WEBVTT - HR. 2 – Screwing Studs 0:00:12.190 --> 0:00:12.710 Welcome back. 0:00:15.710 --> 0:00:16.460 Ben Lieber's here. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:17.040 Hi, Ben. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:18.400 Hi, Ben. Hey, guys. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.560 Are you dry yet? Hot. 0:00:21.739 --> 0:00:22.360 Oh, man, dude. 0:00:22.380 --> 0:00:23.260 It sucked. 0:00:23.940 --> 0:00:26.000 It's just it rained the whole time. 0:00:26.180 --> 0:00:26.540 I know. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.300 Until like the what? The one second left in the game. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.100 And then we were like, oh, the Lord wants Chicago 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:32.860 to win this game. 0:00:33.260 --> 0:00:34.760 Because the rain went away. 0:00:35.500 --> 0:00:35.840 But no. 0:00:36.340 --> 0:00:38.379 Actually, everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:38.880 them yesterday. 0:00:39.780 --> 0:00:39.920 Yeah. 0:00:39.950 --> 0:00:40.030 Yeah. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.100 Yeah. I mean, obviously it wasn't a great day for them, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.060 and there are times it wasn't a great day for 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:52.210 us either. So, yeah, it was a really– obviously it 0:00:52.250 --> 0:00:55.690 wasn't like a fun game in that shootout fashion that 0:00:55.730 --> 0:00:57.870 we were hoping that when it was on the schedule 0:00:57.950 --> 0:01:01.750 and after their 59-point win last week, and we felt like, okay, well, 0:01:01.790 --> 0:01:04.490 Carson Wentz and a whole week of practice, and we 0:01:04.510 --> 0:01:07.390 like our run game and blah, blah, blah. But you 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.470 go out to– The Soldier Field, once again, I mean, 0:01:10.630 --> 0:01:12.590 we're on a hell of a run right now. 0:01:12.630 --> 0:01:13.270 Seven straight. 0:01:13.310 --> 0:01:17.289 Beating those guys at their place. You know, it's usually 0:01:17.310 --> 0:01:21.170 a pretty tough environment. Adam talked about the tough field conditions, which, 0:01:21.690 --> 0:01:24.330 you know, have gotten a lot better than in the 0:01:24.350 --> 0:01:27.069 past history. I mean, they keep their grass much shorter 0:01:27.110 --> 0:01:29.950 now because of the soccer team that plays there. So 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.460 they have to play on a short pitch there. So 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.680 they can no longer manipulate the field conditions like they 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.380 had when we were playing with Adrian. They would, they 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.259 would intentionally have the grass long and slow us down, but, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.140 and slow him down. But yeah, it was, we all 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:49.430 saw it was a sloppy, wet, messy game. And it 0:01:49.570 --> 0:01:51.450 just came down to a few plays here and there. 0:01:51.750 --> 0:01:55.150 And thank God that our defense just rose up, dude. 0:01:55.210 --> 0:01:58.030 I mean, our, our defensive line, maybe the best game 0:01:58.050 --> 0:02:00.470 I've seen them play collectively in a really long time. 0:02:00.490 --> 0:02:02.450 And it came at the right moment. 0:02:03.010 --> 0:02:06.210 So where do you stand on the field goal with 0:02:06.210 --> 0:02:09.430 109 to go? Chicago's out of timeouts, right? I think 0:02:09.470 --> 0:02:10.590 they were out of timeouts, were they not? 0:02:11.450 --> 0:02:11.989 I feel like they were. 0:02:12.090 --> 0:02:12.810 They definitely were, yeah. 0:02:12.870 --> 0:02:13.950 So they're out of timeouts. 0:02:13.970 --> 0:02:15.250 It's hard to use them on our last drive. 0:02:15.350 --> 0:02:17.790 And it's fourth and seven from Chicago's 21. 0:02:17.790 --> 0:02:19.970 Now, again, I know you're doing your job, so you 0:02:20.010 --> 0:02:22.739 weren't listening to Greg Olson stumble over trying to explain this, 0:02:22.780 --> 0:02:25.919 but he was trying to give the TV audience a 0:02:25.940 --> 0:02:29.450 heads up that it's overwhelmingly likely that the Vikings are 0:02:29.470 --> 0:02:31.010 going to kick a field goal here, but there's a, 0:02:31.110 --> 0:02:34.320 there's a train of thought. There's a, um, theory that 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.400 being up six late is a disaster because then it 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:38.799 forces the team to go for seven. 0:02:38.820 --> 0:02:40.079 And then you're just going to flat out lose. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.740 There's no real chance that they just kind of, uh, 0:02:42.940 --> 0:02:44.440 take the safer route and kick the field goal. 0:02:44.500 --> 0:02:45.329 And then we go to overtime. 0:02:46.050 --> 0:02:51.130 So one Oh nine, fourth and seven from Chicago is 21. 0:02:51.130 --> 0:02:51.609 Your thoughts. 0:02:53.889 --> 0:02:57.419 Um, I mean, I'm fine taking the points there. Just, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.820 I think when you factor in all of just everything 0:03:00.860 --> 0:03:03.919 with just how sloppy it was and how the execution just, 0:03:04.580 --> 0:03:06.339 when you think that you have a play and it's 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.900 just the timing of everything is, is off because of 0:03:08.940 --> 0:03:11.240 the footing and a slick ball. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.299 Like, I don't know. I just, I feel like the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.019 safer play, even though. 0:03:14.870 --> 0:03:17.510 It's, there's still a snap, there's still a hold and 0:03:17.530 --> 0:03:19.430 there's still a kicker that has to plan his foot 0:03:19.490 --> 0:03:22.900 and in gross conditions. Um, I felt like that was 0:03:23.020 --> 0:03:26.019 probably the safer play. And again, when you add it 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.200 all up and how well our defense was playing at 0:03:29.220 --> 0:03:31.500 the time, they're like, all right, our boys are going 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.140 to go out there and get a stop. And I 0:03:34.180 --> 0:03:39.860 think there obviously sometimes there's two trains of thought. And 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.000 sometimes in those situations, you're like, well, we want to 0:03:44.180 --> 0:03:47.120 show our offense that we're super confident in them that 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.180 they can pick up this fourth down or whatever, got 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.180 to have a play. But on the other side of 0:03:51.220 --> 0:03:54.840 that is, Well, take the points, and then you're also 0:03:54.860 --> 0:03:57.460 telling your defense, hey, we believe in you guys to 0:03:57.500 --> 0:04:01.660 step up. So often we think about we've got to 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.360 be aggressive on offense because it's going to permeate through 0:04:04.380 --> 0:04:06.280 the locker room like how much trust we have. Well, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.540 trust your defense too, and I think that was probably 0:04:09.580 --> 0:04:11.120 the safer play in the conditions yesterday. 0:04:11.150 --> 0:04:14.190 Yeah, this is a great example of game theory analytics 0:04:14.270 --> 0:04:18.130 versus reading the actual room, right? This is the kind 0:04:18.170 --> 0:04:21.020 of moment like if this is– Josh Allen and the 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.180 bills indoors at us bank stadium. 0:04:23.460 --> 0:04:23.599 Yeah. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.279 I'm like, I don't know if I want to make 0:04:25.380 --> 0:04:28.339 Josh Allen know that he has to score a touchdown. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.700 Cause that might be bad, but our defense is playing 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.200 insanely well. It's raining and it's Tyson Bajan. And it's 0:04:35.220 --> 0:04:37.080 one of those bits where it's like, if you're playing 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.859 the bulls, you're like, all right, we got to do everything. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.880 We kind of not let Jordan beat us. If, if 0:04:41.460 --> 0:04:43.950 Steve Kerr hits a three and Steve Kerr hits a three, 0:04:44.700 --> 0:04:47.440 That was yesterday, right? I think you take the three, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.690 and if Tyson Bajan, when he almost did, marches all 0:04:50.710 --> 0:04:52.150 the way down the field and beats you, then you 0:04:52.170 --> 0:04:54.610 just got to say, we blew it. The defense didn't 0:04:54.670 --> 0:04:56.450 do it, and they deserved to win. So I think 0:04:56.490 --> 0:04:58.230 it was the right call yesterday, but it's the perfect 0:04:58.290 --> 0:05:01.420 example of, in a different situation, I don't know if 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.440 I love that decision. But yesterday, I think you got 0:05:03.460 --> 0:05:04.060 to take the points. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.560 Ben, did we, in fact, do a lot less blitzing 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.000 yesterday as you theorized we might? 0:05:09.460 --> 0:05:11.640 Well, okay, so I'm glad you brought that up. 0:05:11.779 --> 0:05:15.400 So... you know, after the game, you know, with, without seeing, 0:05:15.420 --> 0:05:18.140 I mean, from my field perspective, as you know, it's, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.140 it's not always the best perspective to. 0:05:20.140 --> 0:05:21.220 See everything about the game. 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.900 I didn't think because I, because it looked like we 0:05:25.940 --> 0:05:29.520 did less pre-snap movement, there didn't seem to be this 0:05:29.620 --> 0:05:33.070 cat and mouse game pre-snap that we saw the previous week. 0:05:34.010 --> 0:05:37.570 It seemed like there was less blitzing. And then I 0:05:37.589 --> 0:05:39.770 see the next gen stats come out after the game. 0:05:39.910 --> 0:05:42.089 And I was like, wow, we, We blitzed a lot. 0:05:42.230 --> 0:05:42.740 Oh, really? 0:05:43.570 --> 0:05:46.600 I think we blitzed something like in the high 70%, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.860 which still feels very off to me based on just 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.300 recalling the game. So I did, when I woke up 0:05:54.339 --> 0:05:56.660 this morning, I did just kind of run through real 0:05:56.740 --> 0:06:01.260 quick at least the first half of defense just because 0:06:01.300 --> 0:06:03.220 it's been bugging me. And this is the question I 0:06:03.260 --> 0:06:07.380 have that I'd have to ask, I don't know, one 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:12.130 of these analytic people how they categorize this stuff. Because 0:06:13.210 --> 0:06:15.030 most of the time when you think of a blitz 0:06:15.210 --> 0:06:19.010 or a pressure, you're bringing more than four guys. It's 0:06:19.050 --> 0:06:23.800 a five- or six-man pressure, depending on which level of 0:06:23.830 --> 0:06:28.330 defense is blitzing. So my question is, when we have 0:06:28.380 --> 0:06:32.400 a base 3-4 defense, there's five guys on the line 0:06:32.420 --> 0:06:37.150 of scrimmage. There's two overhang edge defenders. There's a defensive tackle, 0:06:37.330 --> 0:06:40.830 a nose tackle, and another defensive tackle. In that variety, 0:06:40.930 --> 0:06:43.440 they can be set up. So there are five guys 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.740 on the line of scrimmage. If all five of those 0:06:45.779 --> 0:06:49.000 guys rush the passer on a drop back, that's a 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:53.840 five-man rush. Is that considered a blitz or a pressure? 0:06:54.900 --> 0:06:57.900 When you're not using a linebacker, you're not using a nickelback, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.419 you're not using a safety, those six guys are in coverage. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.590 Is that considered, in this situation, Quantitative world of analytics, 0:07:06.770 --> 0:07:12.170 is that considered a five-man pressure? I would probably say no, 0:07:12.270 --> 0:07:19.220 because we're just in our base front. So we did 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:24.700 a lot of five-man pressures, but it wasn't always just 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.580 bringing a linebacker or bringing a safety or bringing a nickelback. 0:07:28.860 --> 0:07:31.360 It was sometimes just our five guys at the line 0:07:31.380 --> 0:07:35.750 of scrimmage just rushing the passer. So I, I feel 0:07:35.770 --> 0:07:39.730 like at least watching the first half back, there were 0:07:39.750 --> 0:07:44.810 more pressures, certainly not in the 70 high 70, almost 80% range. 0:07:44.950 --> 0:07:47.630 I mean, I think next gen had us at 79% 0:07:47.630 --> 0:07:53.080 on dropbacks. I, I did not see that. So again, 0:07:53.820 --> 0:07:57.100 it all depends on what they, what they categorize a pressure. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.420 If it's just a five man rush with your base 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.080 front five, I would not consider that a blitzer pressure. 0:08:03.100 --> 0:08:03.300 Right. 0:08:04.090 --> 0:08:06.350 They might. So it might look like that. 0:08:06.930 --> 0:08:10.780 Again, if we drop Dallas Turner out, which he did twice, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.260 at least in the first half, into coverage in the flats, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.400 but we bring a linebacker and it's still just a 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.500 five-man rush, is that considered a blitz or a pressure? 0:08:22.220 --> 0:08:23.850 I don't know. I don't know. 0:08:23.930 --> 0:08:25.770 You know, since we just had Thielen on, you know, 0:08:25.790 --> 0:08:27.930 for years and years and years, like Thielen had to 0:08:27.990 --> 0:08:30.800 keep answering the question about, wow, what a great story 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.880 to come from nowhere and undrafted this. And then eventually 0:08:33.900 --> 0:08:36.000 it's like, guys, I've made like Pro Bowls and stuff 0:08:36.020 --> 0:08:38.870 like the stories so far in the past. 0:08:38.950 --> 0:08:40.170 Right. Like, when are we just going to say, like, 0:08:40.230 --> 0:08:43.680 I'm legit? Are we already there with Jalen Redmond? 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:45.580 I'm so glad you asked that. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:45.960 Should we? 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.920 Cause like kids is a problem. 0:08:48.220 --> 0:08:50.710 I guess the way I'm, I worded it poorly, Ben, 0:08:50.730 --> 0:08:53.530 but like, is he a legit star at this point? 0:08:53.570 --> 0:08:54.150 He's a star. 0:08:54.250 --> 0:08:56.929 He's not just like a cool story anymore. I mean, 0:08:56.950 --> 0:08:59.670 he's not, he's not a cool story anymore. Um, I mean, 0:08:59.710 --> 0:09:04.410 he is still a cool story, but what a beast he's, he's, 0:09:04.429 --> 0:09:09.550 he's a, he's a legitimate top defensive tackle in the league. Um, 0:09:10.700 --> 0:09:13.000 And I'm glad that he's starting to get his praise. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.670 And I'm glad that John Gruden recognized him and shouted 0:09:16.710 --> 0:09:19.429 him out. And I'm glad these people are starting to 0:09:19.470 --> 0:09:21.730 understand how good he is. I mean, I think if 0:09:21.750 --> 0:09:25.710 you polled all the offensive coordinators and the offensive linemen 0:09:25.730 --> 0:09:28.559 that we've played, they're going to say, like, this guy 0:09:28.620 --> 0:09:31.660 is not just a cute story. He's a problem. He 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.020 is a problem every single snap. And I think that's 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.850 the really encouraging thing about him, too, is he doesn't stop. 0:09:39.340 --> 0:09:42.740 Like he and he and El Presidente, they just they 0:09:42.780 --> 0:09:43.760 don't stop moving. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.730 And and I saw those guys. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.490 I mean, I was I actually talked to both of 0:09:48.530 --> 0:09:52.410 those guys last night and they were I was like, 0:09:52.450 --> 0:09:53.630 how exhausted are you guys? 0:09:53.650 --> 0:09:54.610 I'm like, oh, my gosh. 0:09:54.770 --> 0:09:59.660 I think Levi was like, dude, at halftime, I had 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.640 to have a meeting with myself about how I'm going 0:10:02.660 --> 0:10:04.300 to have my mind right for the second half because 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.400 I was so tired. And those guys, you would never 0:10:08.460 --> 0:10:12.069 think watching the game that they were missing a beat. 0:10:12.330 --> 0:10:16.850 They're so well-conditioned. They're so relentless. You love their energy, 0:10:16.910 --> 0:10:18.720 and they get so much respect from everybody in the 0:10:18.750 --> 0:10:20.839 locker room. If you talk to anybody in the locker room, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:25.640 whether you're talking front office person, you're talking a teammate, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.550 and you bring up Jalen Redman's name, dude, they all 0:10:28.590 --> 0:10:31.110 just smile. They all smile and appreciate how. 0:10:31.070 --> 0:10:31.500 Good he is. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.040 You could argue he saved the game, right? That punch 0:10:34.100 --> 0:10:37.320 out at the one. Yeah, intentional punch out. 100% intentional. 0:10:37.340 --> 0:10:40.980 That wasn't like an accidental. No, that was a jab. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.069 That was a straight right-hand punch. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.550 They punched that one in, butterfly effect. The whole thing 0:10:45.590 --> 0:10:47.850 feels different, right? It might feel like it's unraveling. So 0:10:48.309 --> 0:10:51.689 that was a gigantic play. Anytime you have a fumble 0:10:51.710 --> 0:10:53.450 at the one, it's a gigantic play. But, I mean, 0:10:53.490 --> 0:10:57.630 that was a game shifter. Probably saved the whole game, 0:10:57.670 --> 0:10:58.370 to be honest with you. 0:10:58.470 --> 0:10:58.850 What a play. 0:11:00.070 --> 0:11:01.770 More with Ben Lieber and the rest of the Power 0:11:01.770 --> 0:11:03.090 2 Morning Show after this on The Fan. 0:11:04.830 --> 0:11:07.330 It's Chris Hockey. Big jobs aren't the only jobs that 0:11:07.370 --> 0:11:13.410 deserve cat equipment. Ziggler cat. Man, this Bengals team might 0:11:13.450 --> 0:11:13.970 be for real. 0:11:15.860 --> 0:11:16.650 They can stay healthy. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:17.200 I know. 0:11:17.220 --> 0:11:18.900 If they can stay, I guess that's, you know what, 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.240 you're right. That's probably that way for everybody, right? But man, 0:11:21.260 --> 0:11:26.010 I didn't expect that. Burrow made it two weeks last 0:11:26.050 --> 0:11:27.170 year before he got hurt, I think, right? 0:11:27.210 --> 0:11:27.590 Is that right? 0:11:27.730 --> 0:11:29.490 Remember the soft season when we were having the pipe 0:11:29.530 --> 0:11:31.430 dream that could we trade for Joe Burrow? 0:11:31.790 --> 0:11:33.589 That was fun to think about for a second, right? 0:11:33.610 --> 0:11:39.109 They might trade for now. Justin Herbert, because he's terrible. Buns! 0:11:39.450 --> 0:11:41.830 They're cheats. 0:11:41.870 --> 0:11:44.150 Mike McDaniel, or however you say that guy's name, he 0:11:44.190 --> 0:11:45.290 might be out of a job. 0:11:45.309 --> 0:11:47.770 Fraudulent. Oh, yeah. $ 3 bill right now. 0:11:47.830 --> 0:11:48.010 Yes. 0:11:49.470 --> 0:11:49.950 Great album. 0:11:49.970 --> 0:11:53.079 Ben's got a great work ethic, and he cares about stuff. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.420 But I have to be honest with you. I'm done 0:11:56.460 --> 0:11:58.119 with football by the end of a Vikings game on 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.840 a work day. I have no idea what happened. Why 0:12:00.860 --> 0:12:03.970 are they so bad? What's going on with them? Is 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:04.949 it the quarterback play? 0:12:05.010 --> 0:12:05.309 What is it? 0:12:05.309 --> 0:12:07.750 The quarterback play isn't good. They turn the ball over 0:12:07.830 --> 0:12:11.929 in really weird opportunities. I don't know if they had 0:12:11.950 --> 0:12:14.290 the lead, but they were driving to either tie it 0:12:14.870 --> 0:12:18.410 or put up points yesterday, and Omari and Hampton, their 0:12:18.470 --> 0:12:20.180 stud young running back. 0:12:20.530 --> 0:12:22.390 Just flat out dropped the ball. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.980 And Kirko, 19-29 for three touchdowns yesterday. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:28.540 The Raiders are 2-0, man. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:33.719 Oh. Sarger's defense is terrible. I think that's either part 0:12:33.740 --> 0:12:34.360 of it, too. 0:12:34.380 --> 0:12:36.320 That was kind of their calling card. Yeah. 0:12:37.300 --> 0:12:40.780 Harbaugh might, yeah. It's a sinking ship over there. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.170 I mean, whatever the fan equivalent is in L.A., do 0:12:44.190 --> 0:12:46.810 you think anyone for one second thought that they were 0:12:46.850 --> 0:12:49.350 going to lose to the Cardinals or the Raiders? They 0:12:49.370 --> 0:12:53.349 penciled those two in as wins easily. Their schedule is 0:12:53.530 --> 0:12:56.030 brutal coming up, too. And a lot of people in L.A. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:57.260 don't care about the Chargers. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:58.560 True that. Yeah. 0:12:58.740 --> 0:13:00.920 I mean, I can do all the scores right now 0:13:00.940 --> 0:13:04.120 if you guys want to. Because we'll talk Vikings next 0:13:04.179 --> 0:13:05.059 if you want me to do that. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:06.640 I don't know. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:07.699 You know what? 0:13:07.980 --> 0:13:09.400 Maxo does. I mean, can we vote? 0:13:09.420 --> 0:13:11.260 You've given us too many choices now. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.679 Yeah, if you just would have said, like, it's time 0:13:13.700 --> 0:13:15.460 for a fan to five, I'll do the scores. But 0:13:15.500 --> 0:13:18.200 now you've given us an option, and now I'm hesitating. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:19.280 I vote sale. 0:13:19.300 --> 0:13:24.480 Do you want to sale the idea of me doing 0:13:24.620 --> 0:13:26.420 sports scores, or do you want to sink. 0:13:26.260 --> 0:13:26.900 It, Corey? No! 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:28.040 Bleep you! 0:13:28.620 --> 0:13:33.280 So, you asked... I could do that if you guys want, right? 0:13:33.580 --> 0:13:34.440 Order up! 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.590 And now you're asking if we sink or sail the 0:13:36.630 --> 0:13:38.830 idea that you could? Like, yes. 0:13:39.190 --> 0:13:42.490 Do you sink or sail Matthew Stafford tonight throwing five 0:13:42.530 --> 0:13:43.410 or more touchdowns? 0:13:43.820 --> 0:13:46.559 Well, hang on. I'm going to sail the idea that 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:51.970 you could do it if we wanted... It's time for 0:13:52.030 --> 0:13:52.450 Fan 5. 0:13:52.450 --> 0:13:55.570 Brought to you by Circa Resort and Casino. 0:13:55.650 --> 0:13:56.970 Thank you, Circa. We love you. 0:13:56.990 --> 0:13:57.850 That I'm going to sail. 0:13:57.870 --> 0:13:58.610 Yeah, we're going to sail. 0:13:58.750 --> 0:14:00.750 Ben, you did sink or sail. Did you not yesterday? 0:14:00.770 --> 0:14:01.250 I did. 0:14:01.270 --> 0:14:02.390 I don't think I did very well. 0:14:02.470 --> 0:14:03.350 What'd you sink and what'd you sail? 0:14:03.390 --> 0:14:06.250 I think I was one for four. Well, I did 0:14:06.290 --> 0:14:07.970 not think that Aaron Jones was going to get 21 0:14:07.970 --> 0:14:08.859 plus carries. 0:14:08.890 --> 0:14:09.380 Holy moly. 0:14:09.390 --> 0:14:10.500 He did. I think he got 23. So you sink. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.580 We would get multiple turnovers. I thought we'd get one. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.280 I didn't think we'd get multiple. So I lost that one. 0:14:20.460 --> 0:14:20.800 Jeez. 0:14:20.900 --> 0:14:23.480 You don't even know sink or sail. You don't know 0:14:23.500 --> 0:14:26.280 how it works. Anyway, but you mentioned Aaron Jones, right? 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.740 Aaron Jones had what? 0:14:28.740 --> 0:14:31.080 23, 23, 105. Since I'm looking at it right now, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:32.380 that's off the top of my head. 0:14:32.860 --> 0:14:35.240 Since I'm looking at it right now, Ashton Gentry yesterday, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.560 21 carries for the Raiders. 0:14:37.660 --> 0:14:38.420 See how many yards he had? 0:14:39.610 --> 0:14:41.990 It was like, 40 or something. 0:14:41.990 --> 0:14:42.850 48. 0:14:42.850 --> 0:14:42.950 Wow. 0:14:42.990 --> 0:14:43.570 No kidding. 0:14:43.610 --> 0:14:46.600 So, Kirko just slinging it through the air, but they 0:14:46.620 --> 0:14:48.040 couldn't get anything going on the ground. 0:14:48.540 --> 0:14:51.200 Didn't he have an ankle injury? I don't know if 0:14:51.220 --> 0:14:52.140 he played the whole game. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.880 Maybe, but 21 carries, though. 0:14:54.980 --> 0:14:58.200 So, if he left, I don't know. 21 for 48 yards. 0:14:58.220 --> 0:14:58.960 That's just brutal. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.080 Help me remember, guys. 0:15:00.100 --> 0:15:02.260 What was the running back we had last year that 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.800 played so well for us over in Dublin, but he 0:15:05.820 --> 0:15:06.160 didn't make. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:06.700 The squad this year? 0:15:06.990 --> 0:15:07.730 Xavier Scott? 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.210 Yeah. Do we need to find him and bring him back? 0:15:11.550 --> 0:15:14.250 Why are we not using Claiborne? 0:15:15.130 --> 0:15:21.210 Is he just not ready? I don't know. I don't 0:15:21.230 --> 0:15:21.850 think he's ready. 0:15:23.090 --> 0:15:26.410 I guess they just don't think that he's game ready yet. 0:15:28.140 --> 0:15:32.680 Which is fascinating because they brought in DJ Dallas and 0:15:33.770 --> 0:15:36.250 He came in and within 10 days got a decent 0:15:36.290 --> 0:15:38.990 amount of offensive reps last game in the first game 0:15:39.010 --> 0:15:42.690 of the season. And then he was obviously kind of 0:15:43.230 --> 0:15:48.070 RB number two yesterday. So he's been able to learn, 0:15:48.130 --> 0:15:50.030 I guess, enough of the offense to get in there 0:15:50.070 --> 0:15:50.670 and be trusted. 0:15:50.770 --> 0:15:52.180 So I don't really know what's going on. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.420 Got to give DJ Dallas a new headshot as well. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:57.740 No, leave it forever. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:58.820 He likes it like that. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.900 Leave it forever. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.740 It's the thing that he's known for now. Lean into it. 0:16:02.750 --> 0:16:03.530 All right, Paul, fire away. 0:16:03.550 --> 0:16:04.590 I walked up to him as we were walking in 0:16:04.610 --> 0:16:07.090 the hotel yesterday, and I did that to him, and 0:16:07.130 --> 0:16:07.850 he had me arrested. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.660 Yeah. Huck said on the pregame it didn't work well. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.120 It didn't work well. No, I love that guy. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:12.400 Yeah. 0:16:12.660 --> 0:16:13.390 He's cool. 0:16:14.210 --> 0:16:17.530 As the internet is calling it, arch madness may be 0:16:17.670 --> 0:16:22.450 over as the Panthers beat the awful Falcons 34-3. The 0:16:22.650 --> 0:16:25.130 Falcons are one of, if not probably the worst team 0:16:25.170 --> 0:16:25.670 in the league. 0:16:25.990 --> 0:16:28.500 Bryce Madness. What's that bid? Archman. 0:16:28.820 --> 0:16:29.100 Archman. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.320 They're calling it Arch Madness. For the Falcons specifically? 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.440 Well, just in general. Whoever gets the first pick. Oh, 0:16:35.500 --> 0:16:38.060 so all teams that are tanking, it's Archman. 0:16:38.100 --> 0:16:39.600 Miami by a mile the worst. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.620 Got it. No, the Falcons are awful. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:42.570 The Falcons are worse? 0:16:42.630 --> 0:16:42.890 Yeah. 0:16:43.010 --> 0:16:46.450 Really? Shocking. They shouldn't be a coach. Yeah, the Falcons 0:16:46.510 --> 0:16:47.750 have a bunch of talent. 0:16:47.930 --> 0:16:49.830 Yeah, the Falcons have so much talent. 0:16:50.450 --> 0:16:52.950 But Bryce Youngman, 23 of 36, 287 and three touchdowns yesterday. 0:16:55.790 --> 0:16:58.170 The Panthers are 1-0. The Falcons are 0-2. 0:16:58.270 --> 0:17:03.510 Mel, you heard me. Panthers are legit, man. Yeah, they are. 0:17:03.530 --> 0:17:06.550 They almost beat LA in the playoff. 0:17:06.750 --> 0:17:07.950 I just don't know what's going on in the world 0:17:07.990 --> 0:17:09.379 with the Saints beating the Ravens. 0:17:09.490 --> 0:17:12.180 I don't know. That was shocking. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.879 The Saints are good, man. Shook is 2-0. Shook is 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.720 a good quarterback. They should have beat the Lions on 0:17:17.740 --> 0:17:24.159 that weird fumble thing. the Steelers lost 20-3 to the Patriots. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:29.399 Although Drake May wasn't great, 14 of 22 for 208 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.770 in an interception, but the defense of the Patriots was outstanding. 0:17:32.790 --> 0:17:34.270 They tried to kill Rodgers yesterday. 0:17:34.310 --> 0:17:36.189 They did try to kill him. That hit on him 0:17:36.210 --> 0:17:38.370 looked like he was like, why am I here? 0:17:38.790 --> 0:17:40.230 What's up with DK Metcalf? 0:17:40.330 --> 0:17:42.890