1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from dou Wor. Here's Larry Minty 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: with more of the Wor Saturday Morning Show Welcome Back. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Reviews are now coming out on new Bruce Springsteen movie. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: New York Post entertainment critic Johnny Oleazinski has seen it, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: So what did he think? Here's the answer. I'm almost 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: afraid to ask you. I want the Bruce Springsteen movie 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: to be good so much I'm afraid to ask you 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: what you thought of it? 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: It is good? Oh good, it is good. I saw. 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: I was at the New York Film Festival premiere the 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: other night. Bruce was there. Jeremy Allen White, who plays 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: and was there. Bruce did an impromptu performance at the end, 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: which was pretty cool. I love Bruce. 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: What did he say? 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: He's saying a promise land Wow. So it was very 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: very cool. And in my review I get so. I 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: gave it three stars, and there was a lot of 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: comparing it to a complete unknown, the Bob Dylan movie, 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: which I also I love that ever slow slightly more. 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: This was three stars. That was three and a half. Bruce, 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I think is harder because the image of Bruce is 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: so much in our brains, especially young Bruce because he 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: was plastered all over his albums, whereas Timothy shallow May 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: had some creative leeway with Bob Dylan. I think the 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: other thing. And plenty of listeners might disagree with this. 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: I think Bruce in his twenties and thirties had the 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: most extraordinary voice. And some people don't think Bruce is 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 2: a great singer. I think he is a fantastic singer. 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: Jeremy Allen White, it gives it from the Bear, gives 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: a great acting performance, really moving, because this is about 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: Bruce's struggles with depression and his memories of his dad 32 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: while writing Nebraska. The movie is all about him almost 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: breaking down while writing Nebraska. He Jeremial the Bear not 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: a singer. Oh no, no, no, no no. And he 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: did his own singing like like tim Because now, if 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: you want to win the Oscar, if you want to 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: get there, you have to do your own singing. You 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: have to do all those interviews with us say oh 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: how long did you practice? And oh you know it's 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: not atrocious. But when Bruce does a growl, it's exciting. 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: When jeremial Wan does a growl, go, you know, do 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: you want me to get you a cough drop. It 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: just sounds like his vocal cores are having a rough time. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: But I do like he is good. The movie is good, 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: especially for Springsteen fans like me. 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: You'll like, do they limit the singing? How could they? 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: Isn't It isn't like the Bohemian Rhapsody sort of movie 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: where it's all these concerts. It's really more about his 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: emotional experiences. And it's by the way, it's not like 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: it Bruce was born and all the way to present day. 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: It's just about nineteen eighty two. 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: We'll have to bring up Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: next time, unless you have a quick comment. 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: I read that Nicole Kidman partly split apart because she's 55 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: been doing so many sex scenes recently. No, really, she's 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: been doing sex sings forever. She's been stripping since the 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: beginning of her career. 58 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: A I certainly is causing a ruckus out in Hollywood 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: right now because Tillie Norwood is not non existent. She 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: is completely AI. But you she could full anybody. I mean, 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: when you look at her real and she has a 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: real she looks like a human being, and I'm sure 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: that Hollywood has to be freaked out about this. 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: Well they are and they can't stop talking about it. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: It brings back memories of the strike and when they 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: you know, the sag after strike, when they were freaking 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: out over being replaced by AI. That was a big 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: reason for that strike. And now this woman that's created 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: Tilly Norwood, what a name? The woman who created Tilly 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: is saying, Oh, everyone's racing to sign Tilly, and I 71 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: don't fully believe that. There's a lot of open questions 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: about who this person is. She says she was an 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: actress that wanted to create an actress or it's her 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: art project or whatever. But yeah, it spooked a lot 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: of people. I still until we really see these things 76 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: in action, like let's do a whole awful Lord of 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: the Rings movie starring Tilly Norwood and her AI friends, 78 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: and you know, they start kind of you know that 79 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: uncanny Valley thing where you can just slightly tell they're 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: not real, or we won't know or will say, wow, 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: that's the best the actress I've ever seen. Then we'll 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: know if what the real threat of this is. But 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: for now, I look at, uh do you ever read? 84 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes cheap websites will do articles that are clearly written 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: in AI, and they're riddled with factual errors and the 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: sentences are a little off. I don't think the technology 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: is there yet. 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Well, it looks pretty good. I mean, it's a short 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: real it looks pretty good, and if something goes wrong 90 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: you can always fix it. I mean, you know, doing 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: retakes is free. But I can't imagine the ramifications of that. Look, 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: she's going to get apart, there's no question in my mind, 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: because everybody's going to see it. Everybody's going to go 94 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: watch it, and so I just think that Hollywood would 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: love this. The people that run Hollywood, not the people 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: that have the jobs, the people that run Hollywood. To 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: be able to have actors and actresses they can control, 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: that's a dream come true. 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: Hollywood loves not spending money. That's one of their favorite 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: things to do. Order money extremely unwisely. Where you see 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: a three hundred million dollar movie and it looks like, 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, a buck fifty, you're probably right. And I 103 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: don't know how SAGAFTRA could convince what they could put 104 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: in a contract to say you can't do this right now, 105 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: it's in their contract. I believe you can't replicate Brad 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: Pitt without asking for his consent and compensating him fairly. 107 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: And of course obviously that is what they should do, 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: but they've sort of suggested bargain it. If you use 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: an ai actor, then you have to pay. You know, 110 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: have this many live actors. I think it's a whole 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: giant mess. 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of giant messes, how did you like Keanu Reeves 113 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Waiting for Goodot? 114 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: That a very good segue, incredible taking the words right 115 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: out of my mouth? Oh oh so he and look 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: I like I like the john Wick movies. I like 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: the Bill and Ted movies. I like half have one 118 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: of one quarter of the Matrix movies. So I like 119 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves. Like what he can do on a uh. 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Beckett is not john Wick. John Wick barely talks and 121 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: that and that is very well suited to Keanu Reeves. 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: Not speaking, kicking, karate chopping, glaring at the camera. That's great, 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: but that's a skill to make that interesting as a skill. 124 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: Uh in Goodough is just so far out of his league. Weirdly, 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: you know who is better in Waiting for Goodough is 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: Alex Winter who was his opposite and Bill and Ted? 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: I this is uh uh and final jeopardy I don't know. 128 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: I really they're kind of they're like Beavis and Buttead. 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: I often forget which was which. But Alex Winter, who's 130 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: become a documentary filmmaker in recent years, weirdly, he is 131 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: pretty good. He is good, and maybe he is not 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: burdened by our expectations since we don't see him as 133 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: well this kind of oh look at this discovery almost 134 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: But with Keanu Reeves, I just thought he it's it's 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: like watching someone you know that phrase when they say, oh, 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: I had paid watch you read the phone book. The 137 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: audience paid to watch him read the phone book, and 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: it just was someone reading the phone book. I'm afraid 139 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy dollars top ticket by this. 140 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's ridiculous. Yeah, so I'm not going to 141 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: say it. 142 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't care, no, nor should you. Hey, by the way, 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: just do you know Alex Winter was Bill? Oh? Just 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: so we all know now, because you know everybody was 145 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: going to be thinking about this all day. 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to eat away with me. Thank god, 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: thank god you told me that. New York Post entertainment 148 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: critic Johnny Oleczinski. 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: This has been a podcast from w O R.