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Speaker 5: I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to do the Tony and Mo Football Show

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Speaker 4: with Tony it is. It felt different last week.

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Speaker 1: You think, for so.

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Speaker 5: Many years my Mondays during football season have been this,

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Speaker 1: What did you do last Monday?

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Speaker 5: A lot of nothing. I'll shout out to my dad.

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Speaker 5: We we went to uh, my parents' house and kind

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Speaker 5: what would I have talked about with that Packers game?

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Speaker 5: Had you know, had that the Tony and Mo Show

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Speaker 4: So I hope you got a kick out of that,

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Speaker 4: The day that I found out you were unemployed is

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Speaker 4: the day we found out the Bengals had.

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Speaker 1: Acquired Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4: Man, and I said often, Gee, if only there was

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Speaker 1: And so you and I have not had a chance

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Speaker 4: Flacco on Tuesday night, he gets to know his teammates.

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Speaker 4: On Wednesday, it's hurry up and learn the offense. They

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and boy was there man. It felt like Flacco

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: That was my whole take when they acquired Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4: I've got number one and I've got number five, and

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Speaker 5: But as semblance of the running game helped, well.

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Speaker 4: the perfect storm of stuff happening. But first and foremost,

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Speaker 4: But I'm a Joe Flacco fan for life now because

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Speaker 1: There was so much in that game.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the wide receivers from a few different perspectives.

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Speaker 4: Number One, T Higgins makes a play that sets up

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Speaker 5: I just one of the smartest, most unselfish decisions you

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Speaker 4: T Higgins makes a great play, has a terrific game,

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Speaker 1: And this is why I love t Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm signing up to catch patches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now it's a stretch to say that T Higgins on

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who aren't close to as

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Speaker 4: Higgins would have said I need out of his shadow,

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Speaker 5: What's that do for Tea? All of a sudden, now

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Speaker 4: You could look at his numbers and go the guy

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Speaker 5: And we talked about the leadership before there was a

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Speaker 1: Like Thursday night, twenty nine away from four o'clock.

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Speaker 4: There's lots of other stuff from that game that we've

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Speaker 4: to discuss them. We'll do that when we come back,

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Speaker 4: little bit later on when Peaks and Florence A good list, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This report is the Bengals are looking to install a

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Speaker 3: no fly zone when the Jets touchdown in Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: the Orange and Black ground a green and white or

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Speaker 3: will New York take off with the win thing I

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Speaker 3: do know turbulence is guaranteed. I don't doo will with turbulence.

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Speaker 3: I may need a parth bag. Coverage begins Sunday at

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Speaker 4: on the Bengals front as they set their sights on

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Speaker 4: Sunday's tilt against the New York Jets. One o'clock kickoff.

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Speaker 4: You'll hear the game live on ESPN fifteen thirty. Pre

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Speaker 4: game coverage begins at nine A. And there is a

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Speaker 4: Monday Night football doubleheader tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

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Speaker 4: You've got the Bucks and Lions in Detroit, and then

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Speaker 4: the Texans and Seahawks in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: How about the Sports Night in Seattle?

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Speaker 4: Monday Night Football and the Mariners in Game seven of

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Speaker 4: the National League Championship Series.

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Speaker 1: Obviously all tied up in three.

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Speaker 4: Toronto hosting Shane Bieber on the Hill for the Jays

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Speaker 4: George Kirby for the MS winner takes on the La

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Speaker 4: Dodgers in the World Series. College Football, UC twenty first

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Speaker 4: in both major polls. Ohio State retains the top spot

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Speaker 4: in both major polls. Indiana second in both major polls.

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Speaker 4: Louisville nineteenth in the AP Top twenty five and twenty

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Speaker 4: second in the coaches poll. FC Cincinnati's Evander named to

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Speaker 4: Team of the Match day for his performance that included

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Speaker 4: a goal and an assist in Saturday's three nothing regular

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Speaker 4: season concluding victory over Montreal. The Orange and Blue will

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Speaker 4: take on the Columbus Crew in the best of three

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Speaker 4: series that begins a week from tonight at the Stadium

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Speaker 4: on the West end of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: What about this weekend here? Hall of Fame Ceremony Friday night,

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Speaker 5: Oh for Mike Mickins. Mike Mickins in the town, Saturday

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Speaker 5: homecoming Parade. Yeah, Saturday, U see Bearcats, Sunday Bengals Sunday

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Speaker 5: Night Nate Bargatzi tickets. You can win if you come

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Speaker 5: here today and fill out the form. Ring of honor,

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Speaker 5: Ring of Honor. Yep, Monday, Hell is real, best of three?

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Speaker 1: It's fun?

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Speaker 5: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Good time?

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Speaker 5: Can I ask you what you you mentioned the Monday night? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: can I There's been a lot of chatdow that I've

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Speaker 5: seen in the last twenty four hours. People were big

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Speaker 5: mad about the NFL slate yesterday, and the.

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Speaker 1: Conversation is, well, you do, big man.

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Speaker 5: Big mad. They said, the slate's stunk. The games weren't

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Speaker 5: any good. So what do you make about the NFL?

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Speaker 1: You watch?

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Speaker 5: What do you make about the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Do something else? Don't watch you The games were really

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Speaker 1: good yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Actually, you're gonna have now they eventually want to have

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Speaker 5: an international team. Yes, you're gonna have a ton of

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Speaker 5: international games every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Is it messing with the product when you continue to

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Speaker 5: do like these double header Monday nights. Monday doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 5: You're as much can you get? Like, okay, so there's

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Speaker 5: an extra game Monday night. Then there's the early game,

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Speaker 5: so it takes away from maybe that the main part

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Speaker 5: of Sunday, which you think about with football. I don't

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Speaker 5: think the international games are ever any good.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: I watch those and I'm like, well, we're never good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, even as good as Stafford was yesterday. Watching

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Speaker 5: that was tough.

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Speaker 1: Jags. How many good London games have there been?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Legitimately they're either sloppy or they are non competitive.

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Speaker 1: So I have a bigger problem with those.

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Speaker 4: Ay they take a home game away from fans who

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Speaker 4: have built those stadiums, be the product is rarely good.

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Speaker 1: I like the Monday night football double header.

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Speaker 4: You can't always do that like they did it last week,

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Speaker 4: but the games were basically an hour apart away from

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Speaker 4: each other.

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Speaker 1: I like the double header sometimes.

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Speaker 4: The Sunday slate is surprisingly good. I thought yesterday was

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Speaker 4: pretty entertaining.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought, like on paper they were

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Speaker 5: games that I was like that, but I I talked

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Speaker 5: about that saturd Yeah, but the way they played out,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, yeah, this is this is good.

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Speaker 4: I've gotten used to Thursday night football, and I think

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Speaker 4: the Thursday night product, because teams have figured out how

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Speaker 4: to do it, has gotten better.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, International stills top.

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Speaker 4: Also more divisional matchups on Thursday. Like it's they've made

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Speaker 4: that as good as possible. That the London games are

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Speaker 4: never good. Yeah, they're not going to be good when

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Speaker 4: they go to Madrid. They're not going to be good

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Speaker 4: when they go to Amsterdam. They're not going to be

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Speaker 4: good when they go to poll End, Like I expect

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Speaker 4: an NFL game on every continent, right, they're not going

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Speaker 4: to be any good. Having two games on a Monday

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Speaker 4: doesn't bother me. I also don't subscribe anymore to Sunday

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Speaker 4: Ticket right where I feel like you're taking a game

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Speaker 4: away from me. Yeah, Like I just watched red Zone

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Speaker 4: now like yesterday it was Red Zone all day for

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Speaker 4: the most part.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When I was a Sunday Ticket subscriber, I felt like, well,

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Speaker 4: you're taking more games away from me and putting it

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Speaker 4: somewhere out and.

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Speaker 5: For I get for home fans too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Wait, so we're paying for the stadium. Yeah, and we're

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Speaker 5: losing on home.

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Speaker 4: My biggest issue with the international games is exactly it.

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Speaker 4: Seventy five percent of NFL construction this century has been

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Speaker 4: from public money. So we're gonna build a stadium. All

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Speaker 4: we ask is you play all your home games here,

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Speaker 4: and now we take them to London. Now I'm a

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Speaker 4: hypocrite because both times the Bengals have gone to London,

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Speaker 4: I've gone and had a great time. There is a

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Speaker 4: part of me, as somebody who also loves baseball, that

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Speaker 4: a game seven tonight is dwarfed by two NFL games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing baseball, I guess can do about that. But

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Speaker 4: there is a part of me that goes, you know what,

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Speaker 4: it's game seven of an ALCS and it's just it's

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Speaker 4: obscured by having two Monday night football games.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is. Yep, you mentioned this.

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Speaker 4: One thing that stood out on Monday was how successfully

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Speaker 4: they ran the ball Chase Brown nearly ten yards of carry.

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Speaker 1: Why were they so good running?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, And I think Dalton Reisner and Jalen

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Speaker 5: Rivers get credit too. Yeah, I mean that was a big,

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Speaker 5: big thing of well. Lucas Patrick's healthy, scratch, Dylan Fairchild

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Speaker 5: practiced all week. He's healthy. They're not starting, so I

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Speaker 5: think they made moves that feel urgent to me, which

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Speaker 5: I think is good and I know that we drive

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Speaker 5: it in time and time again. Flacco is comfortable going

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Speaker 5: under center. I think that does make a difference, and

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Speaker 5: Austin brought it up today as well. Flacco is also

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Speaker 5: willing to go under center and do it typical five

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Speaker 5: step drop, which is almost ancient in today's NFL, the

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Speaker 5: five and seven step drop. He's comfortable with that, and

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Speaker 5: I think it gives defenses a different look. That to

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Speaker 5: me is one of my bigger questions going forward with

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, because last time Browning had to come in

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Speaker 5: and we talked about the four that he won. The

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Speaker 5: common denominator was the running game and then Flaco the

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Speaker 5: other night. As good as it was with the receivers,

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Speaker 5: when you're handing it off to a guy that's getting

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Speaker 5: over ten yards of carry, that helps out you in

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Speaker 5: the passing game. And the common denominator has been going

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Speaker 5: under center. If you go back to twenty nineteen, there

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Speaker 5: are articles after articles written about Joe Burrow's dominance and

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Speaker 5: how he prefers shotgun. I think there was a handful

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Speaker 5: of snaps in his senior year that they had to

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Speaker 5: go under center, short yardage gun, goal line gun. He's

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Speaker 5: comfortable with that, and I think what's going to be

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Speaker 5: the biggest clash now going forward is when he is healthy.

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Speaker 5: Zach Taylor, whatever you think about him as a play caller,

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Speaker 5: I think his system is more designed to do under

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Speaker 5: center runs, play action, move the pocket a little bit.

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Speaker 5: When Joe gets healthy and Zach sits down and says, look,

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Speaker 5: we have found ways to run the ball, it requires

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Speaker 5: you to go under center. And if Joe says I

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Speaker 5: don't want to go under center, how does that conflict

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Speaker 5: get resolved?

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Speaker 4: I would like to think that if you present Joe

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Speaker 4: evidence of our system working when the quarterback does it

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Speaker 4: this way.

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Speaker 5: But they had to have done that in the pasture.

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Speaker 4: If you're Joe Burrow, you go, Okay, I'm never going

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Speaker 4: to play exclusively under center, no quarterback is. But maybe

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Speaker 4: there's an adjustment that I can make that helps the

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Speaker 4: team perform better. Yeah, on the ground, which is only

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Speaker 4: going to enhance my ability to make the offense work

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Speaker 4: when we're throwing like, because.

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Speaker 5: It's felt at times, I gets the opposite to me.

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Speaker 4: If if Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor truly have a

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Speaker 4: great working relationship, then it's not a big deal. It

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Speaker 4: could be a tough conversation. It could be a series

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Speaker 4: of conversations. But since Joe got here, what I've heard

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Speaker 4: is Joe and Zach have a great working relationship. Okay,

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Speaker 4: great working relationship means, hey, here's a thing, here's a problem.

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Speaker 4: We have to solve it, and the solution might lie

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Speaker 4: in you, Joe making adjustments.

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Speaker 5: Well, we've seen already there's been frustration from Joe with

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Speaker 5: how slow the plays come in at times. Sure, we

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Speaker 5: have seen at times Joe changing a lot of the

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Speaker 5: plays at the line of scrimmage. Right, I just I'm

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Speaker 5: so curious in the d dynamic of one of the

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Speaker 5: games best quarterbacks having to do something he doesn't want

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Speaker 5: to do. And is Joe's dynamic saying you can call it,

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Speaker 5: I'm checking out of it, or is Joe's dynamic Okay,

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Speaker 5: let's try this, because look, if you're a quarterback, you

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Speaker 5: are a creature of habits. Sure, I'm not comfortable turning

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Speaker 5: my back to the defense when I go under center. Okay,

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Speaker 5: are you willing to get comfortable or are you saying

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Speaker 5: that that's a non start for you? Because if it is,

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Speaker 5: then Zach has to redesign everything he's doing, and we've

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Speaker 5: seen the inability to do that. They don't run the

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Speaker 5: ball well out a shotgun unless Joe Flacco's pulling on

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Speaker 5: an RPO and carry it for eleven yards, which is

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Speaker 5: one of the craziest things I've still ever seen. But

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Speaker 5: I'm just I'm interested if let's say they replicate that

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Speaker 5: for a couple more games under center runs and it

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Speaker 5: opens up more in the passing game. Is Joe's nature

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Speaker 5: of I'm not doing that or is it okay, I'll

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Speaker 5: try it more.

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Speaker 4: I would like to think that Joe, if handed an

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Speaker 4: extensive amount of evidence that our offense works better when

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Speaker 4: we do it this way, goes okay, It's up to

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Speaker 4: me to adjust. I would like to think that he

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Speaker 4: would do that. I will give him the benefit of

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Speaker 4: the doubt to suggest he'll do that. What I would

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Speaker 4: lose my mind over is Zach Taylor just saying, uh huh,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna bring this to Joe and we're just

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Speaker 4: gonna do it his way in the face of something

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Speaker 4: else that works.

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Speaker 5: But I could almost see that happening at times too,

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Speaker 5: because that's your star. Yeah, I'm not I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: If I'm Zach my wagon's hitch to him.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, a coach and a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: if he's an offensive play caller, if they have this

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Speaker 4: great collaborative working relationship, they sit down and explore areas

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Speaker 4: where they can get better, or they find a way

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Speaker 4: to solve problems, and to do that requires input from

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Speaker 4: all sides. But open mindedness too. By the coach and

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Speaker 4: by the quarterback and by everybody else involved.

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Speaker 5: And you talk about the O line, that's what helps

685
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Speaker 5: you O line. If you can go under center and run,

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Speaker 5: that slows down the pass rushing a little bit. And

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Speaker 5: if you can go under center and actually drop back

688
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Speaker 5: in pass, now the D line has to make a decision.

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Speaker 5: Now they've got to be a little more hesitant at

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Speaker 5: times because you're changing up the looks constantly. You know.

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Speaker 5: It's what we've talked about the Lions and these elite

692
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Speaker 5: teams offensively, it's what they do. They move the pocket,

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Speaker 5: they give you a bunch of different looks. I mentioned

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Speaker 5: on the UC broadcast Saturday night. UC runs three plays

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Speaker 5: that look exactly the same over the course of a game,

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Speaker 5: and they all branch to different avenues. Right. A lot

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Speaker 5: of that starts because you're able to run all three

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Speaker 5: of those plays successfully. And for Joe that would start

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Speaker 5: with having to line up under center.

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Speaker 1: All right, So two things along these lines.

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Speaker 4: One, when you were on vacation last week, I talked about,

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Speaker 4: how would I like so much about Joe Flacco against

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Speaker 4: Green Bay was it wasn't clunky, They didn't have a

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Speaker 4: delay of game penalty. There was nothing pre snap that

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Speaker 4: made you feel like nobody's on the same page. They

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Speaker 4: got the play call in, they executed it, sometimes well,

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Speaker 4: sometimes not so well, but it wasn't clunky. Before Joe

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Speaker 4: got hurt, you and I were wondering, why is this disjointed?

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Speaker 4: Why are they having a hard time? So there's that,

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Speaker 4: Then there's Jamar Chase got targeted twenty three times. This

711
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Speaker 4: is the same wide receiver that with Joe Burrow playing quarterback,

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Speaker 4: we let the Cleveland Browns take out of the game.

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Speaker 4: So from those two perspectives, I think Joe Burrow, whenhealthy,

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Speaker 4: is the best quarterback in the NFL. That said, I

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Speaker 4: can't help, but wonder are there things he can learn

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Speaker 4: to do better watching Joe Flacco execute his job?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think you go back to the

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Speaker 5: old kiss method. Keep it simple, stupid, right, Like, I

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Speaker 5: think that's what they did with Joe Flacco. Here he comes,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna try to load the throw the whole playbook

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Speaker 5: in and used into the basics. Do you want Joe

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Speaker 5: Flacco at the line of scrimmage having to check through

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Speaker 5: ten different things? No, just call it and run it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: go do it? And I think there's something to that.

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Speaker 5: What's Joe doing at the line of scrimmage? Everything adjusting,

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Speaker 5: come into motion, bringing the receiver or bringing the running

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Speaker 5: back back into the backfield, bringing a tight end back

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Speaker 5: for extra protection. What's Flacco doing? Call to play and

729
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Speaker 5: go run it? And if I don't know what I'm doing,

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Speaker 5: then I will keep it simple and I'll just throw

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Speaker 5: it the number one and I'll give him a target.

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Speaker 5: Want double team, single covered? I don't care. And when

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Speaker 5: they change their look on defense, do I have an answer?

734
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Speaker 5: That's all you need? And again, eventually does that catch

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Speaker 5: up with you? That's what I think is gonna be interesting. Happen.

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Speaker 5: It happened one week. Jets they're ow and seven, but

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Speaker 5: they're not dumb. What's Aaron Glenn saying, We're not gonna

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Speaker 5: let Jamar Chase catch sixteen passes? So now that a

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Speaker 5: team adjust, what can you add? What wrinkles can you

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Speaker 5: throw in to find that success? It's great to do

741
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Speaker 5: it for one week. It's fun, it's impressive. Teams are

742
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Speaker 5: going to say, like they've done in the past, we

743
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Speaker 5: need to limit Jamar Chase. Can they still find ways

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Speaker 5: to get it to them fifteen times? In a game.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Jalen Rivers.

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Speaker 4: I want to spend some more time on him and

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Speaker 4: some of the lineup changes coming up after the top

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Speaker 1: You might be sitting next to our winner.

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Speaker 5: How about that? You know, potentially our winner is someone

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Speaker 5: we met over the break from Australia. Could be Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Bengals fans down Under?

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Speaker 1: How about that? Who day nation isn't just confined to

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Speaker 1: this nation?

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Speaker 5: Told us that they will get up at three am

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Speaker 5: to watch a normal Sunday game for the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Like a pay service.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So when it's one o'clock here, it's three o'clock in

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Speaker 4: the morning in Australia on Monday.

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Speaker 5: So he's getting up with a group of friends too.

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Speaker 1: Get up and watch the game.

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Speaker 5: Did like the pub stay open?

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Speaker 1: Do the pub stay open? No? So just watching it? Okay? Man?

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Speaker 5: You imagine you then.

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Speaker 4: Just stay up and plow through for the rest of

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Speaker 4: the day. You go back to sleep for a bit.

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Speaker 5: I'll say, like, do you come over and like Bengals gear?

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Speaker 5: Do you just work pajamas?

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is incredible you put back a couple

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Speaker 4: of cold ones at three am watch the Bengal one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very good.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Bengals fans down Under and.

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Speaker 1: You listen to this show in Australia. Unreal? Is that even?

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Speaker 1: Is that legal?

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Speaker 4: Do you do that through legal methods? The iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 4: works in Australia.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Wow, not just here in the States, not at all. Unbelievable, sir,

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Yes, very kind. This is unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Friends brought us a gift today.

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Speaker 1: Get fired more often.

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Speaker 5: I know that means I get folks.

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Speaker 1: Flying from Australia. People bring presents.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is great, unbelievable, really nice. All right, well

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Speaker 5: see it two weeks from now, best career move you

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Speaker 5: ever made.

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Speaker 4: Crazy Bengals win. We're gonna get to the Bearcats a

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Speaker 4: little bit later on. We'll talk about the arrest of

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Speaker 4: the AFC North as well, and we'll discuss some of

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Speaker 4: the defensive issues. But you talked about we were discussing

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Speaker 4: running the football on Thursday. Jalen Rivers played, Dylan Fairchild

836
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Speaker 4: did not. Dalton Reisner played as well. Those two guys

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Speaker 4: got one of the snaps at their respective guard positions.

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Speaker 4: First of all, with Jalen Rivers, I think they may

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Speaker 4: have something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the only blemish was a holding penalty, but I

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Speaker 5: don't even put that on him. The defender jumped the

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Speaker 5: snap count and the only thing he could do to

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Speaker 5: prevent Flacco from getting hit was tackle him, and that's

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Speaker 5: what you're taught to do, So I don't even put

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Speaker 5: that one on him. I think the best compliment you

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Speaker 5: can give offensive lineman is you don't notice him. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and you didn't notice much of Jalen Rivers, which is

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Speaker 5: a good thing. I thought mims on TJ. Watt held

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Speaker 5: up more than well fantastically. There was just a lot

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Speaker 5: of good that came from that, and late in the

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Speaker 5: game you started to see a little bit of penetration.

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Speaker 5: Cam Heyward started getting home a little bit. TJ. Wat

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Speaker 5: got there. But for the most part I got the

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Speaker 5: offensive line played good, and we've not talked about that

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Speaker 5: enough this year. Again, different factors play into that, running

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Speaker 5: the ball, getting the ball out quick, everything plays into

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Speaker 5: that to me. Because it's a one game sample size,

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Speaker 5: can they replicate it.

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Speaker 4: I thought the pass protection in the second half against

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Speaker 4: Green Bay was good. Too, so you know that to

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Speaker 4: me was something to build on. They took another step

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Speaker 4: against Pittsburgh. We'll see if it continues. I do like this,

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Speaker 4: you know, while you were on vacation last week, we

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Speaker 4: talked about Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson still played forty six

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Speaker 4: percent of the snaps. I think there were folks who

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Speaker 4: added like Logan Wilson was never going to play for

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Speaker 4: the Mangles again. He still had an active role in

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Speaker 4: the game, but they did effectively swap him out for

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Speaker 4: Barrett Carter. Dylan Fairchild didn't play the other night Dave

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Speaker 4: benched Cam Taylor Brow. It does feel like, in regards

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Speaker 4: to making personnel changes, the coaching staff this year is

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Speaker 4: being a little bit more proactive now. They were not

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Speaker 4: with Gino Stone, who we have to talk about, and

874
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Speaker 4: they were not with the roster this offseason to the

875
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: extent we would have liked. But like the Logan Wilson

876
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: thing last week, my take on it was like, I

877
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: don't know how much better the defense is gonna be

878
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: with Barrett Carter, but it would be just like the

879
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: Bengals to stay with the status quo. They didn't and said, Barrett,

880
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna be the guy at guard with Dylan Fairchild.

881
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: My guess is he still gets plenty of opportunities. He

882
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: was on the report last week, but it's not like

883
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: he's been awesome and Okay, he's gonna get other chances.

884
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: But it would have been easy for them to say, well,

885
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: Dylan was the starter. He has been the starter, and

886
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: so he's gonna start against Pittsburgh. That didn't happen, Cam

887
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: Taylor Britt. It is hard to be in a doghouse

888
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: more than Cam Taylor Britt has been. Where notally scratch

889
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: was he bench during a game against Denver? He was

890
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: a healthy scratch on Thursday. Does it feel to you

891
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 4: like there's a little bit more proactivity as it relates

892
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 4: to making personnel and lineup changes for the most part.

893
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 5: When I first saw the term that I immediately went

894
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 5: to as urgency, feels like they're not waiting around for it.

895
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 5: To your point, proactive, you know, I think there's an

896
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: understanding of how quickly this was slipping away, and so

897
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, let's just give Dylan another chance. No,

898
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: you get your chances, you get your opportunities. You either

899
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: make the most of them or you're out and that's it.

900
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 5: And again you can learn a lot about a player

901
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 5: how they respond to something like this. You know, does

902
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 5: Dylan Fairchild roll overs, he feel sorry for himself? Does

903
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 5: he tank or does he start to work his tail

904
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 5: off even harder? Does Kam Taylor brit work harder? Or

905
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: do you just say all right, I'll be I'll be

906
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 5: inactive whatever. I think that's gonna say a lot about them.

907
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: But two things. One get more youth in there. I'm

908
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: good with two to me. It at least shows that

909
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: they're trying to fix it. They're trying to find ways

910
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: instead of just banging your head against the wall and

911
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 5: running the same guys out out there and just trying

912
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: to make adjustments or hope things go better. You're at

913
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: least showing that, hey, I'm I'm willing to say we

914
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 5: might have been wrong on this one. Let's fix it

915
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 5: with urgency and see if that give us a better

916
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: chance to win.

917
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: I would like to see this theme continue because I

918
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: want to see any other living human being at safety

919
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 4: rather than Geno Stone.

920
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: I can't anymore. Man.

921
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: I had to play with Pat Fryermouth at the end

922
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 4: of the game that nearly cost him like I can't

923
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: with Gino anymore.

924
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell me I don't have to both.

925
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: On the third and eighteen, third and seventeen touchdown and

926
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 5: the second and twenty touchdown was cover two. Yeah, your

927
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 5: job in cover two is to cover a deep half

928
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 5: of the field. How can you cover the deep half

929
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: if you're on the numbers. I've never seen a safety

930
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: wider in cover two in my life.

931
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Ginostone is a sixty year pro.

932
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: I've never So it's like, is that the coaching because

933
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 5: it's not like it was the end of the game,

934
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: where like you're trying to force the ball into the

935
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: middle so that they run time right. I've never seen

936
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 5: a safety wider in the NFL. I mean think about

937
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: if think about if one safety is covering the deep

938
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 5: half and he's split in the difference between the half

939
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: of the field and the sidelines, and then the other

940
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: safety is over by the numbers. Just think of that

941
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 5: window for a quarterback and you got beat twice on

942
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: it and the same coverage over the course of a game.

943
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: There is no excuse for that. There's no play design

944
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: that pulls you out that way. That is it's malpractice.

945
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: Like I I've never seen anything like that before, and

946
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: to see it twice in a game was maddening.

947
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: From a guy who continues to make mister rook like that.

948
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, not a rookiees in his sixth,

949
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: sixth NFL season, we continue to watch what seemed to

950
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: me to be poor angles on tackles, misstackles, coverage mistakes.

951
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: I don't trust him, not around the ball enough. Like,

952
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I'll take anybody else.

953
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: Yep.

954
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: Dejohon Anthony and by the way, Jordan Battle had a

955
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: good game.

956
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: Yep.

957
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: Geno Stone is atrocious. Man.

958
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: It's it's crazy because it feels like some players are

959
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 5: turning the corner a little bit. Like Kirk karb Street

960
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: said on Thursday night that DJ Turner's playing as good

961
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: as anyone in the NFL at corner, So I think

962
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: he is.

963
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: I've done this topic.

964
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've done it with you, but

965
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: I know I did it with James last week. I'm

966
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: trying to identify like five to ten players I want

967
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 4: to move forward with DJ Turners.

968
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, we did that before vacation. Yeah, yeah, he would

969
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: be one that I'm circling now.

970
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

971
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: The play he made where he takes the ball away

972
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 4: from DK metcalf Is. That's one of the best plays

973
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 4: you'll see a TV make all year long.

974
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: There are some.

975
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 5: Players wasn't on your list.

976
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

977
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: Watch Genostone play Sunday, like literally anybody else?

978
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 5: Yep. Could justin Fields play well against Genostone?

979
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: Well?

980
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: Could Tyrod Taylor?

981
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes?

982
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: Is von Bell doing anything not on an NFL team?

983
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: Is he? I don't think so.

984
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: Anybody?

985
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: Yep. And that's the thing.

986
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: So that was bullish on that signing.

987
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 5: But that, to me is what's interesting. We watched a

988
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 5: whole baseball season where it felt like the Reds had

989
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 5: no problem trotting folks down and backup if they weren't performing,

990
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 5: unless it was about Matt McClain.

991
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

992
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 5: So, if you're the Bengals and Cam Taylor BRIT's a

993
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: healthy scratch and fair Child's a healthy scratch, and you're

994
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 5: not giving other guys opportunities and Stone keeps playing like that,

995
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: are you gonna keep running him back out there? Are

996
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: you gonna keep running Gino Stone out there? Are you

997
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: gonna say, well, if it wasn't good enough for Cam

998
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 5: Taylor Britt, then we're taking Gino Stone out. Can you

999
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: just play Logan Wilson at safety Tampa two, drop him

1000
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: in the middle.

1001
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: I'm no expert on safety play. I've been watching this

1002
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: sport for a long damn time.

1003
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Though he literally may be the worst safety I've ever hear.

1004
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 5: But again, if you're Cam Taylor Britt and you're sitting

1005
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: back taking your medicine, you're like, all right, I'm not

1006
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: been playing well, I get it. But then you watch

1007
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: the film and you're like, what are you doing with

1008
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: this guy?

1009
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1010
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 5: And if you keep putting him out there as a starter,

1011
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 5: what messages that's send in the locker room? Right, certain

1012
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 5: guys are held accountable, but the ollers aren't. There is

1013
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 5: no chance he should be the starter on Sunday against

1014
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 5: the Jets and take it. Look, and again it blows

1015
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: up in our face. If the Jets come in here

1016
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 5: and win, Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields would would not

1017
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: be the worst game to let a safety get more

1018
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: reps back there, and so let a young safety take

1019
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: more reps and get game action against a team that's

1020
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: not gonna throw it for six hundred yards.

1021
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: So we're gonna make this about the trade deadline when

1022
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: we come back from the break.

1023
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is okay. They won the game, awesome.

1024
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: The Flacco thing is great, Chase and Higgins terrific offensive line,

1025
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: very good running game re emerged.

1026
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 5: Sound like you're talking about the Bearcats.

1027
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 4: None of those things are a story. If Evan McPherson

1028
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: doesn't make the kick, if maybe T Higgins doesn't make

1029
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 4: that catch, if Joe Flacco doesn't you know, become a

1030
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 4: Bengals legend in the final two minutes in that game,

1031
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: the story is how the defense, yet again, couldn't get

1032
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 4: stops in a close game, yep, with the game hanging

1033
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: in the balance, and.

1034
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: Not even get stopped. Offer any resistance, right, any resistance?

1035
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: All right.

1036
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: We'll spend some time looking around the AFC North. Coming

1037
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 4: up at about fifteen minutes, we'll get to the Bearcats, the

1038
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: twenty first ranked Bearcats, coming up in the five o'clock hour.

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Speaker 3: the Jets touchdown in Cincinnati and the Orange and Black

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Speaker 3: ground the Green and White or will New York take

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Speaker 1: Everybody is having fun at Twin Peaks.

1064
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: What happens when you win.

1065
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: Everybody is having a blast. Everybody is getting along. This

1066
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Speaker 4: is why this is a great place for fellowship. Family, Yeah, football,

1067
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: the three. Everybody just gets along, enjoys each other's company.

1068
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Speaker 5: You ever watch semipro Jackie Moon. Everybody love everybody.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what happens here at a Twin Peaks, with

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00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: the exception of one gentleman who just basically announced his

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00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 4: departure to everybody. That's why you gotta come the Twin Peaks.

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Speaker 5: That and you can win Nate Bargatti tickets and you

1073
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: could hear us and see.

1074
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Speaker 1: Us that guy got his money's worth.

1075
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 5: He did you You could kind of use that as

1076
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 5: like when a coach gets tossed and they dig in

1077
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 5: a little bit to make sure they get their money's worth.

1078
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: Huh.

1079
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 5: I think that's what we just witnessed.

1080
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: It's called going out in a blaze of glory.

1081
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: That gentleman's catching the rest of this show in his car.

1082
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: Yep, if you're listening, thank you for the entertainment.

1083
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: The trade deadline is November fourth, oh nearly two weeks away.

1084
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: So they won Thursday, which means tap the brakes on,

1085
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 4: you know, trading Trey Hendrickson. I guess, first of all,

1086
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: get him healthy and get him on the field. Now

1087
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Speaker 4: the conversation shifts though to who can they acquire to

1088
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: make a run at the deadline. If if they can

1089
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: only get one player in one position group, what would

1090
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Speaker 4: you like to see them address?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy because since we talked last offseason,

1092
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 5: I've been on offensive line as a whole, and I

1093
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 5: give our guy, our guy Mike from LA before the

1094
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: season told us or told me Jalen Rivers could be

1095
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 5: a guy. Told me that might have been right, and

1096
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: he might have been right. Yeah, and so I'm almost

1097
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 5: at a point now. Mo by the time he got

1098
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 5: a prediction right, I'm almost at a point now. I'm

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Speaker 5: willing to at least see what Jalen Rivers can do

1100
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 5: for another week or so. If it's pressing right now,

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00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 5: the D line is still non existent. Yeah, like there

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00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: are they? What did Shamar Stewart do in the game on.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday, Lay twenty two snaps? Didn't do a.

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00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: Damn did not register a thing. And my thought is

1105
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: here's your shot. Yes, Thursday Night Football, Trey Hendrickson's out

1106
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: go show the world why we got you. I didn't

1107
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 5: notice him once. I didn't notice him once he took

1108
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 5: a terrible angle on a three man rush that allowed Rogers,

1109
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 5: one of the most elusive quarterbacks at his age, to

1110
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Speaker 5: escape the pocket and continue a play unto a touchdown.

1111
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: If you aren't going to show up when you're down

1112
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 5: your best player on defense, what are we doing?

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00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So, as much as I still want to improve offensive line,

1115
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 5: if I'm pressing on how this team can be any

1116
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: better right now, then it has to be defensive line.

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I did just talk about my disdain for watching Gino

1119
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: Stone and so if they acquired a safety, fine, But

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00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 4: I'm with you. They have been trying to make the

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00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: pass rush better for years. They drafted Miles Murphy, it

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00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 4: hasn't worked. They've tried to develop Joseph Osi into a

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00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: reliable pass rusher, hasn't really worked. Shamar Stewart may be terrific,

1124
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: not sure you can count on him. The reason they

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Speaker 4: brought back Trey Hendrickson is everything else they've tried has failed. Yep,

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Speaker 4: Like they clearly have no concrete desire to make him

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Speaker 4: a Bengal in twenty twenty six. I think they would

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00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: be happy to move on if some of the other

1129
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 4: solutions panned out. Nothing has panned out, so why not

1130
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: continue the website since Hejungle dot Com goes through some

1131
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: possible trade deadline acquisitions and they do it at every

1132
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 4: position group. But they referenced Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips,

1133
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: both of the Dolphins, Kevon Thibodeau the Giants, Jordan who's

1134
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: old but could still be had by the New Orleans

1135
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: Saints on the inside of the defensive line, Jeffrey Simmons,

1136
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: which signed me the hell up for that. Kalais Campbell

1137
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: is still.

1138
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 5: Out there, go get Dexter Lawrence.

1139
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: Where we're at it, thirty eight years old with the Cardinals,

1140
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: they they need, they need help upfront and especially like

1141
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: all right, Trey may be trending toward playing on Sunday.

1142
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 4: He is an older player. Now we've seen hip, we've

1143
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: seen back. If Trey has to miss more time, than

1144
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: what do you got?

1145
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 5: And it's the worry to when Trey comes back for

1146
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 5: the year. Are you playing through different types of injuries? Yeah?

1147
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: Sure you know. And what I do think if you

1148
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 5: if you combine this in the segment we just did,

1149
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 5: there is a slippery slow that if things trend in

1150
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 5: the right direction and you're back to competing, great. If

1151
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 5: things fall back apart, then you're looking at it and saying, well,

1152
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 5: they've already moved on from the third round pick this year.

1153
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 5: The linebacker play isn't what we hoped for. Shamar Stewart's

1154
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 5: not producing. McKinley Jackson and Jermaine Burton are healthy scratches

1155
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 5: each and every week. Cam Tyler BRIT's now a healthy scratch.

1156
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 5: Like if it goes back south and the urgency doesn't help, well,

1157
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 5: then you're talking about even more roster spots needing to

1158
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 5: be filled, right Like, that is a slippery slope to

1159
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 5: be on.

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Speaker 4: So four thirty, the AFC North tightened because of the

1161
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: Bengals went over the Pittsburgh Stealers. We'll talk about everybody

1162
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 4: else in the division when we come back. Twin Peaks

1163
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Speaker 4: in Florence, Tony and Moe Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 8: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah here today, it's amazing. No real Bengals news, which

1182
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Speaker 1: is good.

1183
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 5: No news is good news.

1184
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: No news is good news.

1185
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: A pair of Monday night football games tonight. You got

1186
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: the Bucks and Lions in Detroit. That is on Fox

1187
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: Sports thirteen sixty, followed up by the Texans and Seahawks

1188
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: in Seattle. Baseball Tonight, Americalyampionship Series Game seven in Toronto Mariners,

1189
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 4: Blue Jays. George Kirby for Seattle, Shane Bieber for the Jays.

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00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: You and I were watching on Friday night when sho

1191
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: hey O Tani authored the greatest single game performance ever.

1192
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 4: Three bombs, ten strikeouts in a series clincher.

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 5: Kind of selfish of them because he tried to outshine

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00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 5: what our friend of you, Henneo Suarez did for the

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Speaker 5: Mariners that night.

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Speaker 4: Two homers a Grand Slam, Yeah, in.

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Speaker 1: A game that at the time gave them a three

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Speaker 1: two league hit.

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Speaker 5: A baseball night, though, Like you and I were talking,

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00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: cal Raley comes up in the eighth down one, Yeah,

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00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 5: HiT's a bomb, Yeah, Suarez. Unbelievable stuff. So much fun.

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Speaker 4: College football you see up the twenty first in both

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Speaker 4: major polls. The Bearcats will host a Baylor at four

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Speaker 4: o'clock on Saturday. By the way, the kickoff time for

1206
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: the Utah game is not going to come out until Sunday.

1207
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: The Utah game is on November the first. Ohio state

1208
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Speaker 4: still first in both poles, Indiana second in both poles.

1209
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: Louisville nineteenth and the ap pole twenty second in the

1210
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Speaker 4: coaches poll. Evander, for the eleven time this season, named

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Speaker 4: to the MLS Team of the Match day for his

1212
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 4: performance in FC Cincinnati's regular season concluding three nothing victory

1213
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Speaker 4: over Montreal. The Orange and Blue away to Columbus Crew

1214
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 4: best of three series starting at the Soccer Venue on

1215
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: the West End a week from tonight.

1216
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 5: Hell is real.

1217
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. Now. FC Cincinnati and Columbus.

1218
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 5: The Crew knocked him out last year.

1219
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, beat him in the Eastern Conference Final two years ago.

1220
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 4: It's a legitimate rivalry. And I also like the fact

1221
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: that game one is not opposite football.

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Speaker 5: Yeah smart, Yeah smart.

1223
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Speaker 4: Now Game two is gonna be in Columbus on Sunday night,

1224
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: like a six thirty game. The Bengals play at one o'clock,

1225
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Speaker 4: and then Game three would be on the eighth, which

1226
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: is a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that should be That should be a lot

1228
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: of fun.

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Speaker 5: Get it done.

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Speaker 4: What did the game on Thursday tell us about the

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers? By the way, if you're just joining his

1232
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Speaker 4: Tony's back, what did the game on Thursday tell us

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Speaker 4: about the Pittsburgh Steelers?

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Speaker 5: That they're okay? I thought I learned the most is

1235
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Speaker 5: that they are a team that has to operate with

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Speaker 5: the lead or within one possession. I mean, I've never

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Speaker 5: seen a game where more graphics were thrown out about

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Speaker 5: weight of offensive linemen in my life. I mean just

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Speaker 5: every time that they ran the ball, and you see

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Speaker 5: why with their tight end, I mean, I've never seen it.

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01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 5: They don't even put his exact weight for Washington, they

1242
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 5: just kept saying three hundred plus.

1243
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they his exact weight, so they officially list him

1244
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 4: as two ninety four.

1245
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Speaker 5: But like you see, when they use him in motion,

1246
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: they're very successful. They want to run the ball, they

1247
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 5: want to hit the tight ends. They'll take shots with metcalf.

1248
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Speaker 5: I just don't think they're able to operate if they're

1249
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 5: down a couple scores and have to get quick scores

1250
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Speaker 5: unless they're playing against Geno Stone that they're able to

1251
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 5: do that. Also, defense looks average. Yeah, they spent a

1252
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 5: lot of money on that side of the ball. Yeah,

1253
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 5: didn't really notice much from up front.

1254
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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't understand why they just insisted on playing man.

1255
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: I also didn't think that defense looks exceptionally quick.

1256
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, now they have dudes who.

1257
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: Can get after the quarterback. What Hayward her big high Smith.

1258
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 4: When they blitzem can get after the quarterback. I have

1259
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 4: felt all year long like the Steelers are a team

1260
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 4: that week to week is tough to play.

1261
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Speaker 1: And look, they nearly won that game.

1262
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Speaker 4: I do not take them seriously as AFC title contenders,

1263
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 4: and that game on Thursday, for me, was a chance

1264
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Speaker 4: for them to start at least to change my mind.

1265
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Speaker 5: Well, what was the talk. The talk was they essentially

1266
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 5: could wrap up things. Yeah, sure if they win that game.

1267
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Speaker 5: And now we're talking about life here. I would imagine

1268
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 5: they're talking about life in Baltimore. Yeah, and with opportunities

1269
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 5: that'll present themselves. So Pittsburgh did themselves no favors, They've

1270
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 5: opened up the window for this conversation to happen.

1271
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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh is plus one twenty to win the division, Baltimore

1272
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: plus one forty.

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Speaker 5: Five crazy at one in five crazy.

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Speaker 4: So their game against Chicago this week feels like the

1275
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 4: elimination game. Yeah, if you're one and six, they get

1276
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: the AFC North from hard time, convincing me they make

1277
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 4: the postseason two and five, it's.

1278
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's just obviously they've been decimated by injuries

1279
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 5: as well. But even when they were healthy. The defense

1280
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 5: was still awful. Yeah, they're giving up a ton of points.

1281
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 5: It just it felt it didn't feel like the same

1282
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: aura around the Ravens. Yeah, and kind of the Pittsburgh

1283
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 5: Steelers too. Yeah, it wasn't as physical as it normally felt.

1284
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 5: The crowd itself. Credit to the crowd here because you

1285
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 5: didn't see much yellow, no sprinkling through all the white

1286
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 5: man it was. There's still a lot to be desired

1287
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 5: with those two teams.

1288
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Speaker 4: Bengals are plus four fifty, the Browns are plus twenty

1289
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 4: five hundred.

1290
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: But could I tell you what, I'm grateful.

1291
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 5: For having to play them right now.

1292
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: Not having to play against them with Quinn h Quinchawn,

1293
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 4: judkins Man.

1294
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Speaker 5: We've talked about this before. We've talked about this before.

1295
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 5: Though their rookie class they're building that that rookie class

1296
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 5: has one to build around. Mason Graham has been really good.

1297
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 5: Quinchewn was awesome. They are. I don't think they're as

1298
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 5: far off as people assume that they're going to be.

1299
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 5: I mean, they're out of it this year, but I

1300
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 5: don't think there as far off in the future as

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 5: maybe people think.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know what their quarterback situation is gonna

1303
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Speaker 4: look like next year.

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Speaker 5: But I need like a Flacco type player m Ifunily,

1305
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: they didn't give away a Flaco type player for nothing.

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Speaker 5: Can I say one thing about the AFC?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to go there, next go ahead.

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Speaker 5: It feels like we're right back to the conversation about

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Speaker 5: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say, you're right, but you're right.

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Speaker 5: It's like they get Rice back and all of a sudden,

1312
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Speaker 5: like their offense makes a ton of sense. Rice, Hollywood, Brown,

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Speaker 5: Juju Smith, Schuster's catching passes now all over the field,

1314
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Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey, the checko's running the ball well.

1315
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Speaker 5: Mahomes Is I think one of the leaders now in

1316
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 5: MVP voting. I think he's currently their defense pitch to

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Speaker 5: shut out. Their defense is playing better. It's so crazy

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01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 5: how every year more and more people are starting to like, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, you and I had the conversation they might

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Speaker 5: finish under five hundred. Yeah, And now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: to me, I trust them more than anyone else in

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Speaker 5: the AFC.

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Speaker 1: I do too.

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Speaker 5: I think New England's better Buffalo had a bad loss.

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Speaker 5: They did not look dominant.

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Speaker 1: I think New England's really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think the Chiefs what they did against Detroit was impressive.

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Speaker 4: What they did against Baltimore, even though Baltimore hasn't played

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01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: like everybody expected impressive. They do have to side step.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens with Jalen Daniels. But their next

1331
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 4: four are wash at Buffalo, at Denver with a remarkable

1332
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Speaker 4: comeback yesterday, then home for the Colts, who I think

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Speaker 4: we both believe are for real, and then they gotta

1334
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Speaker 4: go to Dallas on Thanksgiving and what's going to be

1335
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Speaker 4: the highest rated Thanksgiving game of all time. And that

1336
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 4: Cowboys offense is terrific, so they're going to be tested.

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Speaker 1: But I think after those after they beat.

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Speaker 4: The Giants week three, they were one and two and

1339
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: we said, like, better bury him now, and then Baltimore

1340
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 4: didn't and that kind of gave him life. And I

1341
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Speaker 4: know they they lost to Jacksonville in there.

1342
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Speaker 5: But Detroit didn't.

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01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: It it it does.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I was as impressive as a win

1345
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 5: that I've seen in the NFL, and sometime the Detroit game,

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Speaker 5: the one yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no brock Bowers, but yeah, there is a it

1348
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Speaker 4: looked the division's good. Denver's five and two for what

1349
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 4: it's worth. The Savannah Bananas, I'm sorry. The LA Chargers.

1350
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Speaker 4: I'm not really sure what to make of them, but

1351
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 4: they're is a like the AFC North feels like the

1352
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Speaker 4: weaker of the two conferences, and I'm not bailing on

1353
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 4: Buffalo yet. I'm not still sure what to make of Denver.

1354
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 4: I believe in the Colts offensively. I think the jag

1355
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Speaker 4: showed yesterday. If you were getting excited about them the defense,

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Speaker 4: that might have been fools.

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Speaker 1: Gold.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which conference do you has more Super Bowl legitimate contenders?

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Speaker 1: So I'll do this off the top of my head.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know who's a legitimate contender outside of

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01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 5: Kansas City and Buffalo in the AFC, Like, do you

1362
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Speaker 5: think Indy can win a Super Bowl right now?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 5: Denver? No, I don't either. I think I don't. I

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Speaker 5: don't know two. I think it's two. But if I

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Speaker 5: look in the NFC right now, I would think I

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Speaker 5: think Tampa can compete. I think I think Green Bay

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01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 5: can compete. I think Philly can still compete. Do I

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01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 5: think Detroit can compete La? I think the Rams can compete?

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Speaker 5: There are I mean that's five right there. That I

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Speaker 5: think have a stake that say, hey, we can win

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Speaker 5: a title.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco a ton of injuries.

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Speaker 5: I think the injuries eventually catch up to him. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I saw a Lobsky today said that Seattle's got a

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Speaker 5: championship capable team. I don't think I'm there yet.

1377
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Speaker 1: I'm not there. No, But.

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Speaker 5: And that's not I mean, we're not even talking about Washington,

1379
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Speaker 5: who is now three and four.

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Speaker 4: Chicago's won four s three games. The Cowboys can score. Yeah,

1381
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Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna stop anybody but dangerous team Atlanta.

1382
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 5: I thought missed an opportunity last night because I was

1383
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 5: kind of waiting to see, like, is Atlanta getting there?

1384
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 5: And then they take a big step back. But I

1385
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 5: think by far, if you're talking about who can win

1386
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 5: a title, there are more teams in the NFC pool

1387
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 5: than the AFC pool.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you a question that the great Dan

1389
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Speaker 4: Horde asked you two UC games ago, about Joe Flacco

1390
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Speaker 4: coming up at five oh five, it's quarter to five.

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Speaker 1: We're at Twin Peaks in Florence.

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Speaker 4: It's the Tony and Mo Football Show till six on

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 8: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty from.

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Speaker 7: five one three, five eight four pink to schedule your

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Speaker 7: annual Mammo Graham with the UC Help's expert team. That's

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Speaker 7: five one three, five eight four pink. On eastbound two

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Speaker 7: seventy five past Montgomery Road, the left lane blocked off

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Speaker 7: from an accident right now. Traffic backed up from Mostellar Road.

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Speaker 7: Delays up to twenty minutes over On the westbound side

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Speaker 7: of two seventy five accident past the Loveland Madeira Road.

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Speaker 7: That's off on the left shoulder. I'm at ezelic with traffic.

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Speaker 4: From five o'clock the Tonian MoU Football Show on ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, we are broadcasting from Twin Peaks in Florence

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01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 4: until six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Well we're done.

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 4: You'll hear the Mark Stoopes radio show Almost be Texas,

1410
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 4: Almost Stoopsy.

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01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: Here's some good Mark stoops stories. Over the weekend.

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01:08:55,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 5: We did. We did a good weekend. We had, really did.

1413
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: I can't speak highly enough for Oklahoma City.

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01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 4: How much credit does Zach Taylor get for what Joe

1415
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 4: Flacco has done in a start and a half.

1416
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 5: I think a fair amount. I mean I I think

1417
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 5: there's something to simplifying things, you know. I think Flacco

1418
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 5: and has comment you know, on on set after the

1419
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 5: game of you know, there are times I couldn't even

1420
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 5: understand what was being called, or it came in a

1421
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 5: little late and I just went with something. I think

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01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 5: there's a lot to Joe Flacco. That's like, man, I've

1423
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 5: been around so long, I know what I'm gonna do. Sure,

1424
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 5: but you also give credit to Zach because they found

1425
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 5: ways to get the running game going, and that's been

1426
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 5: one of I think that the key problems in this league.

1427
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 5: It's not a one week league. It changes so much.

1428
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 5: You got to see a little bit more consistency. But

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01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 5: if they can find ways to run the ball again

1430
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 5: against the Jets, then I start to think, you you

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: build a little bit of that confidence and optimism in

1432
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 5: what Zach's able to do. Yeah, I mean I'm not

1433
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 5: jumping across the table yet.

1434
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm.

1435
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: Gonna wait and I wanna wait and see. But for

1436
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 5: a for a game where they were backed up against

1437
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 5: the wall and essentially calling him must win. They found

1438
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 5: a way to do it.

1439
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: Sure, they threw the ball to Jamar Chase and he

1440
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 4: caught sixteen passes and luck man, every Bengals.

1441
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 5: If I was a play caller as well, should be

1442
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 5: the game plan every week.

1443
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't care who the quarterback.

1444
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 5: That's what I think is crazy about it. This isn't complicated.

1445
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 4: I guess what I want to know is okay, And look,

1446
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 4: every team goes, okay, well, you know.

1447
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: That dude's a problem.

1448
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 4: How do we figure out a way to keep that

1449
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 4: guy from just you know, crushing our defense? But if

1450
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 4: there is a game, I don't know if it's the

1451
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 4: Jets are capable, but if there is a game where

1452
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, the passing game is stuck in the mud,

1453
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 4: let's just make it look like the Cleveland game where

1454
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: sticky corners, whatever you want to say, bad matchup. They

1455
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: couldn't throw it right, that was with Joe Burrow, but

1456
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 4: also after that first drive they couldn't run it either.

1457
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 4: So what I want to know is on a day

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 4: that looks like that, where your forty plus year old

1459
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 4: quarterback just doesn't have it that day, can you win

1460
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: a game running the ball? They supplemented what they were

1461
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 4: doing with a very good run game, but they had

1462
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco drop back forty five times. They won it

1463
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 4: because they threw it. They want it because they threw

1464
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 4: it exceptionally well, and because Chase and Higgins or otherworldly

1465
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: and Flacco's a quick study and knows how to get

1466
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 4: the ball to those guys and has a good arm.

1467
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 4: But to me, the running game has turned the corner

1468
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 4: when they can lean on it bad weather, or when

1469
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 4: they could lean on it to put away a game

1470
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, that sort of thing where you

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Speaker 4: know they're going to run the football, yep. So that

1472
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Speaker 4: to me was a great step in the right direction.

1473
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 4: Chase Brown was terrific, the offensive line had a very night.

1474
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 4: But what I want to know is what happens when

1475
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 4: they have to lean on it, because the last time

1476
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: they needed to it didn't work.

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Speaker 5: I guess for me, it's the biggest question of what's next.

1478
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 5: Because the Jets are zero and seven. You don't think

1479
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner's excited for this opportunity. Sure, you don't think

1480
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: he's pumped up for a chance to go against Jamar

1481
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 5: Chase and see where he levels up. And if you're

1482
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 5: the Jets, I'll still contest it.

1483
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: MO.

1484
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 5: If you're the Jets, how do you not come into

1485
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 5: the game and say, okay, show us you can run

1486
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 5: it again, right, show us that that wasn't a fluke,

1487
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 5: Show us you can run it against us, and then

1488
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 5: we'll see where we're at. Because I genuinely I don't

1489
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 5: know if Pittsburgh is maybe just not as good upfront.

1490
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if they were surprised, but I would be.

1491
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 5: I would be shocked if Detroit comes into this game

1492
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 5: and one doesn't play more zone, doesn't send more attendant

1493
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 5: to Jamar Chase and doesn't say, look, if you're gonna

1494
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 5: beat us, hand the ball off thirty times into it,

1495
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 5: We're not gonna let you beat us by throwing twenty

1496
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 5: three passes to Jamar Chase.

1497
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Speaker 4: So that was the frustrating thing. Again, they won the game, right,

1498
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 4: that was the frustrating thing about.

1499
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 5: But have you Yeah, can you figure anything out from that?

1500
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 5: Does unlocking more under center stuff change that for Zach

1501
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 5: Taylor or do you get to the point where it

1502
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 5: just feels like they're just spinning their tires and there's

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 5: no answer.

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01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 4: Now, I do have a piece of good news for you,

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: So I was listening today from noon to three. You're

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Speaker 4: first showback. It was awesome to hear you, but you

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Speaker 4: guys couldn't do talkbacks. Yeah, there's apparently a talkback out.

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 4: And what I had heard was, hey, look, the message

1509
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 4: is clear. You could have tony yeah, or you could

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 4: have talkbacks. And I guess we said tony. Well, apparently

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01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 4: the talkback issue has been resolved.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, just got.

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Speaker 4: My email from digital support. So tomorrow what a day

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Speaker 4: on since he three sixty Yeah, talkbacks talkbacks are back

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Speaker 4: will make their return as well, and then it will

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Speaker 4: truly feel like everything is back to normal.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I can't wait, because if I if.

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Speaker 4: I have to go another day without hearing from Kerment

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Speaker 4: the Frog and Yeah, Ronald Reagan, God and God.

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Speaker 5: It was crazy because you didn't leave a talk back today.

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 5: But God called, I said, where have you been the

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 5: last ten days? And I haven't answered anything from me?

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Speaker 1: Well today he did, he did.

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Speaker 4: But to listen to the show today and here you

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 4: was great, but my excitement was compromised a little bit.

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Speaker 5: By yeah talkback couldn't couldn't get the talkbacks. Yeah, So

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Speaker 5: tomorrow I'm glad they're back. I can pencil that We're.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco leads the Bengals to a win.

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Speaker 4: More on that, Brendan Soresby and Scott Saderfield leave the

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Speaker 4: Bearcats to a win. On Saturday, we'll talk some UC

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Speaker 4: football in the five o'clock hour as well. Right now,

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Speaker 1: The Power Hour of the Tony and Mo Football Show.

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Speaker 4: On ESPN fifteen thirty, we are broadcasting from Twin Peaks

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Speaker 4: in Florence, Muger with Tony Pike. Yes, what you are

1554
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: listening to is live Mayor Tony is back here after

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Speaker 4: a nearly two week vacation. Yep, it's awesome to have

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Speaker 4: you here at Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks. By the way,

1557
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Speaker 4: if you're thinking, man, tonight, I want to watch both

1558
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 4: Monday night football games and Game seven of the National

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 4: of the American League Championship Series. And uh, I want

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Speaker 4: to be out and about doing it watching here.

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Speaker 4: The staff here at Twin Peaks is second to none.

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Speaker 4: We're back here next week. By the way, we are

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 4: giving away a pair of Nate Barkers tickets.

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 5: And when do we do that drawing.

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: We'll do that drawing at if you remind me at

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: like five, must be here to win.

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Speaker 5: Yep. If not, they go to you and I.

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: Pair of tickets. Yeah, we're already going.

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, take along, man.

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 1: I've been the third wheel before that life.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a role that I play. Well, we'll draw

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01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 4: them at at five forty five. You must be here

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Speaker 4: to win. Bengals win, Bearcats win. We haven't touched on

1577
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 4: UC yet, but we will. You you were a little

1578
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 4: busy the day we found out the Bengals acquired Joe Flacco. Yes,

1579
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 4: but when you processed that Joe Flacco was the guy.

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 4: And I'm asking you this because this is the first

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01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 4: time you've had a chance to talk about this. When

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 4: you saw that Joe Flacco was the solution to quarterback,

1583
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 4: or the their attempt at a solution at quarterback, what

1584
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 4: were your thoughts.

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 5: I wish that had done it earlier, for reasons we outlined.

1586
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 5: My initial concern was him behind the offensive line I

1587
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 5: had seen throughout the point of the season up to

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01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 5: that point. How is he going to hold up right?

1589
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 5: Not as mobile? But the upside I thought far outweighed

1590
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 5: the downside of it because of just the understanding he

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01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 5: has of NFL offense, and it says the understanding he

1592
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 5: has of NFL defenses, he's been at the mountaintop and

1593
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 5: won a super Bowl in the National Football League, and

1594
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 5: if anyone values those guys around him, the skill players

1595
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 5: which we've been bagging, get the ball to the skill players.

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01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: I viewed him as someone that will feed the ball

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 5: to the skill players. And it took a half. I mean,

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01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 5: the first half at Green Bay was clunky and rightfully so,

1599
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 5: but you started to see glimpses in the second half

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Speaker 5: and he's given to, like you gomost see his confidence

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01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 5: because he's all right, let me give him a chance

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01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 5: on this. Let me give him a chance on this.

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01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 5: And when you as a quarterback give a guy that

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01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 5: chance and then they come through. All right, I'm gonnave

1605
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 5: him another one. Let me see what else he can do.

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01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 5: And you're, like you mentioned earlier, it's almost like a

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01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 5: pre preseason game because you're almost seeing everything you can

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01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: do and how your guys around you respond, and everything

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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 5: that he gave him, he's like, okay. Like, So that's

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Speaker 5: I think where the greatness of him for this system

1611
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 5: comes in. Never something he's not seen on an NFL field,

1612
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 5: He's seen most defenses that are playing right now because

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 5: he's been around for so long, He's familiar and he

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 5: values and understands like at this point in his career,

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01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 5: he's not gonna be scrambling a bunch, He's not gonna

1616
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 5: be running a bunch. He doesn't want to take a

1617
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 5: bunch of hits. How do you leave it all that?

1618
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 5: Get it out and get it to the playmakers? And

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 5: I think he was best equipped to do that.

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Speaker 1: Did you? Were you okay with him starting that game?

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01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: Because there were a lot of folks who thought that's

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: not fair to him, it's not gonna work. Maybe play

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01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: him against Pittsburgh, but let Jake be the guy against

1624
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 4: green Bay. My take on it was, no, get him

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: out there and get him on the field in a

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Speaker 4: game atmosphere, working with his guys, and you know, you

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01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: might know in the back of your head you're not

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01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 4: winning that Green Bay game, but let's work on some

1629
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 4: stuff we could use against Pittsburgh, which is gonna feel

1630
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 4: like a must win. What was your take kind of

1631
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 4: before everything unfolded with regard to what they chose to do.

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Speaker 1: Start him right.

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 5: Away, And I think if Browning had played any better,

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 5: you could have a conversation. It was so bad with Browning,

1635
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 5: and you kind of knew just watching him on the field.

1636
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 5: He was just shell shocked the rate in which he

1637
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: was turning the ball over. If you would have signed

1638
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 5: Flacco and still ran Browning out, I feel like you

1639
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 5: really lose the locker room as opposed to the other side,

1640
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 5: where you just see some good things happen and then

1641
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 5: you build momentum into Pittsburgh, because if not, you'd just

1642
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 5: wasted the green Bay game, and then the Pittsburgh game

1643
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 5: would have been his first game atmosphere and he would

1644
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 5: have been doing all this stuff we talked about in

1645
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 5: the second half, given guys opportunities, seeing what he can

1646
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 5: get away with. He used the green Bay game to

1647
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 5: do that, and then he was able to settle in

1648
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 5: and find the success against Pittsburgh as soon as you

1649
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 5: brought him, and he had to be the guy.

1650
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 4: You were doing a bearcat game with Dan Horde this

1651
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 4: Saturday before he made before Joe Flacco made his Bengals

1652
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 4: debut against the Packers, and Dan asked you during a

1653
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 4: break in the action, how difficult is what Joe Flacco's

1654
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 4: being asked to do?

1655
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 1: How difficult. Is that same question almost impossible from to go.

1656
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 4: From Tuesday he's in a car learning the offense over

1657
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 4: the phone. Yeah, on the practice field to act. Jamar

1658
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 4: Chase had to go and leave late that week because

1659
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 4: he was sick. To go from finding out about the

1660
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 4: trade on Tuesday to playing on the road against a

1661
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 4: good team on Sunday to then having to come back

1662
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: and play again on Thursday against a team with a

1663
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: veteran defense.

1664
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, describe for.

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 4: Me from the position that you've been in, which is

1666
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 4: somebody who's played it played the position, how difficult that was,

1667
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 4: even for somebody of his experience.

1668
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 5: It's almost impossible. And throwing in the fact that Jamar

1669
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 5: Chase was sick makes it even harder. But it's just

1670
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 5: it's not even about the physical play. It's the mental.

1671
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 5: It's because in your mind you're trying to rationalize you've

1672
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 5: ran a similar place, but you've been conditioned that they're

1673
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 5: called something different. So it's one you're getting what the

1674
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 5: play is and in your mind you're thinking, Okay, this

1675
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 5: looks like play, but then it's a new verbage. That's

1676
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 5: hard because you're you're constantly trying to mesh and marry

1677
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 5: the two. That's the harder part. The mental side is

1678
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 5: the harder part. And I contest that what he did

1679
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 5: Thursday was harder than what he did against green Bay

1680
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 5: because he came in on Tuesday. That's the start of

1681
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 5: a normal work week. Anyway, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, travel play Sunday.

1682
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 5: Then he played Mine's got to be racing, and then

1683
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 5: it's turnaround, get back to Cincinnati Thursday night game. It's

1684
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 5: a whole new playbook, it's a whole new game plan. Yeah,

1685
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 5: Like you just feel like you're getting the grasp and

1686
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: they say, well, we ran that against green Bay, but

1687
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 5: we're running this stuff against the the Steel Like we

1688
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 5: talked all camp, like what's happening in training camp. You

1689
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 5: put the whole playbook in and then you go back

1690
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 5: during the year and you just pick parts of that

1691
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 5: playbook out for each week. So he learned a playbook

1692
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 5: for green Bay without any prior knowledge, and then he

1693
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 5: dumped most of that and learned what the game plan

1694
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 5: was against Pittsburgh on a short week.

1695
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 4: When you have played that long, is there really a

1696
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 4: new play or a new offense, because it's not this

1697
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 4: He's played for the Ravens with different offensive coordinators, the Jets,

1698
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 4: the Broncos, the Browns, and the Colts, so he's played

1699
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 4: for multiple organizations.

1700
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: I know, the verbage changes from.

1701
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 5: It's just the verbage, like there's only so many route

1702
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 5: combinations you can run. It's the verbage, and it's what

1703
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 5: you're meshing it with. You know, Okay, well we'll running

1704
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 5: a smash concept, which is a hitch and a go

1705
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 5: route on the right side, and then we're just gonna

1706
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 5: run double slants on the left and that's called this

1707
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 5: as opposed to now, okay, well now it's slants on

1708
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 5: the left, but they're running double outs or they're running

1709
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 5: a flood concept on the right. So that's what's different.

1710
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 5: The routes you are the same routes you've always been running,

1711
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 5: you know. It's it's can you get the most out

1712
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 5: of those routes, which again the mental side that that's

1713
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 5: what's so like for me, like a rookie in the NFL,

1714
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 5: it's tough because now you're throwing everything away. You've never

1715
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: seen this stuff before, and you're adding it. He's seen everything,

1716
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 5: he's done everything, He's thrown every route possible. There's not

1717
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 5: new throws that he's making, it's how do I get

1718
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 5: to them? And quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if

1719
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 5: there were points in the game where he broke the

1720
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 5: huddle and just said, hey, Jamar running out right? Yeah,

1721
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 5: of course, like I would think with him, like I

1722
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 5: might not be sure this, Just run a stick like,

1723
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 5: do something like that to make sure he knew he

1724
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 5: was covered. Yeah, And when you pump into a guy

1725
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: twenty three times, that's probably why. Yeah. And it also

1726
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you can I don't think you can

1727
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 5: overexaggerate that He's just played against the Steelers a bunch sure, right, Like, yeah,

1728
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 5: not his first time facing that defense, not his first

1729
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 5: time the AFC North rivalry type battles. He's been in

1730
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 5: AFC North games with the Browns, He's been in AFC

1731
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 5: North games with the Ravens, So I think there's a

1732
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 5: level of comfort there as well. But it's no, it's

1733
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 5: not the physical side. It's men tell you what he's

1734
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 5: got to do.

1735
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 4: When you're running Joe Burrow's offense and Joe Burrow is

1736
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 4: on the sideline, what are those conversations like between possessions?

1737
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 4: What is do you if you're Joe Flacco, do you

1738
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 4: tell Joe Burrow, Hey, here's what I want you to watch.

1739
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: It's yeah, hey watch this for me.

1740
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 5: Hey keep an eye on this, or you know it's

1741
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 5: it's it's almost weird as a backup because I'm very

1742
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 5: very comfortable in that role that you're there to offer

1743
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 5: help if they need it, right, like the last thing

1744
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 5: a quarterback needs. Like let's say you run off the

1745
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 5: field and I'm like, hey, on that second down, they

1746
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 5: ran too this and you should have Like no one

1747
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 5: wants to hear that.

1748
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 1: From the backup.

1749
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 5: From the backup.

1750
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: But if it's Joe Burrow, right, But if.

1751
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 5: If if Joe comes, if Flacco comes off the field

1752
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 5: and says, man, that combination they rolled to a cover three, Look,

1753
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 5: what are you looking for there? Then obviously Joe's valuable

1754
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 5: in that. Or you know, route different like maybe Jamar

1755
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 5: runs his route at an eight yard route to ten

1756
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 5: where he starts his breaking and gets to ten and

1757
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 5: t gets it to ten and cut straight across it.

1758
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 5: Like just little intricacies there where Joe can help him out.

1759
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 5: But I would I would view it more as Joe

1760
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 5: Flacco saying to Joe Burrow, Hey, you know, keep an

1761
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 5: eye on this for me, or what are you do

1762
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 5: in this situation? Very rarely is a backup when you

1763
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 5: come off the field, like hey, come here, sit down,

1764
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 5: what are you what are you looking at? What are

1765
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 5: you doing? You gotta be you gotta be particular in now,

1766
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 5: and you also have to kind of diffuse other things,

1767
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 5: like it might not just be.

1768
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: For Burrow to talk to Flacco.

1769
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 5: It might be Burrow after a series to go talk

1770
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 5: to Yosi Vash like, hey, that third down, you got

1771
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 5: to get your depth, Like you need to get here

1772
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 5: because Flacco's got so many things going on that he

1773
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 5: can't make his rounds. Like someone the Green Bay game,

1774
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,839
Speaker 5: someone had had taken a picture mentioned like man, Flacco's

1775
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 5: just sitting there by himself. Yeah, well yeah, because he's

1776
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 5: trying to figure out what in the world he's doing.

1777
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 5: So like for him to come off and kind of

1778
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 5: decompress and either say, hey, Joe, what do you see

1779
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 5: on that? Or did you see that blitz they ran?

1780
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 5: What are you checking?

1781
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: Like that?

1782
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 5: As opposed to if he comes off and doesn't need

1783
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 5: Joe then joking over and say hey, Jamar, what do

1784
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: you guys see him? And then maybe he can take

1785
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 5: that and go back to Flacco and help. Hey, you

1786
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 5: know Chase is saying that that they're rolling coverage late.

1787
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 5: You know, he thinks that he can win on this

1788
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: route something like that, but you're not You're not doing

1789
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 5: much of that as he comes up the field unless

1790
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 5: he's kind of leaning into.

1791
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: You could could Jake Browning at any I don't think Jake.

1792
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 5: I don't think Jake said much. I think Jake is

1793
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: just kind of like got up a couple of times

1794
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 5: and through there was one point where I think like

1795
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 5: Jake was in the middle of Joe and Joe and

1796
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, move, what do you move that way? Get

1797
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 5: them something to drink, like, let them sit next to

1798
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 5: each other.

1799
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: Uh, Jake brown We didn't have a chance to talk

1800
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: about this either. Jake Browning when he made his last

1801
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 4: start looked and sounded like somebody who realized he just

1802
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 4: coughed away. Yeah, an opportunity to prove that he can start.

1803
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 5: I would say, like the term deer in headlights, Yeah,

1804
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 5: that type of look was what you saw, yea like

1805
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 5: as he was just trying to rationalize the game that

1806
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 5: just happened.

1807
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm not talking about during the game. The media

1808
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: is that's.

1809
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 5: It for me. Yep, you know that that was my opportunity.

1810
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 5: And again, there are plenty of opportunities for good backups

1811
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 5: in the NFL. But you know, I think the thought of, well,

1812
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 5: you know, Jake could start on some other teams, I

1813
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 5: think that went out the window with with everything he.

1814
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: Did seventeen minutes after five, how much lessing on this?

1815
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 5: How much more Flacco got? Like, is there a scenario

1816
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 5: where Joe can come back this year and next year?

1817
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 5: You make it work that Flac goes his back up

1818
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 5: just in case? Yes, Like, as long as he wants

1819
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 5: to keep playing, Yeah, why not?

1820
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: He's not going to be any less immobile or not.

1821
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 4: He's not going to be any more immobile.

1822
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 5: Right, I just watched I mean I'd watch Rogers still

1823
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 5: the ball sixty nine yards in the air at the

1824
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 5: end of the game. So arms strength isn't going to

1825
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 5: be a problem. Like if I imagine, if you're Joe

1826
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 5: Burrow and you're coming off the field and you can

1827
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 5: talk to Flacco if you need something, right, no offense

1828
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 5: to Jake Browning, Right, which one would you rather talk

1829
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 5: to me?

1830
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 4: Like, I don't even have to answer that, But if

1831
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 4: if you're Joe Flacco. It's nobody is going to sign

1832
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 4: him to be the starter.

1833
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Now.

1834
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,879
Speaker 4: He may be a placeholder, sure, like he was in Cleveland,

1835
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 4: and hey, the rookie's gonna take over.

1836
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 5: But there's a track record of injury with Joe Burrow.

1837
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 5: So if you're Joe Flacco, yeah, does it not make

1838
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 5: sense if I want to keep playing and keep being

1839
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 5: a part of an NFL team and have I'll be

1840
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 5: the backup here and oh if I need to. Yeah,

1841
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 5: But since I'm here, I know, I know Jamar and

1842
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 5: t are going to be here. Sure, sure, and I'm

1843
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 5: behind Joe who does have an injury history, so I

1844
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: can get in and play if I need be. But

1845
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 5: I'm not going to be the guy right throughout the

1846
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 5: off season. What better unless you're just ready to be like,

1847
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 5: I'm done, I'm going to be the fan guy right then?

1848
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: Then you've obviously earned that. If he wants to keep playing,

1849
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 5: how do you? How can you find a better backup?

1850
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 4: You cannot boom nineteen months, Extend him, extend him nineteen

1851
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 4: minutes after five o'clock, He's Tony Pike on Mollwager Tony

1852
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:20,080
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1853
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:26,599
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1854
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Speaker 7: is onto the left shoulder, and northbound on seventy one.

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1865
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1866
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Speaker 8: to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1867
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Five after five o'clock.

1868
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 4: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moeggar with Tony Pike. It's

1869
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,799
Speaker 4: the Tony and Mo Football Show. Here at Twin Peaks

1870
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 4: in Florence. A gorgeous Monday afternoon.

1871
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,799
Speaker 1: Beautiful Tony is back. I think the Bengals maybe as well.

1872
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 4: You see football is oh man, that coming up in

1873
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 4: just about ten minutes. I have one more question to

1874
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 4: ask you about Bengals Steelers related issues.

1875
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: And to me, this is.

1876
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 4: Truly why this show is important. It's to have you

1877
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 4: to answer this question. So I had on my show

1878
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 4: last week a guy by the name of Andrew Philipponi, yeah,

1879
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 4: sports talk radio hosts in Pittsburgh, who said, and he

1880
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 4: didn't say this on my show, but he said it.

1881
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 4: I guess on his that if the the Bengals lost

1882
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 4: to the Pittsburgh Steelers, he would pierce his nipples. Ryan Day, Yeah,

1883
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 4: do you understand why somebody would do that?

1884
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 1: No, in today's football now.

1885
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 4: If you want to do that to your body, by all,

1886
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are folks listening or with this right

1887
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 4: now who have done that to their body, and that's fine.

1888
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 4: What I don't understand is the if this happens in

1889
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 4: this sports game, I'm gonna do something like this that

1890
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 4: I ordinarily wouldn't do.

1891
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 5: What I don't understand in those settings. The only time

1892
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 5: that comes close to anything is if like your friends

1893
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 5: are betting you something right, and like, okay, what if

1894
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 5: if they win? You do this From the way I

1895
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 5: took it, he was just openly throwing it out there. Yeah, like, hey,

1896
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 5: if the Steelers win, they win. If they lose, I'll

1897
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 5: just I'll get my nipples peers, right, Like I I've

1898
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 5: been around some good teams. I don't know if I've

1899
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 5: ever been not confident in a team that I root for,

1900
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 5: never knowing how much can go wrong in a game.

1901
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 5: I'm good.

1902
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do something extreme.

1903
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 5: The only way I've ever done that was against Northwestern

1904
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 5: State for the Bearcats.

1905
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll keep that in mind during next year's FCS game.

1906
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 4: If you're gonna do that, do something that benefits someone else,

1907
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 4: Like who gains from that?

1908
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Guy?

1909
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: Andrew Philipponi, No, right, dude, I mean we don't want

1910
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 4: each other's shows. Like if if you're gonna I'm gonna

1911
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 4: do X, if Y happens, then X should benefit somebody.

1912
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Nobody has benefited.

1913
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 5: From the piercing. What are they called parlors? Is a

1914
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 5: piercing parlor? You know, where do you go to get pierced?

1915
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 4: I have no idea. One day my daughter says she's

1916
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 4: gonna get her ears pierced. We have yet to make

1917
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 4: the leap. I don't know. I went to a piercing.

1918
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 4: I was went to get a pretzel at the Kenwack

1919
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 4: Town Center remembers I called your show was act. I

1920
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 4: was looking for Leel Collins, I think, And there was

1921
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 4: a little baby getting her ears pierced. And I came

1922
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 4: this close to like taking that baby, and and like

1923
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: your life is not gonna go well, no, get out now,

1924
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 4: you clearly don't want to do this, and mom is

1925
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: making it. Yeah, so my daughter's eight, Like we've talked

1926
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 4: about it. If you want your ears piers cool, it's

1927
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 4: probably gonna hurt.

1928
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have any piercing.

1929
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 5: But there are like there are other things, Like I

1930
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 5: did something years ago. I think it was like Saint

1931
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 5: Baldrick's Foundation where I took part and I shaved my

1932
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 5: head hu. But like that goes to research and you

1933
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 5: get money to raise it. Like yeah, if you're gonna

1934
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 5: do something like that and be like hey, I'm gonna

1935
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 5: shave my head, yeah, or I'm gonna take donating. If

1936
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 5: I get this many donations, I'll pierce my nipple because

1937
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 5: I'm gonna donate the money to this yeah.

1938
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Just write the check.

1939
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, if you're gonna do something, he has he

1940
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 5: followed through yet.

1941
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: Yes, he's gotten he's gotten.

1942
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 5: The work done, because in today's world, you can't put

1943
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 5: anything on social and then back away from it.

1944
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: No, not at all.

1945
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 4: I give him credit for at least living up to

1946
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 4: what he said he was gonna do. And we'll have

1947
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 4: him back on the show in a few weeks because

1948
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 4: the Bengals play the Steelers Stillers, like on November the thirteenth.

1949
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 4: But I saw that, and I'm like, Pony, like, what's why.

1950
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I wonder like was that just out

1951
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 5: of sheer confidence from him? Was that friends that were

1952
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 5: pushing him to do it? Like, I don't know. With family,

1953
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 5: I just have a hard time believing, Like like I

1954
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 5: know Molly, you know Mayor. Yeah, I have a hard

1955
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 5: time for them being like, don't ever tweet something like

1956
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 5: I don't think Mayor would jump behind.

1957
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: That for me.

1958
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 4: I think Molly would just say, like, your stupid. You

1959
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 4: don't know if you just do something, what are you

1960
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: doing again? If you're gonna make the guarantee, right, did

1961
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 4: you do something that helps someone beyond the person who

1962
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 4: drove the two holes?

1963
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: Into his nipples. Nipples. I don't know who was helped

1964
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 1: by this. Yep, aren't you glad you're back?

1965
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: I think this is their first nipples segment.

1966
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: Talk about I couldn't have done that with James last week.

1967
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, James posted a shirtless pick with it, and now

1968
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 5: he did it with his daughter. Yeah, daughter's adorable. But

1969
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 5: James posted one You've got a lot of lettuce. He's

1970
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 5: got a lot of chest lettus.

1971
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 4: I'll say this this summer, I was on vacation, yeah,

1972
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 4: Saint George Island with my family, and I took a

1973
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 4: picture of myself smoking a cigar and I had like

1974
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: my feet up the ocean in the background. And he commented,

1975
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 4: and nobody wants to see your feet. Oh, valid, fair,

1976
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 4: valid point. And then my guy decides to go shirtless.

1977
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 4: Now he had his beautiful daughter Quinn with right, which

1978
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 4: saved the photo. If you're gonna criticize me for a

1979
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 4: feet pick.

1980
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 5: Especially when you get that, I need to see your man.

1981
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 5: I just never viewed James because I clean cut short hair.

1982
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 5: And then it's like boom, he's got hair all over

1983
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 5: his chest.

1984
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the bearcats?

1985
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 5: And then he posted a picture that night at the game. Yeah,

1986
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 5: and he's like button out and I'm like, listen, if

1987
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 5: you're gonna tease the chest hair it let a little

1988
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 5: bit of.

1989
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 1: A hangout, Let it go.

1990
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 5: Let a little hangout. It's a different role for him.

1991
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: I'm really sort of sorry I introduced this topic.

1992
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk about the Bearcats next.

1993
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: On The Tony and Mo Football Show on esp HAD

1994
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,040
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1995
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1996
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1997
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1998
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1999
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2000
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2001
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2002
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2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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2008
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2009
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2010
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2013
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2014
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 4: Who will either start Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields at quarterback?

2015
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 4: Is that the NFL status franchise gotta be?

2016
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 5: Poor Aaron Glenn.

2017
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: Poor Aaron Glenn.

2018
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 5: I'll probably just get canned and get a multimillion dollar

2019
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 5: buyout too.

2020
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 4: The game is on Sunday at one o'clock on ESPN fifteen.

2021
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 4: Pre Camp coverage starts at at nine am. Now there's

2022
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 4: two Monday night football games Tonight. Fox Sports thirteen sixty

2023
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 4: has them both Bucks and Lions and Detroit Texans and

2024
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 4: Seahawks and Seattle Baseball. Tonight, America League Championship Series Game

2025
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 4: seven in Toronto, Blue Jays hosting the Mariners. George Kirby

2026
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 4: for Seattle, Shane Bieber for Toronto. Winner takes on the

2027
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 4: LA Dodgers winner will be rooted for by pretty much

2028
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 4: everybody college football you see twenty first in both major

2029
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 4: polls and bowl eligible. Ohio State retains the top spot

2030
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: in both major polls, Indiana second, Louisville nineteenth, and the

2031
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 4: AP twenty second in the Coach's poll. Evander named to

2032
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: a Team of the Match day for his performance in

2033
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati's went over Montreal on Saturday night.

2034
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: He had a goal and an assist.

2035
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 4: FCC will host the Columbus Crew in game one of

2036
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 4: their best of three series a week from the seven.

2037
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Tony Pike is here. It's The Tony Football Show on

2038
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. The UC Bearcats on Saturday night. Offensively,

2039
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 4: for much of the game looked like the greatest and

2040
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 4: most well coached offensive team I've ever seen. That might

2041
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 4: be a slight exaggeration, but only Slider.

2042
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 5: They're fun, man, They're fun Offensively. I don't know. I

2043
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 5: don't know where the weakness is. We can talk about

2044
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 5: the defense. When you talk about the yards given up, Yeah,

2045
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 5: back to back games, it's felt like they've gotten gashed.

2046
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 5: They gave up eleven and seventeen points. If you do

2047
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 5: that with this offense, you're gonna win. They need to

2048
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 5: tackle better, but they are like we throw the term

2049
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 5: out there, ben, but don't break. That's them. That is

2050
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 5: their defensive philosophy. They'll give up yards and then inside

2051
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 5: the twenty they're gonna shrink things down. Special teams are

2052
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,600
Speaker 5: elite offensively, Mo.

2053
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: You can't fair catch the ball at the three yard Yeah.

2054
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Beyond that, yes, team.

2055
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 5: I can't say lee yet of Especial teams are great.

2056
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: It markedly improved, yes, from.

2057
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 5: Where they were. But to me, it's about the offense

2058
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 5: because we could talk about any of the wide receivers.

2059
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 5: We could talk about Joe Royer, who is now showing

2060
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 5: why he's one of the best tight ends available that

2061
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 5: coming into this draft. He run blocks, he passed blocks,

2062
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 5: he catches passes, He's strong, he has an understanding and

2063
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 5: you saw that the other night. Third and eighty catches

2064
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 5: the pass, he gets right upfield, knows where the first

2065
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 5: down is. But then in another pass he makes a

2066
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 5: move and scores a touchdown. We've seen long runs after

2067
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 5: catch like he's just everything you want as a quarterback

2068
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 5: as a safety net. And then you've got this dual

2069
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 5: threat running game with Walker and Pryor, who hitch in

2070
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 5: so many different ways. Swarsby's a threat to run. He's

2071
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 5: throwing the ball as confidently as anyone else in the country.

2072
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, they're not doing it around

2073
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 5: a makeshift oh line. They're doing it around an O

2074
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 5: line who's been the best offensive line three weeks now

2075
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 5: in the Big Twelve. It's one of the best in

2076
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 5: the country. So what they're doing on offense, they have ways.

2077
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 5: Like a lot of offense, you come in and say, well,

2078
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna take this away. What do you want

2079
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 5: to take away? Because you're gonna be susceptible on the

2080
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 5: other side. And Oklahoma State did that first drive of

2081
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 5: the game. They kept two high safeties back, ran the

2082
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 5: ball down the field, they brought a safety up, they

2083
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 5: make a throw touchdown like it. It's just hard to

2084
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 5: it's hard to go against them. The best thing you

2085
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 5: can do, and the the Achilles heel of this team

2086
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 5: is because they've been but don't break. They are susceptible

2087
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 5: to fifteen play drive and it just keeps you off

2088
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 5: the field.

2089
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 4: That's the thing I think from an offensive perspective, what

2090
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 4: I like is where it starts.

2091
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: That offensive line is terrific, you know.

2092
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 4: And let's be honest, like two years ago in the

2093
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 4: Big Twelve, that was an area the team that was

2094
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 4: quite good.

2095
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: They ran the ball very effectively.

2096
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 4: This unit is is much better, much better equipped for

2097
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 4: the Big twelve. I also, they were really good in

2098
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 4: the first half on Saturday, hit a rough spot in

2099
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 4: the third quarter, and then help put the game away

2100
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. I like the fact they don't

2101
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 4: turn it over. Yeah, one turnover in the last five games.

2102
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 4: Soresby doesn't make every throw, but he doesn't make mistake.

2103
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 5: But with him he can miss a couple. And then

2104
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 5: he starts the fourth quarter with a third and eighteen. Yeah,

2105
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 5: just perfect throw? Was third and sixteen or third eighteen sixteen?

2106
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 5: Third and sixteen throw?

2107
01:42:53,160 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: To call it?

2108
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 4: Well, yep, First of all, it's an eleven point game.

2109
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 4: Their sideline is starting to feel it. You and Dan

2110
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 4: were talking about it. The crowd starting to feel it.

2111
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 4: That is, if that's if that first down isn't made.

2112
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit uneasy.

2113
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Doors open that throw.

2114
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 4: Forget the fact that they scored, forget the fact they

2115
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't got to pick six. That throw felt like it

2116
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 4: shut the door. Yeah, and the degree of difficulty involved. Yep, defensively,

2117
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 4: you're it's just the length of the opposing drives.

2118
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my only worry. Yeah, my worry is that

2119
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 5: a team can come in and control those drives multiple times,

2120
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, as an offense, you

2121
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 5: start to counter possessions like you might not be in

2122
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 5: a rhythm. But then you start thinking like, well, if

2123
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 5: this keeps up, only going to get the ball four

2124
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 5: more times, and then you start pressing a little bit

2125
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 5: and that's when you turn the ball over. What I

2126
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 5: worry to make something happen here.

2127
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 1: What I worry about is if they have to come back.

2128
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2129
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 4: Now, the Kansas game was a comeback win, but like

2130
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 4: the other team gets it. First two drives are long,

2131
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 4: and it's fourteen nothing, and you've got to make up

2132
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 4: a deficit all offensively, and you might have to do

2133
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 4: it on minimal possessions because the other team is good

2134
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 4: at possessing the ball. Yeah, that's what I wonder about.

2135
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 4: But you look Scott's Saddlefield has his critics. I think

2136
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 4: he'd be the first to tell you that over the

2137
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 4: course of his first two seasons he deserved a lot

2138
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 4: of it. You always talk about play design, like there

2139
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 4: was some nifty stuff, yeah, and some really good play

2140
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 4: calls on Saturday night.

2141
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 5: It just it's fun. Like they come out and they

2142
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 5: score a touchdown on a RPO where Swersby reads the end,

2143
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 5: he pulls it and then he's got Cyrus Allen behind

2144
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 5: him and they run it into an option and then

2145
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 5: they score on the option. And then two series later

2146
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 5: they come back and run that same look and then

2147
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 5: they fake the option pitch and Sworsby sets up for

2148
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 5: a deep shot down the field. Like they just do

2149
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 5: so many things that look exactly alike that are completely

2150
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 5: different to an opposing defense. I think they're so hard

2151
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 5: to prepare for. I think there's a little caution with

2152
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 5: Saturday's game coming up. Yes, if you just look at

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Speaker 5: Baylor at four and three, they scored twenty four against Auburn.

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Speaker 5: They scored forty eight at the time against seventeenth rank SMU.

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Speaker 5: They scored forty two on Sanford, They lost by three

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Speaker 5: to Arizona State, They hung forty five on Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 5: They beat Kansas State thirty five thirty four. They lost

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Speaker 5: forty two to thirty six over the weekend. They can

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Speaker 5: score now their defense isn't great, which helps you see,

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Speaker 5: but their offense can go with anybody, and you've got

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Speaker 5: to find ways to sure things up. And to your point,

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Speaker 5: you can't let Baylor come in and take a multi

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Speaker 5: touchdown lead early because we just haven't seen that yet.

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Speaker 5: But man, they're exciting to watch, and you start to

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Speaker 5: kind of you know it's weak to week, but you

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Speaker 5: can't help but start to peek ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's.

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Speaker 5: At Utah and then Arizona's here, BYU's here, You're at

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Speaker 5: TC like there's a path Like I looked at the

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Speaker 5: big twelve standings, BYU's ahead of them, But then you

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Speaker 5: have Arizona State, Texas Tech, Houston, Iowa State. What of

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Speaker 5: those teams have in common? You don't play any of them.

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Speaker 5: They're all off your schedule. So meanwhile, BYU's now got

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Speaker 5: to go to what they go to Iowa State and

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Speaker 5: then they got to go to Texas Tech. Not an

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Speaker 5: easy road. So you're starting to get in the mode

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Speaker 5: of take care of the next couple weeks, and you're

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Speaker 5: in the driver's seat to play in Dallas. They're six

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Speaker 5: and one and it doesn't feel like they've played their best. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean we talked about third quarter, they disappeared, Iowa State,

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Speaker 5: the offense went away. Doesn't feel like they've been complete yet.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fun to think about where this team

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Speaker 4: can go. The Big twelve does feel wide open. Folks

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Speaker 4: are going to bring up last year. Look at this stage.

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Speaker 4: Last year they were five and two. I played the

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Speaker 4: audio and the pregame show on Saturday. Dante Corleone, among many,

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Speaker 4: has been emphatic this isn't like last year. And I

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Speaker 4: agree because I just think they have more Big twelve

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Speaker 4: dudes and their biggest issue late last season was offensively

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Speaker 4: lack of explosiveness.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have it.

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Speaker 1: They have it this year. You know. One.

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Speaker 5: I think there's two things. Scott Suderfield deserves a ton

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Speaker 5: of credit because he took a ton of heat by

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Speaker 5: a lot of people. He's in charge of the offense,

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Speaker 5: and the offense is operating a high level. Not only that,

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Speaker 5: say what you want about how last year went. Royer

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Speaker 5: decided to come back, Corleone decided to come back, Gold

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Speaker 5: stayed Soreersby State, like a lot of their key players

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01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 5: probably had offers to go elsewhere and they said no,

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Speaker 5: we want to come back. Because they like I'm in

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Speaker 5: the locker room after the game. They love Soaderfield. The

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Speaker 5: players love him and you can see that in the

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Speaker 5: way they play.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 5: You hear players talk like every team, no matter who

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01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 5: you are, every team says the beginning, we want to

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Speaker 5: win a championship. We want to win a bit. It's

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Speaker 5: one thing to say it. It's another team when you

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Speaker 5: see It's another thing when you see a team starting

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Speaker 5: to believe it. I see a team that works butt off,

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01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 5: but they also are confident, like they know that they

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01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 5: have a legitimate chance to get It's not window dressing.

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Speaker 5: They can go win it. And I think confidence makes

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Speaker 5: teams dangerous.

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Speaker 4: I think they're a dangerous team. You know, you said

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Speaker 4: it on the broadcast on Saturday. You're trying to find

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Speaker 4: I think they have weaknesses. I don't think they have holes.

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Speaker 4: Like defensively, they could be better. They could be a

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Speaker 4: better tackling team. They finally got a pick, could be

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Speaker 4: better at ball disruption, could be better, you know, at

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Speaker 4: just not letting teams Author twelve fourteen to fifteen play drives.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure there's a glaring hole now.

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Speaker 4: The way they've used Dante Corleone, it is kind of

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Speaker 4: interesting because they're a different team when he's not on

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Speaker 4: the field. But when Dante Corleon's on the field, they

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Speaker 4: have a very good front three. The linebacker group is

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Speaker 4: as good as anybody. I think the secondary has checked

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Speaker 4: every box that you might have put in front of him.

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Speaker 1: Before the season started.

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Speaker 5: We'll see they got to play deep balls better.

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Speaker 1: They've got to play deepen your head around.

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Speaker 5: And the only other saying, I'm wonder because it's now

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Speaker 5: deep into the season and regardless healthy or not, Corleon

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Speaker 5: is not gonna play one hundred percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 1: I'm close it is Mo.

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Speaker 5: It's it's so unbelievably night and day when he's in

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Speaker 5: verse when he's nine, And I wonder, if you're Tyson

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Speaker 5: invite if you can go multi looks more, meaning if

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Speaker 5: Corleone's not in, can you go down to a more

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Speaker 5: traditional fore man and prevent the middle of the field,

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Speaker 5: Because what Corleone's great at is he takes on multiple blocks.

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Speaker 5: You can't single block him. If you could single block

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Speaker 5: the nose in a three man front, well then you

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Speaker 5: get up to the second level easy. And so I

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Speaker 5: wonder if you put two in there and a four

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01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 5: man front. That's harder to get to the second level

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Speaker 5: in the running game, because if Corleone's not in, this

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Speaker 5: team is susceptible to getting gassed on the ground. And

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Speaker 5: when you're getting gashed on the ground not for twenty

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Speaker 5: thirty yards, but for six seven yards, then all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, you're off the field for nine minutes, and

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Speaker 5: that becomes an issue.

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Speaker 4: Luke Fickle not only is still employed at Wisconsin after

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Speaker 4: another shutout loss at home, this time to Ohio State

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Speaker 4: with the fans chanting fire Phiddle. Not only is he

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Speaker 4: still employed, the athletic director has written a letter to

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Speaker 4: Badger Nation Yeah, showing confidence in the coach, but looking

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Speaker 4: for more financial resources for him.

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Speaker 5: Need more, by the way, go to Oregon this week. Great,

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Speaker 5: it's a bizarre scene. I said this earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Though there is no way he's the coach next year.

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Speaker 5: Can't be. I can't figure out how he's not gone

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Speaker 5: a right.

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Speaker 4: I root for him, man, I'm not that guy who's

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Speaker 4: been like I want him to have success. He has

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Speaker 4: had none. There is no way that school could bring

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Speaker 4: him back next year.

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Speaker 5: None. College football in itself feels like it's Ohio State

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Speaker 5: and then a big gap.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does.

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Speaker 5: I mean we watched the number two team get beat

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Speaker 5: in Miami on Friday night, Old Miss. They were top five,

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Speaker 5: not surprised there, and Indiana's really good. They're not on

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Speaker 5: Ohio State's level. No, it doesn't feel like there's another

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Speaker 5: team on the level of Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I like Julian saying, yeah, I mean, look what a

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Speaker 4: hacked defense. To man, what hangs over the program is

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Speaker 4: the Michigan game.

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Speaker 1: But it does. And the way you could tell is

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Speaker 1: how little they're talked about.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean nationally, nobody's really talking about the number one

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Speaker 4: team in the country because.

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Speaker 5: This is that dominant.

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Speaker 4: They don't play an extraor they did against Texas, but

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Speaker 4: they don't play an extraordinarily competitive games.

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Speaker 5: Let me give you an over under. Yeah, Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 5: if he starts Sunday over under yards that he had

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Speaker 5: at the Orange Bowl, how many have ninety nine less

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Speaker 5: than I did? Does he throw for more than one

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01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:54,799
Speaker 5: forty on Sunday if he starts?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you seen the Bengals defense? Yes, answer is yes.

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Speaker 4: To go Tony, great to have you back, great to

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Speaker 4: be here. Tony returns for Sincy three sixty tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we are back here in Florence a week from today.

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Speaker 4: I returned tomorrow at three oh five thanks to Mike Mills. Oh,

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Speaker 4: we gotta do the giveaway, yeah, yah ya, Yeah, we're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Do it off air. Yeah. Anybody who can wins here.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: I want to thank Mike Mills for producing on site

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Speaker 4: our guy tarn Beck and Kenwood as well. The Mark

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Speaker 4: Stoop Show is next. Talk about a guy still has

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Speaker 4: a job and I'm not sure. Mark Stoop Show is next.

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Speaker 4: the staff here at Twin Peaks two. This is ESPN

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