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Speaker 1: ever cleaner energy. Ian Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for the time.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: How are you what's going on? Are you guys doing

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Speaker 3: great to talk.

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Speaker 2: To with the I we were talking before you came on.

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Speaker 2: The number. I'm not sure your numbers, guy, but the

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Speaker 2: number the number for the Super bowls four and a half.

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Speaker 2: It opened at four and a half and it's not

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Speaker 2: moved at all. It's the first Super Bowl that I

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Speaker 2: can remember in a long time that hasn't seen any

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Speaker 2: sort of fluctuation in the betting line. Is that significant

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Speaker 2: in your mind? And if so, what does it mean?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, like, I've done this for a long time, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not a certainly not a betting expert. I obviously

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Speaker 3: don't gamble myself and all of those things, right, I

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Speaker 3: really struggled to find any correlation to reality between the

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Speaker 3: I would say generally what it reflects is public see

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Speaker 3: men in public confidence, right, and so it seems like

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Speaker 3: public sentiment and public confidence has not changed. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think most people think the Seahawks is a better team.

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Speaker 3: Patriots could for sure win, But I mean that's what

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Speaker 3: it feels like to me, the better, more complete team,

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Speaker 3: bothtball coached. You know, maybe Patriots have excuse me, I

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Speaker 3: really good. It's like it's just a good solid matchup.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know what would sort of swing it

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Speaker 4: Honestly, Hey, Ian Shelby Harris here when it comes to

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Speaker 4: Davis Webb, we obviously we heard about him taking head

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Speaker 4: coaching interviews and even had some interest and opportunities to

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Speaker 4: go maybe call plays somewhere else. I guess what, what

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Speaker 4: you may not even be able to call plays compared

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Speaker 4: to goals of rails, where you could have a little

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Speaker 4: bit more rain, you have a little bit more free

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Speaker 4: to and what you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't want to speak

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Speaker 3: for Davis web but whether or not he call college plays,

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Speaker 3: we'll see on that whether he calls plays, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot to learn from Sean Payton. I think if you're

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Speaker 3: Davis Webb thirty one years old or whatever he is,

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Speaker 3: be a future head coach in the NFL. Calling plays

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Speaker 3: is great, it really is. But learning to be a

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Speaker 3: with adversity and all the things that're going to being

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Speaker 3: a head coach, you know, that's paramount. And you know

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton, I mean you look around the NFL. You

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Speaker 3: see all the people that's stealing people from his staff.

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Speaker 3: You see what it's been like in the past. I

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Speaker 3: mean he has had, you know, he he gets teams ready,

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Speaker 3: by any means necessary. I think there's a lot to

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Speaker 3: like with Davis web for staying another year with Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how many more after this, but I really

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Speaker 3: like the decision for him to stay.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Broncos fans seem to like it as well.

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Speaker 1: You got a report on Monday night last week that

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Speaker 1: caught a little by surprise out here about Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: and how you said Sean had reached out to Joe

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Speaker 1: that perspective, perspective because Sean Payton doesn't typically hand over

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Speaker 1: minds have been open to the possibility maybe Sean's thinking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think if you're another want to

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Speaker 2: And it looks like Klint Kobek is going to be

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised. And my understanding is all sides

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Speaker 3: you know, the eleventh highest paid head coach or whatever

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Speaker 3: it is. I should make up a number, and you

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Speaker 3: And you know this Arsenal made and new OC as well.

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Speaker 4: Well. I we we both don't that tampering is a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I know he got real

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Speaker 3: It's frustrating because he's one of the best coordinators in

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Speaker 3: What's his future look like. I think it's still to

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Speaker 3: be determined. You know, there's a lot of different ways

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Speaker 3: Or you can say, hey, you know it helps money.

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Speaker 3: People like money. Money helps He makes someone feel better

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah. My last question obviously this last coaching cycle,

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Speaker 3: john managers that don't that doesn't happen anymore. You know,

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Speaker 3: think the NFL has tried. I just don't know. Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I wish, I wish I knew, I wish I had

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Speaker 3: some answers, but you know, unfortunately I don't.

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Speaker 1: Ian always great man, enjoy super Bowl Week and we

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Speaker 1: will check in with you next week. Man, appreciate you

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Speaker 1: all right.

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