1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 1: Petros Papadekas. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Sweet James Accident Attorneys forty. If 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: you're hurt in an accident, called Sweet James right away 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: at eight hundred, five hundred and fifty two hundred. Sweet 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: James will be sweet to you, but tough on insurance 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: companies that will bully you. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: I don't know. 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Now with Petros, Peer's Dave's softy Muller. Alrighty, boys and girls, 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: here we go on. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 4: A beautiful and I'm not really beautiful. It's pissing rain outside. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: It's a freaking monsoon. Baby here and see Atti, but 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: we are used to that. 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That's got to kind of make 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: you smile a little bit of their behavior. 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: Not really, I don't. I don't get that way about rivalries. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Like some people act like a jackass, alienate a whole 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: bunch of people. 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: Wow, I understand. Are you insinuating something, brother? 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: No? 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: Oh, go okay, But I do understand their frustration because 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: last year Notre Dame won four games in the College 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: Football Playoff, and I think it helped the college Football 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: Playoff in the annual year of having a bunch of games, 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: and they use their name all season long and their 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: reveal show and then flipped them when they hadn't played 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: a game. So I understand why they're upset, and then 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: the one bowl game they're supposed to go playing is 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: like the double circle with the frosting and the pop 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: Tarts and just the total ESPN. I mean, the only 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: things could be the Mayo Bowl, right if you dip 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman and Mayo Dukes, which I heard as a 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: little kick to it, But so I understand them saying, 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: look the part about it that bothers me, and I 52 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 3: don't feel bad for Notre Dame though it's probably out 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: of Amma that doesn't deserve to be in there. But 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: when the one thing I do want to point out 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: is when the playoff did expand, and it's probably going 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: to expand more very soon. But when the playoff did 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: expand and everybody was like, well, we're not going to 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: have the great argument we had about who's number three, 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: and what about who's going to care who's number thirteen, 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: it turns out a lot of people care, and making 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: the playoff is pretty much that or bust for a 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: lot of college football programs, including USC and Washington and 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: our respective towns. That being said, softy, I do find 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: it really annoying that ESPN owns the ACC, they own 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: the SEC, they own the playoff, right, and they own 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: like ninety five percent of the bowl games, and then 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: they have all these talking heads arguing about that they 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: put it on TV. They've created the whole problem. They're 69 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: making it up as they go along, and they're sitting 70 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: here and telling you while they're pissing in your face 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: that it's that it's raining stud That part of it 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: is is pretty wild, is that the TV companies are 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: behind this. And we use words like the ACC and 74 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: the SEC and the Big ten, but we're really just 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: talking about Fox and Disney. Yeah, and that's really the 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: bottom line. And I maybe the Notre Dame athletic director 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: has done one too many interviews or press conferences about this, 78 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: but Notre Dame feels like they have the biggest puzzo 79 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: and the pants of college football. And if they want, 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: if they don't want to, you know, it's like Dirk Diggler, 81 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: if they don't want to, they don't want to perform 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: that day for ESPN and playing their reindeer games. I 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: certainly I can totally understand it because they feel look 84 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: and no, her name is going to be independent as 85 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: long as somebody's willing to pay them. Big network TV 86 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: money to be an independent right, And how long has 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: that NBC deal been what is it thirty four years? Yeah, 88 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety one with Notre Dame, right right, right, 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: So it feels it feels like they have a pretty 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: good platform there and that they're going to be able 91 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: to do what they want. And the college football Playoffs 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: is going to expand anyway, so it's not likely that 93 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: we'll have this problem again. It is hilarious because it 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: just speaks to the instability of the sports and how 95 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: wacky it is. 96 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: I just can't get over the Dirt Giggler reference. 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: And you know what I mean. I want to aff 98 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: right now. 99 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 4: You know what I'm thinking about. 100 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: It's my big c and I want to have right now. 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 4: If Notre Dame is Dirt Diggler, who's playing the role 102 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: of the colonel? Oh, may I see it? That would 103 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: Robert rid remember Robert Ridsley. 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: Probably be NBC. 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: Okay, NBC wants to see it. 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Right, And Boston College is chest rockwell. 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: Oh god, unbelievable. Remember Phillip Seymour Hoffman in that Yeah, 108 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: he was he was fabulous when he tried to come 109 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: on to Marky Mark and he guys the car. 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: The guy that made that movie. He's got three names. 111 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: Paul Thomas Anderson. Is that the guy's name. He's really 112 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: close friends with our friend down here that works at KFI, 113 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: Tim Conway Junior, really and he put he put Tim 114 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: Conway in one of his more recent movies, Licorice Pizza, 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: which was pretty cool. Just remember, Paul Thomas Anderson, Did 116 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: I get it right? 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: There? 118 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: You go, Phillip Seymour Hoffman sitting in his car. 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: Stupid. Don't do that man. 120 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's uh, it's really kind of a it's disappointing 121 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: because it's supposed to be a wonderful time of the 122 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: year for college football and instead it's not right. A 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: lot of the whole season. 124 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: Has been that way, and the whole season when James 125 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: Franklin got the whole season got up in. 126 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: But what about these ball games now, because it's not 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: just Notre Dame. You know new Heiseel Rick new Heiseel, 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: who does a weekly hit with us courtesy at Taco Time. 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: He'll be on tomorrow. By the way, he's got a 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: pretty good idea. I think he was on the Dan 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: Patrick Show and I don't know, maybe he stole it 132 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: from you. 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: What was the idea, You got to hire my son 134 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: to be the coaching waiting at Wazoo. 135 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, Well the Cougar has already did that with 136 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: Dick and Tony Bennett back in the day. Worked out 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: pretty good for the Kubes. Went to the Sweet sixteen 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: with Klay Thompson and then he took off and went 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: to Virginia. But anyway, new Heidel's idea was, let's let's 140 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: play all these ball games because we have all these 141 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: like the Chick fil A Kickoff Classic in Atlanta to 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: start the year. Let's move all the ball games to 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: the start of the year week one, week zero, Yeah, right, whatever, 144 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: and we just get them all out of the way 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: there and then the only thing that matters come December 146 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: is the playoff. 147 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Well yeah, but then you're you're boxing out all the 148 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: small schools that like to play. 149 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: It's a reward for the previous season. 150 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: That's your attitude. 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: I would say, if you earn it the previous year, 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: then you get to go. 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: A few of the bulls are good previous year, as 154 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: if that means anything. 155 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: Now in college, it means a lot for the eight 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: people when they come out in. 157 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: Which is also stupid, Like why do you guys try 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: to make sense of this stuff? Like a lot of 159 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: the bulls will probably end up going away. The championship 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: games are going to end up going away, and the 161 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: playoff is going to expand, and they need more uniformity. 162 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: Having a smaller portal or one portal and making the 163 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: SEC play an extra conference game is not enough uniformity. 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: They need more. And it's the same thing I've been 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: telling you for years. The TV companies are going to 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: have to figure out how to get along to stabilize 167 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: the sport they need. That's really who's in charge and 168 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: governing body Petros. If they need a governing body, well, 169 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: that's another part of the committee is so stupid. And 170 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: if you're going to have a committee, you have to 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: have football people like Mike Riley and Chris Alt and 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: Ivan Mazell who's on there. That's fine. Those are the 173 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: type of people that need to be on the committee. 174 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: The second, with all due respect to athletic directors, the 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: second it becomes a bunch of athletic directors, which it is, 176 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: they're politicians, and politicians have no backbone. They flip with 177 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: public sentiment. They always have. That's politics. So when public 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 3: sentiment says, hey, how come you put Miami? How come 179 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: you put notre name in front of Miami all this 180 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 3: time when they played each other, they're like, oh my god, 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: you're right. That's there's no backbone there. So there doesn't 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: need to be administrators or politicians on this committee. If 183 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: there's going to be a committee, there needs to be 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: football people that have a backbone, that stick to their 185 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: story throughout the year unless something dramatic happens. Just get 186 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: rid of the reveal show, which is just a big 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: ESPN mutual session. That's all this is. So much of 188 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: this is just that, Oh god, and yet we are 189 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: all forced to argue about it and act like any 190 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: of this stuff is legitimate, and act like everybody's not 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: making it up as they go along. 192 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: I think we should podcast the unedited version of this conversation. 193 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: I haven't said anything that needs to be edited. People 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: will listen, they will flock. I haven't said anything that 195 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: needs to be edited. You said I can say that. 196 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: You can't say that on the air. 197 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Yes you can't. No, you can't can't do it. 198 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: Day me talk to my boss man. You know what's 199 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: even dumber by the way about all this Notre Dame 200 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: talk that we're talking about Petros Petros courtesy is Sweet 201 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: James dot com. How about the fact that you Dub's 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: going to play in a ballgame on Saturday night and 203 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: they had six days the fans said, six days to 204 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: get ready for a stupid ballgame on Saturday against Boise State. 205 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: We're going down for the La Bawl. It's so Fie 206 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: against the Mountain West Champs. I mean, who's gonna go. 207 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: Who's gonna go to a game? Travel to a game 208 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: when you got six days to get ready? 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: Come on? 210 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: Probably more people then we'll go to the UCLA games 211 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: and so far you think, yeah, probably, But it's obviously 212 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 3: not about attendants anymore, which was unfortunate. But it's about 213 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: the TV slot and ESPN's inventory. You wanted to say 214 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: something else, didn't you? No, leave me alone? I looked 215 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: at Kate's I was like, I can't say that. He 216 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: was like, well, you probably should. I was like, dude, 217 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: I hate everybody. 218 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: I'm with you, man, I get it. I just you know, 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: when you're when you're a slave to the man, then 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 4: you gotta you know whatever. But I don't know. I mean, 221 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: they just Husky fans. Just saw the Dogs against UCLA 222 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: at the Rose Bowl three weeks ago. I'm saying Husky 223 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: fans that live in southern California, right, So maybe a 224 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: few folks that. And they got a large fan base 225 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: down there. A lot of schools have a lot of 226 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: fans in LA. 227 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 3: But and so the. 228 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: Boiss I know, Yeah, they might have more people down 229 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: there than we will. 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: They have a lot of people down here too, And 231 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: that's an interesting football team. They got their quarterback back, imagine. Yeah, 232 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: and they're tough upfront on both sides. They really are. 233 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Boise without the Ashton genty thing, Boise is 234 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: still what they are, which is a team built at 235 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. So that's not an easy out. Yeah, 236 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: the Dogs better be motivated in that one or they're 237 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: going to get beat. 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: Well, they're given ten and a half, for God's sakes, 239 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: I'd take Poise in the points. 240 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: Where's the motivation, Well, there's. 241 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: I mean, this is not like Notre Dame or you 242 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: know another school that would be greatly disappointed to miss 243 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: the CFP. They have not been in the CFP for 244 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: three weeks. You're saying Washington's not motivated. 245 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. Every team's different, Every team had its 246 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: own personality, Every team reacts to the Bullpack practices differently. Yeah, 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: really hard to gauge what they're going to come out 248 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: and be like. Of course, teams are more veteran laden now, 249 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: but the transfer portal opening up and all the uncertainty 250 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: and instability doesn't help the bull practice part of it either. 251 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: Plus six days to get ready is not exactly a 252 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: plethora of time to wrap your head around Boise, and 253 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: they're very, very complex blitz packages under defensive coordinator coach Chinander, 254 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: So good luck to everybody involved. 255 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: Would you hire Rick new Heisel if you were Wazoo? 256 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: No? 257 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Why not? 258 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: I think I'd rather hire a Bob Chesney type. 259 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: Okay, like a Jason Ck kind of guy. Yeah, somebody 260 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: from Don't you think ek though could get a better 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: gig than Wazoo if he's leaving New Mexico? 262 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Is he? 263 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what he eventually does? I think he could. Yeah, 264 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: I think Jason Eck has done. If it wasn't for Indiana, 265 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: Jason Eck would be the most masterful coaching job in 266 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: the country this year. 267 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so why not new Heisel? At Wazoo. 268 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm just kid. I just think we've seen the whole 269 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: thing play itself out a few times already, haven't we. 270 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's like I said, I worked 271 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 4: in basketball for Wazoo with Dick and Tony Bennett. 272 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Dick and Tony Bennett are not Rick and 273 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: Jerry Neuheisel. How do you know that these are total 274 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: just because their father and son, it's a totally different sport. 275 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: They're two totally different people. Dick and Tony Bennett had 276 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: been coaching. I mean, Rix hasn't coached in a long time, 277 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, Well he wants the gig. Well, good 278 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: for him. I hope he gets it when I do it. 279 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: Did you hear about this thing with Utah that they 280 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: want to partner up with a private equity. 281 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: Everybody's looking to find a way to become the next 282 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: Texas Tech, find more money and blow everybody out of 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: the water with cash because you can do it. I mean, 284 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: that's the thing that makes the USC problem really egregious 285 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: is that you could say, well, one thing people don't 286 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: realize about Indiana is they have a lot of money. 287 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: And that is true. That is one thing That's why 288 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: they were able to pay Signetti when that Penn State 289 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: job opened up and extend him. But that's the one 290 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: thing about USC. USC has money, and that's the biggest problem. 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: They don't have an excuse to be this bad anymore. 292 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: And teams that have that much money, when you see 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: what some have done with the money and bringing the 294 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: right people in and having the right coach and ad 295 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: and president and all that. You look at Texas Tech 296 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: and their turnaround. Obviously Indiana, you look at a team 297 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: like USC or even Washington, you say, hey, let's get 298 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: a move on. What are you guys doing. You can 299 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: see that these people have the same resources as you 300 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: in this modern era and they're having success. What is 301 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: your problem? So that's one of the interesting things about Indiana. 302 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: And if you can turn New Mexico around, for God's sakes, 303 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: with have to. If you could turn Indian around with 304 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: a bunch of players from the Sun Belt and turn 305 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: football purgatory New Mexico into something with a bunch of 306 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: players from Idaho, what the hell is everybody else doing? 307 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: And I think that's a really good point that can 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: be made about this modern era. 309 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: Well, the Heisman vote is going to be announced on Saturday. Yeah, 310 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: do you have a vote, But oh no, you don't. No, No, 311 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: I don't. Do you want to think of a loser? 312 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Would you like a vote? 313 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: No? 314 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Not at this point. 315 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: Okay, who do you think should win? Should it be 316 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: the kid from Indiana, the former cal quarterback? 317 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, after he got his head knocked clean off and 318 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: then still led them to victory. That was amazing. On 319 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: the first player of the game or whatever it was. 320 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: I think it was the It was the first drive 321 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: for sure. 322 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I give it to Ferdy Mendoza. Although I did 323 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: see a great tweet about Diego Pavia. It said Diego 324 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: Pavia is what Axe Body Spray would be as a person, 325 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: and it felt curate. I like this mom tworking doing 326 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 3: the Heisman pose. Oh yeah, the drunk brother being escorted 327 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: out of every game. I just hope he's at the 328 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: ceremony on Saturday. They're like the new Honey Boo Boo family. 329 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: Oh God, it's exciting. I love it. 330 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: All right, Well, good stuff, appreciate this. We'll talk in 331 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: a week. Man, Curious to see you back to the wazoo. 332 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 4: Hopeful Rick new Heiseel and old blowhard Kevin Harlan, Am 333 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: I gonna see you on Saturday down in La. I'm 334 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: coming down Friday night for the game. Yeah yeah, shoot 335 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 4: me a text. You want to meet up? 336 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 337 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: Maybe? 338 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: Okay, see you man. 339 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: Sure me a text. I'll see. Let's see what's up shaking. 340 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: Are you gonna stay in the South Bay area? 341 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: We're staying in Torrents by the way. Oh my god, 342 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 4: well that's right by where I live. 343 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: I'll come over. I landed. I didn't say. 344 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: Banging the door. All right, Bud, we're talking a week 345 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll see you this weekend. 346 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: Maybe. All right, bring rashaan shehe and some weed. 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: All right, Petrust Paparaka is with us. We're gonna break. 348 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: Kevin Harlan joins it five. Coming up on ninety three 349 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: to three KJRFM from. 350 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back 351 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies, 352 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 353 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 5: three kJ R FM. 354 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: For the first time, I've lost for words my way. 355 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 3: Well I want to say, is this husky niceer? 356 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: We love you, We love you, okay, we appreciate all 357 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: that you do for us. Let's got that. 358 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 4: That was the night of December one, twenty twenty three 359 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, Nevada. That's a good night, JaMarcus Shepherd, 360 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: grinning from ear to ear as the Huskies took down 361 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: the mighty Oregon Ducks and found their way to the 362 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: College Football Playoff, where they would defeat the Texas Longhorns 363 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: before losing eventually in heartbreaking fashion to the Michigan Wolverines. 364 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: And that man, right there. 365 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: That really is only one reason, Dick, why I wanted 366 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: JaMarcus Shepherd to get the Oregon State coaching job so 367 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: he could come back on the radio show and say hello. 368 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: For God's sake, here he is the new coach of 369 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: the Oregon State Beavers. My friend, JaMarcus Shephard, coach? 370 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: How are you, softy? How are you doing? Brother? Good? 371 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: You so much for having me on today. Truly a 372 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: blessing to be on with you today. Man, I can't 373 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: tell you how much I appreciate you. 374 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: Brother. 375 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's great to have you back on the show. 376 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 4: I do got to ask you one quick question, though, 377 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 4: Have you signed your contract. 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: With the Beavers yet? 379 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: By the way, yes, okay, because the Michigan job, the 380 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: Michigan job just came open. Brother, I just want to 381 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: make sure. I want to make sure you're locked in 382 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: down there in Corvalace. Well, dude, first of all. 383 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I am all right, good. 384 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: Good, I love it. Well, congratulations on the gig man. 385 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: I know you've been wanting this for a long time obviously, 386 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 4: but tell us why this made sense for you. I mean, 387 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: you're coaching wide receivers at Alabama, obviously working with some 388 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: of the best talent in America, and you decided to 389 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: take the take the leap and move to Corvallis to 390 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: be the new coach of the Beavers. Why why did 391 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: this opportunity make sense to you? 392 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: Well, you know what getting into the coaching profession. For 393 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: a lot of other people, it may be because maybe 394 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: it was the it's the family business. You know, their 395 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: dad maybe you know, pull them in and say hey, 396 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: I want you to come coach the position, or some 397 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: others get into it because you know it's the xs 398 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: and those the scheme. They want to be able to 399 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: scheme plays up and have a chance to compete against 400 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: you know, really really elite talent and whatnot. You know, 401 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: And I really got into the profession for the opportunity 402 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: to really help young men grow in a way that 403 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: I was able to grow as a young man because 404 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: of the mentors that I had, So coming to Oregon 405 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: State University was was ideal. 406 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: H How did I know that was going to happen? 407 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't. 408 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: Will it is not John Wilder. But get him, get 409 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: him back on the fun and we'll get him back 410 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: on the year. We got to make sure the cell 411 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: phone signal works properly down there in Corvallis. It used 412 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: to work in the Pac twelve, the old PAC twelve, 413 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 4: but the new web Pac twelve we don't know. Hey, JaMarcus, 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 4: we got to get you a new cell phone deal 415 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: with your new contract. 416 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: By the way, all right. 417 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 2: This is the same one that I have when I 418 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: was in Seattle. 419 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: At all right, finish your. 420 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: Job for you. You're go ahead. 421 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: You know, as I was saying, you know what having 422 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: my goal is just to help young men, you know, 423 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: become the best versions of themselves. You know, all all 424 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 2: young people, include myself. You know, we all have a 425 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: little bit of brokenness inside of us. And uh, you know, 426 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: I just want people to see that you can have 427 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: this type of success that you want to have in 428 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: your life, regardless of that brokenness that you have. And 429 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: uh Oregon States specifically, you know, having coach over at Washington, 430 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: Washington State, know the Pacific Northwest, know that I'm going 431 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: to get some rain here and there. To me, it 432 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: was you know, going back, something's always keep calling me 433 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: back out at Western Kentucky and went to Washington State 434 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: and went back to Indiana and then came to Washington 435 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: and went to Alabama, then came back out here to 436 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: Oregon State. So something's calling me back and saying I 437 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: belong here in the p city of Northwest. 438 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: Well, Coach is great to talk to you again, as Dick. 439 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: Congratulations you're a high energy guy. 440 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 5: We know that. 441 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 6: Do you have to be a little more chill when 442 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: you're the CEO of a program or can you be 443 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: just as energetic, just as crazy as you were when 444 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 6: you're a position coaching coordinator. 445 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, It's funny, you guys always see 446 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: me that way in terms of when I'm out on 447 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: the field of play and then when I get on 448 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: some of these calls. But in my normal life, I'm 449 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: pretty calm and cool and collected and approach every obstacle 450 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: very methodically and ensure that I am very thoughtful in 451 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: how I do things in my life and my normal 452 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: life with my family, with our administration and so on. 453 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: But when you hit that grass, I mean, it's either 454 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: in you or it's not in the I mean, I 455 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: mean that's just how that is. Once you touch that grass, 456 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: either it's in you or it's not in you. You know. 457 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: I talked to one of my mentors, Jeff Broma day, 458 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: he said, could jeffer you or the master at being 459 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: having the most energy? You know? And guess what, you 460 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: better have somebody under stop to bring that kind of 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: energy every day when I'm gonna bring it to Okay, 462 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring that energy every day to our guys 463 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: because energy just tells them to have confidence. Yeah. 464 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: Well, JaMarcus Shepherd's with US former Husky wide receivers coach 465 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: who is now the head coach at Oregon State University, 466 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: and tell me if I'm wrong, but you're not going 467 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: to be calling plays down there? 468 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: Is that right? 469 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: No? I will not be calling plays. I have hired 470 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator and he's gonna call the plays for 471 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: this upcoming season. Yeah. 472 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: Mitch Dalen is that his name? 473 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: By the way. 474 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: I cannot confirm or deny that, but he should be 475 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: being released here shortly. 476 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: Okay, can you confirm or deny that Lance Gidry is 477 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: going to be your defensive coordinator from Western Kentucky days? 478 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: I cannot confirm with you that. 479 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: Well done, he's shart man. All right, Well, then let 480 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 4: me ask you what you haven't changed it all? By 481 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: the way, let me ask you a question that you 482 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 4: can answer, right, because this is a different deal now 483 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: with Oregon State. The PAC twelve is getting rebuilt, a 484 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: bunch of new teams are showing up, obviously. But you 485 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: gotta have money, man, you gotta have money to pay players. 486 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 4: I mean five years ago we would have been arrested 487 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 4: talking like that, right, But it's a different day and 488 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: age now in college football. So tell me what you 489 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: need to do and what you need to get done 490 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: down there to compete in the nil era in Corvallis. 491 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: Man, You know what, I think, it really starts with relationships. 492 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: I mean, this NIO era is still going to be 493 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: about relationships. It's going to be relationships with our donors. 494 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: You know, you have to have great relationships with them, 495 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: and genuine great relationships with them. So that's going to 496 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: aid in that process. But I think more importantly having 497 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: great relationships with, you know, the young men across the 498 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: country that you're going to be recruiting. And that's what 499 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: My whole career has been built on. Relationships with people, 500 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: and in some cases not all. I think when you 501 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 2: have a great relationship, you're able to get discounts, you know, 502 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: and people want to come play for you because guess what, Hey, 503 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: I want to play for him because he's about the 504 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: right things. You know, he is truly about my degree. 505 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: He really is truly about, you know, making sure that 506 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: I become a great man. Now, I didn't say we're 507 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: gonna get him for free, but you'll have a chance 508 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: to get some of these guys at discounts. I look 509 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: across the country and when I was at my previous place, 510 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: guess what, our relationships they wrung true and we even 511 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: were able to access some discounts on guys because we 512 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: had great relationships at Alabama. And so I think that's 513 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: going to be more important than ever hear in this 514 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: new PAC twelve. 515 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 6: Was it difficult coach to convince Oregon State to let 516 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 6: you coach at Alabama through the playoffs. 517 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: You know what, you know, those conversations weren't difficult. We 518 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: we had some uh you know, of course Alabama wanted 519 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: me to coach there, and and and and organ stations 520 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: wants me to be here, and so you know, we 521 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: we've kind of come to some conclusions on all that stuff, 522 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: and uh, hopefully we'll finalize all that here shortly. 523 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: I got you, well, uh, let's talk about the future 524 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: of your team. What is this team gonna look like 525 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: next year? How much work do you think really needs 526 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: to be done with this roster before you hit the 527 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 4: field in September against Houston. 528 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we have some really good 529 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: pieces on the roster right now. When I'm going through 530 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: the film looking through our our players, especially on the 531 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, I feel like we we 532 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: we got some guys who really can play at a 533 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 2: high level. It's just you know, some of them were 534 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: banged up, you know, had some injuries on the on 535 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: the team, and so it prevented them from really show case, 536 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: you know, the ability of the defense. And then on 537 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, I think we got some 538 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: skill position players that are gonna actually be able to 539 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: be really good players. For US. Okay, we got to 540 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: really up really the competition on this football team. We 541 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: got to push the competition level so everybody in the 542 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: building had no one should walk around here think that 543 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: they've completely solidified a starting position at any small team. 544 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: Everybody should have a mindset that they want to compete. Okay, 545 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: that's their job as players. It is to really go 546 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: out there, grind every day a right, refine what we 547 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: tell them to refine, and then compete, all right, And 548 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: our job is really to teach them, critique them, and 549 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: then we're going to demand that they do it even better. 550 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: So we're gonna have a football team that's gonna be 551 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: tough because I'm a tough guy and I want to 552 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: have our football team tough. 553 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, JaMarcus Sheppard with US again, former uwide receivers coach, 554 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: now the head coach at Oregon State. So you mentioned 555 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: Jeff Brown, you work with Kaitlin de Moore right obviously 556 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: at two Mike Leachs for a year at Wazoo in 557 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. What what did you take from those guys, Like, 558 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 4: I'm I'm really curious what you took from those guys 559 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: that you will bring with you to Oregon State this year. 560 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of how we're gonna run the 561 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: program will be based on a lot of things that 562 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: I learned from Kaitlin de Boor and just having through 563 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: maxims and things that we really carry over and over 564 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: and over again and continue to communicate those things to 565 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: our players. And when we talk about vision and goals 566 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: of the football team, it's really going to be carried 567 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: over from him. But then, you know, coach Coach Brohm 568 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: just on a level of toughness to how he coached 569 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: you know, he even coached a quarterback tough you know, 570 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: And so that piece of it, I'm going to pull 571 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: that from from what he did as a as a 572 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: coach and bring that here to Oregon State University. And 573 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: then when you talk about Mike Leach, he was really 574 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: thoughtful about the things that he did. Now, sometimes a 575 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: little bit too thoughtful, you know, because a fleet had 576 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: an opinion on everything, But he was thoughtful about how 577 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: he was making decisions about how he was going to 578 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: make this offense flow and how the defense was going 579 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: to flow, and even with the special teams. So just 580 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: being mindful of all of this, so then that way 581 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: we can put our guys in the best position to 582 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: be successful. 583 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: Well, JaMarcus, is great to have you back on the 584 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: show man, Best of luck down there. I'm looking at 585 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 4: your future football schedule here. Looks like next year is 586 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: pretty much taken care of. But why do you work 587 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: on getting the Huskies on the Oregon State non conference 588 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: schedule so we can come down there and beat your 589 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: hand up? 590 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: Hey, softee, don't forget Okay, I don't believe in Freddie 591 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: Soft talking to. 592 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: Me, Freddie Soft. That's right, love Freddy. Hey, are you 593 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: going to bring Are you bringing Freddy Soft to Corvalis? 594 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: We're always trying to get rid of them. Okay, we're 595 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: always trying to get rid of Freddie Soft. I love it. 596 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 597 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: Hey, go be you. Congratulations man, I'm fired up for you. 598 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: Best of luck and we'll talk sooner, right, Thanks. 599 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Man, thank you, thank you, Salty you got it. 600 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: Man, JaMarcus Sheppard with us on the radio show The 601 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: New Coach in Oregon State. I don't know, I'm a 602 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: Beaver fan. I'm pretty fired up for this guy. Man, 603 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: honestly outside the box, a little bit energetic guy, but 604 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: brings a lot of enthusiasm. Man, So good for them. 605 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 4: We're going to break a little text themodials and then 606 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: Kevin Harlan going to join at five on ninety three 607 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: three KJRFM