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Speaker 2: some NFL. Let's talk some Cincinnati Bengals. There has been

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Speaker 2: the next segment we'll expand this to an NFL as

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Speaker 2: a whole segment. But for the Bengals alone, Let's start

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Speaker 2: with the move to bring back Orlando Brown junior two

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Speaker 3: It does lower the cap hit this year.

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Speaker 2: This is a move I guess I can get behind

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Speaker 2: if we're talking about O line depth, but I can't

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Speaker 2: help but think here often the last time we spoke,

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Speaker 2: we talked about Orlando Brown Junior potentially being the weak

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Speaker 2: spot to address on the offensive line if the Bengals

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Speaker 2: could get their work done leading up to the draft,

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Speaker 2: maybe it would allow them if there's a tackle there

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Speaker 3: Twofold.

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Speaker 2: Here does that change with the Orlando Brown Junior extension?

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Speaker 2: And how do you feel about the extension itself. I

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Speaker 2: didn't really have much of a reaction to Orlando Brown

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Speaker 2: that's cool. Lower the cappit a little bit, kick the

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Speaker 2: I think I would most people would agree with you

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Speaker 2: offensive line in which you probably had the least faith

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Speaker 2: by the time the end of the year. World around

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Speaker 2: last year, He's okay, he's fine. I think he needs

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Speaker 2: We had that conversation earlier this offseason. So this deal

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Speaker 2: kind of works for both sides. He gets the assurance

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Speaker 2: if they are between multiple guys coming up in the draft,

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Speaker 2: they still need to address the depth of that position.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut up about it all offseason, but

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Speaker 2: and virtually eliminates the idea of the Bengals taking a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think, if anything, it does eliminate tackle off the board.

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Speaker 2: The other move that the Bengals have made. Defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen is a Cincinnati Bengal on a two year,

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Speaker 2: twenty six million dollar deal. The deal can be up

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Speaker 2: to twenty eight million dollars with incentives. Jonathan Allen is

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Speaker 2: thirty one years old. He was a cap casualty of

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Speaker 2: he is a guy who's done this over a long

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Speaker 4: What it means that they were thinking about their compensatory

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Speaker 4: I think some would argue was not necessarily a scheme

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Speaker 2: So let's take an inventory of where things are at.

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Speaker 2: They've added I would call Austin three solid players on

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Speaker 3: Would you agree, yes, good fits.

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Speaker 2: They did lose their most proven pass rusher, Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, without a doubt, the most frustrating part of

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Speaker 4: according to Paul Danner Junior's reporting this morning in the

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Speaker 4: with Moe this afternoon on his show instead of the

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Speaker 4: normal Tuesday spot. According to Paul, the Bengals were never

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Speaker 4: interested in Caden Ellis or leo' chanel, which is mind

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Speaker 4: boggling considering the words that were coming from the Bengals,

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Speaker 4: both Duke Tobin and Al Golden and others at the

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Speaker 4: That doesn't add up, and so I don't understand why

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Speaker 4: that was the case. And then additionally, the way the

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Speaker 4: And that's what the Bengals have done. Brian Cook, Boye Mafe.

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Speaker 4: Those dudes have insane year one cap pits, much larger

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Speaker 4: defense isn't good enough. Let me let me play dumb here,

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Speaker 4: Let me play just a situation. Explain it to me

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Speaker 2: I watch quarterbacks across the National Football League constantly restructuring

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Speaker 2: that with Joe Burrow. They've not done it with anybody,

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Speaker 2: I'm an infant? Why no, I can't. It's inexplicable like this,

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Speaker 2: This is a free strategy to use that other teams

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. It's it's very easy

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's not like it requires a you know,

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's okay with this, right? Yeah? Burrow has He's

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Speaker 4: I think it was last year during the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, if we need to do that, we'll

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Speaker 4: do that. I want to do that. Like, and if

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Speaker 4: you're Burrow, of course you can sign the paper and

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why you don't do it. I don't either.

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Speaker 2: Every it's almost like a yearly routine at this point. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's guess the date when Patrick Mahomes is going to

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Speaker 2: restructure to free up money for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yep,

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Speaker 2: go up and down the list on a team that

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Speaker 2: desperately needs help. And as you mentioned, Austin has frontloaded

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Speaker 2: Here's a way to free up some of those dollars. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you don't have to twist your quarterback's arm to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because it is. And like, you know, the

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Speaker 4: whole idea of trading for Max Crosby, I think that's

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Speaker 4: reality if they were to restructure Joe Burrow's contract, Like

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Speaker 4: that could immediately become a realistic possibility if they restructure

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Speaker 4: Joe's contract, And basically so people understand. The restructure is

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Speaker 4: you take the money that's supposed to be a part

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Speaker 4: and goes directly into Joe's wallache. And the other thing

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Speaker 4: there that exists that the Bengals are cash poor. That's

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Speaker 4: not true. That's a fallacy. They have plenty of cash.

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, the NFL is about the

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Speaker 4: renegotiated deal with CBS, that's going to be billions and

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Speaker 4: billions of dollars and that's all part of the league's

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Speaker 4: The league writes them a check for three hundred and

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Speaker 4: The Bengals are not cash poor. I can promise you

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Speaker 4: that the way they choose to do business severely limits

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Speaker 3: And it's a shame like it really is.

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Speaker 4: And it's why the whole Duke Tobin's the quote about

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Speaker 4: them being all in It's why he's so full of crap.

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Speaker 4: And anybody on that organization who tells you they're all

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Speaker 4: the things that they could be doing to actually be

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Speaker 2: I know what we think. Do you think there are

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Speaker 2: they've done enough defensively to this point? I bet there

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Speaker 2: are yes, because you and I are an agreement. They

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Speaker 2: haven't no good moves, good pieces, not clearly enough. The

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Speaker 4: They have no depth on the defensive line, They have

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Speaker 4: no depth in the linebacker room. They don't even have

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Speaker 2: And this is all overshadowed by something Joe Burrow said

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Speaker 2: about this season is quote paramount. This offseason is paramount.

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Speaker 2: And again they've done some good stuff Dalton Reisner, the

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson situation, because they they made the right football move.

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Speaker 2: But in doing so you do lose your proven pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: You brought in now three good players on defense, solid players,

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Speaker 2: but the cap hits are atrocious, and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: while every other quarterback restructures their deal. The Bengals will

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Speaker 2: not do that with Joe Burrow. So at this point

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Speaker 2: March sixteenth, how do you rate the off season?

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Speaker 3: See? Okay, I think it's D plus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's And that's not to take away from Boye

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Speaker 4: Mafe and Brian Cook's so much to do, not even

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Speaker 2: on X over the break Austin from Rob Johnson, He says,

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Speaker 2: can you explain how front loading money is bad? Understand

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Speaker 2: teams that were maybe in the market on Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: now get passed up by the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Just a weird, weird.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four hours across the National Football League, and at

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Speaker 2: the end of it, Trey Hendrickson ends up a Baltimore Raven.

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Speaker 2: He's excited, he says, for a fresh start, but it

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Speaker 2: brings another valuable and good pass rusher to the AFC North.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it does much different. We had the

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Speaker 2: conversation about going against Max Crosby and TJ. Watt and

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. Now you just take out Max Crosby and

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Speaker 2: throw Trey Hendrickson in the conversation. It's a challenge, and

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Speaker 2: I think more importantly for Baltimore they keep those first

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Speaker 2: round picks. What did you make of the way this

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Speaker 2: deal or no deal went down with Crosby. I think

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Speaker 2: it stinks to high heaven Well. I think the Ravens

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Speaker 2: knew about the medical issues with Max Crosby and with

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Speaker 2: his knee, and once they realized that it might be

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Speaker 2: a little bit longer than they thought, and that they

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Speaker 2: were giving up two first round picks, and that the

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Speaker 2: narrative for the most part was wow, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: a team actually gave up two first round picks. The

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Speaker 2: reason that deal happened is because Baltimore was the only

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Speaker 2: team who was willing to do that based off of

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby's medicals. The Ravens talked to the doctors, they

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Speaker 2: did all that, they knew it, and I think they

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Speaker 2: had a change of heart once they got to Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: I do believe, though, honestly, that they were going to

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Speaker 2: try to get Crosby and Hendrickson. I believe that because

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Speaker 2: when you look at Hendrickson's contract, it's basically two years

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Speaker 2: for sixty million dollars. Yeah, that's very affordable, even with

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Speaker 2: adding Max Crosby to the situation. And so I do

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Speaker 2: think they were going to try to really evil Empire

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Speaker 2: US there and do that, and good on them for

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Speaker 2: taking a swing, and they just got cold feet, and

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Speaker 2: so they settled for Trey Hendrickson. And you know, I've

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Speaker 2: said it on my podcast and elsewhere. I welcome the

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Speaker 2: challenge of Trey Henderson. He does not strike fear to me,

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Speaker 2: fear in me in any way, shape or form, and

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Speaker 2: I I love it. I think it's a great story.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Bengals and Ravens are gonna

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Speaker 4: play in Primetime again, hopefully this time it's in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the Ravens I thought it was

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Speaker 4: slimy from them, and you know, I know Will Compton

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Speaker 4: shared a story similar to what they did. They were

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Speaker 4: going to sign Ryan Grant, a wide receiver he played

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Speaker 4: with in Washington, and then Michael Crabtree got cut and

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they failed Ryan Grant's physical and

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Speaker 4: he had missed a game in four years. So I

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Speaker 4: think that sort of stuff happens. And you know, Drew

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Speaker 4: Brees famously failed a physical then he went on to

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Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints and was pretty good for a while.

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Speaker 4: I think you know, the Ravens or the Raiders spent

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Speaker 4: what two hundred and eighty north of two hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighty million dollars. Yeah, in agency, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: it's the worst thing in the world to add Max

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Speaker 4: Crosby to that. And I do think there's a chance

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Speaker 4: Max comes back, but I think it's more likely that

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Speaker 4: Max will get traded either around the draft or leading

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Speaker 4: up to training keeps once those medicals will get a

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Speaker 4: little bit more short up to the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: No, what, you give it a zero percent chance? Yes,

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Speaker 3: if I could do negatives, I would.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know that was out there for a while

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Speaker 2: Bengals are going to get Max Crosby. Of course it

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Speaker 2: was Bengals are going to get Max Crosby. Of course

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Speaker 2: it was would you welcome Max Crosby? I would love

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby. Yeah, even with the failed physical.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give up two first round picks

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Speaker 4: for Max Crosby, but I would take Max Crosby on

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Speaker 4: my team right away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now the issue is, you know, he's going to hit

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Speaker 4: the quarterback in practice. We talked about that, keep your

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Speaker 4: hands off my quarterback. But yeah, I would love to

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Speaker 4: have them.

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Speaker 2: Some of the uh, the teams that have been in speculation,

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Speaker 2: the Niners, the Lions, the Bears, there's there's all been

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Speaker 2: a conversation around odds that that team could could be

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Speaker 2: in play. So we'll keep an eye on what happens

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Speaker 2: next to Max Crosby. We'll take our break when we

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Speaker 2: get back a little mock draft Monday of.

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Speaker 3: What if we do a live mock draft? Oh? Any

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Speaker 3: thoughts on that? Sure? O'K? Like next Yeah, let's do it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I have an idea On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hello,

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Speaker 3: this is Titus uh Oh, pick is in.

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Speaker 1: It's time for mock draft Monday on Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what does that mean? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, look a little bit late on a trigger there. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, I want to do a live mock draft. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I like it. So this is on PFF dot com.

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Speaker 4: I have it set to. We are the Bengals and

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Speaker 4: we are going to see how the draft board play

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Speaker 4: out in front of us and make our selection. Okay, together, Okay,

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Speaker 4: are you ready, Let's do it. Okay, We're going to

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Speaker 4: start the draft right now. Fernando Mendoza goes number one.

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Speaker 4: Sunny Styles goes number two to the Jets. Rvel Reese

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Speaker 4: number three to the Arizona Cardinals, Ruben Bain Junior four

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Speaker 4: to the Tennessee Titans. The fifth pick is Francis Malinoa

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Speaker 4: to the New York Giants. The Browns choose David Bailey

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Speaker 4: at pick number six. The Commanders took Jeremiah Love at

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Speaker 4: pick number seven. The Saints picked Mansword Delaane with pick

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Speaker 4: number eighth. The Chiefs picked Caleb Downs with pick number nine,

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Speaker 4: Dirty Dogs. So the Bengals have number ten. No Sunny Styles,

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Speaker 4: no Ruben Bain, no Mansord Delane, no Caleb Downs. This

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Speaker 4: is actually this is a perfect understand chance. Rvil Reese Well,

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Speaker 4: rvel Reese was picked number three. Three best available players

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Speaker 4: according to Profo Tough Carnell Tate, Okay, Dylan Theeneman begin again,

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Speaker 4: Spencer Fano, Monroe Freeling, Kenyan, Sadiq McKay lemon oliviega Ione,

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Speaker 4: Jermad McCoy, c j Allen, Jordan Tyson, a Keem messidor

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Speaker 4: holy moly, your thoughts, Keldric Falk is available, gosh, Cayden McDonald,

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Speaker 4: pan Peter Woods.

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Speaker 2: This is where you would have loved to get like

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Speaker 2: a linebacker off the board, because then I would have

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Speaker 2: opened up the conversation of Carnell Tate right like that

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Speaker 2: would have been a legit conversation.

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Speaker 4: And this is a perfect example of the situation that

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Speaker 4: they've put them.

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Speaker 3: So then do you have to reach again? Correct?

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Speaker 4: You gotta go And and by the way, there are

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Speaker 4: three tackles or two tackles up here that I would

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Speaker 4: take Monroe Freeling, I would take him, Spencer Fanu, I

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Speaker 4: would take him, Dylan Theneman, I would take him.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: But they've addressed the positions and so assuming how they operate, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're not gonna go after it. I would guess if

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Speaker 4: I were guessing who the Bengals would pick here, it

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Speaker 4: would be either Jermad McCoy, the corner from Tennessee, or

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Speaker 4: Peter Woods, the defensive tackle from Clemson.

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Speaker 2: So this so I ran while you were doing that,

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Speaker 2: I did the exact same thing, and I think both

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Speaker 2: of ours would be cause for concern. And the one

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Speaker 2: I did Mendoza one, Bayne two, Styles three, rvel Reaes four,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Downs five, Maui Noahs six, Jeremiah Love seven, David

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Speaker 2: Bailey eight, Spencer and Fano nine. So you get up

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Speaker 2: there and again Mansur Delaine, Carnel Tait, Dylan Thineman, Monroe Freeling.

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Speaker 2: But again you lose that ability to say, well, we

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Speaker 2: need a linebacker. You lose the ability to say, well

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Speaker 2: we need edge rusher. So it comes to the conversation

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Speaker 2: that you and I have outlined many times, Austen, and

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Speaker 2: that is when you get to number ten. Have you

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Speaker 2: done enough between now and then to go take the

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Speaker 2: best player on the board or do you have to

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Speaker 2: chase a position? And if the draft unfolds in the

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Speaker 2: way that it just unfolded for me or for you

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you now go into that conversation

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Speaker 2: of potentially reaching because you need a position more so

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Speaker 2: than the best player, because you haven't done your job.

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Speaker 3: Between now and.

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Speaker 4: Then, I'm going to say I'm going to make the

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Speaker 4: pick on based off what I think the Bengals would

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Speaker 4: do in this situation, and I'm going to draft r

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Speaker 4: Maud McCoy from Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there you go. Okay, that's it, and.

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Speaker 2: Then we're going to have the conversation about a drafting

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Speaker 2: a guy that didn't play it all last year, right

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Speaker 2: right like that, that's going to be the conversation. Regardless

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Speaker 2: of how he turns out or how good he is,

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Speaker 2: the conversation can be where you just took from our

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Speaker 2: Stewart who did no production and now another guy who

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Speaker 2: had zero production in twenty twenty five. Yeah, because you're

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Speaker 2: not taking care of your business. Now our business is

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Speaker 2: being taken care of. We stand on it here on

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Speaker 2: Cincy three, Sickiness Mowagger also a standard of business.

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Speaker 4: Those things are all computer generated. That was literally the

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Speaker 4: perfect scenario for that segment. YEP, shout out to PFF

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 2: Mulwiger's next with quick aits ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 6: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 6: thirty I Hard Radio.

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Speaker 3: From the Baker Heating tempst Our Weather Center. Here's your forecast.

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Speaker 3: This report is sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Well, it's definitely colder.

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Speaker 7: Temperatures continue cooling this afternoon as we see scattered snow

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Speaker 7: showers across the Tri State at times. This will even

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Speaker 7: drop down visibility temperatures Tonight, tullb Beli even more. We're

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Speaker 7: down to eighteen. It's mostly cloudy. It stays mostly cloudy tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Highs only come in at thirty one and with a

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Speaker 7: breezy northwest wind, it'll feel colder all day. That's forecast.

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Speaker 7: I'm nine First Warning Meteorologist Jennifer kesh Mark.

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Speaker 3: Keep here now it's.

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Speaker 1: Time for a quick hits on Tony Pike, Sincy three sixty.

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Speaker 3: I was looking for mo.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. The mo Egger Show comes up next, but

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Speaker 2: he joins us right now for quick hits ahead of

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Speaker 2: a very very busy week with the NCAA tournament getting

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Speaker 2: under ten days till Red's opening day and so much

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Speaker 2: to discuss with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Mo, what's going on? What do you got on the

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Speaker 3: show today?

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Speaker 8: I almost forgot about this part of the day. Yes, well,

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Speaker 8: we haven't done it.

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Speaker 3: While I forgot that we did this last time I

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Speaker 3: talked to you, my heart was ripped out.

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Speaker 8: Usually I'm listening to Tom Leach and Chris Givens put

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Speaker 8: a bow in a seventy five minute postgame show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, huh.

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Speaker 8: Wildcats could have busted home in the time it took

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Speaker 8: from the postgame show to unfold last week.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 8: I'll take it baseball while they're outside. Can't wait for

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Speaker 8: opening day?

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Speaker 2: How many tweets are going on right now on social

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Speaker 2: media about the snow outside?

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Speaker 3: A lot? Yeah, a lot? Yeah, what's going on? Fellas?

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Speaker 3: Just do it to be here show RT to see

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Speaker 3: you guys. It's great to be here. Yeah I could. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: What do we have coming up on the show? Travis Steel? Wow,

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Speaker 8: head coach of the RedHawks. Okay, yeah, we got him.

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Speaker 8: He's going to be with a cent to four twenty.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if if you have a car dealership

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Speaker 4: that you speak for.

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Speaker 3: Moh, but could.

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Speaker 8: You ask I just spent I just spent seventeen hundred

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Speaker 8: dollars on car repairs today, so.

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Speaker 3: I wish I did have a car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, could you ask him about why he loves that

650
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Speaker 4: Cadillac hat so much?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, Uh, he ain't doing it because he likes sing

653
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Speaker 2: whatever they wanted me to wear?

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Speaker 3: What else?

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Speaker 8: Danner's going to be on the show, Paul, Paul dan

656
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Speaker 8: I'm off tomorrow. Took tomorrow off, So Danner's going to

657
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Speaker 8: be on the show today to talk about why the

658
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Speaker 8: Bengals don't want any linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Can you also ask him why they're spending so much

660
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Speaker 3: money on your one? It's a lot. That's weird.

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Speaker 8: Man. Contracts are unbelievable. Never again want to hear how

662
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Speaker 8: cheap the Bengals are. Never ever ever again you're paying

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Speaker 8: Johnathan Allen boy mafe the kind of upfront money those

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Speaker 8: dudes are getting.

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Speaker 3: If they got more than lindabhen you ever want to

666
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Speaker 3: hear how cheap they are? Ever again?

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Speaker 8: Hunter Sansalm's going to be on the show The Bracketologist,

668
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Speaker 8: the Tri States official Bracketologist, get his thoughts on how

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Speaker 8: the tournament selection committee did and the official Miami guy

670
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Speaker 8: of our show, Jed de Musey is going to be

671
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Speaker 8: on at four thirty three. We've got to talk about

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Speaker 8: y FC Cincinnati. All of a sudden stinks what the

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Speaker 8: committee got right and got wrong, which they really didn't

674
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Speaker 8: get anything wrong. Matt McLean's resurgence continues. Chase Burns Now

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Speaker 8: there's weirdness with him. There's a lot going on. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I asked Austin. He was not able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to me, like I'm an infant, why

678
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Speaker 2: every other team can restructure quarterback deals in the National

679
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Speaker 2: Football League but the Bengals cannot, even though Joe Burrow said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would do.

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Speaker 9: It ready, it's just not something they ah do, Okay.

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Speaker 8: Allright, right, I mean that's the explanation for half of

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Speaker 8: this time. It's not something I don't I don't understand

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Speaker 8: why it's like a non starter.

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Speaker 2: For them, even like, especially when Joe's like, yeah, we

686
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Speaker 2: need to do it, Yes, let's go ahead and do

687
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Speaker 2: it right.

688
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Speaker 8: It ain't like he's like, you know, stiff arming him,

689
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Speaker 8: going uh uh no, no, take.

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Speaker 2: A date every off season? Hey, what day do you

691
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: think Mahomes is going to restructure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Makes no sense I do not watch the Academy Awards,

694
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Speaker 8: not because I'm anti Academy Awards, just not my thing.

695
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Speaker 8: I've watched the Academy Awards exactly once in my life.

696
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Speaker 8: It was nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 8: Uh, for the most part, I really don't see the

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Speaker 8: movies that are nominated. But I was, uh, you know,

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Speaker 8: you had the World Baseball Classic going on last night

701
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Speaker 8: and the Nicks Warriors game going on last night. I

702
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Speaker 8: look at social media and there's a tweet from the

703
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Speaker 8: Inquirer headline Leo DiCaprio spotted sitting up front at Academy Awards.

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Speaker 8: No kidding, wouldn't it have been a bigger story had

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Speaker 8: he been in the balcony probably?

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what she hiding back there.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's like, it's news that he was

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Speaker 8: sitting in the He's Leo DiCaprio. It would be news

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Speaker 8: if he was like sitting in the back or not

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Speaker 8: allowed in denied admission front page. Just wanted to get

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Speaker 8: that off my chest. Yeah, very well. Also, my guy

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Speaker 8: on CBS, Adam Zucker, they announced Miami is going to

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Speaker 8: go to the tournament as the in the Dayton first

714
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Speaker 8: four He's like, oh, you know what, Miami just about

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Speaker 8: a two hour ride you. I'm like two hour ride

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Speaker 8: by bicycle maybe, huh. It's the campus I went to

717
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Speaker 8: as a U D student to try to meet pretty girls.

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Speaker 2: It's a big thing though, distance in between games that

719
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Speaker 2: people have.

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Speaker 3: To travel away. My friend, look at a map. If

721
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Speaker 3: there was one team that do you have it? No,

722
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Speaker 3: none of these teams have a gripe. What about the

723
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Speaker 3: Johnny's as a five?

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Speaker 8: No, the Big East stunk and when they played anybody

725
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Speaker 8: good outside of comfort didn't win. Like, no, that they

726
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Speaker 8: they were seated appropriately. They're in the the death region.

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Speaker 8: But no, they were seated appropriately. I know. It was

728
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Speaker 8: said on the show on CBS last night that Perdue

729
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Speaker 8: there was movement there because of what they did in

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Speaker 8: the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: The Big Ten was a better lead top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: What about do you believe had the Bearcats not fallen

733
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Speaker 2: apart last week that they would have been in the dance?

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Speaker 8: I thought that until yesterday because it didn't appear that

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Speaker 8: they were close to team number sixty eight. They weren't

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Speaker 8: one of the last four out.

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Speaker 3: But it's worth wondering.

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Speaker 2: We're never gonna have to get through I mean, I

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Speaker 2: still when it's brought up, I'm not over twenty eighteen, No,

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Speaker 2: not at all, And that will be a game that

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Speaker 2: lingers in a similar vein for me it does for

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Speaker 2: wes Miller that lost a job in two minutes strand

743
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Speaker 2: a two minute stretch I talked.

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Speaker 8: About this Friday that you have to imagine an alternate

745
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Speaker 8: universe where they win that game and then even if

746
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Speaker 8: they still don't make the tournament, because at that point,

747
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Speaker 8: you don't know. The one thing that did happen that

748
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Speaker 8: day is like everybody else lost that had to lose.

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Speaker 8: What if they play Arizona tough? What if they beat Arizona,

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Speaker 8: What if they don't. But getting to that game and

751
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Speaker 8: having it matter is enough to save wes Miller's job.

752
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Speaker 8: Like it wasn't just that they lost that game. It

753
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Speaker 8: wasn't hey man, you see if had a dude go

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Speaker 8: off and they lost eighty two to seventy eight, the

755
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Speaker 8: game was in their back pocket and they gave it away.

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Speaker 3: And coaching decisions. You and I were on live during it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, coaching decisions were brought into focus, like there's no

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Speaker 8: there's no coming back from that when you're already deeply unpopular. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: or when there's already built in skepticism. But yeah, you

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Speaker 8: were never going to know, and I'm going to guess

761
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Speaker 8: the answer is no. But we're never going to know

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Speaker 8: what the outcome would have been for the team and

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Speaker 8: for the coach had they simply held on to beat

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Speaker 8: a team that was begging to be beaten.

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Speaker 2: Anyhow, any obscure names that you should you think should

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Speaker 2: be brought to the list. We've thrown a bunch out today.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Calhoun is a big name out there about Kevin Ollie.

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Speaker 2: He took over for a different Calhoun won a national title. Right,

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Speaker 2: Any obscure names that you want to maybe just put

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Speaker 2: onto the message boards.

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Speaker 8: Okay, it's Jared Calhoun's job unless something crazy happened.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, Please let's not over complicate things. Fad Mada Mada

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Speaker 3: just retired.

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Speaker 4: Great code about Bruce Pearl, greg odin assistant up there

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Speaker 4: at Butler.

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Speaker 8: Here's an unpopular opinion. I think Bruce Pearl is great

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Speaker 8: for television to watch. You need somebody with some stuff

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 8: out there that he's not quite Jay Wright is what

779
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 8: I know. But when I was a kid, like Billy

780
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 8: Packer was the polarizing opinion on college basketball since he

781
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 8: stopped doing games and he passed away three years ago,

782
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Speaker 8: but since he retired at the end of the two

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Speaker 8: thousand and eight season, there hasn't been anybody like that

784
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Speaker 8: willing to say stuff. Now, Dan Docketch, he used to

785
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Speaker 8: be that guy, and then Dan Dockidge.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know he's in a different plan.

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Speaker 8: I am good on his content, but like you need Phelps,

788
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 8: need a villain, digger Phelps was a villain. Yeah, give

789
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 8: me somebody who's willing to be a villain. And this

790
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 8: whole thing was like, well, he's on Auburn's payroll. Like

791
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 8: the lead NFL analyst on Fox co owns a team,

792
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 8: Troy Aikman said today he's going to continue working for

793
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Speaker 8: the Dolphins.

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00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: But we now just care about conflicts of interest.

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00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jessica Mendoza did Sunday Night Baseball, worked for the

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Speaker 8: Mets and then the Dodgers.

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00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh.

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Speaker 8: Suddenly we care about these conflicts of interest because when

799
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 8: I bring it up and go, hey, Tom Brady probably

800
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 8: shouldn't be sitting in the coaches booth.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh mo, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 8: So like I don't agree with most of what Bruce

803
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Speaker 8: Pearl had to say about Auburn about Miami. But it's

804
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Speaker 8: good to have somebody on TV who's willing to say

805
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 8: some stuff because nobody else will, especially in that sport

806
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 8: where every coach is great, every team is great. Give

807
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 8: me somebody who's willing to say some stuff that moves

808
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 8: the needle a little bit. I'm here for it, and

809
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 8: you're here for the next three hours. Travis Steele would

810
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 8: probably disagree. Maybe I'll ask him about that.

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Speaker 2: That's mull Lager. We're done here since he three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: Back at it tomorrow on ESPN fifteen thirty. Since an

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