1 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this good Friday afternoon 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: in the tri State. May you have a good Friday. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: I went to Mass last night. It was fabulous at 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Saint Gurtru's. That's a different issue. Now there's many other 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: issues percolating. There's several news outlets reporting that an American 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: pilot and F fifteen has been shot down over Iran, 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: and there's images of a down pieces of a jet 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: put out by Iranian state TV. So that's going to 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: develop over the next few hours. And we pray to 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: God the pilot is okay, but we'll see what happens. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: It may not be true, by the way in government officials, 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: the US government officials, three unnamed said it's true. Others 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: no one's putting a name on it. So sometime later 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: this afternoon we may need I have more information about that. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: But joining you and I now this good Friday is Leland, 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: vender of news Nation on every Monday through Friday. First 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: of all, Leland, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. I 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: want to spend little bit of time on your book 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Born Lucky. This is National Autism Month, but events have 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: overtaken that, and you have some knowledge about what occurs 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: when an American pilot is shot down behind enemy lines, 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and this could change completely. If some pilot shows up 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: in the evening news, it's going to be off of 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: for the family, for the pilot especially, but nonetheless welcome 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: again this Friday afternoon. And what is the status and 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: your experience about having a pilot behind enemy lines if 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: this report. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: Is true, Well, Bill, this is America at its best. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Again. 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: We don't know all the circumstances, but there is a 31 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: covenant with American pilots that if you are shot down, 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: and this goes back to the Vietnam War, that every 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: other pilot and Air Force pair of rescue will all 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: risk their lives to bring you back and oftentimes take 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: on even far more danger than you were putting yourself 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: in to bring you back. And there are hollless stories 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: of that from Vietnam. And it appears as though that's 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: what's underway right now, which is America at its best. 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: We're different, We care about our people and we are 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: willing to do more to bring them back than anything 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: else anybody else, with the possible exception of the Israelis. 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: And NAT says a lot about America. The second part 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: of this is you're watching the video in real time. 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: Come in of Air Force see one thirties and paypac 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: helicopters and Jolly Green giants flying low level missions over 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: southern Iran. There is nobody in the world you would 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: rather have looking for you than Air Force Pair Rescue. 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: They are quite simply the best in the world at 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: this and there is a moment of pride in that 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: if you zoom out as you and I do, sort 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: of looking at the world. 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: If these two pilots show. 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: Up on Iranian state TV tonight, the war just changed drastically, 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: and President Trump's position just changed drastically. 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: And the Amica can people just change trains rastically. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: The last time we had hostages in Tehran was in 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine and nineteen eighty at that captivated America, 58 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: and we could be very quickly right back in that position. 59 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: The Iranians know firsthand what they can do to the 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: American people with American hostages. 61 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: News Nation is reporting as I speak that the search 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: is on for two service members after Iran shot down 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: a US fighter jet over southwestern Iran. According to multiple reports, 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the Iranian state media showed images of American aircraft flying 65 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: low over the area, including helicopters. Associated Press reported at 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: least one pilot was reportedly ejected from the craft. A 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: television channel in Iran says that if they are found alive, 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: please take them to security agencies as a precious prize 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: rather than kill them as they had previously advised on 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: the air. And of course several claims were made in 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the past of the same thing happening, but because there's 72 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: so much US military jet activity over southwestern Iran, this 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: one may have some believability to it, and of course 74 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: all the news and outlets are trying to confirm. Later 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: this afternoon it might be confirmed. And the thirty percent 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: of those who support the war, and I'm one of 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: the thirty percent who say, you know what it's said, 78 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: it's awful something this has to be done. I think 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the president, is doing what's right, even though 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: it's not popular. It's not popular with the American people 81 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: for all kinds of reasons. It's not popular in the 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: news media for all kinds of reasons. But if there's 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: a captured or a dead pilot whose body is exhibited 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: or live on TV and teyran all hell's going to 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: break loose, and that points out the uncertainty of war. 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: You never know when you start this thing. It begins 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: here and ends there. The presidential address a couple of 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: nights ago, I guess is kind of irrelevant right now 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: because if this is actually true and confirmed, everything changes. 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: Can you predict the American people's reaction if that is 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: the case. 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, I can predict there is going to be at 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: always say, further push of entrenchment on both sides. And 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Bill I said last night on television that you're right 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: that what President Trump is doing is not popular and 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: he's left with a lot of bitter choices. He's got 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: three choices, really, all of which are are bitter and 98 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: have risks going forward for this war. But he's doing 99 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: what every past American president for forty seven years has 100 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: promised to do, and none of them have had the 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: guts to do it, which is confront Iran. And when 102 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Iran refused to end its nuclear program and refuse to 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: stop funding terrorist groups that carry out its chance of 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: death to America. That the president took care of business 105 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: or is taking care of business, and that is commendable. 106 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Every other president is chickened out. So that's where we're 107 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: at right now. I don't make predictions in the Middle East, 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: but I think if the Iranians start parading American pilots around, 109 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: it only further shows why Iran needed to be confronted. 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: And I think we need to put this in perspective. 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: There have been over ten thousand combat sorties. There have 112 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: been enormous damage inflicted on the Iranian Navy and Air Force, 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: their missile launched capabilities, their nuclear research facilities, their military 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: industrial complex. The fact that we have only lost one 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: American airplane in that is absolutely stunning, and what a 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: testament to the American military might and the capabilities and 117 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: professionalism of the US military that that is the case. Yes, 118 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: any loss of an American service member or them being 119 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: taken prison of war is a individually tragic moment, but 120 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: this is what America's military signed up for, which is 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: to go protect us from people like Iran. And I 122 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: think that perspective is one that we need to keep. 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, another governor and one of the provinces in Iran says, 124 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: please do not kill this American, that this trader bring 125 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: him to us, And so it is great pr value 126 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: if it is true now a big if, because this 127 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: appears to be true because of what the US military 128 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 1: has done in response. It appears to be true because 129 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: of the wreckage of the F fifteen that they originally 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: called an F thirty five, And that appears to be accurate. 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Now could it be from another event, Yes, but not 132 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: too many Iranians in possession of the wreckage of an 133 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: F fifteen, I would think, And so it probably is 134 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: true and we'll see what happens. 135 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: The big news More telling to me though, is the 137 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: video of a Sea one thirty, which is the four 138 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: engine rescue TURBERO profit is a rescue coordinator. When Air 139 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: Force pair of rescue goes in refueling helicopters over southern Iran, 140 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: you don't do that. You don't put American service members 141 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: air Force Rescue pair of rescue guys at risk like 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: that to be shot down themselves unless you have really 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: good information that those pilots are alive and they're going 144 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: to get them right. So this is all lining up. 145 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: Of course, we don't know that this is what appears 146 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: to have happened. 147 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: I think even if it did. 148 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: Not happen, the response and the conversation you and I 149 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: are having shows the perils for President Trump right now, 150 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: because if it didn't happen today, it can certainly happen tomorrow. 151 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: And if the shootdown of one American airplane is suddenly 152 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: going to change our resolve of the country to confront 153 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: the Iranian regime after it's doing what it's doing, that 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: I think says a lot yep. 155 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: And of course that was reporting last night that there 156 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: were thousands of Iranians who were being killed by the 157 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: regime in Tehran. The civilians are being killed, of course, 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the Olympians are being hung also about an hour ago, 159 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: as the Olynics. He said, Russia is helping Iran with 160 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: intelligence and weapons, that Russia is replacing some of their 161 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: lost weapons with their own, And of course Russia's interest 162 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: is to cause as much havoc as possible to get 163 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: our interest off the Ukraine. And if Russia is involved 164 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: in this by helping Iran with intelligence and providing the 165 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: weapons to shoot down an American jet, there's another layer 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: right there that unanticipated events happen in war. If the 167 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Russians are involved in shooting down American pilots over southwestern Iran, 168 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: that's another factor. 169 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, the United States is involved in shooting down a 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: lot of Russian pilots over Ukraine. So this is war 171 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: and it should become as no surprise to us that 172 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: the Russians are doing on to us what we do 173 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: on to them. That is war and that's what's happening. 174 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: The bigger surprise would be if Russia wasn't providing intelligence 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: and help to the Iranians. It does show, I think, 176 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: why America as a force for good in the world. 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: Is America at its best, and the world is a 178 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: safer place when America is feared and respected, and this 179 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: is going a long way to restore that. It's exposing 180 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: our European allies as corrupted and controlled by their Muslim 181 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: populations and turning their back on Western values, and it's showing, 182 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: I think, in a remarkable way how the world has changed. 183 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Is the Sunni Arab world, the Bobranians, the Amiratis, the 184 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Qataris are all lining up between with the United States 185 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: and Israel to confront the greatest terror threat that the 186 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: world has seen. And that is a really remarkable thing 187 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: to watch. And the person who did it, whether you 188 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: want to give them credit or not, is President Trump. 189 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: And the other issue the sooning part of the Arab 190 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: world is with us because they understand the evils and 191 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: the awfulness of the Shia world, which was Iran. And 192 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the other thing as far as the European influx of 193 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: tens of millions of Muslims into most of Western Europe 194 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: welcome with open arms is the Shia world, in which 195 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: case there aren't too many individuals in Saudi Arabia of 196 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Iran UAE saying you know what, I want to get 197 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to London. But if you're in the Shia world and 198 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: you're a Syrian, or you're an Iranian or Iraqi or Lebanese, 199 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: you want to get to hell out and you want 200 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: to go to Europe, and they're welcome with open arms. 201 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: And so when I look at the reaction of the English, 202 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: the Germans, the Scandinavians, the French, the English to this, 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: it is tepi it because there's a chunk of their 204 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: population that actually vote that are Muslim that do not 205 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: want this to occur. Because the Shia world's being rocked. 206 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: And I think most Americans don't know the difference between 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: the Shias and the Sunnis, but in reality it's a 208 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: stark difference. As far as looking at things, and is 209 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: it fair to say that the so called Sunni world 210 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: of Muslims are one one hundred percent with America. In fact, 211 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: the leader of Saudi Arabia NBS has said more needs 212 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: to be done, he wants more attacks on the Shia world, 213 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: and that they're using us in the Israelis to attack 214 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: this she is, and we're protecting American interests because they've 215 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: been killing Americans for forty seven years and every American 216 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: president has said they must be confronted. And whether it's 217 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: a week, a day, a week, a month, a year, 218 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: or two years. The ai EA has said that they 219 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: had enough nuclear material to create about thirteen nuclear bombs 220 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: delivered by a missile, delivered by a boat, a car, 221 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: a train, a truck, whatever, and that Americans don't understand 222 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: the conflict. Is that fair to say you've been there, 223 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: you've lived it. I've read about it, but you've lived it. 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: I would encourage all of your listeners, if they want 225 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: to understand this, to read a book called After the Profit, 226 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: which explains the Sooni she has split. The difference is 227 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: that the Sunni world has gone through what we would 228 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: call a reformation process. If we want to start thinking 229 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: about Good Friday to a little compared to theology here, 230 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: but the Shia world has not gone through that reformation process. Look, 231 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: al Kada and Isis are are Sunni, so they're not 232 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: all sunshine and roses. But there is a modern part 233 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: of the Sunni world, the Amoradis, the Katari's nbs, as 234 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: you said in Saudi Arabia, that are understanding of the risks. 235 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: In fact, the biggest warning ever and the starkest warning 236 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: ever about what was coming to Western Europe was about 237 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: ten years ago from the Amoradis who said, you don't 238 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: understand and you are, for basically for political correctness reasons, 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: willing to let in radical Jihadis into your countries and 240 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: you are going to rue that day. And that was 241 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: the Amoradi Foreign Minister. So I think you're you're broadly 242 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: correct in what is happening right now, and all the 243 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: more reason why it needs to be confronted. And for 244 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: those who say Arad did not pose an imminent threat, 245 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: really think about the all the advantages that the United 246 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: States and Israel. 247 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Had in this attack. 248 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: And still forty days in the Iranians are holding the 249 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: world blackmail hostage to energy, okay, and that is that 250 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: is without a nuclear weapon and with a severely degraded 251 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: conventional arsenal. Give them either of those two. 252 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Things back, and you have a. 253 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Genocidal regime that has a rioter's veto over the world's economy. 254 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: That how that is not an iminent threat. 255 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand, well, the genocidal, homicidal and suicidal. Even 256 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: the Nazis wanted to live and go back home. The 257 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: group the two hundred thousand of the Revolutionary Guard, they 258 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: don't want to live. They want to die, and they 259 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: want to take you with him. And they believe that. 260 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: I got bad news for you, Bill, Yet bad news 261 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: for you. It's a lot more than two hundred thousand. 262 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Revolutionary Guard, but as far as 263 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: around the millions. 264 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: Their population, Iranian population is one that to your point, 265 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: genocidal and suicidal. They believe suffering and martin and misproof 266 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: of their righteousness. That is a tough group to deal with. 267 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: And I think, as I said at the very beginning, 268 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: President Trump deserves a lot of credit for doing whatever 269 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: American president promised to do and. 270 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: His not well. 271 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I go back to the Irani Iraqi war and with 272 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: ten year old little boys had keys to heaven put 273 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: around their neck and marched into minefields. And the mothers 274 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: and fathers said, send my ten year old son with 275 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the keys to heaven around his neck, and let him 276 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: be blown up by a mind to clear them. And 277 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that's the mentality we're fighting, and to think you can 278 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: reason and counsel with the twelfth e mom coming out 279 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: of some cave and ohm, which will be the final conflict, 280 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: been good to evil, and we're evil. They're going to 281 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: kill everybody. If they had nuclear weapons, it would have 282 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: been set off already in Israel and god knows where 283 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: else and maybe in Europe maybe here. Well, we got 284 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: to run. We'll have more of this. I'm sure tonight's 285 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: show is going to change for you. Is that fair 286 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: to say? It changes every minute? And see what happens tonight. 287 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk later, maybe toward Father's Day, about 288 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: born lucky in autism, because you've overcome that because of 289 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: your great family and you're succeeding famously with autism and 290 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: that's fabulous. We'll do that later on. But Leland Vender, 291 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thankfully, 292 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: thank you, Leland, Thank you. Though let's continue with the 293 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: more and we'll see what happens later today or tonight. 294 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: But buckle down, double down, or get out. I can 295 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: see it right now. The Democrats and liberals are going 296 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: to take advantage of this. The thirty percent of us 297 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: that support the war understand what's at stake here. That's 298 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: going to collapse if there's an American pilot that killed 299 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: or displayed on the TV screens in Teyran. And that's 300 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. And Donald Trump is right, but 301 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: it's not real Popular Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred 302 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Wow by Billy Cunningham. Hit the music, Dave Keaton, hit 303 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: the music. I mean up. Later we'll be red Spaceball 304 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: from Texas playing the Rangers and on to Miami. We'll 305 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: see what happens to the next seven games. But Dolo's 306 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: out again with a bad finger, blister on his finger. 307 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: But the big news, of course, is the reporting of 308 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: a US fifteen Eagle was down this morning in Iran. 309 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: There's been some speculation whether it was a mechanical problem 310 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: or a rocket or a missile or a drone. We 311 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: don't know at this point. And according to Leland Vittert 312 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: and many others. The C one thirty aircraft and two 313 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: Blackhawks spotted to flying low was a pretty good indication 314 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: that something was going on that had some veracity. According 315 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: to one media account from Wall Street Journal and others, 316 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: one of the pilots has been recovered, the other one 317 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: is still missing. And whether this is shot down or 318 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: a mechanical problem, don't know at this point. But repeatedly 319 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: over the past several weeks, the Revolutionary Guards indicated they 320 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: shot down or did something to American pilots didn't turn 321 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: out to be accurate. This one appears to be accurate. 322 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: The photos of videos were circulating on social media shared 323 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: by the Iranian state news outlets, suggesting at least one 324 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: us C one which is a refueler, was visible. And 325 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: I've seen the video. Maybe you have two and the 326 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Blackhawks with them to keep them on site for a 327 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: long period of time, And they've made regular announcements the 328 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: past month they shot down American warplanes. This one might 329 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: be accurate, and if it is, it is. And as 330 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: you may know, if you fly ten to twelve thousand 331 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: sorties over a thirty three day period, the odds of 332 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: one plane getting shot down one time or having mechanical 333 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: problems and going down is probably pretty good, and that's 334 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: part of the essence of war. But politically, I think 335 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: you and I know exactly what's going to happen, which 336 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: is the Democrats in the media will use this as 337 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: further excuses to try to get a failure in Iran 338 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: so that Trump is even more unpopular among his base 339 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: and among the voters, in which case the Democratic Party 340 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: takes over in November, and we pray on this good 341 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Friday for the return of the two pilots. That's those 342 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Those are the two important considerations. Not the aircraft. But 343 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: if you have a weapon system, you shoot something up 344 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: in the air, it hit something, yes, and that's always possible. 345 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: And it's believed that the originally it was an F 346 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: thirty five, but then Revolutionary Guard changed it to an 347 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: F fifteen and they put out a bounty on their 348 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 1: on their media in Iran to kill the pilot. Then 349 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: they changed it a half an hour later, saying he 350 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: would have great pr benefits, so don't do that. They 351 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: so called outlet there is fars far As News agency 352 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: said it was unclear whether they had possession of two pilots, 353 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: one pilot or no pilots, and the ejection seats available 354 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: to be seen if that's the right ejection seat, and 355 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: it appears to be, and we would anticipate sometime in 356 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: the next hour or two the President or Sencom's going 357 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: to hold a news conference and give us facts, assuming 358 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: they can what the facts are. I'm not sure. I 359 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: know one thing, that we're doing the right thing and 360 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: we're the good guys and they're not, and that even 361 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: though this isn't popular at this point, it is the 362 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: right thing to do. Sometimes popularity is not the same 363 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: as something that is morally right. And what Donald Trump 364 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: is doing now is morally right. It's the right thing 365 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: to do. And the pilots and the soldiers and others 366 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: involved in this, some of whom gave their lives thirteen 367 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: their gave their lives for this, understanding exactly what they 368 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: were getting into when they volunteered for service, and our 369 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: prayers are with them. The Iranian regime is uicidol, homicidal 370 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: and suicidal, and they want one thing, which is the 371 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: death of all everyone but Shia Muslims. They even want 372 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Sunni Muslims to be killed in large numbers. It is 373 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: a terrible circumstance that has festered for the last forty 374 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: seven years, and Democrats and Republicans have both allowed it 375 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: to occur, beginning with Jimmy Carter all the way through 376 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Trump's first term through Joe Biden. There were starts and finishes. 377 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: There was all kinds of approaches tried. There was boycotts, 378 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: there were tariffs put on Iranian products, there were boycotts, 379 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: and for almost fifty years we've tried to say to 380 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: this one sect in charge of Iran, you know what, 381 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: you can't do these kinds of things, which has killed 382 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: large numbers of people, including about five to six thousand 383 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Americans and wound another fifty thousand American soldiers. You can't 384 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: do that. And they kicked it off, of course, with 385 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: the taken of our hostages in nineteen seventy nine and 386 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: then the barracks two forty two Marines in Lebanon were 387 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: killed Beirut. And it's been going on for almost half 388 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: a century, and at no point as any American president 389 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: did what Donald Trump has done. He gets credit for that. 390 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: In my book, it's not it's not the popular thing 391 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: to do, but it's the right thing to do, and 392 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: what we pray that the two aviators will be fine, 393 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: and we'll go on from there, and we'll stay tuned 394 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: with this throughout the day, and the Reds Baseball will 395 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: break in if something happens about any more information. Whether 396 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: this is real or not, it appears to be real. 397 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: The President was briefed on the down F fifteen in Iran. 398 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: According to sources, nothing is official, and these weapons systems 399 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: can carry air to surface weaponry, air force inventory, nuclear 400 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: and conventional. Can reach the top speed of about one thousand, 401 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: six hundred miles an hour, which is two point five 402 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: the speed of speed of sound, which pretty quick. But 403 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: could an American plane be shot down at this point? Yes, 404 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: it's possible. After ten to twelve thousand sorties that have 405 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: been may I use the term successful? Is it possible 406 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: one time one plane might get shot down? Yes? Does 407 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: that mean the mission is a bad idea? 408 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: No? 409 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Does that mean we shouldn't be doing what we're doing? 410 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: No? 411 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: Does that mean Iran should not be taken down? 412 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: No? 413 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: We should have done that instead of a rock in 414 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and Vietnam, all of which are terrible failures, and 415 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: this one appears to be at this point a great 416 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: success and at a minimum, within the next two to 417 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: three weeks there will be not much left of Iran 418 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: do to the capability of shooting down one plane one time. Yes, 419 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: and likely that we will continue. So we're going to 420 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: follow that plus Artemis two. After one o'clock today we 421 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: have Dean Regus will be here to talk about the 422 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: latest on our Artemist two, which is about a quarter 423 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: of the way to the moon. What's purpose of the 424 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: mission once you're coming back? And Deanrigas is all the information. 425 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: And secondly, there was this morning I get together Camp 426 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Washington's skate park in which the mayor and Cheryl Long 427 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: made an appearance and Matt Reese was there, and of 428 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: course the Mayor didn't say anything. He's a figurehead. He 429 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: looks good, sounds good, just as a terrible job. But 430 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: you know it's important to be a metrosexual, which is 431 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: of course a f tab purrival. He's a modern man, 432 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: looks good, smells good. It's good mayor just no substance. 433 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: And Cheryl Long is another situation. Allegedly she's in charge 434 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: of hiring and firing in the city. You and I 435 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: know that's not true. It's af tab Puraval telling her 436 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: what to do. And Matt Reese asked her about the 437 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: results of the long investigation of Teresa Fiji's firing. It's 438 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: called a paid lee, but you know it's firing. She's 439 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: not coming back, nor should she want to come back 440 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: in this circumstance. And one interesting thing that Cheryl Long said, 441 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: she said, I'll be interested in the future to see 442 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: to see how this thing turns out. I'm thinking waiting 443 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: to find out how it turns out. You're the person 444 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: in charge of the management of the police department and 445 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: the fire department. It's your job, day by day, hour 446 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: by hour, week by week to manage the police department 447 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and the fire department. That's your job to know what's 448 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: going on. When did she know and when did she 449 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: know it that allegedly Teresa Thiji was not a good leader. 450 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: What No one supports that in the police department. They've 451 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: been demoralized. Of course, she's liked and respected, as is 452 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: Adam Henny, the interim chief. The rank and file like 453 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: them both. But the problem is they're controlled by Cheryl 454 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Long and by fter Pirival. That's the problem. And from 455 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: that she acted because of the shooting occasioned by a 456 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: character named Shaquille Ferguson out in front of the City 457 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: Bird restaurant two weeks before the election. And so after 458 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Puerival goes to Share Along and atout that point, everyone 459 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: was restless wing about downtown. What are you gonna do 460 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: about downtown? We've had all these events, a lot of crime, 461 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: and they needed a convenient scapegoat. And so if Cheryl 462 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: Long was doing her job for the three or four 463 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: years she's been the city manager, and the three or 464 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: four years that Teresa Fiji has been the chief of police, 465 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: she knew or should have known, all those many months 466 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: what the leadership of Share of Fiji looked like. That 467 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: was supported completely all the way up until two weeks 468 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: before the election by the mayor, city council and the 469 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: city manager. Now she's waiting for a report to tell 470 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: her why she fired the police chief. I need somebody 471 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: to tell me why I did what I did. Well, 472 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: damn it, Cheryl Long, don't you know what you did? 473 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: You need Frost Todd Brown to spend one hundred grand 474 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: to tell you why you did something? Don't don't you 475 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: know what you did and why? And I spoke to 476 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: one of the family members of Fiji the other day 477 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: and I said, look, in a sense, we all serve 478 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: at the pleasure of our of our employer. If I hurt, 479 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: media says to the great America, and you know what, 480 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: we love you, but we just don't like the way 481 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: you broadcast anymore. I have a contract, honor the contract. 482 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: Pay me off in a way I don't own. I 483 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: do not own this microphone right there. I don't own 484 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: the airwaves. I rent it. I use it at the 485 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: behest to my employer, Ihart Media, which owns seven hundred WLW. 486 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: I have a contract. But they can say okay, we'll 487 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: pay out your contract and you're gone. I'll say thank you, 488 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: see you when want to be away, I go. Same 489 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: thing with Fiji. All the city manager had to do, 490 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: or I have to have peer of all Scottie Johnson, 491 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: lemon Kearney say look too much crime and you're doing 492 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: all this work with the Attorney General, with at with 493 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: the US Attorney, the US Marshall Service, and the governor. 494 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: Remember the governor came in and had the big pow wow, 495 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: everyone patting each other on the back. Fiji's doing a 496 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: great job. Highway Patrol is going to be here. And 497 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: all it took was for f tab or share a 498 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: long to say, you know what, we got to make 499 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: a change. You've done nothing wrong. We're not going to 500 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: smear you. We're not going to defame you. We're not 501 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: going to hold you up to public ridicule and we'll 502 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: make you go through hell and crawl on your knees 503 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: through broken glass. We're simply going to say, you know what, Teresa, 504 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: we like your service, we want to make a change, 505 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: and we'll pay out your contract whatever you got, give 506 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: you a year severance. We love you, you live, you 507 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: love us. It just didn't work out. Does that happen 508 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: in life? Hell yeah, it happened. Happens all the time, 509 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: just the way it is. That's the right way to 510 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: do it. If you want to make a change, but 511 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: don't fire somebody, then hire a big time law for 512 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: him to come in to give you the pretext or 513 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: the excuse for doing what you've already done. And it 514 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: was her job to know what was going on ahead 515 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: of time anyway, right, it's your job to know what's 516 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: going on ahead of time. And I guess she wasn't 517 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: doing her job because up until two weeks before the election, 518 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: Fiji and long and pure Vault was singing out of 519 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: the same book. All of a sudden, events took place 520 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati with lots of crime, which by the way, 521 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: continues as I speak. I can't tell you how many 522 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: men and women have told me I'm not going downtown 523 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: anymore because it's not safe. If it's not safe after 524 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: a Reds game, believe me, it's not safe. And so 525 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: the city had to do something to placate the masses 526 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: and the mob to take some action, even though the 527 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: objects of the action was not the problem. Teresa, Thiji 528 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: is not the problem. The problem is to behavior of 529 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: about five hundred to one thousand kids who are completely dysfunctional, 530 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: without fathers in the home, without edgy location, with extensive 531 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: criminal records quite often, who consider guns to be desirable. 532 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: A lot of gun violent. Well, guns do not commit 533 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: violent acts. I hate to say this. Neighborhoods are not violent. 534 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: People and persons use guns to commit violent acts, and 535 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: neighborhoods have persons in them that act violently. We don't 536 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: have gun violence. Guns do not commit violent acts. People 537 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: use guns to commit violent acts. Yes, I'm off on that. Tangent. 538 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, all that had to happen was for the 539 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: city to say, we got two weeks to go before 540 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: the election, a little concern about the outcome. We've got 541 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: to do something. And that's something is teresaid, We've got 542 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: to let you go and you've done a great job. 543 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: Is time to get the gold watch, Time to get 544 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: out of here. See you what don't want to be you? 545 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: We love what you've done, Pay out your deal and 546 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: a way you go. But no, they couldn't do that. 547 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: Had to hire someone, a big time law firm, to 548 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: provide excuses for the behavior that resulted in Teresa being discharged. 549 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: And then the city manager said to Matt Reest today, 550 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm waiting to find out why I did it. What 551 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: you got to wait to find out who did it? 552 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: It's like the Epstein victims. Name the man who did 553 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: this to you, the Epstein victims. How many times there's 554 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: been like five or six men named out of supposedly 555 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: one thousand men. You know who brutalized you, you know 556 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: who raped you? Who are these guys? Name them? We've 557 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: got five or six names, and that's it. You know 558 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: what happened. And of course Cheryl Long knows what happened. 559 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: They looked for a scapegoat to do something, even though 560 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: it was wrong to do. It's better to do something 561 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: wrong than do nothing at all. And the mayor was 562 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: concerned about his reelection numbers against Corey Bowman, so he 563 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: wanted to provide. He wanted to have the idea that 564 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing something when it would have been better to 565 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: have done nothing. And since then, by the way, house, 566 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: crime happened. Since October, it's up sixty percent. So Fiji 567 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: was holding it down, so to speak. And under Adam Henny, 568 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: the interim chief, crime has gone up markedly, gotten worse, 569 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: not gotten better. So should Henny be fired and the 570 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: next guy be fired? We need a functional juvenile court system, 571 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: a functional prosecutor's office, a police department incentivized to arrest 572 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: the wrongdoers, and judges that will send them to jail. 573 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Now there's a novel suggestion accountability for criminal acts. There's 574 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: the problem. It's not Fiji. It's not Jeff Ruby Steakhouse, 575 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: it's not the Reds, it's not the banks, it's not 576 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: Jim Mooring, it's not the Holy Grail, none of that. 577 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: The problem is that dysfunctional criminal justice system, dysfunctional families 578 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: that don't produce mainly male members willing to participate in 579 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: the great experience of being a great American. Let's continue. 580 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: We have more in the news. According to Fox News, 581 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: one crew member rescued from the down F fifteen. Searches 582 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: ongoing for the second crew member, and it's spent several hours, 583 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: and they have locators. I would imagine I hope both 584 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: of these men. I assume their men or women are 585 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: rescued and they're in good shape. And was it shot 586 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: down or was in mechanical failure. We don't know at 587 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: this point. Stay tuned for more. After one o'clock today 588 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: will be Dean Regas and more. Reds Baseball kicks off 589 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: first Bitch about four to ten. We go to all 590 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: the action about three ten this afternoon. Chom of the 591 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: Red's News radio seven hundred WLW once again, may everyone 592 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: have a good Friday. And secondly, I would know that 593 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: we can continue to follow the events in southwestern Iran. 594 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: They're shooting down seemingly of an American F fifteen and 595 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: two pilots. There been a met a lot of video 596 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: of the ejection seat ET cetera. So we'll anticipate more 597 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: coming on that later this afternoon, but until then, Dean Regus, 598 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And that some 599 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: of the NASA released some of the first me just 600 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: by the astronauts aboard the Artemis too orion capsule and 601 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: they are shocking, They're unbelievable. So as we speak this 602 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: this Friday afternoon, where is Artemis now if anywhere, and 603 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: give us a live update on it. 604 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 6: Well, the latest is that the four crew members are 605 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 6: on their way to the Moon. This is a about 606 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 6: a four day journey to go from the Earth to 607 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 6: the Moon. They launched a couple days ago on April first, 608 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 6: and everything checked out pretty good. They circled around the 609 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 6: Earth on this very long elliptical orbit which sent them 610 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 6: way up higher than normal. 611 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: People go in the space station. 612 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 6: But everything checked out and they hit the jets and 613 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 6: are on their way to the Moon. 614 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Well, you're holding your breath a little bit when it 615 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: took off. I know I did. It was about six 616 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: forty pm and I'm holding my breath. I'm saying a 617 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: solent prayer of peace. Well, you holding your breath a 618 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: little bit as as it took off. 619 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 6: I was I was had a lot of mixed feelings listening, 620 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 6: you know, watching the broadcast. 621 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: I was watching the countdown. 622 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 6: They paused it for a second to do some fixes, 623 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 6: and you know, there was part of me that was thinking, Okay, 624 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 6: this is just the first day that they could launch. 625 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: It could be anytime April first, second, third, fourth, fifth. 626 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 6: I was fully expecting them to say, well, let's wait 627 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 6: till tomorrow. But I think with the delays that they 628 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 6: had before in the previous months, they were ready to go. 629 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 6: And so when that took off, it was pretty momentous. 630 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 6: It was pretty emotional for me too, because you know, 631 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 6: I've not seen one of these. I was born after 632 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 6: the last the Holo missions, so this was all new 633 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 6: to me. 634 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: It became in nineteen seventy two, seventy three, became almost 635 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: like getting a bus. There were twelve men that walked 636 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: on the Moon, and it looked like, Okay, Jeane Cernon 637 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: was the last one that did it. Okay, when's the 638 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: next one. All of a sudden, all hell broke loose 639 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: with Watergate, and then the Vietnam War concluded, and then 640 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, can you tell me why it 641 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: took another fifty three years to plan. The mission supposedly 642 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: is going to land in twenty or twenty nine on 643 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: the Moon. How come this's been almost a sixty year lapse. 644 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: What happened? 645 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 6: Well, you bring up a good point, and this is 646 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 6: something you know as an astronomy historian also, I followed 647 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 6: this stuff and try to figure out, you know, so 648 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 6: what was the whole motivation of going to the Moon 649 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 6: in the first place, And it was mostly to claim 650 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 6: space superiority, especially in the Cold War. We're trying to 651 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 6: get to the Moon first, We're trying to establish communications, 652 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 6: you know, pretty much in. 653 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: The beginning of the communications that we know today. 654 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 6: And so this was a part of strategic planning for 655 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 6: the government. It wasn't that they were going to go 656 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 6: to the Moon and bring back, you know, riches and 657 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 6: that kind of thing. This was to explore, but also 658 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 6: to test out these systems and you know, get there first. 659 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 6: And so after that happened, it was kind of a 660 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 6: realization like, well, we're not to build a moon base. 661 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 6: I can't afford that, so I think let's dial this back, 662 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 6: we say mission accomplished. And after that was this fleet 663 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 6: of unmanned spacecrafts that really explored the Solar System, and 664 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 6: that really opened up, you know, where the first generation 665 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 6: really know the planets. And that's what happened after that, 666 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 6: is they focused on those missions. 667 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: I can recall it John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty 668 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: two at the Michigan State saying, the goal is to 669 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: launch a capsule to the Moon and return the men 670 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: safely by the end of the decade. And that was 671 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: the timeframe operated about seven years, and it went from 672 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: nowhere to safely returning it. And we had Neil Armstrong, 673 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: of course our own doing it, but many who had 674 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: spoken about it. I've had on a couple of the astronauts, 675 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: Buzz Alder and et cetera. And it was iffy whether 676 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: they were going to live or die. And every one 677 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: of them lived. That's not true if Gus Grissom, three 678 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: of them were killed in a capsule in training. But nonetheless, 679 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: after that it didn't happen anymore. If somebody would tap 680 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: you on the shoulder this afternoon, Dean Rigus and say, 681 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: what's the purpose of this mission, Artemis two, what would 682 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: you say? 683 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 6: Well, I would say that the mission is to test 684 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 6: out these systems. We're trying to do things we haven't 685 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 6: done in a long time. We're out of practice, and 686 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 6: we've got a whole new equipment, so we've got better 687 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 6: stuff than we had in the Apollo days, and so 688 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 6: we're testing out these things. And you know, how are 689 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 6: these folks going to do this for a ten day 690 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 6: mission and find out some answers, because we need to 691 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 6: do that before we actually land. But my hope is 692 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 6: that this is just the forerunner to a longer mission 693 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 6: of sending people to Mars. 694 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: That's what I think the. 695 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 6: Ultimate goal should be to explore there and just have 696 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 6: a presence there, just temporarily and see that. 697 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: I think that would be the ultimate goal. So right now, 698 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: explain the whip lash. It went up and I went 699 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: around the Earth one time, then it like whipped. Explain 700 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: the whip to the American people. Oh yeah, So this 701 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: is some serious rocket sign stuff. This is some nerdy 702 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: stuff that's beyond even me that I can figure it out. 703 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: Is they're going to try. 704 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 6: To minimize as much fuel as possible, so they want 705 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 6: to get to the Moon and back with as little 706 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 6: burn as they can, and so they can use the 707 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 6: Earth as this kind of slingshot the gravity of the Earth, 708 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 6: and then all you got to do is just get 709 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 6: off of the Earth's you know, get into an orbit. 710 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 6: And so they put the spacecraft in this orbit that 711 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 6: was real efficient, and all you got to do is 712 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 6: just get a little acceleration and break free from the 713 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 6: gravity of the Earth and then you're on your way 714 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 6: to the Moon and then this fly by it. 715 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing is I think people get confused. 716 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 6: They're thinking, oh, we're going to land on the Moon 717 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 6: with this one, or they're not going to go that close. 718 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 6: Actually they're going to go about the several thousand miles 719 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 6: from the far side of the Moon, so they're going 720 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 6: to fly past the Moon and then the Moon's gravity 721 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 6: will kind of whip them around the side and bring 722 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 6: them back. So it's kind of at least close to 723 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 6: what if people saw that movie Apollo thirteen. It's kind 724 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: of what they did with that. And you don't really 725 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 6: need much more fuel to do that maneuver, so they're 726 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 6: pretty much coasting all the way out there to the moon. 727 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: How many miles above the surface of the Moon will 728 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: Artemis be about? 729 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 6: What I was reading is the latest estimates it's going 730 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 6: to be around four thousand miles above the surface of 731 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 6: the Moon when it goes around the far side, and 732 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 6: I was trying to calculate what their view is going 733 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 6: to be because I think people probably noticed we. 734 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: Had a full moon not too long ago, and. 735 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 6: So they're going to get there and the backside of 736 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 6: the Moon is going to be mostly dark, so they're 737 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 6: not going to see as much of the far side 738 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 6: as if they would have left a few days later. 739 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: But that was the thing. 740 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 6: I think they're like, Hey, we're on the pad, we 741 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 6: got it ready, let's do it. So the images I'm 742 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 6: predicting is they're going to be coming back, as I 743 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 6: did the simulations, it's going to be, they're going to 744 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 6: look at a crescent Moon with a crescent Earth in 745 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 6: the background, and that's going to be pretty quite a sight. 746 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: Now, when they return to Earth, are they going to 747 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: splash in the ocean or land. 748 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 6: Splashing the ocean from what I can tell, and just 749 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 6: off the coast of California, so Pacific that direction and 750 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 6: the time of splashdown I believe is going to. 751 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: Be April tenth, is what I'm here in And at 752 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: this point, this good Friday afternoon, how fast are they 753 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: traveling at this moment about. 754 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 6: Wow, So you got to tell you what are they 755 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 6: traveling relative to So to escape the gravity of the Earth, 756 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 6: you got to go over eighteen thousand miles an hour, 757 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 6: so they're cooking at least that far from Earth. 758 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 1: How they're going from. 759 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 6: You know, around the Moon that changes and fluctuates a 760 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 6: little bit, but they were what was really kind of 761 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 6: you know, the first milestone was when they entered that 762 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 6: big orbit where they were, you know, more than a 763 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 6: thousand miles from the Earth, and the space station is 764 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 6: usually only about two hundred and two hundred and twenty 765 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 6: miles from Earth. 766 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: So they were way out there as far as things go. 767 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 6: And now now they're problem Let's see if we're about 768 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 6: one quarter of the way there. They're probably about fifty 769 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 6: thousand miles away from the Earth right now. 770 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: And so you're about one quarter of the way that. 771 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: By the way, for those who may not know the 772 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: moon itself came from the Earth, explain to Dave Keaton 773 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: how our moon came from Earth. Oh, I'll try. It's 774 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: a tough one. 775 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 6: This is one of the wildest stories in geology and 776 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 6: earth history is, you know, the theory of where did 777 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 6: this moon come from? Because our moon is pretty large 778 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 6: compared to our planet, and it didn't, you know, form 779 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 6: with us, It didn't rip off of us and spin 780 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 6: off of us. 781 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: It didn't wasn't captured. 782 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 6: What we figured is that that was the Earth, the 783 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 6: young molten Earth was struck by a huge rock, a 784 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 6: huge planet planet sized objects, and that merged with the Earth, 785 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 6: broke off piece of the Earth that formed into a 786 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 6: ring around the Earth, which must have been incredible. 787 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: See a ring around the Earth of debris. Uh. And 788 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: then that debris formed into the Moon itself. 789 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 6: And that sounds like the most far fetched, ridiculous story 790 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 6: I've ever said in my entire life. But it was 791 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 6: all confirmed when our buddy Neil Armstrong brought the rocks 792 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 6: back from the Moon and the geologists look at these 793 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 6: rocks and they're like, hey, Neil, where'd you get these rocks? 794 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 6: And he's like, the moon, you know, maybe saw me 795 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 6: on TV. And they can analyze them and say they 796 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 6: were they are almost identical to Earth rocks with just 797 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 6: a few minor changes, and so that sealed the deal. 798 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 6: That's that's where the moon came from. With our best information, unbelievable. 799 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: A few years ago, a few billion years ago, as 800 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: the Earth was forming out of nothing, another large optic 801 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: planet or a big asteroid runs into the Earth a 802 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: big explosion. This supplosion takes place, throws up in the atmosphere, 803 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: which we did not have atmosphere at the time, all 804 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: this rocks and soil. It's circled the Earth for millions 805 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: and millions of more years, and then it spun off 806 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: and formed the Moon, which is about a quarter million 807 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: miles away from Earth. 808 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 6: Is that correct, Yeah, it's It's one of the most 809 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: amazing stories of any planet. And this is we're the 810 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 6: only planet that has this kind of situation with its moons. 811 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: Like Mars' moons were most likely. 812 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 6: Captured asteroids, Jupiter's moons are a combination of things that 813 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 6: formed and captured, were captured. 814 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: Mercury and Venus. 815 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 6: Don't have any moons, and so we have this one 816 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 6: strange moon with this really wild tail. And you know, 817 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 6: we got to think, like you know the question people 818 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 6: ask me all the time. After I say that, I say, well, 819 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 6: where's the hole on the Earth. I mean, this was 820 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 6: so far ago. There was no water, no life, no air, 821 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 6: It was molten. We were still cooling off, so it 822 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 6: reformed into a sphere again. And it really probably you know, 823 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 6: a lot of people say this that had a big 824 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 6: effect to the evolution of life on Earth. That sure, 825 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 6: that might have been a factor in it, so that 826 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 6: one creation of the moon might be why we are 827 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 6: still here while we're here briefly, because we have a moon, 828 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 6: we have an Earth. If the moon wasn't there, the 829 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 6: Earth would human beings will not be on the Earth? 830 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: Is that is that fair? 831 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 6: It does Some would claim that I don't know if 832 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 6: I could say that with a lot of certainty, I 833 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 6: would say that there's a lot of factors that go 834 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 6: into what happened to our Earth, and it does, you know, 835 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 6: it messes with me, Bill, like when I think of 836 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 6: like the past and all the things that happened before 837 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 6: now and how things could have been different to a 838 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 6: little things. That was definitely a factor to the tour 839 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 6: our future as a planet. But could there life have 840 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 6: formed without that. It's certainly possible. And there's a lot 841 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: of people in this field that are thinking life is 842 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 6: not that rare in the universe and that we you know, 843 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 6: would have happened one way or the other here, or 844 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 6: or that maybe We're going to find something somewhere else, 845 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 6: not that far away. So that's the that's the unanswered question, 846 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 6: is how rare is life? And right now this is 847 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 6: the only place we know of and makes it extra 848 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 6: special that way. 849 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: Now, when I read the Communist right Chinese, they want 850 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: to go to the Moon establish a base there. By 851 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: the end of this decade, when do you estimate, Dean 852 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: Regez human beings will land again on the Moon from America. 853 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: When's that going to happen? 854 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 4: Oh? 855 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 6: Boy, I wish I could say that it's all going 856 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 6: to go according to plan, But so far things have 857 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 6: not quite gone according to plan. The delays for these 858 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 6: missions have been extensive and a little troubling, I do 859 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 6: have to admit, But this is one mission that I'm I'm. 860 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited. 861 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 6: I'm following along with these guys as they're flying around here. 862 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 6: And the next one is scheduled to be a test. 863 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 6: Artemis three is going to be an unmanned test that's 864 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 6: going to go up, and then Artemis four is slated 865 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty eight to actually land people on the 866 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 6: surface of the Moon. So that'd be the most optimistic timeline. 867 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 6: I got my fingers crossed. 868 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: And so let's hope for twenty twenty eight, and then 869 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: the Chinese want to beat us back to the Moon 870 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: like the Russians tried to do. Now we're on with 871 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: the Chinese. They said they're gonna land it in twenty 872 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: eight or twenty nine, and that'll be one hell of 873 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: a thing. So at this point, all is well, life 874 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: is good. They're preceding a post a speed and they're 875 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna get there. They're gonna whip around the Moon about 876 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: four thousand miles off the back surface of the Moon 877 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: and wet back, come back to the Earth, and away 878 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: we go. Is that fair to say? I think that's 879 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: the way we go. 880 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 6: And for me, this is an exciting moment, and I 881 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 6: can't wait to see what their views are going to be, 882 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 6: like the pictures that are coming back, and just their 883 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 6: experience of this. 884 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that I could. 885 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 6: Be one of those four people in that teeny tiny 886 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 6: little craft, but I don't mind going virtually with them. 887 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: I think that's real exciting. How's the toilets? Are the 888 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: toilets working. 889 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 4: Well? 890 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 6: I don't know if people read about that that there 891 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 6: was a warning light that came on the toilet, which 892 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 6: I didn't know toilets had warning lights, but they this 893 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 6: one does. But NASA checked it out and it's all 894 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 6: a OK. 895 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: So toilet is go for lunar rendezvous. All right, let's 896 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 1: see what happens down the road. Dean, you've forgotten more 897 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: about space than most people know. You're a great source 898 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: of information, and we'll have you back on next week. 899 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: As the aircraft lands, and when's it going to land? 900 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: Today's right now, splash down. They're saying April tenth. That, 901 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: of course could change slightly, but probably not much. That's 902 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: probably because. 903 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 6: They're they're going and gravity is taking them around, so 904 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 6: there's not much change. 905 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: Not much changing from now on. All right, Well, Dean Riguez, 906 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: happy and good Friday to you, and God bless America 907 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on this Friday afternoon the Bill 908 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. Thank you, Dean, my pleasure, and keep looking 909 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: up and keep your feet on the ground, but reach 910 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: for the stars. Dean Reguez, thank you very much. Let's 911 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: continue with the more we have more on the down 912 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: to fifteen. There's been some reporting that one of the 913 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: aviators has been located and a safe. There's also reporting 914 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: something to the contrary, and I'm until there's an official 915 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: comment from the President or from the Department of War, 916 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what's going on. By say a 917 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: prayer that these two aviators will return home safely. Bill 918 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: Cunningham with you every day. You're Home of the Reds 919 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: playing this afternoon starting about I don't know three o'clock 920 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: on news radio seven hundred WLW. Not good, believe me, 921 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: not good. 922 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 5: Hello, Byetcokes, I'm broadcasting. 923 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: Gosh Claman. We have a special guest joining us now, 924 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: MVP of the ninth team ninety world champion number twenty seven. Yes, 925 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: who's wearing twenty seven? 926 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 4: Now? 927 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 7: They ought to retire it and put a statue up 928 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 7: Kyle Jose Blame it on Rijo Hosy. 929 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: How are you? 930 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm doing great, but I don't need to worry right now. 931 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 4: You've ever done a call before I even take my call. 932 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 4: We got too commercial. I don't know if you mean 933 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 4: to put it on one of one of the best 934 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 4: sex sex Who care about that? 935 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 5: You know what? 936 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: When you want it. 937 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: Sex sexy, more sex. 938 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,240 Speaker 7: Well, we got to pay for your appearance on the show. 939 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 4: I got paid. I got paid, all right, And. 940 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: One thing we don't do in this group with a 941 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: little ed problems. We don't have that problem. But some 942 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: guys have ed problems. They need a little sex. Now 943 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: talk about talk about number one. Tell Nick Ladolo Jose, 944 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: you're the greatest Red spitcher of the past on forty 945 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: years or so? What's wrong with his finger? He got 946 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: blister on the finger? I say, lift up, lift up 947 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,760 Speaker 1: your finger. But did you ever have blisters on your finger? 948 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 4: But you remember nineteen ninety one? Was there it game fourth? 949 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 4: Ou doubtful because I got the same even say that 950 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 4: blister in my figure, But I aimed at old peaching 951 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 4: to it because I was so hungry to bring the 952 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 4: Cincinnati that crown, the Trumphy that I didn't even pay 953 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: attention to it. I just stick care of it. I 954 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 4: wouldn't buy my business man work out well. 955 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: And I think you pitched eight or nine innings. I 956 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: think the Reds won that game like two to one? 957 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Game four? 958 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 4: And have a in the third inning, strike out at 959 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 4: nine and he retired the last twenty in a row. 960 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: So with a blister, with a blister, now with a blister. 961 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 7: And Lodolo couldn't go three or two or three innings 962 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 7: last night with a blister. 963 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: Is it worked? 964 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 4: I remember, I remember, I remember that time Wan Mary 965 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 4: Sharp my spot and my father in love. You don't 966 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: want me to pitch, he said, Oh, you just said that, 967 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 4: you blister. It's open. I want you to pitch because 968 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 4: I wanted to open him to win one game. I 969 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 4: did no way to. 970 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 1: Because and you know little fact that the Reds didn't 971 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: win Game four. You weren't gonna have Eric Davis. You 972 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: weren't gonna have you anymore, and weren't gonna have Billy Hatcher. 973 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: I'm Billy hat I'm Billy Haster. 974 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was done. I see him in Madarra now 975 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: and then walking around with his dog and without Hatcher, 976 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: Rio and Davis. There was a problem you had to 977 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: win that you put it all on the line, Jsey. Rio. 978 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: You put it on the line, and you bled for 979 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: this team. You bled for Wallace, now bleed with me. 980 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: You bled for the Reds. Correct. 981 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I am so happy to have them in Cincinnati, 982 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 4: rad because if he's back that I get it with people. 983 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's not offriend with anybody, but I feel 984 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 4: better if any Cincinnati they give me my own country. 985 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 4: The Moinic of Republic because people show me more love 986 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 4: that he won't believe. 987 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: Well, what about pickle juice? We talked to Dave Miley 988 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: by the way, dan A Miley loves my rap. You know, 989 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: I've started a rap career with ice Q. But that's 990 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: a different story. 991 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 4: And uh, who don't don't later I talk about that. 992 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: And uh, Dave Miley says he's got a soaka his 993 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: finger and pickle juice? Have you heard about pickle juice? 994 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 4: Yes, idea, I try, I'll try all that. Maybe the 995 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 4: desire for me to pitch a win that Game four 996 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 4: was bigger than anything any juice. Oh, because how you 997 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 4: want to win and Lugo happens. That's the that time 998 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 4: we fresh Canadia crown and we are excited about it. 999 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's been about thirty one years since the 1000 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: Reds have won a playoff series, and the Great American 1001 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: Ballpark named after me, by the way, opening twenty oh three, 1002 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: and since twenty oh three, the Reds have not won 1003 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: a playoff game in my ballpark? Is that? Think about? 1004 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: Since twenty since the Reds, the Reds have not won 1005 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: a playoff game in the history a Great American Ballpark. 1006 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: In that stadium. Think about that, not one, not one 1007 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: playoff game. 1008 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 4: That's not the question. The question is when the next 1009 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 4: time you're going. 1010 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 2: To do it? 1011 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: How long you go to pass before. 1012 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 4: We do it again? And people at CCNATI need another championship? 1013 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: Yes, wait, be goad. 1014 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 4: Came in the whole world, bro. 1015 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: Now one other issue about this blister on your finger? 1016 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 4: Uh? 1017 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: I when I pitched for Thomas Funeral Home and Deer 1018 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,439 Speaker 1: Park pony keg As you know, I had one hell 1019 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: of a curve ball, and if I had a little 1020 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: bit of blister on my right index finger, what I 1021 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: would do instead of holding the ball with my right 1022 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: index finger, I lift it up a little bit, take 1023 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: my finger off the ball, kind of lift it up 1024 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: a little bit and just throw it with the thumb 1025 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: and the middle finger. How do you like that approach? 1026 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 3: Her? 1027 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: Jose? You know all about pitch. 1028 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 4: That's good is that this year, Hollo, he let that 1029 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 4: thing last before he got well, because that's he go 1030 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 4: buck so soon they're going to open up again and 1031 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna bad again. So I hope you know a 1032 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 4: little Russian and he can go back to you know, 1033 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 4: he's peaching the kind of you know better because we 1034 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 4: need him right now. Well, we need everybody, you. 1035 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: Know, everybody with Hunter Green is on the d L again. 1036 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 1: He depends his. 1037 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 7: Life in the g He's on the bone chips at 1038 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 7: surgery and the elbow hall. 1039 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to come back. I'm gonna have to 1040 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 4: come back to you. 1041 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: Well, come on, come on, can you throw the ball? 1042 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: Can you You're a little bit older now, just you know, 1043 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: it's been what about thirty five years since you pitched? 1044 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: But could you come back and maybe for one or 1045 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: two innings? 1046 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 4: I don't might try it again because the price is right, 1047 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 4: you know how, and I'm not going to pay today. 1048 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 4: Might be able to try it. I'm not losing anything. 1049 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 7: They'd have to they'd have to put people in pay 1050 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 7: course stadium. They'd have sixty thousand people watching you pitch. 1051 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 7: Well are you appearing in since I got a. 1052 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 4: Great memory, Even though we would lose him, people just 1053 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 4: stayed there. I waited for again to teach to give base. 1054 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 4: Do you believe we got a chance. That's how Booty worked, 1055 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 4: wo work and letting to you send them that I 1056 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 4: have Will just mentioned it earlier. Yeah, people didn't moded detail. 1057 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: Were the only team in the whole world. 1058 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 4: Of baseball to win? Why to Wyant when they wanted 1059 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 4: to the last days? Do you think that stuff might 1060 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 4: happen sometime soon. 1061 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: Not with Cincinnati, I don't think. And look at this. 1062 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: From nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety, the Red Legs 1063 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: won twenty percent of all the World Series. They won 1064 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: seventy five and seventy six and ninety's three out of fifteen. 1065 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: So there I can't tell younger Americans this. There was 1066 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: a time when Cincinnati Reds were at the zenith, the 1067 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: apix of baseball, the best team. For over a fifteen 1068 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: year period, the Reds won twenty percent of all the 1069 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 1: World Series. And now we can't win a playoff game. 1070 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 1071 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 4: We need we need to get back to that winning. 1072 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 4: It is because the few people snety people, they need 1073 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 4: it and they love it. And I don't bring anybody 1074 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 4: crazy about the team Fucinnati and they need to give 1075 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 4: them in there again, even even if you did them 1076 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 4: win the worst series, I need to give to the 1077 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 4: final because that's where all this timon, and that's with 1078 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 4: the good thing to talk about it and to let 1079 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 4: people know how great each CINNETI things, are we deserve it? 1080 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 4: We didn't people deserve another winner? 1081 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: Hey, Jose, what about the new ABS system? 1082 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 7: Uh, you know, tapping your hat and all this stuff, 1083 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 7: and uh, my ball is a strike and strike as 1084 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 7: a ball. 1085 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about that? 1086 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 4: Well, there's them that there is another subject that we 1087 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 4: know that we can We're not We're never gonna have 1088 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 4: enough time to talk about it, because God is unbelievable. 1089 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 4: Right now, before they turning shut down the game, you 1090 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 4: need to show down time and now the key I 1091 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 4: don't know. Some more stuff And the one question that 1092 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 4: it rated me all that stuff is I didn't hate 1093 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 4: to hear compare somebody from before to compare somebody now. 1094 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 4: It's too difing hands right now, all the stuff going on, 1095 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 4: all the time, the people wasting, and it's unbelievable. I 1096 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 4: like to each here, how unsecure whether the empire makes 1097 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 4: him to stay or not. 1098 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: Sure, I don't like that replay stuff. 1099 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 4: You know, that's even what you're so excited about the game. 1100 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 4: You know we all make them mistake. 1101 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: I said, play it. 1102 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 4: Why the empire? You gotta be perfect? The human those 1103 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 4: who tid to make there were the teachers be going. 1104 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: You're the most popular Reds player of the past thirty 1105 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: to forty years. 1106 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 4: At all are the more beautiful and the most beautiful. 1107 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: You're beautiful. I've seen you naked once or twice, and 1108 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: I think you're a beautiful looking man. You know what 1109 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1110 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. I don't remember I came out 1111 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 4: in People magazine one of the most fig the most 1112 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 4: beautiful persons in the world. 1113 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: That's right, you were, Yeah, when that's the contract fifty 1114 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: most beautiful people in the world, jose real. Can I 1115 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: hear one Steinberg's before you go? Steinbergs they're out of business. 1116 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: You're the best there is. God bless your Josey. 1117 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 4: Hey, God bless America. Really, h you want to let 1118 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 4: people know it's Cinnati. I love Ccinnati. I love the 1119 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 4: people here at how doing the best time of my life, 1120 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 4: all my life. He's been beautiful than people. Thank you 1121 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 4: very much. 1122 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: God bless America, and God bless the d R and 1123 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: God bless Steinberg's. Thank you, Hosey, call me later at home. Thanks. 1124 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: Is there is there anyone better in the history of 1125 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,439 Speaker 1: the rest of that guy? No, I've seen him naked 1126 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: have you seen him naked a couple of times in 1127 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: the magazine fifty Most Beautiful People. That's one of them. 1128 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: We didn't make it, did we? I thought I was. 1129 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought I did make it one. Yeah, I know 1130 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: with Sarah Elice. That's your favorite girl, right. 1131 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 7: Will He the stude Reporter, the proud service, every local 1132 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 7: tame Star heating and air conditioning dealers, Tamestar quality you 1133 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 7: could feel in northern Kentucky any weather heating and air 1134 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 7: at eight five, nine, seven, eight, one, forty eight, twenty 1135 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 7: two such. 1136 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: We also want to thank Willys. Lent has now come 1137 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: to an end. Good Friday. Are you having a good Friday? Second? Yes, 1138 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: hands down. 1139 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 7: We want to thank Lear's Prime Market for the Lent 1140 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 7: and Finish sandwiches the past few weeks. Good hands down 1141 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 7: the top beer battered haddock fish sandwich in Cincinnati. 1142 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Learsprime dot Com. 1143 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 7: Lears Prime always a cut above Reds and Rangers. Today 1144 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 7: Today Willie three OZH five with the Ardell Carriers inside 1145 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 7: Pitch and then Kelsey Chevrolet xt rating show. After the game, 1146 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 7: Brady Singer will oppose Mackenzie Gore the opener the is 1147 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 7: he relate to Al Gore? No, the lineup today, Matt 1148 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 7: McClain leading off. What about TJ. Friedel out of the 1149 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 7: lineup and a day off for I think he's two 1150 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 7: for five hundred days, the hero of what last Saturday? 1151 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Right at the game? 1152 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 7: Dave Miley No, Dave Dane Myers okay center field, de 1153 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 7: La Cruz at short, Big Sal at first, Just call 1154 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 7: sal Gino designated hitter, Steer and left Stevenson catching Marte 1155 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 7: in right field and Key Briant Hayes at third. Nobody's 1156 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 7: hitting except Sal right correct, nobody's hitting. 1157 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: No, let's see. 1158 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 7: Congrats to Miami Travis Miami RedHawks Travis Steele, He's my friend. 1159 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 7: Named the winner of the twenty twenty six John McClendon 1160 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 7: National Coach of the Year Award that presented by College Insider. 1161 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 7: Of course, he led a Miami to thirty one to 1162 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 7: zero in the regular season Ncaattorney Update ACR gun Eyed 1163 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 7: Pools and Spas call today swim this year Women's National 1164 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 7: Semi Finals tonight Phoenix, Arizona, Yukon in South Carolina, UCLA 1165 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 7: and Texas at six, Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Well, I'm 1166 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,959 Speaker 7: gonna call Travis Steel Men's semi Finals tomorrow at Indy. 1167 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 7: You're not going to check out Illinois and Yukon and 1168 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 7: Michigan up against Arizona at three. Also on Fox Sports 1169 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 7: thirteen sixty. 1170 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: He told me to be my friend. No, see what happens, 1171 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: He's not picking up. Maybe he's not my friend anymore. 1172 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I gotta find new friends anyway. 1173 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 7: Sporting Sporting News All Time All America Team, nobody. 1174 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: There is this Travis Steele. Yes, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. 1175 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: You're live on the air segment. Tell Travis what the 1176 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: award he just got? 1177 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 7: As I predicted, I think he already knows because one 1178 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,919 Speaker 7: of his team and one of his players told him, 1179 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 7: congrats coach on the John McClendon National Coach of the 1180 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 7: Year award. 1181 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: You're the coach of the year, Travis. How about that? 1182 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, will you still be my friend if you're 1183 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: the coach of the year? You know what, I absolutely 1184 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: will be your friend. There you go, there you go. Well, 1185 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,479 Speaker 1: I mean, if some had told you two years ago 1186 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you're going to be the National Coach of the Year, 1187 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 1: you would have said, that's not that's not on my 1188 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: on my dance card. But congratulations, you deserve it and Uh, 1189 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: you're coming Are you coming back? Can you tell the 1190 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: American people now, are you coming back to Miami or 1191 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: taking the job maybe at U c l A on 1192 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: coming back to Miami. Yeah, there you go. You're my best, 1193 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: your lovely wife, You're a great American, You're the coach 1194 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: of the year, and you're my friend. 1195 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 7: Bill by my Sporting News all time All America team, 1196 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 7: Willie the first team. 1197 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: You better be quick on this big o on this 1198 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: first team all time. Kareem Kareem abdul Jabbar, Bill. 1199 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 7: Walton not bad, David Thompson, NC State, he could jump, 1200 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 7: Bill Russell not. San Francisco's second team. Second team also 1201 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 7: Pete L. S Sho, Pete L. S U the Big 1202 01:03:55,200 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 7: E Houston, Elvin Hayes Houston, Larry Bird Indiana State, Patrick 1203 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 7: Ewing Georgetown, and Kentucky's favored from Duke Christian Latner. 1204 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,959 Speaker 1: So no Kentucky players are on the top two. Third team. 1205 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 7: Is magic among the third team Magic Johnson Michigan State, 1206 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 7: Michael Jordan, North Carolina. Correct, So give me out of 1207 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 7: the stooge report. We got Travis Steele. 1208 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Picks up the phone, made a mistake, picked it up, 1209 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and he's still my friend, right, and he's the coach 1210 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: of the year. 1211 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 7: Probably gonna be in probably more, probably more accolades coming 1212 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 7: down the road. 1213 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Coach, how do you get better than Coach of the year, 1214 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: And well, I mean he gets more of them, and 1215 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna stay at Miami. We think correct, dough Ray 1216 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: and the me must be paid right, give me out 1217 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: of the Stuge Report, please, Willie. 1218 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 7: And honor of Mike Battaglia, who retires after a remarkable 1219 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 7: fifty one year run. Is the morning Line odds maker 1220 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 7: for Churchill Downs and the Kentucky Derby Mike and get 1221 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 7: a tip on a horse. And also Jack Crumbley last 1222 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 7: daving the last day. Here as news. 1223 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Director professional newsman. 1224 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 7: Bingo, we leave you with the immortal words of the 1225 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 7: Stooge Report. 1226 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Here we go, Red Legs, here we go. Win some games. 1227 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Travis Teal picks up the phone, makes a mistake on 1228 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: seven hundred. Last time we did that. It didn't work out, 1229 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: that's for sure. On seven hundred WLW by Bill cunning 1230 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: in the Great American lessonceet of the tenth is a 1231 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: date that will live in in for me for many 1232 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: is when Charlie Kirk was murdered, and it was live, 1233 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: it was seen, and it was despicable and wrong. But 1234 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: what's happened since then is that there's a cottage industry, 1235 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: almost like the Lee Harvey Oswald situation in the Grassy Knoll, 1236 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 1: about conservatives, mainly conservatives such as Cannie Owns and Tucker 1237 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Carlson saying it was an inside his own sales, his 1238 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: own security them killed him. And the worst things imaginable 1239 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: are being said about Erica Kirk, and the flames have 1240 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: been fueled by a report that the so called murder 1241 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the projectile, the round that killed Charlie Kirk, could not 1242 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: be matched to the rifle by the assassin. And that's 1243 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: kept alive, shall we say, the the idea that maybe 1244 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: there was a massive conspiracy and maybe the murderer himself 1245 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: is not the real murderer. Even though this video of 1246 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson and coming off the coming out, coming off 1247 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the roof, he confessed to it to his more or 1248 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: less his boyfriend is his furry boyfriend and also to 1249 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: his own father. And Tyler Robinson might be a putts 1250 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 1: according to some and to me this is amazing. And 1251 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 1: this report about the ballistics is another log on the 1252 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: fire and joining you and I now is Nick Fondaco. 1253 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: He's an associate editor of usbusters dot org. Have the 1254 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,439 Speaker 1: website up now, and Nick, welcome again to the Bill 1255 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Cunningham showing, first of all, explain what the ballistics have 1256 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: shown and why they don't. We don't think they show 1257 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: much at all, but many said it's the smoking gun. 1258 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Explain that to the American people. 1259 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on. 1260 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 4: So. Yeah. 1261 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 3: So basically, what the ATF did, and this is where 1262 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 3: the sort of like the non controversy has sort of 1263 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 3: stemmed from, is you had the Daily Mail sort of 1264 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 3: go with this headline claiming that the bullets that was 1265 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 3: test fired from Robinson's rifle didn't match the bullet that 1266 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 3: was inside of Charlie. But basically, if you look at 1267 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 3: what they actually looked at the ATF is, when a 1268 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 3: bullet is fired from a gun, it goes through the barrel, 1269 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 3: the hard still of the barrel versus the soft copper 1270 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 3: of the jacket of the bullet. It leaves behind on 1271 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 3: the copper jacket these marks and grooves that are unique 1272 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 3: to the rifle that fired them, and it's consistent from 1273 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 3: bullets to bullet. But what was in Charlie, there was 1274 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 3: not enough copper hoverable and being able that was able 1275 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 3: to be put back together to actually identify those markings 1276 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 3: because it's basically a fingerprint for a weapon. Some of 1277 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 3: your listeners might remember a lot of like the old 1278 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 3: like either CSI CSI Miami, where they'd be looking at 1279 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 3: the bullets under microscopes to like determine like if the 1280 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 3: markings match. It's that type of thing where basically there 1281 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,560 Speaker 3: was not enough intact copper recovered from Charlie to be 1282 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 3: able to compare it to a test bullet fire. And 1283 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,919 Speaker 3: basically this happens a lot of times in different cases, 1284 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 3: and there's other evidence that can be used in a 1285 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 3: case to bring somebody to justice. In this case, it's 1286 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 3: his family turning them in the messages the killer sent 1287 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 3: to his training boyfriend and girlfriend whatever it is, and 1288 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 3: the messages that it basically almost admitting to this. 1289 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 1: Right, he confessed, and I guess you can't get away 1290 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 1: from that that. Tyler Robinson actually confessed a few times 1291 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: and he fetched the profile. It was his weapon, and 1292 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: his finger was on the weapon, correct fingerprint. He left 1293 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 1: the gun behind, which is a rifle behind, which is 1294 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 1: really stupid, and then two to three day search it 1295 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: was located. His father kind of turned him in and 1296 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: so I guess the headline was the bullet the kill 1297 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: shot didn't match the rifle. Isn't that misleading? 1298 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly. 1299 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 3: So you had the Daily mail, one would a thing 1300 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,719 Speaker 3: that cleaned the headline and tweets that claimed that there 1301 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 3: was no match at all, but there wasn't anything to match. 1302 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: It's like saying they sound like a partial fingerprint, but 1303 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 3: it's like only one groove of a fingerprint and saying, oh, 1304 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 3: it doesn't match. There wasn't enough there for them to 1305 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 3: actually try to even do the match because there was 1306 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 3: not enough copper intact copper pieces for them to pull 1307 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 3: the markings to compare it to the test shot from 1308 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 3: the rifle. 1309 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: And this is a little bit gruesome, but it is 1310 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: thought because the round only hit muscle and tissue, there 1311 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 1: should have been more of the bullet remaining, but in 1312 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: reality it could have hit a vertebra in the neck 1313 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 1: that would have shattered the round into pieces, and the 1314 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: shrapnail saying it wasn't available to be matched. Am I 1315 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: correct about that? 1316 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a possibility, and there are definitely different 1317 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 3: ballistics videos that you can watch online from like Brendon Herrera, 1318 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 3: Kentucky Ballistics, any one of these that will that shoot 1319 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 3: rounds into ballistics gelatin for for content creation and you 1320 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 3: can see that with especially with like rifle bullets and 1321 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 3: stuff like that. But they're meant to sort of splay 1322 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,759 Speaker 3: open and when they hit certain materials, even just flesh, 1323 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 3: sort of splay open and flatten and they can possibly 1324 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 3: just shred to pieces or if they hit they hit bone, 1325 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 3: they can break to pieces. That's sort of what they're 1326 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 3: designed to do because they're they're designed to dump energy 1327 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 3: into a target. 1328 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: I've seen rifle shots in a gelatine which isn't very thick, 1329 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: and it will it will change and shatter the round 1330 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: even though it doesn't hit a bone. And why and 1331 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: that's what is intended to do. Can you give me 1332 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: your just your opinion, what's behind this? I try to 1333 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 1: watch some of that. I try I try to watch 1334 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Candizone a little bit so I foind out what she's 1335 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 1: talking about. She got the CIA involved, got the got 1336 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: the Israelis involved, that they have the security team for 1337 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. They were involved, and you got the metal 1338 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: necklace moving inappropriately. The microphone was an explosive device. I'm 1339 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching this and I'm I mean that can 1340 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: can you tell me? Why? Why is this a thing, 1341 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,560 Speaker 1: especially among conservative media to get the Jews? The c 1342 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: i A involved, Jeffrey Epstein was involved in it somehow, 1343 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: and I'm going what instead the Egyptians? Can you? Can 1344 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: you walk away? These are bright Candiz OANs and Tucker 1345 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Carlson are bright people, They're probably geniuses. What what what? 1346 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: Why Why are they into this? 1347 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 3: I I it's from and my just to put on 1348 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 3: my own personal hat here. I think a lot of 1349 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 3: it is they know well that this isn't true, and 1350 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,680 Speaker 3: it's a lot of it is they're doing it for 1351 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,880 Speaker 3: the clicks. They're doing it for the traffic, They're doing 1352 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,719 Speaker 3: it for the hate watchers. It is about generating buzz 1353 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 3: for them and their programs, their products to get people 1354 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 3: to do more of it. That's what we saw, at 1355 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,959 Speaker 3: least that's my belief with even the daily mails deceptive headline, 1356 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 3: where you have people sharing their tweets, sharing their reports 1357 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 3: and just either retweeting it because they believe it or 1358 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 3: retweeting it because they want They're trying to go against it, 1359 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,799 Speaker 3: strike it down and refute it. So now their story 1360 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 3: and their tweet is going viral, they're going to get 1361 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 3: the ad revenue from X for it. And then if 1362 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 3: you go even to the Daily Mail website, like you 1363 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 3: go there and you're just bombarding, if you don't have 1364 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 3: ad blocker on, you're just bombarded with ads on both 1365 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 3: of the columns, pop ups in your face, ads would 1366 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 3: between almost every paragraph. Seemingly like a lot of this 1367 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,680 Speaker 3: is to generate revenue, generate cloud and generate people like 1368 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 3: interest so people can get more of their material. It's 1369 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 3: it's a me, me, me financial thing. 1370 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: And so you're you're saying that without clickbait, they still 1371 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: call it pots. Podcasters don't even exist without that, so 1372 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: and you need clickbait. And so I would not have 1373 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: gone to the Daily Mail story except the headline that 1374 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 1: the kill shot and the bullet didn't match the rifle. 1375 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what is that? And then I'll watch Candice 1376 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 1: Ow's thinking, Okay, I want to hear why she has 1377 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 1: this intense disgust for for Erica Kirk. I'm trying to 1378 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: understand where she's going. I finally give up and say 1379 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: I can't beg this anymore, and so you think it's 1380 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: clickbait money, that's what's behind it. 1381 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of it is clickbait stuff 1382 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 3: or maybe even in some of their instances, probably Candace 1383 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 3: she actually believes that, which is kind of not good 1384 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 3: for for just say about her herself there. But basically, yeah, 1385 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 3: a lot of it is. And like I would pishpect 1386 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 3: they're they're a little bit in that. Like, there's plenty 1387 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 3: of podcasters out there who can make a name for 1388 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 3: themselves who make good content without going into this type 1389 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 3: of stuff. If it's like either comedy stuff, they're talking 1390 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,160 Speaker 3: about sports stuff like that. Like, there are plenty of 1391 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 3: different podcasts that don't deal with this, even on the political. 1392 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 4: Right, where they'll avoid this type of. 1393 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 3: Thing and don't go with that, and they're able to 1394 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,559 Speaker 3: produce good content that gets thumb in audience and is 1395 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 3: a positive message for the right that doesn't have to 1396 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 3: deal with this type of conspiracy theories with grim implications. 1397 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 1: And this was video. We saw it. I forced myself 1398 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 1: two or three times to watch it. I watch him 1399 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 1: die right there and then a security team, what would 1400 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: you need you jump into the scene quickly to try 1401 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 1: to say to save Charlie, which was not possible. But 1402 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: now they're putting things in their pocket that shouldn't be 1403 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: put in their pocket. I'm looking at at this one 1404 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: website that said Charlie Kirk is telling I'm looking another 1405 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 1: one and say who killed Charlie Kirk. I'm thinking what, 1406 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to say, and 1407 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,880 Speaker 1: and none of on the trial take Tyler Robinson's trial. 1408 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: I hope it's I hope it's broadcasting. I want to 1409 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: see the evidence to put these things to rest. But 1410 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 1: there's almost an unnatural hatred for Erica Kirk of taking 1411 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: over that that she was somehow involved in this, that 1412 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: she didn't. She wasn't at the scene, she was somewhere else, 1413 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: and when she found out about it, she went there immediately. 1414 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,759 Speaker 1: And when she went there, somebody in her entourage charged 1415 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 1: twelve hundred dollars on a website to get some clothing. 1416 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: And the reason was she went there so quickly. She 1417 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: didn't take a bag. But every action of Erica Kirk's 1418 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 1: being examined by the far right to make a look 1419 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: as if she was involved in her husband's death and 1420 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: that he didn't want to marry her, that Donald Trump 1421 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: got involved somehow and forced forced a marriage upon her. 1422 01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm reading this stuff and I'm losing my mind. Can't 1423 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: we just understand Turning Point USA has been a tremendously 1424 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 1: positive effect on American society. What Charlie Kirk did over 1425 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: a ten twelve year period was impossible to do, and 1426 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: he did it. He turned young Americans toward conservatism. And 1427 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 1: now that he was murdered and it was videoed and 1428 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:22,640 Speaker 1: the evidence is beyond approach that yes, somehow he was 1429 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: murdered in that situation. And these conspiracy theories have the 1430 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Utah campus police involved too, because one of the security 1431 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 1: guys said, who's got the coverage of the rooftops? And 1432 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 1: according to media accounts, they said, we'll have those covered, 1433 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: and then Charlie Kirk's team did not follow through that 1434 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,440 Speaker 1: day to make sure they were covered. So whatever, and 1435 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,759 Speaker 1: who killed Charlie Kirk to cover up the Epstein files. 1436 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm losing my mind, you know what I'm saying, Nick, 1437 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 1: give me your thoughts and where this thing's had it 1438 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: off anywhere before we talk about what's happening in Iran. 1439 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just hoping that right now, it's it's it 1440 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 3: should be dying out, but unfortunately, with the Daily Mails report, 1441 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 3: it's going to add more fuel to this fire. But 1442 01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 3: just because it's them and everybody else just trying to 1443 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 3: generate con content or generate traffic for themselves rather and 1444 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 3: just trying to make a buck off of it. It's 1445 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 3: pretty disgusting about this. 1446 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,759 Speaker 1: This CNN Candice Owens won't take back conspiracy theories. Owens 1447 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: has instead suggested France, Israel, and Egypt might have been involved, 1448 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people close to him. 1449 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: I'm going, so it isn't Tyler Robinson, it's France, Israel 1450 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: and Egypt got involved in this big conspiracy in order 1451 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 1: to take away responsibilities or recoveries of the Epstein files. 1452 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, have I lost my mind or what? Leave 1453 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 1: that to the side. I'm watching now what's happening in 1454 01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Iran with the down to F fifteen, et cetera. And 1455 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,719 Speaker 1: now we have Joe Scarborough and others saying that Donald 1456 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 1: Trump and Pete he Seth's on your website NewsBusters dot org, 1457 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,040 Speaker 1: uh Nick Vonacero, that they've committed war crimes and that 1458 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: when the Democrats take over in the Hague, there's gonna 1459 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 1: be Donald Trump's gonna be a war criminal. It's one thing. 1460 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 1: After November, if the polls are right, the Democrats going 1461 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 1: to impeach him forever. Then when he gets out of office, 1462 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,879 Speaker 1: he'll be suited and dited all over again. But according 1463 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: to NBC News, according to ms now, Donald Trump right 1464 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,519 Speaker 1: now is a war criminal taking out that bridge. Explain 1465 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 1: that to the American people. 1466 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's absolute bunk. And it's basically them just 1467 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 3: trying to scrap for anything to try to put a 1468 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 3: negative spin on taking out our ran. This the number 1469 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 3: one state sponsored terrorism in the world they're trying. They're 1470 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 3: also saying, like him striking oil infrastructure would be considered 1471 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 3: a war crime. Meanwhile, they all support Ukraine, and Ukraine 1472 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 3: is striking Russian oil facilities, and you don't hear any 1473 01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 3: of them calling saying that Ukraine is committing those war 1474 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 3: crimes at all. And even when it comes to what 1475 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 3: Trump is saying about striking the power plants and stuff 1476 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 3: like that, that's there are ways to hit the power 1477 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 3: plants without destroying them like they want him to do. 1478 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 3: There's there are things that we can launch at power 1479 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 3: lines to cover them with metal that just takes out 1480 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 3: the power lines, not the facilities themselves. They want this 1481 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 3: to be as bad looking as possible. They want it 1482 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,479 Speaker 3: to they go along with these narratives to just make 1483 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 3: Trump look as evil as possible. This is what came 1484 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 3: out in a defamation suit against ms MSNBC a few 1485 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 3: years ago a couple of years ago. Rather where they 1486 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 3: will go along, and this came out in discovery and 1487 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 3: they ended up having to settle. They basically will come 1488 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 3: out and say they'll pick a story, go with a narrative, 1489 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 3: even though that narrative is not true and it's sort 1490 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 3: of shady. If it invokes the type of imagery that 1491 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 3: they would like with Trump, like Kuvorkian, any sort of 1492 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 3: Nazi thing, they're going to run with it. And that's 1493 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing in this case. 1494 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, on Thursday, Joe Scarborough ms NOW delivered a legal 1495 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,880 Speaker 1: judgment on potential US strikes against Irani infrastructure. That's a 1496 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,680 Speaker 1: war crime. That's taken out, the dams, the bridge that 1497 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 1: was taken out, maybe the power plants, etc. Maybe carg Island, 1498 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 1: and that they're ginning up the idea that now the 1499 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 1: NATO allies, most of them are kind of against what's 1500 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: going on, and as a consequence, they're in charge of 1501 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 1: the Hague for International War Crime to get a warrn 1502 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 1: out for Donald Trump's arrest. So we can't you know, 1503 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,640 Speaker 1: you thought it was over after what Donald Trump went 1504 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: through the first time, which are the ninety two counts 1505 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: indictments of being arrested sitting in a filthy New York 1506 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,759 Speaker 1: City courtroom Allen Alvin Bragg for like seven or eight weeks, 1507 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,720 Speaker 1: then on to Atlanta, then on the Nevada, onto Arizona, 1508 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 1: and it goes on and on, and they're getting ready 1509 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,959 Speaker 1: when he leaves office. I pray to God in January 1510 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty nine, that's when the fund begins again. 1511 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 1: From their perspective'll be enough to impeach him. They're gonna 1512 01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 1: have to federally criminally indict him. If the Democrat wins 1513 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: the presidency in twenty twenty eight, here we go again 1514 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. At that point, the poor guy is 1515 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 1: going to be eighty three years old, and then they're 1516 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,839 Speaker 1: gonna go after him for war crimes, including the American pilots, 1517 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: including Pete Hegseth, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs 1518 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,160 Speaker 1: of Staff. They're all going to be indicted in the 1519 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 1: Hague for war crimes because during a war they took 1520 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 1: out a bridge and took out some power stations. And 1521 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 1: I thought at some point, you know, I thought it 1522 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: would be over after the Democrats what they did to 1523 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and seventy five other people around him. And 1524 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 1: now it's kind of coming back the other way. Pam 1525 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,680 Speaker 1: Bondi's gone. I would anticipate the new Acting ag is 1526 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,919 Speaker 1: going to do some things to make it more difficult 1527 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 1: and make it easier, shall we say, for the Democrats 1528 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 1: who commit a crime to be indicted. And then it's 1529 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: going to continue on in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty. 1530 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: It's not going to stop. We're gonna keep going on 1531 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,520 Speaker 1: and on and on. And it begins with Joe Scarborough 1532 01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 1: and Democrats saying this is a war crime, and war 1533 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: crime is committed by war criminals, and these criminals not 1534 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump and others must be arrested. Well, we 1535 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: have to run Nick Vonacerro and we'll see what happens 1536 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk, who lived a good life. He was 1537 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 1: a good man. There's a grieving widow with a couple 1538 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 1: of small kids, and suddenly the conservative media left, the 1539 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: far right wing of the right wing of the conservative media, 1540 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 1: is blaming Erica Kirk, the Chinese, the Russians, the Egyptians, 1541 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the Jews. Everybody's responsible except Tyler Robinson. And you think 1542 01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: about this, can you imagine these other countries. We have 1543 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 1: to pick one person to be the patsy. Let's pick 1544 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson to work for us to kill Charlie Kirk, 1545 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: and let's have him dating this one furry character and 1546 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,639 Speaker 1: then he's going to confess to the whole thing. His 1547 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: fingerprint is going to be on the weapon. And guess what, 1548 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 1: we'll find somebody else as responsible. Can anybody sell this 1549 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 1: to anybody? Does this work in the real world? 1550 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, it does seem like there's there's some people 1551 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 3: that are that are interested in it and want to 1552 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 3: try to buy that type of narrative. And just to 1553 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 3: go back to what you were saying, like with the 1554 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 3: war crime stuff, like yeah, the the what you pointed out, 1555 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 3: what they want to go after the pilots and stuff. 1556 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 3: They're willing the left and the media or willing to 1557 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 3: throw American service members who are putting their lives on 1558 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,880 Speaker 3: the line under the bus just so they can quote 1559 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 3: unquote get Trump right. And they're willing to throw away 1560 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 3: American sovereignty to drag Americans but in front of the Hague, 1561 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,440 Speaker 3: like the only like international If you talk to international 1562 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,559 Speaker 3: experts and foreign politiciers, they'll tell you international law is 1563 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,640 Speaker 3: kind of like a thing that really doesn't exist because 1564 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 3: like a country needs to willingly subject themselves to the Hague. 1565 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 3: And these form these laws because there's no way to 1566 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,680 Speaker 3: actually enforce it, and countries tend not to do it 1567 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,840 Speaker 3: because it gives up their sovereignties. So they want to 1568 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 3: give up American sovereignty and they want to punish American 1569 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 3: service members just to get Trump. 1570 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Well, we got to run. But even Senator Kelly a 1571 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: few weeks ago talked about disobeying orders and it's it's 1572 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: unbelievable what's coming for Donald Trump after he gets out 1573 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,120 Speaker 1: of office and everyone connected to him, which is what 1574 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 1: they did five or six years ago. We got to 1575 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: run NewsBusters dot Org. And Nick Fondacaro, you're a great 1576 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,679 Speaker 1: American and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 1577 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick, Thanks for having me on. God bless America. 1578 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: Let's continue with more news coming up. You're home of 1579 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 1: the Reds News Radio seven hundred author. 1580 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's it's really frustrating, especially you know, 1581 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 8: I had a good year last year. I wanted to 1582 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 8: come to this year strong and build upon that, you know. 1583 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,439 Speaker 8: I mean, that's still my goal. But uh, at whatever 1584 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 8: time that is gonna be. But I think the main 1585 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,760 Speaker 8: goal right now is really just got to be I 1586 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 8: got to get back to where. 1587 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 1: I could even compete at this level. 1588 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 8: So you know, we're gonna just like I said, take 1589 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 8: it day by day and hopefully get back to that. 1590 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 5: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting. 1591 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,679 Speaker 1: We'll segue this special guest an hour ago. Jose Rio 1592 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 1: and Travis to have as Steele. Now, Michae McConnell. Those 1593 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 1: are big names and you going up, What the hell 1594 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 1: are you doing here? 1595 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:23,639 Speaker 4: First? 1596 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,680 Speaker 9: I had to stop by do some they call me 1597 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 9: to do some some commercial work. 1598 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,240 Speaker 1: You miss this yet, Mike. 1599 01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 9: You got Joseph Chevrolet, We do ACR gunnight Pools, We 1600 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 9: got the Zeros carp They said a number of them 1601 01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 9: that need to be redone. I said, I'll be there. 1602 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 9: I'll do what I can. Even though I don't work here. 1603 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 9: I'm a team player. 1604 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 1: You come in anyway, you don't work, and you still work, 1605 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 1: that's right. Whatever I can do. Well, what do you think, Mike? 1606 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,840 Speaker 1: You're here? Do you miss this? The only bad part 1607 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,599 Speaker 1: you miss is getting up at three o'clock in the morning. 1608 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 1: That is the worst part. 1609 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, you do midday three pm to three to six 1610 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,400 Speaker 9: too much Sunday afternoon. 1611 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Now, how do you do? You gotta switch? What do 1612 01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 1: I do? I'll just got back from spend a month 1613 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,679 Speaker 1: in Florida. That was nice. I know the feeling crews 1614 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:02,960 Speaker 1: down there. Then what. 1615 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 9: Nothing, I'll go Philly for Mother's Day. I'll go to 1616 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 9: Canada in the summer. 1617 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: If you could do middays, would you still be here? 1618 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 3: Now? 1619 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I think seventy was a nice round number. Getting old, Mike? 1620 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? Not yet? Not old? Not 1621 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,719 Speaker 1: yet not feeling it? Which you're getting old? I feel very. 1622 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 9: Immature and that helps you feel That helps you feel 1623 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,120 Speaker 9: out eed stuff. 1624 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 1: But how's the foot? You told me off there? Got 1625 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,519 Speaker 1: a foot from you? Getting old? Mic? 1626 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,640 Speaker 9: Well, No, I had some surgery and it's all hatched up. 1627 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,760 Speaker 9: I got like five screws in my one a joint 1628 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 9: behind my big toe five screws. 1629 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: How's that working out. I'll show you the picture. You 1630 01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: can put it on your blog. It'll be a hit, 1631 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: and we'll send it to me x ray Mike's foot, 1632 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Mike's foot, I'm kind of a hit. Or to show 1633 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,559 Speaker 1: me something, I put it on my x account. The 1634 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,680 Speaker 1: way we go? What's going on here? Nothing? Jack Crumbley's 1635 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,679 Speaker 1: last newscast. I think it's three o'clocker, three thirty. 1636 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 9: Wow. 1637 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Got to come here for that, and we'll stick around. 1638 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 1: It's got a couple of hot old friends coming in. 1639 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm told I think there'll be some pizza, Sarah, and 1640 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,600 Speaker 1: we need pizza and some chocolate cake days in it 1641 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,639 Speaker 1: in this place spring for pizza. We're absolutely not. We're 1642 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: cheap as hell. 1643 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,800 Speaker 9: How long se you've been here, Jack's probably twenty years, 1644 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:13,839 Speaker 9: twenty We traded. 1645 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:19,880 Speaker 1: It's all trade. You miss any part of. 1646 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 9: This, yeah, I mean the camaraderie part of it. Sure, 1647 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 9: you take a tour around the building, a check on 1648 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 9: people's morale. 1649 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 1: With morale is terrible. It's awful. Now are things going? 1650 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 1: It's awful? But nobody's here. It's all I'm amazing. We 1651 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 1: even get on the air half the time. 1652 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 9: When you think back to how many people used to 1653 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,600 Speaker 9: work here at one point when we took up the 1654 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,680 Speaker 9: entire floor of this building from one end to the other, 1655 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:40,559 Speaker 9: twenty one. 1656 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 1: Hundred, one hundred whalespeople. At one point, they're trying to 1657 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: get one hundred salespeople. I've bet two hundred and fifty 1658 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: people worked here. Then we're down about five that work. 1659 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 9: I think it's about with sales, maybe thirty five or 1660 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,719 Speaker 9: forty people. 1661 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 1: Our media build. It's a great facility, and then we 1662 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 1: can't see outside and the equipment doesn't work. Other than that, 1663 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 1: it's great. I can't see my producer, he can't see 1664 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: the news room. Who's bright you? Is that some some 1665 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 1: suit at iHeartMedia? What's going on around town? Not the 1666 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,559 Speaker 1: mayor doing that? Was opening day on vacation. I guess 1667 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 1: again holding things that he's the glue that holds it 1668 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,680 Speaker 1: all together. No question about that. It's on vacation. But 1669 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 1: about the sheriff Tiji, what's going to happen to her? 1670 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: I think she's going to get She's got the payday. 1671 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Now she's going to continue to get paid out. Been 1672 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,559 Speaker 1: in mediation. She wants this number and they want give 1673 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,599 Speaker 1: her that number and the number at some point well 1674 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 1: in the middle, getting about to two to four million 1675 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,719 Speaker 1: is what I predict for THEIRS to screwball tactics, along 1676 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 1: with Chief Washington, along with Shrevinsky, along with the eight 1677 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,000 Speaker 1: zero point two million for the simple we got the 1678 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,759 Speaker 1: symphony got to worry about. Seg is a big tuba player. 1679 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,880 Speaker 1: He's going to be at the Symphony at the Farmer 1680 01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Pavilion at River Bend. That's going to be great. Can't 1681 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,360 Speaker 1: wait for rock manonof one Night? Really you know about that? 1682 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, Mozart, Beethoven, Yames, you like ms Yeah, Bertrand Russell, 1683 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 7: all those guys. 1684 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 1: Somebody prepped for the screw he seldom does. Dudes, why 1685 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: don't you come back anyway? Not about coming back because 1686 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 1: the rumors people are leaving, but they always come back. 1687 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,599 Speaker 1: It's like a Herbie's infection. You leave, but you come back. 1688 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,679 Speaker 9: Well, I heard after I told them that I would 1689 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,800 Speaker 9: be leaving, I heard through channels that people that well, 1690 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 9: they keep saying, you're going to think, you're going to 1691 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,200 Speaker 9: change you mine, You're gonna come, They're gonna change your mind. 1692 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 1: You're going to come to come back. They're going to 1693 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,519 Speaker 1: come back, you don't think so you're getting old, Mike. 1694 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,320 Speaker 1: You're seventy, for God's. 1695 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,200 Speaker 9: Sake, I mean I miss you know, people around here 1696 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 9: and also really a lot of the audience. 1697 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Right, So you're coming back. 1698 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 9: No, you're Re's guy, the ree guy, Matt Reese. 1699 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Well no, he retired. Yeah, you should have a mandatory 1700 01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 1: retirement age of seventy, do you agree? I agree? 1701 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 9: And you're way past you, guys, because you should be fined. 1702 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 9: Will find you for every year Vanda mandatory age. So 1703 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,160 Speaker 9: give me some sports and make it fast, will you? 1704 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,240 Speaker 7: WILLI the stude Reporters Approach Service, every local temp Star 1705 01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 7: Heating in their conditioning dealers one star, Paula. You could 1706 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 7: feel a Northern Kentucky called Johnson Heating and Cooling eight 1707 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,320 Speaker 7: five nine four seven two sixty fifty one. 1708 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 1: You're really doing ACR Guny pulls and spots. Yeah, and 1709 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:16,599 Speaker 1: Joseph Chevrolet and Calumbia CHARSI doing all those. Yeah. How 1710 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 1: about Western and Southern doing this too? I got a 1711 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: lot of work to do, as maybe I am gone 1712 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Reds and Rangers today. 1713 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,560 Speaker 7: Willie three h five hard, He'll carryers inside pitch and 1714 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 7: the Kelsey Chevrolet extra inning. 1715 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,839 Speaker 1: Show after the game. You heard from Nick Lodolo. 1716 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 7: There got a few minutes ago prior to today's gave 1717 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 7: me left last night? 1718 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Three have a assignment? 1719 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 7: Is start with a blister again on that left index 1720 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 7: finger at Daytona, throwing only four pitches and worked into 1721 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 7: the third inning and then that was it? 1722 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 1: What did Rio say an hour ago? Show it off 1723 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,360 Speaker 1: the end of the finger and I keep playing right, 1724 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,559 Speaker 1: chew it off. That's what I did at Thomas Funeral Home. 1725 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 1: I had a problem. I chewed it off, spit it 1726 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 1: out and said, batter up. You got two hands? Yeah, 1727 01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,639 Speaker 1: I got nine fingers, but you can do it nine, 1728 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,560 Speaker 1: can't you? Eight? Are Mike? Please continue? 1729 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 7: Let's see will the NCAA Atturney update brought to you 1730 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 7: by A C. R. Gunn ied Pool response new sponsor 1731 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,559 Speaker 7: call today swim this year, Mike coming back? 1732 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 1: Remember that line. 1733 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,800 Speaker 7: Women's National Semifinals tonight in Phoenix at six, Yukon and 1734 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 7: South Carolina, UCLA and Texas on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. 1735 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,839 Speaker 7: UH Men's semi Finals tomorrow at three Fox Sports thirteen 1736 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 7: sixty Illinois and Yukon, Michigan, The Arizona. 1737 01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Who do you like in those matchups, Mike, if anybody Arizona, 1738 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I like Michigan on the Michigan man. Now, I believe, 1739 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: I believe in Yukon. I think Yukon is gonna win. 1740 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Then Michigan and Michigan beat Yukon for all you like to. 1741 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 1: I'll bet you the hot fudge Sunday I'll never see 1742 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 1: a right good I'll bet you two of them. All right, 1743 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,680 Speaker 1: then say as that in the sports soccer tomorrow night. 1744 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,479 Speaker 7: Will thee FC Cincinnati back in MLS play at the 1745 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 7: New York or the Red Bulls New York? 1746 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Would you pinch it a little bit on midday the 1747 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 1: nine or between me and Sloany, would you pinch it? 1748 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 4: No? 1749 01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,720 Speaker 1: All right? Please continue? What because I always said, Mike 1750 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: love because it gets tired to get up at three 1751 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,240 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. People forget I'm the one prepared. 1752 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: So it's not the problem with doing the show. But 1753 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 1: you got it. There's a lot of print by Tom 1754 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,759 Speaker 1: Brandiman at this point. No, I'm not. Now they're bigger, bigger, 1755 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Oh what's my word? Bigger offends? Who are you talking to? 1756 01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Never man, say thanks Mike, thanks for coming in coming 1757 01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 1: any time. But I am here everybody. I'm calling Frank 1758 01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,760 Speaker 1: Ziebelt immediately say give me a Frank. I think the 1759 01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: last newscast of Jack Crumley's either at three or three thirty. Well, 1760 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,519 Speaker 1: the hotstick around for the big part. We've got dancing 1761 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,920 Speaker 1: girls and bears and everything gotta have to have pure 1762 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: of all coming in will be Jack Crumley day. He 1763 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of you know, in the city of Cincinnati. I 1764 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,680 Speaker 1: lucked in. Huh you did, Zac Man? Give me out 1765 01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,880 Speaker 1: of Stoo's report, Willian Hotter of Jack Crumbley and. 1766 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 7: My legend a newsman, Jack Grumble, Jack crumb Jack Crumbley, 1767 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,000 Speaker 7: and I leave you. 1768 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Listen to Jack Anderson. 1769 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,040 Speaker 7: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report. 1770 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,280 Speaker 1: Next week's highway patrols to a very unusual one. I 1771 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,760 Speaker 1: hope you'll be with us until then. Remember it isn't 1772 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 1: the car that kills, it's the driver. This is Brederick 1773 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 1: Crawford saying see you next week on seven hundred WLW