: in a game. We'd love to go back in time,

1331
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: I guess. But when a picture, whether it's at this

1332
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: level or at the amateur level, is feeling that discomfort

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: from where you sit, how much do you recommend, Look,

1334
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: don't get on the mound, don't pick up a ball,

1335
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: don't throw. Let's look at this before we incur further

1336
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Speaker 2: risk of something even more drastic than what we're dealing

1337
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Speaker 2: with here.

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Speaker 10: Big time.

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Speaker 12: So I even just this weekend we had the Anderson

1340
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 12: Little League managers meeting, and as a safety officer, I

1341
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 12: was telling him, look, if your kid has elbow pain.

1342
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 12: Best thing you can do for them is shutting down.

1343
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 12: From a thrilling perspective. It doesn't mean you can't do

1344
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 12: other baseball related activities, but at the first sign of inflammation,

1345
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 12: the best thing you can do is rest at I sit,

1346
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 12: take anti inflammatories, get the inflammation down. If that pain

1347
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 12: continues after getting inflammation down, that's when you investigate further.

1348
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Speaker 3: Makes total sense.

1349
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Speaker 2: I appreciate the insight consecutive weeks, doctor Jonathan Slaughter from

1350
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Speaker 2: a Ortho Sinsey. Appreciate the time we will chat.

1351
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure soon, Thank you, Mom.

1352
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: Allight awesome expertise from doctor Jonathan Slaughter from Orthos Sinc.

1353
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Speaker 3: I say this every week because it's true.

1354
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Speaker 2: The great thing about Ortho Sinsey is they have specialists

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Speaker 2: and locations all over the Tri State. This includes walk

1356
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Speaker 2: in orthopedic urgent care weekdays from nine am to nine

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Speaker 2: pm at on Saturdays nine am to one pm at

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Speaker 2: both Edgewood and Anderson. It's easy because you don't need

1359
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Speaker 2: an appointment. It's definitely cheaper than going to an er.

1360
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Speaker 2: Whenever you have an urgent orthopedic injury, go to Orthosinsey

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Speaker 2: dot com. That's Ortho ci Ncy dot com Taren, how

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: would we describe the last ninety seconds or so of

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: gameplay and regulation in Kansas City?

1364
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:55,919
Speaker 3: His poor management.

1365
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: They just collapsed, you see, took an eight point lead

1366
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: with two seconds to go. I'm sorry, with a two

1367
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: seventeen to go. Their next possessions, I don't think they've

1368
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: gotten a shot up since there's been a ten second violation,

1369
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: there have been turnovers. There have been turnovers while the

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01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: Bearcats had three timeouts. They have the ball in the

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01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 2: last possession and Wes Miller calls timeout. They put six

1372
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: tenths of a second more back on the clock, but

1373
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: they nearly had a They nearly dribbled the clock out

1374
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: without getting a shot off. There are point eight seconds

1375
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: to go. It's been an eight zip run over the

1376
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: last two and change for UCF. The game was not one,

1377
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: but UCF made it fifty eight to fifty two to

1378
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: two oh sex to go, two o six to go.

1379
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: Jisel had a turnover, UCF scored off of it. Then

1380
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: a ten second violation. Over the course of an entire season,

1381
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: how many ten second violations do you see? And the

1382
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: ten second violation occurred with the Bearcats having three three

1383
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 2: timeouts in their back pocket, UCF gets the ball, they score,

1384
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: then Dade Thomas throws the ball away, UCF gets it,

1385
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: they score, and Data has just missed a three point

1386
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,480
Speaker 2: shot at the end of regulation, So we're going to overtime.

1387
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 2: Tied at fifty eight. There's no other way to put

1388
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: that but a meltdown. They may still win this game,

1389
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 2: but unfortunately what just happened over the last two minutes

1390
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: is way too emblematic of the way the Bearcats played

1391
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: in so many close games in November, December and January.

1392
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Tony Pike at the Holy Grail,

1393
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 2: which will be fun for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Next on ESPN fifteen.

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: shot two and a half to go. You see trails

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,560
Speaker 2: by two sixty four to sixty two. They're in overtime

1414
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: after the Bearcats bleue an eight point lead with just

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: over two.

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01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: Minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: It goes without saying, regardless of what you feel like

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: will happen. If Cincinnati wins today and loses tomorrow, they

1419
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: must win today.

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: There's no getting around it.

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 2: And frankly, this entire the entire season has occurred against

1422
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: the backdrop of questions about Wes Miller's job security and

1423
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: whether or not he's going to be the coach next season.

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: If the NCAA tournament hopes get burst, the bubble gets

1425
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: burst by a loss today that occurred the way it

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01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: did today. If you thought the screams were allowed before.

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01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I believe UCF is going to the free

1428
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 2: throw line with just over two minutes to go leading

1429
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: by two. All right, a couple of other things, and

1430
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: then we're supposed to check it with Tony Pike at

1431
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: the ceremonial keg tapping at the Holy Grail. Kentucky won

1432
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 2: earlier today in the SEC Tournament eighty seven to eighty

1433
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: two Xavier and Marquette. Tonight Biggie's Tournament. We'll get to

1434
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 2: all that here in justin bit a't Saint Patrick's Day

1435
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 2: week at the Banks and the Saint Patrick's Day Parade

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: on Saturday features this year's Grand Marshall, my colleague, my friend,

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: and right now my my brother in angst Tony Pike.

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: He's at the Holy Grail right now for the ceremonial

1439
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: keg tapping. Tony, what is the mood right now at

1440
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: the Holy Grail? What's your mood like?

1441
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: Right now?

1442
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 13: It feels like the uh, the mood of the Bearcat

1443
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 13: point guards for about the last ten minutes.

1444
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: Of the game. Down by one day with a three.

1445
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 8: Day, they's done.

1446
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 13: It's it's a joyous atmosphere. I would have been a

1447
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 13: lot more joyous if the Bearcats put a punctuation on

1448
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 13: H on this game and punch their ticking in tomorrow.

1449
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 13: But it's a good crowd, it's a it's obviously a

1450
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 13: great environment. Should be fun here tonight.

1451
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 2: All right, what what happens starting at six o'clock beyond

1452
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: you hopefully celebrating the Bearcats advancing to uh to the

1453
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: next round against Arizona.

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 13: Oh, well, we've got uh. We're gonna have some bagpipes,

1455
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,919
Speaker 13: We're gonna have some cloggers, We're gonna have the ceremony,

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 13: ceremonial Guinness tag capping. Mo, We're gonna tap a tag

1457
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 13: of Guinness, and uh, we're gonna enjoy some Guinness usually

1458
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 13: term split the g things like that. And then I

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01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 13: believe there's a toast involved at some point that I'm

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01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 13: gonna have to give so it all gets underway at

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 13: six o'clock. The toast can either go one of two

1462
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 13: ways based on how the last fifty five seconds of.

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: The pouring aguinness. There's like an art to that. Have

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: you been given specific instructions?

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, So I'm gonna pour it about three quarters of

1466
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 13: the way up. You're gonna have to let it settle

1467
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 13: for about thirty seconds and then you're gonna have to

1468
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 13: finish the poor and get that nice foam on the top.

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh all right, So you'll be there tonight tapping the keg.

1470
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,879
Speaker 2: It gets underway at six o'clock. If if you see

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: doesn't win this game, because I can't imagine being in

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01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,959
Speaker 2: your shoes there, because if they lose this game, honestly,

1473
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 2: like I'm just I might just lock myself in this

1474
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: studio and call home and say I'll see tomorrow. Should

1475
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: we just tell people to leave you alone when it

1476
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 2: comes to the game itself? Come by, say hi, talk

1477
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: about the show, talk about your career, but let's leave

1478
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: the game itself alone.

1479
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Speaker 13: Yeah, if you're gonna make it down here and this

1480
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 13: thing doesn't go well, do not mention the game. I

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01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 13: got a little bit of a re free today Kentucky

1482
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 13: Basketball one, which means unfortunately no since he three sixty tomorrow,

1483
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 13: so I won't have to rehash this for three hours

1484
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 13: on the air tomorrow, So please don't make me rehash

1485
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 13: it tonight.

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 8: Let's be festive.

1487
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 13: Let's let's kick off Saint Patrick's Day and have a

1488
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 13: good night.

1489
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: And how stoked are you for Saturday, being the Grand

1490
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 2: Marshal of the Saint Patty's Day Parade.

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01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 8: It's it's pretty cool.

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 13: It's a it's a parade. Obviously, being Irish on my

1493
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 13: mom's side of the family, it's something we used to

1494
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 13: come to. So, knowing how big of a of an

1495
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 13: event it is in Cincinnati, knowing how Cincinnati always shows up,

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 13: it's always fun. I'm super excited.

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01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: All right, do you want to watch the final this

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01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: final sequence together?

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 13: All right, I'm a little ahead of you, so I

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01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 13: know I'm gonna tell you what what's what's coming up?

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: Isn't good?

1502
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 13: Out of a time.

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: Out on the on the right wing, and he he

1504
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: throws it right.

1505
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 3: To UCS how out of a time out? Out of

1506
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: a time out? All right? So, so UCF has the ball.

1507
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: There's about a twelve thirteen twelve second differential between game

1508
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: clock and shot clock. The Bearcats U seef has a timeout,

1509
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: you see, has a time out. Oh god, ten seconds

1510
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: on the shot clock. Oh that doesn't sound good. That

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: doesn't sound good at all.

1512
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: Four to shoot.

1513
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 2: Here's Coogler with a drive. His shot is no good,

1514
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: rebounded by Chom's got it. Chim's got at Cincinnati Are

1515
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: we calling time out? Are we calling time out? Pass

1516
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: ahead to Celestine free from the wing, grazes the front

1517
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: of the rim, Cincinnati commits a foul, UCF is gonna

1518
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: shoot one point three seconds to go.

1519
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 13: I don't know, maybe take the time out.

1520
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 11: Maybe.

1521
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 13: I guess it's not bad because you got to look

1522
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 13: in transition. But it's just what a what a dagger

1523
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 13: of a way to end such a disappointing basketball season.

1524
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: I'm calling a time out there, and I understand, like, hey,

1525
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: let them play, don't let uc F said their defense,

1526
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: don't let them sub. But with the way things unfolded

1527
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: and all those possessions at the end of regulation, with

1528
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: as bad as they've been with the ball that is,

1529
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: that was close to their twentieth turnover.

1530
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: I am I'm drawing something up.

1531
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 13: They had three three turnovers from the point guards and

1532
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 13: had three time outs left, just absolute meltdown by Look,

1533
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 13: Gisel and Data are veteran guys. You've got to count

1534
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 13: on those guys in march.

1535
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: But you, uh, you watch you watch a ton of

1536
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: college basketball. How many ten second violations do you see?

1537
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 13: Not many. I also don't see the point guard usually

1538
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 13: giving the ball up to your center at the top

1539
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 13: of the key with three seconds left in regulation, just

1540
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 13: nothing going to the basket, no aggressiveness, just frustrating on

1541
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 13: all accounts. All right, I let them off tomorrow.

1542
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: Do you wanna do you wanna? Do you wanna fil

1543
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: you want to fail? If you've you've missed a lot,

1544
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: there's been a lot going on. The first free throw

1545
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 2: is no good. Yeah, you're ahead of me. You're laughing,

1546
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: you're you. It's a sinister laugh. So you know you

1547
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 2: know how this ends? Yeah, all right, still Wells, still

1548
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: Wells at the free throw line for the the second

1549
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: of two UCF was in the double bonus. The second

1550
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: free throw is in the air. What we're doing is

1551
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: probably illegal. The ball is tipped, it gets chased down

1552
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: by Celestine, the clock expires. Cincinnati's NCAA tournament hopes go

1553
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: up and smoke on a game that that, frankly, was

1554
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 2: reflective of so many that the Bearcats lost earlier this season. Tony,

1555
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: have fun tonight. We'll tell people to come see at

1556
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: the grail and enjoy your day off tomorrow. All right, No,

1557
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I we have what we call

1558
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: in this business counter programming, right, which we often do it.

1559
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: We often do it when the Reds are playing a

1560
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: day game, where it's like, all right, you gotta do

1561
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: Bengal stuff. I don't. I think I've built up enough equity.

1562
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: And if you're in the audience, you know I love

1563
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: UC basketball. I don't know how good of a last

1564
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of the show that was. But I don't

1565
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 2: know that I could do justice what I just watched,

1566
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 2: but I will try. Tarren, how are we on time?

1567
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: I know we skipped a break there. How we how

1568
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: are we doing on time?

1569
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 3: We have about three minutes left in the show, so.

1570
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have time to hear from anybody in

1571
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: Kansas City. It's gonna say, spend the next two minutes

1572
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 2: calling Chad Brendle. Chad's on the show on Thursdays. That'll

1573
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: that'll be fun. UC took the lead with just over

1574
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: two minutes to go and then proceeded. I'm not sure

1575
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: they I don't know that they got a shot off

1576
01:22:54,520 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: in the final two minutes of regulation. And the way

1577
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: the Bearcats have played over the last month has been

1578
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: really good, and then they've they've entered the conversation to

1579
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: be in the tournament. But what put them such behind

1580
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: the eight ball, what put them in the position that

1581
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: they've been playing from behind for weeks has been the

1582
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: fact that there were so many games where down the stretch,

1583
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: games that were there for the taking, they either melted

1584
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: down or just didn't make the play or stop scoring

1585
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: or turned it over.

1586
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: Whatever it was.

1587
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: Today looked like pick your worst version of that from

1588
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: back in January or back in December.

1589
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 3: Today took the cake.

1590
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: And you know, I've been asked fifteen times a day

1591
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: for the last couple of weeks, like what's going to

1592
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: happen with Wes? Because a month ago it felt like

1593
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: he was a dead man walking. A month ago it

1594
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: felt like it was almost inevitable. And then with every

1595
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: single win and the closer they've played themselves to the bubble,

1596
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: it feels like there's been some degree of momentum for

1597
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: him to keep his job. And now I kind of

1598
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: felt like, dude, lose to Utah and conversation shifts again.

1599
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: They didn't losing today in the manner in which they did,

1600
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: where some very legitimate strategic decisions are going to be

1601
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 2: discussed deep into the night. Today did not help Wes Miller.

1602
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: It most definitely did not help him in the court

1603
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: of public opinion, and it is fair to wonder what

1604
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: today did for the people who are making decisions about

1605
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: his future. All I will say is this, because we're

1606
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: going to have a lot of time to talk about

1607
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: this tomorrow. Whatever they do, do it quick. Timing's important here. Unfortunately,

1608
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: our time is up sixty six to sixty five. The

1609
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: final score an absolute meltdown. There's no other way to

1610
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 2: put it, an absolutely meltdown. I appreciate you putting up

1611
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: with this. We did some other stuff that I thought

1612
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: was okay. We'll have more time tomorrow. UK Hoops will

1613
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,879
Speaker 2: put us on the air a little bit before four o'clock.

1614
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Robert Wintraub's on the show. We'll do some FC Cincinnati

1615
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots

1616
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: of Chad Brundle. Have a great night. Thanks to Tarren

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