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Speaker 2: Little college hoops preview coming up in this hour as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Moagar. But let's get things started with

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Speaker 2: our guy from Local twelve here, Skenny, as you know him.

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Speaker 2: It's Richard Skinner joining us right now. What up, Skinny?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Tony?

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Speaker 2: Good to hear from you, Skinny. How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing fabulous. How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know I'm doing pretty well. Big game coming

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Speaker 2: up here barcodes Ac Joints. Ready. Look, dadies Lewis is

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Speaker 2: forty one. He just got signed back today. We've seen

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Speaker 2: the Flacco reemergence. I might stay back from Utah on

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Speaker 2: Saturday just in case I'm needed.

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Speaker 3: They may they may need you. I mean at the

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Speaker 3: rate they're going with quarterbacks that they're gonna need somebody

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Speaker 3: who's got some experiences position you you.

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Speaker 2: Heard Zach Taylor today, uh fifty to fifty for Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: He's pushing to want to play. As it sits here today,

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Speaker 2: how do you think that this plays out.

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Speaker 3: I don't imagine he plays. I mean, that's a pretty

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Speaker 3: serious injury. It's funny. He just literally and Trey Henderson

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Speaker 3: They're heading to practice right now, obviously not dressed for practice.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I can tell you is this, and

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Speaker 3: I think Zach made it abundantly clear that if he

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Speaker 3: doesn't take any practice reps, he's still and Sunday says

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Speaker 3: I can go that he probably will give it a go.

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Speaker 3: But I just I just don't see it. I'm tony,

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. I mean, watching him on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: after he came out and was started to throw on

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Speaker 3: He went back to the locker room. I would imagine

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Speaker 3: he got a shot in there that are allowed him

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Speaker 3: to finish that game. After the game, it wasn't it

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Speaker 3: wasn't hurting him, but as you know, I mean, you

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Speaker 3: get shot up, you're not feeling anything right, So then

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Speaker 3: the next day comes and suddenly there is a real pain,

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Speaker 3: and then you see what it is and get it

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Speaker 3: which is his brain day seed joint. Those I think

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Speaker 3: those are awful, tough to come back from in a week.

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Speaker 2: On top of that, you mentioned Trey Hendrickson riding by

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Speaker 2: with him as well. Does this feel similar as as

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Speaker 2: what we saw last week of taking it easy during

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Speaker 2: more significant, a little bit more up in the air

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Speaker 2: on if you'll get him on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he was probably still dealing with some

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Speaker 3: and then reaggravated it. And I would think the reaggravation

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Speaker 3: probably would would blend to him probably not playing this

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Speaker 3: he does practice tomorrow and that's not off the table yet,

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Speaker 3: then I think that's at least a step in the

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Speaker 3: direction of him giving it a shot. But even if

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Speaker 3: he plays, I wouldn't imagine it's a It's a full

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Speaker 3: reinjured the very first game you come back. That's probably

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Speaker 3: not a recipe to say he's gonna play this week

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Speaker 2: It's it's hard because on offense, we've talked so much

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Speaker 2: about just get Jamar Chase the ball, Get Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: the ball. Is there a Is there a universe in

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Speaker 2: just feeding him so much that now all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you look up and T Higgins was only targeted twice.

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Speaker 2: Is there a Is there a fine line of balance

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Speaker 3: I think there is. I mean it is. I I listen,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine any world where andre yoshibash gets more

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Speaker 3: it's been a good recipe for them. Yeah. The other

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Speaker 3: part that equation, though, is again, I can't find a

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Speaker 2: You know you you mentioned Yoshi and Austin had the statue.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the stats in front of me, Direk,

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Speaker 2: this point, is it time to see Mitchell Tinsley? Is

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Speaker 2: it time to give Jermaine Burton an opportunity on a Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think they'd like to give Jermain Berger an

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Speaker 3: But you know NFL wide receivers have to make those catches,

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Speaker 3: that either that's the same part about that's where the

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Speaker 3: coverage dictated the throw went. They took away Jamal, they

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Speaker 4: They have figured something out. It seems like in the

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Speaker 4: run game, Skinny, do you feel like because of how

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Speaker 3: No, I still think he's a past first guy, but

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Speaker 3: I do think they've leaned on it more because they've

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Speaker 3: had success in it. And I wrote a story last week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I asked dam Pitcher, I has a couple

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Speaker 3: what kind of started to click in the run game,

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Speaker 3: And there was really no one answer to it. Some

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Speaker 3: Some of it is, you know, the chance to lean

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Speaker 3: they've gone under center a little bit more with Joe Flaccow,

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Speaker 3: and I would assume they will do that with Jake Browning.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's helped the run game a little bit,

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Speaker 3: it's all it's all kind of pieced together maybe the

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Speaker 2: It goes without saying that the defensive performance has been putrid.

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Speaker 2: Give we have thirty nine to that Jets team after

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Speaker 2: They didn't have Garrett Wilson in the game, they didn't

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Speaker 2: they put up thirty nine points. After the game, we're

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Speaker 2: Who's the leader on the defensive side of the ball

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Speaker 3: I think it's Brett Carter. But then again, Brett Carter

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Speaker 3: I think he is that leader. I think they believe

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Speaker 3: be the leader, right, So he needs to make some

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Speaker 2: The early returns on this year's draft class, Shamar Stewart

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Speaker 2: has not played well up to this point, and I

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Speaker 2: know he missed time in camp, but he's got one

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Speaker 2: is missing a lot of tackles. Are what are your

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Speaker 2: Because it was so pivotal with the money they're spending

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Speaker 2: What's your early view of that?

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Speaker 3: So, Tony, I'm actually after I get done right in

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Speaker 3: this Joe Slacker injured story. I'm gonna do a doing

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Speaker 3: a column on redrafting the first three rounds this draft

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Speaker 3: thosere the guys you you should lean on. But I

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Speaker 3: think Derrek Cart and Jaden Rivers are gonna work out

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Speaker 3: of working out fine as fourth and fifth round picks.

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Speaker 3: But you'd had G. Cambell in the first round Tate

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Speaker 4: At what point do you think, Skinny, is the point

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Speaker 3: There's no offset language to my no house in Mark

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Speaker 2: It's a good agent.

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Speaker 3: It's a great agent.

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Speaker 3: Yep, just at the Local twelve dot com slash sports

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Speaker 2: Skinny, Skinny, you're the best. Thank you man?

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Speaker 3: All right there?

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Speaker 8: some tape and maybe scouted you guys out because they

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Speaker 8: seem pretty hell then on beating you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think again, it's not coach speak, like if

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Speaker 7: you want to try to overanalyze, you know, like the

436
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Speaker 7: game one game or the other guy, I just think

437
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Speaker 7: you're going to run into some trouble doing that, you know,

438
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Speaker 7: Like it's there was a different approach from Marshness, certainly, like, hey,

439
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Speaker 7: the result felt good driving home from ann Arbor, the

440
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Speaker 7: result felt terrible flying pack from Arkansas. And there's there's

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Speaker 7: value to creating those feelings and those dynamics to help.

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Speaker 9: Us get ready for the season.

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Speaker 7: Like there's again everything was a tool here, but trying

444
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Speaker 7: to kind of pick apart all this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a way, it's kind of a waste

446
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Speaker 7: of energy. Right, It's obvious that we have a group

447
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Speaker 7: that has the opportunity to be a great team, Like

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Speaker 7: I think that's obvious from not just the two times

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Speaker 7: we've played exhibitions, but from our practices every day, you know.

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Speaker 9: And then there's obvious that we have a group that's

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Speaker 9: new and.

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Speaker 7: Is just learning how to work together, play together, and

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Speaker 7: that we have to be very intentional every day about

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Speaker 7: that process so that when we get to league play

455
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Speaker 7: we can be the type of team we expect to be.

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Speaker 9: And so and then there's everything in between.

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Speaker 7: So obviously we've overanalyzed the games from a coaching perspective

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Speaker 7: as a tool to improve our team, but outcomes and

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Speaker 7: stuff we haven't. We didn't overanalyze the outcome of the

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Speaker 7: Michigan game. We didn't overanalyze the outcome of the Arkansas game,

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Speaker 7: because that wasn't the intention of either opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned being ready for the Big twelve.

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Speaker 10: How much of this obviously it's to get ready for

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Speaker 10: the Houston's and the Kansas is, but almost as important

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Speaker 10: for the rest of the league when you have to

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Speaker 10: go on the road and face some of those games

467
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Speaker 10: that maybe aren't against like, you know, a top five

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Speaker 10: team in the country. To be able to get the

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Speaker 10: team ready for that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and again, very strategic to go play two road

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Speaker 7: games in October or exhibition games on the road in

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Speaker 7: October against great team. It's very strategic. Like I think

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Speaker 7: I was honest about that in our first press conference.

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Speaker 7: But the strategic part of it is, Hey, let's go

475
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Speaker 7: challenge ourselves, see what we can learn from that, see

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Speaker 7: how we can use that as a tool, and let's

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Speaker 7: let natural adversity occur and deal with it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not I can't.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a crystal ball, Like I can't predict

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Speaker 7: what's going to happen because I don't control what Michigan

481
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Speaker 7: does and I don't control what Arkansas does. And like

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Speaker 7: we were not really doing scouting reports like that this

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Speaker 7: time of year because that's we're working on ourselves. So

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Speaker 7: I don't know when I planned it out, how that's

485
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Speaker 7: all going to go. And honestly, I don't care, because

486
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Speaker 7: there's beauty in just having some real, real adversity or

487
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Speaker 7: real success and then using that as a tool to

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Speaker 7: get better. That's it, Like there was really very strategic

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Speaker 7: thinking in that sense. But then let's see what happens

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Speaker 7: and let's learn from it. And then at the same time,

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Speaker 7: you know, like we come out of the second half

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Speaker 7: and the Michigan exhibition and we start a bizarre lineup, right, Like,

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Speaker 7: at the same time, as competitive as we all are,

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Speaker 7: we can't waste these tools that we have in the preseason.

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Speaker 7: You know, we played a lineup we'd never practiced to

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Speaker 7: start the second half against Michigan.

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Speaker 9: We would never do that in a real game.

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Speaker 7: There's things that we did in these exhibitions that we

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Speaker 7: would never do. And some of them worked and were great,

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Speaker 7: and some of them were awful. But it's so over

501
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Speaker 7: analyzing results, whether it was good or bad. Like we

502
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Speaker 7: weren't like as a coaching staff, we weren't celebrating after

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Speaker 7: we drove home from an arbor and we weren't down

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Speaker 7: in the dumps.

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Speaker 9: I slept great on Friday night.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was a great opportunity to teach and

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Speaker 7: get our guys attention. As we said told the team

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Speaker 7: after the Arkansas scrimmage. If we had done anything we'd

509
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Speaker 7: practiced and that was the result, I'd be really worried.

510
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Speaker 7: But we didn't do any damn thing we practiced. But

511
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Speaker 7: that was a good opportunity for us. So no, there

512
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Speaker 7: was a major strategy in the plan this and I

513
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Speaker 7: think it will serve us well if we allow it to.

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Speaker 9: Moving forward throughout the entire year. But that's it. I

515
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Speaker 9: think looking farther into it is a mistake.

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Speaker 2: And I get it.

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Speaker 9: That's all you guys have to go on. I'll say this.

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Speaker 7: I've pleaded with anybody that'll listen to me, could we

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Speaker 7: do four or five of those in the preseason? Like

520
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Speaker 7: how much better would college basketball be the product on

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Speaker 7: the court the first day? Because those those are practices

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Speaker 7: for our team, and I would say ninety nine percent

523
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Speaker 7: of coaches approach those the way that we do. We

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Speaker 7: get more out of one practice, you know, in terms

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Speaker 7: of developing our team. I'm sorry, out of one exhibition

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Speaker 7: and we do seven straight practices like they're so valuable,

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Speaker 7: and so I wish we got to do four or

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Speaker 7: five of them, and I think we would be better off.

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Speaker 7: As in college basketball when the first week started, the

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Speaker 7: basketball would be better.

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Speaker 11: I'm curious, since you bring that up, if you did

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Speaker 11: play four or five of exhibitions, would it be more

533
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Speaker 11: difficult to not take as much from the games in

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Speaker 11: terms of the good or bad rat poison that you've

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Speaker 11: kind of talked about.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, you guys, I love it, you know,

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Speaker 7: and I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: We haven't given you a lot to talk about the

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Speaker 7: last five or six weeks. So we get out in

541
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Speaker 7: front of the lights. It's that that's what you should

542
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Speaker 7: be talking about. There's a little design there, right, So

543
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Speaker 7: that that's been good for us. That's been good for

544
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Speaker 7: us to learn how that works. We've we've utilized that

545
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Speaker 7: in our in our conversations within the locker room of hey,

546
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Speaker 7: don't listen when you people are praising you because you

547
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Speaker 7: had some success, and certainly don't don't listen if it's

548
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Speaker 7: the other way. Like, this is important to learn as

549
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Speaker 7: we go on our journey because both things are bound

550
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Speaker 7: to occur, all right.

551
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Speaker 2: That is some Wes Miller from earlier today also went

552
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Speaker 2: on to talk about their big Man, Big Slime, who

553
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Speaker 2: had a lower body procedure and they are hoping at

554
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Speaker 2: some point this year late in the year he can

555
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Speaker 2: come back, but they are really noncommittal on that. That

556
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Speaker 2: is the Cincinnati bearcatch whose season gets underway Monday night

557
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Speaker 2: at Fifth Third Arena. Plenty more on that between now

558
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Speaker 2: and then, but let's take our next break. We'll come back,

559
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Speaker 2: try to squeeze a phone call in, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get to Mowegar for quick hits on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: over for the Moweger Show in just a few moments.

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Speaker 2: While we have a brief moment, another phone call. What's

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Speaker 2: going on, Mike?

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Speaker 3: How are you? Hey?

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Speaker 12: Guys, thanks for letting me on today. Appreciate it. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 12: I don't even want to talk about the Dodgers until

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Speaker 12: pissed off at everybody. But three minutes, Oh, Tani, Toronto,

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Speaker 12: here's the difference. Toronto puts bat on ball that's the difference.

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Speaker 12: They've got a half a dozen guys hitting over three

577
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Speaker 12: hundred and two of which are hitting over four hundred

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Speaker 12: and the Dodgers and everybody's dropping the ball so scrolling.

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Speaker 12: So much show me otherwise.

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Speaker 2: So much was made about Otani, and like, does Toronto

581
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Speaker 2: even pitch to him? If you're the Dodgers, do you

582
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Speaker 2: question even pitching to Guerrero right now?

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Speaker 12: I guess it depends on the guy pitching. That would

584
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Speaker 12: be the critical factor. I trust Smell pitching anybody, sure,

585
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Speaker 12: uh and Yamamoto too so, but again that, like I say, Tony,

586
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Speaker 12: that's a tough one because that's such an individual thing.

587
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Speaker 12: And now are the guys on solo ball? That's what

588
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 12: hills the Dodgers. They hit a lot of solo home

589
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Speaker 12: runs because they don't get anybody on. Sure, it's really

590
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Speaker 12: fam Mookie's rookie. I just feel hard for the guy.

591
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Speaker 12: I mean, he's just thinking it up. But you know,

592
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Speaker 12: I'm going to football real quick.

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Speaker 3: I uh boy.

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Speaker 12: Thet AFC Norse has won in the crapper.

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Speaker 2: Man without a doubt, Without a doubt.

596
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Speaker 12: Don't figure that the beginning of the year. Nobody would

597
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Speaker 12: have figured that thing out, So that's a shock or

598
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Speaker 12: the NFL always will shock you.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 12: And Dax Hill, he's becoming laughable to me to the

601
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Speaker 12: point where I mean talk about pick.

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Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing is Dax Hill has not been good,

603
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Speaker 2: but everyone else has been worse. So Dax Hill is

604
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Speaker 2: almost getting a pass is to not be criticized as

605
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Speaker 2: much because some other guys are playing that much worse.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 12: It is and and and and lose got his defensive.

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Speaker 2: We lose you, Mike, Yep, we lost him. I believe

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Speaker 2: what Mike was going to go with is that Luena

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Speaker 2: Roumo's got his defense as a top ten defensive from

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Speaker 2: a scoring standpoint. Correct, how about that unbelievable stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: It.

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Speaker 2: I guess the Dax Hill conversation to me would would

615
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Speaker 2: start and stop with the conversation we had a couple

616
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Often when we we tried to come

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Speaker 2: up with a list of players that you would want

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Speaker 2: to be a part of this team going forward. I

619
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Speaker 2: think that's kind of where it starts and stops. Do

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Speaker 2: you do you think Dax Hill is a piece that

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Speaker 2: you could not live without if you're the Bengals going forward?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that there's anybody along the team that

623
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Speaker 4: fits that description. I would like to have Dax on

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Speaker 4: the team, Yeah, I don't know that. I couldn't live

625
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Speaker 4: without him, I mean can't live with him, So it

626
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter nobody. I don't know that there's anybody in

627
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Speaker 4: football that yeah, fits that description to be honest for

628
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Speaker 4: this Okay, So for this team, for a player you'd

629
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Speaker 4: like to rely on going forward, Dax Hill stays, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Dax Hill stays Schmar Stewart stays, how.

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Speaker 2: Much more of samar Stewart would you need to see

632
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Speaker 2: before you start to worry? If his trajectory is more

633
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Speaker 2: along the lines of mind, I still need to see

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 4: I still need to see a lie of Al Golden

636
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Speaker 4: said yesterday that he still is really in his infancy.

637
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Speaker 4: If you remember, he missed most of the offseason training camp,

638
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Speaker 4: offseason training program, He missed a decent chunk of training

639
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Speaker 4: camp and was trying to get his body right and

640
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Speaker 4: get in shape. Then he got hurt and missed a

641
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Speaker 4: couple of games with an ankle injury. So he's still

642
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Speaker 4: very early on and we knew he was going to

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Speaker 4: be a project from the beginning. So I'm not like

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Speaker 4: giving up on Shamar Stewart. I think that would be

645
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Speaker 4: foolish to do. Do you feel the same about Demetrius Now,

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Speaker 4: you also have to keep in mind Shamar Stewart's playing

647
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Speaker 4: with a bunch of losers around him, like they are.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are not NFL caliber players. It's not that

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Speaker 4: different than if you and I were lined up next

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Speaker 4: to Shamar Stewart. That's how low the play has been

651
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Speaker 4: for those guys, and nobody's good. When football, you are

652
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: a collection, you are a some of the parts right,

653
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: Like it's there's eleven guys on defense and there's about

654
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: two of them worth a dam on the Bengals defense.

655
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Speaker 2: Do you hold the same thought as it relates to

656
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight. No, Demetrius Knight is older than Breecee Hall. Yeah,

657
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Demetrius Knight was supposed to. That was the whole thing

658
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: with him right sideline to sideline linebacker. Awesome, dude, married,

659
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: has kids, he's really bright. He'll pick up the defense,

660
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: he'll put it together right away. Well, I don't know

661
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: if you've seen the tape. There are times he's turning

662
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction, like foolishly turning in the wrong direction.

663
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: He looks like a guy who has never played football before.

664
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Speaker 2: I thought his veteran presence would shine through more. Yeah,

665
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: that whole thing has a bunch of hogwash. And then

666
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter, at least at times, looks like he's in

667
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: the right position. But I don't know that he has

668
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: that killer instinct yet. I don't know that.

669
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Speaker 4: I don't know that he's fully confident in his abilities.

670
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: I can live more with the Barrett Carter mistakes than

671
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: the Demetrius Knight junior mistakes. Because Demetrius Night, I mean,

672
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 4: it's flat out embarrassing the reps.

673
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: That he had against the Jets on Sunday. Yeah, uh,

674
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: we need to break one final time. Moweger is next

675
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. It's quick Kits

676
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: from the Any Weather Heating and Dared Thames, Dave Lapham

677
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: and Me for Bengals game plan tonight, starting at six

678
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: on the official home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

679
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Speaker 6: Cincy three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports station.

680
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 6: It's time for Cincy three sixty Quick Kits on.

681
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen mos in the building. Mo, Hey, what's up?

682
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Speaker 7: Mo?

683
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: How are we doing good?

684
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 13: How are you?

685
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: I'm doing well? How are you doing? I'm fantastic? How

686
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: about you, guys? How are you doing all right? It's

687
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Tony's favorite question to anybody who comes on the air

688
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: with him. How are you? What point of the week

689
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 2: do you get to when you start like just finding

690
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: the optimism again?

691
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 13: For the Bengals, it always happens around midday on Wednesday,

692
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 13: okay because people get tired of the same old narratives.

693
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Yep, yet change it up, and then by Friday it's

694
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: all the'll win. Yeah. Fine, I want to get to

695
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: what's on your show, But I want to ask you

696
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: something I was just asking him. You came in, make

697
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: this make sense to me? Game ended last week. Zach

698
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: Taylor takes the podium and please for someone on the

699
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: defense to step up. Need leaders over there. Jordan Battle

700
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: after the game says, we need to find a leader

701
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: on defense. Don't know who it's going to be. You

702
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: can't be the captain, No leader. Players only meeting happens

703
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: this week on the defensive side of the ball. Mike Pennell,

704
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: whatever you think about Mike Penell or his role on

705
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: the team. Don't think anything about Mike Penell. Chris Jones.

706
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: Chris Jones thought enough of Mike Penell to say we

707
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: need him back on this team because of his leadership.

708
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Didn't say because of hell how he plays, or the

709
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: technique he plays with, or what he does to affect

710
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 2: the game, but mentioned that the word leadership and how

711
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: great Mike Penell was. So Mike Penell's leadership is good

712
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: enough for the Chiefs and the stars they have on

713
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: that roster, but apparently not good enough here in Cincinnati.

714
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 13: I don't have an explanation for you. I'm baffled, baffling.

715
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 13: I'll ask Richard Skinner today. Oh, I'll put that on

716
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 13: the list of things I asked him because I don't

717
00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 13: have the answer.

718
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: And you brought up something they're gone. Who's replacing him?

719
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 13: Well, they put two guys on IR yesterday. Huh, and

720
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 13: they got rid of Mike Pennell. They've not replaced either

721
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 13: of them on the roster. Like, have I missed something?

722
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 13: I have been busy today.

723
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: This might McKinley Jackson, Are you want to talk about

724
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: a point of no return? There are three open roster

725
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: spots as of.

726
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 13: Now Wednesday, they have it starts today if they have

727
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 13: a game on Sunday?

728
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, is Nick Krawl managing the roster?

729
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: Now?

730
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 12: Like what do we.

731
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 13: So they made the announcement yesterday these two guys on

732
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 13: Shaka Hayward was not a surprise. Matt Lee has been

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 13: dealing with an injury for a while. And then the

734
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 13: Mike Penell thing, and we got the press release in

735
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 13: the Bengals in like three thirty yesterday.

736
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually things like coincide with out of announcement twenty

737
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Speaker 2: four hours later.

738
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Speaker 4: Like I also checked the transaction wire. They didn't work

739
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: anybody out, They didn't sign anybody off a practice squad.

740
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Speaker 2: Now it's Mkiley Jackson. Nobody that came love what McKinley

741
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: Jackson's done.

742
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Speaker 8: But the.

743
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Speaker 13: Roster is fifty three guys, right, Yeah, they're now down

744
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 13: to fifty. They have a game on Sunday.

745
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: Do they have to go with fifty three the dice?

746
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: I guess not. It's just none of it makes sense.

747
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: Here's the Chiefs and Chris Jones. Maybe Mike was put

748
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 2: on a piece of paper. They rave about his anything

749
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: about it. They rave about his leadership, and we don't

750
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Speaker 2: have a leader in Cincinnati on the defensive side of

751
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Speaker 2: the ball. Well, is he a leader? If he said

752
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: he wants out? Did he not go to the players

753
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: only meeting? Are we are we? Again? He requested his release?

754
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: Is that a guy you want? Logan Wilson wanted to

755
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: be out?

756
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Logan been here a while and was voted a

757
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: team captain. They picked up right before the season started.

758
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: Do you want Trey Henderson's a panel or pedal? It's panel?

759
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Like?

760
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: Is that a leader to you? And since when do

761
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: the Bengals? No, it's not a leader, But since when

762
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: do the Bengals go? You want out?

763
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Speaker 12: Cool?

764
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

765
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean they've made it pretty clear how they

766
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 4: feel about the aging veterans on the roster.

767
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: This year, haven't they? No doubt about it.

768
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Speaker 13: I guess my other thing is, and I've talked about this,

769
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 13: they're looking for leaders all summer long. I heard Trey

770
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 13: wants to be a captain exactly like Trey's when he

771
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 13: has played has been fine, and he plays hard and

772
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 13: like he's been an you know, the greatest free act

773
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 13: free agent acquisition, like all that stuff established. But in

774
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 13: the summer of Trey, which god knows, occupied a ton

775
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 13: of time in our lives. One of the sticking points

776
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 13: was Trey wants to be a captain.

777
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that?

778
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 13: Isn't leadership inherent when you get that captain to see?

779
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 13: Is it just because he wanted to be out there

780
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 13: for the coin flip? So, like my first thought on Mike,

781
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 13: Mike Pettell might be a great leader, can you really

782
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 13: lead when you never do anything and you've been on

783
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 13: the team for two months? And christ Jones never said

784
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 13: anything about his play on the field. He just said

785
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 13: he's important for our locker room. Yeah, and he has

786
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 13: a relationship established over multiple years in that locker.

787
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: Room in camp.

788
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 13: But to me, I look at why is the coach

789
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 13: calling out a lack of leaders on defense when you

790
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 13: do have a guy who has been here since twenty

791
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 13: twenty one who was a Defensive Player of the Year

792
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 13: finalist and insisted on being a captain.

793
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Tells me about his inability to be a leader.

794
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 13: So it's one of two things. It's that or if

795
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 13: you're Trey Hendrickson, aren't you like, hey me, I'm but

796
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 13: he probably isn't. So we did this whole dog and

797
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 13: pony show about Trey wants to be a captain. Make

798
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 13: him a captain, all right, captain, do some captain stuff.

799
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Speaker 3: Lead.

800
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: What do you got coming up today?

801
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 13: It's college Basketball Day? Dang right, it's one of two

802
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 13: college basketball days. So I've got to do that tomorrow

803
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 13: on the show. Richard Patino Tomorrow. You got Patino tomorrow

804
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 13: night tomorrow.

805
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: Richard Patino. Today on the show, Wes Miller and Darren Horn.

806
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 13: Very nice with Ka Merriweather and the annual Chad and

807
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 13: Rick College Basketball spectacul Wow. Uh. Plus we'll get Richard

808
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 13: Skinner on and MLS Comeback Player of the Year Nick

809
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 13: Haglan at four oh five.

810
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: That was a tough break for d Alexander, that announcement

811
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: the other star studed choke for d.

812
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 13: Tough break for the UC women's basketball program and coach Mayweather.

813
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 13: We'll talk about that in so much more.

814
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: Three twenty crazy that college hoops is here. Yes, Well,

815
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: like I want, Todd, I feel like every year in

816
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: the same.

817
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 13: I'm old enough to remember when the season would start,

818
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 13: like December one, yeah, or maybe right before right after thanks,

819
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 13: and so it's still as much as I look forward

820
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 13: to it, as much as we've had these awesome you know,

821
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 13: majors versus majors exhibition games like yesterday, yesterday, it sounds

822
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 13: like a Monday night.

823
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: You see, I'm like, what's going on? Oh yeah, that's right,

824
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: right November. Third season is so long, and I think

825
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: with UC playing well, you get caught up in that. Yeah,

826
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: so many storylines with the Bengals, and then it's like

827
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's here and it's a very

828
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: important non conference late for the Bearcats. It's a huge

829
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 2: year for Wes Miller. You yeah, I mean, writing's on

830
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: the wall. Wes would be the first to admit that

831
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: they have to have their name on the screen on

832
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: Selection Sunday. I put it out there last week for

833
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Xavier fans, what's the expectation for Xavier this year? And

834
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: the fans that did call in said five hundred, Like really, Noah,

835
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: in today's basketball, that's odd because of the portal and

836
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: how you can restructure a roster. And I don't want

837
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: to say it's a free year for Patino, but it

838
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: feels like I don't I hate the term throwaway year,

839
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: but it feels like he's got a lot of leeway

840
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: going into this year. Sure, and he should. He's a

841
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: first year head coach. It feels like the floor, though,

842
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: is lower than it should be. Right, that was my thoughts.

843
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 13: Like Sean Miller, year one got sou le boom, then

844
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 13: year two wasn't very good, but it didn't feel like

845
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 13: the floor was as low as it feels like it

846
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 13: is for Xavier this year. And I say that Rick

847
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 13: Rick Burnings to join us in the five o'clock hour.

848
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: It covers a team.

849
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 13: Like everybody that I've talked to that's connected with the program,

850
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 13: they like Richard, right, but they talk extensively about the

851
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 13: lack of just high major talent on the team and

852
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 13: the low ceiling and the low floor, Like it feels

853
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 13: like the floor is lower than you would expect it

854
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 13: to be for Xavier basketball.

855
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just of the president.

856
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 13: That's may surprise people that may end up being really good.

857
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 13: But and and and frankly, much of that came before

858
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 13: the Murray State game, right. I mean most people that

859
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 13: I know that watch that said like this is kind

860
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 13: of what we expected.

861
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot in exhibitions, though no I don't either.

862
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: I've never been one too. You are too high or

863
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: too low off an exhibition contract.

864
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Speaker 13: Friday night, I was working, but I had it on

865
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 13: while you were being inducted into the Hall of Fame,

866
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 13: and I said to myself, I'm really glad Tony's not

867
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 13: watching this.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was so caught up. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even talk to you about it. Friday night, I

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Speaker 2: got home and I remember, like, man, you see played

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Speaker 2: tonight and I looked at the score.

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Speaker 13: It's like, okay, by the way, one thing, I just

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Speaker 13: looked at that Kentucky and Louisville playing on November eleventh.

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Speaker 13: I don't know why not Because the game is always

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Speaker 13: played between Christmas and New Year's and college basketball is better,

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Speaker 13: then why are those two schools playing?

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Speaker 2: Like you see in Xavier. I wish played later, they

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Speaker 2: don't play in November. That's gonna be a fun one too, Louisville.

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Speaker 2: Louisville's got a lot of like dark horse contending qualities

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: this year with Louisveland, Cincinnati, here Bank. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Your show is gonna be fun. Today it sounds like

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Speaker 2: it's an awesome.

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Speaker 13: It's gonna be just an incredible, incredible array of sports

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Speaker 13: talk topics or guests, insights, and.

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Speaker 2: Then one more tomorrow before we get ready for Utah.

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Speaker 2: Commentary with no Evan pryor. Yeah, it's disappointing, no zoom.

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Speaker 2: But you said how healthy they've been on Monday, because

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Speaker 2: it's true, they've been remarkably healthy. Are you gonna hang

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Speaker 2: out with me and my mom and so? I can't

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Speaker 2: wait to do anything in Salt Lake City?

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Speaker 13: My mom, my mom and her boyfriend coming to Salt Lake?

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Speaker 13: Are you trigger treat somewhere we can? What's your what's

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Speaker 13: your go to Halloween candy?

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Speaker 12: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Full size twix bars? Okay? Oh, that's what you like

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Speaker 2: to eat, and that's what you like to pass out?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 2: TwixT or left? Twigs? Guy, I have no idea. I

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Speaker 2: love I love twigs. Okay, that's my favorite candy? All right? Interesting?

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Speaker 2: Full size? So you dressed up to have Have you

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Speaker 2: ever dressed up to pass out candy?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 2: What is the oldest you or when you trigger treated?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Probably like seventh grade, eighth grade? I was fifteen years old.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, still, we had to do

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Speaker 2: that candy orove us to the neighborhood we trick or

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Speaker 2: treated in Either that or go out and get into mischief.

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Speaker 13: You remember walking up to a door and the kids

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Speaker 13: in front of us were just getting their candy, and

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Speaker 13: I'm like, I'm more than twice their age.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be doing this. Did stop me that night? Well,

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Speaker 2: see what the see what your mom thinks? Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: she can research out there.

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Speaker 13: Trigger is the thirteen year old kid who screwed up

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Speaker 13: the Marty Brenneman statue? Is that kid gonna be trick

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Speaker 13: or treating? Because I got some things I'd like to

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Speaker 13: say to him or her whoever.

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Speaker 7: That was.

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Speaker 2: More of that is coming up next. Tony and Mom

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Speaker 2: hanging out Salt Lake CITYSPS fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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