1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Leaving the news conference that is being held right now 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: in Providence, Rhode Island. I think that most of the 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: important information has been gleaned from that news conference, and 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the questions are becoming somewhat repetitious. What 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: we have learned in the news conference is that the 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: shooter in this case, both in Rhode Island and in 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Brookline as a forty eight year old man, Claudio Nevis Valente, 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: who was a student at Brown University from the fall 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: of two thousand to the spring of two thousand and one. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: He was pursuing a doctorate in physics, which would mean 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: that he must have received his undergraduate degree elsewhere, and 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: he took a leave of absence from Brown. What they 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: have been telling us essentially is that there was a 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: second person whose picture is still picture was released yesterday, 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: and that that individual had at some point apparently had 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: a conference Haitian with this guy Valenti before the shooting. 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: The confrontation was described in one instance as being on 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: the street and another instance when they were inside the building. 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: And whether or not he followed Valenti into the building, 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: it's a little unclear, but there was a confrontation. It 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: was his information that provided the authorities with some leads, 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: including I guess the fact that there was a rental 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: car tags at a rental car. They were able to 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: work back to the rental car agency and get a 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: clear photograph of Claudio Nevis Valente when he rented the 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: rental car. He apparently had for some time been in 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: the area, having flown up here. He's from Miami, living 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: in Miami, flown up here sometime in October. So there's 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot of information that will follow. There was a 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: news conference that is scheduled to start in Boston with 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the US attorney dealing more with the murder of the 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: professor from Mi T. There was one mention at the 33 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: news conference that apparently they both had graduated from the 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: same university in Portugal. They attended the same university in Portugal, 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: that is as the Brookline professor. Now. The Brookline Professor's 36 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: forty seven years of age and obviously has been a 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: pretty successful scholar, and that could provide a motive, a 38 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: double motive. We will never know for what unless he 39 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: left some writings behind for what this guy, Claudio Nevis 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Valenti has done killing two Brown students in an auditorium 41 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: which is being used as a study school, a test 42 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: I guess, a test prep. I never had that opportunity 43 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: when I was in college. You went and you opened 44 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: your book and you study by yourself. But I guess 45 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: they would have again a study group prepping for the 46 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: final exams in the very building that He probably was 47 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: a student at Brown in a PhD program in the 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: year two thousand to two thousand and one. He eventually 49 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: left that program, took a formal withdrawal from the program 50 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty twenty one. Initially he took 51 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: a leave of absence. So this fellow must have had 52 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: some bad experience with the MIT professor, or at least 53 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: have some background with the MIT professor, because the MIT 54 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: professor's forty seven, this guy's forty eight. They apparently went 55 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to the same undergraduate college in Portugal and must have 56 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: had some interaction there. And then again, he is believed 57 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to be responsible with the murder of Professor Nuno Lorrero, 58 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: forty seven, shot to death at his Gibbs Street home 59 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: in Brookline on Monday night. So we're going to wait 60 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: for the news conference. We're going to take a break 61 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: for now that news conference to the best of our knowledge, 62 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: has not begun as soon as the news conference with 63 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the US Attorney in Boston, Leah Foley. We will get 64 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: to that news conference in the meantime if you would 65 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: like to call in and make a comment on as 66 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: stunning as this crime, or these two crimes were, the 67 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: conclusion to the investigation is equally stunning. The perpetrator, the 68 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: suspect is now apparently killed himself in a storage facility 69 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: that he had previously rented that storage facility. I'm sure 70 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: we'll be subject of a search warrant, if not later 71 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: today tomorrow in New Hampshire. We'll take a quick break. 72 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: We are not going to do a newscast. We're going 73 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: to catch up on some commercials and then we'll come 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: back and open up the lines. If you'd like to 75 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: join us, I will tell you that I had intended 76 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: tonight to talk about the long standing debate between some 77 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: people who want to see more public cameras on streets 78 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: and buildings. Obviously, people can have a camera on their house, 79 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: no problem. But then there are folks in different communities 80 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: who feel too many public cameras basically invade the personal 81 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: security the privacy of individuals it's a long standing debate, 82 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: but this particular instance showed that there should have been 83 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: more public cameras and better quality public cameras on the 84 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: campus of Brown University. And maybe this guy, maybe he 85 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: was smart enough to figure out that there weren't very 86 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: many cameras in the building. We'll never know in the 87 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: building where he committed his first total dastardly, cowardly act. 88 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: So we'll take a break. If you like to join 89 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: the conversation we'll be talking about for the rest of 90 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: the night. You can weigh in six one seven, two, five, 91 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: four to ten thirty six one seven, uh, six six 92 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Either of those 93 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: lines will get you on six one seven, two five 94 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one 95 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: ten thirty. We're gonna go uh for just a few 96 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: minutes for commercial, but we'll be right back nightside will 97 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: continue again. I want to thank Bill William Martin, the author, 98 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: who spent about forty minutes with us, thirty thirty minutes 99 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes in the nine o'clock hour. I will 100 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: bring William Martin back sometime in early or in mid 101 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: January to conclude that conversation, and I think the callers 102 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: who did call in on that back on Nightside right 103 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: after a few commercial messages, You're on Night Side with 104 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio. All right, 105 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: we're waiting now for a news conference out of Boston. 106 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: But the US Attorney Lea Foley, obviously that news conference 107 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: would fill in some of the questions that were unanswered 108 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: at the Rhode Island news conference. And again that's much 109 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: more about a jurisdictional respect we had we were going 110 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: to and we will tonight talk about the controversy that 111 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: has been around for many years. You know, as as 112 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: as cameras and technology progressed. A lot of communities, including Cambridge, 113 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: have placed cameras in their communities and they can be 114 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: can be used in many ways. They're able to be 115 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: used for example, now when when someone drives by a 116 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: school bus and the school bus has the stops of 117 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: sign out on the side of the school bus. You 118 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I've seen those stories. They can help recreate traffic accidents. 119 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of positives about it, and yet there 120 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: are some people who feel that they limit people privacy, 121 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: their rights to privacy. And I know that we're going 122 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: to talk about it's a long standing debate. But we're 123 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: joined by Cambridge City Councilor Patty Nolan, who today we 124 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: knew that there was a little bit of a controversy 125 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: recently in Cambridge. We're not building the story around Cambridge tonight, 126 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: but Councilor Nolan, I guess heard about it or read 127 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: about it, and she called in while that news conference 128 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: was going on. So I thought what better way to 129 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: break from the news conference and start a longer, broader 130 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: conversation about the benefits or the detriments of cameras, particularly 131 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: cameras operated by cities and towns municipalities. So Councilor Nolan, 132 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: welcome to night's I thank you for calling in earlier, 133 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: and thank you for sticking around for us. It's kind 134 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: of been a crazy night here, as I'm sure you 135 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: can understand what is your thought. I'm not necessarily looking 136 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: to get deep into the weed on what's going on 137 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: in Cambridge, but my understanding that there was some cameras 138 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 1: that were put up and then there was some complaints 139 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: by the public, and it's kind of an age old question. 140 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: I know that I remember doing a story like this 141 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: in Brookline many years ago, and cameras can benefit and 142 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: I guess some people are not as comfortable with the 143 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: presence of public cameras. When I was a television reporter 144 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: and we would be shooting pictures on any street, whether 145 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: it was Boston, Cambridge or wherever, people would come up 146 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: to us and say you can't take my picture. And 147 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: I always tried to be polite. I'd say, well, in fact, 148 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: if you're on a public street and we want to 149 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: take pictures, we can take your picture off you'd like 150 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to ask me not to take your picture, I have 151 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: no interest in taking your picture. But I'm just wondering 152 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: what is the sense of the council over there, what 153 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: is your sense as an elected public official in Cambridge. 154 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: So I agree that there's a real controversy and there's 155 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: frozen cons and you have to balance exactly what you 156 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: talked about, which is safety and a way for us 157 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: to look into how it is that people behave and 158 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: certainly solve crimes. And there's also not just a privacy 159 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: issue but a surveillance issue. And I'll say just very briefly, 160 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: back in February of this year, the Council was asked 161 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: to approve and accept a grant to deploy license plate readers. 162 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: I actually voted against that with two of my colleagues 163 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: because of concerns about surveillance. And then over the next 164 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: six months that was a six to three vote and 165 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: it passed. Only three of us voted against. And then 166 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: over the next few months what we heard was it's 167 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: not only just about cameras, because I will say I 168 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: have supported cameras under other circumstances. I have supported deploying 169 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: cameras for use in our cities. I wish the state 170 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: this would be a great time for the state to 171 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: allow any municipality and the Commonwealth to use cameras for 172 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: traffic enforcement, for red lights or for speeding. We are 173 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: not allowed to do that. Cambridge has request did it 174 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: from the state legislature, and they have refused to act 175 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: on it. These license plate readers, I. 176 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Could ask, I'm just curious. Yet, I'm just curious, why 177 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: has the state not allowed a municipality. If I'm not mistaken, 178 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: and if I'm wrong, please correct me. That in Cambridge 179 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: you can use cameras when people parking bus stops. I 180 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: think is. 181 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: That, yes, we're trying to do that. Somerville could do 182 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: that believe it or not, just because of a quirky 183 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: weirdo thing in state law Boston and Cambridge. Boston and Cambridge, 184 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: we have applied to the legislature. It looks like that 185 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: will go through. We will soon be allowed to use 186 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: cameras to do to have parking tickets. Somerville has already 187 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: deployed that lots of other cities in the country, and 188 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: then the Commonwealth health But we'll get there, but on 189 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: the specific license plate readers. The reason we then, after 190 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: hearing some stories, the council unanimously then in October voted 191 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: on a policy order I put forth with two of 192 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: my college s coonsor so being a Wheeler and councor 193 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: Sadiki to say, what we're hearing is that this particular company, Flock, 194 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: is having this data not be totally controlled by the 195 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: city and not completely protected. So there were reports that 196 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: it was being accessed by ICE for immigration raids, that 197 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: it was being accessed by in at least one instance, 198 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: by someone exercising their legal right to healthcare date consering 199 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: the data. 200 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: Yep, Council, I hate to interrupt, but we have to 201 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: now join a news conference from the US Attorney's Office 202 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: but let's do this. I promise you that if we 203 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: do this subject later tonight, within the next hour or so, 204 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: if you call back if that's too late, then the 205 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: next time. 206 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: Use cameras for this search. So it'll be really interesting 207 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: to figure out whether how that was, how that unfolded. 208 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for covering it. 209 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll get back to you. Okay, thank you 210 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: very much. In the time. We're going to now go 211 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: to a news cottage, and I believe that we would 212 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: be listening to, amongst others, the US attorney and Boster. 213 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: She is the US attorney in. 214 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: Voizukoff and injuring nine others. Between December thirteenth and December fourteenth, 215 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Nis Valente returned to Massachusetts. On December fifteenth, he murdered 216 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: MIT Professor Nuno Lurierro at Louriro's home in Brookline, Massachusetts. 217 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: At some point while he was in Massachusetts, he switched 218 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: the plates on the Nissan CenTra to an unregistered plate 219 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: out of Maine. Immediately following Professor Luriiro's murder, Neves Valente 220 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: drove to a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire, where 221 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: he had rented a storage unit in November of this year. 222 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: Since the December thirteenth shootings at Brown and the December 223 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: fifteenth shooting in Brookline, State, local and federal law enforcement 224 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: officials had been working hand in hand around the clock 225 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 3: to a identify the shooter and prevent him from inflicting 226 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: further harm. 227 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 4: I have said this before. 228 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: And will continue to believe when law enforcement agencies work together, 229 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: crimes are solved and the public is protected. The information 230 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: we provided to you tonight would not be possible without 231 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: the dedicated men and women of law enforcement in multiple 232 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: districts throughout New England, including the FBI atf HSI, the 233 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: US Marshall Service, Massachusetts State Police, Rhode Island State Police, 234 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: Providence Police, Brookline Police, and the Brown University Police. In addition, 235 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: prosecutors from the Rhode Island Attorney General's Office and the 236 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: Norfolk County District Attorney's Office, and federal prosecutors from Rhode Island, 237 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, and Massachusetts all contributed to this result. I 238 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: also want to thank Attorney General Pambondi for her support 239 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: in coordinating the federal response. 240 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's all telling about his motive and the two 241 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: set some victims and how they might be related to 242 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 5: how he might be related to them. 243 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: That is not information that we can share right now, 244 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: but as soon as that information becomes available, we will 245 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: share that with the public. 246 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 6: Are you able to say anything of what led you 247 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: to link the two crimes? Perhaps inies and you can 248 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 6: have questions so that you can hear any more. 249 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: Yes, The question was how were we able to link 250 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: him to the two crimes? So investigators identified the vehicle 251 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: that he had rented in Boston and then drove to 252 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: Rhode Island, and he was seen in the vehicle, was 253 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: seen outside of Brown and there was security footage that 254 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: showed a person who resembled him. There was online there 255 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: was financial investigations that were going on in the background 256 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: that linked him not only to that car, but also 257 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: to the hotels that he had rented and the cars. 258 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: The car that he had used to not only drive 259 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: to Rhode Island but then. 260 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: Back to Boston. 261 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: And then there was a security footage that captured him 262 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,239 Speaker 3: within a half mile of the professor's residence in Brookline, 263 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: and there is a video footage of him entering an 264 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: apartment building in the location of the professor's apartment, and 265 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: then later that evening. He is seen about an hour 266 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: later entering the storage unit wearing this same clothes that 267 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: he had been seen wearing right after the murder. 268 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 6: You have an extensive video canvas as part of this 269 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 6: investigation that leaves you no doubt. 270 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: This is the evidence we have right now. 271 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: We are coming to you tonight because the federal complaint 272 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: was unsealed and we wanted to provide you with the 273 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: information into shure the public that law enforcement collectively believe 274 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: that we have the person, that we identified the person, 275 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: and that person is dead, and that he was the 276 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: person responsible not only for the Brown shootings but for 277 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: the Brookline shooting. 278 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 7: Can you speak to before himself reflected the contract? Was 279 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 7: there any interaction with free law enforcements? And that wasn't say. 280 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: Like anywhere is. 281 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 7: Exchange or anyththing like that. 282 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: Now, when investigators went into the storage facility tonight to 283 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: execute the federal search warrant, he was dead. 284 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: Do you think he entered there, this is me. 285 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 4: No, he entered an hour after what happened to Brookline. 286 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: Yes, And do you know how long that story did 287 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 7: he rent? 288 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: That? Like? 289 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 7: How long? 290 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 3: Our understanding from the financial investigation is that he had 291 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: rented a storage facility at the location in Salem, New 292 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: Hampshire in November. 293 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 6: Can you confirm whether or not he used the same 294 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 6: weapon in the Brown shooting as he did at the 295 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 6: MIT shooting. 296 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Ballistics investigation was ongoing and has not been completed at 297 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: this time, so we're not going to comment on that. 298 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 5: Can you give us any sense of when you started 299 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 5: to recognize perhaps that you know he was the same person. 300 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 5: I know it was in the video, but when it 301 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: sort of gone on investigators that these two cases. 302 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: Were we're related. 303 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: It was in the last twenty four to forty eight 304 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: hours that my understanding, According to my understanding is when 305 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 3: the link began to be established, and that was mainly 306 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: he was using a phone that was obtuly skating ability 307 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: to track it, and he was using financial like not 308 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: credit cards that were tied to his name, and so 309 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: he was sophisticated in hiding his tracks. 310 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 7: According to the big was on sal so that that 311 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 7: is on Onete and and my some professor had attended 312 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 7: the same academic programs together PORTIONALNE and accis. 313 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: Do you know if they knew each other or my 314 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: understanding is that they did know each other. 315 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 7: Have they been in communications since that last day. 316 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: I don't have any information to bride you would you 317 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: go as targeted. 318 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: We're still investigating the motive in this case and trying 319 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: to because, like I said, he was very careful in 320 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 3: his communications and we just don't have any information right 321 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: now to answer that question. 322 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: But when we get that information, we will share it. 323 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: The storage locker in which his body was found, my 324 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: information is that No, was. 325 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 7: That satchel in the story? 326 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 327 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: What was that? 328 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 5: The question that can't hear you online? 329 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: The question was was there anything else in the storage 330 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: unit aside from the defender's body? And the answer is 331 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: he was found in there with his satchel. There was 332 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: nothing else found in there that I am aware of, 333 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: but there's still They're still in the process of searching 334 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: that facility right now. Right away, we don't have any 335 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: information when he killed himself, but he was dead when 336 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: investigators found his body. 337 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: Do you tell us anything. 338 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: About his life? 339 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: Like I think he was special now coming out of 340 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: was in Florida? 341 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 7: Like what he was doing, was he working, was he 342 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 7: in the field of physics which he had studied? 343 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: Any any sort of biographical stuff to tell us about. 344 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: Him, because his identity was only become aware to us 345 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: in the last twenty four hours. I can't provide you 346 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: with any of that information right now, but I'm sure 347 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: once we have a full understanding of what he has 348 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: been doing where he has been aside from the time 349 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: when he entered into New England in November, we will 350 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: provide that information. 351 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 7: Did you know any of the victims at Brown University 352 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 7: of personally? 353 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: We have no information that he knew any of the 354 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: victims or anyone who was at that auditorium on the 355 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: time in the night that he went in and killed. 356 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 5: To be able to find anything about it when he 357 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: did attend wrong. 358 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: Whether there were the issues and day briefly was he 359 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: kicked out? You know that information hasn't been provided to 360 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 4: us yet. 361 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 6: Given what you see on the video of the MIT 362 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: professor's home, is there any doubt that he was the 363 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 6: intended target of the of the killing. 364 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: The information that I know, and again you know, the 365 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 3: investigations are going to continue to be able to provide 366 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: you with all the answers that you were asking, is 367 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: that there was no doubt that he was the intended target. 368 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Okay, we have been picking up audio here that is 369 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: the US Attorney Lea Foley Uh, and she provided a 370 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of context in just a few minutes. She actually 371 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: is a very impressive, accomplished attorney, and she's just recently 372 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: been appointed the US attorney here in Boston, and she 373 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: has handled herself very well. She clarified that the deceased, 374 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: this man, who has been identified as Claudio Nevis Valenti, 375 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: has been using credit cards which were difficult to track, 376 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: to hide his tracks, and that he indeed had been 377 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: at the same school college in Portugal as his victim, 378 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: the professor from MIT, and that they did know one another. 379 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: As far as she said, she didn't know, but she 380 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: assumed they did. Professor Nuno Loriar Loreo, who was forty 381 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: seven years of age, this god was forty eight years 382 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: of age. So they obviously were there at the same time. 383 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: They were at this college in Portugal from nineteen ninety 384 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: five to two thousand. So the motives will never hear 385 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: the motives unless this guy has left some sort of 386 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: a manuscript, but certainly the motives have become very very clear. Tonight, 387 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: we're going to take a break, and when we come back, 388 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: we're going to continue our conversation. General conversation about privacy 389 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: concerns and public cameras. Wish that we had had more 390 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: public cameras in Rhode Island on Saturday, that's for sure. 391 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: My name's Dan Ray and this is Nightside. It's a 392 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: tough night here on Nightside. We apologize for any little 393 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: blips away, but we're doing the best we can and 394 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: we're going to go to Dan Watkins right now and 395 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: bring you up to date with the eleven PM news. 396 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightthside. We'll be 397 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: back if you want to jump on board. You know 398 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: the numbers. Give us a call.