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Speaker 3: So? Indianapolis was great. I'm back in Cincinnati. Had a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I do think that Caleb downs and I

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Speaker 1: Well, by the way, I just, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I have no idea, and who knows. You know, in

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Speaker 3: I just think it's a year where the Bengals have

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Speaker 1: If it's not Joe Flacco, who should the Bengals backup

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Speaker 3: So I thought about this one a lot. And I

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Speaker 1: You're taking questions from readers. You published your first mail

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Speaker 1: bag response today. Where can people submit questions to you

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Speaker 1: on what kind of questions are you looking for?

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Speaker 3: So I am open to any questions about the Bengals

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Speaker 3: So if you're listening and you have a question in

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Speaker 3: But if there's something else that you have, it's just

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Speaker 1: All right, check out out at Cincinnati dot com by

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Speaker 1: the way, really quick, while we're While we're on the internet,

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Speaker 1: Joel Nardi, thee bracketologist for ESPN dot com, has our

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Speaker 2: They've got a pulse Killsey.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe as I do, that they will win

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Speaker 3: You know, No, it's funny out. It's Friday. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna sprinkle some optimism here and say let's

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Speaker 3: doom and gloom. It's almost March. Let's just you know,

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Speaker 1: I've already made plans to watch their first round NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournament game at the Holy Grail with you, so put

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Speaker 1: that on your calendar because it's online, and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on though, you're the best.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Conway covering the Bengals for the Inquirer and Cincinnati

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