1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our number two. 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 3: Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: Let's uh, we're going to Goodyear right now, Austin. Uh, Yeah, 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Goodyear Arizona because we got boots. 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: On the ground. Yes, that's correct. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith is in Goodyear. He's been watching spring training 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: and he's nice enough to give us some time today. 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Charlie, what's going on? 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Man? 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: How are you? 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing great technically, I've got Jordan's on the ground. 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: Not fun. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Oh you and me both, Charlie Man, okay, okay, Charlie, 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: you've uh, you've had a chance to get out to Goodyear. 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Has anything stood out to you in the short amount 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: of time you've been there thus far? 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Talking to the guys, I think there's a vibe that 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: I didn't quite recognize until I caught up with each 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: of them about where they're at and how they're feeling individually. 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: And that's the fact that you look around this team 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: and even though they made the playoffs and took a 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: step forward a lot of guys had down years in 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: twenty five, and not that there's frustration, but there's a 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: little bit of that edge about how last year went. 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: You know, Stevenson had it down here, Sear had it 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: down here, McClain, Ellie Marte opened the year in triple A, 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: didn't have a full season, Benton up and down Green. 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: A lot of these guys feel like they weren't even 31 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: quite themselves. So now you flash forward to spring training 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: and I mean, I get here pretty early and this 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: is the first year. I'm not trying to say this 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: about me, but like, this is the first year where 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: the guys are beating me to the facility, like they're 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: already here working and grinding and adding to the fact 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: the days like on the first day of pitchers and 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: catchers reporting, seven of the team's top hitters were ready 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: to do live they be and they got some unbelievable 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: competition there like pitcher excuse me, hitters haven't even reported yet. 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: But everyone's here and everyone's working hard, like truly, because 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: there's that kind of edge. 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what does the overall vibe the 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 3: energy that that feels different to you? It feels I 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: don't want to say refreshed, but you had and a 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: guy like Johannio Suarez, and it sounds like everyone's excited, 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: including him, for that. But does it feel like a 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: confident team? Does it feel like a team carrying themselves 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: differently knowing what's ahead. 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: They're older, and it's almost very practical about what these 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: guys need to do to get better, whether it's you know, 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: first base defense or thing with your swing or pitch recognition. 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: Like it's a group of guys who have had learned 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: on the fly in the big league and lived with 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: the challenges that come with that, who now have enough 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: data both literally and metaphorically to know exactly what they 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: need to do, and now they're just getting to work. 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: It's like it sounds cliche, but care Frank says it 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: and he means it, like it is just a blue collar, 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: hard working group of guys that makes for a good clubhouse. 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that there is an advantage that just 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: about everybody knows what their role is going to be, 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: that there's a defined kind of pecking order or role 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: of what is expected of everybody, that there's less questions 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: than there are or have been in the past. Do 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: you think that's an advantage for them. 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: It's kind of a huge not story, but it's kind 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: of the huge piece of camp. Like the Dodgers are 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: pretty well set. They know exactly how it's gonna look. 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: To write obviously at the Dodgers, but there really aren't 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: many teams that you can say that about, and the 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: rest are one of those teams. It goes down all 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: the way even to the fact that, like they know 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: who's going to that first starting force and we can 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: talk about who they're opposite second art. I'm working on that, 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: but the fact that they have that much settled is rare. 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: It's a side of the fact that they are very 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: confident that they know what they have. Like literally a 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: year ago, I remember talking to one of the high 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: people here and I was and he's gonna play third, 81 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: and they said, we don't know, and it ended up 82 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: being a four man battle between Jamer and CPS and 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Gavin Locke too. I like Keavin a lot, but he 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: can't make it throw from third and Marte, who was 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: in the third baseman, like the Reds have those answers 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: now and will not all over were perfect and some 87 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: of them have plenty of flaws. There is a very 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: very clear vision of what this seasons. 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: You mentioned the two hole, and that is something that 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 3: I think, out out of a lot that is known 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: of spring training, that is still a question that is 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: out there. I thought it was revealing on the Hot 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Stove League earlier in the week with Terry Francona mentioning 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: that maybe at times last year they stuck with Matt 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: McLain a little bit too much and waited for him 96 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: to hopefully turn things around. So as you look at 97 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: what's going to happen with the two hole getting into 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: the meat of spring training, what are you expecting in 99 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: that role. 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: I talked with Terry Francona a lot about this this 101 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: morning actually, and what he really stressed and where he's 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: at is how these guys do verse left handed pitching 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: is going to be key because of how many times 104 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: they felt teams just able to sleep walk through the 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: cat and mouse game and just bring in the left 106 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: hander at the top of the order when the Reds 107 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: were coming up with Freedom one and l E three. 108 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: They really are good at value hitting lefties at that 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: two spot. Now, Marque has been bad versus lefties. I know, organizationally, 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: one of the things that got the most attention during 111 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: the off season. With the plans and the work that 112 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: market has been doing to improve vers lefties, We'll see 113 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: where that goes. Spear hits lefties very well. My line 114 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: of projection right now would have fear hitting second. Frank 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: Coonuriator aded today. Ideally, if it's all said and done, mcclains, 116 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: do we think he is? And he fixed in perfectly there. 117 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: One thing to I asked was why not Ellie? And 118 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: because I kind of think that getting him those extract 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: apps just getting your top guys at the top order 120 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: and let Elly be more of a run score as 121 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: opposed to have the deep more of an RBI guy. 122 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: But but Keito said the left right stuff was what 123 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: he was putting the most emphasis sports with a lot 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: of construction. 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of La you wrote about his leg kick and 126 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: what that means, and it does kind of coincide with 127 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: what you said to us earlier this offseason that the 128 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: Reds are trying to hit home runs. Can you explain 129 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: this leg kick in Ellie's swing, why it went away 130 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and why it's back. 131 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: This is a huge deal and Ellie, like I mean, 132 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, Ellie like he's not going to come out 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: and say I want to hit forty homers this year, 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: like that's not him. But the leg kick is him 135 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: saying that without saying it. He debuted with it in 136 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and there was a mighty leg kick 137 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: on that ball. Had a family swing used it in 138 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty fourth. What were you talking about? Ellie strikes 139 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: out too much. Ellie strikes out too much. He needs 140 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: to control his own So last year he switched from 141 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: a leg kick to a toe tap, which made his 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: much more balanced, a lot less moved or a lot 143 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: fewer moving pieces, and Ellie's average went enough significantly. His 144 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: strikeout rate went down, but he didn't have the same power. 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Part of that was the quad, but a part of 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: that was the leg kick. And during the terrible second half, 147 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: a story we didn't talk enough about in September was 148 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: with two weeks left ago, Ellie kind of just said 149 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: forget it, going back to the leg kick. He was 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: really having a tough time in a lot of ways, 151 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: and he said, I'm just gonna go for it, and 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: he quietly was great during the last two weeks of 153 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: the season. This Ellie with the leg kick is to 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: quote Baker Mayfield, the guy who woke up feeling dangerous 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: and going back that this season is a sign of 156 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: type of hitter he wants to be. He can live 157 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: with some more strikeouts. There's a plan to work on 158 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: controlling his core to hopefully get both of both the 159 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: best of both worlds. And there's some week we you 160 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: know we could, but you know, it's kind of word 161 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: to talk about that. Uh, the overall power is the 162 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: bigger part of the emperor. 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Is there any concern about the let's say his strikeouts 164 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: go up, about the obviously high number of strikeouts that 165 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: au Haanio Surez has had the last couple of years 166 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: and throughout his career, is there any concern about that much, 167 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: that much swing and miss, that many strikeouts in the 168 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: middle of the lineup. 169 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: Sure I mean they're right to have a top five rotation, 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: I think I don't think they have a top five lineup. 171 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't think they have a top five middle of 172 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: the lineup. And baseball and we look at what the 173 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: flaw in that group's going to be. It's going to 174 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: be the strikeout stuff. Now, you know, it's it's chasing 175 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: your tail a bit like well, they needed more power 176 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: and then you know we'll come back around. Well, you 177 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: have too many strikeouts, Like that's just how this goes. 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: They think there's going to be enough balance around them 179 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: with TJ who doesn't strike out and is a perfect 180 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: st lead up hitter. With Stewart, who's a very polished 181 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: guy who could have pop without having the swing and 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: miss stuff. I was a guy like Spencer Steers, but 183 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: strikeouts just have to be part of it, and that'll 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: be a flaw in the middle lineup. 185 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the rotation, because there's been some conversation 186 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: about who man's the back end of the rotation, Chase Burns. 187 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: I know Terry Francona has talked about Red Louder outside 188 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: of those two is or anyone else we should be 189 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: talking about as a potential for that fit spawn the rotation. 190 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: My production has it's Burns, like when I talk about 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: the rotation, I said earlier it'll be a top five group, 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: Like I don't think there's any hyperbole when I say 193 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: that that Hunter Green's one of the best pictures in 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: baseball and he's healthy, that Andrew Rabbits one of the 195 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: most polished pitchers in baseball, and that Nick Fidolo is 196 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: a true all star talent who just hasn't had that 197 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: recognition yet, and maybe just because he hasn't had as 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: much of a spotlight, had it catch up to the 199 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: way he's viewed around the league. I don't think it's 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: hyperbly to throw praise onto those guys. I'm using all 201 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: my hyperbole points the hype up Chase Brown, Chase Brown, 202 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Chase Burns. Chase Brown too, but Chase Burns. I just 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: think this guy's really good man now. Brandon Williamson is 204 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: sneakily one of the most interesting guys in camp. He 205 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: is a completely different pitcher than he was two years ago, 206 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: and that's because he has had eighteen months to do 207 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: nothing but shoulder rehab and he finally put he was 208 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: dealing with for nearly his entire career in the Red 209 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: organization behind him. So instead of having to be a 210 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: guy who pitched the contact, which he was in twenty 211 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: twenty three when he was the Red most insistent pitcher 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: in that year, he can actually also beat guys with 213 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: the fourteen fastball. That's several miles per hour factor this year, 214 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: and that's a big development. So this is a good 215 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: rotation battle. I almost see how that hits out. 216 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Does Some fans have asked about the idea of a 217 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: six man rotation, given the injuries that Fdolo and Green 218 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: have had in the past, and maybe the innings limits 219 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: of Burns and Louder. Do you think that that would 220 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: be a possibility. 221 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: I've asked I haven't asked about that this year. Over 222 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: the last six years, I've asked Derek Johnson about that 223 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: at a different point in time, and he's always said 224 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: that he's like anti sixth man rotation. Adding to that 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: the fact that as of right now, there's no obvious 226 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: guy who would be available to provide lengths out of 227 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: your bullpen. There's no brand shooter, which you kind of 228 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: need also if you're gonna do a six man rotation 229 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: just because that leads you centner in the bullpen. 230 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie. 231 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 3: We talked to Mark Shellden earlier in the week and 232 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: he had projected Rhet Louder to be the fifth spot 233 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: in the rotation and Chase Burns to be in the bullpen. 234 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: Even if it were Chase Burns, like you think as 235 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: the five man, does that mean Rhet Louder get starts 236 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: in triple A or Is there a spot in the 237 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: bullpen for a Ret Louder, for a Chase Burns or 238 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: somebody else that isn't in that starting role. 239 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: I don't see one of these guys going to the bullpen. 240 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Starting pitching depth is so valuable. I think the best 241 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: the Reds one through eight is as good as you 242 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: could hope for. I'm kind of concerned about nine, ten, eleven, twelve, 243 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: which you need some fifteen starters to get through a season. 244 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: So having that organizational starting pitching depth is just too 245 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: important to mess with these guys in any way. I 246 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: see nothing wrong with having start the year in Triple A, 247 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: especially because they will be managing the innings this year, 248 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: and we see this around baseball. It will be relevant 249 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: to the Reds this year. If it doesn't want the job, 250 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: which he could, but you have him start in Triple A, 251 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: you have him do like three inning starts to manage 252 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: the innings, and then when you need him you get 253 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: you get the most you can't out of him in 254 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: the big leagues. 255 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Is there a player, and I feel like this is 256 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: a question always at spring training. Is there someone we've 257 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: not talked about enough that you think can have a 258 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: major role for this team this year. 259 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: The roster being set as much as it is, you know, 260 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: makes this a camp where that's less the case. I'd 261 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: also like to use the rest of my irrational Hyperboleague 262 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: points on salth Stewart, which I know is nothing new 263 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: for me because I've been high on him for a while. 264 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: But he's kind of the talking camp like, he looks 265 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: really good man and there's a chance that they just 266 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: build He's one of the guys they just build the 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: middle of this line up around some guys in the lead. 268 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: I'm a big Connor Phillips guy. I think he is 269 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: a chance to be a seventh thing piece. A prospect 270 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: who hasn't they do yet. Hector Rodriguez. This guy's just 271 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: a flat out hitter who has a chance in the 272 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: summer to come up and impact this lineup. A real sleeper. 273 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: Michael Tolia, a guy who's legitimately good in twenty four, 274 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 2: a young recent first round pick, could be the kind 275 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: of depth guy who could get hot, who's a nice 276 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: guy to have in the mix. Aside from that, I 277 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,119 Speaker 2: would say those are the first and Williamson absolutely, Williamson, 278 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: who he just talked about. Williamson would be my number 279 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: one answer to this question. Those are guys that stand out. 280 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Has anything surprised you since you've been out there. 281 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: From a baseball perspective, will kind of not there yet 282 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: just in terms of guys don't look good or look 283 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: bad or look at anything yet, just in terms of how 284 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: they look, there hasn't been in a huge like aside 285 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: from South Stewart, Oh, this guy's made these huge changes 286 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: physically or mechanically. It hasn't been that type of can't 287 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: play yet. 288 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: Can you confirm you've not seen any arrival of Nick 289 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: Castianos to Red Spring Training. 290 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: I like Nick a lot. I had a great conversation 291 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: with Nick in Philly last and I know Nick had 292 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: a great conversation with Dick Crawl and Philly last year. 293 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: But I don't see I don't see that happening at all. 294 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: Fair enough, you mentioned a little bit before when talking 295 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: to Chase Burns, Chase Brown, Chase Brown, DJ Turner, Dax Hill, 296 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: those types of names we've talked about a lot for 297 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals as perhaps getting deals done early in this offseason. 298 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: Do you think that this organization is any closer to 299 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: any of those guys getting the deal done? 300 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm really glad you asked that, and 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to answer this question in a completely different way. 302 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: We've talked about those guys, We will talk about those guys, 303 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: will continue to talk about those guys. The guy who's 304 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: in the exact same position that hasn't gotten nearly enough 305 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: attention is Tyler Stevenson. Tyler Stevenson's the first Red position 306 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: player to enter a contract year since twenty seventeen, and 307 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: the first player at all, sorry, their first homegrown guy 308 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: on his rookie contract, and the first player at all 309 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. And I've talked to Tyler about 310 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: this and he was really open about this in a 311 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: way that you don't get as much in football. He's 312 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: talked with his life about just having enjoyed this year 313 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: because this could be in Cincinnati. The Reds talked with 314 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Stevenson about an extension last spring. It didn't get done. 315 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: Stephenson was coming off a very good twenty twenty four season. 316 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: You typically see talks play out during the spring, but 317 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: those haven't started yet and there is no prospect in 318 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: the next two or three years. Alfredo do No's down 319 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: the road who looks like an even average or below 320 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: average starting catcher at all. So Stevenson entering this contract 321 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: year is feekly a huge organizational story in the exact, exact, 322 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: exact same way that Chase Brown, DJ Turner and Dak Hillar. 323 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: So whateveryone should do is the Reds you should get 324 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: Stevenson done and Bengals should just get all those contracts come. 325 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: To the news. I guess becoming official last night that 326 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: Phil Castellini is taken over in the lead role. I 327 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: know this was something that was put in motion towards 328 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five, 329 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Do you think that plays a 330 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: role in the Stevenson thing? Do you think there will 331 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: be any changes that Red's fans will notice with Phil 332 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: at the helm? 333 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: This is a very complicated situation. Nick Krawl still reports 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: to both Bob and Phil, so it's not like Phil 335 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: has become the guy and today talking about Phil mostly 336 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: being focused on the business side. The sport technically was 337 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: that Phil was approved to succeed Bob. There has been 338 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: little information and clarity coming from ownership. I requested to 339 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: talk to ownership last week about a number of things 340 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: that was declined. The statement we got from the Reds 341 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: yesterday was from the Reds, not from Bob or Phil directly. 342 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: And then Nick Crawl, who's the president of Baseball Operations 343 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: but isn't the owner, is the one who took questions 344 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: about it today. So Bob will be out here in 345 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: the next week. I don't expect we hear from him, 346 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: and until we do, there's still a lot a lot 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: of clarity on what's really going on here. 348 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit, Charlie about the players 349 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: that will be leaving for the World Baseball Classic. Does 350 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: their spring training look any different or did they just 351 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: partake in what the normal spring training is up until 352 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: when they need to leave it. 353 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: Then they head out. 354 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: We'll do a little more like Gino is out here 355 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: getting live at bat before some other guys. Edwin Arroyo 356 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: is the other guy in that camp. But the story 357 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: there is that the Reds aren't really going to be 358 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: impacted by specifically when you compare them to a lot 359 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: of other teams, like the fact that Gino is mostly 360 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: going to be a DH means that theret can do 361 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: all their defensive installs. They don't call it that, but 362 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: I'll call that Terry Frankcona talked about three years in 363 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: Cleveland where you know he didn't have Lindora, Santana or Ramirez, 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: so he couldn't do first at third place for a month. 365 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: So why do you do them without any of your infielders. 366 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: So and then Arroyo is just a prospect who won't 367 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: make the team or expected to make the team. So 368 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: the Reds are in a good stock from a WBBC perspective. 369 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: Lastly, Charlie, before I'll let you go, the impact not 370 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: just on the field, but talking briefly about the impact 371 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: that Suarez will have in the clubhouse for this Reds team. 372 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: I talked yesterday with two of his former managers, To Lavello, 373 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: who had him in Arizona, and Dan Wilson, who had 374 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: him in Seattle, And what was so unique to me 375 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: was kind of how different those teams were. 376 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: Seattle, they had Julio, they had cal Ralely Arizona. Gino 377 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: was their most experienced and veteran position player. Tory Lavello 378 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: talked about how often the room would get quiet when 379 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: Gino spoke up at the perfect moment and he said, 380 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: we need to do this now. And Dan Wolfson talked 381 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: about just the way he uplifted everybody with the energy 382 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: and the pregnance from the personality and the character, and 383 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: then how when Gino was struggling during the second half 384 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: of last season, he responded and stayed himself and got 385 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: rewarded for that with such a huge moment in the playoffs. 386 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: So we all know Geno is a unique guy. We 387 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: all know he fits this team really well. And there's 388 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: some examples and some good stories of kind of what 389 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: he brings now or in both ways. And he's also 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: kind of like the guy, like Elie's the guy, of course, 391 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: but in a different way, like Gino's kind of have 392 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: the center for the reds of what's all going on here. 393 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith, you're the man out there in Arizona. What 394 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: do you got for listeners to follow along with everything 395 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: you have coming up here during spring training? 396 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: Let me tell you one more thing, and I'm saying 397 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: this right now. This is interesting, This is new. It 398 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: looks like Ellie's about to get some extra agility running 399 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: progression type stuff, maybe a different aspect of his routine 400 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: coming off the quad last year, not connected to the injury, 401 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: But you know, continuing to build, continuing to make that star. 402 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: I'm just seeing that right now. That's very interesting to me. 403 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: To make sure he's an even stronger runner and athlete 404 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: than he was last year. That's that's fascinating. And I'm 405 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: seeing this right now take place. So stuff like that 406 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: all at Charlie chalkboard. 407 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: All right, go chase him down, Charlie, Charlie, thank you. Hey, guys, 408 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: that's Charlie Goldsmith. 409 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: Normally your talkbacks, next talkbacks come up to start of 410 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: our number three. Tom Gallaird will actually join us Tom 411 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 3: next the Talk FC Cincinnati on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 412 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: Sports Station. 413 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: Now, welcome back, Wow your Dreams. 414 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: It's Sincy three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 415 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: And there was a moment today Austin, we didn't know 416 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: if this was gonna happen. Yeah, we said it was 417 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: at the top of the show, and then for a 418 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: moment there was reason for concern. But we've made it 419 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: work today and we get the welcome back edition of 420 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: talking to our good friend from FC Cincinnati, the voice 421 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: of the Orangine Blue. Tom Gallaird are joining us right now, Tommy, Tommy, 422 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: Tommy what's up. 423 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: Tony, Tony, Tony, what good, my man? 424 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: We are back. 425 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: Ready to kick off the twenty twenty six season. I 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: know there was some confusion today. I appreciate the flexibility. 427 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: We have a lot of people who plan to catch 428 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: me right at two o'clock. 429 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: Right. 430 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 6: They had to tune in a little bit early today 431 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: to get this FC Cincinnati update. But we made it 432 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 6: all work. I appreciate you guys. Man, it's good to 433 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 6: hear your voyes. 434 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: We're here and we're actually now eight days away from 435 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: the home opener, if you can believe it against Atlanta United. 436 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: Let's try to get caught up. Though. 437 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 3: We talked yesterday on the show, this team's got new 438 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: kids this year, marking the seven Hills in Cincinnati. Outside 439 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 3: of the new kids, Tommy, what has happened? What is 440 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: different from the last time we spoke about this roster 441 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: to right now? 442 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit of turnover, maybe some new ideas. 443 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 6: The one change on the coaching staff, Dom kaneer out 444 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 6: and a new broad body brought on to add a 445 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 6: new face into the coaching staff for Pat newonan NFC Cincinnati. 446 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 6: You know Brenner's not back at the end of the 447 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: season when we recapted it, he left everybody with this 448 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 6: great feeling and everybody wanting more of Brenner up there 449 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: with Dan Kang and Evander. But the way that the 450 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: roster construction works, it wasn't it wasn't to be. He 451 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 6: would have had to be in a DP spot and 452 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 6: simply they don't have one available. So Brenner is out, 453 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 6: and I think there's a lot of questions who steps 454 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 6: in and. 455 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Fills that role. 456 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 6: We saw Tom Barlow come in. He scored actually yesterday 457 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 6: against Houston in the final you know, regular season tune up, 458 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 6: and I don't know that Tom Barlow is gonna be 459 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 6: a regular starter. I think we'll see a lot of 460 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: Ayu Jabari, who we saw a bit of at the 461 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 6: end of the season and I'm excited to. 462 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: See more of. 463 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: But for the most part, most of the regular pieces 464 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 6: are back. Luca Orshano we now know has been sold 465 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 6: to Monterrey, so he is out, and Brian Ramirez, another 466 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 6: South American left wing back in and he thinks he 467 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: has done pretty well bringing in guys to South America 468 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: to play at that position. So I think that the 469 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 6: right pieces are in place to start the season. And 470 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 6: that Chris albrighton his staff will continue to examine the 471 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 6: situation and see when is the right moment to press 472 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 6: the button to bring in additional bodies. But right now 473 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: I think that they have a team I will compete 474 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 6: with the best in the Eastern Conference. 475 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: I think that's unique at the At this time last year, 476 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: we were talking about all these new pieces coming together, 477 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: and then the season started. In the way the schedule 478 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: shaped up, there was no time in between matches to 479 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: really get work done. So how different will that be 480 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: for this team to get off to a fast start 481 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 3: knowing that you're not trying to incorporate as many new 482 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: bodies with how hectic the start of the. 483 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: Season can be tony. 484 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 6: Everybody I've talked to over the last month or so 485 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 6: since the team reported what was it January ten to eleventh, 486 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 6: twelfth that weekend, the one word that they've used is continuity, 487 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 6: Because you're right, last year there was distractions and there 488 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 6: was a lack of continuity. Lucho Acosta was not in 489 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: the group, obviously ended up being traded to Dallas. You 490 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 6: had Luca Orson or port late, you had ju Yeah 491 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: Kuba or port late after a holdout and then Evander 492 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: comes in literally days I mean before that first match 493 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: in Hondoras in the Concap Champions Cup, so he didn't 494 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 6: get a preseason with the team. Now he gets a 495 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 6: full preseason with the team, gets a full preseason with 496 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 6: his striker Kevin Dente, and with the other new pieces 497 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 6: and the new faces that are there. So I think 498 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 6: that continuity piece is going to be really big for 499 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: this team, especially a team that's gonna play a lot 500 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 6: of games here potentially of the season, so a lot 501 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 6: of different faces are going to get out there. 502 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: And I know they've used. 503 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 6: These preseason games to work on different rotations, to look 504 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: at different tactics, and to see who fits together well 505 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: on the pitch. So I think that continuity is going 506 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 6: to pay some early dividends for this club. 507 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: This club is picked right now going into the season 508 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: with the six best odds to win the MLS Cup. 509 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: You mentioned that the conference itself, when you look at 510 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, they're right there, picked third from the 511 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: betting standpoint, So as you mentioned, it's not like this 512 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: is a team picked in the middle of the Packet's 513 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: a team that is projected to be in the hunt. 514 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: And I would imagine that's means you're going to get 515 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: a lot of other team's best shot knowing that. 516 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And that's been the case since twenty twenty 517 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 6: two when Newton came in. It took this team to 518 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 6: the playoffs for the first time, and then twenty twenty 519 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 6: three you win the supporter Shilp for the first time, 520 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 6: and then you have a target the size of the 521 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 6: moon every night, and people know that TQL Stadium is 522 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 6: a tough place to come play, so it's a challenge 523 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 6: and you got to come in and be ready every night. 524 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: This team's done very well on the road historically under 525 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: pattent In, and I assume that that will continue this year. 526 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 6: And if you can really regain that fortress mentality and 527 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 6: that fortress situation over TQL Stadium, then I think you're 528 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 6: in a really good spot for this season. Now, the 529 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 6: Eastern Conference, I think it's going to be very difficult. 530 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 6: You have Miami defending MLS Cup champions. All they've done 531 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 6: is reload. I mean, I don't I don't think so, 532 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: But why doubt David Beckham, you know, and and Orge 533 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 6: Moss and those guys in the way that they constructed 534 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: their team. 535 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: But yeah. 536 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 6: I mean they may have more talent top to bottom 537 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 6: now than they did when they want MLS Cup back 538 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 6: in December. So you know, they're going to be the 539 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 6: favorites obviously in the Eastern Conference, with Cincinnati's going to 540 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 6: be their challenging them. Philadelphia is going to be their 541 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: challenging them. You know, come on to the course, we'll 542 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 6: be in that conversation again. I'll be it with a 543 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: new manager for the first time in years, and I'm 544 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 6: interested to see how that goes and how the crew 545 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 6: look with new leadership. So I think that there's a 546 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 6: lot of factors in the Eastern Conference. But I think 547 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: if if anybody, you know, I saw somebody and I 548 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 6: don't even know who it was, you know, social media 549 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 6: will dump all types of nonsense on your feet and 550 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 6: somebody who picked et since how. 551 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: You finished tenth? 552 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 6: And I don't see that any world in which that's 553 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 6: the case. But they're gonna have to fight to be 554 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 6: in that top four in the Eastern Conference. I think 555 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 6: the other teams are improved. Nashville one of the teams, 556 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 6: you know that that kind of lingered around and proved 557 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 6: to be a formidable opponent. So I think that MLS 558 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 6: is gonna have a really good season with a lot 559 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 6: of really good teams. But I also believe that C 560 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: Cincinnati is one of those really good teams. 561 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: Talk about the start of the season, because you got 562 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: the home opener, you got MLS play, and then sandwiched 563 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: around now you got concuer calf that's still happening as well. 564 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: So talk about first of the Conka kan How does 565 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: that work to start the year. I know we've talked 566 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: about this before, but for those not familiar, how does 567 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: that work on top of the already scheduled MLS matches. 568 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's crazy because some of the MLS team's already 569 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 6: played their Champions Cup matches in the past couple of 570 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 6: weeks and now they're sitting waiting for the home opener Ceaconcinnati. 571 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 6: Every year, though, has had their Champions Cup matches sandwich 572 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 6: around their home opener or their season opener. So this 573 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 6: year they get to go to Dominican Republic next. 574 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: Week Wednesday night. 575 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 6: That'll be their season opener, take on a Club O 576 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 6: and MFC out of the Dominican Republic. So they're one 577 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 6: of those qualifiers from the Caribbean and it's a two 578 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 6: leg competition. So they'll play It's coming Wednesday down in 579 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 6: Dominican Republic and then they'll come back to Tquel Stadium 580 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 6: on the other side of the home opener on that 581 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 6: Wednesday and welcome O and m to the Queen City. 582 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 6: Now that's an aggregate score. You look at it, Cincinnati advances. 583 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: And they should. 584 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 6: Then they would likely play Tea Grace as they moved 585 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 6: through the competition, and that means the same team they 586 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: played in the second round last year when they went 587 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 6: back to Monterey, and it would be a third year 588 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: in a row going to Monterrey for the second round. 589 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 6: They took Don Rayados two years ago, and then they 590 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 6: would they would like face Tea Grace here in the 591 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 6: second round. So it's it's an intercontinental competition, so you're 592 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 6: taking the best from North America, from Central America and 593 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 6: the Caribbean and whittling it down to a champion. Miami 594 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 6: get to buy because they won an US Cup. And 595 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 6: Dave Beckham, I think you know, before the Champagne had 596 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 6: even dried on his clothes after the game, was saying 597 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: how that he wants to win that competition, and that's 598 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: how his goaling out that he has MS Cup. He 599 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 6: wants to win Champions Cup moving on to twenty twenty six, 600 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: so MLS teams certainly are going to fight for it. 601 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 6: Seattle was the first team to win the modern day 602 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: version of it a couple of years back, and Cincinnati absolutely. 603 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 6: You don't want to win trophies and this is the 604 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 6: first opportunity to win one this year. 605 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: Let me finish with this, because every year, at the 606 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: start of the year, you kind of set expectations, and 607 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: I know every team that gets together they set goals, 608 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: and for FC Cincinnati and and for how the schedule 609 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: shapes up, there are multiple things that you want to 610 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: kind of check off the box as you enter into 611 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: a season. But talk to me about where you're setting 612 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: those sites for FC Cincinnati, things that you want or 613 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: expect them to kind of check off the box this 614 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: year from an expectation standpoint, Yeah. 615 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 6: I think it starts stony with the goal scoring and 616 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 6: the attack for a C Cincinnati. That's where I think 617 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 6: a lot of people have had concerns over the last 618 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 6: year or two. I felt like, listen, if there's another 619 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 6: goal or two, then a lot of those draws, a 620 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 6: lot of those losses, you know, flip to more point 621 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 6: gaining situations. Maybe you're winning a supportership, then you're in 622 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 6: a better situation in the playoffs, you know, much like 623 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 6: we saw in twenty twenty three. So I think that 624 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 6: early on a lot of people will be watching that 625 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 6: to see what the offensive production looks like. I think 626 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: the defense is going to be very strong again. You 627 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 6: have your your now fifty year goalkeeper in Roman cell 628 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 6: and Tunnel. You have a guy who I expect to 629 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 6: be on the US men's national team World Cup squad 630 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 6: come this summer, and Miles Robinson anchoring the back line 631 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 6: in front of him, to anginab is back, Nick Haglan 632 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 6: his back, Alberta Flores's back, Matt me alas Good is 633 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 6: working his way back from injury, to hood Bey in 634 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 6: the mix, and sometimes I think that that piece of 635 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 6: the puzzle is very strong. And your defensive midfielders are 636 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: very good with Albino Woboedo and forbel Buca and Sammy 637 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 6: Gide who came on nduring the summer window last year. 638 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: So I expected the defense to be very good again 639 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: and a lot of attention to be put on the attack. 640 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 6: And if the attack is as good as I think 641 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 6: they're capable of being. Then you're gonna win a out 642 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 6: Yangs and you're gonna put yourself in a situation to 643 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 6: win the Eastern Conference, go to win the Supportership and 644 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 6: all right, there's no trophy if you win the supporter Shield. 645 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: But the ultimate bowl was MLS Cup, and that's the 646 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 6: standard now brus City Cincinnati. 647 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: It's not okay to get to. 648 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: The playoffs as it was when Pat Ninnen was making 649 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 6: his debut as head coach. You know what a now 650 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 6: four years ago, it's win MLS Cup. So the playoffs 651 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 6: are this standard and winning MLS Cup is the expectation 652 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: in Cincinnati, unfortunately has fallen short in their four straight years, 653 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 6: and going to the playoffs of that ultimate goal, with 654 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 6: the closest to it coming in twenty twenty three. So 655 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 6: I think that that's. 656 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: The ultimate goal. 657 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: And then around that you're gonna try to win Champions Cup. 658 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: And if you make it through these first couple of rounds, 659 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 6: then you're gonna see, you know, more attention and focus 660 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 6: on those competitions. And of course we'll have Leagues Cup 661 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 6: in August and that format is going to be you know, 662 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 6: tweaked again a little bit this year and then you 663 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: have a chance to win a supporter Shield. So there's 664 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: four trophies out there. Ever since then he wants to 665 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 6: win them all. But I think for all these teams, 666 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 6: the ultimate goal is that US Cup. 667 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: For you personally, Tommy, not only are you getting ready 668 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: to go into a year number eleven with FCS Cincinnati 669 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: as we're watching along with the Olympics and USA Hockey, 670 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: I see Fourth Floor Creative has a hand in what's 671 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: going on with. 672 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: USA Hockey as well. 673 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: So I know it's a busy time for you, but 674 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: also an exciting time with Fourth Floor and with going 675 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: into year eleven. I can't imagine your excitement going into 676 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: another season. 677 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm thrilled. Yeah to the Olympics. I mean, 678 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 6: I think everybody's enjoyed watching the Olympics, but especially I 679 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 6: would say our crew. Every time the US Sport let 680 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 6: the women go at three o'clock today, so every time 681 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 6: that they score, we're watching for the social media graphics 682 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 6: that we created going out of Media and all those channels. 683 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 6: So that's been a lot of. 684 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: Fun, Tommy. I know it's a busy time. 685 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: I know a lot leading up into the season, we 686 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: can't thank you enough and look forward to getting to 687 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: talk to you a lot more. 688 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I appreciate you guys with the flexibility today 689 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: and let's keep it wrong. Talk to you next Friday. 690 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: There we go, Tommy, that's Tom Gallader, the voice of 691 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: the See Cincinnati Tommy G on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 692 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: Sports Station. Remember your talkbacks. We'll get started at the 693 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: top of our number three. We've got plenty more to 694 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: go between now and then we'll open up the phone 695 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 3: lines as well. Five to one, three, seven, four, nine, 696 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty More to come, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 697 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: There is an affordability crisis. 698 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 3: Welcome back Sincy three sixth the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 699 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: Sports Station. As we roll along, talkbacks at the top 700 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: of our number three, and just a few moments, what 701 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: else do we have going on? 702 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: Austin. First of all, this made me think, can you whistle? 703 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: I can't really Nope, no whistling. I can't whistle well, 704 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: but I can whistle you whistle well? Well, I can't 705 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: say how much whistle could whistle? Well? If will could 706 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: whistle well, how much wood could would chuck chuck of 707 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: whisow could Chuck wood yep, Mark Finesand and Mark Sheldon 708 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: are reporting that the Reds have made a signing. The 709 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: Reds have signed left handed hitting first baseman Nathaniel Low. 710 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Low formerly with the Washington Nationals and Texas Rangers 711 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: or with the Tampa Bay Rays, if you'll excuse me, 712 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: low last year hit eighteen homers, batted just two twenty eight, 713 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: had a three to zero seven on base percentage, and 714 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: uh did that in five hundred and forty at bats. 715 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: Not great against left handed pitching. Ninety four games last year, 716 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: in which he had one hundred and fifty five at 717 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: bats against left handed pitchers, he hit just one sixty 718 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: eight with two homers. But against right handed pitchers, Nathaniel 719 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: Lowe hit sixteen homers, hit two fifty two, had seventy 720 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: four runs batted in in three hundred and eighty five 721 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: at bats against right handers. For Nathaniel Low, it is 722 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: he was a twenty twenty three World Series champion with 723 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers. He's won a Gold Glove, He's won 724 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: a Silver Slugger. It is important to note Nathaniel Low 725 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: not a roster It's a non roster deal. Okay for 726 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Low. He's played with the Rays, Rangers Nationals, finished 727 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: last year the last month of last season with the 728 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: Red Sox on a tear. Hit really really well in 729 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: the final month of the season. So he is an 730 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: option now for the Reds. And additionally, Chris Paul was 731 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: traded to the Toronto Raptors. As you know, he's been 732 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: waived by the Raptors and Chris Paul has officially announced 733 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: his retirement from the NBA. It is that means I 734 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: can go dig up all of my old Chris Paul 735 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: rookie cards and put them on he good. Good. 736 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: While you start that process, we'll grab a phone call 737 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: and then a break. 738 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: What's up Mike, Mike? Maybe we'll talk to Mike another time. 739 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: We got nothing from Mike right now. What we do 740 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 3: have is a quick break. We'll come back, we'll finish 741 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: up hour two. We'll get to talk back to kick 742 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 3: off the third and final hour of the Friday edition 743 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: of Cinty three to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 744 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 7: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Gararan teed Human ESPN 745 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 7: fifteen thirty I Heard Radio from the bron Heating temp 746 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 7: Star Weather Center. 747 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Here's your forecast. 748 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 7: As we moved through the afternoon, temperatures will climb to 749 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 7: the upper forties, right around that fifty degree mark with 750 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 7: mostly sunny skies. Temperatures tonight dip down to around thirty. 751 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 7: We hit the low fifties tomorrow with increasing clouds through 752 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 7: the afternoon, rain overnight into your Sunday. That's your nine 753 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 7: first morning forecast time Meteorologist Cameron Harden. 754 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by Mel's Auto Glass. Mel's Auto Glasses. 755 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 3: Welcome back Cincy three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 756 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 3: Sports Station. While we have them in at Austin, can 757 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: we can we take a moment to salute someone here locally? 758 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: You sure? Can? 759 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: You know? 760 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: iHeartMedia and us here on ESPN fifteen thirty, we salute 761 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's own Proctor and Gamble, and today we would like 762 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 3: to recognize who Austin. 763 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: We'd like to recognize our friend Molly Norman. A right, 764 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: Molly over at P ANDNG. Now, Molly is She's a 765 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: big deal over there at P ANDNG. And I know 766 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: she has a lot on her plate, certainly working with 767 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: some of her her coworkers I've heard about. 768 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: You know. 769 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name any names over there, ye, 770 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: but shout out to Molly Lways doing a great job 771 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: over at P and G. Shout out to Cincinnati's own 772 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: Proctor and Gamble yesterday, Molly, because making you make it 773 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: better for all of us. You do, Molly and P 774 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: and G. Does I think yesterday was P and G Day? Wow, 775 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: you got the United States of America. You got your 776 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: own day. You're a big deal. Wouldn't be possible without 777 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: people like Molly Norman. Molly Norman. Shout out to you, Molly, 778 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,479 Speaker 1: have a great weekend, long weekend. You know her last name, 779 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: Molly Norman. Yes, what's the last name? Oklahoma? Oh, it 780 00:38:59,680 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: was good. 781 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: That's a good one. Thanks, that's a good one. I 782 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: used to live in Lake Norman in Charlotte, North Carolina. 783 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: Man, simpler times back then, I'll tell you what simpler 784 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: Happy pockets were getting heavy back gets were good back then. 785 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: What was that like for you? Like you know, we 786 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: all have experiences of when we look in the checking 787 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: account and payday. Today was payday. I know that you 788 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: you got paid today and you were filled filled with 789 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: joy when you saw that deposits. What was it like 790 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: when you got Now I know you didn't make No, 791 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: I didn't. I know you didn't make first round money 792 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is not something I don't think 793 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: we've ever talked about, but like when you get that 794 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: first NFL paycheck? What was that like? 795 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: It's not even about I think the enjoyment of it. 796 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: It's about the tax aspect of it. Like to me, 797 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: that was the shock. Yeah, just how much comes out? Yeah, 798 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 3: because in your mind you're like, all right, this is 799 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: my contract, so if you break it down, this is 800 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 3: what it'll be, and it's just such a smaller number 801 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: than you expected. You're like, wait a second, where'd that 802 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: money go? 803 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: That's funny. I miss the first one is always the 804 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: worst one, right, Yep, Yeah, I missed. I missed the 805 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: I missed the lake. You know, knowing what I know, now, 806 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: why don't you just go? Knowing what I know and 807 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: how things have been, try I'm gonna tried to keep 808 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: that baby and just like rented out like airbnb it 809 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: that just wasn't a thing back then because I I 810 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: literally it was a steal. I walked into a deal 811 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: on the water where the rent was cheaper than it 812 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: would have been anywhere near the stadium, and so that 813 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: was that was awesome, and I just like being on 814 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: the water or around the water. But man, it was. 815 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 3: Knowing then what I know now, I would still I 816 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: would try to own the place instead of just rent it. 817 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: Now, if I'm not mistaken his airness himself, Michael Jeffrey Jordan, 818 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: he's got a place on it. Lives on Lake Norman. 819 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 820 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: If you guys want any indication of the type of 821 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: tax bracket Tony was in, well, there's a different part 822 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: of Lake Norman. There's an apartment complex that I stayed in, 823 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: and then there are houses like Jeff Gordon. Oh, Jeff 824 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: Gordon was down there. 825 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 3: A lot of the NASCAR guys live on Lake Norman. Interesting, 826 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan lives on Lake Norman. So there are different brackets. 827 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: But I lived. 828 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: I lived right across the highway from Davidson College, which 829 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: at the time I was down there, Steph Curry was 830 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: playing basketball. 831 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever run into stuff down there at the bars? 832 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: Not at the bars, but I went and watched a 833 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: couple of his games. Okay, so there's probably not a 834 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: ton of people outside of the Davison Lake dies Landing. Yep, 835 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: that could say, oh yeah, we went and saw Steph 836 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: play a couple of times in college. 837 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy because I moved in to the 838 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 3: place I stayed, which it was like it didn't really 839 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 3: matter because traffic made it bad. But I was I 840 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 3: was getting to the facility at six in the morning 841 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 3: and getting home later, so I never really. 842 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Hit about an hour after Jimmy. 843 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 3: Yes, easily an hour after Jimmy, but you never really 844 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 3: worried about traffic. But it's it's probably without traffic twenty 845 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: twenty five minutes from the stadium, which is crazy because 846 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: when I moved in, there was a gentleman outside walking 847 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: his dog that had a Carolina Panthers pike jersey. You're lying, 848 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 3: I swear, And it's probably the only one I ever 849 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: saw at the stadium and it just so happened to 850 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 3: be a guy that lived in the same apartment complex. 851 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to him? Yes, he became good 852 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: friends down So what was the story? How did he 853 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: get the jersey? He was just is he since. 854 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: He well he is a He was from Kentucky, huge 855 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: Kentucky basketball fan, and I think, being so local, watched 856 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: a lot of Cincinnati games. 857 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: He said. 858 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 3: When they drafted you, I was super excited, and the 859 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: first thing I did was by your jersey. Wow, And 860 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 3: I just happened to move in next to the guy. 861 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: That's a pretty cool feeling. 862 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But at the time you thought, man, if 863 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: he's got one, I can't imagine how many other folks 864 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 3: of the LC. 865 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 1: Over I, uh, wow, that's a that's a great story. 866 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. 867 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 3: You just didn't seem many after that. 868 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you ever told that story. That's cool. 869 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: It was, it was cool, you know. It's kind of 870 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: like I was trying to tell Luke Colmes. I got 871 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of Tony Pike rookie card autography. 872 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: And Luke never say anything back, never heard from Maybe 873 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: it's a good time to double dip on him. 874 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: I think he's busy at the moment. Didn't he release 875 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: an album today? Oh? If he did, I didn't know 876 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: it would be my listening enjoyment later. It has a 877 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: place on Lake Norman. If I had to guess he 878 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: might be over there by. Did you say Jeff Gordon, 879 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: the NASCAR driver? A lot of NASCAR folks that I 880 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: was raised to despise Jeff Gordon, it was. 881 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: It was so weird in that light, Like you would 882 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 3: see NASCAR guys around Lake normant like bars and restaurants, 883 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 3: and they were treated like normal folks. And most of them, 884 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 3: it's not a shot at them, most of them. If 885 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: you didn't know what you would have never guessed. I 886 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: oh that's a NASCAR driver, sure, Like they're just they're smaller, 887 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 3: they don't really look you know, and portray athlete. 888 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: But a lot of them from that area. Yes, yeah, yes, interesting. 889 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: Quick update for the first time ever Austin, the US 890 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 3: women curling team have just beaten Canada at the Olympics. 891 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: It's it's a tough time to beat Canada right now. 892 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: It is. I mean, you're getting it's built to ask 893 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: from the United States repeatedly. Yep. There is a two 894 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: way tie at the top of the total medal count. 895 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: Canadian gear is sick, though, he says it is Norway 896 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: lose crashing in the stock. 897 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 3: Mart Norway and Italy eighteen total medals, USA and third 898 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: with fourteen total medals entering today's Olympic play. We'll take 899 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: a break. When we come back. We'll kick off our 900 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: three a little bit differently. On this Friday, it'll be 901 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: your talkbacks next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN 902 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 903 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: Run a business and not thinking about podcast