1 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Well the weekends upon is welcome aboard at Home with 2 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Gary Salvin. This stars brought to you by gutter Brush. 3 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: I know it's cold out, at least in my area 4 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: it's cold out. But get those gutters clean now before 5 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: the ice comes. Because claude gutters they cause damage, rot bugs, 6 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: and you gotta get that fixed now. Never deal with 7 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: that again. You can get gutter brush. It stops leaves 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: and debris. You can installed minutes, just slides in and 9 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: right now you can say thirty five. It's their Black 10 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Friday sale. Simply go to gutterbrush dot com. 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It's like 21 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: a two car garage that was built back probably in 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: the late fifties and they had insulated it on the 23 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: side and you know, on the top there. I but 24 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: I get a ton of mice in that. So I 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: took the insulation out of the top, out of the rafters. 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: But at the top where they stopped the board, there's 27 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: that gap right there, and I think they're still going 28 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: down in there. And is there anything I can seal 29 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: that off with? Like would the phoam insulation work or 30 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: is there a better way to do it? 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: Well, I would say so. First, I guess I got 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: to tell you why is that gap? Is that just 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: the way it's built? Does it serve a purpose? I 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: don't want you to fill something up if it's like 35 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: a soft inventing or something along newse lines. 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's just this is like a homemade you know, 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: the building's homemade. It wasn't like a pre pab thing 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: or anything. They just kind of build it and it 39 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: looked like they used whatever materials they had handy. I mean, 40 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: it's been there for all those years, but I don't 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: think it doesn't go to any soft and it's got 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: kind of a flat roof on it with a rubber 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: roof on it. Okay, so there isn't there isn't there 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: isn't even there isn't any any real venting in that building. 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we didn't screw something up. 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: The foam insulation would do it. In fact, is this 47 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: something you're looking at doing yourself. Is it a big area, 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: a small area, or. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: What it's like the size of a car garage. But 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: I was going to try to do it myself if 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: I could, but I didn't know if the mice would 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: chew through that phone. 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: I can. They can, but they're the reason I asked 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: that question. I don't know if commercially they have a 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: mouseproof foam. They do have a mouseproof foam insulation that 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: comes in a can, So I was asking about the 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: size of an area you're trying to fill and the mice. 58 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Actually it deters mice to begin with, so they're not 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: going to eat through that foam. So if you're gonna 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: have it done, you know, if it's going to take 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: a volume of this, I would call some foam insulators 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and see if they have something where it'd be mouseproof. 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I just know it's available in a can product. 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Okay. And then one more question, a different theme here. 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: I've got a bathroom down there in the basement, and 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: it's got a brown shower out to brown toilet, brown sink, 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: and was thinking about remodeling it. By my plumber said, 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: do not get rid of that toilet, because he said 69 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: the older ones have more gallons than new ones than 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: they play they do. So I get I guess the 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: only option is I either get all new or work 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: my decor around the brown stuff. You know, But I mean, 73 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with them. 74 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: They're just old. Yeah, no, I understand. So a little 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: comment here is you can have you know, I'm not 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: talking about the toilet, but I am talking about the 77 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: tub and maybe the sink. You can have those professionally refinished. 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't try it myself. I have yet to see 79 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: one that looks really good. That was a do it 80 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: your selfer's project. But they do have products out there, 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: just don't be seduced by it. There's a company called 82 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Miracle Method. I talked about this at the very beginning 83 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: of today's show. I've used them before on tubs. They 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: do a great job. Not cheap, but it's a heck 85 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: of a lot cheaper than tearing it out and putting 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: in a new tub, right right. I always tell you 87 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: that it's a substantial product because they make a living 88 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases of doing college dorm rooms, 89 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: in showers and in hotels. So it's a very durable product. 90 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: And you know, you get all kinds of selections of colors, 91 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: and you can ask about the toilet. I've just never 92 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: heard that they do a toilet, but you never know. 93 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I appreciate it. 94 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: Well, you have a great. 95 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Day, all right, very good. Thanks for the call. Appreciate Jim, 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: take care all right, and Rachel, welcome. 97 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: Hi. 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: How are you doing fine? Thank you good. 99 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: I have also a question about insulation. We're working on 100 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: insulating a basement and we have two inch rigid foam 101 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: on the exterior, okay, and we're wondering it's like a 102 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: garden view and then on the sides and then it 103 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: goes to a walkout. So on the garden view part, 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: you know, the top is going to be the wood studs, 105 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: and then we have cement and we don't We're really 106 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: trying to build to not create any sort of mold issues. 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to use spray foam just with the 108 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: off gassing and everything, and so we're wondering if we 109 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: put the rigid foam on the inside as well. Are 110 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: we going to trap all of the moisture in between 111 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: those two foam and get an issue, or do you 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: do something different when they've already A good. 113 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Question because installation and a basement is a little bit 114 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: of a challenge because there is there's a lot of 115 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: water vapor that goes through that concrete wall. I mean 116 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: it's like eight gallons a day or something, so you 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: got to be careful. Usually what in this this whole 118 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: philosophy or way of doing it is changed over probably 119 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: the last twenty five thirty years. It used to be 120 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: we put in there with a vapor barrier. I remember 121 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: building basements with my dad of you know, studding out 122 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: a wall and packing it with fiberglass insulation and covering 123 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: it with plastic, and that's the way that was standard 124 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: building practices. And then the mold came along and as 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: that water was coming in, it was getting trapped behind 126 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: that plastic which was a water vapor, and it would 127 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: get moldy in some cases, not all cases, but in 128 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: some cases. And in fact, it was even cod to 129 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: have a vapor barrier there, that's how crazy it was. 130 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Now kind of the common building practices is if it's 131 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: below grade, you would definitely not want to have a 132 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: closed cell phone, but you can have an open cell phone. 133 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: You can have insulation, but you don't want a vapor barrier. 134 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: So building practice now, as they're saying, just welcome the 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: moisture in. It's welcomed in right now, and then if 136 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: it gets too humid or there's too much moisture, control 137 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: it with air exchanging units or dehumidifiers, but don't trap 138 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: it behind the insulation. So okay, that's what I would 139 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: do is I would just use open, open cell foam 140 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: panels and you'll be fine. 141 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: So you would still glue the panel to the cement 142 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: and then make your stud wall on top of that 143 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: and then use your batting inside of their. 144 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, well you could you could. You 145 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: can do it that way, or you could just build 146 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: your stud wall and you could just use a two 147 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: inch open cell foam panel in between the studs if 148 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: you wanted to. 149 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: So you won't have an issue with those studs getting 150 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: moldy since they're touching the concrete. 151 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: You could move that out also, so you could put 152 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the you know, there's so many ways of doing it. 153 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: You could also put the foam on the walls and 154 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: just bring the stud out and not put insulation or 155 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think you said you'd put the phone 156 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: panel out in build the wall, which is fine, and 157 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: then put insulation in there. It's fine as long as 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: you don't incorporate a vapor barrier in there, Okay, okay, So, 159 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: and then you can put multiple layers of insulation on 160 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: top of each other unless you start mixing open cell 161 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: and closed cell, or with a vapor barrier, not a 162 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: vapor bearer, that you can get in trouble that way. 163 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: You can get in trouble using a close cell phone 164 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: or a vapor barrier just even on the outside of 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the studs would cause you problem. They'll run you a 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: possibility of trapping moisture behind that wall. That's what we're 167 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: trying not to do. 168 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, would you not like when you're putting that 169 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: open cell phone on the concrete, would you not like 170 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: work to seal it all up with like the spray 171 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: foam and everything. Do you just kind of let you 172 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: just to the point of that, letting that condensation come 173 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: or the vapor come through trying to seal it. 174 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: That's correct, because especially when you talk about if you 175 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: have a foundation that has a block wall. You can 176 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: trap moisture in that block, which a lot of people 177 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: don't think about because there's no way really drying it out. 178 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 5: It's underground, right, And am I correct in thinking that 179 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 5: the two inch rigid foam on the exterior is already 180 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 5: the vapor barrier, so the only wait for the vapor 181 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: to escape is coming inside. 182 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: Correct? 183 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that the foam that's on there, 184 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: hopefully is just open cell. I don't know, okay, okay, 185 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what they've installed. I don't even know 186 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: how you can tell the difference. And I know that's 187 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: going to be your next question unless it's it's a. 188 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: New build, so we could ask the builders. 189 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fine, yeah, yeah. 190 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: One more quick question then is so then we were 191 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: looking at a product called membrane by certainty, so it's 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: a vapor retarder instead of vapor barrier. Do you suggest 193 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: using that then on the rest of the house, like 194 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: where we've put fiberglass seem if we have the studs, 195 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: we have the fiberglass in between it, And then we 196 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: were looking at putting that vapor retarder on the walls 197 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: and the ceiling. Would that be a good solution. 198 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as long as you're above grade, you'll 199 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: be fine doing that. And it's it's even being looked at. 200 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole installation field's changing so much. I'm 201 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: not trying to be evasive. Yeah, we're now even looking 202 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: at homes that are doing what they call whole house encapsulation. 203 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, we just spent the last fifty years talking 204 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: about how important it was to ven addics, and now 205 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: we're using and more ceiling addicts up now. Not in 206 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: every place in the country, not so much in a while, 207 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: but certainly in the southeast, southwest. It's kind of growing north. 208 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: But we're still using vapor bearriers as long as it's 209 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: above grade. It's almost reverse of what you would think. 210 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: You'd think, geez, you'd put a vapor barrier if it's 211 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: below grade. Is all that wet soil and everything. But no, 212 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: we don't want to trap it behind those walls upstairs. 213 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: We usually use in the attics outside walls vapor bearers being. 214 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: Used, so you still use a vapor barrier, like use 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 5: a vapor retarder that lets the water come through. 216 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: No vapor retarder would be a stop. It would be 217 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: a stop. 218 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So like the new kind of the new smart 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: vapor retarders are not going to let the they're. 220 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Not gonna let the moisture come through. 221 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: That's correct, Okay, all right, good got good. 222 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: Questions, good questions though, even on foam installation, which is 223 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, really it stops drafts, it does a really 224 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: better job than any other insulation. And even their rule 225 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: of thumb is you know, above grade. We want to 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: use you know one the close cell phone and where 227 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: you where you're down below. Let's just let that come 228 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: in because it's an excessive amount of water and then 229 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: we'll work with it there. So okay, well, good luck 230 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: on your bill, Thank you so much. All right, take care, 231 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: thank you. All right, we're gonna take a little break 232 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: and at the bottom of the are we're going to 233 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: talk with the TVA talking about saving money and we'll 234 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: talk about insulation. I'm sure. 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I know when we were talking about the 279 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: small smart vapor membranes and I was talking about vapor 280 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: barriers and everything, and I was jogging Danny when I 281 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: said near the end, I think I was starting to 282 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: get confused, but only just because it's a little bit different. 283 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: But the information I talked about is correct, so I'm 284 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: not talking about it now. That changed my mind on that. 285 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: But one of the things we're always trying to do 286 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: is we're you know, I've said it many many times 287 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: in this show, the number one enemy of your home 288 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: is moisture. And but we have you know, when we 289 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: look at when it's below grade, there's an excess amount 290 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: of moisture that's coming through that wall, whether it's a 291 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: block concrete foundation or a poor concrete foundation. In some cases, 292 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: we're always talking about the amount of water it's laying 293 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: against your foundation. And when we were at at the time, 294 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: we and for the most part, the vapor barrier is 295 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: always on insulation, facing the warm area of the home, 296 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: stopping moisture. That's the rule of thumb unless it's below grade. 297 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: But for years it was vapor barrier everywhere, and when 298 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: we started really getting into finishing basements and theaters and 299 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: all that. We were putting walls up, and we were 300 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: packing it with insulation which had a vapor barrier on 301 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: it right up against the concrete wall, and there was 302 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of water vapor that was coming in and 303 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: it was you know, being absorbed by the wood. It 304 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: was being absorbed by or is laying with the wetness 305 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: was getting in the insulation. It's organic material. There's mold spores, 306 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: and we were having mold behind those walls because of 307 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: the amount of water that was invading. Now that's different 308 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: when it's above grade, so we usually use for the 309 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: most part, we use a vapor barrier on attic floors. 310 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: We use it on exterior walls because there's you know, 311 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: there's obviously some moisture coming in, but we're blocking that 312 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: and there's not enough that where it's going to get 313 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: mold behind that wall. But when we get below grade, 314 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: we're not blocking that. We're allowing that moisture to come in, 315 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: and we're trying to control that moisture with their exchange 316 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: units and dehumidifiers because we don't want to trap that 317 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: water behind those walls. So I hope that makes sense 318 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: to you. I know as we were talking, I was 319 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: even kind of stumbling and getting a little bit confused. 320 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: But in essence, that's your rules of thumb. That's the 321 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: rule of thumb. So you know when it's blow grade 322 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: no vapor barrier, above grade vapor barrier, vapor barrier faces 323 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: the warm area of the home. 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We've all heard about it. 375 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: We heard about it in great school and everything else. 376 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Valley Authority. What is it? 377 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a lot of folks didn't grow up 378 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: around here, So it's always a good reminders. The Tennessee 379 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: Valley Authority. It provides electricity for one hundred and fifty 380 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: three local power companies. We serve about ten million people 381 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: across seven states in the Southeast, and we also serve 382 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 4: about sixty large industrial customers. I think some of the 383 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: more important things to know is that we don't get 384 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: taxpayer funding. Rather, our revenues come from the sale of electricity. 385 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: But we do a lot more than just generating sell electricity. 386 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 4: We also ride flood control, navigation, and land management for 387 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: the Tennessee River System, and we assist local power companies 388 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 4: and regional governments with economic development efforts. So we like 389 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: to say that we like to touch folks, touch things 390 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: that make the Tennessee Valley a wonderful place to live, 391 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: work and play. 392 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: Very good you said that. Well, you also said something 393 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: about generating electricity, and I hear a lot of things 394 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: and read a lot of things about the future of 395 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: generating electricity, and it's almost kind of scary. The need 396 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: for electricity is increasing, is it not. 397 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, We're seeing a ton of growth in our region. 398 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: It's growing really faster around here than it is in 399 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: some other parts of the United States. But between all 400 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: the influx of folks moving to this beautiful area, as 401 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: well as you know, electrification of equipment and manufacturing, and 402 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: then of course the data needs, there's a lot of 403 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: growth in the area. 404 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure is. So as a homeowner, I know the 405 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: goal is to conserve. As a homeowner, to conserve electricity, 406 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: can serve our energy needs, to minimize building more plants, 407 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: I guess, or more ways to produce electricity, and to 408 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: keep our bills down, which everybody's focusing on. So let's 409 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, what a homeowner can do. Where 410 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: is it start? I guess one of the bigger use 411 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: of the uses of energy in our homes furnaces, water heaters, 412 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: doing the wash, that type of thing. 413 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 4: That's right, those large appliances. But really the largest utilizer 414 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 4: of energy in your home is your your HVAC system. 415 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: It's nearly and sometimes more than half of your home's 416 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: energy used. So that is definitely the area you want 417 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: to point yourself into. If you're you're you know, one 418 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: of the things you can do to get a handle 419 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: on your bills is to make sure that your HVAC 420 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 4: is running at its full potential. One of the things 421 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 4: we really love to suggest people do is go ahead 422 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: and get their h FAC tuned up twice a year. 423 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 4: You want to do that, you know in this season 424 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: right now fall, right before the winter really hits, and 425 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: then again in the spring before the summer heat hits. 426 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: That it's you know, it's just like your yearly checkup, right, 427 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: it's it's going to prevent bigger issues from popping up 428 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 4: down the road. Your your tuneup's going to test your system. 429 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 4: They'll inspect your condenser and your evaporator coils as well 430 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: as the compressor and the refrigerant charge. And they'll also 431 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: make sure you're replacing your dirty air filters and that's 432 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: something we recommend folks do, you know, monthly every other 433 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: month maybe to prevent build up that can reduce the 434 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: system's efficiency. And if you're in the if you're served 435 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: by a local power company in the Tennessee Valley Authority territory, 436 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: you can get a fifty dollars rebate from us for 437 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: getting that tune up done by a member of our 438 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: Quality Contractor network. So we really try to help folks 439 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 4: offset the costs of the tune up and encourage people 440 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: to do that. 441 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you, Ashley, you bring up a great, 442 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: great point. I do it, and I do it twice 443 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: a year also. And you're talking about rebate. But I 444 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: tell people a lot of cases, if you have a 445 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: good heating and cooling company that you can you know 446 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: I have used in the past, and they're you know, 447 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: good people, they're reliable with stuff. If you have them 448 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: tune it up, they will usually give if you have 449 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: a problem, and you you know eventually will probably have 450 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: a problem, you'll go to the front of the line. 451 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: And of course when heating and cooling breaks down, it's 452 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: usually when it's really hot or really cold, and you 453 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: go to the front of the line. Because you're a 454 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: member of you're a customer, you're a good customer. You'll 455 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: also get discounts on parts. And I don't know if 456 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: you have the data on this, and I'll just throw 457 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: it out, you know. I think if you have that 458 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: tuned up, you increase the life of that HVA system 459 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: probably significantly, maybe twenty twenty five thirty additional life. 460 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what we hear from the contractors that 461 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: we work with in our network that you know, you're 462 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: your tune up is going to help prevent issues. They're 463 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: going to be a to keep that system running more 464 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: efficiently longer. And of course, you know, if you do 465 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 4: need it to be replaced, it's not a cheap system. 466 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: It's expense right, you know, and. 467 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 4: We offer rebates as well to help with the system 468 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: replacement if that is where you're at, you know, if 469 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: it's on its last legs. But yeah, we definitely think 470 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: it's one of the best things you can do. And 471 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: I know it's hard to remember and to schedule, but 472 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: you know, one of the things I love to do 473 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: is I just there are some some websites you could 474 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: just set like an auto subscribe for your air filters, right, 475 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 4: you know, you figure out your size and then it 476 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: just automatically shows up on your doorstep every two months, 477 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: and that's your trigger you remember, oh it's here, I 478 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: can replace that. And that way, when your your tune 479 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: up comes around to you don't have a nasty filter 480 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: clogging things up. Make it your hfter way. 481 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good point. And in fact, earlier in the 482 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: show today, I was telling people, you know, pleated filter 483 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: the manufacturer recommends, you know, ninety days every three months. 484 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: I said, this time of year, when you have more 485 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: activity in your home than you have probably any other 486 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: time of the year, change that thing at least every 487 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: sixty days because you're paying to heat that air and 488 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: satisfy that thermostat. And if that filter is having difficulty 489 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: passing that air through, it takes longer to satisfy that thermostat. 490 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: That's exactly right. And you know, I just I'm remindfulk too. 491 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: If you have pets, you definitely need to be doing 492 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: for thirty days. Oh you know, the hair. 493 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: Builds up in there. And you know if. 494 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 4: Anybody who's waited a little too long and taken it 495 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: out and thought, oh my gosh, I can't believe they've 496 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: been sitting in this bed so oh yeah, yeah, for sure. 497 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Is there a way do what yourselfer can do in 498 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: energy assessment in their home. 499 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 500 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: We have this amazing dy do it yourself Home Energy Assessment. 501 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: I really love this tool for folks. If you're not 502 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: really sure where to start, you know, maybe you do 503 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: get your h FAC tuned up regularly, you change your filters, 504 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: but you know your bills are maybe higher than you 505 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: want them to be, or your house just isn't as 506 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: cozy as you want it to be. This is a 507 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: great tool. It takes just maybe five six minutes to take. 508 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: You are going to answer some questions about your home. 509 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: I recommend you take it on your phone so you 510 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: can kind of walk around the house and look at 511 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: the different systems because it's going to ask you some 512 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: questions you may not know the answer to off the 513 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 4: top of your head. And at the end, you're going 514 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: to get a tailored list of recommendations, so tailored to 515 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: your home and the input you gave to that assessment 516 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: to help you save. And right now, if you take 517 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: that assessment, you're going to get a free energy saving 518 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: kit shipped to you in the mail. You're going to 519 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: have great energy saving gadgets in there, things like LED 520 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: light bulbs and filter whistles, and then you're also going 521 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: to have a ten dollars Home Improvement Store gift card 522 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: in there just to help you get started on your 523 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: energy saving journey. So it's free to take and you 524 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: get that kit for freeing the mail. So it's a 525 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: really great deal. 526 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Excellent. What kind of what's the website they go. 527 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: To, Yeah, it's energyright dot com and you can also 528 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: find all the information about the rebates I mentioned earlier 529 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: there too, Energy right dot com. 530 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: Energy right dot com, because somebody's gonna ask me, like 531 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. 532 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh everybody writ it down. 533 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So is the main reason. Obviously, you folks 534 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: sell the energy, and you know some people right now 535 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: are thinking like, well, why is the peerson selling the 536 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: energy teaching people how to save energy? Kind of explain that, 537 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: because I think that's really interesting. 538 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 539 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we get this question a lot. But 540 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: you know, we kind of started our conversation about all 541 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: the growth in the area, and it can be it's 542 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: related to that. You know, when we can lower demand 543 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: for energy, especially at peak time. So you think of 544 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: the cold winter mornings, everybody's getting up, maybe somebody's taking 545 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: a hot shower, somebody's using a load jar, somebody's cooking 546 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 4: on the stove, baby, somebody's watching TV that and your 547 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: h fact of course, is just working really hard to 548 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: keep your house warm at that time. 549 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 3: That's what we call a. 550 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 4: Peak energy time. And so when we can lower energy 551 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: use at those peak needs, that means that TVA saves 552 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: on operational costs and it reduces our need to invest 553 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: in infrastructure to only serve peak needs. Right, that's the 554 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: very expensive infrastructure that you only get to turn on 555 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: and use a few times a year. So when we 556 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: don't have to do that, that helps us maintain low 557 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: rates and a more reliable and resilient grid. And you know, 558 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 4: right now, with all this growth, it kind of means 559 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: that there's more energy available to go around so that 560 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: we can support all this growth. Because we do want 561 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: to support this growth. We want to enable you know, 562 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: great jobs to come into our area and companies to 563 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: set up shop here, so we can just keep the 564 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: economy humming. So that's our goal, and that's why we 565 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 4: invest in programs like this. 566 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Wow, good goals and a good benefit to the consumer too. 567 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we start talking about the bigger appliances 568 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: and we got into the furnace and everything. One of 569 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: the refrigerators, I know they're big energy users, but I 570 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: think what everyone needs to know is today's refrigerators, ovens 571 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: and things, they're so so much more efficient than they 572 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: were ten or fifteen years ago. And kind of not rethink. 573 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people have an older 574 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: refrigera they use as a backup, which I guess is fine, 575 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: but that's probably an energy hog in a lot of homes. 576 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, that's actually one of the things that 577 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: we try to flag when we do home energy evaluations. 578 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: You know, you're exactly right, like, if your fridge is 579 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: over ten to fifteen years old, it's going to drive 580 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: up higher energy bills, and you know, so you have 581 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: to decide is it worth it to keep it? 582 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: You know. 583 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: You know the dad with the beer fridge in the 584 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: garage is kind of a class. Beer's getting expensive, right, 585 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: that's right, So you might need to downgrade your beer 586 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: purchase if you're going to keep it in the. 587 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: Old get a little smaller fridge, get a newer one, 588 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: and get a smaller one. I guess is the answer 589 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: for that, Well, yeah, I'll tell you it. You know, 590 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: we got through the whole light bulb thing. I know, 591 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: we worked our way through that for about twenty years. 592 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: I know people are still converting in the LEDs, but 593 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's been a pretty big savor of energy 594 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: for TVA. 595 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, and we're still you know, that's that's 596 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 4: why we include those in those kids and we still 597 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 4: see so that haven't done that. You know, a lot 598 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: of semple kind of got burned by the first round 599 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: of h CFL and LED lights that quality, Yeah, and 600 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 4: that's all they remember. 601 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: So we try to when we go. 602 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: Into folks homes and remind them that, hey, the new 603 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 4: ones are great. You can get them in a nice, 604 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: warm quality and switching to LED lighting it's gonna save 605 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: you about seventy five percent compared to a traditional incandescent Bold. Yeah, 606 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 4: so I mean that we're talking, you know, two hundred, 607 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five dollars a year depending on 608 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 4: how much you use your lights. So that's worth it, 609 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 4: and I definitely recommend people look into that. 610 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Very good. Hey, Ashley, thank you so much for giving 611 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: up some of your time on this Thanksgiving weekend. I 612 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. 613 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you so much for having me, and 614 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 4: I hope everybody saves warm and cozy as the weather 615 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: gets colder. 616 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Very good, Thank you much, Thank you very much. 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We go for about nine minutes before 662 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: the top of the hour and uh, let's get back 663 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: to the phone calls. You can join us. Love to 664 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: hear from you and Mike. Welcome. 665 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: Oh yes, how you doing good? 666 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: Good? 667 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 7: I just had a one quick question for you. I 668 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 7: think you could get a new roof put on and uh, 669 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 7: I wanted to run a dolphins from the from the baths. 670 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 7: Instead they got the builder had them dumped in this 671 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 7: off it and when I talked to the roof he 672 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 7: wouldn't recommend it because he said, you're just adding another 673 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 7: penetration in your roof or potential you know, a failure. 674 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 7: I guess you could say, you know, a leak or 675 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 7: something could happen. Just want to get your take on that. 676 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: Well, whenever you penetrate anything, I mean that that would 677 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: be a true statement. That's probably the best place to 678 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: vent it. But that's true. You put a skylight in it, 679 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: you got another penetration. You put a plumbing pipe up 680 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: e vent pipe, that's another penetration, A chimneys of penetration. 681 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: And when you have problems with roofs, where those problems 682 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: usually where the penetrations are, so I'm not going to 683 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: argue that you know, you know, you know you shouldn't 684 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: do it. That's probably the best place for it. However, 685 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: if you you know, you get an exhaust fan and 686 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: you read it, the first thing they'll tell you is 687 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: u through the through the you know, through the soft 688 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: or through the roof, and then it'll always talk about 689 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: the closest point. The closest point with the least amount 690 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: of turns is where they recommend it. So if going 691 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: up and into the roof is the best place, I'd 692 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: probably put it there. If going out to the sofa, 693 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: you just want to make sure it's when it's by 694 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: the soft I'm always worried that one. It's exhausting that 695 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: the soffit's allowing that air to come back into the attic. 696 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: So placement in the soffit I think is critical to. 697 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 7: Okay, but yeah, I appreciate time. 698 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna dispute what he tells you. Any 699 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: penetration through a roof, that's you know, that becomes one 700 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: of the weakest links. 701 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just thought laying it up there in the soffit, 702 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 7: you know, maybe actually I need to get up there 703 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 7: and logan maybe you know, causing some mold or something. 704 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just remember it's hot, wet air, 705 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, so it certainly, you know, can can be 706 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: an issue. I'd prefer, you know, actually a vent extender 707 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: a little bit away from the sofat, not just laying 708 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: in the soffit. 709 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 7: Yes, all right, sir, I appreciate the time. 710 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Thank you. All right, we'll go to Benny. 711 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Benny welcome. 712 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 8: Good morning, Gary. How are you today? 713 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing fine? How about you? 714 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 8: Well, I'm great. I can't complain. Talk about Ruth So 715 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 8: my neighborhood a roof it was so architect Shingles guaranteed 716 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 8: thirty five years. After twenty some years, he was leaking 717 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 8: so bad, damaged some of the dick and I had 718 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 8: a roofer come in to tow it all out and 719 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 8: replace Ruth in the damage part of the dick. And 720 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 8: now he came up, he's, I don't use any name. 721 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 8: Two or three roofs, he said, I won't use many 722 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 8: more because see, don't listen to guarantee is no good. 723 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 8: He said, I've come up with an Owen's corning roofing 724 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 8: and it's guaranteed as long as you own the house 725 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 8: and material and labor. I've never heard of any roofs like. 726 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 5: That, have you. 727 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that whole roofing category has changed a lot 728 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: because the shingles have changed a lot. There's not as 729 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: much asphalt in the shingles. They're thinner than they used 730 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: to be. And that's why roofs. You know, when you 731 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: have a thirty year guaranteed roof, quite honestly, you know 732 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: if you'll never get thirty years out of it. You 733 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: might get twenty four, you might get twenty, you might 734 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: get twenty five. But then the whole thing came where 735 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: insurance companies aren't necessarily guaranteeing that roof that they'll pay 736 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: full value during storm damage. They pro rate them based 737 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: on the life of the roof. So Owen's corning, and 738 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: there's a couple of them now that are doing lifetime 739 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: warranties I and I gotta tell you, the lifetime warranty 740 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: is great, but you've got to have a roofer that 741 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: is kind of certified. In those shingles, they got to 742 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: be installed exactly. That whole roofing exactly, it's more of 743 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: a system than it is just a shingle. So and 744 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's bad. I'm just saying that warranty 745 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: has got a lot of must dos. You know, if 746 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: you don't have proper ventilation in the roofing that that 747 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: warranty is void. If you're not gonna have you know, 748 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: if you put the shingles over another roof, that warranty 749 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: is bad bad. If it's not installed with the right 750 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: amount of nails, that warranty is void. So yeah, the 751 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Owen's Corning benny is a great, great roof. It is 752 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: a great shingle. It's a wonderful warranty. They've just started 753 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: doing that. I've had Owens Corning roofing on my house 754 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: two times and uh, it's a it's a great product. 755 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: So I think you'll have good luck. Just make sure 756 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: you have a very good roofer and certified with the 757 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: Owens Corning shingle and you'll have a very good lifetime warranty. 758 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,479 Speaker 1: Thank you much for the call. All right, if you'd 759 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: like to join us, do so. It's eight hundred eight 760 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five. We'll take those calls 761 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: about your home. 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