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Speaker 3: I would rather them be crap talking the Broncos and

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Speaker 2: We'd see that.

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Speaker 1: It never happened that they got in a position where

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Speaker 2: It's so nice for you to be right for once.

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Speaker 2: Your face, oh your face. I love how you know.

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Speaker 1: I've been on here doing the post game now for

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Speaker 2: Know, you're welcome. It's pretty classic Ben. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are at the Buffalo twelve yard line because

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Speaker 1: It's a three to three game with about to be

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Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody was, nobody's gonna hear it. Nobody got that reference.

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Speaker 3: Somebody had Scott's like nading along. Yeah, So one of

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to bring that up right now. I think

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Speaker 1: He had a PBu past breakup and it even I

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Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, that game was egregiously officiated across

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Speaker 3: They called the DPI there, which was iffy, and then

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Speaker 3: game was just poorly officiated.

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Speaker 2: Brett, you're up next tier on Broncos. React?

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Speaker 3: What's on Brett going good?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: First of all?

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Speaker 5: Big wind tonight from the Broncos, no doubt. What I

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Speaker 2: What do you want to what do you want to

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Speaker 4: Well, it seems to be he's like immune from criticism

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Speaker 4: He's a fine he's fine in coverage, you know, ten

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Speaker 4: he simply does not have the speed. He's a half

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Speaker 4: who it is, it's against Riley Moss. Now, granted he's

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Speaker 4: aren't you allowed to ask some questions about you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, first of all, it's okay to ask questions.

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Speaker 3: But let me back up a little bit. First of all,

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Speaker 3: That's you know, that's a made up number. Let's not

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Speaker 3: let's not do that. Look, Riley plays the Broncos play

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Speaker 3: they do other things, but that's the bass play. What

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Speaker 2: Now, Riley Moss doesn't have quite the ketchup speed that

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Speaker 3: That techniques a little more difficult for him. There certainly

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Speaker 2: So he's not immune to criticism.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that a lot of the

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Speaker 2: He got here, that's gonna that's gonna happen sometimes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're gonna get targeted a ton because

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Speaker 3: It's just like when when Dion was in Dallas, right,

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Speaker 2: Riley Moss per target, not a bad corner.

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Speaker 3: But there have been some plays that he's given up

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Speaker 2: And then there's another one I had to go back.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was a Titans game or whatever, where he

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Speaker 3: So what I'm trying to say is he's not immune

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Speaker 3: They've forgotten more about football than I'll ever know. And

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's it's it's becoming a theme because

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Speaker 4: Real question is why if you're gonna draft a cornerback,

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Speaker 2: Ok.

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Speaker 4: Actually, when when Riley Moss is struggling, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: Though I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't classify Rob Moss is struggling. I mean I

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Speaker 3: He was also coming he was also playing injured. Uh

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Speaker 3: playing through. Guys are are who played below expectation tend

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Speaker 3: to be playing through an injury. They're not disclosing. I'll

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Speaker 3: just I'll let you know in any sport. That said, again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Moss is a lie ability. I

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Speaker 3: think we're looking at this through a different lens because

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Speaker 3: of what we have on that defense and around that,

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Speaker 3: and so our relativity is a bit.

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Speaker 2: Skewed on this.

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Speaker 3: Riley Moss would be a starting CB one for about

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Speaker 3: a third of the corners the third of the teams

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Speaker 3: in the league. He really would. He's a good corner.

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Speaker 3: There has just been it's it's nature the beast. The

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Speaker 3: way the rules are in the NFL, you're going to

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Speaker 3: give up some plays. And when you are the most

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Speaker 3: targeted corner in the NFL, because you play opposite Patzertan,

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Speaker 3: you're going to give up by you know, statistical, you're

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Speaker 3: just going to give up more plays. And so that's

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Speaker 3: sort of that's sort of what happens. I don't think

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Speaker 3: that Moss is struggling. I just think we're looking at

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Speaker 3: this through a different frame of reference because we see

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Speaker 3: what's on the other side and hold it up to

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Speaker 3: that standard instead of your average corner standard and go

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Speaker 3: from there. And by the way, you were right on

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Speaker 3: the text like Kevin Smith, Alvin Harper was the receiver.

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Speaker 2: I combine the names. I appreciate you handling that. I've

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Speaker 2: been I've been doing that all afternoon.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't want dog dude. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: get it, he's asking the question. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, so there's an accusation in there that that we're

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Speaker 1: protecting Riley Moss, which I think is obnoxious because nobody

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Speaker 1: he'll be protecting. Yeah, why why are we protecting Riley Moss?

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Speaker 1: Or he's not you know, we can't levy any kind

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Speaker 1: of complaints or criticism. We've we level plenty at him,

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Speaker 1: and if and if he does play with bad technique

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Speaker 1: or he does make.

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Speaker 2: A mistake, he absolutely deserves the criticism.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that it's relative to what people

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Speaker 1: think he's doing out there. Which to Frest's point what

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Speaker 1: he said in there, saying.

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Speaker 2: Look, why are you playing John A.

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Speaker 1: Burn And you know you ignored all these other positions,

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Speaker 1: they'd ignore anything. They took a guy they thought was

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Speaker 1: going to go in the top ten, They took him

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Speaker 1: at twenty, and they loaded up in a position that

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Speaker 1: most of the league wants to continue to load at

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Speaker 1: that and that you want to have a lot of

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Speaker 1: depth add and especially we saw last year when they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of depth added and they had

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Speaker 1: dealt with injuries what that ended up looking like. So

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Speaker 1: adding a developmental guy that could play maybe at a

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Speaker 1: high level early on in the season, maybe even later

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Speaker 1: in the season. He is a starting we don't really

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Speaker 1: know right now, but the fact is you're able to

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Speaker 1: work him in while you still have really talented corners playing.

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Speaker 3: I think the best way to look at the Riley

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Speaker 3: Moss situation is, look at what this team was when

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Speaker 3: Moss wasn't in there last year. Look at what Chris Adoms,

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Speaker 3: Drain and Tomorrow Mathis were giving up.

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Speaker 2: Go back and look what I remember. It was not good.

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Speaker 3: And so that that's what I'm trying, like, like, you

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Speaker 3: can tell how good a player is, even if we

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Speaker 3: think he's struggling a little whatever, by how good you

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Speaker 3: aren't when he's not in there. And that's sort of

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Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, why that is.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this and I want to put a

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Speaker 3: ball on that particular subject.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully.

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Speaker 3: I've talked to people on that coaching staff. They do

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Speaker 3: not view Riley Moss as a liability at all.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I would suggest that they would say another

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Speaker 3: corner would would be somebody that they would suggest is

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Speaker 3: a liability there before they'd say it's him.

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Speaker 1: Let's paut ten seconds for station identification. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Kiwi Broncos radio network. Ben Powers not traveling with

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Speaker 1: the Broncos to London. Jert Stidham is also not traveling,

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Speaker 1: but this is due to the birth of a child.

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Speaker 2: And still will be back.

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Speaker 3: This second child just coming back for the birth and

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Speaker 3: then he's shooting back to back to London. So uh,

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Speaker 3: and he knows the offense and just knows the offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing he needs to do out there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Sam Allinger can fit it, fill in and

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Speaker 3: get the backup reps. The few backup reps are in practice.

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Speaker 1: next week. And our coverage starts at four thirty a m.

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Speaker 2: And you, oh my god, I gotta talk to our

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Speaker 2: bosses about this, like an extra pay for this that

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Speaker 2: would be a no. But who's pucing that show?

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Speaker 1: Shan is that you No, Shan is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: here for thirty He has to do that every day

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Speaker 2: Get senior and he's like, no, let me leave with

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Speaker 2: Is that all here that Shannon Scott's gold you guys,

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Speaker 2: do you guys miss out of the comedy? All right?

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Speaker 2: Three or three seven, three eighty five? Let's see here, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: You're up next year.

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Speaker 1: On Broncos React Run untill nine o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Terry? Yeah? What's up? Man?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I just want to say I didn't get to

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Speaker 6: watch a game. I'm not a huge Broncos fan. I

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Speaker 6: watched them when I can. I didn't get to watch

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Speaker 6: this game, but I tuned in right after you read

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Speaker 6: out that text message that really got you fired up.

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Speaker 6: And obviously it's just the Riley Boss, right, Yeah. I

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Speaker 6: didn't even get to hear what the tech said. Well,

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Speaker 6: all I'm gonna say, man, is you know I'm with Ben.

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Speaker 6: It's just like, listen, we won. Why why are we

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Speaker 6: so negative?

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 6: Holy cow? We we we pulled it off. We've watched

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Speaker 6: what two games in a row, three games in a

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Speaker 6: row with one point differential, and we came back in

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Speaker 6: the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: I'm that's great. They called me the wet blanket and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 6: I I know I hear you, and uh yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think the other thing too. Is just just you know, again,

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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm sure I called in as an outside

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Speaker 6: huge football fan because I'm not. And it's one of

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Speaker 6: those things I'm hearing everyone talk about, Hey, this guy's

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Speaker 6: getting targeted. Riley Moss is getting targeted. He's getting targeted. Okay, well,

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Speaker 6: aren't there ten other people on the field.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the coach should should the.

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Speaker 6: Coaching staff maybe help them if that they feel he's

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Speaker 6: not up to the standard. And then if he's not

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Speaker 6: up to standard, obviously we don't have anyone anyone else.

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Speaker 6: So I kind of feel like it's just one of

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Speaker 6: those things that like, hey, we made it through. I

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Speaker 6: don't think you got it. Doesn't sound like.

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Speaker 7: You got burnt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, he's he's he's doing what he can and

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Speaker 6: let's let's let's be positive about it and take from Hey,

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Speaker 6: we got to win. And I'm sure they're going to

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Speaker 6: look at film and either the coaching staff is going

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Speaker 6: to make some changes and help them or you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we'll make some changes. But what what what went wrong? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: He got he he got beat a few times.

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Speaker 4: I'll get beat. So yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Just wanted to throw that one out there of just hey,

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Speaker 6: we got we got more of a team. Today is

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Speaker 6: a positive win from from the champs. So let's let's

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Speaker 6: keep going, Let's keep rocking, let's let the momentum go

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Speaker 6: and I'm sure we'll figure out Rightley moss of whatever

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Speaker 6: needs to happen. But yeah, we got to win.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. All right, Thank you for the call, Terry, appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I'm with it, and I love the positivity.

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Speaker 3: You know, this team could I mean, outside of the

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Speaker 3: Bengals came, all the other games could have gone kind

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Speaker 3: of either way. Uh this this Keeap could just as

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Speaker 3: easily be five and oh as it could be one

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Speaker 3: and four.

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Speaker 2: You know. But but the thing about it is is

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Speaker 2: finding ways to win versus finding ways to lose. And

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Speaker 2: you're hoping that today is a reflection of that, finding

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Speaker 2: ways to win versus the coming up short in the

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Speaker 2: back to back game against the Chargers and Colts. And again,

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Speaker 2: philadelf is a good team. They're a good football team.

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Speaker 2: What was the statu of Saqua bark had nine total

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Speaker 2: touches today? That that's obscene. But you know, if if

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Speaker 2: good teams want to beat themselves doing stuff like that, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're happy to oblige.

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Speaker 3: Uh I just feel like this is a confidence builder.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a good I think this is

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Speaker 3: a good way going forward with his team.

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Speaker 2: Uh, because it's you no longer with that win.

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Speaker 3: Get to make the argument about this team can't beat

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Speaker 3: good teams, right, which has been the knock on Sean

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Speaker 3: Dats this has been in Denver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they beat up on the bad teams. They win

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Speaker 2: the games they should. They beat the Carolinas of the world,

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Speaker 2: and then the Cincinnatis and all that, but they don't

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Speaker 2: beat the Chargers. They don't beat uh, you know, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: or Baltimore or whatever. You beat Philly today in their

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Speaker 2: on their home turf on a short week. Nobody could

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Speaker 2: take that from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the text I that you missed earlier was

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Speaker 1: and then you guys can go listen to it in

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Speaker 1: the we'll put we'll podcast everything. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: buff Bills finally get it into the end zone, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen to Curtis Samuel for a six yard touchdown. They

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Speaker 1: pull ahead. It looks like it would be a ten

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Speaker 1: six early in the third quarter. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: somebody had texted in earlier saying that Riley Moss didn't

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Speaker 1: belong in the NFL. So the discourse at Riley Moss

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Speaker 1: it seems so, I don't know, so divisive. I'm not

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Speaker 1: really sure why. I'm not sure why Riley Moss is

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Speaker 1: so divisive, but he is. And that was the text

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Speaker 1: that I was kind of reacting to, is saying that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't belong in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He does, he certainly shouldn't be starting.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, we led to a lot of

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Speaker 1: discussion and points about well the Broncos drafted a first

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Speaker 1: round cornerback wise, he not playing more, and so on

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Speaker 1: and so forth. So kind of got out of hand

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Speaker 1: for a little bit today. But again you can listen

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Speaker 1: to it on the podcast. I got a little snippy

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Speaker 1: with him because of that, but it's got to happen.

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Speaker 1: Sportstok Radio, we get into debates. John, you're up next

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Speaker 1: to your on Broncos React from Portland. What's up, John?

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Speaker 7: Hey, I'm a long time fan, but I wasn't around. Well,

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Speaker 7: I was around, but I wasn't paying attention in the sixties.

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Speaker 7: But when they said that thing today about how in

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Speaker 7: our history we played one hundred before today, one hundred

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Speaker 7: and thirteen road games where we were behind by two touchdowns,

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Speaker 7: or more in the fourth quarter and we'd only won

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Speaker 7: one of them. And I have been racking my brain

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Speaker 7: ever since trying to think what was that game? And

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Speaker 7: I know you guys probably have statisticians or people who

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm just curious to find out with an

656
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Speaker 7: n L way game, what was the game where we

657
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Speaker 7: came back by two touchdowns or more on the road

658
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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter in our history before today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll see if I can take a look and

660
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Speaker 1: see if Tyler I got Tyler Gorse usually tweets out

661
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Speaker 1: random stats like that, so let me go see if

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Speaker 1: he u two touchdowns on the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the road. I want to say Russell Wilson

664
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Speaker 2: did that in the comeback against.

665
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Speaker 3: I'll have to go back. I'll have to go back

666
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Speaker 3: and look. I think that was the last time. I

667
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Speaker 3: think it would be Russ.

668
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not one hundred because Bo may have done that.

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Speaker 2: Last year. Was the Cincinnati game? Right? How many was there?

670
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Speaker 2: Two four quarter touchdowns? And they didn't win that game?

671
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Speaker 3: You had to come back and win, Okay, come back

672
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Speaker 3: and win. Yeah, I have to go back and look.

673
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Speaker 3: I think it's I'm pretty sure Russ did it. The

674
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: question is if Bo did it before Russ did it. Yeah, Mikey,

675
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Speaker 3: you up next to Broncos react.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Mikey.

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, you got me, We got you great. Thanks

678
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Speaker 8: for taking a call. Just had a quick thought for you.

679
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Speaker 8: Seemed like today was one of a few games in

680
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Speaker 8: recent memory, but definitely a good example of when the

681
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 8: scheme on the coaching side and the execution on the

682
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 8: defense side especially came together as a whole really well.

683
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Speaker 8: My main example of that is how we could keep

684
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Speaker 8: them out of third and short, third and fourth and

685
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 8: short and have them avoid the push push and all

686
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Speaker 8: of that stuff. It seemed like that the execution by

687
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 8: the players and the play calling by the coaches really

688
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 8: threw their game plan off. And I'll get off the line.

689
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Speaker 8: Let you guys respond. Just wanted to see what you

690
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 8: thought about that, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Thanks, Mikey. Yeah, I think you know, I think

692
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Speaker 2: there were a couple of different things.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I thought Sean did pretty good on

694
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: attacking Vic's defense where it's weak.

695
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: You saw a lot of those sprint out hit the

696
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: flat plays.

697
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: Vic's defense is weak in the flats we saw Derek

698
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: Carr used to tear us up in the flats. That's

699
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: why the Raiders won so many games against the center row.

700
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Speaker 3: If you're willing to stay patient in the flats and

701
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: then take your chances, you could beat that defense. Although

702
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: it is the vogue defense still in the modern NFL.

703
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: So I thought, I thought the game plan there, especially

704
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: with those like those those sprint to at plays to

705
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: the white side of the field, I thought those were

706
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: really good idea, and so I thought that that was

707
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: a great way to attack the defense. On the other

708
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: side of things, there were some head scratchers that I'm like,

709
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? The wheel play to Saquan,

710
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: what do you do when calling one robber in that

711
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: particular situation. I think I think they thought they were

712
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: going to catch the Eagles napping, and the Eagles were

713
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: absolutely not napping. They had it dialed up, and we've

714
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: seen the wheel be successful against this defense before. Right,

715
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: Certainly the hardballs loved to both of them love to

716
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: run it against the Broncos. So yeah, that's one thing

717
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: that the anytime you run on CE one, you're susceptible

718
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: to that if your linebacker cannot cover or can't hang

719
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Speaker 3: with a guy in coverage. You are definitely susceptible that

720
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: will play because you know your quarterbacks are riding the

721
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Speaker 3: rails on the on the clear out routes. What are

722
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: you gonna do? You got nobody there.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: More of your calls, more of your texts, coming up

725
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: next on the KWA Broncos radio network. A big game

726
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: in the fifty five yarder sort of set a bit

727
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Speaker 1: of a tone there. Broncos kind of need to get

728
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: some points there. They got an early three to nothing lead.

729
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: The Eagles moved down the field right after that settle

730
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: for a Jake Elliott thirty one yarder. I mean it

731
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: was a close game through I mean certainly through most

732
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Speaker 1: of the first half, right and I mean it was

733
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: ten to three at halftime. You were like, all right, well,

734
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: certainly some missed opportunities. I thought it was kind of

735
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: weird they picked up the flag on the Marvin Mims

736
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: pass interference the DPI there on the far right side.

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Speaker 1: Did you see something in that, because I because at

738
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: least in our moment we were looking at it from here,

739
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Speaker 1: it looked like it was a legit call, Like even

740
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: had a.

741
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Speaker 2: Piece of his face mask there.

742
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of shielded when you watch it on

743
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: the replay. Yeah, so you know, I don't know.

744
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: My guess is is that it looked like he grabbed

745
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: it when reality was probably just incidental and they just

746
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: let that go. I but to pick up the flag,

747
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: I thought was it was a big moment.

748
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what it took points off the

749
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: bo somebody threw a flag and then somebody else again.

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Speaker 2: That officiating crew, I've got all the bones to pick.

751
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: They made egregious calls every which way beofore and against

752
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: Denver in that game. One of the textas was pointing

753
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: out a play that should have been offsetting penalties on

754
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: the the DPI where Jade was being held jail Skinner,

755
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: which get.

756
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Speaker 2: Him off the field, keep him off the field.

757
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: Well he did get jail Skinner, got a call for one,

758
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: and then he did the very next play right after

759
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: he got called, he did it again and got flagged

760
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: and didn't I've gone back and look at a few

761
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: of these, I've looked at the whole thing to break

762
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Speaker 3: it all.

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Speaker 2: Down, but there was there was.

764
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Speaker 3: This was as poorly officiated an NFL game as I've

765
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Speaker 3: seen in quite some time. I'm not sure that officiating

766
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: made the difference one way or another. Obviously, every team

767
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: that's losing is always going to say the officiating did,

768
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Speaker 3: But I don't think it did. I just think it

769
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: was a very poorly officiated game, and both these teams

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Speaker 3: kind of played through that.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots just punched in a touchdown with Romandra Stevens

772
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Speaker 1: and your guys back.

773
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: I need him right now. Do you have a chance

774
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Speaker 2: to win this week?

775
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: I do, really, Yeah, I'm gonna finally get off the schneid.

776
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: In fact, I've scored more points this week than I

777
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: did the last two weeks combined.

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Speaker 2: Wow, is this in our league? League? Okay, I don't

779
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: know about the other I have to look at the

780
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: other one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well that's that's good, Ben. I'm happy

782
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: for you finally get off all the injuries to my

783
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: lot of injuries, Ceedee lamb Elak, Neighbors, brock Bowers, Mike

784
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: Evans all just going down.

785
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Well, in fairness, you don't have those in all one league?

786
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Those are two of those? Evans are on that team? Well, no,

787
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: because I had neighbors in that league. Yes, in the

788
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: in the in the iHeart league, I had neighbors. Oh,

789
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: so I know that for a fact you didn't have.

790
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: It's Lamb, Bowers and whatever on that league, and then

791
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: in the other one it's neighbors and Evans.

792
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Speaker 1: So it was a hell of a drive by the

793
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: way with Drake May. Drake May was making some pretty

794
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: impressive throws there. Stevan Diggs having a nice game against

795
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: his former team. Five catches for eighty one yards, including

796
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: a thirty one yard moments ago. So Patriots are now

797
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: up thirteen to ten, six thirty four remaining in the

798
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Speaker 1: third quarter. Back to the text line five six six

799
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Speaker 1: nine zero this one. I'm sickened by some of the

800
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: people calling in complaining about Riley Moss. The two wins

801
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: we had were against crap teams who won on the

802
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: road against defending Super Bowl champion.

803
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: The Chiefs did not beat them this year.

804
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: If we had lost it, it would have been it

805
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: would have not been on Moss. You should not take

806
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: any more calls about the topic focused on the sack, Sutton,

807
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: et cetera.

808
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: No, listen, we take the calls and we talk about

809
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: what you guys want.

810
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: Time.

811
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we we screened them for sure, but

812
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: it's not.

813
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: It's not one of those like where we were shit,

814
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean for me? Yeah, it's

815
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: a topic. It was a topic I kind of I

816
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: got blown out of proportion a little bit earlier on

817
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: by some I don't know, some bad actors when it

818
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: comes to the discussion. And unfortunately it wasn't a fair topic.

819
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: So it kind of became a bit of a theme

820
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: for the show. It's a weird deal though, because it's

821
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: a it's such a big win and I'm not saying

822
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: they all have to be sunshine and rainbows and lollipops and.

823
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the chance looking for the song.

824
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't all have to be that, but

825
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: at the same time, there needs to be a level

826
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of I don't know.

827
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: Fair discourse.

828
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well something that hasn't got talked about

829
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: that was a positive in this game, and it's normally

830
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: not a positive when you're doing this. But Jeremy Crawshaw

831
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: punting seven punts in this game, five of the inside

832
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: the twenty. Only one of them went for a touchback.

833
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: I thought he punted the ball pretty well overall. One

834
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: of the punts was a little shaky. The rest of

835
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: them I thought was pretty good overall, especially for a

836
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: guy who had some shaky preseason stuff.

837
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: He's punted pretty well during the season. Ryan, This one, Ryan.

838
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: From Peterson Air Force based great game in a wild

839
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: nine on the post game. Yeah, no doubt Broncos fans

840
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: need to learn how to win again. The last decade

841
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: has left left us salty. Hey there's something to that.

842
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I mean, we got in

843
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: a sense of that.

844
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: I'd say when I was doing Broncos React right before

845
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson era, there was just this expected losing

846
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: mentality and you just sort of always thought bad things

847
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: were coming. Yeah, and even when you had good things,

848
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, but yeah, but and I understand. I mean,

849
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a nature, sort of a fandom. It's the nature.

850
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: And even then this season, when the Broncos would play

851
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: well or do good things, there's like, well, they're not

852
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: doing this. They couldn't beat the Ravens with this kind

853
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: of game plan. They couldn't beat the Bills with this

854
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of game plan. It's like, okay, well, yeah, but

855
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to beat those teams today. You had

856
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: to beat the team in front of you. And then

857
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: you work on being a better team so that when

858
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: you do see the Ravens and the Bills, but it's

859
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: by the way, Ravens are not a good team at

860
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: this point. When you do see those teams, then you

861
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: have a chance to go toe to toe with them

862
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: and maybe.

863
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: Get a win. It's bad relationship syndrome. Yeah, that's what

864
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: it is.

865
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm scared to open up my heart again.

866
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to get hurt again. I'm just saying.

867
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: And there's a little bit of that you got to

868
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: You do have to learn how to win again as

869
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: a fan base, you know. I mean you do kind

870
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: of have to have to learn how to do that

871
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: because you know, I've seen that, and I've seen teams

872
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: that you know that suddenly get hot. Then you got

873
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: a fan starts feeling themselves, they get all arrogant on that.

874
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: You know, you got to learn how to You got

875
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: to learn how to do both. You got to learn

876
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: how to lose gracefully and win and win gracefully too.

877
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: Ryan, Are you about to turn into Michael Douglas from

878
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: falling down? Sometimes I feel like that. I feel like

879
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: I held it together for the most part in this

880
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: post game, but there were a couple of moments where

881
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: it was touch and go.

882
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: I could see you in the Michael Douglas haircut and

883
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: outfit from falling down in a minute since I watched

884
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: that movie, right, I'm the bad guy?

885
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: How did you have that on standby? Oh my god?

886
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that movie. Is something else. That's remark that

887
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: is a good movie, all right?

888
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Three or three seven one, three, eighty five, eighty five, five, six,

889
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: six nine zero or kwa Commasperry Health text line. The

890
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are now at the Patriots thirty three, trailing

891
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: by three. It's been a good game, though kind of sloppy,

892
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: a lot of penalties. It's I don't know, we'll sort

893
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: of see what happens. Josh Allen does convert a past

894
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: the Dalton k k who's been really good. Last year

895
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of seemed like a bit of a lost year

896
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: for Dalton Kincaid. He's really battled back. He's been pretty

897
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: consistent for this off. He's got five catches for eighty

898
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: five yards. You know, that was an interesting one because

899
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: don't conc of course, draft in the first round, a

900
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: lot of high expectations when you're a guy. Draft in

901
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the first round, much like our guy Jade Baron. So

902
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: everybody's sitting you're like, well, your first round or so,

903
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: you should be a day one stud if not pro

904
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: bowler or all pro.

905
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: That's just not what Advance does. Like he brings rookies

906
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: along really slowly. And you know people, you know, Pats

907
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: or Tam wouldn't start right away. That's not the advanced

908
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: Joseph thing.

909
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like there's you know, you go

910
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: back and look at the Advance's history, and he just

911
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: he brings young guys along real slow. He just does

912
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: not have a trust in rookies for whatever reason. And

913
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a byproduct of the aggressive style

914
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: of defense that they play.

915
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: Means that if one little thing breaks, you're in a

916
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: bad way. And so I think he just does not

917
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: He's slow to trust young players until they prove themselves

918
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: over and over in practice. I don't think it's a

919
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: reflection on where Jada is as a player. I think

920
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: it's more of a reflection of who Vance Joseph is

921
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: as a coordinator.

922
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: All right, we will come back. We'll keep you updating

923
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: on Sunday football.

924
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: With the Bills and the Patriots, Ryan Edwards, Benjamin Albright

925
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: well right back on the KAE Broncos Radio Network. Hands

926
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: he's off to Trevion Henderson. Traylon Henderson hasn't really popped

927
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: quite yet for the Patriots. He looked really good in preseason.

928
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Once again, before you say anything that's preseason, I understand,

929
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying that there was a lot of expectation.

930
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: He was drafted relatively high, and Totio Gibson, by the way,

931
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: ended up getting injured on kickoff. So he's out of

932
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: this game, so as Ramondre Stevenson and Travion Henderson. But

933
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: I've been a little I mean this is again sort

934
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: of an acknowledgment. Sometimes when it comes to rookie players,

935
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: really all players, but including running backs, sometimes it takes

936
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of time to get to get going,

937
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't it.

938
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sometimes it does.

939
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: As we've seen, I guess from two seasons of bon Nicks,

940
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: I can take you a few games, can take you

941
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: a little bit of in a game to get going

942
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: as far as this stuff goes, So certainly I think

943
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: one of the Texters texted in something, but I know

944
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: this can't be right.

945
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: And with all due respect to the three or seven.

946
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to throw you out of the bus

947
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 2: or anything.

948
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 8: He said.

949
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: The only time Bronco came back down two or more

950
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: touchdowns on the road before today was Peyton Manning against

951
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: the Chargers in twenty twelve. I know that can't be right.

952
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: The Broncos were down twenty one to seven in Chicago

953
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: to the Bears. Was it when Russ brought him back

954
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: with seventh Remember they did? They came back when that one.

955
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Russ had seven points to the third quarter and seventeen

956
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: points the fourth quarter and the Broncos won thirty one

957
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: twenty eight.

958
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: Well, and they had a defensive touchdown in that one

959
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: of those was Yeah.

960
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: Cooper had the fumble recovery, but Courtland scored a touchdown,

961
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: and I want to say Brandon.

962
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: Johnson maybe had the other touchdown in that one.

963
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I had to go back and look, I'm

964
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: not a hundred on that, but I know I know

965
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: Russ did it at least once.

966
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

967
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: I know Russell Wilson did at least once, and I

968
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: thought more than that, but I know he did at

969
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: least once. So no, that twenty twelve stat not correct

970
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: from the three or seven. With all due respect, and

971
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to again throw you out of the bus.

972
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I know for a fact that Russ

973
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: brought us back from two touchdowns down. So that's an

974
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: incredible catch by Stefan Digs. By the way, the toe

975
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: drag watched this thing, he's like horizontal to the field,

976
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: ridiculous catch.

977
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: He's now got seven catches for ninety three yards. As

978
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots are trying to hold on to a win year,

979
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: that'd be a big win. I mean, the Bills are

980
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: the only undefeated team right now.

981
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: Under that's that what you have.

982
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was on the under on this, but yeah,

983
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: this is one of those is one of those games

984
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: that's way under. By the way, our Vikings Browns game

985
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: didn't quite hit the under, No, I know.

986
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: We were both of the Vikings, although you were on

987
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: the Browns plus three and a half that did'tended up

988
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: working either, But yeah, because of the Vikings plus thir

989
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: and a half, it ended up being four.

990
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

991
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I was like you talked about heartbreakers last night the

992
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: CU game. If you had gotten in at c U

993
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: plus thirteen and a half, which somebody in this room did.

994
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: And that final touchdown yeah, covered by fourteen. Oh just

995
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: hurt feelers. Oh was so sick. It was bad enough

996
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: to lose that game and and certainly frustrating, but to

997
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: lose that game and lose the cover was Yeah, it

998
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: was gross.

999
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, today some.

1000
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Wild outcomes, especially in the afternoon. You, by the way,

1001
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: I'll get to put the cap to you.

1002
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: You you covered.

1003
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: You did a pretty good job in the morning slate,

1004
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Like you were on the Saints today against the Giants.

1005
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: You're on the Cowboys versus Jets. That's partly your hatred

1006
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: of the Jets and Justine Fields hatred of anything.

1007
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: It's just a recognition that Justin Fields sucks out loud.

1008
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: You were on the Texans over the Ravens, so give

1009
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: you that one. You were on the Dolphins. I was

1010
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: on the Dolphins side of that one in the Miami

1011
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh God, they choked that thing away. Yeah, that was

1012
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: what it was.

1013
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: And they were up seventeen nothing, and then they were

1014
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: up again, like twenty four to twenty I think it was.

1015
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: They still found a way to snatch defeat from the

1016
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: jaws of victory. So the morning Slate was actually pretty good.

1017
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: For you overall, a couple of misses, but mostly mostly

1018
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: good bye way. How about my guy Rico Dabele, God, God,

1019
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: what do you have?

1020
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Two hundred and something yard two hundred and six rushing yards?

1021
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: And then he had what did he have receiving?

1022
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: He ever said, I know he had over to nun

1023
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: on the ground, though he also had.

1024
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Three catches for twenty eight though, so two hundred and

1025
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: almost two hundred and forty yards.

1026
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: Could ever even go back to tub Hubbard at this point?

1027
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean, none of Freako Daddle was going to continue

1028
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: to do something like that. But anyways, the Morty slow

1029
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: was good for you. The afternoons slate, on the other hand,

1030
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't bad for me, But man, it was some.

1031
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: It was some Titans.

1032
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: The Titans beaten Commanders. The Arizona had the biggest choke

1033
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: of the day. I don't even I still don't understand

1034
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: how they lost that game. They was up twenty one

1035
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: to six with Dean Marcato about to cross the busting

1036
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: a seventy yard or drop the ball. Crossing the end

1037
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: zone would have made it twenty eight to six, and

1038
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: somehow managed to just lose that thing. The the interception

1039
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: it was all tied. You intercept cam Ward and then

1040
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: fumble the interception away. The ball bounces off four people,

1041
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: rolls into the end zone and Tyler Lockett falls on.

1042
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: It ow and once again Dean Mercado like, as you mentioned,

1043
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: fumbling in at the goal line.

1044
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we just.

1045
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: Had an example this last week. So you used to

1046
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: mention jonth the Taylor, which was last year. We had

1047
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: an example of eighty Mitchell doing it this.

1048
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Last week last week. Yeah, it's like happened twice now

1049
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: in two weeks.

1050
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: You're either coaching something or you're allowing it to happen.

1051
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: And that's a comment I'm making about a friend. Yeah,

1052
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: we're both on the Bucks.

1053
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, answered, I was on the wrong.

1054
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: Side of Washington Chargers. So how dare I doubt my

1055
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: commander in chief Dan Quinn? I had the Commanders.

1056
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: How how dare I? I actually wondered because I was.

1057
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: So high on the Commanders in that game, because the

1058
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: last time, the last time I was high on the Commanders,

1059
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: and that was the Packers game. You were like, I

1060
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: am the opposite of that. The Packers are going to

1061
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: win this game, and I own and I did not

1062
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: heed your advice. So this morning when we did, which

1063
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: was like twelve thirteen hours ago, at this point, is

1064
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: the best three six five open?

1065
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: He lied.

1066
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, I'm on the Commander's side

1067
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: of this thing. That might be bad, but they really

1068
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: did control this thing. I mean, I was, You're right.

1069
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: It was ten and then and then it was all

1070
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Commanders threast of the way.

1071
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: Once Kawan Martin got that fumble, the entire premise of

1072
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: the game changed. And then the Commanders still had a

1073
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: you know, the Chargers still had a chance at this thing.

1074
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: They were they were on the one yard line, and

1075
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, Greg Roman Is isling up pass plays

1076
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: instead of just punching. You got Justin Herbert back there,

1077
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: just to a tousch push and get that thing in there.

1078
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: They're dialing up pass plays, and Standard still or whatever

1079
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: picked him off, and then it was over.

1080
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: After that.

1081
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: I like this text, of course, the end of the night.

1082
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: People are so funny, too funny. The Broncos are nowhere

1083
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: near a playoff team. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

1084
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: Bonis will never play in the Super Bowl. Worst quarterback

1085
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: in the league.

1086
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: All right.

1087
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: The first thing is kind of silly, but I'll let

1088
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: you go with that to be in your opinion, like

1089
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: nowhere near a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: We don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I mean they look like a playoff team to me,

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00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: blind squirrel, okay whatever, Bonix may never play a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you that worst quarterback in the league, bro,

1094
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: We're playing the worst quarterback in the league coming up

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: in Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields make Russell Wilson look like Joe Montana. He's

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00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: so bad. I just I do not understand. I remember

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: when people wanted us like, we're.

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00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: Upset, we're up one to fire George Payton because he

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00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: drafted Patzertan the raiding defensive play of the year. Oh

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00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: for Justin Fields, a running back playing quarterback on his

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00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: third team in three years.

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00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a real thing. Wolf. I just I don't

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00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: get it, man.

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you're not a Broncos fan, and that's fine,

1106
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: but also listening to a Broncos postgame show to text

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00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: in things like that, like look what does that say

1108
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: about you? Let's just say, for instance, you're just not

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00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: a Broncos fan.

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00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: I would rather the Denver Broncos bring Tim Tebow back

1111
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 3: than see Justin Fields play Wow, that's a statement.

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00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: That's how bad he is. At least Tebow won games.

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00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: All right, we got more of your texts coming up next.

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00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: We got a call on.

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00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Hold as well.

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00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: We got to take a quick break though. Well bright

1117
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: back on the KWA Broncos radio network. If you ask

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00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Eagles fans, when all of a sudden, the refs decided

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00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: not to call any flags for any holding or pass interference,

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00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: but there were moments where for passer Tan as well

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00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: for Riley Moss that it felt like every single time

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00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: they had a pass breakup is gonna be some kind

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00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: of penalty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about my guy Nick Benito? Man, how about

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00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: Nick playing the city? He got paid and he's not

1126
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: fat and happy. He's out there earning the contract. That

1127
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: dude's trying to hit those escalators. He's goin to hit

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00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: them too.

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00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: Remandra Stevenson punching into another touchdown, much to my chagrin.

1130
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: The Patriots are up twenty to ten over the Bills,

1131
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: twelve ten left in the fourth, so we might see

1132
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: our last undefeated go down, and then Miami gets to

1133
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: pop the champagne bottles.

1134
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's only one team that's all losses this season.

1135
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: I won't mention that team and their crappy quarterback anymore,

1136
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: but the.

1137
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: Jets at to five and o three at home, that's

1138
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: just that's brutal man Like you brought it in Justin Fields,

1139
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: and again it's hope. It's the hope that kills you.

1140
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: Why would there be hope with Justin Fields, a guy

1141
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: who has never won more than five games in an

1142
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: entire season in his career.

1143
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, don't overlook the Jets this next week, Bro,

1144
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: They're going to steamroll them.

1145
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Strawberry Fields, Missus Field's cookies don't matter.

1146
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna be so funny this week. I actually, you

1147
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: know what, My question is, how many snaps is Toron

1148
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: Taylor gonna get in that game? You know what, I'm

1149
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: gonna be exuberant alway, I'm the driest of blankets right now.

1150
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Usually I find some of your puns pretty obnoxious and

1151
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: just unnecessary, but in this case, I'm actually kind of

1152
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: excited about this week.

1153
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: That's gonna to be nothing but positivity all week long,

1154
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: as the Broncos are going to absolutely lambast the Jets

1155
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: and put the little in six. George Peyton is going

1156
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: to show his understudy Darren Moogie.

1157
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: How it's done. Listen, you idiot, this is the guy

1158
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: you wanted. Look at the guy I drafted over here.

1159
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like the Jets had a lot

1160
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: of other options, right, I mean they have a better

1161
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: option at backup right now? They do Not to Rod

1162
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: Taylor is a better quarterback than Justin Fields.

1163
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't believe that.

1164
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: That is you? How can you not believe that you've

1165
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: seen both of them play. I mean there was a

1166
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: time I might have thought. I don't think there was

1167
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: a time when you were trying to sell everybody on

1168
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: the Justin Fields sing. I remember, we all remember the

1169
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: North doesn't forget Ryan Pepperish far. Over the course of

1170
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 3: his career, Torod Taylor is twenty eight, twenty nine and

1171
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: one as a starter. Justin Fields is fourteen and thirty

1172
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: three and oh in twenty six when any team scores

1173
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: twenty or more points on a team he's playing because

1174
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: he can't score. Like I said, I'm kind of looking

1175
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 3: forward to this week, and especially because's in light of

1176
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: a win, you get a chance to really have fun

1177
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 3: not only with the win, but also with this matchup

1178
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: coming up.

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00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: Because the Broncos really should win this one.

1180
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: What do you think is the most yards justin fields

1181
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: past four a season, just ballpark, the most yards in

1182
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: a season. Now, he's ever past four in the season.

1183
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: It's the largest number of yards he's passed four a season. Well,

1184
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: he does a lot with his legs, so sure, sure

1185
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: takes a lot of sacks. Twenty eight hundred, not even

1186
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: close twenty five hundred in his best season, but.

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Speaker 2: Not Includinghio Ohio State though, I mean, you're just doing

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00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 2: pro Yeah, I'm kind of college stats. There's college stats

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00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: we shoved at college.

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00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury and Timmy Chang would be would be Hall

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00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: of Fame pros.

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00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: We brought up their college stats. He cares about that.

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00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: I kind of want to look up his college stats now, okay, yeah,

1194
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: because you want to make yourself feel good. This is

1195
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: the same guy who's best touchdown throwing season had seventeen

1196
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: touchdowns his best season. Well, you are a hater by

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00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: the way that season that he had the seventeen touchdowns,

1198
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: so it should rip it. It just just crushing the league.

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Speaker 3: The seventeen touchdowns, so eleven eleven interceptions. He led the

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00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: league in sacks with fifty.

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Speaker 1: Five that year to twenty nineteen, he passed for three thousand,

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00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy three care we did Ohio State.

1203
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: I could break out Steven Montes's stats if you want to,

1204
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: We could have that there.

1205
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Air Bontes was out here ripping it up in Colorado.

1206
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: What are you doing the pros again? This is actually

1207
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: some of your best work. Justin Fields stinks. You're not

1208
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: gonna pretend otherwise. Oh, I'm so not.

1209
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: This whole week is just gonna be me crapping on

1210
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: Justin Fields. Nick Ferguson is even gonna be Okay, this

1211
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: is a bit much. You mean, nottin positive. This kid's

1212
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: gonna sit.

1213
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 2: Here and be like, Ben, you gotta stop, you gotta stop. Yeah,

1214
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Broncos Country tonight this week is gonna You're almost gonna

1215
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: be glorious.

1216
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: If you, if you, if you are looking for Broncos positivity,

1217
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: there's no greater bastion of Broncos positivity than Broncos Country

1218
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: tonight this week.

1219
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's impossible because of who you are. No, no,

1220
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: it is. You should tune in and find out. Oh

1221
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: I will for the least the first half hours.

1222
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm driving home we're rebranding the show is Justin Field's

1223
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: Hate Country tonight.

1224
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I will say that I appreciate you just leading in

1225
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: all the way, because there was a time when I

1226
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: used to bring up your hatred for Justin Fields and

1227
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I know, hate him.

1228
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: I think he's fine. I just don't think he's.

1229
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: Very I just hate that he's taking opportunities away from

1230
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: real quarterbacks.

1231
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: I hate you know what. I wouldn't even say. I know,

1232
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: I know, don't say it. Don't say it, good God,

1233
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: don't say it. Don't turn the show to politics show

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00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: all right?

1235
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Our last segment coming up next to the gate way

1236
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Broncos Radio Network, and it actually probably was a little

1237
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: too close.

1238
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: It was like really close it hit the hands. I

1239
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: don't even whose hands did it hit? Well A J.

1240
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: Brown, I think Devonte Smiths and Brown was behind him

1241
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: or whatever, and they basically knocked the ball out of

1242
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: each other's hands.

1243
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: And I saw tell he know who Fonda kind of

1244
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: there was two Broncos players that were in on it.

1245
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: But it looked to me like and I had to

1246
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: go back and look at it again. But I watched

1247
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: it when I was watching it right as it happened,

1248
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: and much in the replays it looked like the two

1249
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: Eagles players actually got in each other's way.

1250
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you wind up with two

1251
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: guys in the same spot. Normally you want one guy

1252
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: by the yard back, so if there's if there's a

1253
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: tip drill, he's back there to catch the tip drill

1254
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: and play at the feet. So it looked like whoever

1255
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: was mind there, which I think was a j Brown

1256
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: if I remember correctly it's been a long day, made

1257
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: the mistake. He should have been deeper and sitting back

1258
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: and waiting for waiting for a tip up. There was

1259
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: a moment at a little scary though you did see

1260
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: I think it was Brandon Jones as the ball came down,

1261
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: like swapped the madrumble the ball to the ground and

1262
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: a very smart play by Joe. It's a very alert play.

1263
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Don't let that ball be in the air any longer

1264
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: than you have to. But I'm pretty sure it was

1265
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: aj Brown. It was in a wrong spot. Shuld have

1266
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: been about a yard behind him in the back of

1267
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And I think ideally, of course, you know, the Broncos

1269
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: offense closes things out on their own and they were

1270
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: really close to it. I mean if they if they

1271
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: would have had maybe a fourth and short, it would

1272
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: have been interesting to see what the the Broncos option

1273
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: would have done. They were third and nine, remember, and

1274
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Bonix dropped back to pass. It ended up just eating

1275
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: it and running some clock. But if it would have

1276
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: been a fourth and short instead of kicking the field goal,

1277
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: for will what Sean Payton had already shown the mindset. No,

1278
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying, like you wonder because of

1279
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: how aggressive he had been kicked field goal.

1280
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I wouldn't kick the field goal.

1281
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: I would kick the field goal. I'm saying I wonder. No,

1282
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: don't speak shit.

1283
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: Is Sean Payton has listened to this show right, he's

1284
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: streaming it on the flight over to London. Do not

1285
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: speak that into his ear because then he's like, you

1286
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: know what, I could be more aggressive next time.

1287
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: We could get both another tunny.

1288
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: No, because he wouldn't want to listen to you for

1289
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: three hours And that's no offense to you.

1290
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: That's just an all He needs to know what I'm saying,

1291
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: so that he controlled me like that's his whole Is

1292
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: that what it is? Every game is just trolling me, me, me, me,

1293
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: more me and me too.

1294
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: Imagine being that's full of yourself.

1295
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills just drove down the field Josh Allen

1296
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: touchdown to Keon Coleman.

1297
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: So now is the twenty seventeen game. Patriots up by

1298
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: three with seven thirty seven remaining in the gable. See

1299
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: what Drake may can do here. Stefan Diggs is on

1300
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: a heater nine catches for one hundred and thirty four

1301
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: yards against his former team. You knew they were going

1302
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: to find a way a concerted effort to get him

1303
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Speaker 1: the ball tonight. It's it's weird how he takes this

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Speaker 1: situation personally, but I think that that's kind of indicative

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Speaker 1: of most players and former players.

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Speaker 2: It's always a chip on your shoulder, whether it's creative

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Speaker 2: or wise.

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Speaker 1: Because he has some great seasons there with the Bills,

1309
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Speaker 1: but it was clearly time for them to move on,

1310
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Speaker 1: just as much as it was for him to eventually

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Speaker 1: now find his way to the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's the Chauncey Gardner Johnson of the

1314
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Speaker 2: offense or anything, but there's a time there's a time limit,

1315
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Speaker 2: there's an expiration date on Stefan Diggs with any football team,

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Speaker 2: and you know he kind of reached it with the Bills,

1317
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Speaker 2: and I think he wanted to come back and make

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Speaker 2: a statement tonight. Well, they're gonna get in a chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully we'll see if they can close this

1320
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Speaker 1: game out, but they'll get another chance, obviously to play

1321
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Speaker 1: this team a little bit later on the season. You

1322
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Speaker 1: come back to the division that the Bills were in,

1323
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans probably could use him, just throwing that

1324
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Speaker 1: out there, But they.

1325
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Speaker 2: Got to win today.

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Speaker 1: They're on their street. Big win today, big win today

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Speaker 1: on the road against Baltimore. All Right, that does it

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Speaker 1: for us. Thank you, Ben for hanging out. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming in for the final three hours of my

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Speaker 1: six and a half seven hour run here. I've been

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Speaker 1: Nevlinston obviously one of the thing, Dave Logan, Rick Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Susie Wards, and Allen Jackson, just a Trahio, Nick Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: Jojo Turnbo which been all Bright, Zach Segers, Dave Temper,

1334
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Speaker 1: Brenda Egger, Mike Urby, Anthony.

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Speaker 2: Rodriguez, Grand Smith, and Mike Guys, Shannon Scott.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful job today. As always, thank you to the listeners

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Speaker 1: as well. We'll be back tomorrow three o'clock for Kai Sports.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night.