1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Six, seven hundred wilw R L Kerry Or Sports Talk 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance Pacallis. You're happy to 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: have you here. Let's talk some hoops. My next guest 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: ready to officially embark on his first season at Xavier 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: when the Musketeers played Marist on Monday night, seven fifteen 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: at Sentas. What a pleasure to welcome in the head 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: coach of the Xavier Musketeers, Richard Patino Coach Lance McAllister. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: How are we doing doing great? Lance? Thanks for having me. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: Great catching up with you and hearing your voice. Uh, 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: let's walk through this. You were hired March twenty fifth. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: It's been a whirlwin of moving parts since. Are you 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: looking forward to finally just tossing the ball up and 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: coaching a game that counts? 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean year one is always a little bit 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: challenging for obvious reasons. You know, when you don't inherit 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: a player who's made a basket, that could be a 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: little bit challenging from last year. We so we did 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: our very best to certainly put together a staff, us 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: put together a roster, you know, and just build kind 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: of from scratch. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: But you know, it's a fun group. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: They're really good guys, they're easy to coach, they work hard, 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: they've got great attitude, and yeah, I mean, you know, 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: one of the reasons I took the job was just, 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, the Cintas Center is such a cool building. 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: The Zavior fan base really really cares, you know. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: So we're excited to play in front of them. 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Twelve new guys. As you alluded to, first time a 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Xavier coach has not had a single returning scholarship letter 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: winner in program history. Coach, I don't have to tell you, 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: but I'll tell the fans. That's an awfully difficult recipe 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: for success, especially in the Big East. 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have to explain the fans. 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: And you know, it's a slippery slope because you don't 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: want to sound like you're complaining. 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: But it's a new profession. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: You know, the last four or five years when the 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: rules changed, and you know you've got transfers that can. 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Be eligible right away. 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: Normally, when there's a coaching change, you are lucky to 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: inherit you know, a couple of players from the past 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: regime where in the past you inherited a roster. Then 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: you kind of try to figure out who you wanted 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: to keep, who you wanted to you know, maybe move 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: on or whatever. Where now it's you're starting over. So 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's all good. 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: You know, we're going to coach our butts off on 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: Monday and see when you're at the When. 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I was struck by something you said recently to Paul Frichner, 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: and you said, what's happening today in the game isn't recruiting. 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: It's free agency. And it really truly is, isn't it. 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to sound like disrespectful to 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: people when they bring up the past, but I just 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: think it's very very important. And you're seeing it in 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: football right now. I mean, you're seeing programs like Vanderbilt 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: be really really good. 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: You know, schools that may not have been good in 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: the past are now elevating their spending in the NIL space. 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: They're getting really really good players. You know, the players 63 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: are making different decisions now on what you know, why 64 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: they're choosing a program. It used to be facilities, it 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: used to be private planes, nutrition or whatever. But you know, 66 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: it really really comes down to investment more than anything. 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: And you know the cost of winning is high, and 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, I know Xavier wants to have a great 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: basketball program, but it's very very important that you know, 70 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: we all understand what that is moving forward and what 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: the most important thing is. And what I can tell 72 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: you is, you know, and everybody knows this, when you 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: have a winning basketball program, especially at a place like 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: Xavier in the Big East that doesn't have football, you're 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: you're going to get the return on the investment, whether 76 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: it's through marketing, whether it's through packed houses, all those things. 77 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean times have changed. 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: You're seeing you know, the number one recruit in the 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: country is from Boston. He went to my high school 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: actually where I went in Boston, and he's going to 81 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: be hy you that's not an not going to be 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: yu program. But it's just guys are making different decisions now, 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: more so than they ever have before. 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: You've had an exhibition game against Murray State, scrimmage against Toledo. 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Were they productive? What would be a takeaway or two 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: from those opportunities? 87 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really productive. 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: You know. I mean, I think moving forward, what I'd 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: like to be able to do. 90 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Is play one at home, play one on the road. 91 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: You know, to you get the jitters out to the 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: best of your ability. You know, I think people are 93 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: still trying to figure out how to take all these exhibition. 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: Games and so on. 95 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: But for us, it's it's just an opportunity to play 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: with the lights on, play in front of fans, see 97 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: where what we're doing well, see what we need to 98 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: work on, and you know, there's a bunch. I mean, 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: we've had some good moments, we've had some sloppy moments, 100 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: but I think it shows you more than anything like 101 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: this is going to be really really competitive and we're 102 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: not to scratching claw to get a win. But as 103 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: I said before, both both games were valuable in different ways. 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: But what I've loved about the team is the attitude 105 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: is terrific. 106 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Right now, when. 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I talk to people about your team, in most instances, 108 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: they quickly bring up the name Trey Carroll, the transfer 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: from Florida Atlantic. Tell listeners about your impressions of Trey. 110 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know with players are they you know, 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: are they gamers? 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: Are they not? 113 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: And that's probably the most positive takeaway from the two 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: exhibition games was he just seemed to turn it on to, 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, to another level. You know, in these game situations. 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: He's pretty skilled. He can make the three and go 117 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: in the post. He could score to his left hand, 118 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: his right hand. 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: He's older. 120 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: You know, he came from a really good program at 121 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: FAU that they've gone to the final four. So you know, 122 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: we're very, very lucky to have him. He competes his 123 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: butt off, you know, he really really you know, he'll 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 3: die for a loose fall. He'll block a shot and transition. 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: You know, he's got a very high bass like you. 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: So he's absolutely been very, very impressive in the first 127 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: two exhibition games. 128 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Xavier fans have been accustomed to seeing that pack line 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: defense over the years, over a couple of decades. In 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: a perfect defensive world, what will they see from your defense? 131 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: Well, we were fortunate in New Mexico. 132 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: We had you know, I'm not sure the exact number, 133 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: but we were top twenty defensively in every year of 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: the last two years and went to Amstabody tournament. We 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: were able to generate turnovers. You know, that doesn't mean 136 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: like we're going to be flying all over the place 137 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: like bad men, but you know, the best way to 138 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: score is to get out on the break, and the 139 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: best way to do that is to have a great defense. 140 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: So I'm not anti the pack line by any means, 141 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: but we just have kind of a different style to 142 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: what we try to do. You know, we feel that 143 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: it works. You know, obviously it's going to be a 144 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: work in progress with the personnel, but I guess the 145 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: difference is maybe a little bit more aggressive, maybe a 146 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: little bit more disruptive. But there's there certainly are a 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: million different ways to skin a cat. But what's been 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: funny is just kind of hearing the differences because for Xavier, 149 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: although they've had a bunch of different coaches, they were 150 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: all really part of the same family, you know, Tree 151 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: coaching Tree, and they all kind of did it the same. 152 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: Where we do it differently doesn't mean it's better or worse. 153 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: But you know, we built really really competitive championship defenses 154 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: the last couple of years, and we've got to do 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: the same year. 156 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: On the other side, I think you guys averaged over 157 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: eighty points a game last year, second most fast break 158 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: points of game last year, so you push the pace. 159 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Do you have the personnel and bodies this year to 160 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: do that as well? 161 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Well? 162 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we certainly built our best team in year 163 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: three and year four, and you know that'll be the goal, 164 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: you know, obviously Xavier moving forward. But yeah, we want length, 165 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: we want athleticism, and you know, we were second in 166 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: the country. Like you said in fast break points, A 167 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: lot of that had to do with good defense, you know, 168 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: So we're all about defend, lead, disruption, getting deflections, blocking shots. 169 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: You know, that's something that I think Xavier didn't really 170 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: have in the past, was shot blocking. That would probably 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: be the biggest difference, although we didn't block a lot 172 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: of shots last game. But certainly we want no we 173 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: want rim pressure, we want disruption at the rim. And 174 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: if you're get to pressure the ball, you know inevitably 175 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: it's going to funnel it into the lane, and our 176 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: goal is certainly to disrupt it once it gets in there. 177 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're incredibly busy. I appreciate you making time. 178 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: Best of luck and the opener and the rest of 179 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: the way, and I hope we can catch up again soon. 180 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: All right, thank you for having me appreciate it, right. 181 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Take care there you go. Coach Richard Patino, Xavier Musketeers 182 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Monday night, Maris seven point fifteen from Sintas Center. By 183 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the way, Xavier Athletics is celebrating opening week at Cintas