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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome in. It's CINC three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to our friends it's

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Speaker 3: Skyline Chili. More importantly, thank you for joining us on

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Speaker 3: what is I believe one of the best days of

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Speaker 3: the calendar year, the first day of the NC DOUBLEA Tournament.

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Speaker 3: Action standing by to get underway in just a few moments.

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Speaker 3: It is TCU in Ohio State will be the first

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Speaker 3: game of the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. And it's a good

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Speaker 3: one right now. Ohio State just a point and a

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Speaker 3: half favorite. There it is.

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Speaker 4: Come on, I saw somebody say this, I wish you

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Speaker 4: could take the feeling of Thursday morning and bottle it

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Speaker 4: up ahead of the NCAA Tournament, and I agree. Like

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Speaker 4: I've said many times, I'm not the biggest college basketball fan.

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Speaker 4: I don't go out of my way to watch it,

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Speaker 4: but I do appreciate the collective excitement.

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Speaker 3: From the country.

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Speaker 4: Today is that today is and it does make me

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Speaker 4: lean into it a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm fired up that Ohio State's gonna lead him off

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Speaker 4: up against TCU Bruce Thornton.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, let's douce Thornton's way waited a while.

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Speaker 3: It's it's i think appropriate that he gets to kick

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Speaker 3: things off. Yeah, it's a good thing. That will be

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Speaker 3: a all out slugfest. I think if you've watched it

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Speaker 4: This year, you think Andy Dalton's gonna watch He's gotta

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Speaker 4: be on his way to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: He's probably gonna be there in Greenville.

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Speaker 4: Andy got traded yesterday to the Philadelphia Eagles, which is

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Speaker 4: kind of who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 3: You could still do that. Oh of course you can still.

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Speaker 3: Can you sign guys right now? Yeah that's possible as well.

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Speaker 3: You could trade guys right now. Yes, okay, so shut down, yes, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to I'm used to what's happening right

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Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati. I thought things were completely shut down.

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Speaker 4: It's it reminds me of that quote from Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 4: when he was the head coach of the Packers and

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Speaker 4: somebody asked him, what's the trade deadline like around here?

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Speaker 4: And he said the trade deadline? Huh, when is that right?

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Speaker 4: And they're like, it's this week because I thought it

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Speaker 4: He goes, that's what it's like around here. That's that's

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Speaker 4: what I feel like is going on in Cincinnati down

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Speaker 3: Today also takes me back to this time in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four and it still hangs in this studio where

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Speaker 3: you once said, Austin about your brackets. Yeah, everybody usually

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Speaker 3: picks somebody, It's true, and that that's the stands spot

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Speaker 3: the line in this studio today speaking of people pilling

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Speaker 3: out your brackets, everybody usually picks somebody.

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Speaker 4: Three and eighty six people wow, joined the Tony Pikes

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Speaker 4: since e three to six record for a challenge. Now

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Speaker 4: you technically still have twelve minutes. Yes, if you can

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Speaker 4: get on and fill out a bracket in twelve minutes,

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Speaker 4: you can still do so. And I know that that

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Speaker 4: We've got a list of you know, some of our

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Speaker 4: friends that have joined up and done the bracket this year.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this our old Friend the Zebra, Elliott Rearing, Yes,

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Speaker 4: James Rapine, Wow, PJ Street, Tommy g Keegan, Nickoson, Rick

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Speaker 4: Browing looking for oeger Our buddy Andrew Fox Miller from

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals Talk course, Connor Lamon's covering the Ohio State Buckeyes,

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Speaker 4: Charlie Goldsmith, Jeff Carr, Alex Frank remember him, Jeremy Row,

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Speaker 4: Richard Skinner, Paul Fritzchner, Joe Danoman. They've all submitted brackets

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Speaker 4: and you have about ten minutes to do so Dayla

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Speaker 4: Sugar Bowl TP. Yeah, I don't know what some of

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Speaker 4: these are starting to not make a sense. I did

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Speaker 4: see Mario carl Maline at the loan. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: And Michael Boston, who is a great follow for UC fans,

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Speaker 4: he said, can you see my nip wow?

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Speaker 3: Wow, listen in the next ten minutes?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 3: If we could get fourteen more, can you have four

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Speaker 3: hundred people in a bracket? Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Joe Daneman's bracket name is Joe d yeat nice.

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Speaker 3: I don't know did Jeremy rowd get in because he

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Speaker 4: He did Jeremis is in there. Okay, his is just

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Speaker 4: Jeremy are okay? I respect that simplicity of it. I

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Speaker 3: Here's what we got coming up today, because we're not

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Speaker 3: us at one o'clock. Keegan nickoson with the latest on

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Speaker 3: the UC basketball head coaching search. And maybe we'll ask

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Speaker 3: Kegan what's going on with Indiana as well, because didn't

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Speaker 3: on that roster. Bob man Jean, University of Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: novacare let's talk about quick turnarounds. We've seen this already

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Speaker 3: it in the second. SMU one of their better players.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of that, Austin? Did you see

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Speaker 3: that storyline? So SMU was essentially the last team picked

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Speaker 3: in the NCUBA tournament. The selection committee reached out to

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Speaker 3: SMU about the availability of their players, and SMU said, oh,

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Speaker 3: and then the player doesn't play in last night's game.

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Speaker 3: We'll discuss that. But what goes into those decisions. Mikel

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Speaker 3: Brown Junior is not gonna play for Louisville today. What

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Speaker 4: Also, if if you're like the tournament committee, the selection committee,

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Speaker 4: what do you expect them to say? Correct, Nah, I

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately it happened, but not unfortunately at the hands of Miami,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think it really mattered last night. Who

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Speaker 4: And God love them, they were fearless, just cast in

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Speaker 4: And I'm at the point now where I'm rooting for

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine? I like what I liked most. It

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Speaker 3: kind of felt like Miami season in a nutshell last

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Speaker 3: like you said, Travis Steel and Miami had an answer

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Speaker 3: Every adjustment SMU made, they answered. And I thought last

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Speaker 3: night at different points of the game they defend it

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Miami who gets an NCAA tournament win

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Speaker 3: and they move on to play Tennessee. And let's just

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Speaker 3: call it what it is. You go make fifteen or

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Speaker 3: sixteen threes against anyone, you got a chance to win. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean that environment last night, Oh my gosh, it

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Speaker 4: and he texted me last night he said, this place

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Speaker 4: cool to see that. And hopefully one day UC will

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Speaker 3: It's something we'll spend more time discussing today.

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Speaker 4: He even heard from him. He's not in the bracket challenge.

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Speaker 4: Did he get a question?

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Speaker 3: Did he give up? He might have quit on basketball.

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Speaker 3: We'll put out the APB for Maso. We'll spend more

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Speaker 3: time as we go today on the NCAA tournament. Will

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Speaker 3: you on the world of the NFL and free agent

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Speaker 3: signings that have happened or trades that are still being made.

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Speaker 3: There are names of players you would recognize, whether president

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Speaker 3: NFL teams to trade draft picks five years into the

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Speaker 3: feel like teams would be much more have to say, sure,

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Speaker 3: Think a lot of teams will offer five years down

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Speaker 4: chance to get Jamar Chase Joe Burrow in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Now, can you do this real quick, because clearly our

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Speaker 3: him what we've said this all week? Can you tell

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Speaker 3: Not ain' not hard, not hard. Thanks for listening, though,

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Speaker 3: Maso and anyone else out there. You still got a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes to get in the the Sincy three

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Speaker 3: to sixty bracket challenge. What else we got today? Oh,

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Speaker 3: we're seven days away from Red's opening day. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to Charlie Goldsmith about all things Reds related, including Austin.

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Speaker 4: Tony loves Crocs. I've never, first of all, despised crocs. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Let's open up the phone lines to you today. You

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Speaker 3: Guys doing good? Hey man, that was a great game

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Speaker 7: That proves that Miami belongs yep, trust me. And then

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Speaker 10: Been there, but if you remember you guys coming.

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Speaker 7: I'm so proud of what Tramps has done up there

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Speaker 7: And I'll tell you what it couldn't It couldn't have.

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Speaker 10: Been a better night for them and watch outs Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: left field on opening day?

435
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Speaker 3: Really? Yeah?

436
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Speaker 4: Okay, if you Dane Meyers in center and left, Spencer

437
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: Steer and right, maybe Marte doesn't start that game because

438
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Speaker 4: he has had a rough sprige In is tough against lefties,

439
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Speaker 4: and maybe some defensive switches later on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that. Yeah, I'll take that. Ian.

441
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Speaker 3: What's going on?

442
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Speaker 2: All right?

443
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Speaker 14: Guys?

444
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Speaker 15: I make this quick because I know you're busy, but curiosity.

445
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Speaker 5: Has got me.

446
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Speaker 15: Man. Is there a world and at the end of

447
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Speaker 15: this your percentage of the chance that staring up the

448
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Speaker 15: defensive line with what minimal pickups they got, and then

449
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 15: the talent on the back end at safety that guys

450
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Speaker 15: like Demutri Night maybe like got a dealt kind of

451
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 15: like a rough hand and factor in like the stabilization

452
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Speaker 15: to the later point of the season, that at the

453
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Speaker 15: front of the fact that there's a chance that it

454
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Speaker 15: could be better than we think or if you guys,

455
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Speaker 15: it's just got me going nuts, man?

456
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Speaker 7: That did?

457
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Speaker 16: Yeah?

458
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Speaker 3: Ian, thank you for the call. I don't know, are

459
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Speaker 3: we undervaluing what they've done or what they have?

460
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Speaker 17: No?

461
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Speaker 4: I think we've valued it appropriately. These are guys that

462
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Speaker 4: can make everyone better, but it feels like it's not

463
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Speaker 4: enough because of how bad that unit collectively was.

464
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Speaker 3: That's what I keep going back to when.

465
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Speaker 4: Going up against good quarterbacks, like it's been pretty similar

466
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Speaker 4: the last couple of years that stretched towards the end

467
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Speaker 4: of the year. They haven't had the toughest quarterback competition

468
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Speaker 4: that they've been going up against. I don't think it's

469
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Speaker 4: crazy to think that those guys can improve and take

470
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Speaker 4: a year two leap. Hell I've said it over the

471
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Speaker 4: course of the offseason that I have no reason to

472
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Speaker 4: but I believe in Shamar Stewart taking a leap. And

473
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Speaker 4: if you believe in that, and you believe in in

474
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Speaker 4: one of the players that they draft having an impact

475
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Speaker 4: on day one, it's not crazy to think that they

476
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Speaker 4: can be a better defense. I worry about the depth

477
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 4: because somebody always gets hurt, and I worry about skill

478
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: sets for certain positions like Demetrius Knight Junior being on

479
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Speaker 4: the edge.

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Speaker 3: Is there anyone else on the defensive line that you

481
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Speaker 3: can see and say, Okay, maybe that person can take

482
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Speaker 3: another jump, maybe that person can take another step.

483
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Speaker 4: I now, this is not a popular opinion. I didn't

484
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Speaker 4: hate what I saw from McKinley Jackson in his limited

485
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Speaker 4: time last year. Okay, now he's the backup nose tackle,

486
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Speaker 4: so it's not like he's gonna play a ton t J.

487
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Speaker 4: Slayton wasn't horrible last year. He wasn't great. He was

488
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Speaker 4: just okay, and that's fine, and they might end up

489
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Speaker 4: keeping him. I thought McKinley Jackson specifically had some good

490
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Speaker 4: moments against the run. He was far from perfect, but

491
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Speaker 4: he had some good moments against the run. Yeah, I

492
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Speaker 4: don't know that. I look at him and be like,

493
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Speaker 4: all right, this is the guy. He's gonna he's gonna

494
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Speaker 4: take a huge step for us this year. I wouldn't

495
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Speaker 4: say that. I mean the guy requested to be traded

496
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Speaker 4: last year. So I'd put it at a twenty percent

497
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Speaker 4: chance that they are all top together, top to bottom,

498
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Speaker 4: all together a better deep.

499
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Speaker 3: Okay, I can ride with that. I can ride with that.

500
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Speaker 3: One more. Here, let's grab a break after that, Mike,

501
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Speaker 3: what's going on? How are you.

502
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Speaker 2: Well?

503
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Speaker 7: Hell, it's one of the best days of the year

504
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Speaker 7: in my opinion, So I'm all jack.

505
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Speaker 3: Doesn't get any better.

506
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Speaker 7: No, but it's really funny you guys are working them,

507
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 7: ain't got indicative of this bigger March madness fan.

508
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Speaker 3: Well, Mo officially worked. MO just did a show from

509
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Speaker 3: ten to noon.

510
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 7: Well yeah, I mean he only told me, wasn't that show?

511
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So from three to six, I mean MO won't.

512
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Speaker 3: Mo won't probably remember much of.

513
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Speaker 4: So he basically got an hour off today's But he

514
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 4: was smart.

515
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Speaker 3: He got his work done before the game started. That's

516
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Speaker 3: the smart part.

517
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Speaker 7: Hey, Just a quick REDS note. You were talking about,

518
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 7: you know, spring training. That's why they call it spring training, folks.

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 7: That's why they're putting these guys around in different positions.

520
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 7: As to what you just said, Tony, they have to

521
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 7: start getting an idea who can do what where in

522
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Speaker 7: an emergency situation. So sure, that's why it's spring training.

523
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 7: They're training different were throwing different pitches on it.

524
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Speaker 3: Does it ever get to a point in spring training

525
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Speaker 3: know where you would you would over or underreact based

526
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Speaker 3: on how someone's performing.

527
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, everybody, yeah, yeah, Oh that's common that that's

528
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Speaker 7: what we do, right that. You know, Oh my god,

529
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 7: mcclen he might win the batting title. Probably not, but you.

530
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Speaker 9: Know what I mean.

531
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Speaker 7: But it's just a natural instinct because you're excited about

532
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Speaker 7: your team, and then if the guy blows, you're going,

533
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 7: oh man, this dude, maybe they shouldn't even what isn't

534
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 7: bunk on the team, you know, And it all turns

535
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 7: out opposite of what you think it's going to be. Statifically,

536
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 7: I think, uh. But the one thing that's a little

537
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 7: different this year for the Reds is this Pittsburgh team

538
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 7: is much better. Instead of worrying about looking up at

539
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 7: the Cubs and up at the Brewers, if you're not

540
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 7: pretty good, you're going to be looking up at the

541
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Speaker 7: Pirates as well. So this division is tougher. The only

542
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 7: ones in Dogs is Saint Louis, so it's a tougher

543
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Speaker 7: division for the Reds to compete in this year in

544
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Speaker 7: my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is obviously, in my opinion, a

546
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: sizable gap between Saint Louis and the rest of the division.

547
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Speaker 3: But I think there is a much smaller gap between

548
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Speaker 3: the Reds, the Pirates, the Brewers and the Cubs this

549
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: year than in years past. I think those four can

550
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: be bunched up pretty close. I think they separate from

551
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. But outside of that, I think it's a

552
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: it is and will be a very good division.

553
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Speaker 7: Well I hope it's a good We just hope it's

554
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 7: a fun, good race. That's all we're asking for. Reds.

555
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 7: Just get me something to cheer for the last week

556
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Speaker 7: of the damn year.

557
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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 7: Okay, basketball, real quick, I'm afraid to say that. You know,

559
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 7: most of our local teams are still in that bottom

560
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 7: bracket on the Midwest Region. So Kentucky you're out of here.

561
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 7: First round, Wright State, you're out of here. Uh. The

562
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 7: only team Miami, sorry to say you're out of here.

563
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 7: Tennessee is going to be cha. The only team I

564
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 7: see left is my buck. Guys may win today, I hope,

565
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 7: but within a reasona we'll drive you distance assistance. Cincinnati

566
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 7: the only team I see coming out of that that

567
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 7: that may do something as Akron, that's the only team

568
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Speaker 7: I see.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the will forget it the Achron matchup

570
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: just because Texas Tech. They once they lost Topping, they

571
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: went on a little bit of a run. But I

572
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: think teams have now adjusted to how they play without Topping,

573
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: which makes them much more beatable. But other than that, yeah,

574
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Speaker 3: I mean it, it's gonna be Louisville's an uphill battle.

575
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Speaker 3: Kentucky would be an uphill battle. Right State obviously is

576
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Speaker 3: a fourteen seed in Virginia is a very good team

577
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: that I think not a lot of people are talking

578
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: about it. Is it it's it's a little bit disappointing

579
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: in that sense, but you never know. I mean that

580
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: that's why it's march madness. Maybe you get one of

581
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: these teams that that plays the right way at the

582
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: right time and can make a little bit of a run.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. How far is I know FORDUS in India? And

584
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 7: how how far away from Cincinnati is Purdue? What town

585
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 7: is that him?

586
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: Was that West Laytte, West Lafayette, East Love, I don't know.

587
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: It's probably four hours.

588
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's an northern northern Indiana that yeah, Okay,

589
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 7: so that's kind of a local.

590
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: I ain't taking Purdue. I ain't accepted them. Might be

591
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: closer than Akron, I don't know.

592
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 7: Yah. Yeah, Hey, Tony, remember at the beginning of the year,

593
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 7: you and I both agree that that point guard for

594
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Speaker 7: uh Smith from Purdue, we said he was one of

595
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Speaker 7: the best guards in the country. And he hasn't done

596
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 7: anything to change my mind about that.

597
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: No, this time of the year as well. I know

598
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: it's cliche, but but you you're going to go as

599
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: far as your point guard play once you get to

600
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Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament, and I think all of those top

601
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: seeds they have that. But but that's certainly something, certainly

602
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: that that Purdue has with Smith, a guy that can.

603
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 3: I think he's the all time leader and assist obviously

604
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: at Purdue. He's in top five all time in college basketball.

605
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: But he can also score it as well, and he

606
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: doesn't turn the ball over.

607
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Speaker 4: Acron is three and and half hours away, Perdue is

608
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: three hours.

609
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'll be darn Austin. He's on it.

610
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Speaker 4: That's based off of current traffic conditions. So who knows.

611
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: You get her on a good day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I just want you guys to know I really

613
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 7: appreciate you being there on a big day like this,

614
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 7: and thank you from the bottom of my heart. Have

615
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 7: a great time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. We appreciate you. We won't be here tomorrow,

617
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Speaker 3: but that's because of Kentucky basketball. Anyway, We'll take a break,

618
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Speaker 3: let's come back, let's switch gears a little bit. I

619
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Speaker 3: know we're gonna be a lot of basketball today. With

620
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Speaker 3: what's going on, but the moves that have been made

621
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Speaker 3: throughout the week in the National Football League, and some

622
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: former Bengals names pop up as well. Do We'll dive

623
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Speaker 3: into that for a few moments. We'll grab more phone

624
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Speaker 3: calls along the way. Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. When you jump on the.

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Speaker 16: Back of it, friends, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Since e three sixty thanks to Skyline Chile. On this

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Speaker 3: beautiful Thursday, the first day of the NCAA tournament. We

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Speaker 3: got a problem in here. What's happening? My screen says,

630
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Speaker 3: I'm buffering too. What's going on? Not only that, my like,

631
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Speaker 3: my screen's not working right? This a coordinated attack? Oh man,

632
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: how could they?

633
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Speaker 4: I mean, you want to talk about a way to

634
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: piss off Americans?

635
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: Not today?

636
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: Start Tony basketball today. Unbelievable. Not good, not good at all.

637
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: It's been very quiet since the initial free agency surge

638
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: here in Cincinnati. But it goes without saying that there

639
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: have been other moves that have been made across the

640
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: National Football League that have also happened this week. How

641
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 4: about former Bengal cam Taylor britt earlier in the week

642
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: reunites with Louianna Rumo and the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, you

643
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: think there's anything left for Cam Taylor Britt. He's still

644
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: so young. It would be foolish, I feel like to say. Otherwise,

645
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: you hope that there's a development of the frontal lobe

646
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 4: for Cam Taylor Britt and he starts to figure some

647
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Speaker 4: stuff out. I think he would be foolish to give

648
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: up on him. He's an athlete, an incredible athlete. He's

649
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: obviously shown the ability to play the position in the NFL.

650
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: It just feels like maybe I had run its course here. Yeah,

651
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Speaker 4: and he goes back to a system where he might

652
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Speaker 4: be a little bit more comfortable with Louianna Rumo and

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Speaker 4: has a chance to maybe get back into free agency

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Speaker 4: next year.

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Speaker 3: Some other things that have happened, and I think one

656
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Speaker 3: to watch out for. You know, the Ravens lost a

657
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Speaker 3: lot of their tight end group this offseason. Do you

658
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Speaker 3: see yesterday that David and Joku visited the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I did see that. What do you think is that fit?

660
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Speaker 4: Possibly for the Ravens. It makes a lot of sense

661
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Speaker 4: for them. I mean, they're obviously they've lost Isaiah likely.

662
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Speaker 4: I think he joined Harball. I love the tight end position. Yeah,

663
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Speaker 4: I mean they love that. Obviously, the amount in David

664
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Speaker 4: and Joku is no stranger to an offense that loves

665
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Speaker 4: to run it when he was with Kevin Stefanski and Cleveland.

666
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Speaker 4: I think that's a good fit for them. And obviously

667
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Speaker 4: Todd Munkin is leaving Baltimore to go to Cleveland. I

668
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Speaker 4: think the offense, you know, is kind of similar with

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Speaker 4: what they're trying to establish with Jesse Minter. Yeah, you

670
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Speaker 4: mentioned part of that Horrorball tree. Yeah, you mentioned Andy

671
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Speaker 4: Dalton to the Philadelphia Phillies. What about what about the Eagles? Yeah,

672
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Speaker 4: that would be pretty impressive for him to done.

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Speaker 3: Surprise me he could do it. Uh what about this?

674
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Speaker 3: Because this was a name? Was it you or someone else?

675
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Speaker 3: A couple a week or so ago that said King

676
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Speaker 3: Davis Gaither was essentially be back on the Bengals.

677
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Speaker 4: I said, I wouldn't be opposed to that. He is

678
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Speaker 4: with the Colts. Ye, Colts have signed a Keen Davis Gaither.

679
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Speaker 4: That's another linebacker off the board. There's would be uh,

680
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Speaker 4: there will be uh no reuniting with the Bengals for

681
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Speaker 4: Logan Wilson Logan Wilson yesterday announced his retirement from the

682
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Speaker 4: since from the National Football League. Obviously, thank the Cincinnati

683
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Speaker 4: Bengals and the game of football, but Logan Wilson retiring

684
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Speaker 4: from the National Football League any other moves over the

685
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Speaker 4: last week? Oh, Tyson Anderson is no longer a Bengal.

686
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Speaker 3: That's right, signed with the Denver Broncos. Do the Bengals

687
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Speaker 3: have enough in the secondary? What is the plan in

688
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Speaker 3: the secondary? Can somebody help? How do they filled the

689
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Speaker 3: dead chart?

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Speaker 4: They're going to draft a corner? Okay, sure, they'll probably

691
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Speaker 4: draft another safety, so that'll be part of it. And

692
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Speaker 4: you might be looking for you, you know, your guy

693
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Speaker 4: at the beginning of training camp, the Noah fense, the

694
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Speaker 4: Dalton Reisner type of signing that we've seen them make

695
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Speaker 4: in the past.

696
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Speaker 3: Now, speaking of announcements, did see the announcement? I believe

697
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Speaker 3: yesterday Eric Hall is good to go. You see that

698
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: tweet from Eric Hall? Yep, so we got Eric Hall.

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Speaker 3: What is the have we forgot about the impact that

700
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Speaker 3: Eric All could have on this team? Because when he

701
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: was available people were raving about Eric All.

702
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Speaker 4: I think we've been dismissive of it because he's got

703
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Speaker 4: an injury history. Yeah, and until you prove that you

704
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: can stay on the field consistently, I don't think it's

705
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Speaker 4: really under consideration.

706
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Other than that, nothing major that's happened in the

707
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Speaker 3: National Football League, especially here in Cincinnati, it has been

708
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Speaker 3: abnormally quiet as the weeks go by, and today we're

709
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Speaker 3: wrapping up a week for us here on since he

710
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Speaker 3: three to sixty, does your off season grade of the

711
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: Bengals go down as the weeks pass and they don't

712
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Speaker 3: address the needs that they have. It's been what it is. Okay,

713
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: it's not good, so I say so, it's going to

714
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Speaker 3: be that until the draft we think, yeah, all right, Yeah,

715
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Speaker 3: it's just it's I think that the term I've come

716
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Speaker 3: up with the most is underwhelming. Underwhelming on many fronts,

717
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: and I think more so underwhelming this year because we

718
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 3: heard more from Duke Tobin than we have in the past,

719
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Speaker 3: and what we heard from Duke Tobin doesn't necessarily match

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Speaker 3: what this team has done.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, I said it at the time, what

722
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: he's doing is setting himself up for more criticism if

723
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Speaker 4: they don't do what he says they're going to do.

724
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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what we're experiencing right now. We see

725
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 4: better than we hear attack the off season, the resources

726
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Speaker 4: to attack the off season. I know Moe and Skinny

727
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 4: and them talked about a little bit earlier. Is Skinny

728
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: had asked Al Golden at the combine directly, do you

729
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: want and do you need another linebacker? And Al Golden

730
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: said yes, He's like, I need this type of player

731
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: that can do this well, and do this well, and

732
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Speaker 4: do this well. And the Bengals didn't get that player,

733
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Speaker 4: and you know, much like things eventually frayed and cracked

734
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Speaker 4: with lu Ayna Rumo and the Bengals personnel department to

735
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Speaker 4: where he ends up getting fired. This is the type

736
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Speaker 4: of stuff that will fray a relationship with a guy

737
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Speaker 4: like Al Golden.

738
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

739
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Speaker 4: And this is why I asked the question of James yesterday.

740
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: Is there a point where coaches start to feel animosity

741
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Speaker 4: toward ownership and towards the personnel department? And James is

742
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: right that the line is tricky, right because Mike does

743
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: have a say, and Katie has a say, and Elizabeth

744
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: has a say and all of that and however you

745
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: feel about that doesn't matter. The fact of the matter

746
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 4: is they do, and that has an impact on Duke

747
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: Tobin and his staff, on Zach and his staff, and

748
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: so on. And when the coaches who are the ones

749
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Speaker 4: who are hands on with these players and are doing

750
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: the x's and o's in the scheme and trying to

751
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 4: put the guys on the field to be successful, don't

752
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 4: have the tools that they need, You're going to create animosity,

753
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: a disconnect somewhere along the line between the front office

754
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Speaker 4: and the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: And that's not going to be a good thing.

756
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Speaker 2: No.

757
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Speaker 3: Like I said, the longer it goes, the more that

758
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Speaker 3: line is severed going forward. Speaking of severed, is the

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: internet connection severed in this building? I don't know is

760
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: your TV working? No? I got nothing in here. I

761
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: do have score updates as we get ready to go

762
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Speaker 3: to break TCU a twenty three to seventeen lead over

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Speaker 3: the Ohio State Buckeyes. That game has six minutes to

764
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Speaker 3: go in the first half. And how about the quick

765
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: start for the men of Troy Austin a nine to

766
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Speaker 3: six lead over Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear Do you know where Troy is? No?

768
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: Where is it Alabama?

769
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Speaker 3: Did you hear it? All the the Troy guard being

770
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 3: interviewed yesterday. No. Yeah, he said that they have a

771
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: mantra on the team that they don't take the elevator

772
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: or escalators anywhere, so campus hotels that they travel they

773
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: take the stairs because that translates to the court with

774
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: a toughness in a mindset. Stupid to be dune when

775
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: they when their legs wear down in the second half

776
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Speaker 3: today because they didn't ride the elevator up to t Hotel.

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Speaker 3: Troy's got an early lead. TCU's got an early lead.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back to finish up Hour number one, next, five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

779
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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincy three sixty thanks to our friends at

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Speaker 3: Skyline Chili on the home of the Bengals, the ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station wcklon I can't welcome back

782
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: it is since he three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty

783
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks for joining us. Charlie Goldsmith joins

784
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Speaker 3: us in just a few minutes, one day ahead of

785
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: his normally scheduled Friday appearance because Kentucky basketball happens tomorrow

786
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: at twelve thirty, meaning we don't have a show, so

787
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: we'll get Charlie on at the top of the hour.

788
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Before we get to that, let's grab one more phone

789
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: call here, John, what's going on? How are you? What's

790
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: up John? John? Maybe we don't have John, Maybe we

791
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: don't have connection to anything. Maybe we don't. I've got

792
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: zero internet in this room right now. Worst day possible

793
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Speaker 3: for this to happen.

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Speaker 4: I got, I got the buck. Guys up on the iPad.

795
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Speaker 4: They're down four, okay, with five thirty to go.

796
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Speaker 3: Okay.

797
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Speaker 4: I don't know what else is going on with the

798
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Speaker 4: other stuff, but we uh, I know that. Okay, Let's

799
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Speaker 4: try John and Boston again. Let's let's see if John

800
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Speaker 4: in Boston works this time. John, we're back, Okay, Hello.

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Speaker 18: Okay, you know, don't give a sixty two year old

802
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 18: guy an iPhone if you get kind of dangerous.

803
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: I want to put Ian's mind at ease.

804
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Speaker 18: I know he called about a half hour ago, wanted

805
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 18: some hope for the Bengals defense. And I just looked

806
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 18: back at the numbers from last year, and I think

807
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 18: the free agency signings have been good.

808
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Speaker 13: That Ea, the linebacker.

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Speaker 18: Maybe Bobby Wagner is an ouption, although he's you know,

810
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 18: almost as old as I am. But when you look

811
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Speaker 18: back at the final eight games last year, the Bengal

812
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 18: gave up one hundred and ninety two points. That's twenty

813
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 18: four points per game. But forty two of those points

814
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 18: came directly from turnovers.

815
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Speaker 2: By the offense.

816
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 18: Five pick sixes and one scooping score, so that's forty

817
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 18: two points. So in terms of defense, they gave up

818
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 18: one hundred and fifty points in the final eight games,

819
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 18: which is about eighteen point eight point per game. Sorry

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Speaker 18: for giving you guys a popsicle headich with all these numbers,

821
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Speaker 18: but I think it's just trending in the right direction.

822
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 18: And if he can get some year to jump from

823
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Speaker 18: you know Knight and Carter and obviously Shamar Stewart's the

824
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Speaker 18: big guy to go along with these free agent signings and.

825
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Speaker 2: Hit one or two drafts.

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Speaker 18: I think the defense can be good enough if you

827
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Speaker 18: I think in six of those last day games, guys,

828
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Speaker 18: they gave up the defense gave up less than twenty

829
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Speaker 18: points per game. You give up less than twenty points

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Speaker 18: per game, you should win with that offense.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, yeah, I think to me, like I agree

832
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Speaker 3: with Austin, I could see a jump for Shamar Stewart

833
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: because I saw some of that. I just didn't see

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Speaker 3: that with Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter, and maybe they do,

835
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Speaker 3: but I just I don't see it yet. I didn't

836
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Speaker 3: see signs of it as much in year number one,

837
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Speaker 3: and I think there are there are those as well.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the schedule. As that stretch run

839
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Speaker 3: was made, the competition the quarterbacks you played obviously dropped

840
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Speaker 3: a little bit as well, So I think there's a

841
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: lot of variables that go into it. I think individually

842
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: they made three moves on the defensive side that should help.

843
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: I just feel like there's more meat on the bone.

844
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Speaker 3: I think overall for this this defense, he is.

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Speaker 18: A novel idea. It's never really happened. Maybe it has,

846
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Speaker 18: and I can't remember. Were well trading up in the draft.

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Speaker 18: I mean there's number ten, and it almost feels like

848
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Speaker 18: they're going to miss out on some really good players

849
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Speaker 18: at number ten. Move up to number five or six,

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Speaker 18: give that team your first round pick and whatever it

851
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Speaker 18: takes to jump up on the draft, because it almost

852
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Speaker 18: feels like it's a nine player draft than when you

853
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Speaker 18: get the ten. Now you're starting to reach for position.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they they're literally on the outside looking in. By

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Speaker 3: probably one or two spots. What it cost? You know,

856
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Speaker 3: does it cost number ten? And maybe a six round pick?

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Speaker 3: I would do that if it meant getting a Sonny

858
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Speaker 3: Styles or an RVL Reese or a Reuben Bain Junior,

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Speaker 3: I would do that in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, or Jeremiah Love Yeah, I'm with James Rapeen on

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Speaker 18: that one. Sure be fantastic. That'd be a nice tour

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Speaker 18: to have. On offense, Guys, enjoy the tournament. And if

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00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 18: there's any technical issues going on in Ohio, it's gonna

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Speaker 18: be brucet pro fault.

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Speaker 3: It is is up to something. This is an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 10: Thank you John, Thank you fellows.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Have a great weekend, all right standing by.

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Speaker 3: gonna bump sincey three sixty tomorrow. But we're not gonna

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Speaker 3: has been nice enough to move up to today as

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Speaker 3: we kick off our number two. Joining us right now,

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Speaker 3: our good friend Charlie Goldsmith. Charlie, how you doing doing great?

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Speaker 20: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys? How's your bracket looking? Early on? Charlie perfect?

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Speaker 20: Or you know, I wasn't gonna do one this year

889
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 20: and the Sincy three sixty bracket challenges? What got me in?

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00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: You?

891
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: The second person to say that, Rick Browing said that earlier.

892
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: Believe it or not.

893
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: Rick Brooring said he hasn't filled out a bracket in

894
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Speaker 4: five years until today, So thankful.

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Speaker 20: I'm similar. It's like the same reason I don't play

896
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 20: fantasy football, but I'm happy and hope that everyone else

897
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Speaker 20: doing that has fun.

898
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Speaker 3: How much of it has to do with the fact

899
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Speaker 3: that you just can't write the Bearcat's name on a line.

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Speaker 20: Something felt missing in the first for you know, no

901
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 20: Cincinnati knows, Xavier, I guess you had Miami or presenting

902
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 20: the Tristate area. And I look forward to seeing UC

903
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 20: back where they're supposed.

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Speaker 3: To be before we get into it. Some reds who

905
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Speaker 3: cuts down the nets for you at the end of

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Speaker 3: the tournament.

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Speaker 20: Wow, I think Arizona is just Arizona reminds me of

908
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 20: the Big East teams that I grew up watching and

909
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 20: that scratches that nostalgic itch for me. And they're really good.

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Speaker 20: So I'm going with the Wildcats.

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Speaker 21: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The latest from spring training yesterday we saw Brady Singer

913
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Speaker 3: with the blister, and obviously you don't want to make

914
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Speaker 3: a big deal about blisters, but when you're already going

915
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Speaker 3: to be without Hunter Green and there were questions around

916
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Speaker 3: Chase Burns earlier in the week, everything is a big

917
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Speaker 3: deal right now for this pitching staff. Does it feel

918
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Speaker 3: like something that is serious for this team or something

919
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Speaker 3: that's just more precautionary.

920
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Speaker 20: The real answer to that question, I won't know, and

921
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Speaker 20: they won't know until Brady's back in the building tomorrow

922
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Speaker 20: and they sit down with them now. Brady's speaking postgame,

923
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Speaker 20: and then Terry Francona speaking post game kind of had

924
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 20: an optimistic lens, like the blister didn't pop, it was precautious,

925
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 20: all that kind of stuff. I think a sneaky story

926
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Speaker 20: from yesterday too, is that in the other split Squad game,

927
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Speaker 20: the one I was at, Chase Burns only went two

928
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Speaker 20: plus innings, got up to around fifty pitches, but after

929
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Speaker 20: he had the d load day, he didn't necessarily get

930
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Speaker 20: in as deep to the next game as he wanted

931
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Speaker 20: to just because of how the game went. So that'll

932
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Speaker 20: probably have Burns around I guess eighty to ninety pitches

933
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Speaker 20: on opening day, but not as built up as you'd

934
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Speaker 20: want in theory and all of this, you know, moving pieces, chess,

935
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Speaker 20: you know all this stuff going on. It's like the

936
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Speaker 20: matrix or something trying to puzzle together how exactly this

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Speaker 20: pitching plan is going to work as they get into

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Speaker 20: the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wrote about the condensed six man rotation. Why

940
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Speaker 4: did they decide to do it that way?

941
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Speaker 20: I think the most important thing is it gets the

942
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Speaker 20: best thirteen guys roster, so it gives them a better

943
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Speaker 20: shot to beat the Pirates without sacrificing development, because Burns,

944
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Speaker 20: Louder and Williamson are all going to stay on five

945
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Speaker 20: day routines. Now I could tell you how it's gonna

946
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Speaker 20: work through the first week. I'm deep into the spreadsheets

947
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Speaker 20: trying to figure out how the heck it's going to

948
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Speaker 20: look after that. Honestly, I've got nothing right now, and

949
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Speaker 20: I know it won't last into the middle of April.

950
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Speaker 20: It'll probably be determined by just assuming everyone stays healthy.

951
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Speaker 20: How these guys look, how deep these guys are going

952
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Speaker 20: into games when they need to make a roster move,

953
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Speaker 20: to add something to the bullpen if they needed a

954
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Speaker 20: fresh arm one day. So you know, as we've kind

955
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Speaker 20: of established that first Pirate series, you'll, I would guess,

956
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Speaker 20: see Burns and Williamson on Monday, and then Louder starting

957
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Speaker 20: on Tuesday, and then we'll see after that. And I

958
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Speaker 20: don't think anything's settings.

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Speaker 3: So I do wonder because and we can have this conversation.

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Speaker 3: We will, we'll talk about Matt McClain. But it's the

961
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Speaker 3: constant back and forth of spring training. It gets long

962
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Speaker 3: and drawn out, and you wonder, Okay, how much are

963
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Speaker 3: guys working on stuff as opposed to how much our guys,

964
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of trying to find to what they

965
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Speaker 3: need to do. And I think as Opening day gets closer,

966
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Speaker 3: you start to wonder that more and more. And I

967
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Speaker 3: asked that now because without Hunter Green on opening Day,

968
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Speaker 3: we look at Andrew Abbot and over thirteen innings in

969
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Speaker 3: the spring, Charlie, he's given up twenty four hits and

970
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: twenty earned runs. Is there anything about Andrew Abbot right

971
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: now in spring training that worries you about carrying over

972
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Speaker 3: into the regular season because we're now so close to

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Speaker 3: Opening Day.

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Speaker 20: I think you get different opinions asking different people on this.

975
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Speaker 20: My opinion right now is going to be not really

976
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Speaker 20: because the mistakes that I'm latching onto, you know what's

977
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Speaker 20: led to his struggles have been focused related. They've been walks,

978
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Speaker 20: and they've been pitches that are mistakes that he just

979
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Speaker 20: left right over the middle of the plate. I just

980
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 20: don't think that's Andrew's game. I think that's just more

981
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 20: spring training stuff. But he's not, you know, getting a

982
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 20: zip with the fastball and the rise that you'd want

983
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 20: to see from him. The spin isn't getting these big

984
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 20: awkward swings like maybe you'd want to showcase some upside

985
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 20: in the spring. So you know, maybe I take this

986
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 20: back in a week or two of Andrew struggles, but

987
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 20: as of right now, I think it's just more spring

988
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 20: training stuff. But I can't give you a firm you know,

989
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 20: I can't say anything right now, though it make you

990
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 20: feel a whole lot better with how it's looked.

991
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Speaker 3: Should I have to curb my excitement for Matt McClain

992
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: with his long pants and his five forty five batting

993
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: average through spring training because it's just the spring.

994
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Speaker 20: There is truly tangible, real stuff with Matt McClain, with

995
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 20: his process, with his pitch selection, with the way his

996
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 20: batpath coincides with low and a Wyte sliders like I

997
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 20: talked with a bunch of people about this over the

998
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Speaker 20: last week, including McLain, who says he's generated real confidence

999
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 20: from this because for the first time he can see

1000
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Speaker 20: some stuff that he worked on all off season a

1001
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 20: lot like actually working implemented, Like he is feeling process

1002
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Speaker 20: oriented goals be or succeed in a way that he

1003
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Speaker 20: wasn't able to last year. So for those reasons, I

1004
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 20: think there's a lot that is real with Matt McClean

1005
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 20: and now he's looked this spring, and the Reds obviously

1006
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Speaker 20: feel that way. As whole hit second.

1007
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Speaker 4: Four, I feel like it's almost been a quiet spring

1008
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 4: for Ellie de la Cruz.

1009
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like that's the case?

1010
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you're there every day, and not to

1011
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: say that quiet is a bad thing, but how do

1012
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: would you assess up until this point with a week

1013
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: to go, the spring that Ellie de la Cruz has had.

1014
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 20: He had that one monster right handed swing that was

1015
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 20: kind of the only like wow, crazy Ellie moment that

1016
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 20: usually you know, generates all that buzz from a mistakes perspective.

1017
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 20: I can only remember one air, so that's good. It's

1018
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 20: not like he's struggled defensively, because that's something you talk

1019
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 20: about talking to the Reds about Ellie. What it is is,

1020
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 20: what this season's just going to be is not continued

1021
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 20: evolution and balance of swinging at the right pitches and

1022
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 20: strike zone judgment and balancing that with a greater on

1023
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 20: being more dangerous, having that aggressive mindset and balancing and

1024
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 20: wang and going back and forth between those two things.

1025
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 20: When you'll need mourned they that aggressive, dangerous mode, when

1026
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 20: do you need to reel it in a bit. That's

1027
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 20: just going to be a process LI goes through all year,

1028
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 20: and a process you can't even really see in spring training,

1029
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 20: so he's not really a spring training will tell you

1030
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 20: about guy right now. So there just hasn't been a

1031
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 20: lot to say about him.

1032
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: You mentioned yesterday JJ Bleday with a home run, Reshigins

1033
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: with a home run, resigns. You look at the statistical splits,

1034
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: he's had a very nice spring. Is that a roster

1035
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 3: battle that's shaping up and maybe one that we didn't

1036
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: take into account with resigns based on what he's done

1037
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: and the pressure maybe he's put on this organization.

1038
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 20: I view it as a three man battle between low,

1039
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 20: Bleday and Hines for one spot, and it comes down

1040
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 20: to kind of how you view theoretically these individual players.

1041
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 20: So let's start here. Let's start with the fact that

1042
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 20: I expect Marte to be the right fielder. I also

1043
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 20: think Benson deserves to play most day's verse right handed pitching.

1044
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 20: He's kind of a tenth man right now. That's a

1045
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 20: good place to be. Injuries will happen, the all get

1046
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 20: their chances, But because of that, you know, it's hard

1047
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 20: to get that twenty six man regular at bats, like

1048
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 20: if it's especially Blueday or Hines, like, you'd really have

1049
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 20: to force the issue to get them consistent playing time.

1050
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 20: So where are they at in their careers because they're

1051
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 20: both pretty young, they both legitimate upside players. Ideally they

1052
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 20: both keep playing every day or is this the stage

1053
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 20: where you know what, let's just shift them to being

1054
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 20: role players. They might not play every day, but they've

1055
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 20: got to kind of learn how to come off the

1056
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 20: bench because that's who they are. Like, do you need

1057
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 20: to keep playing them every day? And since that twenty

1058
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 20: six man won't play a ton, you give this spots

1059
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 20: a low and keep your organizational depth. I think Bla

1060
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 20: Day's probably the best of the three. Like if you

1061
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 20: just had to make a line of today, I have

1062
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 20: hitting the highest. But Heines man, he can play, like

1063
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 20: if you just gave Reese three hundred at bats to

1064
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 20: figur it out, which he's not gonna get with the

1065
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 20: Reds right now with how they're built, Like I think

1066
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 20: Hines would do pretty solid, especially because his defense hasn't

1067
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 20: proved over the last twelve months as much as anybody here.

1068
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 20: So like any of these guys would hit like fifth

1069
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 20: in the opening day lineup for the Reds anytime between

1070
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Speaker 20: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five, and the fact

1071
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 20: that they're competing for a spot. It's a good spot

1072
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 20: for the Reds to be right now.

1073
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Speaker 4: I want to go back to the condensed six man

1074
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 4: rotation and what the Reds are doing. I know you

1075
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 4: wrote that it's not gonna last very long, and I

1076
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 4: think you wrote or throughout the day April twentieth as

1077
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 4: a potential point for it, and Francona said before that

1078
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: why end it so quickly? Is there any explanation as

1079
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: to why it's such a short term thing and what

1080
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Speaker 4: the plan might be after that?

1081
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 20: It can really kill your bullpen if it really doesn't

1082
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 20: work out, so like if it's a day where you

1083
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 20: know you're already so you already just have seven relievers,

1084
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 20: and then if someone has a short start and there's

1085
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 20: a rain delay, and also most of your pitchers don't

1086
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 20: and have minor league options, like or you just don't

1087
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 20: want a option because like they're not going to option

1088
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 20: you know, one of their top guys. You get stuck

1089
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 20: pretty quickly, so they have off days they can use

1090
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 20: early in the season. You can kind of see how

1091
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 20: it plays out early in the season. But you kind

1092
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 20: of need that bullpen depth because we see it every year,

1093
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 20: you know, shuffling that eighth spot to get a fresh

1094
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 20: arm in. You'll have to do that twice as much

1095
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 20: if you only have seven arms and then a lot

1096
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 20: of these depth guys, you know mal Hagen Dan it

1097
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 20: would be one of the first guys up. He's not

1098
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 20: on a forty man, but he's out of options. So

1099
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 20: because the guys on the on the cusp of your

1100
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 20: bullpen don't have options, you probably run into a into

1101
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 20: a wall.

1102
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: Eventually. Seem like Sam Maul is going to be the

1103
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: last guy in that bullpen.

1104
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 20: Do you that would be my guess. It was actually

1105
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 20: really interesting, like nobody cares. But in November they could

1106
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 20: have non tendered him. Instead they guaranteed him a salary

1107
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 20: for this season. Not a big one, yeah, but notable

1108
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 20: for a guy who went during camp wasn't wasn't wasn't

1109
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 20: on my projected roster. They did it to kind of

1110
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 20: have that insurance, that depth. Also, they didn't have Rock

1111
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 20: Burke and Caleb ferguson yet, so at least you have

1112
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 20: one lefty on your Austar already. But again, that kind

1113
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 20: of reinforcement in case seeing how things play out in spring,

1114
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 20: and they put out that way because Ferguson unfortunately got hurt.

1115
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 20: So it turned out the decision to guaranteem all that

1116
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 20: salary in November paid off. Now he doesn't have options,

1117
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 20: but he looks He looks good when he's throwing strikes,

1118
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 20: and he's throwing more strikes recently, So it's him versus

1119
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 20: Maxwell for that last spot. I think Maul's lack of

1120
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 20: options nudges him up the board.

1121
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: Charlie, when everything went down with Hunter Green, I think

1122
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 3: there was a lot of folks that were just confused

1123
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: about the timeline and why this wasn't addressed when the

1124
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 3: off season got here, and how it worked when Hunter

1125
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: Green arrived back to spring training and he did speak

1126
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: earlier in the week, how much of that now has

1127
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: been cleared up in your opinion of why this decision

1128
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: was made in the off season verse now the surgery

1129
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: having to happen. How much did did Hunter Green clear

1130
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: up for you when he spoke earlier in the way.

1131
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 20: This is by far the most transparent Hunter's ever been

1132
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 20: about an injury. Like the groin injury last year. We

1133
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 20: never got a ton of solid exactly what was going

1134
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 20: on just from when he tweaked it again in July,

1135
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 20: and why he needed an extra rehab a start, and

1136
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 20: stuff like that. Like, meanwhile, Hunter now is showing us

1137
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 20: specifically his range of motion and talking about the recommendation

1138
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 20: he got from Elatrocia in October, and with that meant

1139
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 20: for the timeline. Like he went through every detail and

1140
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 20: I think if you listen to the to the whole

1141
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 20: eight minutes, it makes sense here and what he's coming from. Honestly,

1142
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 20: Like sincerely not to be too positive, but my reaction

1143
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 20: talking to Hunter was feeling better about the second half

1144
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 20: of Hunter season than I felt coming in. Literally him

1145
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 20: showing us the range of motion, the fact that it's

1146
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 20: just some tape over his elbow as opposed to any

1147
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 20: sort of brace or soft cast or anything like that.

1148
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 20: The idea that he and he talked about this the

1149
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 20: chips are removed, so like the issue was fixed, and

1150
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 20: then he kind of hinted at the idea of beating

1151
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 20: the timeline, so we'll see what happens. I don't think

1152
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 20: the Reds want him to rush it because of how

1153
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 20: important he is, but I felt better after seeing Hunter and.

1154
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: Talking to him. I agree with that. I said that

1155
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: the other day.

1156
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: Do you think that, like the way the narrative has

1157
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: maybe gone about him and his career has led to

1158
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: him being more transparent because I remember talking having a

1159
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,479
Speaker 4: conversation with Tony is like I wish more athletes would

1160
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 4: just be like, yeah, this is what happened, this is

1161
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 4: what I got fixed. Obviously, it's their prerogative what they

1162
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: want to share and not share. But do you think

1163
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: that the whole conversation around him kind of led to that?

1164
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 20: I don't know. I think Hunter is very aware of

1165
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 20: what he's putting out there, especially now leaning into putting

1166
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 20: more out there, even going back to the statement that

1167
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 20: he put out as soon as he got the final

1168
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 20: opinion from La Trush that led to this like there

1169
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 20: is this transparency' sat from an injury perspective that Hunter

1170
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 20: that honestly, I think we were getting from a baseball

1171
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 20: side and a mentality side too with Hunter before the injury,

1172
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 20: Like when he was healthy, I also think he was

1173
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 20: just he's always been authentic. That's not the right word,

1174
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 20: but just more revealing and more hunter as opposed to

1175
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 20: saying what you feel like you're supposed to say, like

1176
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 20: every athlete feels that way. I think that's just, more

1177
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 20: than anything, a part of him growing and maturing and

1178
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 20: evolving in the fact that he's like twenty six now

1179
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 20: instead of you know, twenty two and just trying to

1180
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 20: stick in the big leagues and figure out how this

1181
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 20: all works. I thought the story of Hunter's season was

1182
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 20: going to be this side of Hunter showcasing itself more

1183
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 20: because he was just more comfortable and more confident. Now,

1184
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 20: of course it's played out with the injury fashion, but

1185
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 20: I think it all ties together.

1186
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: We've had a chance to talk with you all along

1187
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: your trip to spring training and kind of judging what

1188
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: you've heard back here in Cincinnati, is there a player

1189
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: or players that we're not talking about enough based on

1190
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: the spring training that they're having. In your opinion, Bla

1191
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: Day's one.

1192
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 20: He looks good. He finished second on my player poll

1193
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 20: survey in terms of who's turning heads like. I see it.

1194
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 20: I see the tools of why he was a top

1195
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 20: five pick and whatever draft. The problem is is I

1196
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 20: was saying, like, the Reds can't really guarantee him playing time,

1197
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 20: so it's tricky from a pitching side. I think Williamson.

1198
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 20: You know, we get it now, but he's the one

1199
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 20: who really forced this issue of this condensed six man rotation.

1200
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 20: Like literally the story goes, Williamson just shoved against the

1201
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 20: Rockies in spring training, and Tito goes to Derek Johnson

1202
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 20: and he goes, I got an idea, and he kind

1203
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 20: of pitched the idea that the Reds ended up running with.

1204
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 20: So he belongs in that conversation. I'd also like to

1205
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 20: give a shout up for Williamson just the human story here.

1206
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 20: This is a guy who really hasn't pitched since twenty

1207
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 20: twenty three. He got to call his wife and his

1208
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 20: kids the other day and he said he did this together,

1209
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 20: and I think that's pretty cool. And then I mean

1210
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 20: I mentioned his name, or let me give you two more.

1211
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 20: I think Connor Phillips is one of the most important

1212
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 20: people in this bullpen. Like there's a world where like

1213
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 20: he's a seventh or eighth innning guy, like by June,

1214
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 20: there's a world where he struggles with his command. But

1215
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 20: but I'm leaning more towards positive with him with how

1216
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 20: he's looked recently. But a bullpen that needs more upside,

1217
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 20: he is that upside and then he got cut the

1218
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 20: other day. But let's just make sure we say the

1219
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 20: name Hagen Danner. One of the best stories on this

1220
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 20: red Steam, A converted catcher, a guy who debuted with

1221
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 20: the Blue Jays in twenty three, pulled his oblique seven

1222
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 20: pitches into his big league debut and hasn't been back since.

1223
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 20: And I think he'll be back. And that's a testament

1224
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 20: to how he's looked.

1225
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: On the side of the Bengals. And I know it's

1226
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: different because you've been wall to wall red since you've

1227
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: been out there, but you've been able to keep up

1228
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: with what the Bengals have and haven't done through this

1229
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: course of the offseason. Are you surprised at the lack

1230
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: of movement that we've seen from this organization throughout this period.

1231
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 20: Well, I've come down on the Bengals in free agency

1232
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 20: is they're just operating like a rebuilding team. Now, that

1233
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 20: doesn't square with the fact that pros in his prime

1234
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 20: chases in his prime. Haiggin's is in his prime. This

1235
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 20: is probably a top two, top one offense in all football. Like,

1236
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 20: I couldn't be higher on this offense. But every decision

1237
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 20: you can view through the lenses of rebuilding, getting quote

1238
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 20: unquote young veterans who definitely haven't played their best football

1239
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 20: in Cook and Mafey, who are now just a part

1240
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 20: of the young core. Not blocking Night, not blocking Carter,

1241
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 20: not blocking Stewart, not bringing in like a twenty twenty

1242
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 20: four Von Bell who brings some experience and probably makes

1243
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 20: you better in the short term, but doesn't fit that

1244
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 20: ideal path in the long term. Now, again, the problem

1245
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 20: is that doesn't square with the urgency that needs to

1246
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 20: be represented and reflected in this season. Like I even

1247
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 20: look at Jonathan Allen as a rebuilding style move because

1248
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 20: it's not even a half measure, it's a quarter measure

1249
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 20: just to get an adult in the room at defensive tackle.

1250
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 20: Like they could have done so much more if it

1251
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 20: was an all in year kind of like last year

1252
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 20: was when they gave a thirty year old tra Hendrickson

1253
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 20: a raise to bring him back for one more year.

1254
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 20: They have a completely reversed course, and that has me

1255
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 20: lower on this defense in the short term than it

1256
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 20: would have been have they been more proactive in the offseason.

1257
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: A member of this defense is passed, called it quitch yesterday,

1258
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: helding him up. Logan Wilson An. I know there's a lot,

1259
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: but any memories in covering this team stand out to

1260
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 3: you about just how good Logan Wilson was not only

1261
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 3: on the field, but great off the field as well.

1262
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 20: There was one play that, like everyone in the building

1263
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 20: always talked about. It was that Thursday night game against

1264
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 20: the Dolphins. Third and one, like the best runfit I've

1265
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 20: ever seen. He just saw it, he read it. He

1266
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 20: made this tackle for loss that like saved that game

1267
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 20: for the Bengals. I tweeted this yesterday. I think about

1268
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 20: the twenty twenty two Bengals defense often actually talk about

1269
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 20: it off not often, but like several times too, like

1270
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 20: recently with people in the building, like who's the von

1271
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 20: Bell going to be? And it doesn't have to be

1272
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 20: a safety, but the guy who is bringing everyone together

1273
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 20: having done the homework from an ex's and o's perspective,

1274
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 20: and on Tuesdays is getting everyone ready to go for

1275
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 20: what they are prepared for the game plan to be.

1276
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 20: And then also has that versatility on the field. Who's

1277
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 20: gonna be the Mike Hilton, the juice, who's gonna be

1278
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 20: the Logan Wolson, the tackler and the turnover generator? Like

1279
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 20: I think of those roles both intangibly in the locker

1280
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 20: room and on the field. I felt like it fits

1281
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 20: so perfectly that that's just the archetype. That is how

1282
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 20: in my head I try to build defenses like that

1283
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 20: defense was un believable, and I don't think that gets

1284
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 20: talked about enough. And I think of that often as

1285
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 20: I think how should this look? That's always something in

1286
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 20: the back of my head.

1287
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: Charlie, you're the best man. We cannot thank you for

1288
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 3: moving around your schedule to join us today. I know

1289
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: it's a busy time. Opening Day a week from today.

1290
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: I'll leave you with that. What I know Opening days

1291
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: a special time for so many people here in Cincinnati.

1292
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: What is it about Opening Day that makes it so

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Speaker 3: special for you?

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Speaker 20: So my biggest takeaway just from the Reds over the

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 20: last calendar year, really seeing their return last year, seeing

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Speaker 20: them in the playoffs, feeling the buzz in spring training,

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Speaker 20: because I really do feel it. People love the Reds.

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 20: Man like that hasn't changed. I see that. I see

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Speaker 20: that in kind of the communities I'm a part of,

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Speaker 20: both online and in person, Like I just feel that

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01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 20: in such a significant way, And you don't feel that

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Speaker 20: anymore than you do an opening day, and I think

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01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 20: people are genuinely excited about this team and that's refreshing.

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Speaker 3: Charlie, are the best? What is it?

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do all day? Charlie, it's an offset.

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: It's four thousand degrees outside. You're gonna sit around and

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01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 4: watch college basketball like everybody?

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01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like last time games were happening because

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01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: we don't have any on last time.

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: I asked Austin. He said, Ohio State was down four

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01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: and I looking there, down fifteen at the half. Are

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: they actually yes? Oh no? Not great for Bruce Thornton's

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Speaker 3: NCAA tournament life, Charlie. What's the easiest way that folks

1315
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: can follow along everything you got going on with with

1316
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: your coverage of Reds, Bangles and so much more.

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 20: We got Charlie's chalkboard on substacking on Fox nineteen. We

1318
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 20: got big things coming up with our stacks. Well, the

1319
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 20: Reds podcast. They can do with Brian Key's and Sly.

1320
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 20: It's it's a fun time of year. I'm excited to

1321
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 20: be going with baseball season.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you soon, Charlie. Miss you

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Speaker 3: out there. Have a great one. That is Charlie Goldsmith

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: always always gracious with his time and uh man, that

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01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: was a that was interesting that I hadn't thought of

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: that Austin when he described the Bengals defense as a

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 3: defense on the outside, feels like it's rebuilding because you

1328
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: don't think that. Yeah, when you think about how good

1329
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: the offense is and Joe Burrow being in his prime,

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 3: you don't have time for a rebuild. But the moves

1331
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: they've made, I'd like to rebuild the linebackers, got it

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: feels like that. Logan, Hello, Yeah, Actually, Logan, are you

1333
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 3: sure come back one more chance? We'll take ourselves a break.

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 4: What I think is crazy is both Logan Wilson and

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01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 4: Sam Hubbard are retired. Logan Wilson was the one who

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: forced the fumble on the Hubbard yard dash. Wow, the

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: two key pieces in maybe the most iconic play in

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 4: the history of the franchise. Take me back in that

1339
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two defense that Charlie was referring to.

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01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 3: Take me back have left the National Football League. We'll

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Speaker 3: leave now for a few minutes. We'll come back with

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Speaker 3: your talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: Hey Alexa bingals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 22: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in tone,

1346
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 22: please keep it clean and don't be mean at.

1347
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 20: A sprinkle sprinkle, drip drip.

1348
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 22: It's our favorite part since three sixty So Austin, buddy,

1350
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 22: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try not

1351
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 22: to sabotage.

1352
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: Feels like someone sabotage. And the TV's in here today,

1353
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: so hopefully our talkbacks are working like normal. It's since

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01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: he three to sixteen. The Thursday edition on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean, I'm rooting for the

1357
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 4: best here. See what happens.

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Speaker 23: Happy Thursday, everybody, and honor smoke just we are just

1359
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 23: now seven Smokey Burgess days away from the Red opening day.

1360
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 23: And if you need somebody more modern, we can go

1361
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 23: to Mariano Duncan. Fellas, I've been doing some serious studying.

1362
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 23: And what have I been studying? That menu has spoke

1363
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 23: justice seemed like to see you all there, fella talkbackers.

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Speaker 23: Who all's coming out?

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 13: Who they go?

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: Rags? There we go? Thank you, Kevin, it'd start for

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01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: us from from Kevin.

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Speaker 11: It's God Happy March, Madness, talk back Nation, way to

1369
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 11: go Miami, way to pull off the upset, Way to

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Speaker 11: represent Cincinnati, Tony Austin. I was wondering, do you wish

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Speaker 11: you guys got to do a remote session today, be.

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Speaker 3: With Mo mo are just out out with people. That

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 3: would be nice.

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Speaker 24: I'd love it, Hey, guys, Mercy and the Groove. I

1375
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 24: hate being one of these guys. But Mike from La,

1376
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 24: how many teams do you root for?

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01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: I mean, if you go.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 24: From Red's Dodgers, no matter what happens, you're happy all

1379
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 24: year long. You've done nothing about talk about Arkansas and

1380
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 24: Kentucky made a mistake letting them leave, and Cali Parry this,

1381
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 24: Caliperry that, and then you say Hawaii's one of your

1382
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 24: big upset picks. Like what's going on?

1383
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: Good question?

1384
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something about Mike. Mike listens to

1385
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: sports talk radio all day every day, so he hears various

1386
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: opinions about various teams and various parts of the country,

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01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: whether it's here or elsewhere, and so he feels as

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: if he has an informed opinion, and he's not afraid

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 4: to share it or this.

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: I respect it.

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Speaker 12: Whoats Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Come sorry, guys, I'm so excited. I'm still pumped up.

1393
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 9: I don't know that I slept much. Pep you Patty here. Anyway,

1394
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 9: I have to listen to the show on podcast today,

1395
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 9: so getting this on in early. But I'm just so happy.

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01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 6: I'm happy for my.

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 9: Dad, for my mom, for my brother who is watching.

1398
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 9: Watched last night with his fight out brothers from Miami.

1399
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 9: They're on their annual golf trip and you know he

1400
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 9: lost his son four years ago. I'm just so happy

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01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,440
Speaker 9: for all of them, for all the fans.

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: Nice, that was awesome last night. You mentioned it that

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: crowd was ridiculous at.

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01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 25: Dayton Hey Tony and USUS Jeff and election. With information

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 25: on how to destroy your busted bracket. Oh as it

1406
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 25: will inevitably will get busted over the next couple of days.

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 25: First thing you want to do is set fire to

1408
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 25: it with a match or some kind of flame, and

1409
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 25: then follow Smokey's rules. Drown with a bucket of water,

1410
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 25: stir with a shovel. If it's still hot, do it again.

1411
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 25: Remember only you can prevent busted bracket.

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 26: Okay, well done, Well said, Hello, this is former President

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01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 26: Ronald Reagan with today's fun fact.

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Speaker 5: Did you know that the Seattle Seahawks are the only

1415
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 5: current NFL team to have ever played a home game

1416
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: on natural grass? It's truly Oh and did you also

1417
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 5: know that Slick Willie is the only president to win

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 5: two elections while on natural grass?

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 27: Himself?

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: Well done, well done? Oh, that is so beautifully done.

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: Hey, fellows up be Friday Eve. It's DJ Frump.

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 17: No, we should have known when God threw a fireball

1423
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 17: in the state of Ohio the other day that that's

1424
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 17: exactly how Miami, Ohio is going to shoot.

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:28,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 17: I really enjoyed seeing Coach Still's wife and SMUs Coach's

1427
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 17: wife on a side by side.

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: Those guys are both winning on and off the court.

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01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 17: How about Elmer throwing up to John Cena you can't

1430
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 17: see me.

1431
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: In the post game?

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 17: And yesterday got life insurance and my tax is done,

1433
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 17: stress free and locked in, ready for the tournament.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day.

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: That's a good day. There, Wow, that's a good day.

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01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: Talk about clearing the plate, my goodness.

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Speaker 28: So if Singer doesn't pitch for ten days or so,

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 28: on the ninth day, is the medical staff gonna tell

1439
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 28: us he's out until July.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of what I'm expecting. You know, you've we've

1441
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 4: we've been trained to expect the worst and take a

1442
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: left turn at the last second.

1443
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 7: Yep, what if Brady Singer's good this year?

1444
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 6: We call him Brady Slinger.

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: Okay, I can do that. Maybe he could work with

1446
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Slingers. I can do that him and Mo.

1447
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 4: Maybe do a couple of commercials together. Sounds fun to me.

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 29: Gentlemen on the East stand, going back to yesterday's talkbacks,

1449
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 29: get a bid dat invest in the mid day and

1450
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 29: you'll never look back. You know, I say the same

1451
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 29: thing every year. No mock drafts, No mock drafts this year,

1452
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 29: and then I just scroll to find everyone's mock draft,

1453
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 29: your uncle Joe's mock draft, and I like your guys

1454
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 29: read a couple of days ago. What if all the

1455
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 29: defensive studs are gone at number ten? Listen, it's going

1456
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 29: to be a cornerback there in the second round. Okay,

1457
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 29: I know we don't have a history.

1458
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 3: Well you only get thirty seconds, but.

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 30: Yeah, guys doing yesterday talk back, playing about the Beatles

1460
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 30: commercial there on iHeartRadio, and uh, he was complaining about

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 30: how they got banned on the run and that wasn't

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 30: a Beatles song. Well, if you listen to the whole

1463
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 30: annoying commercial, they do plainly state that they play the

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 30: solo hits. Also, I just want to clarify that. Uh,

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 30: he's right, it is annoying. You guys have a good one.

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 3: Okay, this is a that's a. This is a good

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 3: place for clarification.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Bruce Pearl, shut the blank up. Travis still a

1469
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 12: real nice coaching job. I'll tell you that team never

1470
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 12: gets nervous. They're mentally strong. I like the Frustramans from

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 12: La Cota East like that. I got Houston being San John's,

1472
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 12: Michigan being Arizona, Michigan being Houston.

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Michigan over Houston, all right, I respect that.

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 26: That's a ball knower, o man if man Leroy down

1475
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,480
Speaker 26: here in Foundy. He Oh, what a great day to watchball.

1476
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 26: And I've also been watching Eric All and James the

1477
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 26: Payne go at it on Twitter. Oh what a good

1478
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 26: Nipson going on there.

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01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 13: That's good entertainer right there. Pull that up, grab a chair,

1480
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 13: James and Eric.

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: I didn't see this. I didn't see this either. Taren.

1482
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: Do you know anything about this? Wow? Okay, that's a thing.

1483
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 25: Hey did you hear that the Bears are changing their

1484
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 25: name to the Beans since they're moving to hamm and

1485
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 25: they'll be called the ham and Beans?

1486
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: All right? I like it.

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01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 31: I like it if you don't know, now, you know?

1488
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 31: Repping the city out here, it's sunny. Man is getting

1489
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 31: crazy hot and it Tony, what up? Body man? You

1490
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 31: live by three, you die by three. Miami lived by

1491
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 31: the three last night. Excellent atmosphere. You couldn't ask for

1492
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 31: nothing better. This Beetles came down, got a distraction on

1493
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 31: the free throw that was classic right there. I think

1494
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 31: they can be Tennessee man, real talk. I got them

1495
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 31: advancing in the round.

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 13: Brady, throw a.

1497
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 3: Little shade at Joe Burrow. Time to wake up a

1498
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: sleeping tiger man front office. Get this right with the Bengals.

1499
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: I see Tyson, everyson gone man.

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 13: Get this right.

1501
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: Holes to fill all over the place. Yeah, I mean.

1502
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 4: We were talking to Charlie off the air before we

1503
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: came on, and I asked him about the weather and

1504
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: he said it's bad.

1505
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it ain't good. It's not good at all.

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: All right, that's our last one all right, Ohio State

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01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 4: can't make a shot right now, that's what's happening. It's

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01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 4: forty one to twenty eight TCU leading the Buckeyes make

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 4: it forty one to thirty after a ferocious jam, but

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 4: eleven feels like a thousand because Ohio State can't shoot

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01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: the ball very well.

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01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 3: I'm just intrigued in in what James said to get

1513
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: Eric all. We got one more just came back.

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Speaker 28: Okay, final point of clarification. Band on the Run is

1515
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 28: a song by the band Paul McCartney and Wings. It

1516
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 28: is not a solo album from Paul McCartney.

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, we go. We got some music lovers that I

1518
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 3: didn't know about. So this is so here's what happened

1519
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: now Now I'm following along with what James said. Okay,

1520
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: he said. I'm an Eric All believer, but banking on

1521
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: him being the same guy right away and staying healthy

1522
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 3: is foolish. Agreed. Doesn't mean you can't root for him

1523
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: or believe that it will happen, but the organization can't

1524
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: bank on it. Yes, he's right, to which Eric Hall

1525
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 3: responded back, don't worry, I'll show you. We'll see how

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 3: foolish it is okay. That's from respect himself, James calling

1527
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 3: it like he sees it.

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 4: It's what I expect the competitor to say. I mean,

1529
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 4: what is looking at it from Eric Hall's point of view.

1530
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: James Rapene is looking at it from an organizational point

1531
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: of view. And I guarantee that the same point that

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: James made was made, you know, inside the offices of

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 4: Pai Court Stadium.

1534
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not doing it should be. Yeah, you

1535
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 3: have to protect that position at all costs. Let's take

1536
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: a break, a couple segments to go. When we get back,

1537
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: Keegan Nickoson at two o'clock will join us as well.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 32: Miss an episode of since E three to sixty Here

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 32: every show at espnfifteen thirty dot com.

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's good to have you along. ESPN fifteen

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01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. A couple updates for you. Buck

1543
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,799
Speaker 3: guys have put themselves back in the game here forty

1544
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: three to thirty six, just under fourteen minutes remaining in

1545
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: that one. We need them to shoot like the RedHawks.

1546
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: Nebraska leads Troy forty one to twenty five at the half,

1547
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: and the South Fororida Bulls and Louisville Cardinals. Early in

1548
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 3: that one. The fifteen minute marks seven to seven, three

1549
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: games underway. To start off your March madness. Some other

1550
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: college basketball news. Jovanne Melissavich. What did you call me?

1551
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 3: Jovonne Melissavich. Yeah, the forward for the Xavier Musketeers averaged

1552
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: twelve point four points three point nine rebounds last year.

1553
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: He's coming back to Xavier, he says via his social media.

1554
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: So nice get for Richard Patino to bring back a

1555
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 3: piece of this year's roster. Other college news, how about

1556
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: Clinton Coats Austin fifteen home runs? Now, you're outright college

1557
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 3: baseball leader in home runs. You know his middle name?

1558
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 3: What Winter? It was either gonna say Winter or multiple

1559
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,520
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it? Or what about Bass

1560
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 3: no base Coats? I like Winter. What about Sammy coach?

1561
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 3: You remember him? Sammy can work? Yeah, Samy can work.

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01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 3: Now I'll go with that one. Okay. Do you see

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: what Tom Brady said about Joe Burrow?

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: What did he say? I've heard multiple things about Joe

1565
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 4: Burrow and Tom Brady.

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01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: So they were doing the uh the flag football draft. Yeah,

1567
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: there's this big fanatics.

1568
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 4: Yeah fan fest flag football thing happening in La yep.

1569
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 3: And someone said, someone used the term wildcat, and Tom

1570
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: Brady said that's what they called Joe the other night

1571
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: at all those Oscars parties. Oh, and then said, at

1572
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 3: least he's here. Didn't have any fashion events to go

1573
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: to today, question mark.

1574
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: So Tom really drumming it up? Yeah, Tom really drumming

1575
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 4: it up now.

1576
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 3: I think Tom's doing this in multiple places right now,

1577
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: because right now Tom has a back and forth going

1578
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: on with the WWE. Have you seen any of this

1579
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 3: Logan Paul, who's a WWE superstar one he wants. He's

1580
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 3: calling out Tom Brady for not being an athlete. Brady's

1581
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: talking about how wrestling is fake. These two have been

1582
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 3: going back and forth. It feels like Tom Brady's gonna

1583
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: have some type of appearance at WrestleMania coming up. Feels

1584
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: like this is being drummed up by the WWE. Take

1585
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 3: with it. What you want, okay, is your screw. We

1586
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,799
Speaker 3: have this screen going back and forth. Today.

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Speaker 4: I heard he also said something about Alex Earl, really,

1588
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 4: because you know, Tom was dancing with Alex Earl's party

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 4: not that long ago. And apparently Joe Burrow was with

1590
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 4: Alex Earl as well. Do you think maybe there's okay,

1591
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: a little bit of drama jealousy that tea.

1592
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 3: Maybe that is a real thing. I'm just kidding.

1593
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 4: Maybe this isn't a bit I think Tommy is is.

1594
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 4: I think this is a good thing for Joe Burrow

1595
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 4: to be, like, yeah, you know what, tom can get

1596
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 4: out there in front of people and be a bit

1597
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: of a cornball because Joe needs to be better at that.

1598
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 4: I think if there's one thing that Joe Burrow needs

1599
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 4: to be better at, it is the way he handles

1600
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 4: himself and his presence in the community. Okay, he does

1601
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: the foundation does a lot of good stuff, but it's

1602
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 4: primarily his parents. He's not out and about very much.

1603
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 4: And I understand it's not necessarily part of his personality

1604
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 4: and everybody is different, but I do think it's good

1605
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 4: for Joe to go out and go to these types

1606
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 4: of events and see Tom Brady doing it, and see

1607
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts doing it and all these other guys, and

1608
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 4: I hope that that unlocks a little bit of something

1609
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 4: for Joe Burrow.

1610
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Some other sports news right now. Atlanta

1611
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: Brave outfielder Jerrekson Profar. Yeah, he got suspended again. Yeah,

1612
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 3: he appealed it and the appealed did not hold up

1613
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 3: for him, So he will miss all of this upcoming

1614
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six season. A one hundred and sixty two

1615
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 3: game ped suspension for Jerrekson Profar. Other news if you're

1616
01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 3: a follower of the NBA, disappointing news for Detroit Pistons

1617
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: star Cade Cuttingham got diagnosed with the collapsed lung yesterday,

1618
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and is expected to miss an extended

1619
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,919
Speaker 3: period of time for the Eastern Conference leading Detroit Pistons.

1620
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,480
Speaker 3: There's been multiple collapse lungs I feel like recently. Yeah,

1621
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 3: now I'm not.

1622
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 4: Isn't that the old Uh? What was that quarterback? It

1623
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 4: happened here in Cincinnati's lung collapsed to Rod Taylor with Rogers.

1624
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I'm not as in depth following the NBA

1625
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 3: as I have in years past. They're nearing the stretch run, correct,

1626
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: What does that mean? Like the regular season is does

1627
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: it come to a close soon? Yeah, the beginning of May. Okay,

1628
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 3: so at the end of the regular season, gotcha and

1629
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 3: your bulls on the outside looking in. The bulls have

1630
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 3: tanked Okay, yeah, twenty eight and forty one. Dude, they

1631
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: were so awesome for the first eight games of the year.

1632
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, we're back Matthhouse on Madison, move over,

1633
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan. We've got Matos Boozalis. Now I watch Ioed

1634
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: Desumu kick ass every night for another team. Tough. It's frustrating, man,

1635
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 3: it's frustrating. Keegan Nickoson will be here at two o'clock

1636
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 3: and we get back in a little bit more on

1637
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 3: the red.

1638
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 4: Speaking of the NBA and speaking of the shirt that

1639
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 4: you're wearing today, which is a green hoodie. Yeah, it

1640
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 4: reminds me of a Boston Celtics city. I heard, uh,

1641
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: Moe and Skinny and all them talking earlier about Jared Calhoun.

1642
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't was he like?

1643
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 4: Is he like best friends with Joe mazzous very call

1644
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 4: Joe Mizzoula, the head coach of the Celtics. He was

1645
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 4: the best man in his wedding.

1646
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Missoula obviously played under Huggins at West Virginia, right,

1647
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: and Calhoun and Huggins are obviously very close.

1648
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 4: So I think I think that's pretty cool. I think

1649
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 4: that could be uh, you know, the handed Christian Fellowship.

1650
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, Joe. Speaking of the Celtics, the the thought

1651
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 3: that Jason Tatum is now back playing thirty plus minutes

1652
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,520
Speaker 3: a game after tearing his achilles in the playoffs.

1653
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 4: Last year is crazy modern medicine, modern medicine. We saw

1654
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 4: what Joe Burrow did on Thanksgiving.

1655
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: We'll update John what's going on in the NCAA tournament.

1656
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: He's stunk. The next week we'll talk about the Cincinnati

1657
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: Reds as well. Seven days till opening day leading up

1658
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 3: to Keeg. Nickoson to join us a two o'clock on

1659
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1660
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 4: No strong, God, welcome back. I'm going to need a

1661
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: strong one watching the Buckeyes. Not good, they're fighting. Okay,

1662
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: this's a seven point deficit with nine to forty to go.

1663
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: Okay, now I see it as a five point deficit here,

1664
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: all right, wonderful, you're probably ahead of me. I see

1665
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 3: TCU forty nine, forty four. I see Nebraska as a

1666
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 3: forty one to twenty five lead. In Louisville. Who is

1667
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 3: the most bet upon favorite to lose in the first round.

1668
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 3: It's seventeen to nine lead over South Florida. In early

1669
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 3: action and things just getting underway in the West region.

1670
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 3: High point in early three to two lead over the

1671
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 3: Wisconsin Badgers. How about this TCU now only leads by

1672
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 3: two Austin. All right, well, don't ruin it for me, buck,

1673
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 3: guys climbing, don't ruin it. Fall all the way back.

1674
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 4: You gotta fight, you know, yep, you know, it's all

1675
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 4: over the place in there. In Columbus, Ryan Dy always

1676
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 4: talks about fight, fight, you know, fight the people, the tradition,

1677
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 4: the excellence.

1678
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 3: You know what you see. They say, you get hacked

1679
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 3: in the act. They say, fight to the finish, never

1680
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: give in.

1681
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 4: What is that part of like the fights on Yes, okay.

1682
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 3: You do your best, boys, we'll do the rest onward

1683
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 3: to victory. Okay, that makes sense to me. Just keep

1684
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: fighting and scratching and clawing, and good things are going

1685
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: to happen. Seven days away from Red's opening day, Austin. Yes,

1686
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: we've done this all along the way. Red's to wear

1687
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 3: number seven. Now, this was a little bit of a

1688
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: thing here in the off season because before he left

1689
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:04,959
Speaker 3: the EU Henio Suarez War number seven from twenty fifteen

1690
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty one. Yeah, and then of course Donovan

1691
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: Sion was that one year of Solano and then Spencer

1692
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 3: Steers had it since then, and Suarez said, no, Spencer,

1693
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 3: you keep it.

1694
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 4: Spencer longballs, you keep it. But none of them, they

1695
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 4: all peril in comparison to Paul Yanni.

1696
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Paul Jannish.

1697
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 4: Juan Castro makes another appearance on this list. What about

1698
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,799
Speaker 4: nine and number seven? What about the great Kevin Mitchell?

1699
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Paul Householder. Did Kevin Mitchell wants

1700
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: catch a fly ball? Bear handed?

1701
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 3: Probably Mariano Duncan.

1702
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 4: If Paul Householder was around today, would we call him

1703
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 4: the realtor?

1704
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: Yes?

1705
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely? What about Jimmy Coker? What about Ernie Lombardi? Smokey

1706
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 4: Burgess was mentioned earlier?

1707
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 3: Ernie Lombardo.

1708
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 4: This is like the fifth appearance for Ernie Lombardi. He

1709
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 4: had more numbers than the irs.

1710
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 3: Please, Now, obviously we're off tomorrow, that'll be six days

1711
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 3: to opening day, And how can you talk about number

1712
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: six with the Cincinnati Reds without the great Ryan Freil.

1713
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 3: Of course that parlayed to Drew Stebbins to rest his

1714
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: soul Freel Stubbs Hamilton. That was a nice little run

1715
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: it was for the number for the number six, Jonathan India.

1716
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 3: You can't forget Garrett Hampson's year last year as number six.

1717
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 4: Woody Woodward, the wood Duddy, the Woodpecker. That's all right,

1718
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 4: Bodas My dad loved bo Ds, Edwin Diaz, alexis no body, Okay.

1719
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 4: I see this guy Cooper on here flag. I used

1720
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 4: to I've always called people named Cooper. I'd always call

1721
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 4: him Chicken Chicken Cooper. What about Bill Baker?

1722
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 3: All right?

1723
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 4: Back in nineteen forty one a dozen, I know a

1724
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 4: guy named Bill Baker, a Baker's Dozen. He wore number six.

1725
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 4: Number five belongs to a guy named Johnny Bench. Number

1726
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 4: five is pretty easy. I can't talk about anything, and

1727
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 4: I think number four is pretty easy as well. On

1728
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 4: Sunday Santiago Espinal, No.

1729
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 3: It would be dat dude, be Brandon Hall of Fame.

1730
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 3: Do not disrespect show go Akayama.

1731
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 4: Man, that poor guy. I mean, what do you think

1732
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 4: you're talking about? Thinking things are gonna be different? When

1733
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 4: you think he he's back in Japan now, and when

1734
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 4: people ask him and his family about Cincinnati, what do

1735
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 4: you think he says, Oh, we got there and a

1736
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 4: tree fell on my wife like that is one of

1737
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 4: the most insane stories ever. He ended up playing in

1738
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 4: Louisville for a little while. Did he ever get back

1739
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 4: to the big leagues? For not even another cup of coffee?

1740
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 4: Do you know who else? I was a believer in

1741
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: show Go? You know who else? Were the number four?

1742
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: Wake me up before you show go? Ernie Lombardi?

1743
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Did he just pick a jersey

1744
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 4: out of the pile every day?

1745
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: I think so?

1746
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: Ernie Lombardi, for that reason alone, he should be a

1747
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, without a doubt, without a lank boat

1748
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: love al, could you not? We'll take a break our

1749
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 4: three mercifully. Next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. It

1750
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 4: starts with our guy, Keegan Nickoson from barcat journal dot

1751
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 4: com on this the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen

1752
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 4: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1753
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: You're one stop.

1754
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

1755
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 3: Here we go the third and final hour of the

1757
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 3: Thursday edition and then turn the last show of the

1758
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: week for Austin and I as well. Kentucky Basketball twelve

1759
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: thirty tomorrow, So we do not have a show NC

1760
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 3: DOUBLEA tournament action in full swing right now, and our

1761
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Speaker 3: guest to kick off our number three is I think

1762
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 3: partaking in some of the NC DOUBLEA tournament action from

1763
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: barcat journal dot com. Yes, Bearcatjournal dot com. Not who's

1764
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 3: your journal dot com? Alhunjournal dot com right now. Although

1765
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: he's got his Indiana hoo's your National championship sweatshirt on? Today?

1766
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: It is Keegan Nicholson. Kegan, how are you doing?

1767
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 8: I could not be better. This is like Christmas and

1768
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 8: my birthday wrapped in the one.

1769
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 13: So I'm very excited.

1770
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what what game? Do you have a

1771
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 3: game that you're most excited for today? On the on

1772
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 3: the slate, I'm a big TJ Power guy.

1773
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 8: Watched him a lot in high school when Indiana was

1774
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 8: recruiting him, of course, and I've picked ten to upset

1775
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 8: Illinois and every bracket I've made, so I'm ready for

1776
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 8: penance that I think nine.

1777
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 4: Okay, you got a long day ahead of you. Are

1778
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 4: you going to be out there where you're currently set up?

1779
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 4: I mean, let's just say what it is. My old

1780
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 4: friends at Hollywood casino. That's where Keegan's at right now.

1781
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 4: Are you going to be there until tomorrow morning?

1782
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 6: No?

1783
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 8: So my lovely wife would looking home for dinner tonight.

1784
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 13: I have to be six thirty.

1785
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: That's a strong day you got ahead of you though.

1786
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 13: At least Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be fun there.

1787
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 3: There's obviously a lot of basketball action going on right now.

1788
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 3: U See does not make the tournament. They don't have

1789
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 3: a head coach. And I know what Bearcat Journal, you

1790
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: guys are doing your best to update the coaching boards,

1791
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 3: But everyone I talk to, they circle back to one

1792
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 3: name in Jared Calhoun. Is it as cut and dry?

1793
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Is that for you? Is he the clear number one

1794
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 3: on this list for the Bearcats?

1795
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 13: If I had to.

1796
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 8: Put my money on it, I wouldn't put my money

1797
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 8: on anyone else to be the head coach at you See.

1798
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 8: I don't think it's as cut and dry as a

1799
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 8: lot of people think. From what I've heard, they're gonna

1800
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 8: do a full search. It's not just we're going to

1801
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 8: interview him and if we think it works, it works,

1802
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 8: and we'll hire him. But I do think that it's

1803
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 8: kind of a slam dunk in a layup like it's

1804
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 8: he's a grad, he coached under one of your best,

1805
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 8: probably the best head coach in CINCINNTI history, So I

1806
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 8: think it's an easy hire. I do also think that

1807
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 8: people have tomber if he upsets who's he playing in

1808
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 8: the first If he beats Villanova and then somehow upsets Arizona,

1809
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 8: he goes to Sweet sixteen, how does that throw a

1810
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 8: wrench of things like if you're Cincinnati, do you continue

1811
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 8: to wait? If you're another school that wants to hire him,

1812
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 8: do you up the offer? And then it just gets

1813
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 8: too intriguing. So I think how they fare in the

1814
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 8: NCAA tournament absolutely plays a factor into it. I also

1815
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 8: think that's why Josh Shurtz hasn't officially announced his extension

1816
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 8: with Saint Louis, because he's trying to keep all his

1817
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 8: options open. So long story short, do I expect him

1818
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 8: to be the next head coach? Yes, but it's not

1819
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 8: as cut and dry as like people just waiting for

1820
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 8: an announcement in the next couple of days.

1821
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 3: It is interesting I did not know he played under

1822
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: John Brandon. Is what you said you see history? Next?

1823
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 13: Next question? Next question?

1824
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 3: You know in a in the hypothetical world in which

1825
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 3: we're discussing that for whatever reason, it doesn't play out

1826
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 3: to beat Calhoun, Or are there a list of names

1827
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 3: that do you think that you think are viable options

1828
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 3: because everyone's you know, Dan Hurley is a name, not

1829
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: a viable name. Bob Huggins probably not a viable name

1830
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: at this point. Steve Kerr, you know MO mentioned the

1831
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 3: other day Steve Kerr maybe is done in the NBA?

1832
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 3: Are there viable names? Are there viable names that come

1833
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 3: to mind for you?

1834
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 13: Eric Martin, Nick van Exel, Ye, all those usual suspects.

1835
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 17: No.

1836
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 8: From a financial standpoint, like Cincinnati is in the school

1837
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 8: that's extremely flushed with cash to pay a bunch of buyouts.

1838
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 8: So like if you look at firing coach Wes Miller

1839
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 8: and then you look at hiring one, I'm Jery Calhoun

1840
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 8: or Josh Shirtz. That's eleven million. I'll in to get

1841
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 8: that done in just buyouts. In terms of firing Wes

1842
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 8: Miller and paying the other schools buyout. I think Luke

1843
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 8: Murray is an extremely intriguing name. I've really liked him

1844
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 8: from the beginning. I think he's coached under some really

1845
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 8: good head coaches. He went back to back national championships.

1846
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 8: He's a guy that I think someone's going to hire

1847
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 8: and he's gonna kill it. Like and I think Cincinnati

1848
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 8: would be in a position to be like, hey, let's

1849
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 8: hire an assistant coach, not have to pay a buy out,

1850
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 8: be in a better financial situation. And I know that

1851
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 8: Syracuse and Providence in Boston College have been interested in Murray.

1852
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 8: He's familiar with the area, and I think that his

1853
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 8: familiarity with the area is probably red flag because he

1854
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 8: was an assistant at Xavier. But outside of Calhoun, I

1855
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 8: really go to Luke Murray. Brian Hodgson is an interesting name,

1856
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 8: Eric Olin, and also Jeff Linder, an assistant at Texas

1857
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 8: Tech who was the head coach at Wyoming the last

1858
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 8: time they went to the tournament. He actually resigned and

1859
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 8: then joined Branton McCastle in Texas Tech. So there's a

1860
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 8: few names. But as I said before, if it's not

1861
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,919
Speaker 8: Jared Calhoun, and I would be pretty surprised.

1862
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 3: You know. I look at the current landscape of college

1863
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 3: hoops and I wonder, like, what does this now do

1864
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 3: the waiting game for the roster, because as soon as

1865
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 3: the season ends, like we just saw a few minutes

1866
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: ago Yovann Malisseovich, the forward for Xavier, announced that he's

1867
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 3: coming back to Xavier. There are a lot of questions

1868
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 3: about this roster already being in flux, and there are

1869
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 3: names that could be eligible to come back to this team.

1870
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 3: But now it's a waiting game, as is the portal.

1871
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 3: So what does this waiting now do? We saw with

1872
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 3: Richard Patino last year he got the job a little late,

1873
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: struggled to kind of put together a roster that quick.

1874
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 3: What does this do for trying to formulate a roster

1875
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 3: for next year?

1876
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think it puts the new head

1877
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 8: coach in a position to bring a bunch of his

1878
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 8: guys over. I also think that this whole new era

1879
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 8: has been to do what's in the best interests of

1880
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 8: the player and to give them the most options. So

1881
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 8: a guy like Shaanabia or Digessel, James Akeishan Tillery or

1882
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 8: Tyler McKinley, since your hair is taking enter the portal

1883
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 8: right now. And I definitely think it puts the It

1884
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 8: puts a new head coach at a disadvantage. I also

1885
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 8: like that's why I was so confused by people were

1886
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 8: being like they need to wait until April first fire

1887
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 8: West Miller, like, but that puts them at a real

1888
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 8: big disadvantage. They can go through the entire process and

1889
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 8: kind of backdate it. I don't know the legalese of

1890
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 8: how that works, if I'm being completely honest, but like,

1891
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if they have an official separation

1892
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 8: earlier and that and that buyout ends up getting negotiated down,

1893
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 8: so they kind of separate because Wes is from what

1894
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 8: I'm seeing like a favorite to get the Charlotte job,

1895
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 8: and also other mid majors in the Carolinas. So I

1896
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised if they both just move on and

1897
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 8: in the best interest to both parties. But in terms

1898
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:48,560
Speaker 8: of like player attention, the portal is always open, basically,

1899
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 8: like all these people are still looking around. Also, Corey

1900
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 8: Evans is on a three year contract He's likely to

1901
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 8: return with whenever Gene comes, he would have the head

1902
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 8: start and that's where a situation having a GM like

1903
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 8: that is.

1904
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:04,839
Speaker 13: A huge plus.

1905
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to go there next because you

1906
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 3: know Corey Evans. I feel like going into the year,

1907
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: we talked about Corey Evans almost every other day and

1908
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 3: then the season started and because of his role, you

1909
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 3: don't hear much, but how important, how impactful is his

1910
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 3: role now in this process where there is a lot

1911
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: of unknowns about the head coach of the of the program.

1912
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean with his ties overseas, he was a

1913
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 8: pretty big player and actually getting guys like Boba Miller.

1914
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 8: He was a big player in getting guys like Georgia

1915
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 8: Ardiguez who didn't play as well, but you can kind

1916
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 8: of see the potential. But Boba Miller was a cherry

1917
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 8: on top of the roster, like he was a late addition.

1918
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 8: So he's very very important. He's very well connected, and

1919
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 8: he knows how to evaluate talent. I mean, he worked

1920
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 8: for maybe the most successful NBA organization at the time,

1921
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 8: in the Oklahoma City Thunder, and then you identify guy

1922
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 8: like Boba Miller and now he's probably going to be

1923
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 8: a second round pick in the NBA draft.

1924
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 13: So he's huge.

1925
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 8: And I think the growing trend of colleges hiring gms

1926
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 8: is starting to become the norm. It's I think Kentucky

1927
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 8: might have just hired one. I know that was a

1928
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 8: big drama about them not having one, but this kind

1929
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 8: of scenario is why it's very important and it's also

1930
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 8: very interesting that these gms are, I don't want to

1931
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 8: say bigger than the head coach, but it's getting to

1932
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 8: the point where they are, Like I think Andrew Luck

1933
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 8: can hire and fire the head coach of Stanford football.

1934
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 8: And I think it's trending more in that direction that

1935
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 8: the gms are going to have that much power over

1936
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 8: the other direction of their just an addition to the

1937
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 8: Richard and staff.

1938
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 3: If you were in one of those roles of the

1939
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 3: decision making, albeit a GM or head coach, and you

1940
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 3: look at the members of this team from last year

1941
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 3: that are eligible to be a member of the team

1942
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 3: this year, who are some of those core guys that,

1943
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 3: if you had the opportunity, you would want to make

1944
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 3: sure our back next year. For the Bearcats, the first.

1945
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 8: Guy I would look at is keyschan Tillery. I think

1946
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 8: he just provides so much stability on both sides of

1947
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 8: the ball. He came here because of his offensive prowess,

1948
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 8: but he played very very well defensively. He also provides

1949
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 8: great leadership, physicality and a big spark. After that, I'm

1950
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 8: going to Tyler McKinley to win the fan vote get

1951
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 8: a Cincinnati guy to stay and prove why, like a

1952
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 8: kind of a Datte Caroleione type of thing.

1953
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 13: Take pride in your city, now.

1954
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 8: This that's it's those two no matter who the head

1955
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 8: coach is. But if you're if I'm Jared Calhoun, I'm

1956
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 8: taking a real long look at seanabayev and I'm saying

1957
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 8: I'm an offensive coach and I produced really good offenses.

1958
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 13: For the past five years.

1959
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:47,600
Speaker 8: I would like to see what I can do with

1960
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 8: this kid, who, like when he's on, is like a

1961
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 8: very very dangerous offensive player. I don't think Musach is

1962
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 8: going to be back just because of how much money

1963
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 8: he's going to very rightfully demand, Like he's one of

1964
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 8: the best players in the country when he's on on

1965
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 8: both sides of the ball.

1966
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 13: He could get up to three and a half four

1967
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 13: million dollars.

1968
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 8: And then your first year kind of like how you

1969
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 8: mentioned with the transfer portal, you're gonna he's not gonna

1970
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 8: want to wait. So I would go up to Keishaan

1971
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 8: Tayler and Tyler McKinley, and then I would see if

1972
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 8: I can get seanabayev on on an affordable deal kind

1973
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 8: of just hey, stay rooted, stay where you are and

1974
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 8: let's play for a really good offensive coach and get

1975
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 8: the most out of your game.

1976
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 3: How much of a grace period does a new head

1977
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: coach in today's college basketball world get. I mean, folks

1978
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati are starving to get back to the tournament.

1979
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 3: It was tournament or bus this year for West Miller.

1980
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 3: That's why he's not the coach any longer. When you

1981
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 3: are in today's nil world, and from all reports, I

1982
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 3: would say, you see he's competitive in the NIL market.

1983
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 3: From the Big twelve basketball standpoint, What does that do

1984
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 3: for day one expectations for a head coach coming into

1985
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:58,440
Speaker 3: a new program.

1986
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, in this day and age at a school like

1987
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 8: Cincinnati that I mean, it's not like at Texas A

1988
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 8: and m or Ohio State just has money to blow.

1989
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 13: I give them two years realistically.

1990
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 8: But there was a lot of talks that Jake Diebler

1991
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 8: could be on the hot seats, like if he didn't

1992
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 8: make the tournament, he was going to get fired enough

1993
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 8: two year two. So I would say two years not

1994
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 8: making the tournament gets to a third like West was

1995
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 8: in a very very unique situation of making the change

1996
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 8: over to the Big twelve and came in when like

1997
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 8: they were battling a lawsuit with the former coach, there

1998
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 8: was no one on the team, and you kind of

1999
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 8: understand why he got those five years. Now, Like you're

2000
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 8: looking at Pat Kelsey taking over at Louisville and they

2001
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,839
Speaker 8: were in rough shape under Kenny Payne.

2002
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 13: He takes him to the tournament two years in a row.

2003
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 8: And there's like Brian Hotson, Like UCF went through a

2004
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 8: terrible tragedy losing their head coach last year, and then

2005
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 8: he takes over in year one with the USF and.

2006
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,799
Speaker 13: Now he's got them winning the AAC and in the tournament.

2007
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 8: So like, it's definitely difficult to do it, but it

2008
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 8: seems like there's a lot of head coaches that have

2009
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 8: figured it out. So it makes sense for a university

2010
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 8: to have high standards and high demands.

2011
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 13: So I would say two years.

2012
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 8: But at a school like Cincinnati who values basketball over

2013
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 8: a lot of other schools in terms of like how

2014
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 8: they fund that roster compared to football, I wouldn't argue

2015
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 8: with anyone who basically says, hey, if you don't make

2016
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 8: it year one, like year year two is on the

2017
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 8: hot seat.

2018
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 3: Your bracket. In particular, this year. Are you one that

2019
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 3: fills out brackets? I would assume, And if so, who

2020
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 3: do you got winning at all?

2021
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 8: I so this year I did one bracket for the

2022
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 8: first time in probably my entire life, which I kind

2023
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 8: of hate. I have Michigan winning it all. I love Yaxel.

2024
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 8: I'm not Yaxle, try to pronounce his last name.

2025
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 13: But Michigan.

2026
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 8: I love Michigan Michigan because they gave me hope in

2027
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:56,719
Speaker 8: that exhibition game.

2028
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I'm surprised I didn't go into the

2029
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 3: resume for UC beat Michigan in an exhibition but lost

2030
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 3: to Eastern Michigan in the regular season.

2031
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, we get a really wide range here in Cincinnati. No,

2032
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 8: I think Michigan's really good. I think they're well coached,

2033
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 8: like teams who dominate the Big Ten. It's hard for

2034
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 8: me to pick against them. But I think b Yu

2035
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 8: I'd end up in the final four too. I wouldn't

2036
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 8: be surprised if A J. Devanta this average is like

2037
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 8: thirty five points a game.

2038
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 3: Oh, so he's the best player in the tournament. It

2039
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 3: feels like, yeah, it's got to account for something.

2040
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 4: I mean, looking at Keegan's bracket here in the Tony

2041
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 4: Pikes since he three sixty racket challenge. He has uh

2042
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 4: Florida over Yukon in the final four and Michigan over

2043
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 4: BYU Wow in the final four, with the Wolverines prevailing

2044
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 4: over the Gators. So it's a little big twelve flair,

2045
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,560
Speaker 4: but discussed very disrespectful.

2046
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 3: I feel like to the Houston Cougars.

2047
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah no.

2048
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 13: I love aj Devanson.

2049
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 8: I think he's aa and marches for moments and he's

2050
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 8: gonna have Arizona Arizona.

2051
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 3: How do you how do you go against Arizona? I don't.

2052
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 13: They don't have like a sexy name like Cody, I guess.

2053
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 4: But it's a good way to fill out Terry Francona,

2054
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a good way to fill out the brackets.

2055
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,799
Speaker 3: He can also pick Troy over Nebraska. They're getting trounced.

2056
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, shut us, I said, you're not allowed to talk

2057
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 8: about it if anything.

2058
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 3: Gigan real quick. I know. Uh. It's it's different and

2059
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 3: and this is we're square in the middle now. March Madness.

2060
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 3: Spring ball is just different. It feels like in college

2061
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 3: football anymore. It doesn't have the same feel that I

2062
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 3: think it used to have. There's a showcase and not

2063
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 3: a spring game anymore, but any early indications of of

2064
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 3: what's been happening at spring ball to to take away

2065
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: with With the Bearcats.

2066
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, DB's are ball hawking a little bit. I'm getting

2067
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 13: a lot of.

2068
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 8: Interceptions, and I really like the size that they have.

2069
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 13: MJ.

2070
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 8: Cannon is like a huge guy, like I don't know,

2071
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 8: it's a pretty niche name in terms of the last

2072
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 8: two years, but if you remember Jordan Robinson, the corner

2073
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 8: that played kind of sparingly, he looked at him and

2074
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 8: he was really long and really tall.

2075
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 13: MJ.

2076
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 8: Cannon plays that at a safety spot and he has

2077
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 8: the ability to kind of come down and play that

2078
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 8: nickel or cat linebacker hybrid dB in the three four

2079
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 8: and then Jacob Finley has had a great time. Antoine

2080
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 8: Peak is still punching balls out. I would like to

2081
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 8: see a little bit more from the quarterback play. I

2082
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 8: think that there's a little bit of confidence that just

2083
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 8: needs to be built.

2084
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,959
Speaker 13: What I will say is Brooks Goodman a true freshman.

2085
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 8: From what I've seen what I'm hearing, he's kind of

2086
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 8: much further ahead than what zeb Kenzie and Samas Jones

2087
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 8: were as true freshmen, Like he has the intangibles, the

2088
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 8: arm talent, the arm strength, the accuracy to kind of say, Okay,

2089
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 8: this is a guy that we could see playing football

2090
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 8: for us in the next couple of years. But yeah,

2091
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 8: it's an senior year because I really have no idea. Like,

2092
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 8: I was very confident in this team before the twenty

2093
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 8: twenty five season. I just thought they had a lot

2094
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 8: of top of the roster talent and then the receiving

2095
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 8: game is gonna match well with Brennan Soresby this year. Like,

2096
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 8: I think they're going to be much better defensively because

2097
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 8: of the scheme and who's running it and be in

2098
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 8: like the personnel that they have. But offensively, I just

2099
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 8: really really don't know. I think they're gonna try to

2100
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 8: run the ball a lot and try to get a

2101
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 8: bunch of turnovers and then maybe if J. C. French

2102
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 8: or whoever the starting quarterback is can play well enough,

2103
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 8: they can steal a couple of games.

2104
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: You feel pretty good about an opportunity to repeat in Bloomington.

2105
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 3: Have you seen any of their spring practices yet?

2106
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, Josh Hoover's already got my Heisman vote. Okay, basically,

2107
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 8: whoever's playing quarterback for Indiana's gonna win the Heighs one.

2108
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Were you disappointed that Indiana turned down an invitation to

2109
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: the n IT.

2110
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 13: No, they don't play in any postseason.

2111
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 3: We wow, unbelievable.

2112
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 13: I got a mouse in my pocket. You don't have

2113
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 13: to say anything.

2114
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 3: One day, Indiana basketball will be great again.

2115
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 13: M it's very problematic language there, Austin. I I don't know.

2116
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 8: I feel like it just comes down to getting Brad

2117
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 8: Stevens as I go.

2118
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah small.

2119
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 4: I heard he was talking to John Cunningham today about

2120
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 4: your sees. Jeff, I don't know if that's true.

2121
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 3: It's a breaking news sounder. I'll thraw it.

2122
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 13: I'm the hot board for fifteen thirty. Yeah, that works.

2123
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 3: Kegan Man, thanks so much for taking time while you're

2124
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 3: divulging into March madness. We appreciate you.

2125
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 13: Absolutely chose one of your callers, Sea Wick.

2126
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, told me today that he used to play basketball

2127
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 8: with you in Western Hills and you would just shoot

2128
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 8: threes and not get in the paint at all.

2129
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 3: Still the same.

2130
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 13: It was kind of disappointing to me.

2131
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 3: Still the same. I like Sea Wick, same way, the

2132
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: same way I roll every Sunday right now. Keagan what's

2133
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 3: what's the way for folks to follow along with all

2134
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: your hot board coverage the Bearcats.

2135
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 8: Follow k nick is some forty two on X and

2136
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 8: then make sure you subscribe to barcut Journal seventy five

2137
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 8: percent off a year, get a four year for thirty

2138
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 8: five bucks.

2139
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 3: Goodness. A couple of days, you heard the man Keegan

2140
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 3: nickoson if they want to see you, where's he at

2141
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: in Hollywood? Go see Keegan hollyweend it'll be until like

2142
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 3: six o'clock. Go say Hires three, Autogram and betting. I'll

2143
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 3: give you gambling advice too. Uh kid, Thank you man,

2144
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 3: We appreciate you.

2145
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that is Keegan Nickison.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk to our guy, Bob man Jean from the

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Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati and Novacare. That happens next on ESBN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back as we roll

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Speaker 3: along a Thursday afternoon, sinteen three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's give ourselves an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 3: to our good friend Bob man Jean right now from

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Speaker 3: the University of Cincinnati and Nova Care. Little March madness

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Speaker 3: theme to our conversation today Bob, what's going on? How

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Speaker 3: are you tony?

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Speaker 6: Just you know, basketball season's over, so you know now

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Speaker 6: you've got to do all the clean up work, get

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Speaker 6: kids healthy, and get ready for you know, summer conditioning

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Speaker 6: and summer practices, thereding period, things like that.

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Speaker 3: Before I dive into the NCAA tournament and the quick turnarounds.

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Speaker 3: What does this time of the year look like now

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Speaker 3: for the basketball teams that didn't make the Dance, that

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Speaker 3: aren't playing in any type of postseason for the Cincinnati

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01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 3: Bearcats because it's now a very different world. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's guys that were playing with injuries that have to

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Speaker 3: get evaluated. There's guys that are going to be looking

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Speaker 3: into the transfer portal. There are players that are going

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Speaker 3: to be looking to be brought in. What does this

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Speaker 3: time now look like for you? Once the season wraps up.

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Speaker 6: And somewhere between the wild Wild West and you know,

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Speaker 6: you know the five hundred, you've got to eat kids

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Speaker 6: who've been healthy you got to get or injured. You

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01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 6: got to get them healthy. So you're working on, you know,

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Speaker 6: developing plans, conservative management plans or surgical plans for some

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Speaker 6: of the athletes. You've got some of the athletes that

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Speaker 6: are graduating, so you know, you're working with NBA teams

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Speaker 6: potentially to you know, give them their histories, what we've

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Speaker 6: been doing with them, how they you know, how they

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Speaker 6: handle injury. And then you've got guys who are going

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Speaker 6: to graduate and move on in their life and you know,

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Speaker 6: become real employee or employees, and so you're trying to

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Speaker 6: make sure when they exit that they're healthy when they

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Speaker 6: exit and they have what they need to be successful.

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Speaker 6: And then you've got guys that are ready to enter

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Speaker 6: the transfer portal. So it's kind of like I said,

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Speaker 6: it's it's the wild Wide West in terms of you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if if you will have or we

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Speaker 6: will have you know, ten players back, five players back,

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Speaker 6: or you know whatever. But you have to treat them

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01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 6: all the same. You have to make sure they're healthy

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Speaker 6: whatever they if they're staying, you have to make sure

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Speaker 6: they're healthy, if they're going to the next level or

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Speaker 6: if they're going to go into the transfer. So there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of work to be done over the next

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Speaker 6: four weeks until the end of school, at which point

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Speaker 6: then you know everybody starts to go in their own direction.

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Speaker 3: We saw this a little bit when we talked about

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Speaker 3: Hunter Green with the Cincinnati Reds. How much now falls

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Speaker 3: on your shoulders of conversations of you know, with guys

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Speaker 3: that maybe we're playing through some injuries, and now the

2200
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 3: conversation shifts to is this a situation where maybe you

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Speaker 3: address it surgically or can you do something that rest

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 3: and maybe some type of injection can help. What are

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01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 3: those conversations now look like with individuals.

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01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 6: Well, ninety five percent of cases are going to be

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01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 6: fine without surgery, So you know, you have to come

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01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 6: up with the management plan, whether it's using PRP injections

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01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 6: or you know, other potential conservative plans. You're only going

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 6: to operate on probably you know, ten percent of the

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Speaker 6: kids who us in which we know, no matter what

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01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 6: we do out the best outcome is to do a

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01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 6: surgical intervention. And that goes along pretty much with all

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01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 6: sports as you go through the college year. But for

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Speaker 6: the most part, at this point, we're very fortunate we're

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Speaker 6: going to be able to treat most of our guys conservatively.

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 6: You don't be able to come back and be ready

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01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 6: to play, because again you've got to remember, in college basketball,

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 6: there's really no off season. You've got guys that are

2218
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 6: already starting to work out, You've got guys that are

2219
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,879
Speaker 6: planning to go to individual training camps. You've got guys

2220
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Speaker 6: who you know will stay here or go somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: But college basketball really starts on June first, so you know,

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Speaker 6: you've got to get these kids ready to go. And

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Speaker 6: as I said, some of them are already in camps,

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01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,839
Speaker 6: some of you are already some of them are already training,

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Speaker 6: So you just want to make sure that you're getting

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Speaker 6: them as healthy as you can before they start again.

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Speaker 3: This time of the year, For those participating in the

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01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 3: NCAA tournament, it's an absolute, it's a treat, it's an

2229
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: honor to be able to participate in the tournament. But

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 3: with it comes some very hard decisions and quick turnarounds.

2231
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 3: Right if there's a team playing today and they win,

2232
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 3: they're playing Saturday. If they play tomorrow and they win,

2233
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,799
Speaker 3: they're playing Sunday, and then it's a quick turnaround next week.

2234
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 3: So what goes into that the rest and recovery with

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01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: these student athletes that are used to their routine of

2236
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 3: getting a couple of days off. And we talked about

2237
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 3: this in the NFL with Thursday night football after a

2238
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 3: Sunday game. How difficult does it become when you start

2239
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 3: talking about those one day off turnarounds in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: What you're looking at is how fast can you get

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01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 6: him to recover so that within forty eight hours they're

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 6: back on the court and competing at a high level.

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 6: And that really takes a concerted effort between the strength coach,

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01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 6: the athletic trader, other people on staff to say, okay,

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01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 6: what should we do today. Let's just do a simple

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01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 6: walk through. Let's work through getting our cold tubs set up.

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01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 6: And yeah, we know Mike right for our strength coach,

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01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 6: phenomenal guy. He would take our cold tub with us.

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01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 6: We would have normal text with us, we would have

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Speaker 6: all kinds of different megalities. So then we can get

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Speaker 6: the kids recovered to play that next event, because you're right,

2252
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 6: you only have that one day off and you've got

2253
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 6: to be ready to go again. So you do get

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 6: a little longer turnaround in between games, unless you get

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Speaker 6: stuck playing on a Sunday and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: the next rime you're playing on a Thursday. But even

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01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 6: that's more like a regular season. It's the back to

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01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 6: back where you're getting only that one day rested to

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01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 6: move on. So I think you have to be aggressive

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 6: with it. You have to make sure that you have

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01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 6: everything on the road with you because you obviously don't

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 6: play any of them at home. So and a lot

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 6: of times the hotels you stay at are very accommodying

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01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 6: to let us bring in the equipment we need in

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 6: order for us to be able to get the kids

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01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 6: to recover. It's like in Kansas City, you know, we

2267
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 6: played Tuesday, then we had to come right back and

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01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 6: play on Wednesday, and you know, we had to come

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01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,680
Speaker 6: up with a recovery plan for the kids so that

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01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 6: we were ready to go the very next day. So

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Speaker 6: if you survive your conference tournament, then.

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 3: You have a feel for sure you know.

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Speaker 6: What it's going to be like when you're in the

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Speaker 6: NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 3: I also think there's a conversation, and we've seen this

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01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 3: already with news coming out today about certain players, or

2277
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 3: even last night in the playing game with SMU, where

2278
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 3: you have a player that obviously it's winner go home

2279
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 3: at this point and they're just not there yet to play.

2280
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's one of those situations where the athlete

2281
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 3: wants to do everything they can to play, and then

2282
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 3: a lot of those situations say, well, if they advance,

2283
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 3: then the athlete will be ready. What goes into conversations

2284
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 3: like that? Because this is something that I'm sure for

2285
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 3: a lot of these coaches and players you dream about

2286
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 3: your whole life, and then you've got to have some

2287
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 3: hard conversations about whether to hold someone out or whether

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 3: you are okay to push something and go ahead and

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01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 3: give it a go. How difficult do those conversations become?

2290
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 3: And who is involved in those types of decisions?

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Speaker 6: Well, answer team that for you know, our team position, myself,

2292
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 6: the coaching staff, our strength coach.

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Speaker 2: And predominantly number one.

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Speaker 6: Person making that decision is going to be the athlete themselves.

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 6: So you know, our ethics drive the comment do no harm.

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 6: So in essence, if I have an injury that I

2297
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 6: think they will not make worse, there are team dots

2298
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 6: and I will sit with the coaches and say, hey,

2299
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 6: we think we can get them through it. Hopefully they

2300
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 6: don't get worse. There's always that potential and do we

2301
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 6: want that risk reward? Do we want to take that

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 6: risk potentially have the kid play, get us win or

2303
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 6: you know, the risk of if they play and they

2304
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 6: make themselves worse, then all of a sudden they're not

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01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 6: ready for the next game. So I know, I think

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01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 6: on the TV last night, I was watching the Miami

2307
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 6: SMU game and Sen you had a player that wasn't

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 6: quite ready and he would be ready by the next game.

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01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 6: But again, you have to weigh the risk reward. You

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 6: also have to do what's in the best interest of

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 6: the student athlete, and that is you don't want to

2312
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 6: put somebody out there who you know, at the end

2313
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 6: of the day is going to risk retear or making

2314
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 6: the situation worse. So and the next conversation, you know,

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01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 6: obviously the student athlete hasn't the number one say as

2316
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 6: far as I'm concerned, because they they understand the competitive

2317
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 6: level they're at, They understand what they need to be

2318
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 6: at in order to be competitive, and if they don't

2319
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 6: think they can be there, then you know, in most

2320
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 6: cases going to say I just can't do it. And

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Speaker 6: you know, it's happened to us a couple of times

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Speaker 6: this year where we've even warmed kids up in the

2323
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 6: game and after the warm up sit there and say, Okay,

2324
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 6: what do you think we're you at Are you at

2325
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 6: ninety percent? You know that's better than you know the

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01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 6: next dout they're.

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Speaker 2: Coming in, Or are you below that?

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Speaker 6: And we've had kids pull themselves after warm up. It's

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01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 6: just the way it is in any sport.

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01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 3: It comes down to obviously the will to want to play,

2331
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 3: but also the trust that is there between the training

2332
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 3: staff and the coaches and the individual athlete. And I'm

2333
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 3: sure they're families as well, which everything goes into those decisions. Bob,

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01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 3: thanks so much for your time. Enjoy the start of

2335
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. More importantly, enjoy some rest for yourself.

2336
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: Rest and recovery after the season is just as important

2337
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 3: for you as it is for the student athletes.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Tony. Especially as you get older, the rest

2339
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 6: period needs to be longer.

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Speaker 3: That's it, Bob, thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: You got it.

2342
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Speaker 2: Have a great day, guys.

2343
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Speaker 27: Dunnado's Pizza and Riverside Electric Bar. Now with the name

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01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 27: you need to know, Here's Moegger.

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01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 14: Not only might the Reds have the best defensive third

2360
01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 14: basement in baseball, but some say the Reds might have

2361
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 14: the best defensive player in baseball because Key Ryan Hayes.

2362
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 3: Might be both.

2363
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 14: Hayes won the National League's Gold Glove Award for third

2364
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 14: baseman last season after splitting the year between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

2365
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 3: In his two months with the.

2366
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 14: Reds, he often showed off his excellent defensive form, and

2367
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 14: for the fourth time in five years, Hayes led all

2368
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 14: third basemen with nineteen defensive runs saved. The Reds won't

2369
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 14: be asking Hayes to do a ton with his back,

2370
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 14: but he did hit fifteen home runs for the Pirates

2371
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 14: in two thousand. He's twenty three, and for what it's worth,

2372
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 14: he did Homer in his red stack Hugh last July.

2373
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:06,879
Speaker 3: Meet Red's third baseman.

2374
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 14: Keep Brian Hayes.

2375
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 27: For more player profiles, keep it here On ESPN fifteen

2376
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 27: thirty a message from dav.

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Speaker 3: This is March Welcome back since e three sixty. ESPN

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01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Just a quick minute here.

2379
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 3: Chad Brenda will join us for quick hits in just

2380
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 3: a few moments. He's in for Mowiger today. March Madness updates.

2381
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 3: Nebraska all over Troy seventy six forty seven. You know

2382
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 3: there was a thing going around social media yesterday. Austin

2383
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier in the show Troy doesn't take any

2384
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 3: elevators or escalators. I think people heard that and they're like, Oh,

2385
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 3: it's a tough team. They're gonna give Nebraska fits. Nebraska

2386
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 3: bludgeon Troy okay forty seven, Wisconsin in a tight one

2387
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:05,839
Speaker 3: forty one, thirty nine over high Point at the half.

2388
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 3: Louisville up ten over USF at the half, thirty seven

2389
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 3: to twenty seven and another game that just went final.

2390
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 3: The first game of the tournament comes to an end,

2391
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 3: and the Bruce Thornton career has come to an end

2392
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 3: as well. TCU, after a fifteen point lead was erased.

2393
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 3: Ohio State took a lead late in that game. TCU

2394
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 3: scored a bucket to make it sixty six sixty four

2395
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 3: with about four point one seconds left, and Ohio State

2396
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 3: did not get a very good look to finish it off.

2397
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 4: Oh fast, sixty six sixty four is what This is

2398
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 4: what infuriates me.

2399
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Speaker 3: Ye had four seconds?

2400
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to go to the length of the

2401
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 4: floor and you just did a real simple like give

2402
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 4: and go one pass the length of one pass and

2403
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 4: you have a bad half court shot, like you couldn't

2404
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,800
Speaker 4: come up with something better than that one pass.

2405
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 3: Like, I get it.

2406
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 4: That's not an easy situation to be in, but you

2407
02:00:57,800 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 4: made it harder on yourself.

2408
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 3: I just looked up. According to AI, according to UH

2409
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 3: to Google, you can typically get four to five dribbles

2410
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 3: comfortably in four seconds. What is well, I don't believe that.

2411
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 3: What is uh?

2412
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 4: Why did they know they didn't pass it? When you

2413
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 4: call it time out, it doesn't advance the ball, not

2414
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 4: in college. It's stupid. It doesn't women's basketball, so that

2415
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 4: was part of the problem. And didn't pass the ball.

2416
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 4: I just I thought that was I get it. You

2417
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 4: wanted you want the ball in the hands of your

2418
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 4: best player, which is Bruce Thornton. He inbounded it, immediately

2419
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,480
Speaker 4: got the ball back and had eighty five feet still

2420
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 4: to go to the rim. He went forty and just

2421
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 4: now hucked one. This is a different, different animal here.

2422
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 4: John wall once went full the full length of the

2423
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 4: court in four seconds to make a layup. And I'm

2424
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 4: not saying that you can in that situation, but the

2425
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 4: way TCU was guarding it, could you not make a

2426
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 4: pass that advances the ball a little bit further? I

2427
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:59,480
Speaker 4: mean they essentially threw it in by the baseline. Didn't

2428
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 4: like it, love it. Wish there was a better call

2429
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 4: there from Jake Diebler. But you know, higher state season

2430
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 4: has come to ans great to be in the tournament.

2431
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 4: It sucks to be the first Sometimes it's good to

2432
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 4: have that first game, unless you lose. Then it sucks.

2433
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 12: Yeah.

2434
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 4: Now, I mean there's really not much of a rooting

2435
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 4: interest for me. The rest of the way. I was

2436
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 4: just talking to one of my friends, and I'm like, Okay, obviously, well,

2437
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 4: now what I want Miami to do?

2438
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'm rooting for them.

2439
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 4: I guess, Akron, Okay, sure, I basically am rooting for

2440
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 4: anybody but Michigan, UCLA and Yukon.

2441
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if anyone in the Cincy three to sixty Challenge,

2442
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 3: if anyone picked Ohio State, If so, their bracket would

2443
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 3: essentially be busted. No, no one did. Nobody was dumb

2444
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 3: enough to that.

2445
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 4: Even my friends, most of us picked against Ohio State

2446
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 4: just because we've watched them enough to know who they are,

2447
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 4: which is typically not very good team.

2448
02:02:49,120 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what it is. Chad Brindle joined us next

2449
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 3: Quick Hits ESPN fifteen thirty eight.

2450
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 4: You guys not making fun of me, though, because you

2451
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,040
Speaker 4: know you can. Didn't say words. The only thing I

2452
02:02:58,080 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 4: got you to the tournament.

2453
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 3: The only thing I said was it just kind of

2454
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 3: felt like big boy, big twelve ball at the end

2455
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 3: of the game. Yeah, that's what you said. That's that's

2456
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 3: some serious cope, right. Chad Brundle's next dot ESBN fifteen

2457
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station w K one.

2458
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: Now it's time for a quick Hits on Tony Pikes

2459
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 1: six three was.

2460
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 3: Looking for Mo. Mo is Uh. I don't know, Austin,

2461
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 3: how many how many drinks deep? You think Moe is

2462
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 3: right now at the ground. A lot, a lot, a

2463
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 3: lot a lot. Mo is not in today. Chad Breundle

2464
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 3: is in today, and Chad Breundle is in tomorrow. We're

2465
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 3: not here tomorrow, Austin, ridiculous because of Kentucky basketball.

2466
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 4: Well, I had taken the day off regards, yes, and

2467
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 4: so did you. So yeah, I don't know why we

2468
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 4: keep blaming Kentucky.

2469
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky basketball is on tomorrow. Anyway, you don't have to.

2470
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean to take a day for it now, I

2471
02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 3: mean I still do. It's an off day, but this

2472
02:03:55,040 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 3: time tomorrow will be a couple of bourbons deep down

2473
02:03:57,680 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 3: in Louisville. I'll be right here, all right. You're gonna

2474
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 3: be in here tomorrow. You're in here today. Unfortunately, today, Uh,

2475
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 3: you're here and none of the TVs are working, so

2476
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 3: you can't really watch along with the action. Yeah.

2477
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 21: When I when I heard you guys talking about that

2478
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 21: on the way here, I almost turned around and went

2479
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 21: back home. I play a best of play ESPN Radio.

2480
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 21: Give me something, but not me what I can't watch disappointing.

2481
02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:25,000
Speaker 21: I can't watch games. No, I don't know who to

2482
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 21: blame either. I think Spectrum. You think it's an inside

2483
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 21: job here. No, No, somebody wants people to work and

2484
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 21: not watch the TVs.

2485
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that. Okay, I mean I have to

2486
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:36,360
Speaker 3: work tomorrow.

2487
02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 13: I have to talk about these games.

2488
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 3: Yep. Like this part of your job. This is part

2489
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:44,680
Speaker 3: of covering the tournament. It's unbelievable and a show.

2490
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 21: And my daughter has volleyball from seven.

2491
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 3: What are you doing? Well?

2492
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:56,320
Speaker 21: The girlfriend usually takes her on Thursdays, right, but she's sick.

2493
02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 21: Uh oh, so she's home, like she's not coming over. Yeah,

2494
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 21: So now I have to do that.

2495
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 3: And with that being said, you're gonna miss the start

2496
02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 3: of Keegan's Final fourteen BYU at seven to twenty five.

2497
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 21: Look, I know it sounds crazy. They don't have a

2498
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 21: bad draw, like they're not no bad like sleeper pick.

2499
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 3: But I wonder if they figured anything out down the stretch.

2500
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 3: In the last couple of games where they did play

2501
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 3: a little bit better.

2502
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 21: They better, they looked like they started to figure out

2503
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 21: how to play without Richie Saunders. But the concern for

2504
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 21: me is they couldn't stop a running nose. No, through

2505
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 21: the end of the season. So at some point in time,

2506
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 21: like aj Devants is incredible.

2507
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anytime you have arguably the best player in

2508
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 3: the tournament, you got a chance. Yeah, he's He's one

2509
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 3: of them, if not the top. I have a different

2510
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,040
Speaker 3: opinion on who I think is the best player in

2511
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 3: this tournament? Do you think Do you think I think

2512
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 3: Kingston Fleming? No, he just walked off the floor after

2513
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 3: a terrible Bruce Thornton. Play just got drawn up for him.

2514
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 21: No, Darius a Cuff, Okay, he's a dog.

2515
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2516
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 4: I remember somewhere what is craig Jacket where a dude's

2517
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 4: name is from Miami.

2518
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 3: I read somewhere that Hawaii doesn't switch any ball screens.

2519
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 3: If they don't switch a ball screen against a Cuff,

2520
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 3: he'll have fifty points easy. And this is the problem

2521
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 3: with this time of the year. Like I'm filling out

2522
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 3: a bracket and I just hear like tidbits, like I

2523
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:23,080
Speaker 3: heard that the guy for Troy and is like, we

2524
02:06:23,120 --> 02:06:25,400
Speaker 3: don't take elevators or escalators. I'm like, I like that,

2525
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna be tired. I'll take I'll take Troy. That

2526
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:32,879
Speaker 3: didn't work. They maybe should have mixed in An McNeese

2527
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 3: has the manager, the guy that walks out with the

2528
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:39,080
Speaker 3: boom box, like maybe he strikes still there? No, okay,

2529
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 3: well he lost to Texas. Do you think there will

2530
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 3: be folks from Xavier that head to Portland to heckle

2531
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 3: Sean Miller in tonight's game? How could you not? He

2532
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 3: is down again? Are you going to commit to the

2533
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 3: bit or what? Correct? Maine or Oregon? I think they're

2534
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 3: in Portland. That's why I just asked Maine or Oregon? Oregon?

2535
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:00,840
Speaker 3: Did I say Maine?

2536
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 6: No?

2537
02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 3: No, Oh, He's trying to see this is what happens.

2538
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 3: We're at the end of We're at the end of

2539
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 3: the day here. What do you got coming up on

2540
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:08,160
Speaker 3: the show today?

2541
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 7: Chat?

2542
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 3: Without watching any games?

2543
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 13: Nothing?

2544
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 21: Now I can't watch games like I'm just gonna turn

2545
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 21: the mic on and I don't know. Good luck, yeah,

2546
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 21: good luck. Well you weren't allowed to do play by

2547
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 21: play getting to begin with, right, I was going to do.

2548
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 21: I understand that, but I'm pretty sure Mode did play

2549
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 21: by play for the U c F game. I was

2550
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 21: on the phone with him. I'm not gonna do play

2551
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 21: by play, but like I'm still I would like to

2552
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 21: be able to knowledgeably talk about what's what you're seeing.

2553
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 21: I we will talk something about Miami last night. Offensively,

2554
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 21: that was impressive. I mean they had they had that

2555
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:48,720
Speaker 21: first half where they shoot the lights out. Then SMU

2556
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 21: starts to overextend and close out Miami's shot, Bacon back

2557
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 21: door cutting, like making them pay for their over aggressiveness

2558
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:01,040
Speaker 21: trying to take away the three, and then you got

2559
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 21: him in a blender yep, and then the three ball

2560
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 21: opened back up and they closed it out with a

2561
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 21: couple of threes.

2562
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:09,560
Speaker 3: But really the defense was what was Yeah, any this

2563
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 3: bit you see in their last who lost the nineteen turnovers?

2564
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 3: Anytime you play a game and you turn over less

2565
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 3: than five times, you're gonna have a chance to win. Yeah.

2566
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:20,400
Speaker 3: And Miami's they possessed the ball and they value the

2567
02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 3: basketball really well, and they run good stuff, like they

2568
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 3: know who they are. They're willing to share the ball,

2569
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 3: They're willing to take the right shot. That was the

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Speaker 3: big thing for me and watching them yesterday, was there

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02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:34,960
Speaker 3: really a point where you're like, I don't know about

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02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 3: that shot. I mean they fired up forty plus threes,

2573
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 3: but like very ly where you're like, oh, that's a force. Yeah,

2574
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 3: they get him in the flow of their offense. Well,

2575
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:44,240
Speaker 3: so we'll talk about them.

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Speaker 21: I still I don't understand this whole We're gonna keep

2577
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,200
Speaker 21: six pitchers, but we're not going to a six man

2578
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 21: starting rotation with the Reds. What happens when you need

2579
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:59,920
Speaker 21: that six guy and he hasn't been pitching a bunch

2580
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 21: and you haven't had him in Louisville working to extend

2581
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 21: his innings and get your pitch count up. Like, I

2582
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 21: just don't understand the strategy of, like, we want all

2583
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:14,320
Speaker 21: of our best guys here, if you're not gonna use

2584
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 21: one of them, right, whichever one it is, or however

2585
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 21: you configure that, I don't understand the like you have

2586
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 21: triple A for a reason.

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Speaker 3: It's a delicate balance because I get the side of

2588
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 3: wanting your best players on your big league roster, but

2589
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 3: you also want to make sure that these guys are

2590
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 3: developing as you go as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think they are going to use them,

2592
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:35,520
Speaker 4: just that two of them will pitch on the same day, basically,

2593
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 4: is that that? That's how I understood it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just again, there are teams that go

2595
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 3: by that I just I don't know for starting pitchers.

2596
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 3: How again, I think Nick Martinez was a was a

2597
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 3: bit of a unicorn. Yeah, they can kind of throw

2598
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 3: them at anything, Yeah, do that. I don't know for

2599
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 3: starters how difficult or different that is of a feel

2600
02:09:56,760 --> 02:09:58,000
Speaker 3: if you've got to go in in the third inning

2601
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:00,000
Speaker 3: or something like that. But I think Chase Burns would

2602
02:10:00,120 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 3: be the one best suited to be that guy.

2603
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 4: Yes, like he he doesn't start any of the games,

2604
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 4: but he'll come in and give you four innings.

2605
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 3: And maybe if you pair him with like a Williamson

2606
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 3: who's fastball is not gonna blow you away, and you

2607
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 3: show that and then come back with Burns, maybe that

2608
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:17,920
Speaker 3: makes them more difficult on a But now you're a.

2609
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 4: Reliever the other four days, right, exactly that And as

2610
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 4: we said to Charlie, but like that, that's the downside.

2611
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 4: That's why they aren't gonna do it for very long.

2612
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 4: I think they're just doing it to get through the

2613
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:31,200
Speaker 4: first couple of weeks of the season. And there is

2614
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 4: a risk. Yeah sure, and you're counting on you know,

2615
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,800
Speaker 4: those two guys to eat up basically a whole game

2616
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 4: and give your bulleten a break.

2617
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't feel great about the pitching staff right now. Yeah,

2618
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 3: the rings, any of it. But makes me a little

2619
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,920
Speaker 3: uneasy with his spring and he'll be in the opening starter. Yeah, like,

2620
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 3: and we didn't see that, Okay, Like the first two weeks.

2621
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 3: You take it for what it is.

2622
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 21: They're working on stuff, they're getting their arm back in shape, whatever,

2623
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:02,280
Speaker 21: and then you see start to draws on regress.

2624
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 3: When I get to under ten days before the season,

2625
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 3: I need to start seeing it, especially you're gonna be

2626
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 3: the opening day starter. Yeah, Like, it.

2627
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:12,440
Speaker 21: Doesn't feel like any of these guys have really got

2628
02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 21: stretched out, Like we haven't.

2629
02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. It worries me about the start of

2630
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,839
Speaker 3: this season. What is supposed to be the strength?

2631
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 21: Yeah today if your strength all of a sudden becomes

2632
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 21: a liability, like I don't feel great about where things

2633
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:32,360
Speaker 21: are in April.

2634
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they figure it out. But and then Bengals

2635
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 3: Bengals Bengels legit. Question.

2636
02:11:42,760 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 21: Is this defense across the board top to bottom better

2637
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,960
Speaker 21: than it was when the season ended, Charlie.

2638
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 3: Gold Smith said today and I hadn't hadn't talked about

2639
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:53,680
Speaker 3: it much. He said, it feels like on defense they're

2640
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:57,000
Speaker 3: in a rebuild. Which is weird to think about the

2641
02:11:57,080 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 3: offense that they have in this all in mentality, But

2642
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:02,720
Speaker 3: the moves they've made and the deals they've done feels

2643
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 3: like a rebuild.

2644
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 21: I like the guys they got in free agency. Don't

2645
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,560
Speaker 21: get me wrong. I like the three additions. Where where's

2646
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 21: the Is there any depth on this defense? If one

2647
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 21: guy outweigh the subtractions like I, I'm looking at it

2648
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 21: and I'm saying, okay, like you, you can get me

2649
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 21: on board with a couple of the moves. But when

2650
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 21: I when I zoom out and look at each depth chart,

2651
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 21: look at what's expected from each of the position groups,

2652
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 21: it gets bleak pretty quick. And that's that's not a

2653
02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 21: great thing in the NFL. That I mean, that's that's

2654
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:47,120
Speaker 21: dangerous that they don't have what what name one guy

2655
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:49,600
Speaker 21: that you feel like is a good depth piece right

2656
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 21: now on this defense?

2657
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 3: Hard to come by, not just one. That's it. That's

2658
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 3: insanely concerning. Correct, Correct, We're done. Chad Brendle is next.

2659
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:07,920
Speaker 3: For what it's worth. Louisville's opened up a fifty one

2660
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 3: to thirty five lead now over South Florida.

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Speaker 21: I fainted that, Like, I thought that was a sneaky

2662
02:13:13,160 --> 02:13:17,240
Speaker 21: upset pick until yeap once the one that everybody picks.

2663
02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 3: No, what's never? The one? Yeah never. Chad Brendle's next.

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Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your week, ESGN fifteen thirty,

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