Speaker 1: We hear about tariffs, we hear about trade wars, we
Speaker 1: hear about trade deals, and the latest big one was
Speaker 1: the deal with China. And apparently a deal has been
Speaker 1: made as far as again, and I follow this stuff
Speaker 1: as far as I can discern, there is a deal
Speaker 1: with China.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but this is certainly the biggest one
Speaker 2: when you think about how much stuff we get from
Speaker 2: China and how much they get from us, how much
Speaker 2: they get from us. That's right.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to our financial guy about it. He is
Speaker 1: one of our most popular guests. He is Bill Dundy,
Speaker 1: his CPA money manager, and he speaks to us on
Speaker 1: these on these matters all the time. Bill, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's great to be with you. And it's kind
Speaker 3: of funny.
Speaker 4: A few years ago, nobody but the biggest nerds we're
Speaker 4: talking about tariffs and duties and trade wars. But now
Speaker 4: we're all like daily conversations like the I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's like football, who's on top, who's got the best
Speaker 4: opportunities in the future. And it's kind of interesting that
Speaker 4: China is one of those that has been most difficult
Speaker 4: to deal with, partly because we deal with them so
Speaker 4: much already. It's kind of like a family relationship. Those
Speaker 4: are sometimes the most challenging when you have a lot
Speaker 4: of interaction with each other. It makes it a little
Speaker 4: bit more difficult to say I wanted you to change
Speaker 4: your behaviors in this way or that way. And China
Speaker 4: has pushed hard back on the US, and the US said, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: we're going to reconsider no one hundred percent tariffs, but
Speaker 4: we'll continue where we are today. And that looks like
Speaker 4: a win for everybody. And I don't know, I say,
Speaker 4: it's a lot like families that are squabbling, because you
Speaker 4: and your brother can get upset with each other, and
Speaker 4: y'all might get into a pushing match, but you don't
Speaker 4: want to You don't want to pull out the guns
Speaker 4: or anything. I mean, I just want to work it
Speaker 4: out somehow. And that's kind of what's been happening with
Speaker 4: Trump and she As we've been going through the last
Speaker 4: few months together.
Speaker 1: Bill Dendy's our guest, and Bill well As you just
Speaker 1: heard us talking. What is this, What does this entail
Speaker 1: with China?
Speaker 2: This is this so called deal? What's going on here?
Speaker 4: Well, China did not like us any extra tariffs and
Speaker 4: of course they wouldn't, and we had a lot of
Speaker 4: reasons early on for the tariffs. The last round has
Speaker 4: been fentanyl. Precursor elements come out of China. So for
Speaker 4: all the phentohn has been produced, China is like the
Speaker 4: very earliest source, and that they were a little bit
Speaker 4: more controlling on who they send that out to, we
Speaker 4: might be able to curb the fentanyl problem. And so
Speaker 4: that that's been the latest. But prior to that, it
Speaker 4: was intellectual property that they didn't enforce some of the
Speaker 4: intellectual property of laws as vigorously as we wanted, and
Speaker 4: then the labor conditions not to world standards and things
Speaker 4: of that nature that have come up in the past.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that we depend on China for a lot
Speaker 4: of things. Uh, they they need us to buy their goods,
Speaker 4: We need them to buy our bonds for our loans
Speaker 4: for our government debt. And now we just found out
Speaker 4: we need them real bad for these rare earth minerals
Speaker 4: that are used in things like lasers and industrial magnets
Speaker 4: and all sorts of things. And if they turn off
Speaker 4: that supply, well, well that really is kind of the
Speaker 4: trump card, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and those earth minerals or what some are
Speaker 2: used in a lot of technology stuff like what TVs
Speaker 2: and iPhones and.
Speaker 4: What you got it Almost everything we depend on every day,
Speaker 4: from our iPhones to our televisions, to our laser guided systems,
Speaker 4: to our defense instruments that are used by a military,
Speaker 4: to our industrial magnets that pick up the big car
Speaker 4: magnets that pick up that. Those are rare earth minerals
Speaker 4: that are using those magnets as well, So they have
Speaker 4: both the heavy and the light rare earth minerals that
Speaker 4: again only the nerdy geologists used.
Speaker 3: To talk about.
Speaker 4: But if you cut off the supply of ninety percent
Speaker 4: coming out, well, that makes everyone slow down. And we
Speaker 4: had manufacturing have to slow down when China tightened up
Speaker 4: the reins a few months ago.
Speaker 3: And so when they say we're going to go if
Speaker 3: you terrify us one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent, we're just nowhere for you, nowhere for you,
Speaker 4: and that's gonna be really bad.
Speaker 5: Well, no good, it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be bad for them too. So it's one of
Speaker 3: those deals that they don't really want to do it,
Speaker 3: but they do have this powerful position.
Speaker 4: So I think it's one of those things where you
Speaker 4: tell your brother Hey, if you don't back off, I'm
Speaker 4: going to hit you right between the eyes.
Speaker 3: And you're like, ah, he is bigger than they. He
Speaker 3: could hurt me, but he doesn't want to hurt me.
Speaker 3: We're gonna work this out.
Speaker 4: But he could and you don't want to then have
Speaker 4: to hurt him back. And so that's where I think
Speaker 4: both parties finally got to and they're like, Okay, we
Speaker 4: don't have to do the hundred and turiffs. If you're
Speaker 4: quit trying to sneak your stuff in around the back door,
Speaker 4: we can leave it alone. It will be about forty percent
Speaker 4: like a lot of other places, and I think that's
Speaker 4: where it's going to probably end up for the next
Speaker 4: few months, allowing the room for both sides to have
Speaker 4: a little victory.
Speaker 2: Well, Bill, along those lines, are you're talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the iPhones and TVs, things that you know we we
Speaker 2: use or uh, you know every day everyday Americans use
Speaker 2: and you know, so much of our clothes things we
Speaker 2: buy on Amazon. I mean I bought a few shirts
Speaker 2: on Amazon last week and you know, both made in China.
Speaker 2: Given that on you know that that everyday types of
Speaker 2: things that you know, not necessarily we're buying the stuff
Speaker 2: every day, but things that we use every day, what
Speaker 2: are we looking at in terms of how much the
Speaker 2: cost of those things are going to go up? Generally?
Speaker 4: Well through this embedded there, Well, they're embedded in so
Speaker 4: many of our items, but it's a small piece of
Speaker 4: the overall components of it that we probably won't see
Speaker 4: our electrons going up forty percent, but we probably will
Speaker 4: see according to economists who are doing the work, ten
Speaker 4: to fifteen percent increases across the board. And it's not comfortable,
Speaker 4: but I think we've had about with inflation, and if
Speaker 4: we see another five to ten percent on the things
Speaker 4: we love, we won't like it, but we can survive that.
Speaker 4: We couldn't survive not having them, or have them double
Speaker 4: or triple the costs. And I think that's kind of
Speaker 4: where we're going to end up on this. And what's
Speaker 4: interesting is just a threat of no suit for you,
Speaker 4: no rare minerals for you. Well, the US and Austraia said, hey,
Speaker 4: we have to be able to make our own.
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 4: We don't have to be dependent on forever, we just
Speaker 4: have to be dependent on for right now.
Speaker 3: And it takes a while to get this stuff set up,
Speaker 3: so it's.
Speaker 4: Actually causing more investment and things that might as should
Speaker 4: have been started a few years ago anyway, So there
Speaker 4: may be some positives in this area and more investment
Speaker 4: going into an area that was costalgian and it didn't
Speaker 4: make sense if you could get them out of China
Speaker 4: for such a low cost. But if it won't becoming
Speaker 4: out of China for whatever the reason, then it might
Speaker 4: make sense for new injury.
Speaker 3: The barriers to entry, well, they're.
Speaker 4: Still there, but if the costs go up so much,
Speaker 4: those barriers become less daunting. So we're starting to see
Speaker 4: even talk just in one week about new investments in
Speaker 4: these areas so that we don't have our dependency and
Speaker 4: kind of like we've lost our dependency on foreign oil
Speaker 4: where they say that the US now produces more oil
Speaker 4: than Russia, more oil than Saudi Arabia. The US has
Speaker 4: gone from not producing as much as we need to
Speaker 4: producing more than the.
Speaker 3: Rest of the world. That gives us lower.
Speaker 4: Pricing, but more importantly, more can troll pricing less volatility
Speaker 4: going forward.
Speaker 3: And so what we might see is we start strategically.
Speaker 4: Thinking about eliminating that leverage from the from our trading
Speaker 4: partners going forward. Yet a lot of economis said that's
Speaker 4: really not efficient. You should let the lowest cost producer
Speaker 4: produce it and let the US do what they do well,
Speaker 4: which is ingenuity and creation, and that everyone should give
Speaker 4: up these trade barriers like tariffs, but have free trade.
Speaker 4: And so there are a number of economists who are
Speaker 4: not happy with the way things are going, but others
Speaker 4: who will then say, we never really had free trade.
Speaker 4: The US was not tariffing other countries, but they were
Speaker 4: protecting their industries and they had bearers to entry that
Speaker 4: we had to compete against. And by offering terroiffs the
Speaker 4: other direction, it makes it a more level playing field
Speaker 4: and creates income for our government. But it's really the
Speaker 4: assumer that pays that extra income for the government. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of like a I don't know, a new
Speaker 4: kind of tax.
Speaker 2: Yep, big time.
Speaker 1: Bill Dendi's our guest, and Bill, let me ask you
Speaker 1: that With that, With that in mind, here the last
Speaker 1: two months of the year, ed, put your financial advisor
Speaker 1: hat on here for a second. How do you see
Speaker 1: the markets reacting to all this rigor role this has
Speaker 1: been going on with the tariffs and the taxes and
Speaker 1: this and that and the other.
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of interesting. The market tends to
Speaker 4: be a leading economic indicator. They like to get ahead,
Speaker 4: like when things are sad, they're already going up, and
Speaker 4: when things are and when things are good, they already
Speaker 4: start the way down. But there are a lot of
Speaker 4: things in this week that could happen. They would be
Speaker 4: positive for the market, and the market is at his
Speaker 4: all time highst because.
Speaker 3: They're already anticipating good things happening.
Speaker 4: And those good things include the FED meeting and they
Speaker 4: say they're going to lower interest rates.
Speaker 3: The expectation is they're going to lower interest rates a
Speaker 3: quarter point.
Speaker 4: If they come out and they lower rates by a
Speaker 4: half a point, that would be so positive that the
Speaker 4: market would probably have a little extra bonus reaction. We
Speaker 4: have a number of high tech companies releasing earnings tomorrow
Speaker 4: and the next day, and these earnings reports that they
Speaker 4: come out good, that would be positive for the overall
Speaker 4: market and can boost it up.
Speaker 3: And it's China deal. If it comes out of that, yes,
Speaker 3: we have reached an agreement.
Speaker 4: And even though some things are going to cost more,
Speaker 4: we know what that more is going to be, and
Speaker 4: all this uncertainty will be eliminated for a while.
Speaker 3: That would be very positive.
Speaker 4: And so you have a few things that could certainly
Speaker 4: make the market happier and we could see an increase.
Speaker 3: But keep in mind the market has already baked in
Speaker 3: a lot of.
Speaker 4: These things, so if any of those things does not
Speaker 4: go the way the market wanted, it could be a negative.
Speaker 3: So what did I say. I said it could go
Speaker 3: up or it could go down if it changes it
Speaker 3: all And I know that's not much help.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the market.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are good reasons for seeing the market near
Speaker 4: all time highs, and there are good reasons it's climbed
Speaker 4: this wall of worry. The news is always sounded bad,
Speaker 4: but the market continued to move up. We've had one
Speaker 4: of the best bull markets ever and at the same time,
Speaker 4: we've got a lot of news stories that are concerning.
Speaker 4: But as one thing gets resolved after another, is if
Speaker 4: Hamas and Israel really you know, at least of the
Speaker 4: hostage positive market loves that. If we start having peace
Speaker 4: breaking out all over the world, and we start having
Speaker 4: earnings reports coming strong and we have lower interest rates,
Speaker 4: that mean that consumers can consume more and companies can
Speaker 4: expand more. All those things are positive, but keep in
Speaker 4: mind there is a little shadow out there as the
Speaker 4: unemployment numbers seem to indicate that we're having and one
Speaker 4: of the reasons the Fed may lower interest rates a
Speaker 4: little more than a quarter point is that the employment
Speaker 4: numbers are starting to crap back up, and the Fed
Speaker 4: wants to keep Americans fully employed as possible. But that's
Speaker 4: kind of a negative out there. If people aren't working
Speaker 4: and they don't have the money to coup, to consume,
Speaker 4: and to care for themselves, that can be a negative
Speaker 4: and a long term re sessions trap. So those are
Speaker 4: the things that.
Speaker 3: Are in play.
Speaker 4: Which way they're going to work out, Probably positive on
Speaker 4: the short term, could be very positive we get any
Speaker 4: surprises on any of those three items, but a lot
Speaker 4: of good it's already be baked into the market.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Without Bill Dandy, We will let you go, buddy. It
Speaker 1: is always our pleasure.
Speaker 3: God bless you. Always good talking to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks care Bill Dundy. He's financial strategists. You can find
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Speaker 1: Well and Thanksgiving she starts. I remember last year she
Speaker 1: started making food. I'm not kidding you if you remember this.
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Speaker 1: have us, Me and Deb and the boys. So there's
Speaker 1: only four of us. So I make a turkey. We
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Speaker 1: the turkey ot pretty much. But at Tandy's house, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a week long, oh long ordeal. It's Giving
Speaker 1: gra and she just goes for it. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: remember talking much about Thanksgiving, but she seemed I want
Speaker 1: to talk to her about her her dynamic with her husband,
Speaker 1: because it seems like she would be way into it.
Speaker 1: But I can't see her, her husband, who I know
Speaker 1: very well, being all that wound up about it.
Speaker 2: But ah, no, I could see him, but we were
Speaker 2: super excited. The energy, oh the energy level three. Yes,
Speaker 2: I want to know what he is. He dressed up
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Speaker 1: Back with Eddie and Jason Williams in for Rocket Today
Speaker 1: and Jase here it is around about this time on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday. And that means we talked to this person
Speaker 1: right here Rise for the Queen, Tanyo roorg WCPO nine News.
Speaker 1: Tanya here it is. Jason and I were just talking
Speaker 1: about you. We weren't talking about you behind the back.
Speaker 1: We were talking about it here on this scene.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 1: We were talking about all this fifty thousand, that flame thrower.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but no, we were talking about the fact
Speaker 1: that you tend to be really holiday gung ho.
Speaker 2: Shall we say right.
Speaker 16: Yes, that is true.
Speaker 1: No, it's I don't remember. Are you crazy big about Halloween?
Speaker 1: Because I was we were talking about I remember you
Speaker 1: talking last year that you started cooking for Thanksgiving on Saturday.
Speaker 17: Before that is that's a fact, Jack. However, I will
Speaker 17: tell you Halloween is my least not least favorite holiday.
Speaker 17: I like Halloween. I like it, fine, I don't like
Speaker 17: scary movies. I don't like being scared, So I'm annoyed
Speaker 17: that every time I turn on the TV, only movies
Speaker 17: offered are like stream and It and all that Stuff'm like,
Speaker 17: come on, but but I did decorate for Halloween. It's
Speaker 17: more like decorating for Fall. But yeah, like I mean,
Speaker 17: and I'm really excited. I love seeing the kids come.
Speaker 3: We get a.
Speaker 16: Ton of kids.
Speaker 2: I remember you. We've been on before when you've talked
Speaker 2: about this. Yeah, my gosh.
Speaker 17: Yeah, you should see that. We have three giant bowls,
Speaker 17: biggest bowls. I own three giant bowls filled with candy already,
Speaker 17: and which is really bad for my waistline right now
Speaker 17: because I walk by them multiple times in the day
Speaker 17: and find myself sneaking twizzlers. And then oh there's a
Speaker 17: resy cup. Wait, hold on a butterfinger.
Speaker 1: You know it's not good that little bite sized breezy cup.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna kill anything.
Speaker 1: Oh and there's a little baby, baby baby ruth boom.
Speaker 17: That's right, like pops in your mouth, goes right in.
Speaker 17: And then I just had a cookie at work. That's
Speaker 17: some very nice wife of an employee makes cookies for
Speaker 17: us every day, I'm not kidding you. And today she
Speaker 17: made cookies with like every Halloween candy, like chocolate candy
Speaker 17: could think of Eminem's Snickers or whatever. And she cuts
Speaker 17: them up and she puts them in one can't one
Speaker 17: cookie and it was divine.
Speaker 8: And I'm like, why am I eating this?
Speaker 16: Why am I eating this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: My goodness, that gave me diabetes.
Speaker 8: Oh trust me.
Speaker 17: I have a head rush like you can't believe right now.
Speaker 17: I mean, my gosh, it's so good.
Speaker 2: So yeah, don't you dress up? Do you dress up?
Speaker 2: And Eddie and I both are wondering does your husband
Speaker 2: dress up?
Speaker 17: I have gotten him dress up one time, I'll do
Speaker 17: tell yeah, go to We had to go to a
Speaker 17: Halloween party, and so it was as lame as you
Speaker 17: can possibly imagine. But I always kided with my kids
Speaker 17: that I was Mary Poppins growing up, like practically perfect
Speaker 17: emphasis on the practically. So I was Mary Poppins and
Speaker 17: he was a chimney sweep. It was kind of cute, right,
Speaker 17: very cute. I have photo I have photographic evidence that
Speaker 17: he's banned me from giving anyone.
Speaker 16: But we yes.
Speaker 17: But I don't dress up a lot, although for work,
Speaker 17: like I have a really cute blax skirt that looks
Speaker 17: like a cobweb and like witches shoes and then like
Speaker 17: socks that I can wear their like orange and black
Speaker 17: striped so they look like, you know, the witches socks.
Speaker 17: So I'll probably wear that to work on Friday, I'm
Speaker 17: working the eleven. I'm working late that night because my
Speaker 17: my co anchor has little kids. He wants to make
Speaker 17: sure that he sees them trigger treat and my kids
Speaker 17: are like, you know, old, so so yeah, I'll probably
Speaker 17: wear something like that on Friday, with like a black
Speaker 17: turtleneck and call it a day. But I'm not like
Speaker 17: going to dress up on camera something. What if something
Speaker 17: terrible happens, I can't look weird.
Speaker 2: Do you have you ever dressed up one camera before
Speaker 2: over your career during.
Speaker 17: The well, I've dressed so so the really nice folks
Speaker 17: at the Bengals have a couple of times allowed me,
Speaker 17: and I'm sure they would if I did it again.
Speaker 2: I thought about doing this.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I dressed up as Joe Burrow and so they
Speaker 17: gave me his uniform, which was really cool, like even like, okay,
Speaker 17: he wears his socks like he wears two different socks,
Speaker 17: one pulled up, one push down, so you have to
Speaker 17: wear them like that. I'm like okay. And I walked
Speaker 17: around downtown like an idiot, like.
Speaker 2: Talking to man on the on the job like man
Speaker 2: on the street, interviews and stuff.
Speaker 16: I went and did interviews. Yeah, and I did good
Speaker 16: Joe Burrow.
Speaker 17: I mean, I look so dumb, so dumb, but it's
Speaker 17: fun and it's comfortable.
Speaker 18: So no.
Speaker 1: Tell you when you're anchoring on Friday. You got to
Speaker 1: talk to my wife. She can loan you a pair
Speaker 1: of her ear rings. She got a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: At Findley Market, there was a lady but you know
Speaker 1: they have the little vendors there selling different craft craft
Speaker 1: jewelry and stuff, and this lady had Halloween ear rings.
Speaker 1: So she has a pair of ear rings that are guillotines,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and a pair of ear rings that
Speaker 1: on each year she has the twins from the shining
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 17: Are they the ones who said red rum red?
Speaker 1: They're the ones who stand in the comment with us
Speaker 1: Daddy's creepy Yeah, where we saw those, I was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta get those.
Speaker 19: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I mean, who's whose wardrobe is incomplete?
Speaker 16: About that?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 17: So yeah, I don't see. That's the thing though, my
Speaker 17: job is not like fun in that way, Like I
Speaker 17: can't wear super fun things. Yeah, we're having a bangle special.
Speaker 17: I can be an all orange and stuff, But goodness, gracious,
Speaker 17: could you imagine, like, you know, we have a government
Speaker 17: shut down and I'm got this giant.
Speaker 1: Marriage because you have giant, massive car wreck on I
Speaker 1: seventy five?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Yeah, So so I'll keep like maybe my shoes and
Speaker 17: my skirt will be something for super pictures if I
Speaker 17: do it. Will you guys dress up? I mean, let's
Speaker 17: not all late this on me. Do you guys have
Speaker 17: fun with this holiday?
Speaker 1: I haven't dressed up in years, but I used to
Speaker 1: get into it a little bit when I was a
Speaker 1: much smaller man one year.
Speaker 2: This is a ton You remember when I was so
Speaker 2: skinny and tiny, I went, I hear.
Speaker 1: That now, well, but a little real I was a
Speaker 1: I was a smaller back in the day. And I
Speaker 1: actually went to like whatever Kmart at the time or
Speaker 1: Target and got one of those kids outfits.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It was a Spider Man outfit, was like kind of
Speaker 1: the plastic latex stuff and squeezed myself into it and
Speaker 1: I had and I just you know, had the Spider
Speaker 1: Man mask going.
Speaker 2: And that's what I wore to a Halloween party one time.
Speaker 17: Wait, wait, you could fit into a child customers.
Speaker 1: Well, I was Husky or whatever, the biggest one they made.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I got into it.
Speaker 2: I don't I get into it, just you know, walking
Speaker 2: around with the kids and uh and you know we
Speaker 2: have still treating. Yeah, they're twelve and eight, so we're
Speaker 2: getting getting pretty close to the twelve year old phasing
Speaker 2: out here and I next few years, but not if
Speaker 2: they're smart. I mean, I have eighteen year old in
Speaker 2: my front door.
Speaker 17: I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, that's going on.
Speaker 17: That's like, do you You don't walk around with them anymore?
Speaker 2: To the right now, that this will be the first
Speaker 2: year where I won't be walking around with anyone. Last year,
Speaker 2: you know, we did the when he was eight years old.
Speaker 2: But we have a we have a street, were old street,
Speaker 2: like you like you all like we've got a ton
Speaker 2: of trick or treaters. So I like, I grew up.
Speaker 2: I grew up on a farm in Gallia County in Appalachia, Ohio,
Speaker 2: and we didn't do any And I was telling Eddie this, like,
Speaker 2: so I'm like super into just the fact that all
Speaker 2: these kids come up to my door and whatever they're wearing,
Speaker 2: and I just that alone is just fun to see
Speaker 2: people and the energy of just the whole evening is
Speaker 2: I get a kick out of it. Sounds sounds like
Speaker 2: I'm seven years old. I get a real kick out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 16: Hey, you get a kick out you kick out of it.
Speaker 17: We have to like I don't know if your neighborhoods
Speaker 17: like this, but some of the fun people on our
Speaker 17: street were like for the parents, they have like you know,
Speaker 17: cold beverages for them because they're walking with their kids.
Speaker 16: Do you guys have that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I there was my my brother in law. He is
Speaker 1: a neighborhood like that, and he would have like a
Speaker 1: we went out. We took our boys out there one
Speaker 1: year because they had their son as the same age
Speaker 1: as Jack, and he had a fire pit out in
Speaker 1: his driveway and we do that. Several of the guys
Speaker 1: were gathered around. We're all sitting sipping beers and watching
Speaker 1: the world go by.
Speaker 17: I suspect that since it's a Friday night this year,
Speaker 17: this is going to be extra rowdy. He's not going
Speaker 17: to be wet, it's not going to be so cold.
Speaker 17: And so that's why I bought extra candy this year.
Speaker 17: I mean, my husband went and bought candy and I'm like,
Speaker 17: that's all you got, And He's like that's a lot
Speaker 17: of candy. And I'm like no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 17: So I went and bought like double so because I
Speaker 17: just didn't I envisioned that it could get ugly.
Speaker 2: You don't want to run out. That's the worst he
Speaker 2: ran out.
Speaker 17: I think it was last year, and it was like,
Speaker 17: I'm so sorry to turn off all the lights.
Speaker 16: I was like, oh, so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It was so bad, giving out like cans of peas
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, right, here's a.
Speaker 1: Quarter, right, here's a quarter, and throw a can of
Speaker 1: tomato soup in there.
Speaker 17: He's expensive.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm getting old. You've had your colleague John matt Reese,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about that. Wow, it's up big time.
Speaker 17: I think we spent over one hundred dollars on candy
Speaker 17: this year for giveaway. And and I'm maybe and getting
Speaker 17: to that age where I'm like, now why do we
Speaker 17: do this? Like why are we?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 17: I know it's they're so cute though when they show
Speaker 17: up his little princesses and the little all their doorway.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the little princesses and uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: little pirate guys or whatnot are cute. But like you
Speaker 1: were saying, those eighteen year olds who show up dre
Speaker 1: like right, get off my porch.
Speaker 2: But then they have a pillowcase for their right because
Speaker 2: they want to fill that thing up.
Speaker 17: Yes, my oldest son Liam, he had to handout candy
Speaker 17: cause I don't get home in time for the start
Speaker 17: of someone the air, so I get home like forty
Speaker 17: five minutes late for Trigger Street and so he would
Speaker 17: standing out for me a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 17: he dressed up This is a six foot one kid,
Speaker 17: right with a beard, and he dressed up as Tinky
Speaker 17: Winky from the tell Tebbes Ye so purple, right, and
Speaker 17: yeah he's purple.
Speaker 12: And he's being like super.
Speaker 17: Obnoxious to these kids, like the cute ones, Like if
Speaker 17: you were cute, He's like, oh my gosh, you get
Speaker 17: a handful of candy, you know, like whatever. And then
Speaker 17: you'd have like the eighteen year old show up in
Speaker 17: like just a hoodie and he's like what are you
Speaker 17: and they'd go oh and if they didn't answer right away,
Speaker 17: you go back in line figure out something else. And
Speaker 17: so he would make them go to the bag cool
Speaker 17: and I just sat there like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 8: And they go to the back of line.
Speaker 17: And then they come up and like, well I got
Speaker 17: thrown out of school, Like I'm a kid who got
Speaker 17: thrown out of school. They come up with some wild
Speaker 17: stories like okay, that's good enough.
Speaker 2: He give them like one piece of candy.
Speaker 18: I'm like, oh my god, the egg.
Speaker 2: Eggs making the kid go back an invent backstory.
Speaker 17: You better come up with a good story. I'm not
Speaker 17: giving you anything unless you give any a good story.
Speaker 17: Because you know, there was no costume involved at all,
Speaker 17: but it was I mean, I have to admit it
Speaker 17: was really funny.
Speaker 1: So all right, Well, don't get your house egged or
Speaker 1: toilet papered this year. Don't run out of candy again.
Speaker 17: Trust me, If we do, it's going to be a
Speaker 17: bad situation. Maybe I'll leave it all first.
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Speaker 1: By bringing up the Bengals and her thoughts on that,
Speaker 1: because in case you would don't know this, Tanya Roork
Speaker 1: is indeed, and I think self admittedly obsessive about the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes she is. What was when she went to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and covered the Super Bowl? She borrowed
Speaker 2: someone's It was like this really cool like custom Bengals
Speaker 2: tiger jacket. It was like super cool. I think she
Speaker 2: made it.
Speaker 7: She made it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she makes the she makes that kind of bling
Speaker 1: and yeah, she came up with some kind of wacky
Speaker 1: bedazzled Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was when you know you're a true diehard fan
Speaker 2: when you're making your own you're making your own gear.
Speaker 1: And she goes and I and she this ain't someone
Speaker 1: a patch on a jacket, right, You've got to see
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Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in other news, Jace, now see you think you
Speaker 1: hit it sometime because I used to where were you?
Speaker 1: Outdoor country roads all the time where we used to live,
Speaker 1: and so I was always worried, especially at night a
Speaker 1: deer because they as we all know could just fly
Speaker 1: out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: I think we've had between my mom and dad and brothers,
Speaker 2: I think we've hit five deer in our is a
Speaker 2: driving career, Yeah, I mean where we lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I came close one time, but I ever clipped one.
Speaker 1: Well this is in is Zimbabwe, so things are a
Speaker 1: little different there. And unfortunately a guy died yeah in
Speaker 1: this bizarre accident that happened the windshield happened, well, it
Speaker 1: happened a couple of weeks ago. The fellaw's name is
Speaker 1: uh Desiree. Maybe is it a guy, but anyways, it
Speaker 1: is Desiree Moyo.
Speaker 5: So uh so.
Speaker 2: Mister miss Moyo whoever?
Speaker 1: And four of these people were driving along this highway
Speaker 1: in the night and they crashed into an elephant. Oh,
Speaker 1: the other occupants of the car were uninjured. One of
Speaker 1: them said the elephant was struck on its backside after
Speaker 1: the car hit it in the butt. It turned around
Speaker 1: and attacked the car and that's how he died with
Speaker 1: on the attack.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It is believed the elephant's reaction did the most damage
Speaker 1: and led to Moyo's demise.
Speaker 2: What what what country was this? Zimbabwe? It wasn't in Florida.
Speaker 2: It wasn't in Florida.
Speaker 1: And let's let's say whatever they still.
Speaker 2: See. I'm not trying, I mean, you know, but but.
Speaker 1: Still, man, imagine running and running into an elephant and
Speaker 1: had it turn on you that that sounds like Now
Speaker 1: I'm going to have a nightmare about this time we had.
Speaker 1: We have diet an elephant attack and I'm a nightmare.
Speaker 1: We have a family friend that hit a buffalo out
Speaker 1: and ah, yeah, I've heard that Tanner, Wyoming when they
Speaker 1: were driving across the country and uh, buddy, they take
Speaker 1: it seriously out there. Man, that's a major fine if
Speaker 1: you like you don't make every effort to get out
Speaker 1: of the way of it.
Speaker 2: Coming up.
Speaker 1: We're going to be talking to our good friend, our
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Speaker 20: Cincinnati, States bringing legal action as the shutdown threatens tens
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Speaker 20: joining twenty four other states and the District of Columbia
Speaker 20: in a lawsuit that challenges what they call the Trump
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Speaker 21: The two Democrats to virtual news conference to call on
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Speaker 22: If these credits aren't extended, nearly one hundred thousand Kentuckians
Speaker 22: with insurance plans through our state marketplace called connect could
Speaker 22: see up to thirty seven percent higher premiums for twenty
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Speaker 21: President Trump and GOP leaders say they will consider extending
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Speaker 1: Get ready for reluctant to this day and age, there's
Speaker 1: a news story, multiple new stories every day about it,
Speaker 1: it seems like, and that's the reason this guy is
Speaker 1: staying in business. He is our good friend, our tech expert,
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter, and Dave I will say it again. I've
Speaker 1: said it to you a couple of times now that
Speaker 1: we used to kind of laugh about it and give
Speaker 1: you a hard time because you're so paranoid. And now
Speaker 1: the more we talk to you and the more I
Speaker 1: read it was like, oh my god, Hatter's not even
Speaker 1: tunneled as half of it.
Speaker 18: No doomsday. Dave wasn't quite as nutty as he's seen.
Speaker 23: Right.
Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, guys, I wish it weren't the case.
Speaker 18: I really do, because these attacks that we're seeing are
Speaker 18: increasingly frequent well, and they're increasingly impactful one in some
Speaker 18: cases devastating both the individuals and organizations. I wish it
Speaker 18: weren't the case, but sadly it is.
Speaker 5: Well. The one.
Speaker 1: The first one I wanted to talk about this was
Speaker 1: on sixty Minutes last week, and this is the one
Speaker 1: we've talked to most about. And I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of us, I know, I've been worried about this forever.
Speaker 1: When our enemies in this case, it seems to always
Speaker 1: be the Chinese, even though I know the Russians have
Speaker 1: dabbled in it and who God knows who ell is,
Speaker 1: But the Chinese were discovered to have infiltrated a water
Speaker 1: treatment plant at a little town in Massachusetts now and
Speaker 1: completely taking it over, right, David.
Speaker 18: Yeah, guys, I'm glad you brought this up, because this
Speaker 18: is the kind of stuff that really does keep me
Speaker 18: up at night. I think you best know in my
Speaker 18: spare time, I'm the mayor fort right now. Thankfully, we
Speaker 18: don't provide these kinds of services to our residents. You know,
Speaker 18: the water comes from the Northern Kentucky Water District, Sanitation
Speaker 18: Sanitation District, electricity is duke, but we do got to
Speaker 18: make sure that the ambulance's role in the police role
Speaker 18: when they're called. And you know, when you look at
Speaker 18: this sort of threat to society, right, this is so
Speaker 18: far beyond now just oh we lost some money, or
Speaker 18: we lost some data, or some sensitive information was exposed
Speaker 18: on the internet. We're talking about attacks that affect the
Speaker 18: physical world and potentially could cause deaths, right. I mean,
Speaker 18: if someone could take control of a water processing plan
Speaker 18: and change the amount of chemicals doing and look up
Speaker 18: the Oldsmore water plant and flater for example. Or again
Speaker 18: this is a recent story just from you know, the
Speaker 18: last month or so. These kind of attacks are increasingly frequent,
Speaker 18: and most local governments do not really have the resources
Speaker 18: to take this on. You know, most of them don't
Speaker 18: have some nerd like me it's directly involved, and I
Speaker 18: think a lot of them still don't really take these seriously.
Speaker 18: So I'm really glad you brought this up, but I
Speaker 18: want to fill out a huge shout out to Ohio.
Speaker 18: You guys may not realize that in Ohio they're leading
Speaker 18: on this cybersecurity front on many levels as a state,
Speaker 18: and not the reason which is recent passage of House
Speaker 18: Bill ninety six, which requires local governments in Ohio to
Speaker 18: take various cybersecurity actions for lacks of better where, including
Speaker 18: building a cybersecurity program to protect their constituents, taxpayers, et cetera.
Speaker 18: So it's it's a really smart plan. It's a huge improvement.
Speaker 18: I'm trying to get something like this done in Kentucky,
Speaker 18: but if you live in Ohio, you should be thankful
Speaker 18: to know that at least at the state level, they're
Speaker 18: taking this seriously, and they are requiring local governments throughout
Speaker 18: the state, which would include any sort of you know,
Speaker 18: water district or something that is collecting taxpayer funds, rate
Speaker 18: payer funds. They're going to have to get serious about
Speaker 18: doing this, and I think it's long overdue because that
Speaker 18: story you guys just point out shows this is a
Speaker 18: real threat that's happening every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was reading the story, Dave, and
Speaker 2: what's really I think the Actura scary is nothing necessarily
Speaker 2: happened there in Littleton, Massachusetts. But the FBI found that
Speaker 2: the Chinese government remained they had taken control of the network,
Speaker 2: or they knew the passwords or whatever for lack of
Speaker 2: a better term, but they just kind of remain dormant
Speaker 2: about it, and that's that's really scary. And then the
Speaker 2: story was on to say that the Chinese have access
Speaker 2: to two hundred utilities in small towns and what what
Speaker 2: what what's the the end What did they do?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What what's Yeah? What's the endgame here? And what could
Speaker 2: really happen?
Speaker 18: Well, that's a good question, Jason, and you guys may recall,
Speaker 18: because I'm pretty sure we've talked about it on your show.
Speaker 18: You know, it's not just things like this, it's the
Speaker 18: telecom network, right, The FBI was warning about Chinese Communist
Speaker 18: Party infiltration and the telecom network. And if you think
Speaker 18: about it, since everything is digital now and everything goes
Speaker 18: through the telecom network at some point in the Internet,
Speaker 18: you know, if you had total con if you get
Speaker 18: back door the telecom network and flip the switch and
Speaker 18: shut it down, will you turn off almost everything? I mean,
Speaker 18: look at how devastating the Amazon Web services out it
Speaker 18: to us. So that was only roughly fifteen hours of outage,
Speaker 18: it took down sites all across the Internet, from video
Speaker 18: games to ring doorbells. Imagine if you could go in
Speaker 18: and just shut down the telecom network that makes all
Speaker 18: of this work. But the answer questions specifically here like
Speaker 18: these water plants and other critical infrastructure. The FBI categorizes
Speaker 18: sixteen different types of critical infrastructure. Obviously the power.
Speaker 5: Grid, water.
Speaker 18: You know, you can't live too long without water, guys,
Speaker 18: and you know e electricity makes all of this stuff possible.
Speaker 18: So when you just look at those two things alone,
Speaker 18: not to mention like chemical plants and logistics, it's pretty serious.
Speaker 18: And you know, if you're in let's say two hundred
Speaker 18: critical infrastructure agencies of some sort, and if you're just
Speaker 18: in the business, we call it dwell time. I get
Speaker 18: in and I just lurk. I'm dwelling. I may not
Speaker 18: necessarily do anything. I'm just looking for what can I
Speaker 18: steal or in the case of an enemy nation state actor,
Speaker 18: where could I plant backdoors so I can maintain persistence?
Speaker 18: Or where could I cause a problem that would shut
Speaker 18: this down? I mean, you think about it. There If
Speaker 18: the FBI is saying two hundred utilities compromised, and I
Speaker 18: don't know in this story they're accounting for the teletom
Speaker 18: work as well. But if you could just one day,
Speaker 18: when you decide that today is the day we're going
Speaker 18: to take Taiwan, where Today is the day that we're
Speaker 18: going to do something else in the world, and we
Speaker 18: need cover for it. We need to create chaos. We
Speaker 18: need to basically take the United States out of the
Speaker 18: game because they have too many of their own internal
Speaker 18: problems when you flip the switch. If you, guys, really
Speaker 18: want to be disturbed, look up some stories about recent
Speaker 18: instances where you know, a lot of the solar panels
Speaker 18: that we now have in this country that provide pallette
Speaker 18: came from China, and back doors have been found in
Speaker 18: the backdoors is fancy nerds speak for a hole in
Speaker 18: the software that would allow a remote actor to take
Speaker 18: control or to shut it down. You know, sadly, guys,
Speaker 18: we're at a place where all the underlying technology makes
Speaker 18: the Internet work was developed. When you get back to
Speaker 18: the plain old telephone system of pots, you know, one
Speaker 18: hundred plus years ago, the Internet, PCPIP, all the underlying
Speaker 18: technology late sixties, early seventies, when no thought was given
Speaker 18: to some say the entire world run off this stuff,
Speaker 18: and we've been way too laxed or way too long
Speaker 18: about doing the hard work because it's expensive and it
Speaker 18: creates friction, it causes problems to retrofit security and on propitence.
Speaker 18: But when you see more and more stories like this,
Speaker 18: and you look at even some of the local governments
Speaker 18: here locally that have had some fairly devastating attacks. Thankfully,
Speaker 18: I don't believe any of them have been traced to
Speaker 18: any death yet. But again, imagine if you could just
Speaker 18: turn off the power or even just make it impossible
Speaker 18: to dispat dispatch police and fire, and then you know,
Speaker 18: start some other sort of attack. It would be catastrophic.
Speaker 18: And I hate to be the doomsday guy, but you know,
Speaker 18: that's where we're at. We have got to get serious
Speaker 18: as a society about doing the things we need to
Speaker 18: do to protect our critical infrastructure. Because again, it's not
Speaker 18: just lost money, it's not just lost data, it's not
Speaker 18: just unfortunate downtime. People's lives potentially hang into balance when
Speaker 18: ninety one one services can't get out or you don't
Speaker 18: have water or power. Think of how think of how
Speaker 18: unfortunate Winner would be in Cincinnati with no electricity. Well,
Speaker 18: it makes for a really bad, bad winner.
Speaker 1: And think about what we're talking about here. You know,
Speaker 1: they have the capability of they could have if they
Speaker 1: wanted to shut down that water plant. Uh and they had,
Speaker 1: they've infiltrated like the like the Jason said two hundred
Speaker 1: others or whatever the number was. But this is this
Speaker 1: would be all part of a coordinated attack, guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a strategic genius to figure
Speaker 1: out that, uh, what domino is going to fall, and
Speaker 1: then they're all going to fall and it's just going
Speaker 1: to create mass chaos.
Speaker 18: It's exactly right, Eddie. And there's another angle to this
Speaker 18: that I think people often either overlook or don't always
Speaker 18: sort of understand the backstory on again, the idea that
Speaker 18: if I can infiltrate your system, whether it's because of
Speaker 18: bad passwords, whether it's because of legacy equipment that doesn't
Speaker 18: get updates from the vendor, or for what reason, if
Speaker 18: I'm a bad actor, particularly a nation state actor like
Speaker 18: a China or Russia, if I can get a persistent
Speaker 18: foothold in there, a backdoor again if you will, and
Speaker 18: I can just dwell in there until such time that
Speaker 18: I decided to flip the switch. That's pretty bad. Now
Speaker 18: you mentioned the idea of flipping them all at one time,
Speaker 18: which is even worse. But imagine if you could just
Speaker 18: continue to stay in there, and monitor what people are doing,
Speaker 18: all of the information you could collect about how emergency
Speaker 18: responders would respond, what their plans are, potential interaction because
Speaker 18: you know, thankfully we have great organizations, particularly in the
Speaker 18: state of Ohio, like the Ohio Cyber Reserve with through
Speaker 18: the Ohio National Guard, you know, which interfaces with the
Speaker 18: military to try to provide support any event there is
Speaker 18: some sort of catastrophic cyber event. You've got Infraguard, which
Speaker 18: is a public private partnership with the FBI. You've got Scissors,
Speaker 18: the Cybersecuty Infrastructure Situviator. There's all kinds of people out
Speaker 18: there trying to help wake people up about this, trying
Speaker 18: to help people, like local governments in Ohio descend against this.
Speaker 18: But if you're in there long enough, you would start
Speaker 18: to capture all of the planning and information that's being
Speaker 18: used to figure out how to prevent this very thing
Speaker 18: from happening. So it's not just the flip and the switch,
Speaker 18: it's all the information, theft and all the inside you
Speaker 18: would get into the planning and the defense is to
Speaker 18: try to prevent this very sort of thing from happening.
Speaker 18: So again, and then this sounds crazy to people and
Speaker 18: then I just thought one last quick thing stucks that
Speaker 18: you guys may recall. It's I don't believe the US
Speaker 18: has ever claimed that this happened, But back in like
Speaker 18: the late twenty ten timeframe, Iranian uranium processing facilities were
Speaker 18: basically destroying themselves because someone quote unquote was able to
Speaker 18: slip a virus in there. And basically these machines would
Speaker 18: tell the operators they were operating within normal palaces while
Speaker 18: they were basically destroying themselves. To imagine the mansion, the
Speaker 18: chaos you could treat if why you're in these networks,
Speaker 18: the water plant or whatever, the water plant is telling you,
Speaker 18: its sensors are saying, yep, everything is good. Chemical levels
Speaker 18: are fine, and in reality they're actually poisoning the water.
Speaker 18: But the sensors are telling you all is good because
Speaker 18: the software is picturerupted.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 18: I know this sounds far fetched to people, but that
Speaker 18: actually happened. To look up Stuff's net and how all
Speaker 18: these uranium enrichment devices basically were destroyed while they said
Speaker 18: they were doing what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Dave, We always go into this
Speaker 1: thing wanting knowledge, and we leave all kinds of depressed
Speaker 1: and realize the end is dear.
Speaker 2: Dave had Her. It's always a pleasure, buddy, Thanks so much.
Speaker 18: It's my pleasure. And it's been good knowing you guys.
Speaker 1: See see you on the other side. Son, are good,
Speaker 1: Our good friend Dave had Her. We always have like
Speaker 1: five things we want to talk about with him, but
Speaker 1: he starts talking about one thing like that. But I
Speaker 1: think that's the most important. But yes, man, that's that
Speaker 1: scary stuff, buddy. Sure with that, we take in with
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Speaker 1: on the It's their off date, right, do a little
Speaker 1: class working that type of thing.
Speaker 2: Today's the off day, and then back out of tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Wednesday is a big, big, big prep day in the NFL.
Speaker 2: So I only know a little bit about the Bears.
Speaker 2: How the Bears are so far? What are they like?
Speaker 18: Four?
Speaker 2: Four and three now three something like that. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: they're they're better. They got a new coach this season.
Speaker 2: They're coming off a kind of a tough loss at Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore without Lamar Jackson still beat him thirty
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Speaker 2: left the Bears a little bit frustrated because you know,
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Speaker 2: and no.
Speaker 1: Laa Jackson and your Ravens are turning it around as
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Speaker 24: Uh.
Speaker 2: And the Steelers got absolutely smoked by the Packers the
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Speaker 2: Well let's well we'll talk we'll talk football. With repeat.
Speaker 2: You know what, we haven't talked about that World Series
Speaker 2: game last night? Oh did you?
Speaker 1: I'm just still going on right it is. They're in
Speaker 1: the two hundred and seventeenth in right now, But no,
Speaker 1: I went. I watched it till the end, and I
Speaker 1: was getting tired, and I said, man, I getta, you know,
Speaker 1: I gonna. I don't care that much about either team,
Speaker 1: like like baseball, but I don't care that much. And
Speaker 1: so uh it was bottom they got the third down,
Speaker 1: the bottom of the Knights, and I just said, screw it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed.
Speaker 1: And then I get up this morning and see that
Speaker 1: it went eighteen. That's insane. Man, that's baseball though none
Speaker 1: of this ghost Runner crap and that type of thing.
Speaker 1: Come on, exactly, play it out two games for the
Speaker 1: price of one, YEP, and World Series like you know
Speaker 1: what that I agree with that.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 2: I don't care if that's in the World Series or
Speaker 2: in April. I agree. I'm all for that stuff.
Speaker 5: But I know.
Speaker 2: When you're trying to appeal to new fans like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: not a lot of them want to want to stay
Speaker 2: up until three forty five, or it might have been
Speaker 2: totally down for it.
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Speaker 1: Don't be haunted by the old stage in your carpet
Speaker 1: back with Eddie and Jason and Jason. That's been talked
Speaker 1: about here for the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: And guy is falling. This guy is falling, and where
Speaker 2: is it falling?
Speaker 1: Already the sky was blue the other day and now,
Speaker 1: James Rapine the sky the skies have turned gray again,
Speaker 1: and it's stormy in the great city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Buddy, how you doing?
Speaker 18: I'm doing well?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: James?
Speaker 19: So so?
Speaker 2: James?
Speaker 1: What what kind of vibe you you were down there
Speaker 1: in the locker room yesterday? What uh you know, after
Speaker 1: the after the wall fell?
Speaker 2: What what happened? How everybody? How's everybody acting?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 19: I think they know that the significance of that game,
Speaker 19: but they NFL players generally aren't like like us from
Speaker 19: a oh well.
Speaker 16: We lost to the Jets, so what does that mean
Speaker 16: for our season? I think they're that they.
Speaker 19: Were trying to focus and get ready for a game
Speaker 19: against the Bears, right and try to move the page.
Speaker 16: And I think it's tough.
Speaker 19: It's tough for me and you, but they have no choice,
Speaker 19: and so I think that was part of where they
Speaker 19: were at. But obviously they knew they should have won
Speaker 19: on Sunday. I think everyone understands that the ship James.
Speaker 2: I'm a loyal, loyal watcher of all your post game
Speaker 2: breakdowns on the CBT since I bangs talk and I
Speaker 2: love it and I always get it. I love the
Speaker 2: flag football when you always say the flag football ad,
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty cool stuff. I guess kind of you know,
Speaker 2: you're always breaking it down. You have great, great breakdowns
Speaker 2: of the games and on the bigger picture of all
Speaker 2: of this and where did this? Can you pinpoint where
Speaker 2: this all went wrong? Defensively? And I know that's not
Speaker 2: a this year thing you do was there a was
Speaker 2: there a decision made a few years ago or decisions
Speaker 2: where you're like, up, that was the turn and now
Speaker 2: we're seeing the results of that.
Speaker 16: Oh for sure.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I think I think you're totally right
Speaker 19: that this was this was a problem that became a
Speaker 19: problem the moment you let Jesse Bates balk.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and when Jesse Bates leaves.
Speaker 19: Town when he really hadn't played his best football, like
Speaker 19: his best football has been played in Atlanta. And so
Speaker 19: when your draft a guy like that developed him either
Speaker 19: borderline Pro bowler, and then he becomes even better and
Speaker 19: one of the best safeties in the league, and you
Speaker 19: don't replace him.
Speaker 16: And it's, by the way, those guys are hard to replace.
Speaker 16: They're hard to find.
Speaker 5: And this is right.
Speaker 19: Exactly, And so that's where I went wrong, fellas I mean,
Speaker 19: and it's not just him, but like just just just
Speaker 19: think if the Bengals had just paid Jesse Bates and
Speaker 19: let's say they don't pay your main Pratt or let's
Speaker 19: just say they don't pay your main Pratt or Logan Wilson,
Speaker 19: and they just pay Jesse Bates, they're much better off.
Speaker 2: Today's amazing.
Speaker 16: And so when you make those decisions. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 19: Like they I'm never going to say, oh, well they
Speaker 19: don't have the money, and like they still have the money.
Speaker 19: It's not because they've paid tier Jamar that their defense
Speaker 19: is the way it is.
Speaker 16: But that's not it.
Speaker 19: But are they willing to structure contracts certain ways, be
Speaker 19: aggressive enough and spend on GUIDs that are in their prime.
Speaker 19: That's why I wanted them to pay team. You don't
Speaker 19: let talent like that in their prime walk out the door,
Speaker 19: really regardless of the position, unless you have an embarrassment
Speaker 19: of riches.
Speaker 16: And they've never been in that scenario.
Speaker 19: So it's with Jesse Bates and it's compounded since with
Speaker 19: with draft picks, failed draft picks, letting a guy like
Speaker 19: DJ Reader walk. I mean, there's a lot of layers
Speaker 19: to this. It certainly didn't happen overnight. And uh yeah,
Speaker 19: it's it's been one move after another that's kind of
Speaker 19: cost them over time.
Speaker 1: We're talking to James Repeat from the Lockdown Bengels podcast
Speaker 1: and Allbengals dot Com and James, in your opinion, what
Speaker 1: what happens? Say they lose to the uh to the
Speaker 1: Bears this week and go into the buy a week
Speaker 1: is uh, is there possible there's going to be a
Speaker 1: not necessarily a fire sale, but the moving some high
Speaker 1: profile players.
Speaker 16: Well, I think that that's something that they.
Speaker 19: Don't plan on doing. But you're right, if you know,
Speaker 19: if you lose this week and you get to three
Speaker 19: and six, you have to have that conversation with yourself,
Speaker 19: who are you?
Speaker 6: What are you?
Speaker 16: What are you going to be?
Speaker 19: And and that's uh, that's a tough start to be it.
Speaker 19: And so we'll see what they ultimately decide to do.
Speaker 19: I think I think if you're three and six, you
Speaker 19: certainly consider in listening offers for Trey. I think he's
Speaker 19: listening to offers for for guys like that, you know,
Speaker 19: Cam Taylor, Brett, Logan Wilson. I think they're listening to
Speaker 19: offers for those guys right now anyways. And so that
Speaker 19: that's it. And that's why the lost.
Speaker 16: The other day was as jarring as it.
Speaker 19: Was it was, because if you win the other day,
Speaker 19: well then you feel like, Okay, there's a real shot here.
Speaker 19: You're four and four, two and one with Joe Flacco,
Speaker 19: you have a winnable game against the Bears, trade deadline's
Speaker 19: coming up, you have plenty of picks, Like who knows,
Speaker 19: maybe you at a piece, maybe you trade Logan Wilson
Speaker 19: or one of these guys for a piece that can
Speaker 19: help you, and another team feels like Wilson is going
Speaker 19: to help them more, you know, like that that's totally realistic.
Speaker 16: And now it just feels like.
Speaker 19: They're they're fighting uphill again and they've they've stumbled back
Speaker 19: seven spots just by losing one game. Because of the
Speaker 19: impact of that game on what it could represent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you are on top of all the players
Speaker 2: that are out there available, and you know, when it
Speaker 2: comes to local local media, you're on top of that
Speaker 2: more than anyone about Hey, this this guy is on
Speaker 2: the trade market out there. This would be a good guy,
Speaker 2: a good fit for this organization. And earlier today you
Speaker 2: tweeted about cave is a cave On Thibodeau pass rusher
Speaker 2: for the Giants who is reportedly on the trading block.
Speaker 2: It made me think, like would they would they then
Speaker 2: try to, you know, trade draft picks for a guy
Speaker 2: like that and still think they have a shot this
Speaker 2: year and I know that guy's under contract next year.
Speaker 2: Even get a guy like that to prepare for the rebuild,
Speaker 2: you know, going the rest of this season moving in
Speaker 2: the next season. Could could you see him even going
Speaker 2: that direction?
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's certainly something and they would or
Speaker 19: should consider her. I mean Avon Thibodeau. The reason he
Speaker 19: makes sense is it doesn't matter what you do Sunday,
Speaker 19: it doesn't matter really this season, what you do. He'd
Speaker 19: be under contract next year and could be a building piece,
Speaker 19: be a building block at just twenty four years old.
Speaker 19: And so yeah, I think that's how they should operate
Speaker 19: now is all right, Well, can you get win now
Speaker 19: pieces that are also win later and can be part
Speaker 19: of the twenty twenty six Bengals and beyond, and specifically
Speaker 19: on defense, because they've tried fellas all right, they have
Speaker 19: tried to make this work and tried to get key
Speaker 19: pieces in there, and it just it hasn't worked. And
Speaker 19: that's the problem is try to try to try. Fine,
Speaker 19: we'll go get proven pieces. And if you think back
Speaker 19: to twenty twenty, they did that. They get DJ Reader
Speaker 19: in free agencies and they go out and they get
Speaker 19: the next free agency Mike Hilton and Chudobaylouzie. They got
Speaker 19: Von Bell in twenty twenty. Like a lot of the
Speaker 19: pieces that helped them get to the Super Bowl. They
Speaker 19: gotten free agency, not necessarily the draft, and so whether
Speaker 19: it's free agency, whether it's trades, they need to do
Speaker 19: whatever they can to upgrade this defense in a big,
Speaker 19: big way in the near future.
Speaker 2: Well you're Jane, you're hitting right on it, because that's
Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about it, if they're going
Speaker 2: to try to blow this defense up and then reload
Speaker 2: through the draft, that is a long, long process and
Speaker 2: seems pretty daunting and certainly given their track record, like
Speaker 2: you know, you're looking at really a total rebuild if
Speaker 2: they're going to go to that direction. So the best
Speaker 2: direction for them to again maximize and try to recapture
Speaker 2: the window of Joe Burrow, like you almost, you got
Speaker 2: to go through trades and free agency, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 16: I think that's.
Speaker 19: And I know we talked about like the state of
Speaker 19: the defense and where it was and how it got there.
Speaker 19: It could have been rebuilt this off season, and when
Speaker 19: you go get a new coach, you know you think
Speaker 19: that way. And the problem is is they just added TJ. Slayton,
Speaker 19: and I like TJ. Slayton, but they yeah, yeah, I did,
Speaker 19: Like you you need to if you're if you're reworking
Speaker 19: something or completely renovating something, well it's probably not going
Speaker 19: to just be one piece. And even if you like
Speaker 19: those young guys, you probably need to go out and
Speaker 19: get more than that. And that's the problem is they didn't.
Speaker 19: They didn't do that. It put them in a tough
Speaker 19: spot going into the draft.
Speaker 16: And then the guys they.
Speaker 19: Drafted, which fine, if you like them, you like them,
Speaker 19: but the guys that drafted weren't plug and play and
Speaker 19: they needed plug and play instant impact.
Speaker 18: And so when you you multiply that, oh.
Speaker 19: Well you're not getting a ton of impact in free agency,
Speaker 19: and then you're not getting a ton of impact in
Speaker 19: the draft, and you need those guys to be impactful
Speaker 19: or you get what you've seen to this point, which
Speaker 19: is a defense that's uh, that's young, that's inexperience, that's
Speaker 19: making mistakes, and that can't do the things they need
Speaker 19: to do to be a winning football team.
Speaker 1: And finally, speaking of that, James, let me ask both
Speaker 1: you guys, and we were just talking about the failure
Speaker 1: to develop these younger players. Is that a scouting problem
Speaker 1: or is it a development problem with the coaching staff
Speaker 1: in your opinion.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I think it's a both and hens
Speaker 19: as both, you know, the scouting element. Like, I think
Speaker 19: it's a tough spot for Demetrius Knight, who turned twenty
Speaker 19: five in July, to come in and be expected to
Speaker 19: be this plug and play starter. He wasn't super experienced
Speaker 19: as it was, and so that's that's a tough ask.
Speaker 19: Samar Stewart, I like him as a prospect. There's a
Speaker 19: lot to like, but it's no secret that he wasn't
Speaker 19: a refined pass rusher that has all the pass rush
Speaker 19: moves you need, you know, So it was going to
Speaker 19: take time and so that part of stuff, and then
Speaker 19: their their lack of spending and free agency certainly multiplies
Speaker 19: the issue.
Speaker 1: All right with that, James, we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thanks appreciate James. James Rapine the Lockdown
Speaker 1: Bengals podcast, Allbengals dot Com. And yeah, that's you always.
Speaker 1: That's just been kind of in the back of my mind,
Speaker 1: is it. The people are always talking about their lack
Speaker 1: of a scouting department, But then, okay, sooner or later
Speaker 1: you're going to accidentally hit on some let's face it,
Speaker 1: as a scout these guys are stupid. But is it
Speaker 1: a player development problem? I'm you know, I'm but listen,
Speaker 1: you know, James is there a practice every day. He's
Speaker 1: there on a day to day basis, so you know,
Speaker 1: certainly not won't argue what he says. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I agree, it's it's it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I tend to lean more on the on the front
Speaker 2: end side of that that the lack of a robust
Speaker 2: scouting department. And you know, Eddie, we've been we've been
Speaker 2: talking about this for years. Like I've got a question
Speaker 2: in my inbox column at the Inquirer last week. Someone
Speaker 2: was asking me about it, and it just made me think,
Speaker 2: I remember back in early two thousands, in the nineties
Speaker 2: that was such a big headline. Is like there's you know,
Speaker 2: they're lie and then they they were so bad for
Speaker 2: so many years there they're like, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: hire John Cooper, the fired Ohio State, former Ohio State
Speaker 2: football coach, as a consultant, and that was you know it.
Speaker 2: But it's als So it's I'm not I'm not whatever
Speaker 2: on that now, but I'm just saying it made it
Speaker 2: reminded me of the fact that this has always been
Speaker 2: an issue, that their short staffed player personnel and scouting
Speaker 2: department has always been a question mark and always you know,
Speaker 2: they have the smallest scouting staff. You know, last year
Speaker 2: I did a column on it where when they lost
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, I went and count it up on the website.
Speaker 2: You know, Pittsburgh had twenty seven at that time, had
Speaker 2: twenty seven people in their scouting department, player personnel department,
Speaker 2: football operations, whatever.
Speaker 19: You know.
Speaker 2: Some teams call it something different. The Bengals at the
Speaker 2: time had six, right, yeah, And it's like, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: there's the difference. And it's like if you're and the
Speaker 2: thing is is that the more eyes you have, the
Speaker 2: more more things you can put on the table, the
Speaker 2: more people you can send out. You can send more
Speaker 2: guys out during the college football season to go visit
Speaker 2: the Alabamas and the Marshalls and even little tiny schools
Speaker 2: say that when you have guys scout more, yeah, slippery
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Speaker 26: I guess that's the reasons red buddy to get high
Speaker 26: right exactly?
Speaker 2: Good excuse is any right?
Speaker 26: So you got you got till December the second right,
Speaker 26: you can still get hip products in Ohio till December
Speaker 26: the second.
Speaker 8: I believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we wanted to talk to you about
Speaker 1: because and this seems to be we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: to a guy from ABC News hearing a little bit
Speaker 1: about it, because it seems to be a nationwide problem.
Speaker 1: But that was going on here in Ohio started with
Speaker 1: our governor talking about some of these products that are
Speaker 1: coming out that people are putting in packaging. It looks
Speaker 1: a little bit too much like kids candy. Are you
Speaker 1: seeing this all all over the place.
Speaker 26: That's all. It's all over the country, And you know
Speaker 26: these are bad actors that are doing this right, well,
Speaker 26: first of all, they're endangering our children and adults that
Speaker 26: might think this is a novel candy, not an intoxicating product.
Speaker 5: They're violating copyright.
Speaker 26: Infringements when they call these things nerds and sour patch
Speaker 26: and gushers. So I'm in the belief that the cartels
Speaker 26: are the one that's really pushing this product out there.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you, because I
Speaker 1: had read about it so called they're called it's being
Speaker 1: called bootleg. Now I'll be like, I'll give you bootleg
Speaker 1: a legit product. But do you tell me, so you
Speaker 1: think that the cartels are behind us and kind of
Speaker 1: marketing and on the sly.
Speaker 26: They are on the big scale, and of course anytime
Speaker 26: that happens, it falls down to the smaller players.
Speaker 5: Guys, you can go on eBay and you can.
Speaker 26: Buy packaging that looks just like these packages that are
Speaker 26: empty and put your own products. So you're a street dealer, right,
Speaker 26: and you're losing business to the dispensaries. Well, I can
Speaker 26: go on eBay and buy one hundred of these little
Speaker 26: boxes and I can put whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't know where he got those gummies.
Speaker 26: He got him from another guy, that got him from
Speaker 26: another guy that maybe got him from a cartel.
Speaker 5: So this is a this is a real big issue
Speaker 5: that we have going on.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, you know, a couple of weeks ago, Governor
Speaker 2: Mike DeWine here in Ohio was there was kind of
Speaker 2: a funny picture of him holding up in one hand Nerds,
Speaker 2: a package of Nerds candy and a plastic you know, packaging,
Speaker 2: and then the other hand a package of Nerd e
Speaker 2: And you know, basically it was a you know, essentially
Speaker 2: came down to the change of one letter and So
Speaker 2: what you're saying, j Man, is that we don't really
Speaker 2: know who's making even though I can go into ah
Speaker 2: there's places around Ohio where you can go into a
Speaker 2: you know, a convenience store, not necessarily a you know,
Speaker 2: a name brand type of you know, you can't go
Speaker 2: to Walgreens or CBS, but you can go to that
Speaker 2: you know, gas station on the corner or something like that.
Speaker 2: And get that you're saying that we don't know where
Speaker 2: those are really coming from.
Speaker 26: That's that's my opinion, gentlemen.
Speaker 5: Two things.
Speaker 26: One, the street dealers are selling those, and then unscrupulous retailers,
Speaker 26: well they've existed forever. You know, you're not supposed to
Speaker 26: sell cigarettes one at a time. A lot of those
Speaker 26: stores still do that. They do in Louisiana where I
Speaker 26: go up, they do some places here in Texas. So
Speaker 26: those guys need to get their knees cut out from
Speaker 26: underneath them because they're creating a bad image for the
Speaker 26: ninety nine percent of the other people that are trying
Speaker 26: to abide by the regulations, abide by the rules and
Speaker 26: make sure that they're.
Speaker 5: Giving a safe product.
Speaker 26: But this isn't just an Ohio a Texas. This is
Speaker 26: across the country with these products that may or may
Speaker 26: not be they may be nefarious of what's in that box,
Speaker 26: even if you bought it at a store.
Speaker 1: So j Man, in your opinion, why would they want
Speaker 1: to do something like that for the just the novelty factor?
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you hope to gain.
Speaker 5: The money aspect of it.
Speaker 26: One of the things about hip versus marijuana is marijuana's
Speaker 26: it's regulated more and it's taxed more. So for that
Speaker 26: same buzz you get from that gummy that might have
Speaker 26: come from your legal adult dispensary might be the same
Speaker 26: gummy that you're getting for fifty seventy five percent less
Speaker 26: in cost. And in today's time, you know, everything's going up.
Speaker 26: So a person's looking for a little relaxation of above,
Speaker 26: maybe a little pain management, they're going to try to
Speaker 26: look at what's most cost detectible. The same same thing
Speaker 26: happens in the pharmaceutical world. They've got generic all types
Speaker 26: of drugs that we don't know where they come from,
Speaker 26: and and people are buying and consuming those because when
Speaker 26: they go to their doctor, the regular pharmacy routes, uh,
Speaker 26: it costs a.
Speaker 5: Lot more and we don't have as much money in
Speaker 5: their pocket anymore.
Speaker 18: Not even here in Texas.
Speaker 2: Fact.
Speaker 1: But is this is this the delta eight stuff or
Speaker 1: whatever that that when I call it fake pot, but
Speaker 1: you know that lower quality pot.
Speaker 26: Delta eight, Delta nine, Delta ten, those are all derivatives
Speaker 26: of the th HC cannabinoids.
Speaker 5: Some of those are naturally.
Speaker 26: Occurring and some of those, like Delta eight, it's a
Speaker 26: synthetic or a chemical process. So Jay Man says, sway
Speaker 26: from anything that they've adulterated up with chemicals. Uh, that's uh,
Speaker 26: you know that delta eight is causing a lot of problems.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 26: These dosage amounts too, I'm those nerdy that the governor showed.
Speaker 26: They said there were four hundred and twenty milligrams that
Speaker 26: in that.
Speaker 18: Bag that knocked me and Willie out.
Speaker 5: That's too much.
Speaker 18: You don't need to eat that much.
Speaker 2: Is that is that in one gummy?
Speaker 5: Well, it's in that package.
Speaker 26: Let's say there's ten in there, so that means there's
Speaker 26: forty forty two milligrams of hip drives THC. That because
Speaker 26: of the Farm Bill, they use some fancy mathematics to
Speaker 26: make these products work.
Speaker 5: A lot of people may not realize.
Speaker 26: Right now, the FEDS are really looking at at at
Speaker 26: shutting the hemp thing down. Ram Paul is trying to
Speaker 26: keep them from doing this, but the opposing people, I'm
Speaker 26: getting emails daily about help us day man reach out
Speaker 26: to people because the FEDS are now trying to ban
Speaker 26: intoxicating hemp, And.
Speaker 1: That's kind of that was also part of what the
Speaker 1: Governor DeWine was talking about too, with hemp that derived
Speaker 1: of beverages.
Speaker 26: Yeah, and that's even more confusing guys. Right now up
Speaker 26: there in your state, in a restaurant or a bar,
Speaker 26: it can only be a low dose, but you could
Speaker 26: go to a store and get a higher dose ten
Speaker 26: milligrams versus a five milligram or less. So that makes
Speaker 26: the cost very prohibitive for people trying to be in
Speaker 26: the business because they've got to have two different packaging,
Speaker 26: two different levels of potency in there.
Speaker 5: Just think about that.
Speaker 26: If you're a whiskey drinker and you want Jack Daniels,
Speaker 26: well they've got Jack Daniel's light that you get at
Speaker 26: the bar in the restaurant, but the regular Jack Daniels is.
Speaker 5: At the liquor store.
Speaker 26: It's so confusing up an Ohio. Same thing's happening here
Speaker 26: in Texas and across the country, and.
Speaker 2: Just for the novice person who doesn't necessarily understake. Is
Speaker 2: so you hear of THHC, you hear about hemp. So
Speaker 2: what's the difference between like, you know, you go to
Speaker 2: your local dispensary and you get some gummies versus I
Speaker 2: go to the bootleg you know, gas station down the
Speaker 2: street and get some nerdies. What is there any really
Speaker 2: difference there.
Speaker 5: Or like what Here's the way I like to explain it.
Speaker 26: This is all this is coming from the cannabis sativa
Speaker 26: l plant, both marijuana and hemp. That's the fancy Latin
Speaker 26: word of the genius of the plant.
Speaker 5: Marijuana I like.
Speaker 26: To describe as a big beef steak tomato.
Speaker 5: Shemp is a little tiny cherry tomato. Both of them tomatoes.
Speaker 5: Both of them got a taste.
Speaker 26: So you got to give a whole lot more of
Speaker 26: those hemp tomatoes to equal the same amount as that
Speaker 26: marijuana tomato. Because of the way the THC grows within
Speaker 26: the plant, so they found a way to extract those
Speaker 26: minute amount the little cherry tomatoes out and come underneath
Speaker 26: that point three where it's federally legal under the twenty
Speaker 26: eighteen Farm Bill, and so that's what really started all
Speaker 26: this thing off. And then they started synthesizing it, and
Speaker 26: then they started taking the cannabinoids and making.
Speaker 5: THC A and thc R and THDV.
Speaker 18: That makes you lose what who thought.
Speaker 5: You could do marijuana and lose weight?
Speaker 26: Well that's thcv object to see the result of anybody
Speaker 26: getting skinny from using any of that. But it's come
Speaker 26: a long way from the seventies when I started with this,
Speaker 26: and it was Mexican.
Speaker 5: Dirt weed and that was about it.
Speaker 26: And now you've got thousands of choices of what to
Speaker 26: do and a lot of disinformation out there, so people
Speaker 26: have got to be very cautious in doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerry Joiners our guest and Jay Man, how are
Speaker 1: things going otherwise? How's the media empire gone? How's weed
Speaker 1: and Whiskey TV?
Speaker 5: Gone? Man? It's going great.
Speaker 26: We relocated our studios over here to the historic Longhorn Ballroom,
Speaker 26: a seventy five year old music venue here in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 5: And we got the Old Bridge Boys here tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: Oh cool, excuse me, Friday night. We got them here
Speaker 5: Friday night. So we move door offices that right in
Speaker 5: the middle of the music scene.
Speaker 26: So are weed if whiskey is evolving to a lot
Speaker 26: more music.
Speaker 2: Now, No, you partake in weed and whiskey at the
Speaker 2: same time, or is that a no?
Speaker 26: No? Well I will, but I just dabble with that whiskey.
Speaker 26: You know, my wife, she give me the stink app
Speaker 26: I have to more than two drinks. He's like, uh huh,
Speaker 26: but you know she lets me do a little bit
Speaker 26: more THC.
Speaker 5: I guess because I'm friendlier that way.
Speaker 2: I would think so, I would think. So whiskey will
Speaker 2: do some damage. Man, Yeah, your your wife sounds like mine.
Speaker 2: Jay Man.
Speaker 1: She uh I like you said, I got to start
Speaker 1: on that second whiskey and she's just shaking her head.
Speaker 26: You know, all these products, you gotta be sensible, use
Speaker 26: using in moderation.
Speaker 5: Make sure you know what your limits, and don't endanger
Speaker 5: other people. Don't smoke a joint and then drive the car.
Speaker 5: Don't smoke at why you're driving the car.
Speaker 26: Don't drink while you're doing this stuff. It's it's you know,
Speaker 26: more and more people than are and Texas are on
Speaker 26: the roads. You got all these California people move here.
Speaker 26: Now I'm pretty sure they're getting high when they're driving
Speaker 26: down the road. So I'd just like to stay home
Speaker 26: and talk with my friends on the radio.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, J Man, that that that's
Speaker 2: smoking and driving things a big to you. You drive
Speaker 2: down the highway, I know you've done it or not.
Speaker 2: You've done it in the car, but you'll be driving
Speaker 2: down the highway and you'll smell it. I was driving.
Speaker 2: I got behind somebody the other day on a city
Speaker 2: street and I'm like, I smell it. And the next
Speaker 2: thing and I'm literally smoke just billowing out of the
Speaker 2: driver's side window. I'm like, well, you're not hiding it
Speaker 2: at all, you know, that's right.
Speaker 26: They never knew anybody could hold that much smoke in
Speaker 26: their lungs, right.
Speaker 2: We talked about it on the show here too, J Man.
Speaker 2: As far as.
Speaker 1: The ones that get me or when you're driving down
Speaker 1: the interstate and you can smell.
Speaker 26: Right, it certainly has a distinct odor, doesn't it mean?
Speaker 26: And as somebody who used it for half a century
Speaker 26: I've been using, it ends me often when I come
Speaker 26: around the corner and I'm not expecting to get a
Speaker 26: big old whiff of of of marijuana smoke. It's it's
Speaker 26: it's beginning to get annoying in a lot of cities.
Speaker 5: It's really becoming a problem.
Speaker 2: You know what. I know non smokers who are saying
Speaker 2: that big time that I feel the same. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and I want to see like you do you do you?
Speaker 2: And you know I don't. I don't do it, but
Speaker 2: I have no no qualms about you doing it. But
Speaker 2: it does gets it's a it's kind of annoying, and
Speaker 2: it's it's it's become prevalent enough to where it's annoying.
Speaker 26: And with the vaping, now, you know, our young people
Speaker 26: really need to be cautious about this this vaping.
Speaker 18: Uh.
Speaker 26: They've outlawed vaping here in Texas for nicotine and in
Speaker 26: which let's go along with the THHC products.
Speaker 23: Uh.
Speaker 26: But uh, there's so many studies showing us now that
Speaker 26: the vaping of of marijuana or nicotine can really have
Speaker 26: some adverse health effects.
Speaker 5: Uh as the smoking. I still smoke, I don't smoke
Speaker 5: nearly as much as I used.
Speaker 26: To because I can get a drink or I can
Speaker 26: get a gummy and it's a little bit better for
Speaker 26: my body.
Speaker 1: Sure, all right with that, J man, we will let
Speaker 1: you go. People want to find out more? Where can
Speaker 1: they go?
Speaker 18: I Amjman dot com.
Speaker 2: Thank you buddy, there it is.
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, guys, any time.
Speaker 1: By our good buddy Jerry, the Jman Joiner. What a
Speaker 1: guy I'm talking about taking. I mean he was in
Speaker 1: the advertising business or something back in the day and
Speaker 1: he's turned it into that. That's pretty cool. I could
Speaker 1: see that.
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Speaker 1: All right, back with Eddie and Jason in for Rocky
Speaker 1: again today. And we were just talking about this Jace
Speaker 1: our with our good friend the j Man. And I
Speaker 1: know Alex Stone from ABC is going to find it
Speaker 1: hard to believe that the Eddie and Rocky Show has
Speaker 1: a marijuana expert, but.
Speaker 18: We do.
Speaker 1: And uh, And we talked about this very thing because
Speaker 1: the governor of Ohio has been battling this very thing
Speaker 1: we're about to talk to you about.
Speaker 2: And this is nationwide apparently, this problem.
Speaker 28: We were it is. Yeah, it's everywhere right now. And
Speaker 28: you know, growing up in our time, wasn't like check
Speaker 28: your candy because some evil neighbor is going to put
Speaker 28: a needle or a razor blade in there? And did
Speaker 28: that ever actually go on?
Speaker 13: Though?
Speaker 28: Was there ever a needle or a regul lator? Was
Speaker 28: that mom and dad just being like, well, yeah, I'm
Speaker 28: gonna keep this, I'm gonna keep that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, That's what I can never figure that out,
Speaker 1: because well, when when you'd get an apple at somebody's house,
Speaker 1: it was like really come across with the snickers.
Speaker 28: Yeah, and they give you a toothbrush and you're like
Speaker 28: no way, I don't I don't want this, but but yeah,
Speaker 28: you guys have been talking about it. This is a
Speaker 28: trend that police nationwide are saying, hey, you know, it
Speaker 28: could be a mistake that somebody doesn't realize that this
Speaker 28: stuff gets mixed up in what is going into the
Speaker 28: bag that's going out to the trigger traders who are
Speaker 28: coming by. But these knockoff candies and chips that they
Speaker 28: can be sold at convenience stores and gas stations and
Speaker 28: elsewhere that they look very real. They look like Dorito's,
Speaker 28: they look like sour Patch kids, they look like Skittles,
Speaker 28: they've got the logo on them, but they've they've got
Speaker 28: a ton of THC or psychedelic mushrooms in them. And
Speaker 28: police are saying that it's not going to be good
Speaker 28: if a kid gets their hands on them. In Warren, Michigan,
Speaker 28: they're saying this.
Speaker 23: We thought to her, so low, if a group of
Speaker 23: trained investigators looked at this and didn't pay any attention,
Speaker 23: what should have a chigging to do on Halloween? And
Speaker 23: we just thought we wanted to get this message out
Speaker 23: there to parents and children to be vigilant this Halloween season.
Speaker 28: And guys, they did a bus recently they found a
Speaker 28: ton of this stuff and they said it looked all
Speaker 28: very very real. The maker of trolley and nerds that
Speaker 28: they're saying that they're deeply worried about this candy packaging
Speaker 28: imagery that looks a lot like theirs, and that the
Speaker 28: items are easy to find, and yeah, you go into
Speaker 28: a convenience store and many of them do have a
Speaker 28: little logo on them for THC, but kid may not
Speaker 28: notice that, and police say, yeah, look for something that's
Speaker 28: off or slightly the wrong collar, or it just could
Speaker 28: be the smell of it, and there may be a
Speaker 28: warning on it that says you know how much THC
Speaker 28: is in it, And that's going to be obviously the
Speaker 28: giveaway if there is a warning on it, but that
Speaker 28: the cops saying.
Speaker 23: Look for unusual symbols on usual orders, anything that may
Speaker 23: indicate this isn't and.
Speaker 28: It does look really real. Those who've been shown that
Speaker 28: these packages, they say it takes them a second if
Speaker 28: they can tell the difference at all. I don't know
Speaker 28: if they're trying to advertise a younger generation or the cars.
Speaker 28: In Arkansas, they're a tobacco control board. They're sharing similar
Speaker 28: warnings right now saying that these are found all over Arkansas.
Speaker 28: So yeah, it's something that is across the country that
Speaker 28: the police departments are saying they're worried about. But it
Speaker 28: does have a lot of THC or psychedelics in there
Speaker 28: and could be really really dangerous.
Speaker 2: Well, Alex, Yeah, no. And when you say across the country,
Speaker 2: that's right here in Ohio. Our Governor Mike Dwine came
Speaker 2: out just a few weeks ago where he's trying to
Speaker 2: ban all these products because of the packaging. And I'm
Speaker 2: looking at a story about this where he held up
Speaker 2: a package of Nerds candy and then a package of
Speaker 2: what's called Nerdy Bears, which for the THHC candy and
Speaker 2: other than that, why and nerdy versus Nerds, you can't
Speaker 2: really tell the difference, And yeah, I mean you've seen
Speaker 2: all this and you're reporting too, right, I mean you can't.
Speaker 2: But aren't aren't they supposed to be behind the counter?
Speaker 2: These THC candies are not?
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean depending on where it is. But the
Speaker 28: fact that that has a why in the name, that's
Speaker 28: more than some of these have. I mean some of
Speaker 28: them look identical or using the same name. That Yeah,
Speaker 28: it may say nerds on it and then with a
Speaker 28: little symbol that says, you know, seven hundred what milligrams
Speaker 28: or whatever of THHC And otherwise you wouldn't know that.
Speaker 28: It's pretty incredible that there hasn't been a real effort
Speaker 28: to crack down on the right and you know some
Speaker 28: states have been looking at it, but or the candy
Speaker 28: companies to go after it. That these are not just
Speaker 28: black market things, that they are sold in real stores
Speaker 28: and then people can walk in and buy them.
Speaker 1: And we were talking earlier with our with our marijuana
Speaker 1: guy about this very thing, and it seems was one
Speaker 1: of the things that we that I had read was
Speaker 1: that these were bootleg products. But right, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not right. These are legit manufacturers.
Speaker 28: One that I love that you do have a marijuana guy,
Speaker 28: but stubborn Michigan that that was a boot leg and
Speaker 28: then police found that. But a lot of it was
Speaker 28: gonna be destined for you know, I think of the
Speaker 28: corner gas station where there may be some things in
Speaker 28: there that are not on the on the up and up.
Speaker 28: This isn't going to be at Walgreens or at CBS,
Speaker 28: are at Kroger that this is going to be at
Speaker 28: a type of gas station where maybe you're just running
Speaker 28: into the Minnesota or you're running into to grab a
Speaker 28: quick snack and they've got this stuff somewhere in there.
Speaker 28: But the bigger concern, at least for police right now,
Speaker 28: is it that it will be black market or will
Speaker 28: be in a home and somehow get mixed in with
Speaker 28: the candy that goes out and then a kid will
Speaker 28: accidentally eat it, and not necessarily that it's someone in
Speaker 28: a nefarious way trying to overdose a kid, but but
Speaker 28: it'll get in their bag and then and then they
Speaker 28: won't know.
Speaker 1: All right with that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thanks Alex. And uh yeah, well you
Speaker 1: were you were talking about how much candy you guys
Speaker 1: give out at tru house. How many would just say
Speaker 1: numbers of wise with the kids.
Speaker 2: A man, that's hard to that's hard to put a
Speaker 2: read on. I mean what I think we buy, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, in the past, we've been buying like four
Speaker 2: of the big bags of the assorted can but I
Speaker 2: I've upped, I've uped at the six this year because
Speaker 2: the last few years we've run out of candy and
Speaker 2: there's nothing as I cannot stand running out of stuff.
Speaker 2: This happened at Thanksgiving once and we had like our bigger,
Speaker 2: broader family, like the aunts and uncles and cousins and
Speaker 2: my parents, and I got so ticked. I'm like, just
Speaker 2: send everyone home with leftovers, you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: buy to but buy but buy too much food, you know,
Speaker 2: buy too much candies. You can always give it away
Speaker 2: later or whatever. I can just peace on it for
Speaker 2: the next couple of months. What did you what did
Speaker 2: you run out of a Thanksgiving? Pretty much everything? I
Speaker 2: don't know. This is like ten years ago. I was
Speaker 2: so ticked because like we were always especially in my
Speaker 2: grandma like Williams, like massive, big farmhouse cook did it up.
Speaker 2: And then we decided to host it at our house
Speaker 2: and like we I'm like, what didn't did everyone not
Speaker 2: bring a dish here?
Speaker 5: Like what happened?
Speaker 19: Man?
Speaker 2: I remember like being really ticked at my mom. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't like because I wanted more food. It was
Speaker 2: like you know, everybody you know, like you want to
Speaker 2: have enough food for everyone? Sure, yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 26: It was weird.
Speaker 2: That's Thanksgiving. You want to have too much food for everyone, right,
Speaker 2: And we've always had too much before that, and we've
Speaker 2: always had too much sense, and you know what, that's okay?
Speaker 26: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I when we would go home to my mom's house,
Speaker 1: dead would go she either had to work on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: or she would go to her parents, and I would
Speaker 1: go to my mom's in Dayton, and so I would
Speaker 1: go up there, and I would go and drove my
Speaker 1: mom nuts because I would go around and fiddle with
Speaker 1: her settings on the stove, because let's say she's making
Speaker 1: green beans, Dude, she would boil them to mush mush.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and their canned green beans does sound.
Speaker 2: Like it's already pretty soft. Correct, they've been soaking in
Speaker 2: that salt water and correct.
Speaker 1: And she fries a bunch of bacon, throws that in there,
Speaker 1: and then just boils it until it's just bean soup.
Speaker 1: And I would walk by and just turn the heat down.
Speaker 1: And then later on she would come back over, and
Speaker 1: I'd see her far whether she goes what happened with this?
Speaker 1: And I see her turn it back up, and then
Speaker 1: I'd follow right behind her turn back. She called me
Speaker 1: one time she got all kinds of honked off, but
Speaker 1: she got a case of the go big time. But
Speaker 1: but that's you know, well, you know my mom again,
Speaker 1: like your family, they grow up in and she grew
Speaker 1: up in down the hills of West Virginia. And that's
Speaker 1: when you did worry about under cooking food because yeah,
Speaker 1: and so she would boil the crap out of canned food.
Speaker 1: She would bake that turkey until it was I mean
Speaker 1: it didn't burn, but I sucked all the juice out
Speaker 1: of your mouth.
Speaker 2: It was so dry.
Speaker 5: What was what was?
Speaker 2: What was your your favorite meal that your mom made?
Speaker 2: And then that'd be thanks to you, I mean just overall.
Speaker 1: She she was a good cook. It was, like I said,
Speaker 1: southern food.
Speaker 5: What did you like that?
Speaker 1: She made fried pork chomps read to pork chops, fried
Speaker 1: and lard. She she made fried chicken that would That.
Speaker 2: Was my grandma too, was who was grew up in
Speaker 2: Cable County, West Virginia. She could fry some chicken and
Speaker 2: it was all and lard. And it was for many
Speaker 2: many years we always did Sunday. We always called it dinner,
Speaker 2: but it was lunchtime at her house. And my grandpa
Speaker 2: before he passed, you know, we always my dad was
Speaker 2: on the six kids. And there is when he's still
Speaker 2: living so well.
Speaker 1: I had one other thing that she made, and hands
Speaker 1: down the best gravy and biscuits I've ever had in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: My grandma's was it?
Speaker 18: Was it? What it was?
Speaker 19: That?
Speaker 18: Was it?
Speaker 2: White gravy, white gravy? Yeah, bacon, sausage gravy. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: this was she made it. Oh, bacon gravy, bacon. My
Speaker 2: grandma was sausage grabd I've never had the bacon. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds incredible. It was rich.
Speaker 5: Oh oh, I bet.
Speaker 2: Man makes my mouth water. The first guy bravy.
Speaker 1: The first time I went to bob Evans and had
Speaker 1: sausage gravy, I was like, what is it?
Speaker 18: What is this? Right?
Speaker 2: It tastes nothing like moms. It's pretty good. It's not
Speaker 2: as good as my mom's ravy had to be incredible.
Speaker 5: It was great.
Speaker 1: Man. Oh, there was a reason why I was a
Speaker 1: fat little kid.
Speaker 2: I was a chunker too. I was about as round
Speaker 2: as it was. Come back to being that, but like
Speaker 2: then I hit this grosper between eighth and ninth. I
Speaker 2: was telling my kid this the other day.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was so.
Speaker 2: Skinny in high school. Yeah, that was me exactly. One
Speaker 2: of those things where like I could eat anything and
Speaker 2: everything and nothing. I didn't put on any weight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think between my it was those days. It was
Speaker 2: between my freshmen.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it was freshman and sophomore year that I
Speaker 1: grew like five inches and lost like thirty pounds or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh I was like five six and weighed like
Speaker 1: ninety five pounds. Yeah, my mom thought there was something
Speaker 1: wrong with me. Uh, just hit your gros spurt. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, little Mike. I told my kids that story
Speaker 1: when they when they were younger. And you've seen pictures
Speaker 1: of my kids. Yeah, my kids are both six two now,
Speaker 1: and when they were say in fifth sixth grade, and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, they're going dad, or we are going
Speaker 1: to be as tall as you. I was like, you're
Speaker 1: almost as tall as I am right now, you're eleven.
Speaker 1: Why I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Speaker 2: I assume de side of the family is where the
Speaker 2: heights come from.
Speaker 1: Not not that tall, but I'm more or less, you know,
Speaker 1: five eleven six foot, but uh, nothing.
Speaker 2: Like these guys. Like I said, those boys can eat,
Speaker 2: they can put it because they look like guys. They
Speaker 2: can eat anything and don't put anything on.
Speaker 1: My oldest son is well, both of them are skinny
Speaker 1: as real. Yeah, and the young one doesn't eat nearly
Speaker 1: as much as the old one. But the old guy, uh,
Speaker 1: that's the old guy, twenty six six.
Speaker 2: He can. He's just one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And he can eat a sandwich and be rady to
Speaker 1: eat a field a full dinner a half hour later,
Speaker 1: and then make a dint.
Speaker 2: In another hour. From there, you can go to Taco
Speaker 2: Bell and Wolf. The way home, you'll stop at Taco
Speaker 2: Bell and Teme. You ah, those are the days.
Speaker 18: Yes.
Speaker 2: With that, we take in with traffic and weather, what
Speaker 2: is going on